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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) read me----
Date: 01 Nov 1999 08:24:37 -0500 (EST)

hello!
im dionne, 21, from new orleans, but living in manchester.  im new to the list.
ok--i have questions and statements.
when was moby on letterman?  what did he perform?  is he getting big in the states?
ok.  i went to his show last sunday at the university and it wqas incredible.  ive never seen so much energy from one person before, and it was great.  are those bongos on stage?  he played them so fast!  the lights were amazing, and added to the intensity of the atmosphere.
i loved the show so much we decided to see it again in london.  it was sold out, but we bought tickets from a  guy outside.  this venue seemed smaller, but it had a balcony all around the stage.  it was just as passionate and energetic as the night before.  i am now a firm believer that moby is a sexy sexy man.
i was going to fly home to new orleans last thursday for a week b/c its reading week here at the univeristy, so i have no lectures.  i could have seen him on halloween!  a friend of mine went, so i have to ask him how it went.  im sure the lights werent very good b/c its an outdoor stadium, but i have no doubt he played brilliantly.
does anyone know who daniel miller is?  hes the head of mute records, and i think i saw him at the show in manchester.  i wish i would have gone up to him and found out, but i was too mellowed out to move.
anyway, hello to you all, have a nice day, and if anyone has any questions about the 2 british shows, feel free to ask.
bye!!
dionne
ps--i didnt know echo & the bunnymen were touring the states!  i have a ticket to see them in november at the university, and im quite excited.  the music is great here, and i never want to go home!!





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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) EIW 2CD, Silver, Why Does.. 2cds
Date: 01 Nov 1999 07:11:43 PST


>From: [e-mail]
>I noticed on E-bay there's mad bidding on a 2cd version of >Everything is
>Wrong.

There's a 2CD mixdisc set that common enough, and then there's a 2CD release
of the album that has a bonus ambient disc, Underwater. It's almost
impossible to find nowadays.

>>[e-mail]-
>>"Princess" is cheesy track, one of worst track i've ever heard from
>> >>moby.
>>"Flying foxes" is great track, and i recommend to get that single >>just
>>for that track.. Video is also great:)

Both of the b-sides remind me of other artists. In the case of Princess,
it's Enigma. Somebody else already mentioned that. I think it's soft and
beatiful. It doesn't have punch, but it's the textures of the sounds that
really make the song for me. This song is like wrapping myself up in my
velvet blanket by the fireplace on a bitter cold winter day. Flying Foxes
reminds me of Orbital, for obvious reasons, I think. Of the remixes, my
favorite is the ATB. Yummy. I haven't had a chance to watch the video quite
yet. I give the singles two thumbs up, as there's not a bad moment on
either. And the good moments shine.

Almost a silver Moby:
http://www.thebluedot.com/greenberg/2/moby_twist.html

There's also a couple of Hymn silverpics in the Moby.org gallery.

-S

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From: "Jamie Baade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby in madison
Date: 01 Nov 1999 09:22:49 -0600

jen...

I was there!!!!!!
Moby was great!!!!!  That was the 2nd time in 2 months I have seen him Live
and each time was simply awesome
I wish I could see him every month live....
I loved the covers he played and the  way he interacted with the crowd, he
did not do either the last time I saw him in Milwaukee
I was a little disappointed with the crowd in Madison though, they did not
really seem to be moving or nearly as excited as I was?! they also did not
seem to know very many of his songs...other than bodyrock which was also a
little disappointing too, since I love every one of  his songs from go up
through WDMHFSB!
anyway...MOBY is the greatest plain and simple
Jamie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 11:46 PM


> has anyone out there just recently seen moby in madison at the barrymore?
i
> just wanted to know so i could share some of my views with those of whom
> have seen it.  i think that it was one of the most moving experiences of
my
> life and i'd like to see how you feel about it too!!! thanks jen
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 10:38:47 EST

this is the first time ive read anything bad about our dear moby.  he gets
trashed by len's planet... they were totally overreacting about the
situation.  im so pissed!  catch the nasty interview at  <A
HREF="http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium/featurestext/Len.htm">Len: Planet
Pea, Custom Bitches, and the Anti-Stardom Vibe - An Interview by Damien M.
Jones</A>

by the way, is anyone from nyc going to the vanderbilt show in long island on
the 24th?  animal lib, vegan power.





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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Len vs. Moby
Date: 01 Nov 1999 07:59:29 PST



http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium/featurestext/Len.htm

Check that out, it's an interview with 'Planet Pea' (actually Phil) of Len,
the group that has that one-hit wonder "Steal My Sunshine." It seems they
have an unfriendly rivalry with Moby. What do you think? I suspect there's
more to it than Moby just being a prick for no reason. It doesn't seem like
him at all, though nobody can be an angel all the time. Hopefully there's
more to it. This reminds me slightly of Tal Bachman (another one-hitter
cashed out in '99) criticizing Bono's lyric-writing, thoo this be a personal
issue.

If you haven't checked out the photo galleries there, you should! The Moby
gallery is tops! There's links on the bar at the left, Built To Spill,
Mogwai, and the Flaming Lips all have galleries, among others.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 11:21:21 EST

how could anyone speak terribly of Moby is beyond me.  I'll be at the show in
LI i have to see the man again!


Marisa



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) EIW 2CD, Silver, Why Does.. 2cds
Date: 01 Nov 1999 11:38:26 EST

In a message dated 11/01/1999 7:12:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< There's a 2CD mixdisc set that common enough, and then there's a 2CD
release
 of the album that has a bonus ambient disc, Underwater. It's almost
 impossible to find nowadays.
  >>
 I found it!  Or at least I think I have...  At German Music Express it
showed an item with the same catalog numbers that was in the moby.org
discography, so I hope it is.  I'll see when it gets here..  Damn
international ordering.  I so can't wait for everything to go digital.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 11:42:57 EST

In a message dated 11/01/1999 7:39:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< his is the first time ive read anything bad about our dear moby.  he gets
 trashed by len's planet... they were totally overreacting about the
 situation.  im so pissed!  catch the nasty interview at  <A
HREF="http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium/featurestext/Len.htm">Len: Planet
 Pea, Custom Bitches, and the Anti-Stardom Vibe - An Interview by Damien M.
 Jones</A>
  >>

What the fuck is up with Len.  Beyond having crappy music, they get all
pissed because Moby didn't want a cigarrette?  Jeezus...  Just because HE
hasn't sold out to be perky happy music, does mean they have to dis him.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 12:26:20 EST

Well, I'm not going to diss Len ONLY because of the fact that they are a
band, and trying to make it. But, because of a ciggerette? Moby acting "I'm
too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would never expect that of
him.... Nor hearing of it!

                                           ~Felicia



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 12:36:26 EST

What bugged me most about the article was the author letting his own bias against Moby show.  The Len guy is certainly entitled to his own opinion, but the reporter should know better.  This isn't the worst that I've seen Moby trashed though.  On the moby.org site there's an archive of an infamous 1993-ish thread on alt.rave (or something to that effect) that is absolutely brutal.  Moby himself participates in the fray.

Robyn



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 14:03:02 EST

In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Moby acting "I'm
 too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would never expect that of
 him.... Nor hearing of it! >>

I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It just sometimes how people
misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
knows what he's about and has a moral code of ethics.  i'm assuming that's he
a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a non-smoker I kinda take offense when
people smoke around  me without even the slightest consideration.  I mean its
my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in throat thing is just to
scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them for me.  It's rude.  So I
can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood, and some dick head 1 hit
wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd be a little pissed too.
But that's enough.



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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) EIW 2CD
Date: 01 Nov 1999 20:43:36 +0100

> I found it!  Or at least I think I have...  At German Music Express it
>showed an item with the same catalog numbers that was in the moby.org
>discography, so I hope it is.  I'll see when it gets here..  Damn
>international ordering.  I so can't wait for everything to go digital.


I'm sorry to tell all of you that this is a false listing....
I also tried to order it here months ago and after being in the
'On Order' status for a month I (obviously) got the message that:
"This title is currently out of print/stock, but we keep it listed in case
it gets re-issued again"
Which of course is a lame excuse for not updating your catalog...

However, I have been able to locate one since and I bought it for only
$ 19.00 which is the regular price for a CD where I live.

Oh, and Steve, you mixed up the titles of the 2 b-sides of WDMHFSB :)

Bart (<>,,<>)
http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/





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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 15:24:51 -0800

He smokes...
he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman at the Roxy show behind
the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter :P
of course I make these observations cause I am bored..
but yeah they happen
anyways later
Chris


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 11:03 AM


In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Moby acting "I'm
 too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would never expect that of
 him.... Nor hearing of it! >>

I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It just sometimes how people
misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
knows what he's about and has a moral code of ethics.  i'm assuming that's
he
a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a non-smoker I kinda take offense
when
people smoke around  me without even the slightest consideration.  I mean
its
my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in throat thing is just to
scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them for me.  It's rude.  So
I
can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood, and some dick head 1 hit
wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd be a little pissed too.
But that's enough.




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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 13:08:19 -0800 (PST)

I agree that that reportor was being bias towards Moby
when he said that..and who the hell cares about Len
anyway they suck..and they will never make it..

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << Moby acting "I'm
>  too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would
> never expect that of
>  him.... Nor hearing of it! >>
>
> I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It just
> sometimes how people
> misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda
> JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
> knows what he's about and has a moral code of
> ethics.  i'm assuming that's he
> a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a non-smoker
> I kinda take offense when
> people smoke around  me without even the slightest
> consideration.  I mean its
> my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in
> throat thing is just to
> scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them
> for me.  It's rude.  So I
> can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood,
> and some dick head 1 hit
> wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd
> be a little pissed too.
> But that's enough.
>
>


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 13:12:05 -0800 (PST)

i find it hard to believe after all the essays he's
wrote about the environment that he smokes...but if
you say so..and what's wrong with nail biters..i
happen to bite my nails..

--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> He smokes...
> he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman
> at the Roxy show behind
> the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter
> :P
> of course I make these observations cause I am
> bored..
> but yeah they happen
> anyways later
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf
> Of
> [e-mail]
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 11:03 AM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
>
>
> In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << Moby acting "I'm
>  too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would
> never expect that of
>  him.... Nor hearing of it! >>
>
> I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It just
> sometimes how people
> misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda
> JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
> knows what he's about and has a moral code of
> ethics.  i'm assuming that's
> he
> a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a non-smoker
> I kinda take offense
> when
> people smoke around  me without even the slightest
> consideration.  I mean
> its
> my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in
> throat thing is just to
> scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them
> for me.  It's rude.  So
> I
> can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood,
> and some dick head 1 hit
> wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd
> be a little pissed too.
> But that's enough.
>
>
>


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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 16:13:58 -0800

What does cigarette smoke have to do with the environment.
I guess he can't drive a car now also, because it emits carbon monoxide.
give the guy a break heh
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of megan check
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 1:12 PM


i find it hard to believe after all the essays he's
wrote about the environment that he smokes...but if
you say so..and what's wrong with nail biters..i
happen to bite my nails..

--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> He smokes...
> he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman
> at the Roxy show behind
> the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter
> :P
> of course I make these observations cause I am
> bored..
> but yeah they happen
> anyways later
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf
> Of
> [e-mail]
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 11:03 AM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
>
>
> In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << Moby acting "I'm
>  too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would
> never expect that of
>  him.... Nor hearing of it! >>
>
> I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It just
> sometimes how people
> misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda
> JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
> knows what he's about and has a moral code of
> ethics.  i'm assuming that's
> he
> a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a non-smoker
> I kinda take offense
> when
> people smoke around  me without even the slightest
> consideration.  I mean
> its
> my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in
> throat thing is just to
> scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them
> for me.  It's rude.  So
> I
> can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood,
> and some dick head 1 hit
> wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd
> be a little pissed too.
> But that's enough.
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) EIW 2CD
Date: 01 Nov 1999 16:36:30 EST

In a message dated 11/01/1999 11:43:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I'm sorry to tell all of you that this is a false listing....
 I also tried to order it here months ago and after being in the
 'On Order' status for a month I (obviously) got the message that:
 "This title is currently out of print/stock, but we keep it listed in case
 it gets re-issued again"
 Which of course is a lame excuse for not updating your catalog...  >>

Damn it to hell.  I tried to order Everything is Wrong from CDNow and got the
backorder spiel.. but the cool thing is that they always find it, even though
it usually takes awhile..  Crap.  More searching then.



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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 13:44:35 -0800 (PST)

i don't care if he does drive a car..i care for the
environment too..but i drive..not that i really like
too..all i'm saying is that smoking is not healthy for
him or the people around him(that being the
environment)..and i don't mind people who smoke there
are alot of people that i know that smoke and they are
really nice..just don't do it around me is all..

--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> What does cigarette smoke have to do with the
> environment.
> I guess he can't drive a car now also, because it
> emits carbon monoxide.
> give the guy a break heh
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf
> Of megan check
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 1:12 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
>
>
> i find it hard to believe after all the essays he's
> wrote about the environment that he smokes...but if
> you say so..and what's wrong with nail biters..i
> happen to bite my nails..
>
> --- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > He smokes...
> > he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a
> woman
> > at the Roxy show behind
> > the stage before he went on..he is also a nail
> biter
> > :P
> > of course I make these observations cause I am
> > bored..
> > but yeah they happen
> > anyways later
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> > [mailto:[e-mail]]On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > [e-mail]
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 11:03 AM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific
> > Standard Time,
> > [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > << Moby acting "I'm
> >  too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I
> would
> > never expect that of
> >  him.... Nor hearing of it! >>
> >
> > I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It
> just
> > sometimes how people
> > misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda
> > JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
> > knows what he's about and has a moral code of
> > ethics.  i'm assuming that's
> > he
> > a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a
> non-smoker
> > I kinda take offense
> > when
> > people smoke around  me without even the slightest
> > consideration.  I mean
> > its
> > my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in
> > throat thing is just to
> > scary) and I don't need someone else polluting
> them
> > for me.  It's rude.  So
> > I
> > can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood,
> > and some dick head 1 hit
> > wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette,
> I'd
> > be a little pissed too.
> > But that's enough.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 16:40:35 EST

In a message dated 11/01/1999 12:24:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< He smokes...
 he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman at the Roxy show behind
 the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter :P
 of course I make these observations cause I am bored..
 but yeah they happen >>

Well those are two major flaws.  Nail biters?  Guess his hands aren't as sexy
anymore huh?  And smoking.  What gets me is the vegan thing, because most
vegans, beyond being animal friendly are also super health conscious.  Oh
sadness, he's ruining those beautiful lungs.  Such a shame.  Next we're going
to hear that he has asthma and so forth.  The thought of Moby smoking, then
singing through a hole in his throat when he hits 50 is very distrubing.  Uck



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From: "R23 Irionik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Art Prints For Sale
Date: 01 Nov 1999 13:42:32 PST

hello everyone!

i am pleased to announce that i am selling prints of my artwork to ANYONE
interested...for $10 a piece!  there are four different pieces to choose
from, and i can scan each and send them to whoever replies to view
beforehand (of course, why buy art before you see it, eh?).

because this was sent to many people, please respond to me privately at
[e-mail] so we can trade addresses and scans.

thanks for listening, and take care of one another;
-alex

"Forget all those health clinics and gyms.  Sex is the best cure for
everything, especially stress.  If I have a good night of sex, all my
problems are gone by ten o'clock in the morning!"  -Grace Jones

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From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) smoking
Date: 01 Nov 1999 13:51:42 PST

I don't think Moby is a smoker. I happen to be a cigarette smoker, I know
it's bad but it's very hard to quit. I would still respect Moby.


>From: megan check <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
>Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:12:05 -0800 (PST)
>
>i find it hard to believe after all the essays he's
>wrote about the environment that he smokes...but if
>you say so..and what's wrong with nail biters..i
>happen to bite my nails..
>
>--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > He smokes...
> > he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman
> > at the Roxy show behind
> > the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter
> > :P
> > of course I make these observations cause I am
> > bored..
> > but yeah they happen
> > anyways later
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> > [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf
> > Of
> > [e-mail]
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 11:03 AM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/01/1999 9:27:07 AM Pacific
> > Standard Time,
> > [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > << Moby acting "I'm
> >  too good for you"? It has to go deeper..... I would
> > never expect that of
> >  him.... Nor hearing of it! >>
> >
> > I don't think it was Moby acting like that.  It just
> > sometimes how people
> > misread each other.  I think Len might be kinda
> > JEALOUS because Mr. Moby
> > knows what he's about and has a moral code of
> > ethics.  i'm assuming that's
> > he
> > a non-smoker.  am I wrong?  Because as a non-smoker
> > I kinda take offense
> > when
> > people smoke around  me without even the slightest
> > consideration.  I mean
> > its
> > my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in
> > throat thing is just to
> > scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them
> > for me.  It's rude.  So
> > I
> > can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood,
> > and some dick head 1 hit
> > wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd
> > be a little pissed too.
> > But that's enough.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 16:58:23 -0800

Ok you got to be kidding me...
THE GUY IS HUMAN
he is not a GOD..
let him live and do what the hell he wants....you make this whole vegan
animal liberation thing a total cult thing that is almost as bad as the
demands of the christian coalition.
If you knew anything about Moby...he doesn't pin himself as anything or try
to fit into any stereotype..he makes his own rules...it's not like he is a
chronic smoker..I smoke a cig occasionly..big deal...nail biter...heh, that
was being sarcastic..just to point out how all your people are freaks about
what he can and can not do.
I mean sorry, but I find it kinda fucked up to have people say
animal liberation,vegan power at the end of each /msg
like a hail moby weird nazi thing..heh I EAT MEAT and go to ZOOS...i guess
I'm not part of the elite moby group anymore...I respect his beliefs and
opinions and think he is a musical genius and composer..I don't look to him
though for a set of rules.., and I don't make him live by my rules
either...so give him a break, otherwise you are going to just totally
frustrate him.

Chris


>Well those are two major flaws.  Nail biters?  Guess his hands aren't as
sexy
>anymore huh?  And smoking.  What gets me is the vegan thing, because most
>vegans, beyond being animal friendly are also super health conscious.  Oh
>sadness, he's ruining those beautiful lungs.  Such a shame.  Next we're
going
>to hear that he has asthma and so forth.  The thought of Moby smoking, then
>singing through a hole in his throat when he hits 50 is very distrubing.
Uck




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From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) enviroment+smokingV3 #11
Date: 02 Nov 1999 00:31:36 +0200 (EET)


tobaccoleaves have to be dried over smoke of wood, for to get
cigarrets have their flavour and so -no surprises...- tobaccoindustry
is one of the biggest causes of our planet getting rid of rainforests.
+ whitening the paper etc etc.
h
  * The first canned foods appeared in 1812, the first can opener in 1885.

> What does cigarette smoke have to do with the environment.




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From: "£ámiss purity £" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby in Madison
Date: 02 Nov 1999 01:29:22 GMT

andy.....
i agree totaly with you.  i thought that it was pretty pathetic when those
kids were yelling stupid crap like that to Moby too.  i wish that the crowd
wasnt so packed because i didnt have nearly enough room to dance.  but all
in all i think that it was a great show anyway becuase of the mind blowing
light show and how great he played. this was my first time seeing Moby live
and i so want to go see him again.  im already excited!!  jen (jenna)...
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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>
>I was at the show in Madison.  I thought it was the second best Moby show I
>have ever seen (seen him 4 times, the show at First Avenue in Minneapolis
>in
>August was better only in that he played for so much longer and there was
>such a greater percentage of moby FANS there...as opposed to people who
>went
>just to see a show or 10 year old boys shouting "nice haircut" at moby...).
>You said you wanted to discuss the show?  Write away.  I am all ears!
>
>Andy

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From: "£ámiss purity £" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby in Madison
Date: 02 Nov 1999 01:29:34 GMT

andy.....
i agree totaly with you.  i thought that it was pretty pathetic when those
kids were yelling stupid crap like that to Moby too.  i wish that the crowd
wasnt so packed because i didnt have nearly enough room to dance.  but all
in all i think that it was a great show anyway becuase of the mind blowing
light show and how great he played. this was my first time seeing Moby live
and i so want to go see him again.  im already excited!!  jen (jenna)...
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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>
>I was at the show in Madison.  I thought it was the second best Moby show I
>have ever seen (seen him 4 times, the show at First Avenue in Minneapolis
>in
>August was better only in that he played for so much longer and there was
>such a greater percentage of moby FANS there...as opposed to people who
>went
>just to see a show or 10 year old boys shouting "nice haircut" at moby...).
>You said you wanted to discuss the show?  Write away.  I am all ears!
>
>Andy

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From: "£ámiss purity £" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 02 Nov 1999 01:41:29 GMT


oh my god!!  this pisses me off to no end.. who is len to say anything. len
is one of the most pathetic, uncreative bands that i have ever heard so they
shouldnt say anything!!  ahhhhh moby doesnt deserve such crap from such
dicks he is the sweetest!! i hate simple minded people! jen (jenna)

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>this is the first time ive read anything bad about our dear moby.  he gets
>trashed by len's planet... they were totally overreacting about the
>situation.  im so pissed!  catch the nasty interview at  <A
>HREF="http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium/featurestext/Len.htm">Len:
>Planet
>Pea, Custom Bitches, and the Anti-Stardom Vibe - An Interview by Damien M.
>Jones</A>
>
>by the way, is anyone from nyc going to the vanderbilt show in long island
>on
>the 24th?  animal lib, vegan power.
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 22:31:04 EST

In a message dated Mon, 1 Nov 1999  3:24:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]> writes:

> He smokes...
> he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman at the Roxy show behind
> the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter :P
> of course I make these observations cause I am bored..
> but yeah they happen
> anyways later
> Chris
>
 Are you sure?  My friend and I were wondering that too, but I we came to the conclusion later that it was a guy who looked *a lot* like him.  On later reflection, I realized that there were more than a few skinny white bald guys running around the backstage area.  Because I'm reasonably sure that Moby is a rather staunch anti-smoker.

Robyn



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 22:44:18 -0800

Yes..I was looking back there during that whole dj set minutes..
there was one skinny white bald guy..but like his face was totally dfferent
from Moby's
and I could of sworn it was Moby..because he kept coming up to talk to the
Dj during his set...
But maybe I am wrong..if you seen something different...
personally, I don't care what he does.  More power to him.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 7:31 PM


In a message dated Mon, 1 Nov 1999  3:24:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Chris
Hand" <[e-mail]> writes:

> He smokes...
> he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman at the Roxy show
behind
> the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter :P
> of course I make these observations cause I am bored..
> but yeah they happen
> anyways later
> Chris
>
 Are you sure?  My friend and I were wondering that too, but I we came to
the conclusion later that it was a guy who looked *a lot* like him.  On
later reflection, I realized that there were more than a few skinny white
bald guys running around the backstage area.  Because I'm reasonably sure
that Moby is a rather staunch anti-smoker.

Robyn




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 22:47:16 EST

Hey peeps!

I think the only way to solve this question is to have Moby answer it
himself!  Hopefully he will read all the comments that we have made and
answer.  Regardless of what his answer will be, we all still love him
right?!!!


P.S. Anyone going to the LI show on the 24th?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 01 Nov 1999 22:59:57 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 1:53:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I don't think Moby is a smoker. I happen to be a cigarette smoker, I know
 it's bad but it's very hard to quit. I would still respect Moby. >>
'
Joy!  He's not.  Direct quote from 1996 booklet to Mixmag Vol. 2 "Moby is an
extremist.  Testotal.  Drug-free.  Vegan. Agressively anti-smoking."  Hah.  I
can love this man again.  In his Play essays he even states he doesn't use
drugs (so that thwarted those evil drug rumors).  He even made vegan sound
not so bad, even though I still don't believe in it, I can understand why he
does it.  I agree with a lot of his reasons, but as humans, we're omnivores,
and like other omnivores, we eat both plant and animals.  So I feel that I
have rediscovered the man behind the music and I am happy once more.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 23:06:38 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 1:59:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< .heh I EAT MEAT and go to ZOOS...i guess
 I'm not part of the elite moby group anymore...I respect his beliefs and
 opinions and think he is a musical genius and composer..I don't look to him
 though for a set of rules.., and I don't make him live by my rules
 either...so give him a break, otherwise you are going to just totally
 frustrate him.

 Chris >>

Dude, do not start attacking.  I was being sarcastic about the nail biting
thing too.. I could care less.  Smoking is sad and incredibly bad for you and
it saddens me that he would.  But the thing is that he preaches freedom of
choice and that's very cool, but if he says he's one thing, then goes against
it, that makes him a hypocritic and there is nothing worse.  I'm not going to
stop loving his music cuz he smokes, it will just limit his voice in the
future, wouldn't it?  I eat meat too and tend to argue with
vegetarians/vegans if they're all high and mighty about it, but I can't go
into pet stores or zoos because all of the animals look so depressed and
makes me want to cry.  So depressing, sad faces.  Lay off.  We're expressing
our opinions and shouldn't get persecuted for saying what we think..  Moby's
a smart guy, I admired his stand, and his passion for life bleeds into his
music.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 23:30:11 -0800

I never persecuted any one of you or even attacked one of you...
I am saying that I feel like I can not say anything because I eat meat and
go to zoos and wear leather or whatever.
What I think is sad..that he has all this pressure put on him to live up to
this image of perfection.
I mean anyone could be called a hypocrite..people who bitch about the
rainforests still read magazines and write on paper and use toilet paper to
wipe their ass.
It's just when people get so nit picky with everything..to where say Moby
can not even function because he is totally constrained by like vegan must
not hurt the world in any way and consume plants and water for the rest of
his life rules...it's just really uneeded pressure.  People can change their
mind with things...I love Moby immensely...but I don't want to see him be
another Kurt Cobain and like have him pinned as the spokesman for the vegan
environmentalist group. He's never really pinned himself into a group or
specific genre...and that is something that should be respected.
Like shit I may be wrong, maybe it wasn't him smoking...but seeing the
reaction from people..the pressure he has on him, it's really scary.
Anyways, he can settle it if he ever glances at this.
Heh I mean...basically to be on this mailing list....the criteria is to be a
fan of moby for whatever reason.  Don't make this forum a total vegan
thing..cause personally makes me feel like an outcast, and that we are
looked down upon. I just know that Moby never said bye with a vegan
power/animal liberation yell in your face...he doesn't force anything upon
people, he just informs.  I'd like for everyone to do that.
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 8:07 PM


In a message dated 11/1/99 1:59:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< .heh I EAT MEAT and go to ZOOS...i guess
 I'm not part of the elite moby group anymore...I respect his beliefs and
 opinions and think he is a musical genius and composer..I don't look to him
 though for a set of rules.., and I don't make him live by my rules
 either...so give him a break, otherwise you are going to just totally
 frustrate him.

 Chris >>

Dude, do not start attacking.  I was being sarcastic about the nail biting
thing too.. I could care less.  Smoking is sad and incredibly bad for you
and
it saddens me that he would.  But the thing is that he preaches freedom of
choice and that's very cool, but if he says he's one thing, then goes
against
it, that makes him a hypocritic and there is nothing worse.  I'm not going
to
stop loving his music cuz he smokes, it will just limit his voice in the
future, wouldn't it?  I eat meat too and tend to argue with
vegetarians/vegans if they're all high and mighty about it, but I can't go
into pet stores or zoos because all of the animals look so depressed and
makes me want to cry.  So depressing, sad faces.  Lay off.  We're expressing
our opinions and shouldn't get persecuted for saying what we think..  Moby's
a smart guy, I admired his stand, and his passion for life bleeds into his
music.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 01 Nov 1999 23:44:52 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 8:30:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< t's just when people get so nit picky with everything..to where say Moby
 can not even function because he is totally constrained by like vegan must
 not hurt the world in any way and consume plants and water for the rest of
 his life rules...it's just really uneeded pressure.  People can change their
 mind with things...I love Moby immensely... >>

I don't give a flying fuck if he's vegan or not.  Jesus.  Go out eat a slab
of cow.  Whatever makes you tick.  I don't care and I wouldn't think less of
him if he did.  I'm not vegan, I wouldn't never become one, but I can
understand what he's saying.  And I know he believes in choice.  The question
wasn't vegan, it was smoking.  And I am incredibly anti-smoking and it makes
me sad because it brings images in my head  of Moby performing through a hole
in his throat (brainwashing comercials worked amazingly on me on the smoking
point, don't you think?)  And you did to attack me, you quoted my posting and
then went spewing off in a rage. Calm down and take in what I was saying.  It
would make me sad.  Enough said. Contained animals make me sad.  Sad puppy
faces in pet stores make me want to cry and I have to run out of the stores.
Some zoos make me sad if the animals look depressed, but that has nothing to
do with Moby so I won't digress cuz I know how "off topic" discussion piss
people off.  Just accept people for what they think and move forward.  Calm
down.  Kurt Cobain was tragic, but there was more to his death than the media
pressure to be angst poster boy.  He had issues beyond that and you can't
blame the world because he had other psychological issues like everyone else.
 Like you said, the guy's human.  There's complexity beyond the obvious.
Again I digress.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: david chamberlain <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:smoking
Date: 01 Nov 1999 23:44:05 -0500

oh and btw, a better way of finding out if moby smokes is for someone to
go up to him after the show and offer him a cigarette.  I'll be seeing
him tonight(2nd) if only i smoked i could do this but the one close
minded aspect in my mind is towards smoking.  I think i'm more tolerable
towards drug users than smoker mentality.  Maybe because i equate drug
use with stupidity and not so with smoking so i expect more of smokers.
anyone got a light?

dave



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:smoking
Date: 02 Nov 1999 00:13:44 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 9:07:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i equate drug
 use with stupidity  >>

Not true.  Some brilliant people use drugs because they need an escape.  I
don't use drugs either, but as a child of an ex-druggie, drugs are used as an
escape from reality.  And brilliant people see more truth in the world than
most and can be more depressed and feel the heaviness of the world and need
escape.  I know i'm digressing but I had to comment on that because not all
druggies are burn-out losers and I had to defend them.  Enough.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) exactly
Date: 02 Nov 1999 00:24:19 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 9:14:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  I think that Moby would definetely not sit around and type messages
commenting on whatever bad habits you may have.  We could all learn more than
one lesson from him but we have to remember that there is only one true God
and its not Moby. >>

I'm not even going to get started on the whole Christianity thing because the
whole religion drips with hypocrisy.  And on Moby not typing about bad habits
of people, have you read his fucking essays?  He comments of the bad habits
of the world, most of which are really messed, true, but don't pull this
double standard crap.  No one called Moby God.  Moby by nature breed
controversy because he encourages discussion and self expression.  And I will
say it again, I simply expressed that the thought of Moby smoking seeming
inantely wrong and saddened me.  Why are people not getting this?  Maybe I
need to stop speaking girl or something.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: david chamberlain <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed(animal/pets)
Date: 01 Nov 1999 23:40:51 -0500

those pets are not sad and depressed, they're acting.  How else is
anyone gonna buy them? no one wants to go to a pet store to buy an angry
repressed animal.  When my dog needs/wants something, she gives me the
puppy dog sad look.  Shes nto really sad she just knows how to play into
MY WEAKNESS.

people like the sad lil puppy dogs

i strongly oppose any attempts to prevent animals from being cute. =P

dave

ps, if you don't understand this post, then you should be the one in the
cage.



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 02 Nov 1999 00:05:57 -0800

all I am saying is that we all should be open minded..even when it comes to
Moby...
...
My source for the videotape from the woodstock performance I talked to at a
show last week..so he said if he remembered this week, he would mail it to
me...(which I doubt he will) have to keep reminding him..trying to get that
encoded to audio as quickly as possible and throw it up on some shell
somewhere.

I found a live show WBCN Boston Radio 8/99...it was encoded at 256..and it
is divided into two sets and with an interview...
The guy set a ratio and only will let you u/l or d/l if you have one of his
requests..if you wanna see if you have something to get this show..I got a
little of it, and it sounded fantastic..I would really want this show if
someone can get past the ratio or get an account, he wouldn't respond to my
emails...also has some Underworld gigs.. here's the addy
ftp://24.112.218.25 /mp3/Moby - WBCN Boston Radio [08-1999]/ login:mp3
password:mp3

anyways...I apologize if I seem like I am attacking or bitching..didn't mean
it that way..
LaTer
Chris
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 8:45 PM


In a message dated 11/1/99 8:30:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< t's just when people get so nit picky with everything..to where say Moby
 can not even function because he is totally constrained by like vegan must
 not hurt the world in any way and consume plants and water for the rest of
 his life rules...it's just really uneeded pressure.  People can change
their
 mind with things...I love Moby immensely... >>

I don't give a flying fuck if he's vegan or not.  Jesus.  Go out eat a slab
of cow.  Whatever makes you tick.  I don't care and I wouldn't think less of
him if he did.  I'm not vegan, I wouldn't never become one, but I can
understand what he's saying.  And I know he believes in choice.  The
question
wasn't vegan, it was smoking.  And I am incredibly anti-smoking and it makes
me sad because it brings images in my head  of Moby performing through a
hole
in his throat (brainwashing comercials worked amazingly on me on the smoking
point, don't you think?)  And you did to attack me, you quoted my posting
and
then went spewing off in a rage. Calm down and take in what I was saying.
It
would make me sad.  Enough said. Contained animals make me sad.  Sad puppy
faces in pet stores make me want to cry and I have to run out of the stores.
Some zoos make me sad if the animals look depressed, but that has nothing to
do with Moby so I won't digress cuz I know how "off topic" discussion piss
people off.  Just accept people for what they think and move forward.  Calm
down.  Kurt Cobain was tragic, but there was more to his death than the
media
pressure to be angst poster boy.  He had issues beyond that and you can't
blame the world because he had other psychological issues like everyone
else.
 Like you said, the guy's human.  There's complexity beyond the obvious.
Again I digress.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed(animal/pets)
Date: 02 Nov 1999 00:32:54 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 9:25:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< those pets are not sad and depressed, they're acting.  How else is
 anyone gonna buy them? no one wants to go to a pet store to buy an angry
 repressed animal. >>

There's difference between caged depression and pity depression.  The caged
depression is the type that makes me run crying out of pet stores.  Imagine
spending your life in a little fiber glass cell, with all these people
inadvertanily taunting you because they could be freed by you.  Just thinking
about it makes me want to cry.  Free dogs on the other hand, no pity for
them.  Say stop that, you're not getting my dinner.  Bad puppy, stop lookng
at me like that.. No damn you dog.  Fine take it all, just stop looking at me
with that face.  That's different.  =)


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) come on...
Date: 02 Nov 1999 01:38:07 EST

In a message dated 11/1/99 10:27:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<   Perhaps in this situation that may be obsessing over the fact that maybe
Moby isn't perfect. >>

This is been such a frustrating day.  No he's not perfect. And we're not
picking him apart.  We're not saying he's a terrible person if he smokes,
just that it would upset us because he is a role model type for so many
people (regardless of what you think, and he should be because he's a great
human being) Also because it would ruin his lovely voice.  It's not
judgemental at all.  And I really need to unplug my computer before I go
insane.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) chill out
Date: 02 Nov 1999 02:39:29 EST

what is up with u?!  my god, just b/c i  end my posts w/ "animal lib, vegan
power", does not in any way mean that i am forcing my beliefs on anyone!
it's not meant to sound threatening or an in-your-face kinda thing and it's
insulting that one would think it's meant to look down upon those who arent
vegan - it's just the fucking way i end my messages, plain and simple.  i
never judge the way people choose to live their lifestyles, ever.  we're all
on this mailing list b/c we luv moby's music and respect the guy.  no one's
making this forum a "total vegan thing" so chill out.
~animal lib, vegan power.

In a message dated 11/2/99 12:09:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Heh I mean...basically to be on this mailing list....the criteria is to be
a
 fan of moby for whatever reason.  Don't make this forum a total vegan
 thing..cause personally makes me feel like an outcast, and that we are
 looked down upon. I just know that Moby never said bye with a vegan
 power/animal liberation yell in your face...he doesn't force anything upon
 people, he just informs.  I'd like for everyone to do that. >>



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 02 Nov 1999 09:04:28 EST

i really want to go to this show but the problem for me is the distance...how
far is it...i mean, i don't want to get stuck in the city because of no
trains...peace...elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 02 Nov 1999 09:31:05 EST

Hey Elie!

Well all I know is that the nearest train, LIRR to get to the Vanderbilt is
in Hicksville.  I don't live in LI so I can't give you anymore specific
details.

You can check this site or give them a call for directions.


directions.http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypMap.py?Pyt=Typ&YY=758&addr=1600%20round%20swamp%20rd&city=Plainview&state=NY&country=US&slt=40.7831&s
ln=-73.4450&zip=11803&mag=9&cs=9&stx=the%20vanderbilt&stp=a&ad=1281&ycat=&l=9&
tuid=12086989&tq=8&btype=default

Hope you can make it!

Marisa



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) uh, moby and smoking--
Date: 02 Nov 1999 09:44:17 -0500 (EST)

hello again.
i know this has nothing to do with cigarettes, but it is in the same realm.  at the show in london last week, moby commented on someone smoking pot in the audience, and he said he isnt a pot smoker.  so, we know he doesnt smoke pot.
i still think hes a sexy man:)
d





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Hook me up.
Date: 02 Nov 1999 10:09:00 EST

If you know where to get moby t-shirts tell me.



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From: "R23 Irionik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) well, well, well...
Date: 02 Nov 1999 07:39:08 PST

so there i am, buying a cd from amazon.com, and expecting a techno/ebm
crossover with the band apoptygma berzerk.  so i order the cd, "7", and wait
till i get it in the mail.  i'm not "goth" or whatever the kids call it
nowadays, not even into "evil" music, just a hardcore electronic music fan.
anyway, expecting to be disappointed (and thinking i bought a goth cd) when
i open it(it's got this picture of jesus on the cover, and the first track
has a church organ and "evil" singing)...i listen to a few tracks, and it's
great.  anyway-that's not why i posted.

the reason i posted was because in the 6th or 7th song, a person rambling on
about jesus and making some sense sounds familiar.  and sure enough, on the
cd jacket "thanks to all who helped contribute and credits to these artist:
laibach, david bowie, depeche mode, nirvana and MOBY".  looks like i just
found another one of mr. hall's dabbles in experimentation, eh?

-alex

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From: "Kerry Cianos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby In Atlanta
Date: 02 Nov 1999 12:03:58 -0500

  Did anyone catch the Moby show last night at the Roxy Theater in Atlanta?!
It was my first time seeing Moby live and it was awesome!  I'm sure much
like what everyone else has said the concerts were like - very high-energy,
cool lighting, and excellent music (of course).  I happened to get a spot
right next to the stage and it was very awesome and very loud!  One of my
ears is still ringing...

  Concert highlights include an impromptu partial version of "Freebird" and
Moby going into the crowd for a while... Someone asked him for his "magic"
tambourine and he said he couldn't give it away, but he did take off his
shirt and give it to a girl in the audience who was obviously a mega-fan.  I
can't remember the entire setlist but he did played several tracks from
Play, a few from EIW, and some of his earlier classics like "Go", etc.  He
didn't play hardly any songs from Animal Rights, which was disappointing;
the only song he play was TWIRFMR...

  Anyways, it was an excellent concert and very enjoyable... if you haven't
seen him yet and get a chance, do it!

  kerry




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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) exactly
Date: 02 Nov 1999 10:59:50 -0800 (PST)

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> We could all learn more than one lesson from
> him but we have to remember that there is
> only one true God and its not Moby.

Who's exclusionary (a word?) now?  I guess we
Pagans must be misguided then...

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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) God, Moby and releasing music and stuff....
Date: 02 Nov 1999 12:06:35 -0700

> >> We could all learn more than one lesson from
> >> him but we have to remember that there is
> >> only one true God and its not Moby.
>
> >Who's exclusionary (a word?) now?  I guess we
> >Pagans must be misguided then...
>

Maybe there is "one true God" and maybe it has many personalities, many
manifestations and many faces among other things.  And maybe it has many
other names.  I guess it doesn't matter very much though because what
really matters is your personal relationship with what ever, whoever or
what face of God you comunicate w/.\

And no, MOBY is not GOD.  When he starts creating planets, skies,
sunsets etc that I can touch then I'll think about worshiping.

Hrmph, Hey, how bout then Cardinals?  :-)

When, if ever is the Moby tour ending and has anyone heard about him
getting into the studio to work on anything?  Curious.

--kimby




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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Providence
Date: 02 Nov 1999 14:19:47 EST

Hey does anybody have any info on the Moby show at Providence, RI show? Like
is it only for 18+ (I'm praying not)? I went to WBCN website and it was
posted there but there weren't any details on it, except that it was at
Lupo's in Providence. Thanks.

~Stacey

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) exactly
Date: 02 Nov 1999 16:13:25 EST

In a message dated 11/02/1999 10:49:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I guess we
 Pagans must be misguided then... >>

LOL



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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Smoking, Moby
Date: 02 Nov 1999 15:39:48 PST


>He smokes...
>he was lighting up a few cigs that he bummed a woman at the Roxy show
>behind
>the stage before he went on..he is also a nail biter :P
>of course I make these observations cause I am bored..
>but yeah they happen
>anyways later
>Chris
That's really surprising to me.  I don't get smokers, period. I mean, I
understand people who got hooked in decades past.  But now. there's so much
anti-smoking stuff you'd have to be kind of wantonly self-destructive to
start smoking.  I mean, yeah, it does look cool.  But so do guys with guns
in trenchcoats.

I don't see why Moby would be a vegan, caring so much for life and trying
not to harm other's existence, and then smoke.  People who smoke around me
really sadden me and piss me off.  That crap goes into MY lungs and that's
an intrusion on me.  And Moby complains about the toxic car fumes he
breathes in on walks.  Well, that seems like quite a contradiction there.

Oh, well, I still love Moby (PLATONICALLY :).

I hope it's not true but if it is oh well.


>its
>my lungs, I don't smoke for a reason (that hole in throat thing is just to
>scary) and I don't need someone else polluting them for me.  It's rude.  So
>I
>can see why if Moby happened to be in a bad mood, and some dick head 1 hit
>wonder bad-ass wannabe offered me a cigarrette, I'd be a little pissed too.
>But that's enough.
>
>

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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Vegan Power
Date: 02 Nov 1999 15:45:13 PST


Heehee.  That always did strike me as some sort of salute.
Whenever I see the people who do that's messages I think of legions and
legions of skinny pale people with their right hands raised and the Moby
insigna on their shoulders.  "A New World Order".  Maybe a big picture of
Moby in red---"Vegan Power"

I'm a vegetarian too but that really is hilarious.  I'm weird though.
I mean, I crack up at just about anything.

You know what I've got going through my head? Sa-see-sa-say. from Sweet
Lullaby.  Deep Forest's Made in Japan is pretty cool.  The live version of
SL is AMAZING.

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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Smoking, Moby
Date: 02 Nov 1999 19:28:53 EST

If you think about it, it wouldn't make sense if he does smoke.  He wouldn't
have been pissed about the whole Len ordeal if he smokes.  Also, wasn't
someone talking a while ago about how he used to stuff rags under his door
on the bus to stop the smoke from coming into his room while he was on tour
with Prodigy? I seriously doubt he would do that if he smoked. Oh well. Life
goes on, and Moby is still the same old Moby. :)

~Stacey


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From: "T.R.Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #13
Date: 03 Nov 1999 01:11:11 +0000


Ok, it is slightly Moby related, I don't like the new GnR single, I wish
Moby had produced it, but then Play wouldn't have been made, and my
friends wouldn't be Moby fans suddenly, oh shit.



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From: "Paul  Medeiros" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Providence/people need to relax
Date: 02 Nov 1999 21:38:50 -0500

I believe that the show will be all ages.  You might want to try lupo's web
site http://www.lupos.com .  I'm trying to get the day off of work to go to
that show.  It will be my first moby show.  Anyway what type of merchandise
do they sell at the shows like cd's ....

Also I just finished reading my mail for the past two days and some of you
people need to relax a bit.  I mean moby is an incredible musician but some
people here have him under the microscope.  People on this list is flipping
out whether or not if he smokes, or animals at a pet store.  Personally I
wouldn't buy a dog at a pet store.  So let's not be too critical on what
people may do or believe.
-paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Stacey MacGrath
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 2:20 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (mobility) Moby in Providence
>
>
> Hey does anybody have any info on the Moby show at Providence, RI
> show? Like
> is it only for 18+ (I'm praying not)? I went to WBCN website and it was
> posted there but there weren't any details on it, except that it was at
> Lupo's in Providence. Thanks.
>
> ~Stacey
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:13:46 EST

im going to the show in LI.  i live in the city but am taking a train and my
friend's driving.  i'll try and find out what mode of transportation will get
u there. by the way do u guys know how much the tix are?  thanx.  this will
be the 6th time ive seen the man in 5 months!
~animal lib, vegan power ; )



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:20:01 EST

Hi!

The tickets are priced at $18 the show is Nov 24th at the Vanderbilt at 7pm.
There is also going to be another band, Lo-Fidelity All Stars.  Has anyone
ever been to this venue?

The location
The Vanderbilt
1600 Round Swamp Rd.
Plainview, NY 11803

Hopefully I'll see many of you there!

Marisa



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:37:01 -0800

I've been to it 4 times...
usually don't have barriers set up..you walk upstairs to a small ballroom
type place, has a balcony..and the security is really lax...all the shows
are usually sponsored by WLIR..the parking is a real bitch though, so if you
drive get their early..it is right off the LIE on the right by a hotel.  I
really like the venue, cause it's a place for intimate shows.
Anyways, gotta go..
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of [e-mail]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:20 PM


Hi!

The tickets are priced at $18 the show is Nov 24th at the Vanderbilt at 7pm.
There is also going to be another band, Lo-Fidelity All Stars.  Has anyone
ever been to this venue?

The location
The Vanderbilt
1600 Round Swamp Rd.
Plainview, NY 11803

Hopefully I'll see many of you there!

Marisa




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan Power
Date: 03 Nov 1999 01:13:39 EST

In a message dated 11/2/99 6:24:54 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< you know what I've got going through my head? Sa-see-sa-say. from Sweet
 Lullaby.  Deep Forest's Made in Japan is pretty cool.  The live version of
 SL is AMAZING.
  >>

I bet. I love that song and all the rest of Deep Forest. I'm wishing I had
enough money to get the CD.  :(

                           ~Felicia



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From: Christopher Laine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #10
Date: 03 Nov 1999 02:51:24 -0800 (PST)

Hello, all.  This is actually the first time I've
mailed Mobility since sending my intro post about a
year ago...
Anyway, I have two questions:

1) I purchased the WDMHFSB single with the video, but
I can't seem to locate the video on the disk.  Whever
I put it in my computer, only the audio files seem to
register (all of which are very nice, IMHO).  I've
gone through my media player program and still can't
locate the darn thing.  Any suggestions?

2) I missed my chance at seeing Moby in the States,
and now Is ee he's got plans to do some shows in
Australia and Mew Zealand.  Anybody hear if he is
coming to Japan?  and if so, any ideas of when?

Thanks.

Chris


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From: Christopher Laine <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Underwater
Date: 03 Nov 1999 02:56:11 -0800 (PST)

I actually had Underwater in my hands about 2 years
ago and decided not to buy it.  I'm kicking myself
now....  It was used, and that was before I was really
'into' Moby.  Ah, the ignorance of youth!

Chris


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:20:45 -0800 (PST)

I think you are right. I don't believe all the things
he says in his essays but i can see where he is coming
from.

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/1/99 1:53:43 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << I don't think Moby is a smoker. I happen to be a
> cigarette smoker, I know
>  it's bad but it's very hard to quit. I would still
> respect Moby. >>
> '
> Joy!  He's not.  Direct quote from 1996 booklet to
> Mixmag Vol. 2 "Moby is an
> extremist.  Testotal.  Drug-free.  Vegan.
> Agressively anti-smoking."  Hah.  I
> can love this man again.  In his Play essays he even
> states he doesn't use
> drugs (so that thwarted those evil drug rumors).  He
> even made vegan sound
> not so bad, even though I still don't believe in it,
> I can understand why he
> does it.  I agree with a lot of his reasons, but as
> humans, we're omnivores,
> and like other omnivores, we eat both plant and
> animals.  So I feel that I
> have rediscovered the man behind the music and I am
> happy once more.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
> Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
>


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed(animal/pets)
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:25:35 -0800 (PST)

the only place i don't like going is a pound..now
those are some sad dogs..and believe me if you get a
dog from the pound they never recover from the
experience..i got a dog from the pound last year
because my dog died of a heart attack the day after
christmas..and i can't put her in the kennel and any
time someone leaves she whines until they come back..

--- david chamberlain <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> those pets are not sad and depressed, they're
> acting.  How else is
> anyone gonna buy them? no one wants to go to a pet
> store to buy an angry
> repressed animal.  When my dog needs/wants
> something, she gives me the
> puppy dog sad look.  Shes nto really sad she just
> knows how to play into
> MY WEAKNESS.
>
> people like the sad lil puppy dogs
>
> i strongly oppose any attempts to prevent animals
> from being cute. =P
>
> dave
>
> ps, if you don't understand this post, then you
> should be the one in the
> cage.
>
>


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:28:49 -0800 (PST)

When i was telling my mom about Moby she said she
thought he lived a depressing life..but i don't think
so..he's very passionate about what he believes in and
i admire him for that..so more power to him

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/1/99 8:30:44 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << t's just when people get so nit picky with
> everything..to where say Moby
>  can not even function because he is totally
> constrained by like vegan must
>  not hurt the world in any way and consume plants
> and water for the rest of
>  his life rules...it's just really uneeded pressure.
>  People can change their
>  mind with things...I love Moby immensely... >>
>
> I don't give a flying fuck if he's vegan or not.
> Jesus.  Go out eat a slab
> of cow.  Whatever makes you tick.  I don't care and
> I wouldn't think less of
> him if he did.  I'm not vegan, I wouldn't never
> become one, but I can
> understand what he's saying.  And I know he believes
> in choice.  The question
> wasn't vegan, it was smoking.  And I am incredibly
> anti-smoking and it makes
> me sad because it brings images in my head  of Moby
> performing through a hole
> in his throat (brainwashing comercials worked
> amazingly on me on the smoking
> point, don't you think?)  And you did to attack me,
> you quoted my posting and
> then went spewing off in a rage. Calm down and take
> in what I was saying.  It
> would make me sad.  Enough said. Contained animals
> make me sad.  Sad puppy
> faces in pet stores make me want to cry and I have
> to run out of the stores.
> Some zoos make me sad if the animals look depressed,
> but that has nothing to
> do with Moby so I won't digress cuz I know how "off
> topic" discussion piss
> people off.  Just accept people for what they think
> and move forward.  Calm
> down.  Kurt Cobain was tragic, but there was more to
> his death than the media
> pressure to be angst poster boy.  He had issues
> beyond that and you can't
> blame the world because he had other psychological
> issues like everyone else.
>  Like you said, the guy's human.  There's complexity
> beyond the obvious.
> Again I digress.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
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>
>


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:31:11 -0800 (PST)


haven't you ever heard the saying "drugs are a crutch
for those who can't deal with reality"...sometimes
you'll see it the other way around "reality is a
crutch for those who can't deal with drugs"


--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/1/99 9:07:59 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << i equate drug
>  use with stupidity  >>
>
> Not true.  Some brilliant people use drugs because
> they need an escape.  I
> don't use drugs either, but as a child of an
> ex-druggie, drugs are used as an
> escape from reality.  And brilliant people see more
> truth in the world than
> most and can be more depressed and feel the
> heaviness of the world and need
> escape.  I know i'm digressing but I had to comment
> on that because not all
> druggies are burn-out losers and I had to defend
> them.  Enough.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
> Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 15:23:09 +0200

Just to be accurate and a bit disappointed

> Joy!  He's not.  Direct quote from 1996 booklet to Mixmag Vol. 2 "Moby is an
> extremist.  Teetotal.

He's not teetotal anymore i guess. We've discussed this last year i guess, and
i got a bit sad about it, because i somehow can't match Moby with drinking.
And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ? Meat ?
Eggs ? or Cheese ?
everything dies.

here's the rest of the MixMag booklet stuff :

> Drug-free.  Vegan. Agressively anti-smoking."


enjoy,

Kohut.



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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:36:35 -0800 (PST)

yeah i know what you mean..i really love to go to his
shows..i'd be satisfied just seeing him once..but the
distance..that's the downfall..

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> i really want to go to this show but the problem for
> me is the distance...how
> far is it...i mean, i don't want to get stuck in the
> city because of no
> trains...peace...elie
>
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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby In Atlanta
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:40:52 -0800 (PST)

Don't they ever put Moby on tv..some of his concerts
or something..for us poor unfortunates..

--- Kerry Cianos <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   Did anyone catch the Moby show last night at the
> Roxy Theater in Atlanta?!
> It was my first time seeing Moby live and it was
> awesome!  I'm sure much
> like what everyone else has said the concerts were
> like - very high-energy,
> cool lighting, and excellent music (of course).  I
> happened to get a spot
> right next to the stage and it was very awesome and
> very loud!  One of my
> ears is still ringing...
>
>   Concert highlights include an impromptu partial
> version of "Freebird" and
> Moby going into the crowd for a while... Someone
> asked him for his "magic"
> tambourine and he said he couldn't give it away, but
> he did take off his
> shirt and give it to a girl in the audience who was
> obviously a mega-fan.  I
> can't remember the entire setlist but he did played
> several tracks from
> Play, a few from EIW, and some of his earlier
> classics like "Go", etc.  He
> didn't play hardly any songs from Animal Rights,
> which was disappointing;
> the only song he play was TWIRFMR...
>
>   Anyways, it was an excellent concert and very
> enjoyable... if you haven't
> seen him yet and get a chance, do it!
>
>   kerry
>
>
>


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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) another anti-moby turd/TMBG
Date: 03 Nov 1999 07:30:26 -0800 (PST)


wowee just in time for this whole Len controversy!

"is this the aisle for people who hate moby?"
"and have 10 items or less"
"13, 12, 11, 10:"

(from SPIN letters page)
CUTTIN' UP THE LATEST DON MCLEAN WAX LIKE IT AIN'T
NOBODY'S BUSINESS
This is concerning that Moby character. He's that
limey geek who dresses funny and does house music,
right? I was in a dance club during spring break and
the DJ played Van Morrison's classics "Brown Eyed
Girl". The whole place went nuts and everyone
continued to shake their collective groove thangs. All
we need is some moree DJ's with good taste who'll play
some classic rock. Hey, Moby, pack up your turntables
and synthesizers and head back to England.
Carl Showalter
Elmira, New York

Editor's note: Moby is from Connecticut.

HAA-HA!

my response:
Not only does he drop Van Morrison is his DJ sets
(really, ddoes he? has any1ne heard him do this?
cool!), but when i saw him at  Toads (hands down best
show EVER) his band dropped a bit of "American Woman"
before launching into "Bodyrock" and he's been known
to play country versions of "Feeling So Real" and
acoustic versions of "Go" and his new cd mixes gospel
and blues tunes with hip-hop beats, scratching and
funk guitar. What's wrong with being eclectic? And
actually, you're dissing yourself because you even say
that the crowd is still having it. That's why I love
Moby fans, they're so damn open-minded.

ok, so i saw They Might Be Giants in concert recently.
ROCK!!!! except that the opening act SUCKED and got on
a full hour and a half late (even Moby's opener was
only half hour late! and at least we had Dave The Wave
spinning tunes...) and by the time TMBG took the stage
it was almost MIDNITE......BUT they sure damn rocked
the house. of course  when "Ana Ng" came on we almost
got squished by the crowds going nuts (heh, my sister
actaully dropped some guy crowdsurfing! it was so
funny!) so we had to go to the back of the club where
we wouldnt get killed, but after that it was just
non-stop rock. well, actually they did stop twice. but
they did 2wo encores! one was to do "Particle Man" and
i love how they messed up the words too, the
encorporated "Let It Be": "person man hates particle
man, let it be... person man person man person man
person man, saying person man, person man, person man"
they did that in "Dr. Worm" too: "in my hour of
darkness, she is standing in my way, speaking words of
wisdom Dr. Worm" and in the 2nd encore they did
"Istanbul" with a teasing long guitar solo in front.
oh yeah, before "Shoehorn With Teeth" they did...THE
GLOCKENSPIEL!!!! they were like, Who's going to play
THE GLOCKENSPIEL!?!?!? and they got the drummer, and
in the song they only actually used it 3hreee times!
DING!
you just had to be there......

my god, what does this have to do with Moby?
hopefully TMBG are Moby fans, thats probly likely
right?

the show was great but it just pales in comparison to
Moby, but thats only cuz Moby is just the greatest
ever. but for what TMBG is, they rock too. altho i
wish they'd play more of their earlier stuff and use
wierder instruments like they did back then but
whattayagonnado?

oh yeah also in SPIN it has an ad for Hackers 3 and it
says "Why Can't It Stop" is previously unreleased.
uh........ and also it reviews the Bad Brains tribute
Moby's on (5 out of 10) and it says this about moby:
"I guess it's the thought that counts. Cave In's "I
Luv I Jah" recalls Modern English's "I Melt With You"
[shudder] and stretches the  ragga standard an
additional six minutes. MOBY's rendition of the 1982
_ROIR Sessions_ classic "Sailin' On" deconstructs the
ringing fuzz of Dr. Know's electric guitar amid sleepy
piano runs, airy strings, measured drum-machine punch,
and warm blues chants. This ditty puts the Brains'
songwriting prowess in perspective: Their sound wasn't
just hard, it was _complicated._"

So i guess they liked it? anybody heard this? is this
cd even out yet? its called "Never Give In: A Tribute
To The Bad brains" on century Media.

why am i even online? i'm supposed to be sick! i'm not
at school! and tomorrow i got a funeral to go to so im
not at school either and last two days was "staff
developement"/election day..... when the hell am i
ever gonna go to school again? i think i'm losing my
perspicacity! gaaaaaaa!

peace, Phizzo ;)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 12:10:22 EST

In a message dated 11/03/1999 6:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  Moby with drinking.
 And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ? Meat ?
 Eggs ? or Cheese ?
 everything dies. >>

Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot down and then doesn't
make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's different.  Meat, eggs and
cheese are not the end of the world, especially cheese..  One thing I don't
understand about vegans.. Cows r in pain if they aren't milked, or at least
extreme discomfort.  What's wrong with milk products beyond the threat of
lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the cow, it actually makes them
feel better.  But I digress and I don't want to start another vegan arguement.



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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 09:31:53 PST

Hey, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a little drink now and


...Jesus drank :)

<<  Moby with drinking.
>  And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ?
>Meat ?
>  Eggs ? or Cheese ?
>  everything dies. >>
>
>Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot down and then doesn't
>make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's different.  Meat, eggs
>and
>cheese are not the end of the world, especially cheese..  One thing I don't
>understand about vegans.. Cows r in pain if they aren't milked, or at least
>extreme discomfort.  What's wrong with milk products beyond the threat of
>lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the cow, it actually makes
>them
>feel better.  But I digress and I don't want to start another vegan
>arguement.
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) EIW promo?
Date: 03 Nov 1999 12:43:03 EST

i was just searching the net for moby stuff and i came across an 'everything
is wrong' promo and it said that it was an "official promo interview disc.pic"
does anyone know what this is?  i checked the moby.org discography and it's
not there.
thanks!

-tina
"Without understanding there cannot be true love, and without love there
cannot be true understanding." --Thich Nhat Hanh



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From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 11:10:51 -0800 (PST)

.. i'm not attempting to start another vegan argument,
but here are my thoughts.. in the wild, as an adult
human, i would no longer be drinking milk from my
mother's breasts. i have friends who were breast fed
until they were three; if you don't stop breast
feeding from the animal will keep producing milk for a
long time. if the animal stops being milked it will
stop producing milk, so we are not really helping the
cows, just prolonging their discomfort..also the
amount of cattle we are breeding for this purpose is
very destructive to the earth; cows produce huge
amounts of methene which is one of the main
contributors to the destruction of the ozone layer...
not trying to say everyone should be vegan, it just
makes sense for me...
*freyja*

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/03/1999 6:24:45 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<  Moby with drinking.
>  And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall
> down next. Drugs ? Meat ?
>  Eggs ? or Cheese ?
>  everything dies. >>
>
> Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot
> down and then doesn't
> make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's
> different.  Meat, eggs and
> cheese are not the end of the world, especially
> cheese..  One thing I don't
> understand about vegans.. Cows r in pain if they
> aren't milked, or at least
> extreme discomfort.  What's wrong with milk products
> beyond the threat of
> lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the
> cow, it actually makes them
> feel better.  But I digress and I don't want to
> start another vegan arguement.
>
>

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) EIW promo?
Date: 03 Nov 1999 11:24:53 PST


>From: [e-mail]
>i was just searching the net for moby stuff and i came across >an
>'everything is wrong' promo and it said that it was an "official >promo
>interview disc.pic" does anyone know what this is?  i checked >the moby.org
>discography and it's not there.

There are interview discs for both EIW and AR. The AR one is in the
discography with a list of the questions, but the EIW is missing. I don't
have it, but I've seen it on an auction once, and I'm fairly sure it's been
discussed on mobility once before.

-Steve
an unapologetic but courteous smoker

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) EIW promo!
Date: 03 Nov 1999 20:29:44 +0100

Tina wrote:
>i was just searching the net for moby stuff and i came across an
'everything
>is wrong' promo and it said that it was an "official promo interview
disc.pic"
>does anyone know what this is?  i checked the moby.org discography and it's
>not there.
>thanks!


Yes, this is an official promo interview disk!  I also saw it last month at
a local
record & CD fair, but I didn't have any money left to buy it (they had sooo
many
rare Moby things!)  I don't have any further info on it, that's why I
haven't included
it in moby.org's discography.  So if you have the info (cat # and the
questions,
like the way the Animal Rights interview promo is listed in the discography)
you can mail it to me and I'll get it in my discography on
http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/moby/modisc.htm
And I'll also update the discography for Daniel Cerman from www.moby.org
but he's very busy at the moment so I can't guarantee that the discography
on moby.org is also updated immediately....

Chris Laine wrote:
>I actually had Underwater in my hands about 2 years
>ago and decided not to buy it.  I'm kicking myself
>now....  It was used, and that was before I was really
>'into' Moby.  Ah, the ignorance of youth!

I know the feeling... also happened to me with the Hymn single back in 1994
and the ITB single in 1995 (I didn't start collecting Moby stuff until 1996)
But I was lucky these weren't that rare and I got them both last year.

(<>,,<>)
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers
Date: 03 Nov 1999 14:36:51 EST

 Saw Moby last night in a little club here in Ft Myers. There were at max 150
people so it was easy to get right to the front of the stage. It was an
incredible performance and you could tell he was having a great time.  He had
tons of energy and was always bouncing around. Made a lot of jokes and took
some requests. Played a jazzed up version of Stairway to Heaven by Led
Zeppelin. He can really play the bongos. Mostly same songs as in Atlanta.
Ended the night by playing the fastest song ever made, and he stood on the
keyboard with his hands above his head covered in blue laser light and fog.
It was a fantastic image.
 On his way out he told me he was going to drink some beers and relax since
the band had a 4 hour trip the next day to Orlando to fly to Italy, and
previously they drove all day from Atlanta.
  Talked to his soundboard and lighting guy. He was from England and said
they had played some smaller clubs. I would have thought this was the
smallest. Also said they have been on tour for 4 months and have had less
than 5 free days when they weren't traveling or setting up. He was looking
forward to going home to relax soon.
Asked him how he got the job and he told me a headhunter.
  Also found out Moby's drummer was from Ft. Myers.

All in all one of the best live performances I've seen.

Blake



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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers
Date: 03 Nov 1999 12:54:11 -0800 (PST)

--- [e-mail] wrote:
>   Also found out Moby's drummer was from Ft.
> Myers.

Funny, in Madison, he said he was from Madison,
WI.  Hmmmm....  ::scratches head::

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From: "Kerry Cianos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers / Drummer
Date: 03 Nov 1999 15:47:57 -0500

  Yeah, and in Atlanta he said the same thing.  In fact, he went so far as
to say the drummer was from Buckhead (an wealthy affluent part of town),
although he said the drummer was from the poor side of Buckhead :)

  kerry

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:54 PM


--- [e-mail] wrote:
>   Also found out Moby's drummer was from Ft.
> Myers.

Funny, in Madison, he said he was from Madison,
WI.  Hmmmm....  ::scratches head::

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 03 Nov 1999 16:00:36 EST

maybe i'll go...i need to find a good way to get there and back in one
piece..i'm in jersey so it might be a pain in the ass...anyone know where how
far Plainview is from NYC..thanks..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) EIW promo?
Date: 03 Nov 1999 16:03:30 EST

In a message dated 11/03/1999 11:27:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< -Steve
 an unapologetic but courteous smoker >>

That's the best way to be..  If you smoke your chose and shouldn't be
persecuted for it (though mild health lectures from time to time should be
understood from those who care) but you shouldn't subject others to diseased
lungs.  Applause to you.  =)



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From: natalie leblanc <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 03 Nov 1999 13:25:27 -0800 (PST)

hey--
i live in nyc, and i think that the LIRR goes to
Hicksville which is 3 miles from Plainview in about 50
minutes.  it's cheap too.  and for moby, very worth
it...natalie.

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> maybe i'll go...i need to find a good way to get
> there and back in one
> piece..i'm in jersey so it might be a pain in the
> ass...anyone know where how
> far Plainview is from NYC..thanks..elie
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers
Date: 03 Nov 1999 17:05:05 EST

i went to the show in d.c. and he said the drummer was from d.c.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers
Date: 03 Nov 1999 17:19:11 EST

I see a trend here.............................

Blake



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From: Chris Perkins <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) actions records question
Date: 03 Nov 1999 14:33:35 -0700

apologies for sending this to the list, but i wanted to ask a question of
the people here who have dealt with Action Records previously.  when you
ordered your stuff, did you get it sent via insured mail or just normally?
cause i've heard people getting their orders within a week or less, but it's
been over a week and a half and i still have yet to receive my order or hear
anything from them.  i'm just curious, because when dealing with a
particular import store in the past, my CD's came in horrible condition, so
i sent them back, but failed to send them back via insured mail, therefore
they are forever lost in the mail and i was out 480.  anyway, please help,
because i'm grealy looking forward to hearing the new moby singles as well
as the other stuff i bought (including the first and only non-moby vinyl
i've bought in the past 2 years aside from "the brown album" by primus,
which was a gift).  anyway...


Chris Perkins        [e-mail]        ICQ #: 32689797

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phones are.  If you ask them about phonebooks, their heads will explode.-




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) actions records question
Date: 03 Nov 1999 17:35:49 EST

In a message dated 11/03/1999 2:32:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< apologies for sending this to the list, but i wanted to ask a question of
 the people here who have dealt with Action Records previously.  >>

I just got my new BT Movement in Still Life from Action.  It came in about 2
weeks (but then again it was a new release) and regular air mail.  It was in
pretty good condition cept the cover of the jewel case was cracked and no
shrink wrappage, but I'll live.  They're my favorite import currently untill
I see how music express does.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) actions records question
Date: 03 Nov 1999 18:01:59 EST

i recently bought the two 'WDMHFSB?' singles from action records and it came
in about a week by regular air mail.  they also do a very good job
packaging... lots of bubble wrap:) well, if you don't receive your order
soon, i advise you to send them a message... but i'm pretty sure they'll
arrive!

later,
-tina
"Do not disparage other religions and praise your own.  You will hurt your
own tradition by doing so." --Dharmaraja Ashoka in Shahgadi Edict



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From:    [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 18:34:13 -0500 (EST)

just one small addition to the never-ending discussion on veganism...i
think i lot of vegans would argue that their abstainance from diary
products is in part a political gesture. The fact is that in modern times,
agricultural process is such that in nearly all cases, the animals we rely
on for the production of dairy foods are mistreated. I point you to the
book written by John Robbins called "Diet for a New America" if you are
interested in learning what exactly is involved in bringing that tasty
cheese to our dinner tables. There is also a significant amount of
scientific, academic debate as to whether or not dairy products are indeed
healthy. We should ask ourselves why it is that we are so convinced that
they are good for us: I know I have been bombarded by advertising
campaigns and elementary school health class lectures featuring
educational materials sponsored by dairy producers. With enough economic
power behind you, it is possible to convince whole societies of the value
of your product, and dairy is no different. There has been a tremendous
effort made by the dairy industry in convincing North Americans that milk
and milk products are the ONLY way we can get sufficient calcium and other
nutrients. This simply is not true. I don't claim it's a big conspiracy,
but if soy producing farmers invested billions of dollars into convincing
us of the merits of soy, I'll bet many people would eventually begin to
think
that soy was the only healthy option. It may well be that one can be
healthy and consume dairy products, but for many vegans, the more
compassionate options persuade us to abstain. Cows need to be milked, yes,
but they do not need to live in tiny crates without seeing sunlight or
getting exercise, nor should they subsist on diets that support the
production of large amounts of milk, but are not healthy for the sow.
Veganism- in its better, non-preaching moments- protests the excesses and
greed of modernity.



now i will be quiet...:)


On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 11/03/1999 6:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<  Moby with drinking.
>  And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ? Meat ?
>  Eggs ? or Cheese ?
>  everything dies. >>
>
> Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot down and then doesn't
> make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's different.  Meat, eggs and
> cheese are not the end of the world, especially cheese..  One thing I don't
> understand about vegans.. Cows r in pain if they aren't milked, or at least
> extreme discomfort.  What's wrong with milk products beyond the threat of
> lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the cow, it actually makes them
> feel better.  But I digress and I don't want to start another vegan arguement.
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 19:21:58 EST

In a message dated 11/03/1999 3:36:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< There is also a significant amount of
 scientific, academic debate as to whether or not dairy products are indeed
 healthy. >>

It's not actually. I hate to biogically smart cuz I'm not, but its been found
that 95% of the population (or some ridicoulousy high number) is actually
lactose intolerant.  After a certain age, when primary growth is completed
and milk is no longer needed for its calcium content, the body stops
producing the enzyme necessary to break down lactose.  Just one of those
biological things.  I personally avoid large quantities of dairy because it
just makes my body feel bad after eating it.  And I personally think, to go
way off, the high dairy consumption is what's leading to the growing obesity
rate because people just can't digest it.  And I don't even want to go into
to the treatment of cows because  a lot of its terrible and saddens me
because it is so unnecessary.  And those poor little baby cows they make into
 veal... But I personally like to stay away from political earth shattering
issues because those going against the system usually loose, and I do not
loose very well.  I respect vegans as long as it's not a status thing for
them (like its the cool thing to be at this current moment in time)  I've
also met vegetarians who are vegetarians because they don't like vegetables
so they want to kill them.  People are weird.  Whatever makes you feel like
you're being the person you want to be.  Enough.



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 19:35:13 -0800

WHen did you get the idea that cows live in tiny crates without sunlight...
I lived in tx for 18 years.  Cows graze acres of land and eat large amounts
of food..they do not have a hard harsh life.  They sleep, walk around, sleep
some more, eat, and occasionly get milked.  I mean have you really ever been
on a farm.  It is just kind of logic that cows aren't kept in cages with no
light.  They wouldn't even be able to survive that way.  Just because they
are in captivity doesn't make it totally cruel and evil like.  Anyways..I
will continue to drink milk because it tastes good and it gives calcium.
You can drink your soy milk and eat your tofu.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:34 PM


just one small addition to the never-ending discussion on veganism...i
think i lot of vegans would argue that their abstainance from diary
products is in part a political gesture. The fact is that in modern times,
agricultural process is such that in nearly all cases, the animals we rely
on for the production of dairy foods are mistreated. I point you to the
book written by John Robbins called "Diet for a New America" if you are
interested in learning what exactly is involved in bringing that tasty
cheese to our dinner tables. There is also a significant amount of
scientific, academic debate as to whether or not dairy products are indeed
healthy. We should ask ourselves why it is that we are so convinced that
they are good for us: I know I have been bombarded by advertising
campaigns and elementary school health class lectures featuring
educational materials sponsored by dairy producers. With enough economic
power behind you, it is possible to convince whole societies of the value
of your product, and dairy is no different. There has been a tremendous
effort made by the dairy industry in convincing North Americans that milk
and milk products are the ONLY way we can get sufficient calcium and other
nutrients. This simply is not true. I don't claim it's a big conspiracy,
but if soy producing farmers invested billions of dollars into convincing
us of the merits of soy, I'll bet many people would eventually begin to
think
that soy was the only healthy option. It may well be that one can be
healthy and consume dairy products, but for many vegans, the more
compassionate options persuade us to abstain. Cows need to be milked, yes,
but they do not need to live in tiny crates without seeing sunlight or
getting exercise, nor should they subsist on diets that support the
production of large amounts of milk, but are not healthy for the sow.
Veganism- in its better, non-preaching moments- protests the excesses and
greed of modernity.



now i will be quiet...:)


On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 11/03/1999 6:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<  Moby with drinking.
>  And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ?
Meat ?
>  Eggs ? or Cheese ?
>  everything dies. >>
>
> Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot down and then doesn't
> make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's different.  Meat, eggs
and
> cheese are not the end of the world, especially cheese..  One thing I
don't
> understand about vegans.. Cows r in pain if they aren't milked, or at
least
> extreme discomfort.  What's wrong with milk products beyond the threat of
> lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the cow, it actually makes
them
> feel better.  But I digress and I don't want to start another vegan
arguement.
>





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From: Keith Clancy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) EIW promo?
Date: 03 Nov 1999 20:07:31 -0500

Someone was asking about the Everything is wrong promo (really its just
the interview disk).  I don't think it has been added to either of the
discographys by Daniel or Bart yet but here is some info on it below, it
is just a interview disk with only Moby answering questions no music and
(it has the same cover and image on the UK version ) to Everything is
Wrong with the questions  in the inner sleeve.

Moby - Everything is Wrong interview disk
Mute Records, Moby Int 1, 1995  (44:38)
45 - questions which i will soon type up and all but range from the
regular stuff of the time to some interesting things.

Bye for now Keith
NP - Rythem is Rythem - Strings of Life







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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 03 Nov 1999 17:27:36 -0800 (PST)

try getting there from hesperia michigan to new york..

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> maybe i'll go...i need to find a good way to get
> there and back in one
> piece..i'm in jersey so it might be a pain in the
> ass...anyone know where how
> far Plainview is from NYC..thanks..elie
>
>


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) smoking
Date: 03 Nov 1999 17:32:44 -0800 (PST)


Well i happen to live on a farm, not with cows, but i
do have neighbors with cows, and what about the little
calfs in like igloo type dog houses where they barely
have room to move around..that's a terrible way to
live.
--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> WHen did you get the idea that cows live in tiny
> crates without sunlight...
> I lived in tx for 18 years.  Cows graze acres of
> land and eat large amounts
> of food..they do not have a hard harsh life.  They
> sleep, walk around, sleep
> some more, eat, and occasionly get milked.  I mean
> have you really ever been
> on a farm.  It is just kind of logic that cows
> aren't kept in cages with no
> light.  They wouldn't even be able to survive that
> way.  Just because they
> are in captivity doesn't make it totally cruel and
> evil like.  Anyways..I
> will continue to drink milk because it tastes good
> and it gives calcium.
> You can drink your soy milk and eat your tofu.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf
> Of
> [e-mail]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:34 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
>
>
> just one small addition to the never-ending
> discussion on veganism...i
> think i lot of vegans would argue that their
> abstainance from diary
> products is in part a political gesture. The fact is
> that in modern times,
> agricultural process is such that in nearly all
> cases, the animals we rely
> on for the production of dairy foods are mistreated.
> I point you to the
> book written by John Robbins called "Diet for a New
> America" if you are
> interested in learning what exactly is involved in
> bringing that tasty
> cheese to our dinner tables. There is also a
> significant amount of
> scientific, academic debate as to whether or not
> dairy products are indeed
> healthy. We should ask ourselves why it is that we
> are so convinced that
> they are good for us: I know I have been bombarded
> by advertising
> campaigns and elementary school health class
> lectures featuring
> educational materials sponsored by dairy producers.
> With enough economic
> power behind you, it is possible to convince whole
> societies of the value
> of your product, and dairy is no different. There
> has been a tremendous
> effort made by the dairy industry in convincing
> North Americans that milk
> and milk products are the ONLY way we can get
> sufficient calcium and other
> nutrients. This simply is not true. I don't claim
> it's a big conspiracy,
> but if soy producing farmers invested billions of
> dollars into convincing
> us of the merits of soy, I'll bet many people would
> eventually begin to
> think
> that soy was the only healthy option. It may well be
> that one can be
> healthy and consume dairy products, but for many
> vegans, the more
> compassionate options persuade us to abstain. Cows
> need to be milked, yes,
> but they do not need to live in tiny crates without
> seeing sunlight or
> getting exercise, nor should they subsist on diets
> that support the
> production of large amounts of milk, but are not
> healthy for the sow.
> Veganism- in its better, non-preaching moments-
> protests the excesses and
> greed of modernity.
>
>
>
> now i will be quiet...:)
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 11/03/1999 6:24:45 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> > [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > <<  Moby with drinking.
> >  And who know which of Moby's radicalisms will
> fall down next. Drugs ?
> Meat ?
> >  Eggs ? or Cheese ?
> >  everything dies. >>
> >
> > Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a
> shot down and then doesn't
> > make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's
> different.  Meat, eggs
> and
> > cheese are not the end of the world, especially
> cheese..  One thing I
> don't
> > understand about vegans.. Cows r in pain if they
> aren't milked, or at
> least
> > extreme discomfort.  What's wrong with milk
> products beyond the threat of
> > lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the
> cow, it actually makes
> them
> > feel better.  But I digress and I don't want to
> start another vegan
> arguement.
> >
>
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 03 Nov 1999 20:31:53 EST

Hey Elie!

I think that its about 35 to 45 minutes away from NYC.  If you do go let's
make sure that we see each other this time!  =)


Marisa



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) vanderbilt
Date: 03 Nov 1999 20:42:46 EST

cool.....i'm trying to make my friend drive this time...we'll see what
happens...chances are i will probably end up driving again..well..later...elie



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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) (NMR) Gay rights
Date: 03 Nov 1999 21:19:00 EST

Hello, this is really off topic but I know gay rights were being discussed
here awhile back, so I figured I'd forward this out.

>
 > On October 6, outside Laramie, Wyoming, Matthew
 > Shepherd, a 21-year-old
 >
 > University of Wyoming student, was tortured, beaten,
 > and left tied to a
 > pole
 > in the freezing cold. Six days later, he died of his
 > wounds in Poudre
 > Valley
 > Hospital, Fort Collins, Colorado. Matthew was murdered
 > because he was
 > gay
 > and because he was a prominent and charismatic member
 > of the gay and
 > lesbian
 > student group on campus.
 >
 > Right now Wyoming and Colorado have no anti-hate crime
 > laws; the state
 > legislature in Wyoming has voted down anti-bias bills
 > for each of the
 > past three years. There is an effort in Wyoming and
 > Colorado to enact
 > Matthew Shepard Laws, which would strongly punish the
 > perpetrators of
 > hate
 > crimes. This petition demands the broadening of
 > federal anti-hate crime
 >
 > laws.
 >
 > Opening Statement:
 >
 > "We state strongly that violence on the basis of
 > sexual orientation,
 > race or
 > gender is wrong, is evil, is reprehensible." John
 > Buehren, President of
 > The
 > Unitarian Universalist speaks for Unitarian
 > Universalists, but his
 > words are
 > reflected in the hearts of people everywhere who
 > believe we must speak
 > out,
 > take action against, and condemn hate crimes in all
 > their ugly forms.
 >
 > A resolution follows:
 >
 > WHEREAS:
 > We affirm and promote the inherent worth and dignity
 > of every person.
 > WHEREAS:
 > We commend the efforts of those individuals who
 > dedicate their lives to
 >
 > causes of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
 > THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:
 > That we hereby urge the passage of The Hate Crimes
 > Prevention
 > Act(HCPA),
 > H.R.3081 and S.1529. The Hate Crimes Prevention Act
 > (HCPA), H.R.3081and
 >
 > S.1529, would amend current federal law (which permits
 > federal
 > prosecution
 > of a hate crime only if the crime was motivated by
 > bias based on religion, national origin, or color) to
 > include real or
 > perceived sexual orientation, gender, and disability
 > so the FBI would
 > be
 > able to investigate and prosecute violent hate crimes
 > against gays,
 > lesbians, and bisexuals. Under this bill, hate crimes
 > that cause death
 > or
 > bodily injury because of prejudice can be investigated
 > federally,
 > regardless
 > of whether the victim was exercising a federally
 > protected right. The
 > only
 > way that our representatives can be aware of the base
 > of support or
 > this
 > change to the current law is by making our voices
 > heard.
 >
 > Please add your name to this petition and forward it,
 > to then be
 > forwarded
 > to the President of The United States; the Vice
 > President of the United
 >
 > States; and our United States Senators and House
 > Members.
 >
 > Petition Management:
 > 1. This petition is being passed around the Internet.
 > Please add your
 > name
 > to it so that we can have tougher laws against all
 > hate crimes.  Please
 > keep
 > the petition rolling. Do not reply to me.  Please
 > sign and forward to others to sign. This is being
 > forwarded to several
 > people at once to add their names. It will not matter
 > if many people
 > receive
 > the same list as the names are being managed.
 >
 > 2. If you print out this petition for circulation and
 > signing, please
 > email
 > the listing of names with locations to the email
 > address:
 > [e-mail] (an email address created to
 > receive this petition).
 >
 > Include a note to indicate you have a hand-signed
 > petition and include
 > the
 > number of names listed.
 >
 > 3. If you happen to be the 50th, 100th, 150th, 200th,
 > 250th, (...) name
 > on
 > this petition, please forward a copy to the above
 > address.
 >
 > 4. If you sign, please pass it on to others. If not,
 > please do not kill
 > it.
 > Send it on to the email address: [e-mail]
 >
 > Thank You,
 > Leslie Palmer
 >
 > I cannot stay silent, my outrage and compassion will
 > not allow. Add a
 > number
 > and sign at the bottom of this list.
 >
 >     001) Leslie Palmer, Jacksonville, FL
 >     002) Stephen Silverman, South Burlington, VT
 >     003) Wayne Arnason
 >     004) Theo Diamond, Charlottesville, Va
 >     005) Sasha Kopf, Northampton, MA / Princeton, NJ
 >     006) Geoffrey B. Metz, Tufts Univ., Medford, MA
 >     007) Emily Sporl, Tufts University, Medford, MA
 >     008) Tai Collins, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     009) Danielle Lazarin, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     010) Priscilla Morales, Yale University, New Haven,
 > CT
 >     011) Lydia Pace, Yale University, New Haven, CT
 >     012) Julia Goren, Williams College, Williamstown,
 > MA
 >     013) Jamie Waxman, Columbia University
 >     014) Rebecca Zimmerman, Columbia University, NY
 >     015) Ariel Meyerstein, Columbia University, NY
 >     017) Aaron Finkel, University of Missouri-Columbia,
 > MO
 >     018) Sally Noedel, Truman State Univ., Kirksville,
 > MO
 >     019) Kim Cook, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     020) Molly Mitchell, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     021) Jeremy Schwab, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     022) Aaron Manheim, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     023) Rebecca Pronsky, Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
 >     024) Rebecca Milburn, Wesleyan Univ., Middletown,
 > CT
 >     025) Christene DeJong, Wesleyan Univ., Middletown,
 > CT
 >     026) Lisa Lapman, Wellesley College, Wellesley, MA
 >     027) Julia Sussner, Wellesley College, MA
 >     028) Adrian Dellecker, Trinity College, CT
 >     029) Sarah Mullen, Trinity College, CT
 >     030) Phu Thai, University of Rhode Island,
 > Kingston, RI
 >     031) Leigh Phillips, Wheaton College, Norton, MA
 >     032) Dominic Rozzi, Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY
 >     033) Matthew Small, Heidelburg College, Tiffin OH
 >     034) Linda Roach, Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY
 >     035) Julian Halliday, Schlumberger AS, Columbus, OH
 >     036) Elizabeth Wohler, University of Virginia,
 > Charlottesville, VA
 >     037) Susan Gordon, University of Virginia,
 > Charlottesville, VA
 >     038) Heidi Cook, Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY
 >     039) Ariel Spira-Cohen, Vassar College,
 > Poughkeepsie, NY
 >     040) Kerry Maxwell, Hamilton College, Clinton, NY
 >     041) Emma McLaren, Hamilton College, Clinton, NY
 >     042) Michelle Marsidi, Brown University,
 > Providence, RI
 >     043) Eliana Garcia, Connecticut College, New
 > London, CT
 >     044) Jaime Viola, Farmington, CT
 >     045) Ryan Ihrke, Luther College, Decorah, IA
 >     046) Perry-O Sliwa, Luther College, Decorah, IA
 >     047) Gui Dall'Stella, New York, NY
 >     048) Abdul Knowles, Dain Rauscher Inc.
 >     049) Gerry Petersen, St. Ansgar Schools, St.
 > Ansgar, IA
 >     050) Lori Hagen, Luther College, Decorah, IA
 >     051) Jennifer Kirking, Prairie du Chien, WI
 >     052) Regina Check, Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin
 >     053) Sarah Guidotti, Duquesne University,
 > Pittsburgh, PA
 >     054) Camella Dimitri, Tulane University, New
 > Orleans, LA
 >     055) C.M.Ralph, Redwood City, CA
 >     056) Sarah E. Tigerman, Redwood City, CA
 >     057) Karen R Zachow, San Francisco, CA
 >     058) Sara Jorde, Minneapolis, MN
 >     059) Don Sommers, Minneapolis, MN
 >     060) Shawn Allison, St. Paul, MN
 >     061) Christine Cucciarre, Cleveland, OH
 >     062) Frank Cucciarre, Cleveland, OH
 >     063) Karen Jewell-Kett, Cleveland, OH
 >     064) Ronald L. Buford, Cleveland, OH
 >     065) David S. Slobodien, DC., West Hollywood, CA.
 >     066) Patrick Casey, MD, Los Angeles, CA
 >     067) Cristian Cifuentes, West Hollywood, CA
 >     068) Gary Jimenez, Montebello, CA
 >     069) Paige Van Riper, Playa del Rey, CA
 >     070) Helena Delu, Altadena, CA
 >     071) Edward E. Boughton III, Ventura CA
 >     072) Edward Mitchell, Los Angeles CA
 >     073) Monica Mitchell, Los Angeles, CA
 >     074) Jack Shih, Los Angeles, CA
 >     075) Eva Aguilera, Los Angeles, CA
 >     076) Natasha Gerasimova, Venice, CA
 >     077) Andreas Sengebusch, Encino, CA
 >     078) Melissa Ruggeri, Studio City, CA
 >     079) Mary Bredlau, Dallas TX
 >     080) L.A.Ragland, Dallas, TX
 >     081) Jackie McShane, Dallas, TX
 >     082) Richard Clayton, Dallas, TX
 >     083) Tammi D.Baker, Houston, TX
 >     084) Adam Glick, Boston, MA
 >     085) Jeremy Glick, Greenwich, CT
 >     086) Stacey Smith, New Canaan, CT
 >     087) Robin Bouvier, Boxborough, MA
 >     088) Kari Rusing, Norwalk, CT
 >     089) Melissa Brown, Washington, DC
 >     090) Tanya Burrwell, Washington, DC
 >     091) Alberto Figueroa-Garcia, Washington, DC
 >     092) Charlie Buquet, Santa Cruz, Ca
 >     093) Tracy Ballard, Santa Cruz, CA
 >     094) Marcus Kettles, NYC, NY
 >     095) Paul Pecorino, NYC, NY
 >     096) Jamie Sanford, Gainesville, FL
 >     097) Beryl Firestone, Tampa, FL
 >     098) Ryan Goldenberg, Tampa, FL
 >     099) David Niersbach, Richmond, IN
 >     100) Sara Parliament, Richmond, IN
 >     101) Erin Walker, Colorado State University, Fort
 > Collins, CO
 >     102) Amber Armstrong, Colorado Springs, CO
 >     103) Ginger Kite, Colorado Springs, CO
 >     104) Matt Joiner, Boulder, CO
 >     105) Anya Domlesky, Portland, OR
 >     106) Caitlin Carlson, Portland, OR
 >     107) Janel Wright, Portland, Ore.
 >     108) Charlene Ongelungel, Portland, OR
 >     109) Muranda Brooker, Portland, OR
 >     110) Tera Cushman, Portlant OR
 >     111) Rachel Greenough, Portland, OR
 >     112) Stephanie Nicora, Pebble Beach, CA
 >     113) Julie Goetzen, San Diego, CA
 >     114) Dana Ung, San Diego, CA
 >     115) Sirena Ung, San Diego, CA
 >     116) Keri LaPrise, Templeton, MA
 >     117) Jared Graves, Otter River, MA
 >     118) Amanda LeGay, Fitchburg , Ma
 >     119) Joshua Berg, West Bloomfield Mi
 >     120) Michael Canner, West Bloomfield MI
 >     130) Anna Peterson, West Bloomfield, MI
 >     131) Lindsay McFedries, Bloomfield Hills, MI
 >     132) Kathleen Jimbo, West Bloomfield, MI
 >     133) Justine Yeung, Beverly Hills, MI
 >     134) J. Blaine Piraneo, Manalapan, NJ
 >     135) Timothy Arnold, Colonia, NJ
 >     136) Sara Okun, Linden, NJ
 >     137) Steven Rosete Woodbridge, vA
 >     138) Carolyne Williams, Fairfax Station, VA
 >     139) Lauren Shelton, Fairfax Station, VA
 >     140) John H. Beyer IV, Chicago, IL.
 >     141) Kathy Bianchi, Chicago, IL
 >     142) Ed Garza, Chicago, IL
 >     143) Jonathan "Bumper" Carroll, Chicago, IL
 >     144) Gillian Vigman, Chicago, IL
 >     145) Ann Gradman, NY
 >     146) Gary McDonnell, NY
 >     147) Craig Retchless, NYC, NY
 >     148) Valerie L. Retchless, Syracuse, NY
 >     149) Anna Meade
 >     150) Christopher Walton
 >     151) Jennifer Moe, Eugene, OR
 >     152) Shannon Bond, Seattle, WA
 >     153) Karen Malia List, Seattle,WA
 >     154) Kim Miskowicz, SF, CA
 >     155) Shayne Spaulding, SF, CA
 >     156) Tiela Chalmers, SF, CA
 >     157) Paul Nemrow, SF, CA
 >     158) Allen Sabourin, SF, CA
 >     159) Jim Sherrill, SF, CA
 >     160) Thom McDaniel, Houston, TX
 >     161) Enrique Gonalez, Houston, TX
 >     162) Will Browne, Moraga, CA
 >     163) Ken Nicholas, Nashville, TN.
 >     164) Keifer Meeks, Nasvhille, TN
 >     165) Vincent Wix, Nashville, TN
 >     166) Jim Harper, Nashville, TN
 >     167) Rick DeSlover, Nashville, TN
 >     168) Kayte Watts, Portland,OR
 >     169) Jeff Hays, Portland, OR
 >     170) Jennifer Fowler, Vancouver, WA
 >     171) Amy N. Haight, Vancouver, WA
 >     172) Claire Colleen Rourk, Vancouver, WA
 >     173) Kevin Schumacher, Medina, OH
 >     174) Anthony D'Amato, Brick, NJ
 >     175) GianCarlo Durland, Long Branch, New Jersey.
 >     176) Eric Sharp, Los Angeles, California
 >     177) Alyssa Boyle, Los Angeles, CA
 >     178) Gene Michael Barrera, Los Angeles, CA
 >     179) Karen Sperling, New York, N.Y.
 >     180) Vicki Temkin, Encino, CA
 >     181) David Skernick. West Hills, CA
 >     182) Tony Donaldson, Sherman Oaks, CA
 >     183} Julie Gengo, San Diego, CA
 >     184) Carolyn Gengo Di Domenico, NY, NY
 >     185) Fabio Girelli-Carasi, New York, NY
 >     186) Armando Rotondi, Pittsburgh, PA
 >     187) Jim & Caroline Grindrod Madison WI
 >     188) David Grindrod, Madison WI
 >     189) Emily Engelland Wilson, Huntington, WV
 >     190) Paula Choquette Rachal, Huntington, WV
 >     191) Robert Tyler Rachal, Huntington, WV
 >     192) S. Scott Hunter, Parkersburg, WV
 >     193) Wendell N. Gibbs, Jr., Cincinnati, OH
 >     194) Lisa R. Hughes, Cincinnati, OH
 >     195) Sue Freedman, Cincinnati, OH
 >     196) Milton L. Freiberg
 >     197) Ed Flesch, San Francisco, CA
 >     198) Robyn Breiman, Cincinnati, OH
 >     199) Leslie Cannon, Cincinnati, OH
 >     200) Elizabeth M. Levy, Cincinnati, OH
 >     201) Dolores D. Galloway, Denver, CO
 >     202) Joe & Millie Everett, Toronto, ON
 >     203) Brad Cafarelli, West Hollywood, CA
 >     204) Marc Hulett, Marina del Rey, CA
 >     205) Tim Tomlinson, Seattle, WA
 >     206) Steven B. Johnson, San Diego, CA
 >     207) Tom Trainor, Seattle, WA
 >     208) Brad Turner, Seattle, WA
 >     209) Alphonce J. Brown, Jr., Houston, TX
 >     210) Daniel R. Zorn, Houston, TX
 >     211) Margaret O'Donnell, Houston, TX
 >     212) Banghwa Lee Casado, Houston, TX
 >     213) Peter V. Nguyen, Houston, TX
 >     214) Ann McKithan, Houston, TX
 >     215) Geri Davis, Houston, TX
 >     216) Mark Siskel, Houston, TX
 >     217) Chris Lewis, Houston, TX
 >     218) John L. Alexander, Los Angeles, CA
 >     219) John Musser, San Francisco, CA
 >     220) Greg Birdsall, West Hollywood, CA
 >     221) Brett Klein, West Hollywood, CA
 >     222) Ernst Laurel, Los Angeles, CA
 >     223) Jenny Campbell, West Toluca Lake, CA
 >     224) Lori Korngiebel, Los Angeles, CA
 >     225) Julie S. Gabler, Los Angeles, CA
 >     226) Ashley C. Swanson, Denton, TX
 >     227) Anne K. Swanson, Aurora, CO
 >     228) Kelly D. Gerald, Miami Beach, FL
 >     229) Elaine M. Allen, Miramar, Fl
 >     230) Andrew Briskin, Hollywood, CA
 >     231) Austin Foxxe, Los Angeles, CA
 >     232) Erica Springer, West Hollywood, CA
 >     233) Orly Ravid, Hollywood CA
 >     234) Ellen Flanders, New York, NY
 >     235) Sasha Darling, Toronto ON Cda
 >     236) Robert Paul, Toronto, ON, Canada
 >     237) Kirk Bryant, Toronto, ON, Canada (U.S. &
 > Canadian Citizen)
 >     238) Paul Henrik Borup-Jorgensen BC, Canada(Landed
 > Immigrant-Danish
 >          Citizen)
 >     239) Anders Bjorn Langelo, Lyngby, Denmark
 >     240) Benn Lohse, ECMC Secretary, Denmark
 >     241) Rob Scheers, Mr. Leather Europe '98, Antwerp
 >     242) Arthur Rodel, Berne, Switzerland
 >     243) Stoeps Meyer, Ormalingen, Switzerland
 >     244) Michael Eadie,Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 >     245) Mitchell Bernard, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 >     250) Chris Barton, Bedminster, New Jersey
 >     251) Matt Cotton, Plainfield, NJ
 >     252) Brian Azzarello, Plainfield, NJ
 >     253) Jim Dobosiewicz, Plainfield, NJ
 >     254) Ronnie Shumate, Chicago, IL
 >     255) Eric Brusch, Chicago, IL
 >     256) Kent Larson, Alexandria, VA
 >     257) Parry Snow, Alexandria, VA
 >     258) Mark Parker, Washington, DC
 >     259) Mark Uherek, Washington, DC
 >     260) Amy Swetanm Euless, TX
 >     261) Cindy Gage Euless, TX
 >     262) Gordon Byrne Dallas, TX
 >     263) Louis Bellner, Toledo, OH
 >     264) Donald Weiler, Toledo, Oh
 >     265) William F. Russell, Placentia, CA
 >     266) Cynthia Bennett, Huntington Beach, CA
 >     267) Diane Robbins, Ph.D., Huntington Beach, CA
 >     268) Nancy Polites, Newport Beach, CA
 >     269) Mr. & Mrs. Ted Bach, Fountain Valley, CA
 >     270) Mr. and Mrs. Mark Stine, Denver, CO
 >     271) Randy Mergler, Bellvue, CO
 >     272) Nancy Rehe-Arloski, Bellvue, CO
 >     273) Nancy Wolf, PhD, Glide, OR
 >     274) Linda Hirsch, Wichita, KS
 >     275) Robert Harvey, Tucson, AZ
 >     276) Miriam Andre, Phoenix, AZ
 >     277) Gracie Salcedo, Scottsdale, AZ
 >     278) Chad Smith, Scottsdale, AZ
 >     279) Erin Flaherty, Tempe, AZ
 >     280) Grace Cayco, Phoenix, AZ
 >     281) Paige Whitney, Phoenix, AZ
 >     282) Christy Strand, Phoenix, AZ
 >     283) Amy Todd, Phoenix, AZ
 >     284) Kate Manning, Charlottesville, VA
 >     285) Susan Baker, San Francisco, CA
 >     286) Lesley Weaver, San Francisco, CA
 >     287) Laurence G. Lyon, Ph.D., San Francisco, CA
 >     288) Kathleen Malang M.Ed. Berkeley Heights,N.J.
 >     289) Mona J. Frey-King, Fort Lawn, SC
 >     290) D Erik King, Fort Lawn, SC
 >     291) Bob O'Hearn, Media, PA
 >     292) Jane M. Hart, Malvern, PA
 >     293) Floyd D. Page, New York, NY
 >     294) Andrea Versenyi, New York, NY
 >     295) The Rev'd Stephen Harding, Brooklyn, NY
 >     296) Hillary Miller, Washington D.C.
 >     297) Jonathan Selbin, New York, NY
 >     298) Amanda Steiner, Seattle, WA
 >     299) Jesse Houlding, Seattle, WA
 >     300) Ernest Lesh, Oakland, CA
 >     301) David Fife, Santa Cruz, CA
 >     302) John Fife, Tucson, AZ
 >     303) Deanna Willett, Tucson, AZ
 >     304) Diane Willett, Naperville, Il
 >     305) Hania Richmond, Chicago,Il
 >     306) Mark Febonio, Chicago,IL
 >     307) Pamela Madden,Peabody,Ma
 >     308) Tricia Weaver, Beverly, Ma
 >     309) Heather Cook, Beverly, MA
 >     310) Katherine Drake, New York, NY
 >     311) Caitlin Delohery, Stanford University, CA
 >     312) Josie Kovash, Stanford University, CA
 >     313) Rebecca Price, Stanford University, CA
 >     314) Susan Crumiller, Tulane University, LA
 >     315) Rita Berkey, Keene, NH
 >     316) Amy Charrona, Keene,NH
 >     317) Jaime Ingalls, Keene, NH
 >     318) Lori Dupre, Keene, NH
 >     319) Sarah White, Keene, NH
 >     320) Michelle Rothberg, Nashua, NH
 >     321) Jen Jenkins, Machias, ME
 >     322) Christy Jenkins, Nashua, NH
 >     323) Chirs Wilkinson, Nashua, NH
 >     324) Stephen Hallmark, Hollis, NH
 >     325) jen mcdonald, nashua nh
 >     326) Dee Wolfson, Nashua, NH
 >     327) Ashley Bellerose Nashua, NH
<<<<<328) Jules Flynn, Nashua. NH
         329) Joanna Lubkin, Nashua NH
 > NOTE: It is preferable that you Select the entirety of
 > this letter and
 > then
 > COPY it into a new outgoing message, add your name to
 > the bottom and
 > send it
 > on
 >  >>



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby Magizne spotting....
Date: 03 Nov 1999 21:25:59 EST

Hi all,
    I just figured I'd tell everyone about my "little discovery".
 I was in a store in the mall (Fairlane in Dearborn) And I almost shit myself
when I saw Moby Beautiful face Gracing the cover of....Well....I forgot the
name of the mag... But there he was! I didnt get to buy the treasure....
Poorness.... Anyways...When I see the Magizne's name I'll tell!

                                ~Felicia



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) play sighting on TV
Date: 03 Nov 1999 21:32:20 EST

hey guys,

well i randomly left the tv on while doing my physics set. anyways during
this show called roswell on the WB, the main character is in this girls room
and looking through her cds. he picks up a copy of play and says "good cd".
you could only see the back of the cd, but still how bizzarre?

riz



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) The whole "vegan" thing..and SMPTE
Date: 03 Nov 1999 22:05:10 -0800

Ok...you people can send all your emails about the treatment of animals and
this and that..and that advertisers make us believe we need to eat meat,
drink milk and whatever...basic thing is..
a lot of "vegans" became vegan after they saw this treatment of animals or
whatever, and saw how meat is made....like do you guys really think you were
born vegan.We are animals....do all animals just eat plants?  hell they eat
each other..there is a predator and a prey..their is a FOOD CHAIN.  Even
plants eat animals...You guys ever heard of Carniverous plants? Carnivorous
plants are those which attract, capture, kill, and digest invertebrates (and
the occasional vertebrate). Hundreds of species of plants from several
genera are carnivorous. The poison their prey, paralyze them and devour
them.  Plants have been proven to communicate with each other...they emit
impulses and gases that communicate with each other.  You guys seem to be
able to eat plants just fine.   Just because they stand still, and don't
make sad faces at you.  If you like eating just plants then that is fine and
dandy.  But I am getting these emails saying I am product of some conspiracy
or campaign that makes me believe I have to eat meat and milk, I eat it
because I like it. I am getting all these vegan url's shoved down my throat.
I been to a slaughterhouse, I seen it firsthand.  It is a natural thing to
eat meat, no matter how we get the meat off, it has to happen some way. Sure
the way animals are slaughtered and killed may suck...but nature is
cruel...watch some Discovery Channel footage.  I'm not justifying anything,
I'm just saying...don't keep telling me to be vegan is better when it is not
even a natural feeding habit.............if you want to come up with some
more humane way for me to eat meat, then by all means come up with an
idea.....
I really wish we could go back to talking about Moby's music.  Anyone ever
hear the SMPTE coding in the background (the high frequency buzzing) that is
put onto tape to sync with other machines...usually this is muted out so you
can't hear it, I just found it odd that he would make it audible.  This
proves though that he does not just use all digital equipment, so he likes
the sound of analog tape, which I found interesting..of course I major in
Audio, so...probably no one else cares about this :P  anyways...
enough..
Chris





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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) play sighting on TV
Date: 03 Nov 1999 20:24:24 PST

I Hate WB and its pseudohipness.

Well, maybe not ALL the WB.  I do have a weakness for...well..

(pokemon).

Luckily my fellow 16 year friend likes it too so I'm safe.


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) play sighting on TV
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:32:20 EST
>
>hey guys,
>
>well i randomly left the tv on while doing my physics set. anyways during
>this show called roswell on the WB, the main character is in this girls
>room
>and looking through her cds. he picks up a copy of play and says "good cd".
>you could only see the back of the cd, but still how bizzarre?
>
>riz
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Magizne spotting....
Date: 03 Nov 1999 23:47:13 EST

In a message dated 11/3/99 6:27:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Hi all,
     I just figured I'd tell everyone about my "little discovery".
  I was in a store in the mall (Fairlane in Dearborn) And I almost shit
myself
 when I saw Moby Beautiful face Gracing the cover of....Well....I forgot the
 name of the mag... But there he was! I didnt get to buy the treasure....
 Poorness.... Anyways...When I see the Magizne's name I'll tell!
  >>

It was Paper Magazine.  I nabbed it today.  I read his article and was
saddened because he seems a sadly realistic man.   At the end it has his
dream of meeting and marrying a wonderful woman and then moving to a large
range of land and saving money.  But he then stated that his future will
probably be holing up in the woods, making music and putting cassettes in his
mailbox for whoever wants to pick them up.  How tragically sad is that?  Just
makes me want to cry.

On the other hand, when flipping through the magazine (I'm not done reading
it yet) I totally freaked out because it had a picture of Paris Hilton in
there.  I went to school with that girl!  For a year at least, guess she
moved back to NY.  She wanted me to introduce her to my brother.  Now she's
partying up with Michael Stipe?!  Figures.  Weird, weird world.


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Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) The whole "vegan" thing..and SMPTE
Date: 03 Nov 1999 23:50:37 EST

Chris you are absolutely right and I'm siding on you on this one.  I think
there should be a new form of eating where plant cruelty is ended.  Think how
many needless heads of lettuce are killed every day to fill all those
supermarket bins.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: "Derek ~" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) lyrics to some 'play' songs
Date: 03 Nov 1999 22:00:20 MST

i recently, actually finally, purchased play. i think it's a great cd. it
has qickly become of my favorites out of all my cds. i noticed there are a
lot of lyrics in the songs on this cd. however some are kind of hard to
hear. anyway to get to the point i was wondering if anyone knows the lyrics
to parts of these songs in these parts.
in natural blues what is she saying? is it 'oooo laudy, i trouble so hard'
or 'ooooo laudy ive got my troubles with god'? i can't figure this out.
and in 'bodyrock' what does he say after he repeats 'we rock the body, rock
the body, c'mon, we rock the body, rock the body, c'mon' then he says
something like 'c'mon we gonna set you free' tha'ts the part i can't get.
that's all i was wondering.
laterz
-derek

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From: "Jamie Baade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers
Date: 04 Nov 1999 00:15:21 -0600

yeah...weird...
in Madison he said the drummer was from Madison any other cities the drummer
has been from ???
hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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> --- [e-mail] wrote:
> >   Also found out Moby's drummer was from Ft.
> > Myers.
>
> Funny, in Madison, he said he was from Madison,
> WI.  Hmmmm....  ::scratches head::
>
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>  closet and listen to Dead Cities?"
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) More in Paper Mag
Date: 04 Nov 1999 01:38:19 EST

K ~ As I was purusing Paper Mag with the beautiful Moby on the cover, I read
the section where they asked a whole slew of different people what they
envisioned for the future.  Moby's list (it's kinda long):

Faxes that can transmit and reconstruct matter.  Put a pencil in your fax
machine and an exact relicate comes out of someone else's.  Or a doughnut.
Or a guitar.  (or a rare can't not be found Moby recording, but that's just
to good to be true)

Giant bridges constructed in space and brought down to Earth, like a
transactlantic brdige running between Newfoundland and Brittany.  Or between
Miami and Havana.  Or Japan and Korea.  Or Australia and New Zealand.  (Oh
the possibilities on that one)

Artificial actors, created exclusively by computers.  (Personally, I don't
see what the difference would be, but maybe I'm missing something)

Beaches on Manhattan that we can swim from

Mainstream advertismenets with hardcore pornographic images.  (??)

Designer recreational drugs that are nutritous and good for you (sounds good
to me)

Genetically engineered microorganisms that live within us and perform
specific tasks, like destroying fat deposits, cancer cells, etc. (Yes, but
what happens when these organisms get greedy and try to take over the host?
Sorry too many movies)

New sex organs desiged by plastic surgeons.  ( I don't know how to take this
one,is he unsatisfied with what he has or is it he wants an entirely new
concept.  Guys, give me a male perspective on this one cuz I have no clue. )

And then guess who else was included in the poll?  One of our favorite
vocalists, Mimi Goese.  Her list:

Reverse microwaves to instantly cool beer and make ice in seconds.

And that's it for Mimi.

Just thought I would share because I almost completely overlooked it and
found it to be really interesting.

Toodles.


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Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: "April Kincaid" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ****** Cows and such  WAY OFF TOPIC
Date: 04 Nov 1999 07:06:50 GMT


ok people... I have lived on a farm my entire life... Cows are far from
treated cruel... Hell, I treat my cattle better than some people I know...
The reason we don't mistreat our cattle... is because they cost So DAMN
much.... they aren't cheap by any means... so take it from someone who lives
the life.... not all farmers mistreat cows... and what the hell is all this
shit about calfs and igloos... I've never heard of that ever happening....


april

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                   -april kincaid

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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rolling stone & photos
Date: 03 Nov 1999 23:21:47 -0800 (PST)

There is a small picture of Moby crouching on his keyboard (looks like)
accompanying an article about the Coachella music festival in the current
issue of Rolling Stone with Rage Against the Machine on the cover. (on
page 38)

Also, I found a little archive of photos of Moby from Coachella that was
posted on another mailing list i'm on.  A few nice ones of the man.
http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/93/40/photospread/pages/moby.html

sarah
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From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Ft Myers
Date: 04 Nov 1999 07:56:26 -0000

At the London Scala show last Monday he said that the drummer was from
Ipswich - there's probably one in the US, but I always thought it was a
fairly ordinary town in the east of the UK - Hmmm.

Much Love,

Ian

8-)


-----Original Message-----
Sent: 04 November 1999 06:15


yeah...weird...
in Madison he said the drummer was from Madison any other cities the drummer
has been from ???
hmmmmmmmmmmmm




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 04 Nov 1999 09:27:08 +0200

>
> <<  Moby with drinking.
>  And who knows which of Moby's radicalisms will fall down next. Drugs ? Meat ?
>  Eggs ? or Cheese ?
>  everything dies. >>
>
> Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot down and then doesn't
> make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's different.

Drinking is not extreme, NOT drinking is extreme i mean. But to the drugs, i
wouldn't be so sure about drugs being worse than alcohol. ( and anybody stop
blaming me that alcohol is a drug too, i'm sure we all understand the
difference). I think so, because the alcohol is much more popular and much more
accepted. Alcohol destroys families, alcohol encourages to make bad things and
is even an ability to get weaker punishment for doing them.
I mean, the drugs cause bigger damage, but to less people. Opposite to them
alcohol causes less damage, but to almost everyone.
Does anybody know any politician addicted to heroin ? But i know several
politicians addicted to Rum and Vodka and i would bet my left hand that they
made some important decisions under the influence just because alcohol is
considered to be OK.

i don't forbid to drink. i just dislike the consequences.

everybody have a nice gay !

Kohut.



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) runon/BECK
Date: 04 Nov 1999 08:31:13 -0800 (PST)


hey folks! yup im still here home sick. i was so sick
my parents let me stay home from the funeral. oh, you
say you saw me at school? well that was just sometin i
whipped up in shop. mostly latex. hey, could you pick
it up when the bell rings and walk it over to my next
class? thanx!

AAAAAAAnyway, i had to watch TRL yestrday cuz BECK was
on it worldpremiering his new video "Sexxlaws" and
while CAAAHson was interviewing BECK, they played "Run
On" in the background! its like i was grooving along
watching BECK and then im like hey this sounds like
moby! no, it is Moby! yay! as for Sexxlaws, my god is
that a great video. so damn funny. we should all be
glad theres someone like BECK out there who can do all
sorts of weird shit and just totally give the finger
to what people expect of pop muzik and just be a crazy
freak. i mean, BECK is one of the few commercially
successful people today who are just out there. the
beastie boys are kind of like that, but only on the
album trax and remixes, the singles are sort of
straitforward ya know? and of course Moby is a little
bit out there but then again hes not exactly
commercially successful, in a TRL/commercial radio
kind of way like Beck or Beasties are.
i mean, at least in the 60s and 70s when muzzik was
more psychadelic, there were some people who were just
DIFFERENT. now, everybody is the same. you know? turn
on the radio, you hear some lame rap song over an old
80s song that sucks anyway, or some recycled trend
like swing or that "mambo 5" idiot, or lame recycled
mediocre "modern rock" or some teenybopper advertising
for Abercrombie and Fitch. (not only that but now
nobody will ever hear of Low Frequency Oscillation
again...) so at least some folks like Beck and
Beasties and Moby are willing to take risks.

stop these issues posts. no politics on the dance
floor.


oh yeah, they played the new Beasties video. cute,
their usual oldschool tomfoolery, nothing too special.
but request that or Beck on  TRL page and tell them to
put S&O back on! oh yeah, the S&O tribute album is
ready! email me for the address to send 4 bucks and a
blank CD or blank 60 min tape to. i'm on 2wo trax on
this, so if you wanna hear me fuck up some Sifl & Olly
choons, contact me.

BYE!!!!!! sorry for the long un-moby rants. MOBY
RULES!!!!! MY! LOVE! WILL NEVER DIE!!!!

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SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 04 Nov 1999 11:32:06 EST

In a message dated 11/04/1999 12:29:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Alcohol destroys families, alcohol encourages to make bad things and
 is even an ability to get weaker punishment for doing them.
 I mean, the drugs cause bigger damage, but to less people. Opposite to them
 alcohol causes less damage, but to almost everyone.  >>

Okay, I'll grant you some of that, but people are not guarenteed to become
addicted to alcohol, and it is more controlable.  Yeah people get addicted,
but if you take percentages of people who drink and people who shoot up
heroin, I bet a large percentage would be "addicted" to heroin.  Alcohol is
fine as long as you exhibit some self control.  If there's a history of
alcoholism in your family, then yeah, you should stay away from it.  Like I
said, have a few drinks every once in awhile is not the end of the world.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) runon/BECK
Date: 04 Nov 1999 11:42:36 EST

In a message dated 11/04/1999 8:31:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< AAAAAAAnyway, i had to watch TRL yestrday cuz BECK was
 on it worldpremiering his new video "Sexxlaws" and
 while CAAAHson was interviewing BECK, they played "Run
 On" in the background! its like i was grooving along
 watching BECK and then im like hey this sounds like
 moby! no, it is Moby! yay! as for Sexxlaws, my god is
 that a great video. so damn funny. we should all be
 glad theres someone like BECK out there who can do all
 sorts of weird shit and just totally give the finger
 to what people expect of pop muzik and just be a crazy
 freak. i mean, BECK is one of the few commercially
 successful people today who are just out there. >>


Woo hoo!  ANother Beck addict!  I heard rumors of TRL but that would mean I
would have to actually watch the show so I passed.  I can't stand Carson and
he's from my home town (palm springs). And that would recquire subjecting
myself to BSB and NSYNC and Brittany Spears..  Sides I thought he had a
special or something on Sunday night..  I love unconvential artists like
Beck, Moby, Presidents of the United STates (pity they're gone now), and
anyone else that can make me laugh (JUDE!).  But anyways, I don't really like
this whole Moby on MTV concept.  MAkes me feel less special.  Before, if I
asked someway what they thought of Moby, they would always go who?  But now,
it's oh yeah, that bald jumping dude, he's cool.  (sidebar, Moby said he's
balding... How can anyone tell?)  Just makes me feel less elite.  But oh
well, he deserves the recognition, I'm just being silly.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) runon/BECK
Date: 04 Nov 1999 13:13:16 EST

Also on the whole MTV/Beck thing I find it kinda ironic because I recently
downloaded a Beck mp3 of MTV Makes Me Want to Smoke Crack, which is by far
the most hilarious song ever.  I would never call Beck a sellout, but wierd
how's he's now doing MTV appearances.  But I digress so I will stop.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) BRAINSTORM
Date: 04 Nov 1999 13:42:43 EST

So, here I am, just looking through the used techno section at a local
book/music store, when what should I find?!?!?!?! But the "Brainstorm" 12"
for $1.....ONE DOLLAR?!?!?!?!?!So I decided to check the damage.....barely a
scratch on it. YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I grabbed 5 quarters from my pocket
(tax is included) and ran for the register. If only everybody could find
great things like this eveyday, life would be much better...

dj tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Music Express
Date: 04 Nov 1999 13:58:53 EST

Well, I just checked my order on German Music Express, and I've been
confirmed for my 2 voodoo child requests (Dog Heaven & Higher) and on order
for Underwater.  I can hope, hope, hope, that I get it...... but 2 out of 3
ain't bad.



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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) runon/BECK
Date: 04 Nov 1999 12:31:55 PST

I got the same mp3 from Audiofind.  I love that song.  But to tell you the
truth Beck's kind of like Dylan with more pop and less socialrelevance.


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) runon/BECK
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:13:16 EST
>
>Also on the whole MTV/Beck thing I find it kinda ironic because I recently
>downloaded a Beck mp3 of MTV Makes Me Want to Smoke Crack, which is by far
>the most hilarious song ever.  I would never call Beck a sellout, but wierd
>how's he's now doing MTV appearances.  But I digress so I will stop.
>

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From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) BRAINSTORM/MINDSTORM
Date: 04 Nov 1999 12:47:38 PST

That reminds me of how I found MINDSTORM-Rock The House/Help Me To Believe
German CD single. I was just going through some used CD's and stumbled
across it. It said "Bargain $3.99". I said, "Mine!!!".

Robert


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) BRAINSTORM
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:42:43 EST
>
>So, here I am, just looking through the used techno section at a local
>book/music store, when what should I find?!?!?!?! But the "Brainstorm" 12"
>for $1.....ONE DOLLAR?!?!?!?!?!So I decided to check the damage.....barely
>a
>scratch on it. YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I grabbed 5 quarters from my pocket
>(tax is included) and ran for the register. If only everybody could find
>great things like this eveyday, life would be much better...
>
>dj tripp
>

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) BRAINSTORM
Date: 04 Nov 1999 21:51:29 +0100

>So, here I am, just looking through the used techno section at a local
>book/music store, when what should I find?!?!?!?! But the "Brainstorm" 12"
>for $1.....ONE DOLLAR?!?!?!?!?!So I decided to check the damage.....barely
a
>scratch on it. YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I grabbed 5 quarters from my pocket
>(tax is included) and ran for the register.

You lucky bastard! :) I had to spend more than $20 for this one!
I wish there was a used vinyl store around where I live... there only
is a 2nd hand CD store with only very common, scratched CDs...

>If only everybody could find
>great things like this eveyday, life would be much better...

Well, that is not true!  If every Moby release was very common
there wouldn't be anything fun about collecting, and you wouldn't
be so happy right now, right?

"help me to believe!"

Bart





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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Magizne spotting....
Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:44:13 -0700

> >I saw Moby Beautiful face Gracing the cover of....Well....I forgot the
> >name of the mag... But there he was! I didnt get to buy the treasure....
> >Poorness.... Anyways...When I see the Magizne's name I'll tell!

It was probably paper.  My boyfriend bought me a copy last night because I'm
sick. :-)  How sweet!  Yeah, I haven't read it yet but the cover photo is hot!!!
I figured it was graphically manipulated and it was but dear MOBY still looks all
the hottie!  The rest of the pics are wonderful too.  They say that he was
featured in the mag in '93 (I think) talking about techno.

--kimby




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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) play sighting on TV
Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:55:21 -0700

>
> >this show called roswell on the WB, the main character is in this girls room
> >and looking through her cds. he picks up a copy of play and says "good cd".
> >you could only see the back of the cd, but still how bizzarre?

It makes me think of the earlier '90s when Ten came out (pearl jam) and the
chick from Family Matters (of all shows) was like "I just can't get Ten out of
my cd player!" and the show Phenom had an entire episode about trying to get to
the Pearl Jam concert!  It was like that for like a year or two.  I kinda wish
it would pass.  I mean, I wouldn't want to begrudge the ol Mob-ster his
publicity but it freaks me out that all these trendy shows w/ these kids who
either think they're important pop stars only to have no one care five minutes
later or the kids who jump on every band wagon.  It feels weird to hear and see
something so special to us being paraded around like a pair of Tommy Jeans or
some kind of celebrity hair 'do and then it becomes old news.  It's sad,
something so personal and meaningful being discarded along w/ last falls
fashions.

Ok, but I'm not bitter and it's cool and all.  *sigh*  Please don't kill me. :-)

--kimby




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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's fasination w/ telling ppl that Scott is from...
Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:58:55 -0700

> >yeah...weird...
> >in Madison he said the drummer was from Madison any other cities the drummer
> >has been from ???
> >hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Now that you mention it, I was thinking that MOBY said that Scott was from PV or
Scottsdale here in AZ.  Funny!  Wonder what that's all about.  :-)

Maybe Scott is into past lives and he's had a lot of past lives. :-)

--kimby




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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 04 Nov 1999 15:05:19 -0700

> >New sex organs desiged by plastic surgeons.  ( I don't know how to take this
> >one,is he unsatisfied with what he has or is it he wants an entirely new
> >concept.  Guys, give me a male perspective on this one cuz I have no clue. )

I personally would be down for that.  I mean, if gender could be something that
you define on your own which I think is perfectly fair.  To be able to define
male/female yourself.  Think of all the gender dysphoric persons, being able to
live comfortably in the gender they feel that they are!  I'm all in a tizzy
now!  How wonderful it would be to change the way the world views you in terms
of gender and no longer judge you on what you wear in your pants and what that
makes you but to have to judge you on the content of your mind!  Ahhh!  I would
so buy a penis.  I could live out my dreams of being a drag queen!  I odn't want
to be a drag King, oh no.  :-)

So, yes, I agree w/ MOBY!  Bring on the prostetic "scratch and sniff pubic
parts"!  And while your at it, make prostetic foreheads for all! Tee hee hee!

--kimby




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 04 Nov 1999 19:09:40 EST

In a message dated 11/04/1999 2:05:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  make prostetic foreheads for all! >>

Prostetic foreheads?  Do we want to be those weird klingon people from Star
Trek Deep Space Nine or something?  I think we should develop a soul implant
for all of those who don't have one or have lost theirs.  But then again
that's just me.



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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) deepsky
Date: 04 Nov 1999 16:19:24 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, trance former wrote:
> so here's some Moby related news, from my trnace source, Deepsky, wikked
> trance duo from California are going to be remixing Natural Blues, due for
> release in 2000, Deepsky are a duo who are on the rise in the underground
> trance scene, not that cheesy trance shit, and have remixed the likes of
> Jack Dangers and others...so look out, this will be hot!!!

Deepsky is remixing Moby?  That's so sweet!  I saw Deepsky earlier this
year at a party here in Seattle and they were kick ass...so energetic.
They were getting so into one of the guys knocked over part of his drum
kit and it hit me on the arm!  I've still got a very faint scar.  :D
Weird weird.  Anyway they will be playing another party here in Seattle
this month...I'll probably go to it...but steer clear of the drum kits
this time!  :)  Maybe they'll play a bit of what they're working on?!
That would be wicked.

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) remixes
Date: 04 Nov 1999 19:44:15 EST

so here i am...with an ASSLOAD of MOBY remixes that i don't know what to do
with. I really want to try to get some on his singles, but i don't think its
gonna happen.



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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 04 Nov 1999 16:52:29 PST

Well, I'd definitely stay being a guy.  See, the thing is, I can really
relate to bookish girls because they seem to well, think more than most
guys.  I mean, most of the guys I hang around with are like that but girls
seemer to have a higher percentage of thoughtful people than guys.  So my
chances of getting a smart girl are higher than if I were a girl, my chances
of getting a smart guy.  Geddit?
> > >New sex organs desiged by plastic surgeons.  ( I don't know how to take
>this
> > >one,is he unsatisfied with what he has or is it he wants an entirely
>new
> > >concept.  Guys, give me a male perspective on this one cuz I have no
>clue. )
>
>I personally would be down for that.  I mean, if gender could be something
>that
>you define on your own which I think is perfectly fair.  To be able to
>define
>male/female yourself.  Think of all the gender dysphoric persons, being
>able to
>live comfortably in the gender they feel that they are!  I'm all in a tizzy
>now!  How wonderful it would be to change the way the world views you in
>terms
>of gender and no longer judge you on what you wear in your pants and what
>that
>makes you but to have to judge you on the content of your mind!  Ahhh!  I
>would
>so buy a penis.  I could live out my dreams of being a drag queen!  I odn't
>want
>to be a drag King, oh no.  :-)
>
>So, yes, I agree w/ MOBY!  Bring on the prostetic "scratch and sniff pubic
>parts"!  And while your at it, make prostetic foreheads for all! Tee hee
>hee!
>
>--kimby
>
>
>

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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 04 Nov 1999 20:29:00 -0500

You know, has anyone else realized how smart some of the people on this
list are. Not only do they know what they themselves think, but also
whatever EVERYONE else thinks, or even in a couple of cases, what
everyTHING else thinks. We have people saying that obviously there are
more smart girls than smart guys, someone speaking for every vegan in
the world, every smoker in the world, every Christian in the world, and
every Moby fan in the world. We have people talking about how dogs think
and how cows feel. We have people critisizing Moby for living his life.
We have, well that is enough. I didn't realize until recently what an
elite bunch we have here. And people wonder why the old timers on this
list are dropping like flies. It is nice to have all this new young
spirit around here, but seriously. We don't care about Moby's hands or
how you feel about them. Most people didn't give a shit about the
Christianity or Vegan or Selling out issues the first time and now we're
breaking the 100th. I don't want to say lets just talk about Moby's
music, but for real, calm down with the worthless posting. I have pretty
much given up on posting to this list but I cannot unsubscribe simply
cause I need my Moby info. You guys are great, but not THAT great, so
watch what you say before we talk about the same thing for the 101st
time or you make rediculous statements of huge groups - especially
animals. Thanks a lot. Later.
AJ



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From: "Kelly Bone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 04 Nov 1999 18:42:08 PST

 >> And while your at it, make prostetic foreheads for all! <<

Did you know that is a They Might Be Giants allusion?

"...and I'd buy a big prosthetic forehead and wear it on my real head."

-Kelly

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From: "John Robinson Peters" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #17
Date: 04 Nov 1999 22:43:31 -0600

Speaking of Moby in Magazines, I dont know if anyone knew this, but Moby is
also in the November issue of Bikini magazine.    Its nothing special just
thought youd all like to know.






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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby Stickers?
Date: 04 Nov 1999 21:19:35 -0800

Hi I was wonder if anyone knows where I can get Moby stickers to put on my
car?  I know there is one in the Move EP but it seems really cheap.  I
assume that one shrivels and shreds if you put it on your car...

Thanks,
Shaun





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 05 Nov 1999 00:28:40 EST

In a message dated 11/4/99 4:52:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Well, I'd definitely stay being a guy.  See, the thing is, I can really
 relate to bookish girls because they seem to well, think more than most
 guys.  I mean, most of the guys I hang around with are like that but girls
 seemer to have a higher percentage of thoughtful people than guys.  So my
 chances of getting a smart girl are higher than if I were a girl, my chances
 of getting a smart guy.  Geddit? >>

It took me two readings to get that but yeah.  Being a girl, I do get the
impression that guys tend to be less thoughful, but I think a lot of the time
they're acting cuz it's not "cool" to be intellectual, which is why I love
Moby because he's so openly thoughtful.  But you're fooling yourself if you
think a high percentage of girls are bookish.  Duh, didn't you know?  Guys
don't like smart girls (least that's what they tell me).  Geez, get your
facts straight.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Know-it-all newbies like me
Date: 05 Nov 1999 00:43:47 EST

Nice friendly loving atmosphere you've created.  Isn't the whole point of
this is to discuss things?  I didn't know there was a set of rules and/or
guidelines to express myself.  If you don't want to be subjected to it,
ignore the fucking topic (that's what the little subject lines are for)..
Keep that attitude up and all those new will drop like flies because of your
elitist attitude.  Life is random, so why not expect in the postings here?
Lighten up, enjoy some of the humor, and contemplate some of the ideas.  And
your right, there are some really intelligent people on this bored and I've
read some great ideas, and I've read some really funny ideas (the crowd of
vegans led by Moby will forever be implanted in my head with the vegan power
salute and will make me giggle). No posting is worthless.  No thought is
worthless.  And people do care about random things that Moby addresses like
Christianity, vegan, and the sincerity behind the music, which is there.  And
being new, we wouldn't know that its 101st time its being discussed, so just
delete all messages in the already covered topics, because heaven forbid, you
might come across a new persepctive.  Don't care?  Don't read or post.
Enough bitching.  And let those of us who want to discuss the man and ideas
behind the music to ponder and discuss in peace.

In a message dated 11/4/99 5:34:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< You know, has anyone else realized how smart some of the people on this
 list are. Not only do they know what they themselves think, but also
 whatever EVERYONE else thinks, or even in a couple of cases, what
 everyTHING else thinks. We have people saying that obviously there are
 more smart girls than smart guys, someone speaking for every vegan in
 the world, every smoker in the world, every Christian in the world, and
 every Moby fan in the world. We have people talking about how dogs think
 and how cows feel. We have people critisizing Moby for living his life.
 We have, well that is enough. I didn't realize until recently what an
 elite bunch we have here. And people wonder why the old timers on this
 list are dropping like flies. It is nice to have all this new young
 spirit around here, but seriously. We don't care about Moby's hands or
 how you feel about them. Most people didn't give a shit about the
 Christianity or Vegan or Selling out issues the first time and now we're
 breaking the 100th. I don't want to say lets just talk about Moby's
 music, but for real, calm down with the worthless posting. I have pretty
 much given up on posting to this list but I cannot unsubscribe simply
 cause I need my Moby info. You guys are great, but not THAT great, so
 watch what you say before we talk about the same thing for the 101st
 time or you make rediculous statements of huge groups - especially
 animals. Thanks a lot. Later. >>



"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's prostetic...tee hee hee!
Date: 05 Nov 1999 00:44:25 EST

In a message dated 11/4/99 6:43:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Did you know that is a They Might Be Giants allusion?

 "...and I'd buy a big prosthetic forehead and wear it on my real head."
  >>

Nope I missed that.  Big woosh over my head..  Makes sense now.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #17
Date: 05 Nov 1999 00:46:01 EST

In a message dated 11/4/99 8:40:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Speaking of Moby in Magazines, I dont know if anyone knew this, but Moby is
 also in the November issue of Bikini magazine. Its nothing special just
 thought youd all like to know. >>

Hehe, images of Moby in a pink bikini with a bow entered my head. Damn, now I
can't stop laughing.  Damn these images in my head.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Track Listing Shenanigans
Date: 05 Nov 1999 09:15:41 -0000

Hi Folks,

Maybe some of you catalogue librarians can help me out with this one - it's
a pleasant little mystery to start the day off with, anyhow 8-)

Yesterday, HMV Direct sent me a copy of 'Moby' (Pinnacle PLCD 014 if memory
serves). The catalogue number on the CD was the same as on the box, but the
track listing didn't tie up. The tracks I recognised on the CD were Next Is
The E (I Feel It), Ah Ah, Thousand, and Go. These were all on the listing,
but in the wrong order. Also, there were two versions of Go, one a pretty
similar mix to that on I Like To Score, but with an extended piano break
towards the end. The other was a more blissed out type affair, with various
muttering over a stripped down mix. There was also only one Go listed on the
CD box.

Both box and CD had 12 tracks.

Anyone got any ideas?

Much Love,

Ian

8-)



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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Track Listing Shenanigans
Date: 05 Nov 1999 05:40:09 -0800 (PST)

--- Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> Maybe some of you catalogue librarians can help
> me out with this one - it's a pleasant little
> mystery to start the day off with, anyhow 8-)

It's The Story So Far, I believe.  For some
reason, my copy of it came in a s/t disk as well,
but the tracks didn't mesh either.  Go figure.
My guess is it didn't have shrink wrap around it either?

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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) New grabs...
Date: 05 Nov 1999 05:43:17 -0800 (PST)

Hey all!

"New" Moby grabs...

Everytime You Touch Me Remixes UK CD2
- I absolutely loooooooooove the Pure Joy Mix,
really makes me want to do something in a world
of apathy.  I had it on my DJ Mix Album, except
my pal lost that CD.  Now it's back in my loving
hands... ahhhhhhhhh!

Into the Blue UK CD1 (The A Version)
- The Junior Vasquez tracks are all right.  My
Moby collection just didn't seem right without
this in it. :)

Other stuff coming...
All That I Need Is To Be Loved
James Bond Promo + Bio


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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Know-it-all newbies like me
Date: 05 Nov 1999 07:31:08 -0600

"If you don't want to be subjected to it,
ignore the fucking topic (that's what the little subject lines are for).."

This would work if a large percentage of people bothered to actually change the
subject line.  Lately, however, we've gone through several subjects all under the
same topic line.  If you ignore one topic line its possible you'll miss something
thats interesting..... unlikely... but possible
also, not many people bother to warn when its off topic.  I remember about a year
ago we agreed to put "*******"  or "OFF-TOPIC" in the subject line when
discussing something not directly moby related.  I found this to be very helpful
and tried to do it myself.  Maybe I'm the only one that thought it was
worthwhile... maybe not....

-----rob




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From: Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Track Listing Shenanigans
Date: 05 Nov 1999 14:09:59 -0000

Cheers for that Mr. P :-)

No shrink wrap as it happens. What's an s/t disk?

Ian


np: Secret Archives of the Vatican - Reformation

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 05 November 1999 13:40


--- Greening Ian <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> Maybe some of you catalogue librarians can help
> me out with this one - it's a pleasant little
> mystery to start the day off with, anyhow 8-)

It's The Story So Far, I believe.  For some
reason, my copy of it came in a s/t disk as well,
but the tracks didn't mesh either.  Go figure.
My guess is it didn't have shrink wrap around it either?

=====
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) OFFTOPIC -  Change the subject line thread
Date: 05 Nov 1999 09:35:35 EST


 I agree with Rob. Please change the subject line to accurately reflect what
you are talking about.

Blake



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) My favorite Moby CDs (***warning: on-topic)
Date: 05 Nov 1999 07:28:23 PST


These are some of my favorite Moby CDs, and why:

Into The Blue remixes
The Simple & Spiritual mixes take me to another place. When I introduce
somebody to Moby, I use these. The other mixes are entertaining and
well-rounded, but those two especially are among Moby's very best. They
transcend. What I don't know, but that's the word that fits. They give me
butterflies in my heart.

Voodoo Child - The End Of Everything
Serene, beautiful, simple melodies and soft textures. Sublime.

Voodoo Child - Demons/Horses
Not the same Voodoo Child as End Of Everything. At all. Quite the opposite,
really, with the neverending songs and the dark, relentless pounding.
Sinister and satisfying, especially after night falls.

Move EP
Promoted me from casual Moby fan to hardcore Moby fan. I asked mobility what
I should buy next, and Move was the popular choice. That was in March or
April '98. I'm not going to describe it, but if you don't have it, go get it
NOW.

Revolver #2 (the orange one)
The Rollo & Sister Bliss mix of Revolver opened my ear. (a roommate had been
shoving Pigface, Meat Beat Manifesto, Skinny Puppy, Sister Machine Gun,
etc., down my throat, so I steadfasty disliked whatever he listened to
before he even put it on)I had intended to buy this CD as soon as I saw it
so that I'd have it myself, but I ended seeing s/t for my first Moby
purchase instead. (that's self-titled, US counterpart to Story So Far, for
the person who asked) Every One Of My Problems, also on Revolver #2, is
intense! I think part of that song is in a b-side on one of the UK Play
singles. I don't have whichever one that is.

Ten City - Only Time Will Tell 12"
The Moby mixes, OBGYN & MOBGYN, are classic, old school rave stompers.
Highly recommended if you can take the time to locate them. "You've got to
give me LLLLLOOOOOOVVVVVEEEEE!" These and the Heads mixes are my favorite
Moby remixes.

The Heads - Damage I've Done
The two Moby remixes are unusual and strike me as slightly experimental.
Soothing like Voodoo Child, but in a more achy, melancholy way. I prefer
these somber numbers over a couple of the sleepy ones on Play.

I could go on, but I'm interested to hear what others like best, and why. If
you haven't already, share how you discovered Moby and his music. It's far
more interesting to _everybody_ on the list than soy vs. dairy calcium.

:)

-Steve
an AJ sympathizer
np: Wilco "Pieholden Suite"

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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Track Listing Shenanigans
Date: 05 Nov 1999 08:17:07 -0800 (PST)

--- Greening Ian wrote:
> No shrink wrap as it happens. What's an s/t
> disk?

S/T means self-titled.  The Story So Far, what we
both got, came in the Self-Titled case.  Not a
bad disc, anyway. :)

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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby Favorites
Date: 05 Nov 1999 08:47:45 -0800 (PST)

--- Steve Giles <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I could go on, but I'm interested to hear
> what others like best, and why. If you
> haven't already, share how you discovered
> Moby and his music.

Well, since it's Friday, what the hell!

::ahem::  Me me me!  Right.

Moby...

Go (from s/t) - Yeah, *go* figure. :)  I really
had a problem with this song when someone said
the person saying "yeaaaaaaaa" sounded like a
goat, then all I could think of is a stage full
of goats bleating during the song.  Thankfully I
saw it live and got my groove back.

Have You Seen My Baby (mix from Rare) - The
echoing of the song and the overall "evil"
::pinky to corner of mouth:: tone of the song is
great.  I always get creeped out by music that
does that.

Ah Ah - Because I saw it live, three times now,
and each time it gets better.

Ambient...

Heaven - This song is pleasantly repetative,
giving me a lulling sense of life when I need to
just chill out in my own way.  Most people use
smooth jazz, I use trance.  Go figure.

Everything is Wrong...

Move - A great "choon".  Can't get enough of it.
Go listen to it if you haven't.  You should all
be ashamed of yourselves for not listening to it,
in fact. :)

Hymn (This is My Dream) - So much better than the
album version.  The album version is pleasant,
the single version is downright magical.

Feeling So Real (Westbam Remix) - More trance for
that ass. :)  The not-stop pounding beat combined
with that catchy melody make this an all-time
favorite.

Everytime You Touch Me (Pure Joy Mix) - Back in
my collection, and very happy about it.

Anthem - I wished there would have been singles
for this one.  Grrrrrrreat "choon".

Animal Rights...

That's When I Reach For My Revolver - Yeah, it's
a cover, but it's a darn good one.  Something I
can sing along with.

Living - This song is the second best song he's
done, in my honest opinion, only because I like
guitar.

Little Idiot - All of it.  Favorite Album.  No
real reason.

I Like to Score...

Novio - I wish this was longer, or a whole album
done with this kind of theme.

James Bond Theme - Shaken, not stirred.

Oil 1 - Faster.  Yeah!  Hard, Baby, Hard!!!

And from Play...

Honey - By itself, no fancy mixing allowed!  I'm
biased, because it was the first new Moby stuff I
had heard in over two years.  Very happy!

Run On - By itself, again.  The message is lost
on me, mind you, but it's still a great song!

Bodyrock (Rae & Christian) - The flutes are
great.  They make me want to just melt into my
chair at work for some unknown reason.  (As a
side note, I'm also partial to 3 Kilos by
Prodigy)

WDMHFSB? (ATB Remix) - Uplifting, in true Moby
style.  I just like being brought to a new state
of awareness when listening to a song.  Oh yeah,
more trance for that ass, too. :)

Down Slow (Full Version) - The album version
doesn't do it justice.  The full version allows a
mood to be created, and let go.

Everloving - The best song he's done, to date.
The humming, the melody, the light electronic
background and buildup, and the guitar.  I need
nothing more from Moby... besides the next
"greatest thing he's ever done" to come out. :)

Bored yet?  Hell, I could go on all day! :)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Track Listing Shenanigans
Date: 05 Nov 1999 12:26:39 EST

Hi Ian !
I'm glad i'm not the only one to have the same misprint. You have in fact a
"mixture"of  Moby and The Story So Far, album looking like Moby but not being
it.
Front Cover and music: Story So Far
Back Cover and writing on Cd: Moby

See track listings of Story So Far on moby.org

This isn't a collector and is surely due to those guys of Pinnacle that didn'
arrive to sell Story So Far so put it under Moby.
Sorry for that. Try if you can to explain this HMV direct in order to get
smth but it depends of the shop (Personnally, they gave me the money back and
I kept the CD !) :)
S/T stands for Self Titled BTW.

Matthieu

n.p: Moby - Run On (plastic Angel New mix) (I prefer the Original but it was
there a short time ago !)



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From: "T.R.Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
Date: 05 Nov 1999 17:36:21 +0000


I MISSED MOBY'S PERFOMANCE ON G-SPOT LAST NIGHT. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Nude
Date: 05 Nov 1999 09:43:43 PST


http://www.nudeasthenews.com

This music site has a review of Play, and comments of Moby's Greyhound remix
for Jon Spencer. See "M" & "J" in the reviews section. They also have a
brief live review in the features section. Look for the Coachella Festival
feature.

-Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) alright kids, enuf already...
Date: 05 Nov 1999 12:47:23 EST

In a message dated 10/28/99 11:25:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< ..can somebody send me more info. on the John Lydon remix, The OMD remix,
 And The Psychotica? remix, song, label, date, track listing... >>

He didn't ever do a remix of a song by Psychotica, he just did the mixing for
the album version of their song Cybernation.

-Scott



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From: Paul McIntyre <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) MOBY @ Tribal Gathering '95
Date: 05 Nov 1999 09:51:24 -0800 (PST)

I'm researching Moby's appearance at 1995's Tribal
Gathering in the UK as part of a college assignment.

Any information will be gratefully received,
especially exact date, location, opinions, even atrack
list if possible.
Nothing is too trivial - thanks for your help,
Paul.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) My favorite Moby CDs (***warning: on-topic)
Date: 05 Nov 1999 13:10:11 EST

My favorite Moby CD's ? All of the ones I have ! Sincerly it's hard to make a
choice but let's see...
Well, I think that those are sticking out of the "mass" ' (and are those that
I play the more often)

Play:
Each track except 7 could be a single (I try to imagine covers for those that
won't be like Rushing, Inside, My weakness ...) Very dense, it's not a 3-4
singles and rubbish to make it a Cd, but an overall excellent CD with plenty
of moods, music styles ...

Honey/ Run On:
For the 2 excellent Sharam Jey's mixes of Honey and Run On. I'm getting
addicted to them.

WDMHFSB remixes:
(or if it exist The Mushroom edition of WDMHFSB that could include Flying
Foxes with the remixes). ATB and Ferry Corsten are badly good. They begin to
get known around since I "oblige" each DJ at each party that I attend to pass
the Vinyl (that I previously bring with me). But last time, the guy already
had it.

Voodoo Child / The End of Everything:
Because it's different, repetitive but not enough to get bored. Animal sight
and Great lake are tracks that make me escape from my urban reality. Nature
at its best.

Everything is Wrong:
Like Play a very dense album where original tracks are often as good (if not
better) than the remixes. Like also the end part, less dance and more slow
paced things like When It's cold ..., First Cool Hive, Into The Blue ...

Hymn single (Part 1):
3 great mixes of my favorite track of EIW (especially the Laurent Garnier's
Wake Up mix : don't miss it)

Early Underground
More electronic than the rest of his CDs, EU, despite all those years,
doesn't get old. I think that I'll continue to enjoy for al ong time Party
Time and its pianos, Move the Colors, Barracuda ...

Rare
Because of the Voodoo Child and Drug fits the face mixes that leave by the
side annoying samples (especially for DFTF, the original version is so
stresing ...) and for Time's Up (Deep Mix) because it's nice and will be,
unless a miracle, my only mix of Time's Up. I enjoy also the 14 versions of
Go mixed but i don't listen to it quite often (<50 minutes of Go is too much
at once.)

I like very much also Move, Help Me to Believe, Electricity, Myopia ... but
don't really like the albums (Move EP, Moby, Ambient) as those above.

Just ordered the LCDStumm130 at Music Express along with the CDMute200 for
the fun of it (knowing that I'll soon receive a mail saying "Sorry but these
items are unavailable now but we keep  them on the list in case they become
available". (Couldn't they stop saying bulls*** at once ! )

Enjoy this weekend ( Saturday: The late Moby show from Lille ! Yipee.)

Matthieu

n.p: Underworld - Cups




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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Know-it-all newbies like me
Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:00:36 -0800 (PST)


this is infact a moby mailing list...so we could
discuss moby, as a person, and his ideas, not just his
music..because he's a very interesting person to
discuss and he gets us all thinking about things that
on any given day probably wouldn't think about..so if
you don't want to read it, or contribute that's
ok..but i think we are free to keep on discussing moby
from any angle, not just his music..

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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #17
Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:03:25 -0800 (PST)


thank you very much..now i have a mental picture of
him in a pink bikini..
--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/4/99 8:40:50 PM Pacific
> Standard Time, [e-mail]
> writes:
>
> << Speaking of Moby in Magazines, I dont know if
> anyone knew this, but Moby is
>  also in the November issue of Bikini magazine. Its
> nothing special just
>  thought youd all like to know. >>
>
> Hehe, images of Moby in a pink bikini with a bow
> entered my head. Damn, now I
> can't stop laughing.  Damn these images in my head.
>
>
> "You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
> Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) (OFFTOPIC) Bikini <~ See I was good
Date: 05 Nov 1999 13:57:29 EST

In a message dated 11/05/1999 10:56:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< thank you very much..now i have a mental picture of
 him in a pink bikini.. >>

Hehehe, sorrys.



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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) porcelian
Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:14:53 -0800 (PST)



can anybody here tell me the lyrics to porcelian..or
at least take a rough guestimate at them..please.

megs

"no one expects the butterfly"

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) pink bikini
Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:06:04 PST


Hey, you asked for it...

http://www.moby.org/gfx/whatlove.gif

>From: megan check <[e-mail]>
>thank you very much..now i have a mental picture of
>him in a pink bikini..
>--- [e-mail] wrote:
> > Hehe, images of Moby in a pink bikini with a bow
> > entered my head. Damn, now I
> > can't stop laughing.  Damn these images in my head.

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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) porcelian
Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:05:25 -0800 (PST)



can anybody here tell me the lyrics to porcelian..or
at least take a rough guestimate at them..please.

megs

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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Favorites
Date: 05 Nov 1999 11:13:25 -0800 (PST)



well unfortunally i have just recently learned about
moby and ever since i heard his music i love it..i
only have the animal rights cd...i tried convincing my
mom to get me the rest of them..or it least 2
more..but mom said i had to wait for christmas..i'm
going out of my mind..i can't wait for christmas..

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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #17
Date: 05 Nov 1999 12:18:46 -0700

> >Speaking of Moby in Magazines, I dont know if anyone knew this, but Moby is
> >also in the November issue of Bikini magazine.  Its nothing special just
> >thought youd all like to know.

What is Bikini Magazine?  Is it about bikini's?  Did he model?  Ooh!  But
seriously, what kind of magazine is that?  I might have to look for it at
Barnes and Noble.

--kimby




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From: barracuda <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby&raves
Date: 05 Nov 1999 13:55:21 -0600

Quick question for you all.  Anyone seen moby at a rave?  Just curious.
If you have... what'd you think?

Thanks.




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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) porcelian
Date: 05 Nov 1999 12:01:37 -0800 (PST)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, megan check wrote:
>
> can anybody here tell me the lyrics to porcelian..or
> at least take a rough guestimate at them..please.

hi.  how about you post what you *think* the lyrics are?  :)

i always like to read other fans interpretations of songs...

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html




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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby&raves
Date: 05 Nov 1999 13:05:03 -0700

> >Quick question for you all.  Anyone seen moby at a rave?  Just curious.
> >If you have... what'd you think?

Yeah the first time I saw him.  I guess you could say it was a rave, it was
in a warehouse.  He was his energetic self.  He put on a wonderful show.  I
wouldn't say it was much different from a club show.  But always worth
seeing.

--kimby




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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) My favorite Moby CDs
Date: 05 Nov 1999 21:49:41 +0100

I'm going to name my favourite Moby songs/remixes (not the CDs)
hope you don't mind...

In chronological order:

Moby - Mobility
100% pure genuine Moby

-Moby - Go (Night Time Mix)
Virtually the same as the Soundtrack Mix but a bit longer, a very rare
mix (except for Go "the collected mixes" CD) Listen to this one while
sitting in a park with your girl/boy friend on a warm summer night...

- Barracuda - Party Time
IMO the ultimate party song of the early '90s!

- Moby - Heaven
The song title says it all!

- Moby - Move (you make me feel so good)
I'm talking about the full 6:24 version here.
It has sooo much more power than the radio edit, it has
some additional vocal samples and it goes on forever!
Makes me wanna dance all night long, songs like these
make me so glad that I'm alive!!!!!

- Moby - Move (Electro Mix)
I don't know..... this mix has always been special to me from
the first time I heard it on EIW mixed/remixed, but I have
absolutely no idea why.

- Moby - Hymn (European Mix)
No, not the "European Edit" on the regular Hymn CD, but the
version on the 12" and the German remix CD. 7:02 minutes
of pure ecstasy!

- Moby - First Cool Hive
Alone in my room I cry in silence...

- Anthem (Cinematic Version)
Short (2:24), powerful and haunting.

- Voodoo Child - Patient Love
Whenever I'm upset about something this song always
brings me down to earth again.

- Moby - Now I Let It Go
This may sound weird, but this is my favourite song on AR.

- Moby - Micronesia (b-side on the UK Honey single)
More night time music, I just love those haunting low strings.

- Moby - Spirit (b-side on Run On single)
Heavenly chords, and I love the way the song speeds up at
the end.......soooo much energy!

- Moby - Sunday (b-side on Run On Extended single)
divine pianos and vocal sample!

- Moby - Run On (the Plastic Angel mixes)
I love the way that Plastic Angel provides a whole new view on
this track, they should do more remixes for Moby.

- Moby - Everloving
simple & perfect

Bart (<>,,<>)
>>another AJ sympathizer<<
np: Maxx - Get-A-Way (Club Mix)





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby&raves
Date: 05 Nov 1999 15:52:58 EST

I have seen him at a rave and he was awesome like alwayz



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) pink bikini (off topic)
Date: 05 Nov 1999 15:55:50 EST

In a message dated 11/05/1999 11:06:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Hey, you asked for it...

 http://www.moby.org/gfx/whatlove.gif >>

That's kinda of how i pictured it, cept he was wearing a push up ~ some one
has some cleavage insecurities.  And I swear this the last time I comment on
this.



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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) porcelian
Date: 05 Nov 1999 18:41:49 EST

Hey Meg,
   Check out moby.org, they have them there, I think

~Stacey
>
>
>
>can anybody here tell me the lyrics to porcelian..or
>at least take a rough guestimate at them..please.
>
>megs
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby pic & WDMHFSB? video
Date: 05 Nov 1999 20:08:30 EST

hey

i found a picture of our little moby at the coachella festival hanging out
with some fans in the VIP area......
very interesting.  check it out:

out:http://www.addict.com/issues/5.11/html/lofi/Cover_Story/Coachella_Gallery/main04.html

also, whoever wants to see the WDMHFSB? video can download the whole thing in
real player.
go to:
http://www.labels.tm.fr/RealData/moby/video/whydoesmyheartfeelsobad.ram

isn't little idiot just adorable?!?!  i can't watch the video without
shedding a tear.
:)

later,
-tina
"When we understand another person, we understand ourselves better.  And when
we understand ourselves better, we understand the other person better, too."
--Thich Nhat Hanh



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 05 Nov 1999 19:21:47 -0600

Has anyone else listened to WDMHFSB (atb remix) and been reminded of Aqua's
"Barbie Girl"?

--
 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
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 It shows the world that you've got substance and depth" -- PSB





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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) My favorite Moby CDs (***warning: on-topic)
Date: 05 Nov 1999 20:29:16 -0500

Steve and Bart - you guys are awesome. I figured I would have a bunch of
newbies hating me and I hate to sound like an elist whatever cause I
have been on this list longer them, but that is bullshit. IT doesn't
matter how long you have been on the list, wether it was my first week
or 3rd year. I still don't give a shit about drinking Soy Milk on the
Sabbath in your car by yourself on the way to the dog pound to get an
animal to watch over the cows at home. OR whatever. Especially don't
like to hear the people who say it is related to Moby cause if that is
what you want to do I don't think we could find anything that isn't 6
degree of seperation away...
    Hmmm, I love football but I want to talk about the Dolphins / Titans
game on Sunday (the Dolphins WILL win). So, we've got Moby and he played
in Florida the other week and this game is in florida! Wow, only 2
degrees. Moby went to UCONN (for a bit) and he was in the same class as
one of the players on the Dolphins. Wow! Moby lives in New York, the
Jets play in New York, The Dolphins play the Jets at Christmas, I will
be at that game at Christmas in Miami, wow, lets talk about me!
Seriously, this problem will never go away cause new people do come all
the time and don't know what was discussed before, and even ifthey do
they shouldn't care cause they weren't here then. But anyway, one thing
I have noticed is that the people who come in and respond 1 or 2 lines
to every post (instead of being corteous enough to combine the posts)
don't really last that long. Anyway, I gotta go. I don't love you guys
anymore, but you're still great. And besides for Steve and Bart is there
anyone else with more stuff than me? Later.
AJ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) *NMR* From another know-it-all newby
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:43:38 EST

I agree that sometimes sarcasm and insults to people's intelligence won't do
any good (and things can quickly become hostile, too).  And while I do enjoy
some of the crazy even imaginative discussions, I thought I was on this list
mostly to learn about Mr. Moby, his tour dates and common or rare albums and
projects.
Yes, each person's opinion has value, but so does each person's limited
amount of time (or else use that argument on Moby next time he doesn't spend
a whole day listening to you).
I am only a newby (3 months) and I am already tired reading the same 2 lines
on the question of who's going to the Roxy.  Seriously think to reply
privately.
Also I am so tired of people feeling the serious need to answer to everything
with a giggle or the equivalent of "I thought that was cool, too".  I mean
I'm glad that you agree and all, but I sometimes, like others, end up with a
whole mailbox full of things and it gets so frustrating that I erase great
masses of it at once.  I know I am missing out on great links and photos and
news and concert reviews because I know that too much of it is also
unnecessary stuff (I won't post much anymore for this reason - if I want to
go off on something, I'll email a friend).
And you, with any other newbies, will see in a few more months how tiring it
is to go through the whole vegan thing over and over again (among other
topics).  Maybe I am wasting your time right now because this is
like...like...like trying to stop the escalator by pressing against the side
with your butt (yes, I need sleep!) and none of this will end because too
many feel they have to see their words up on a screen and know that hundreds
of others are forced to scan through them, too.
But if you want to read on the past discussions and not be so ignorant about
this, there is such a thing as the mobility archives (moby.org).  Notice how
once upon a time there were fewer than 10 emails a day, and so many of them
had good tidbits!  Wow!
But yes, there are many diverse and intelligent people on this list and once
in a while I will jiggle with joy at the things I read,
Love&salsa - - - malfunctiongirl



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:52:33 EST

I've heard the new Moby remix and I don't think it sounds like Aqua at all.
It is an awesome mix! and so is the rest of the mixes. Have you seen the
video?

Marisa



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby pic & URB
Date: 05 Nov 1999 23:56:27 EST

In a message dated 11/5/99 5:09:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< hey

 i found a picture of our little moby at the coachella festival hanging out
 with some fans in the VIP area......
 very interesting.  check it out:

 out:

http://www.addict.com/issues/5.11/html/lofi/Cover_Story/Coachella_Gallery/main
04.html >>

That was a cool pic, cept Moby kinda looked a little shocked.  Those girls
should not have been wearing those clothes, but I won't get into it.

In other news, the latest issue of URB has 3 pics of Moby playing and a
snippit of a review of his performance.  All posivitives of course, but the
pics weren't very good.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) whoops.
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:29:25 -0800

    okay i been havin problemas with my mail program, and it hasn't been
sending the messages i've been trying to .. send. heh.  so i'm going to
send them again.          and hopefully they aren't too out of context.
anyway, here goes:


Okay. So.  I'm having problems with both my schedule and my email
program.  But
oh well.  So I figure this has been said already, but in case it
hasn't... Moby
is on the cover of Paper Magazine.  There's a nice 3-4 page Moby spread,

there.  Um, you can go to
http://www.papermag.com/magazine/mag_nov99/cover/moby.html and read the
whole
article, but you can't make out with the pictures.  well, i guess you
can, but
they aren't as big.  and they don't have that nice wood fiber texture.

Laura zone!

--
My greatest fear in life is that no-one will remember me after I'm dead.

                                -- some dead guy






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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:31:18 -0800


> What does cigarette smoke have to do with the environment.
> I guess he can't drive a car now also, because it emits carbon
monoxide.
> give the guy a break heh
> Chris

are you kidding?  or serious?  if you're serious, i just thought i'd
point
out that one of moby's big campaigns is to eliminate combustion engines
as a
means of transportation.. that, and a grip of articles/interviews talk
about
how he rides his bike everywhere.  ya, baby.

laura

--
"Captain's log: A bunch of our ship fell off, and nobody likes me."




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby gets trashed
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:32:24 -0800


> If you knew anything about Moby...he doesn't pin himself as anything
or try
> to fit into any stereotype..he makes his own rules...it's not like he
is a
> chronic smoker..I smoke a cig occasionly..big deal.

not to resurrect an argument that seems to be dead already, but i have
some wood
to add to the fire ;)  In the alt.rave thread that someone mentioned
before,
moby said "stop smoking" at the end of one of his posts.  this and all
the
things he's said about how smoking is bad make me think that he doesn't
smoke.
just because someone is his own person doesn't mean that he has to smoke
just to
prove he doesn't fit into any stereotype.   it doesn't seem like an
image thing
with him, but something he truly believes in.  i would be extremely
disappointed
if anyone i know or look up to had a cigarette "occasionally," just for
fun,
when it seems that they are so adamantly opposed to them the rest of the
time.
maybe he would feel the same way about himself?  just something to think
about,
i reckon.

laura

--
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I
only
know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that
differentiate me from a doormat. - Rebecca West, 1913




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:smoking
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:33:15 -0800

>  Maybe because i equate drug
> use with stupidity and not so with smoking so i expect more of
smokers.

funny that you think that, considering that smoking kills you for no
payoff,
but drugs kill you for a few hours of  REEAAALLY COOL SHIT. heh makes
you
wonder exactly who's smarter :)

laura

--
It's only premarital sex if you're going to get married.






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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) smoking
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:34:05 -0800

> Drinking is not extreme, I don't think.  Down a shot down and then
doesn't
> make you a lesser person. Drugs are bad and that's different.

drugs are bad?  why?  why are they different?  aspirin is a drug.  why
isn't
aspirin bad?  it's all about perception, and what you've been led to
believe.  Why
is it okay for people to die in car wrecks and of alcohol poisoning from
alcohol,
but it's not okay for someone to OD on heroin?  Do you think it's
because there's
no heroin lobby?  What's the big difference?  "Drugs are bad" is such an
automatic
response; people don't even question it.  Of course drugs are bad.  Why?
Because
they are!

> What's wrong with milk products beyond the threat of
> lactose intolerance. It doesn't kill or hurt the cow, it actually
makes them
> feel better.

i think they'd probably feel a lot better if left in their natural
environment
(rather than a crate) with their own babies to relieve them of their
milk. but
hey. what do i know.  i'm not a cow.

laura

--
We occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of us pick ourselves up
and hurry
on as if nothing happened.




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:34:57 -0800

i bow to the norse goddess!

laura

> .. i'm not attempting to start another vegan argument,
> but here are my thoughts.. in the wild, as an adult
> human, i would no longer be drinking milk from my
> mother's breasts. i have friends who were breast fed
> until they were three; if you don't stop breast
> feeding from the animal will keep producing milk for a
> long time. if the animal stops being milked it will
> stop producing milk, so we are not really helping the
> cows, just prolonging their discomfort..also the
> amount of cattle we are breeding for this purpose is
> very destructive to the earth; cows produce huge
> amounts of methene which is one of the main
> contributors to the destruction of the ozone layer...
> not trying to say everyone should be vegan, it just
> makes sense for me...
> *freyja*




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) smoking
Date: 05 Nov 1999 22:35:30 -0800

> WHen did you get the idea that cows live in tiny crates without
sunlight...
> I lived in tx for 18 years.  Cows graze acres of land and eat large
amounts
> of food..they do not have a hard harsh life.  They sleep, walk around,
sleep
> some more, eat, and occasionly get milked.

that's what you call a free-range farm.  you go to the store, you walk
to the
health food aisle, and you pay 5 times as much for that milk because it
takes so
much more money to treat cows that way.  Do you really think that
factory farms
are going to advertise the way they mistreat their animals?  No?  Well
that's
why you've never seen cows being treated so badly.  They are locked up,
indoors,
their entire lives, kept in crates where they can't turn around or lay
down
properly, where their limbs grow misshapen.  Don't believe me?  Go to
http://www.peta-online.org/stinks/rcowp.html  They have pictures.


>  I mean have you really ever been
> on a farm.  It is just kind of logic that cows aren't kept in cages
with no
> light.  They wouldn't even be able to survive that way.

Maybe it is logic.  But fuck logic, they *do* survive that way.  that's
why
they're so yum-yum-yummy in your tummy.  after all that force-feeding
and those
low-light conditions, where they aren't allowed to run any of their
wonderful
tasty fat off, what cow WOULDN'T taste delicious!?

laura

--
http://www.peta-online.org/stinks/pigcaseff.html
http://www.peta-online.org/cmp/cvegmm.html
http://www.peta-online.org/stinks/rfact3.html






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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Laura, get practical
Date: 06 Nov 1999 02:12:51 -0800

 LAura...
I visited your little pro vegan link about cows..
and honestly I didn't see anything really brutal and cruel...the industry
isn't perfect, so some cows get the bad luck..who really fucking
cares...THERE ARE BIGGER PROBLEMS in the world right now, maybe you should
post some url's on actual HUMANS getting stacked in close spaces and being
persecuted for their beliefs and being killed and shot in streets and dying
of hunger, if you would stop worrying about the damn cows, you think those
people who are all emaciated and dying of hunger care if they eat a
vegetable or meat...heh, re-evaluate the situation, and you can see that
your vegetarian views aren't practical at all for the world's population
...and like no shit, showing me pictures of raw meat and cows hanging from
hooks and such and their scraps doesn't gross me out.  Like what did you
think I would expect it to be, somehow they just vaporize the meat off the
cows neatly? :P  Blah.....if  you see some pictures of lions ripping apart
zebras, you'll probably think lions are cruel too...
as for Moby riding a bike everywhere...ok that is not going to
happen..considering I see a big red tour bus at each on of his gigs that
emits more carbon monoxide than a car would.
Some "ideas" that people have aren't practical at the time..instead of
people saying it is all wrong and bad bad bad...maybe they should find
another more practical solution...
heh, it's like...for us not to be totally cruel to animals, we cann only eat
vegetables...for us to stop pollution, we must ride bikes and not cars..and
to stop the rainforest from falling we must stop using paper...
like ok, those are solutions..but they sure as hell aren't practical...
I didn't know why you insisted on brining this back up again, because I
thought opinions were resolved.
NOW...
please get back to Moby's music or something related to it..because this is
as practical really as arguing religion...but I mean if you like the
arguement, then do what you please.  People bitching about the number of
emails they are getting...maybe you should get used to mailing lists..or at
least have this mailing list automatically d/l into it's own mailbox.  The
more posts there are the more active the list is, which I think is a good
thing..anyways..later
Chris






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Laura, get practical (off-topic)
Date: 06 Nov 1999 02:32:58 EST

Thank you Chris.  YEah the environment is in bad shape.  But this is probably
one of the first times in the history of the world that people are becoming
actively aware of the decay that's been caused by centuries, milleniums, what
have you of humans.  It's not going to end.  First humans need to treat each
other with a comon decency before we can worry about the animals. If we can't
respect each other then how the hell can we be expected to respect the rights
of creatures that most people don't consider to be equal to the human race?
I'm kinda surprised that Moby has expanded on the idea on how no one really
makes human contacts anymore. IT's like we're all supposed to live in this
bubble and not interact with strangers (there's that tv  brainwashing again).
 Just think of all the people you meet that you never connect with.  It's
that isolation that makes people snap and I think (way off-topic) the main
cause behind all the recent senseless shootings recently.  I mean even here
which is supposed to be an open forum of ideas in regards to Moby, to really
really express something on ideals tends to get a lot of shit.  cuz people
here are straight out about the music which is cool, but there is more to it
than that, at least for me.  And yes I love Moby, his music and the passion
that he stands for.  There should be more people in the world like him, even
if I don't agree with his ideals.  Fix humans first, than the world, because
a sane unified human race (which will probably never happen) will work better
to save the world.  If all humans become compassionate loving creatures, some
of the problems will automatically fix themselves.  And this is all I have to
say on this matter.  I'm done, I promise, and I allow everyone to scream and
yell and hate me if I ever address this again .  (Sidebar ~ I was good and
put the off-topic)


In a message dated 11/5/99 11:13:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  LAura...
 I visited your little pro vegan link about cows..
 and honestly I didn't see anything really brutal and cruel...the industry
 isn't perfect, so some cows get the bad luck..who really fucking
 cares...THERE ARE BIGGER PROBLEMS in the world right now, maybe you should
 post some url's on actual HUMANS getting stacked in close spaces and being
 persecuted for their beliefs and being killed and shot in streets and dying
 of hunger, if you would stop worrying about the damn cows, you think those
 people who are all emaciated and dying of hunger care if they eat a
 vegetable or meat...heh, re-evaluate the situation, and you can see that
 your vegetarian views aren't practical at all for the world's population
 ...and like no shit, showing me pictures of raw meat and cows hanging from
 hooks and such and their scraps doesn't gross me out.  Like what did you
 think I would expect it to be, somehow they just vaporize the meat off the
 cows neatly? :P  Blah.....if  you see some pictures of lions ripping apart
 zebras, you'll probably think lions are cruel too...
 as for Moby riding a bike everywhere...ok that is not going to
 happen..considering I see a big red tour bus at each on of his gigs that
 emits more carbon monoxide than a car would.
 Some "ideas" that people have aren't practical at the time..instead of
 people saying it is all wrong and bad bad bad...maybe they should find
 another more practical solution...
 heh, it's like...for us not to be totally cruel to animals, we cann only eat
 vegetables...for us to stop pollution, we must ride bikes and not cars..and
 to stop the rainforest from falling we must stop using paper...
 like ok, those are solutions..but they sure as hell aren't practical...
 I didn't know why you insisted on brining this back up again, because I
 thought opinions were resolved.
 NOW...
 please get back to Moby's music or something related to it..because this is
 as practical really as arguing religion...but I mean if you like the
 arguement, then do what you please.  People bitching about the number of
 emails they are getting...maybe you should get used to mailing lists..or at
 least have this mailing list automatically d/l into it's own mailbox.  The
 more posts there are the more active the list is, which I think is a good
 thing..anyways..later
 Chris >>



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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 06:52:39 -0800 (PST)

--- John Turpin <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Has anyone else listened to WDMHFSB (atb remix)
> and been reminded of Aqua's "Barbie Girl"?

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear this. ;)

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From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) converting deluxe play lists
Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:46:32 -0000

how does one go about converting windows deluxe cd player song lists to a
database I have went too all the trouble of downloading track listings and
now cant use them in any other programme ;-(

if anyone knows now to do this or what file is needed let me know




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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 06 Nov 1999 07:10:37 -0800 (PST)

--- Laura <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Drugs are bad and that's different.
>
> drugs are bad?  why?  why are they different?
> aspirin is a drug.  why isn't aspirin bad?

You're equivocating on the meaning of drugs.
When he said drugs, he meant illegal,
mind-altering, addictive narcotics.  You are
speaking of the parmecutical kind, totally
irrelevant.

> Why is it okay for people to die in car
> wrecks and of alcohol poisoning from alcohol,
> but it's not okay for someone to OD on heroin?

I don't think either is okay, not many people
would.

> "Drugs are bad" is such an automatic response;
> people don't even question it.  Of course
> drugs are bad.  Why?  Because they are!

No, most people would say that they cause
addiction, loss of a sense of reality (let's stay
away from the metaphysical sense of reality on
this one), and can kill you a lot quicker than
most consumable or smokeable items (with the
exception of marijuana).

Few people say they are bad "because they are".

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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Drugs, and moby's obsession with "yeah"
Date: 06 Nov 1999 07:38:51 PST

I'm against drugs but am fascinated by drug culture.

"Drugs are bad" is an automatic response.  Obviously drugs are extremely
harmful and life threatening but in school and tv, they bombard you with so
many anti-drug messages.  I pretty much don't trust any agenda television
pushes so hard.  A lot of people are just conditioned to be anti-drugs just
as they are conditioned not to talk about religion sex or politics in
"polite conversation" just as we're conditioned to be closed-minded to
alternative ideas.

Our whole society is geared towards rejecting anything meaningful, and
focusing more on fun so I'm actually surprised there's so much anti drug
stuff out there.  It's brainwashing in a way, which is why I only watch the
Simpsons Monty Python and Saturday Morning Cartoons ;) heeheehee.

Also, it scares me that a lot of people look down on smoking so hard. I
mean, we're bombarded with a voluminous amount of anti-smoking stuff.

I know a lot of people tend to criticize smoking as socially unacceptable,
more repulsive to them than abortion, starvation, etc.  It's sickening to
think that we attack smoking more than abortion.

Also, anyone notice Moby's main word is "yeah".  Think about it, his
breakthrough song's main lyric was "[thud] yeaaahhh [piano]" repeated.
One of his most poignant songs (Memory Gospel) is just a woman singing yeah.
  He uses yeah a lot on play, too.

Or maybe I'm just strange.


> > "Drugs are bad" is such an automatic response;
> > people don't even question it.  Of course
> > drugs are bad.  Why?  Because they are!
>
>No, most people would say that they cause
>addiction, loss of a sense of reality (let's stay
>away from the metaphysical sense of reality on
>this one), and can kill you a lot quicker than
>most consumable or smokeable items (with the
>exception of marijuana).



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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs, and moby's obsession with "yeah"
Date: 06 Nov 1999 08:41:37 -0800 (PST)

--- jj fish <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Also, anyone notice Moby's main word is "yeah".
> Think about it, his breakthrough song's main
> lyric was "[thud] yeaaahhh [piano]" repeated.
> One of his most poignant songs (Memory Gospel)
> is just a woman singing yeah.

My buddy and I shared an office this summer, and
we were listening to a live set of Moby's.  It
was cool for a while, then we noticed he said
things like "Love", "Oh Lord", "No", and "Yeah!"
a lot during the performance.  Live, I can handle
it.  Listening to it live, I must admit I because
slightly amused.  Emotion doesn't travel well
over the fiber optic, at least not as well as
through the air. :)

I still remember giggling in the office listening
to the set.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) *** off topic ~ idealists
Date: 06 Nov 1999 12:31:47 EST

Hi from a vegan that lives on a cattle farm...
Individual choices may be trivial when you look at each one, but then you
start pooling them together and speaking out, letting your opinion be heard,
it does make a difference. And sometimes you have to sacrifice convenience
for the greater good... Give the idealists a break! We mean well...

Also, when Moby was in Cincinnati one member of the group came from
Kentucky... I'm seeing a trend too...

-Sarah



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From: "Jamie Baade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby&raves
Date: 06 Nov 1999 11:39:26 -0600

I saw him at one in 1993 as part of a rave party/free concert in Milwaukee,
WI
show started with 2 djs and then moby played and then one more dj(prodigy
was supposed to be there too, but they cancelled)...anyway
it was awesome he played stuff from the first CD and ended with "thousand"
standing on his keyboard with lights flashing everywhere...now a staple
ending to his concerts...it was the 1st time I had seen him do  it and I was
blown away...then he handed me his drumstick...very cool!
I still have the concert ticket stub!
Jamie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:55 PM


> Quick question for you all.  Anyone seen moby at a rave?  Just curious.
> If you have... what'd you think?
>
> Thanks.
>
>






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 13:45:43 EST

i heard an ATB song on the radio, and it was real good...it's kind of pop
techno but they have a pretty beautiful touch to their music that makes it
listenable...peace..elie



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From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 21:02:19 +0200

At 13:45 6.11.1999 EST, you wrote:
>i heard an ATB song on the radio, and it was real good...it's kind of pop
>techno but they have a pretty beautiful touch to their music that makes it
>listenable...peace..elie
>
>
That ATB song is awful.. It's sounds so poptechno.. and I don't like any
kind of trance anyway..
         -Samu Heinonen-
         [e-mail]-
 http://www.saunalahti.fi/~samuhei/



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) nude as the news?
Date: 06 Nov 1999 11:08:59 -0800 (PST)

nude as the news? hey thats a Cat Power song. and Cat
Power used to practice in Moby's basement, right? so
somebody named an URL after the song...... and their
reviewing moby n shit... ooh spooky....

Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real
heads! TMBG rule!!!

bye!


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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) poll time!
Date: 06 Nov 1999 11:34:15 -0800 (PST)


first off, Laura, yr quotes are the bomb! i dont even
read the content, just down to the quote! "nobody will
remember me after i'm gone---some dead guy" genius!
thats like a TMBG song! speaking of which, when
(Kimby? sorry i forgot) said about prosthetic
foreheads not knowing it was a TMBG reference, you
also said "while you're at it" which is said in
"Birdhouse In Yr Soul" aaak sorry im just obsessed
with TMBG god this cant be good...

and now, content!

POLL TIME!
ok this is about songs. singles, specifically. which
song would you elect the perfect single? i'll break it
down into sections:

1. Perfect Moby single
2. Perfect non-Moby single (just cuz i wanna mention
TMBG.... d'i mean cuz i'm curious ;)
3. Perfect Moby single that isn't (as in, song from an
album that hasnt been released as a single, including
trax from play that are not yet scheduled to be
released...)
4. same, non-moby

my opinion:

1. eh... mmm... i dont know, why do you force me into
this!?!? ;) ah actually NOT GO (sorry im a little
bored of this song) but i think the perfect Moby
single would be....Run On. for now. sorry, maybe i'll
get back to this later.

2. TMBG "Birdhouse In Your Soul" or "Ana Ng" (Particle
Man wasnt released or promoted as a single, so it dont
count ;)

3. personally i think "South Side" deserves to be a
single. i know, its the most commercial sounding song
on the album, but well it just sounds like a great
single. "Porcelain" would be good too. "Machete" i
don't think so... i mean, its a good song but its a
bit misrepresentative of Play as a whole. i mean, this
song is fast and loud and ROCK, and the others are a
bit slow and graceful. it's a good song, but i usually
skip over it cuz sometimes it just doesnt fit. even
the more upbeat songs on play like "Honey" and "Find
My Baby" and "Bodyrock" are more funky, not aggro.
like, when Blur released "Song 2" and all the kids
bought the album, theres only like 2 songs like that
on the entire cd. you know? but if it does get
released, whatever, that only means more Moby fans,
right?
altho "7" is undoubtedly.....fuck it, why do i keep
saying that? its not funny at all!

4. best non-moby non-single: Sifl & Olly "I Got Laser
Eyes" or "My United States Of Whuteva", the two best
punk rock songs ever written. okay, fine, best punk
rock PARODIES ever written (oh shut up! S&O rule! ;)

 one more: Deepsky, who is remixing Moby, did that
song "Tempest" which AMP has been using as its opening
theme for like 3 and a half years right? 3 and a half
years and we're still at fucking 3 am when nobody can
watch and they consistenly fuck around with the time
schedule, like i missed the Stereolab video last week
and my pal Jon said it was fucking awesome....damn,
how am i gonna see the new 'Lab video? i'm not gonna
see this shit on TRL!!!! at least post yr time changes
on the website!!!!

aw fuk, now they have this live beck show on sunday
which i have to tape, and i only got an hour and a
half left on my video tape. i guess i could buy more
videos..whuteva. bye!

bye!

bye!

bye!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 13:45:43 EST

i heard an ATB song on the radio, and it was real good...it's kind of pop
techno but they have a pretty beautiful touch to their music that makes it
listenable...peace..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) discography
Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:50:56 EST


i'm not sure if anyone mentioned this before, but
i was just at a local record store and came across a 'bodyrock' single that
wasn't in the discography....

here's the info:
bodyrock ep (36:24) [july 1999]
AUS CD, mute/mushroom, MUSH01897.2   [the cover image is the same as the US
single]

1  3:25  bodyrock
2  6:49  sunspot
3  6:32  arp
4  6:27  bodyrock (olav basoski's da hot funk da freak funk remix)
5  7:43  bodyrock (hybrid's bodyshock remix)
6  5:28  bodyrock (rae & christian remix)

also, the catalog number for the US version of 'play' is:
63881-27049-2

later,
-tina



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) YEAH! (warning: long rant)
Date: 06 Nov 1999 12:06:16 -0800 (PST)


its weird, when you play some dance songs to "normal"
people, they sometimes will think like "thats the
entire words to the song? YEAH??!?!" they dont
understand that the power itself, the power of dance
music, is in the MUSIC, the beats, the synths, the
samples, sound itself, not words. you could have some
girl moaning "i love you more than anything
else..."blablablablabla but it wouldnt mean anything
if she was just kind of moaning. you know? its not
WHAT you say but how its expressed. words are very
unnecesary. they can only do harm!

to make this related, in the interview Moby did with
my pals Davo and Annette, he talked about why he
writes essays in the liners instead of merely putting
song lyrics. it doesnt make sense to print the lyrics,
theyre not the main point of the song, theyre just
like...elements. but they dont really matter.
honestly, i've never heard one Moby song i can think
of with any specific interesting lyrics. i mean, the
lyrics arent unique, they're not loaded with
references or weird words, like a TMBG song or a
Presidents USA song, you know? sorry if that sounds
mean, but my point is, THE LYRICS DONT MATTER. its how
the music affects you. some songs like "Everloving"
are so beautiful that words would only kill the
beauty, you know? many Orbital songs are like that
too. just listened to them a lot yesterday
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan does that bring me back, sort of....
ok, maybe not to an oldskool rave, but In Sides was
the first techno cd (double cd actually) that i
bought, when this whole "electron___" thing started.
wow, that was more refreshing than i could ever
imagine! and that just proves my point, their music
doesnt need words to get its point across. and a lot
of their songs have themes as well: "The Girl With The
Sun In Her Head" is about a lost friend, "PETROL" is
about like oil spills and such, "Out There Somewhere?"
and "Are We Here?" aliens, etc. another classic
example of this, tho not as well known is Alec Empire
"SuEcide" which is a beautiful classic
(i-guess-you-could-call-it-)trance song, (NOT digital
hardcore) about ravers killing themselves with drugs,
with absolutely no words.


shit, ive been ramblin on too long.

great, great GREAT mad funny website of Precious Roy
transcripts. if you've never heard of Precious Roy go
here now! if you have go here anyway! Precious Roy
rules!

<http://hometown.aol.com/kingjereme/index.html>

"This is Precious Roy, and I'm locked in a van with a
ferret."
"Buy my petrified meats! SUCKERS!"

i cant stop laughing... not good, im in a library...

bye!

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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:07:13 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Samu Heinonen wrote:
> At 13:45 6.11.1999 EST, you wrote:
> >i heard an ATB song on the radio, and it was real good...it's kind of pop
> >techno but they have a pretty beautiful touch to their music that makes it
> >listenable...peace..elie

> That ATB song is awful.. It's sounds so poptechno.. and I don't like any
> kind of trance anyway..
>          -Samu Heinonen-
god...so why are you on this list? if most moby music isn't "poptechno" i
dunno what is! you must hate the move ep and everything is wrong and
early underground and the EIW remix album, all of his singles and remixes
and all of play is REALLY poppy and mainstream (and damned amazing i must
add) and and and.....i guess you can listen to animal rights all you
want, but i know a lot of punks and the like who would call it a huge
sell out or pop shit compared to "real" punk.
please help me understand??.....
by the way, i love moby's music. please don't take the above comments as
a slam against him or what i think of as his commitment to producing some
of the best music ever.
and i love that atb mix, as well as the ferry corsten mix (and everything
else corsten has done so far!)
[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
                     but i really enjoy thinking."
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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) YEAH! (warning: long rant) [about lyrics]
Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:10:21 -0600 (CST)

i agree!

the talking heads said is best:

words are just a trick to make you listen to the music longer.

...or sonething like that.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/





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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) YEAH! (warning: long rant) [about lyrics]
Date: 06 Nov 1999 14:10:21 -0600 (CST)

i agree!

the talking heads said is best:

words are just a trick to make you listen to the music longer.

...or sonething like that.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/





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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) *****(NMR) AMP playlist/Beck show
Date: 06 Nov 1999 12:29:27 -0800 (PST)

the BECK show airing on MTV is at 11:00 PM Sunday
(tomorrow) and its only a half hour which is bad cuz
what gives? Rage ATM gets a full hour!!! but its good
cuz then i can see all of AMP unless they show it late
like last week.... grrrrr.....

playlist:
11-7-99 (mislabeled 11-6-99...it better not be on
today!)

Air:All I Need (i love this video!)
Alex Gopher:Party People
Air:Le Soleil Est Pre De Moi
Dimitri From not Paris:Un Very Stylish Fille
Luke Slater:All Exhale
Westbam:Beatbox Rocker
Wiseguys:Ooh La La version 2 (damn, i never saw the
first one!)
mu-ziq:The Fear
Tricky:For Real
Plastikman:Skizophrenik

as always, subject to change....

"This is Precious Roy, and i just downloaded pictures
of your mother!"
"Buy my wet tights! SUCKERS!"
<http://hometown.aol.com/kingjereme/index.html>

bye!

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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) why can't i stop?
Date: 06 Nov 1999 12:39:16 -0800 (PST)


uh thats "Why Can't It Stop?"....urrr......

anyway i saw in Billboard that "WCIS?" credited to
Moby on Edel America is number 3 on the sort of
Bubbling Under club chart (its the 5 songs under the
top 50 that havent hit the chart yet that are new) so
i guess clubs are hyping "WCIS?" as the new single!
and its not even rom PLAY! wow! thats a bit
interesting.... is this song getting an official
re-release, as a single, as Moby? are there remixes
out? or is it just people playing it from Hackers 3?
(does that cd have ANYTHING to do with the movie
dammit?)

"This is Precious Roy, and I like the fresh, hot,
donuts!"
"Buy my mufflers! SUCKERS!!!"

bye!

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) discography
Date: 06 Nov 1999 22:49:31 +0100

>i'm not sure if anyone mentioned this before, but
>i was just at a local record store and came across a 'bodyrock' single that
>wasn't in the discography....


Thank you VERY much for the info Tina! :)

>1. Perfect Moby single:
the US Move EP

>2. Perfect non-Moby single:
Air - Le Soleil est PrΦs de Moi

>3. Perfect Moby single that hasn't been released as a single:
Anthem........better late than never!

(<>,,<>)





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's obsession with "yeah" and womyn
Date: 06 Nov 1999 16:52:21 EST

In a message dated 11/6/99 7:40:57 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Also, anyone notice Moby's main word is "yeah".  Think about it, his
 breakthrough song's main lyric was "[thud] yeaaahhh [piano]" repeated.
 One of his most poignant songs (Memory Gospel) is just a woman singing yeah.
   He uses yeah a lot on play, too. >>

I noticed that too.. but it's like one of those words you don't even think
about and has so many different connotations..

what's up with Moby's spelling of woman as womyn?  Is he pro-feminist too?
Which would be up to par for him, but if you take the biblical connotations
of the word eve can from adam, so man is part of every woman, makes sense in
a weird way.  But very cool for him for be considerate of those who fine the
word woman offensive.  (i personally don't but to each their own)

"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) poll time! and Moby props.
Date: 06 Nov 1999 17:02:34 EST

In a message dated 11/6/99 11:35:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< 1. Perfect Moby single
 2. Perfect non-Moby single (just cuz i wanna mention
 TMBG.... d'i mean cuz i'm curious ;)
 3. Perfect Moby single that isn't (as in, song from an
 album that hasnt been released as a single, including
 trax from play that are not yet scheduled to be
 released...)
 4. same, non-moby >>

1.  This is hard, I'd go for Into the Blue.
2.  Another hard on (damn you).  You guys are going to laugh, but currently
I'm going with Fool's Garden's "Lemon Tree"  It is such an obnoxiously
annoying song that you have to love it and its the first thing that popped
into my head.
3. Most definately Porcelian, second choice south side.  I feel bad for all
those people who picked up play for BodyRock and rest of the album was
nothing like it.  If they don't catch on to the beauty, then they become Moby
haters (unless they decide to pick up some dance happy early stuff).  I hate
when I pick up a new artist because of one really cool song and the rest is
nothing like it.  So obnoxious, even though there a few excpetions.
4.  Beck's MTV Makes Me Want to Smoke Crack.  B-side to the loser single.
The most hilarious song... Nirvana melding into lounge lizard tune.  I so
love Mr. Beck.


Question ~ when I was reading BT's Movement in Still Life booklet, he gave
thanxs to Moby.  I know they've done shows together, but is there any other
connection?  And Moby in I think Animal Rights mentioned Scooter.  Does he
mean the english pop-techno band (who are super fun?) or just some guy named
scooter?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 17:07:46 EST

In a message dated 11/6/99 12:07:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  if most moby music isn't "poptechno" i
 dunno what is! you must hate the move ep and everything is wrong and
 early underground and the EIW remix album, all of his singles and remixes
 and all of play is REALLY poppy and mainstream >>

I wouldn't categorize most of Moby's music as pop techno.  Yeah there's
bodyrock and feeling so real and next is the E, but there's a lot of the
emotional beautiful stuff that would never ever ever get radio play because
to make people cry while they're driving to work is not kosher.  I mean I've
never heard when its cold i'd like to die on the radio or even played outside
my cd-player.  And that's the stuff that moves me.  And personally,  i tire
of the poppy songs quickly and usually skip to the more meaningful ones.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Hackers 3
Date: 06 Nov 1999 17:10:32 EST

In a message dated 11/6/99 12:36:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< or is it just people playing it from Hackers 3?
 (does that cd have ANYTHING to do with the movie
 dammit?)
  >>

No.  Neither did Hackers 2.  They just decided to expand on a cool flick that
featured great tunes  (had early prodigy which is the best)  I think it's
just an excuse to put together some cool techno tracks.  I still think
Hackers2 is the best of the series though.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) poll time!
Date: 06 Nov 1999 15:24:32 -0700

>
> >(Kimby? sorry i forgot) said about prosthetic
> >foreheads not knowing it was a TMBG reference, you
> >also said "while you're at it" which is said in
> >"Birdhouse In Yr Soul" aaak sorry im just obsessed
> >with TMBG god this cant be good...

I did know and I love the song "BIYS".  But it depresses me because my
ex used to blast it in the car and we used to sing it all the time.
*sob*  Ah, memories, not always good though.  OK, I'm done now.

--kimby




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From: "Debbie Lengyel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) WDMHFSB Video & Porcelain
Date: 06 Nov 1999 18:25:00 -0500

Does anyone know who animated the WDMHFSB video?

Also, there's this movie called "Playing By Heart" with Sean Connery &
Gillian Anderson. It was released in 1998 which I thought was interesting
because it was before "Play" was released, and there is a club scene where
Porcelain is playing in the background. As the credits rolled it said
Porcelain written by Richard Melville Hall and performed by Moby. I never
realized that he differentiated his name between writing and performing.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 18:27:05 EST

i hear ya..like i said..it was poptechno and it was being played on a very
poptechno radio station...it just caught my ears and there was nothing i
could do aboout it....elie



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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) YEAH! (warning: long rant)
Date: 06 Nov 1999 16:39:58 PST

I've always wanted to have somebody make dance songs with intelligent or
cryptic lyrics, like a Bob Dylan of techno. I enjoyed Machete alot because
it kind of got the feel I was looking for

Out there somewhere--you mean the Orbital song. InSides really kicks.
>about like oil spills and such, "Out There Somewhere?"
>and "Are We Here?" aliens, etc. another classic
>example of this, tho not as well known is Alec Empire
>"SuEcide" which is a beautiful classic
>(i-guess-you-could-call-it-)trance song, (NOT digital
>hardcore) about ravers killing themselves with drugs,
>with absolutely no words.

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From: "jj fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's obsession with "yeah" and womyn
Date: 06 Nov 1999 16:42:47 PST

What the funksoulbrotyher does womyn mean?

most poignant songs (Memory Gospel) is just a woman singing yeah.
>    He uses yeah a lot on play, too. >>
>
>I noticed that too.. but it's like one of those words you don't even think
>about and has so many different connotations..
>
>what's up with Moby's spelling of woman as womyn?  Is he pro-feminist too?
>Which would be up to par for him, but if you take the biblical connotations
>of the word eve can from adam, so man is part of every woman, makes sense
>in
>a weird way.  But very cool for him for be considerate of those who fine
>the
>word woman offensive.  (i personally don't but to each their own)
>
>"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen
>
>Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me
>
>

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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs, and moby's obsession with "yeah"
Date: 06 Nov 1999 17:50:41 -0800 (PST)

MONTY PYTHON..thats not brainwashing..i love
that..watch it all the time..and i turned out
fine..but yes..i totally agree

--- jj fish <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I'm against drugs but am fascinated by drug culture.
>
> "Drugs are bad" is an automatic response.  Obviously
> drugs are extremely
> harmful and life threatening but in school and tv,
> they bombard you with so
> many anti-drug messages.  I pretty much don't trust
> any agenda television
> pushes so hard.  A lot of people are just
> conditioned to be anti-drugs just
> as they are conditioned not to talk about religion
> sex or politics in
> "polite conversation" just as we're conditioned to
> be closed-minded to
> alternative ideas.
>
> Our whole society is geared towards rejecting
> anything meaningful, and
> focusing more on fun so I'm actually surprised
> there's so much anti drug
> stuff out there.  It's brainwashing in a way, which
> is why I only watch the
> Simpsons Monty Python and Saturday Morning Cartoons
> ;) heeheehee.
>
> Also, it scares me that a lot of people look down on
> smoking so hard. I
> mean, we're bombarded with a voluminous amount of
> anti-smoking stuff.
>
> I know a lot of people tend to criticize smoking as
> socially unacceptable,
> more repulsive to them than abortion, starvation,
> etc.  It's sickening to
> think that we attack smoking more than abortion.
>
> Also, anyone notice Moby's main word is "yeah".
> Think about it, his
> breakthrough song's main lyric was "[thud] yeaaahhh
> [piano]" repeated.
> One of his most poignant songs (Memory Gospel) is
> just a woman singing yeah.
>   He uses yeah a lot on play, too.
>
> Or maybe I'm just strange.
>
>
> > > "Drugs are bad" is such an automatic response;
> > > people don't even question it.  Of course
> > > drugs are bad.  Why?  Because they are!
> >
> >No, most people would say that they cause
> >addiction, loss of a sense of reality (let's stay
> >away from the metaphysical sense of reality on
> >this one), and can kill you a lot quicker than
> >most consumable or smokeable items (with the
> >exception of marijuana).
>
>
>
>
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From: "Mike A7" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby pic & WDMHFSB? video
Date: 06 Nov 1999 01:27:24 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
> also, whoever wants to see the WDMHFSB? video can download the whole
thing
> isn't little idiot just adorable?!?!  i can't watch the video without
> shedding a tear.
> :)

I hear you. I watched the video for the first time this week on the
computer and thought it was depressing and sad as hell :) Especially the
part where Little Idiot wants to play and the other people blow him off. I
damn near cried myself. :)

MikeA



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 06 Nov 1999 21:50:20 -0600

>> Has anyone else listened to WDMHFSB (atb remix)
>> and been reminded of Aqua's "Barbie Girl"?
>
>I'm going to pretend I didn't hear this. ;)

Ha! Too late! You won't be able to listen to it again. :)

What about the way the music is out-of-tune with some of the vocals?

--
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       I can't get into it." -- Coolio





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From: "T.R.Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: the poll
Date: 07 Nov 1999 10:46:20 +0000


Hmm, I have to go and write an essay soon.

Best Moby Singele. I'm not entirely sure which Moby songs have been
released on singles, I prefer albums, so Run On extended has grown on
me.

Best non moby single, shit, out of all the singles of all of time, I'll
really have to think about that one.

Best non-single.....Face It, easy!

Best other artist non-single, hmmm, In want to vote for nearly every
Metallica song, but I think I'll go away and think for a while.



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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: the poll
Date: 07 Nov 1999 08:22:28 -0800 (PST)


I'd have to agree with you on your moby single and non
single...but the other artist non single would have to
be live's 'stage'
--- "T.R.Bradley" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Hmm, I have to go and write an essay soon.
>
> Best Moby Singele. I'm not entirely sure which Moby
> songs have been
> released on singles, I prefer albums, so Run On
> extended has grown on
> me.
>
> Best non moby single, shit, out of all the singles
> of all of time, I'll
> really have to think about that one.
>
> Best non-single.....Face It, easy!
>
> Best other artist non-single, hmmm, In want to vote
> for nearly every
> Metallica song, but I think I'll go away and think
> for a while.
>
>


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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Underwelt
Date: 07 Nov 1999 15:13:34 +0000


>I've always wanted to have somebody make dance songs with intelligent or
>cryptic lyrics, like a Bob Dylan of techno.
try Underworld if you want that kind of stuff. Amazing lyrics...

--
Mark Reed



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 07 Nov 1999 14:19:43 EST

In a message dated 11/07/1999 9:03:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> try Underworld if you want that kind of stuff. Amazing lyrics...
>
really...not too sure about that..i mean, half of the time i don't understand
what they are saying, and the other half, i feel like they are always saying
"boy" this, "boy" that...
i would love to know what they are saying so i could make more accurate
judgements..
To make this moby related...I don't think that Moby has the best lyrics in
his music either...the sky is broken is pretty but south side is a bit
twisted..well..later...elie



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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) L12Mute230
Date: 07 Nov 1999 21:08:46 +0100

WHY DOES MY HEART FEEL SO BAD?  (3 nov. 1999)
UK 12", Mute, L12Mute230

   A1  _:__   Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Original Version)
AA1  8:31   Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Subsonic Legacy Remix)

Hmm, nothing special, this ltd 12", perhaps the original version is
different from the one on Play... (remember: the 12" version of the
Subsonic Legacy Remix is 2 minutes longer than the one on the CD)

Any info on that Spanish Porcelain single yet?

Bart




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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 07 Nov 1999 15:16:45 -0800

go to some fan Underworld pages...his lyrics are cool cause they are really
all non linear and don't follow any pattern or have like a definite
theme...it's like random poetry and words to covey this huge message..Dirty
Epic is one of the best electronica songs ever..
"I got phone sex to see me through the emptiness in my 501's, freeze dried
with a new religion"
Lines like that kick ass...but I have some older Underworld from the 80's
when they were on Warner Bros.  that is embarassing stuff :P
but then again Moby has cool lines like "In my dreams I'm dying all the
time"..
depends on what ya like I guess
Chris

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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 11:20 AM


In a message dated 11/07/1999 9:03:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> try Underworld if you want that kind of stuff. Amazing lyrics...
>
really...not too sure about that..i mean, half of the time i don't
understand
what they are saying, and the other half, i feel like they are always saying
"boy" this, "boy" that...
i would love to know what they are saying so i could make more accurate
judgements..
To make this moby related...I don't think that Moby has the best lyrics in
his music either...the sky is broken is pretty but south side is a bit
twisted..well..later...elie




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Details magazine
Date: 07 Nov 1999 16:17:26 EST

there's a full page photo of moby in this month's issue of "details" magazine.
very interesting... you all must see this picture!  he takes a picture of
himself sitting on a toilet w/ his pants down ; )

"i was sitting w/ my pants down on a dirty toilet in the women's room of a
nightclub in salt lake city.  i held the camera above my head and had no idea
if the picture would be awful or nice." -Moby

~animal lib, vegan power



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hackers 3
Date: 07 Nov 1999 17:50:19 EST

<< No.  Neither did Hackers 2.  They just decided to expand on a cool flick
that
 featured great tunes  (had early prodigy which is the best)  I think it's
 just an excuse to put together some cool techno tracks.  I still think
 Hackers2 is the best of the series though. >>

Actually, parts of the Hackers 2 soundtrack were in the movie.  Not every
track of the cd was, but a good chunk of it was.  Sort of like Trainspotting
2, which had some from the movie, some that were considered for inclusion in
the movie but weren't in the end.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) AR promo quest.
Date: 07 Nov 1999 18:26:03 EST

hey

i saw an AR interview promo for like $25, which i find to be very expensive,
but is it really worth getting -- factoring in its rareness and stuff?

later,
-tina



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From: "- hyponoise -" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld lyrics...
Date: 07 Nov 1999 19:33:07 EST

www.dirty.org has lyrics

>really...not too sure about that..i mean, half of the time i don't
>understand
>what they are saying, and the other half, i feel like they are always
>saying
>"boy" this, "boy" that...
>i would love to know what they are saying so i could make more accurate
>judgements..

-jason
n . p . richie hawtin . de9
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Details magazine
Date: 07 Nov 1999 20:10:37 EST

In a message dated 11/07/1999 4:18:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<
 there's a full page photo of moby in this month's issue of "details"
magazine.
 very interesting... you all must see this picture!  he takes a picture of
 himself sitting on a toilet w/ his pants down ; ) >>
Is there an article that goes with the picture?

Robyn



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 07 Nov 1999 22:44:46 EST

In a message dated 11/7/99 12:17:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< go to some fan Underworld pages...his lyrics are cool cause they are really
 all non linear and don't follow any pattern or have like a definite
 theme...it's like random poetry and words to covey this huge message >>

Beck is more random and twisted though, but he's not electronica so it
doesn't count.  The cool thing about Moby's lyrics is that he usually singles
out one single theme or idea and builds around it with the music to complete
a whole theme, making the lyrics not the central focus.  Other people make
the lyrics the central focus and background noise as not as important.  Just
different perspectives on the music.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) poll time!
Date: 07 Nov 1999 20:19:20 -0800 (PST)

--- Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> 1. Perfect Moby single

Bodyrock... mixes w/ b-sides is always a good
combination.

> 2. Perfect non-Moby single

BT w/ Tori Amos - Blue Skies.  Great, great,
great song.

> 3. Perfect Moby single that isn't

Living.  And it could never be a single, because
anything else would be worse, and it would lose
it's quality as a separate track.

> 4. same, non-moby

Orbital - I Don't Know You People.  Great track,
hope they don't single it.

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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) YEAH! (warning: long rant)
Date: 07 Nov 1999 20:34:15 -0800 (PST)

--- Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> words are very unnecesary. they can
> only do harm!

Ahhh... another Depeche Mode fan! :)

> many Orbital songs are like that too.

...and if they have words, they are just another
sound in the song, not overlapping the song, or
masking it.  One of my favorite electronic bands,
for sure.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) YEAH! (warning: long rant)
Date: 07 Nov 1999 23:20:18 EST

DEPECHE MODE IS AWESOME!!



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 07 Nov 1999 23:22:16 -0800

Speaking of Beck ok WTF..
I saw that Emptvee concert he did..and like he is now this total Prince
ripoff...with the falsetto and everything..blah
heh wish he would go back to the ole folk songs like "Satan Gave Me A Taco"

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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 7:45 PM


In a message dated 11/7/99 12:17:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< go to some fan Underworld pages...his lyrics are cool cause they are
really
 all non linear and don't follow any pattern or have like a definite
 theme...it's like random poetry and words to covey this huge message >>

Beck is more random and twisted though, but he's not electronica so it
doesn't count.  The cool thing about Moby's lyrics is that he usually
singles
out one single theme or idea and builds around it with the music to complete
a whole theme, making the lyrics not the central focus.  Other people make
the lyrics the central focus and background noise as not as important.  Just
different perspectives on the music.


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Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me




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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 07 Nov 1999 20:39:46 -0800 (PST)

--- [e-mail] wrote:
>>try Underworld if you want that kind of
>>stuff. Amazing lyrics...
>
> really...not too sure about that..i mean, half
> of the time i don't understand what they are
> saying, and the other half, i feel like they
> are always saying "boy" this, "boy" that...

Born Slippy <> Underworld.
Born Slippy is but one of their songs.
Most of their songs are not like that.
Judgments on a band from one song are
unacceptable.  Violators will be punished
severely, that is all.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics... (OFF TOPIC)
Date: 07 Nov 1999 23:30:58 EST

In a message dated 11/7/99 8:24:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Speaking of Beck ok WTF..
 I saw that Emptvee concert he did..and like he is now this total Prince
 ripoff...with the falsetto and everything..blah
 heh wish he would go back to the ole folk songs like "Satan Gave Me A Taco"
  >>

I just read this article on it and he's trying to be a pimp kinda.  His
tribute to R&B (which he says jokingly that singing R&B gives him like 3
hernias hehe)  But I do like Sexx Laws with the banjo and trumpets strewn
around, but the Prince thing has to go.  He has such a sexy voice when he's
not trying to be all high pitched and what not.   But I will not digress.
He's on tonight and I'll watch and I'm sure I'll enjoy just seeing him.


"You can't edit yourself" ~ Beck Hansen

Are you addicted to breathing? ~ Me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 08 Nov 1999 09:51:10 EST

i've actually heard "boy thi, boy that" on two different songs...i'm just
trying to make the point that i cannot really understand what he's saying and
i'm not a big enough fan to attempt to find out the poetic meaning in his
music....elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Energy Music - UK Follow-Up - OFF TOPIC
Date: 08 Nov 1999 8:43:45 -0800

Sorry for the off-topic again, but
I gotta follow-up from a previous post
of mine

As it turns out Energy Music is fine

It is the US Postal Service that sucks!


Deemo




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Japanese Animal Rights promo
Date: 08 Nov 1999 12:34:48 EST

I did a search on eil.com for moby and came up with a Japanese Animal Rights
DJ promo cd.  Listing:

MOBY Animal Rights (Japanese 17-track DJ promo CD feat bonus track "New Dawn
Fades" - picture sleeve & obi - plus still sealed)(134151)

That would make 4 versions of Animal Rights that I've heard of.  Ne 1 know if
this one is worth to $40 listing price?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) in the mind of moby
Date: 08 Nov 1999 12:48:46 EST


i recently found a lovely moby interview from nme.com
check it out:

http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991107120042.html

later,
-tina



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Another Discography Q
Date: 08 Nov 1999 13:06:27 EST

I have been seeing "bodywork" all over the place as a UK release, but it's
not in the official discography and of course there is no track listings
available (why would they make life simple)  So anyone know what it's about?



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Japanese Animal Rights promo
Date: 08 Nov 1999 11:36:19 PST


>From: [e-mail]
>MOBY Animal Rights (Japanese 17-track DJ promo CD feat bonus >track "New
>Dawn
>Fades" - picture sleeve & obi - plus still sealed)(134151)

No, not worth $40, at all. That's just a promo release of the Japanese
release of AR, which is identical to the US release but for the extra song,
which is the also-common New Dawn Fades.

-S

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From: "Mike A7" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) why can't i stop?
Date: 08 Nov 1999 12:58:34 -0500

Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> uh thats "Why Can't It Stop?"....urrr......
>
> anyway i saw in Billboard that "WCIS?" credited to
> Moby on Edel America is number 3 on the sort of
> Bubbling Under club chart (its the 5 songs under the
> top 50 that havent hit the chart yet that are new) so
> i guess clubs are hyping "WCIS?" as the new single!
> and its not even rom PLAY! wow! thats a bit
> interesting.... is this song getting an official
> re-release, as a single, as Moby? are there remixes
> out? or is it just people playing it from Hackers 3?
> (does that cd have ANYTHING to do with the movie
> dammit?)

Well I picked up a promo US 12" this weekend at my local record store, it
is credited to Moby. A Side has "Why Can't It Stop", and the B-side is
BLANK. It states it is from Hackers 3 so there are promos of this going out
to the clubs and such, that is why it is on Billboards charts. Don't know
about a commerical release though.

MikeA










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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rs moby coachella review
Date: 08 Nov 1999 14:35:30 -0800 (PST)

hey in the new Rollin Stone with Rage ATMcard on the
cover (no that was not even meant to be funny...)
theres a review of Coachella, and it has a cute little
Moby picture, him standing on top of a keyboard, like
sucking on a microphone almost. sweet! and it says a
paragraf about him, it says people at the second stage
were.... i dunno, something on the lines of they were
surprised, like he was the surprise hit performance,
or sumthin, he was all bouncing from keyboards to
drums to gitarz.... rock!

and they review the "Splendor" sdtk in a big
soundtrack review, its the best one, 3 1/2 stars.
well, thats what you get when you release something on
Astralwerks... whatever, maybe not.

if ne1 cares, they didnt play Wiseguys on AMP last
night, they played Les Rhythmes Digitales instead. hee
hee, "Hey you what's that sound"..... heh it samples
Skee Lo! "I wish i was a little bit taller, i wish i
was a baller, i wish i had a girl who looked good and
i would call her...." and something about a rabbit in
a hat with a bat? i didnt get that part. thats one of
those songs like "Three Little Pigs" that i havent
heard in ages and there it is.... so when is some hip
hop group gonna sample "Three Little Pigs"? uh,
nevermind.


right, rant over. time for quote!

"I love beans, woo woo woo!
I love beans, how bout you?
High in fiber, low in fat!
Hey, I bet you didn't know that!"
BRAK (from Space Ghost)

BYE!!!!!!!!!!!

=====
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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) out-of-synch vox
Date: 08 Nov 1999 14:53:36 -0800 (PST)


> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:50:20 -0600
> From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
>
> >> Has anyone else listened to WDMHFSB (atb remix)
> >> and been reminded of Aqua's "Barbie Girl"?
> >
> >I'm going to pretend I didn't hear this. ;)
>
> Ha! Too late! You won't be able to listen to it
> again. :)
>
> What about the way the music is out-of-tune with
> some of the vocals?
>


damn i HATE when vocal samples are like that!!!! like,
on the Bush remix cd (sorry, i had to get it for
Goldie and Tricky and MBM and besides i used to like
Bush) the remixes for "Everything Zen" and i think a
few others.. theyre all fucked up! like, don't people
notice this?

whatever, its not like its easy. i could never
properly remix something like that.

i heard the Ferry corsten mix, i think. its not bad,
but well i dont really think any mixes could ever
replace originals. whatever, bye!


"Dis is Precious Roy! And I got a blister shaped like
Carmen Electra!"
"No Precious, what about the Foot-Long Hamsters?"
"Buy my skinless anti-dragons! SUCKERS!!!!!!"

=====
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SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
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(aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<)
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From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: I need to get some f**king sleep
Date: 09 Nov 1999 01:31:08 +0000



mobility-digest wrote:
> >cryptic lyrics, like a Bob Dylan of techno.
> try Underworld if you want that kind of stuff. Amazing lyrics...
>

Hang on, what about Faithless???????????????????????



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From: The Nelson Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 08 Nov 1999 21:26:04 -0500

does anyone know any record shops in the MD area that has a fairly large
techno section? also who know where i can get some house voice sample CDs
for my home studio?




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby pic & WDMHFSB? video
Date: 08 Nov 1999 23:00:52 EST

I saw the WDMHFSD single in a record store, and when I saw the "adorable
little idiot" in the barrel, I smiled and giggled....everyone looked at me
funny...I felt.... Stupid.. I love little idiot!!!! Oh yes... I havnt seen
the video yet....but looking for it... (Too much VH1.... Bad for my head!!)

                             ~Felicia



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From: "Raven" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) out-of-synch vox
Date: 09 Nov 1999 00:51:33 -0500

> damn i HATE when vocal samples are like that!!!! like,
> on the Bush remix cd (sorry, i had to get it for
> Goldie and Tricky and MBM and besides i used to like
> Bush) the remixes for "Everything Zen" and i think a
> few others.. theyre all fucked up! like, don't people
> notice this?

What I hate is when different samples are out of sync.  Even a couple of
Moby tracks are like this.  I love the b-side "Sunday", but I really do not
like the beginning sound that's kind of moving back and forth.  :P  It's
just out of sync with the rest of what's going on.

A *lot* of techno has that problem, and it drives me nuts.  You'd notice it
in any other kind of music.  It's like a rock band where everyone's playing
one song, except the drummer, who's playing some complete different and
improvised song inspired by the voices in his head.  (this seems to happen
quite often to local bands)  :P

Chris




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 09 Nov 1999 00:58:46 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> I wouldn't categorize most of Moby's music as pop techno.  Yeah there's

> to make people cry while they're driving to work is not kosher.  I mean I've
> never heard when its cold i'd like to die on the radio or even played outside
> my cd-player.  And that's the stuff that moves me.  And personally,  i tire
> of the poppy songs quickly and usually skip to the more meaningful ones.

i aggree, most of the really great moby stuff is non-pop.
also, i play "when it's cold..." often on my radio show. i'm talking
100,000 watts here. you should listen! go to www.kumd.org on tuesday
nights from 9-11pm central an listen to me! call me at 1-800-566-KUMD and
tell me you're out there and request something!
[xaq]



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) words
Date: 09 Nov 1999 01:02:08 -0600 (CST)


On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, jj fish wrote:

> I've always wanted to have somebody make dance songs with intelligent or
> cryptic lyrics, like a Bob Dylan of techno. I enjoyed Machete alot because
> it kind of got the feel I was looking for

well, i can't go along with that bob dylan guy, but like it has been
said, underworld and faithless have some good vocals. of course i also
love aphex twin's vocals on his past few records, like that milkman
song...weee!

[xaq]



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld and Moby lyrics...
Date: 09 Nov 1999 01:07:44 -0600 (CST)


someone mentioned underworld and "dirty epic." oh god, the words to that
are on par with "when it's cold i'd like to die." "iiiiiiiiiiiiii'm
sooooo diiiiirty..." and "and we all went, mental, and danced." oh i love
that song.

"dirty dirty dirty.....polyester chicken..."
oooh! i need sleep!
[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/





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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) FWD: Moby news
Date: 09 Nov 1999 05:47:47 -0700

> >Hey I heard on the radio this morning that Moby is coming again. But he is
> >playing with a bunch of retarded bands. Its like in mid or late December at
> >Desert Sky. It's some christmas with no snow festival they are calling it. SO
> >the other bands that I remember were Blink 182, and 311 heheheh 311 nasty.
> >What do you think is possesing moby to play with those 2 bands. I think like
> >2 other bands were mentioned but I don't remember whe they were. SO I just
> >thought I would let you know. Desert Sky is kinda lame and I don't know how
> >much it would be. SO what else. I don't know. That's all........ed

My best friend sent me this.  So if any one else lives in AZ, here ya go.  I
agree w/ her though, I mean, common 311?

Hey, how many ppl on the list *do* live in AZ?  I think Michaela (sp?) lives here
in Tucson.  Anyone else?

--kimby




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) FWD: Moby news
Date: 09 Nov 1999 11:56:12 EST

In a message dated 11/09/1999 4:48:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< My best friend sent me this.  So if any one else lives in AZ, here ya go.
I
 agree w/ her though, I mean, common 311?

 Hey, how many ppl on the list *do* live in AZ?  I think Michaela (sp?) lives
here
 in Tucson.  Anyone else? >>

Well I live in So. Cal, but Arizona's not that big of a drive.... Like 4
hours I think...  I would so go, cuz I like Blink, they're funny.  But 311?
They're time passed years ago.  But why Arizona?



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From: "daley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) *off topic* I KNEW IT! (aphex twin stuff)
Date: 09 Nov 1999 10:08:55 -0700

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Q Magazine & New Years
Date: 09 Nov 1999 12:13:35 EST

Well I just picked up the newest Q magazine in the vague hope they'd have a
review of Bt's cd (yeah right).  But in one of they're little blurby side
bars (Air time i think) they were very very rude to moby.  They were raving
about Play of course, but they called him a baldy-vegan (not bad, but they
gave it a negative connotation) and called him a bore.  I have never put the
words Moby and bore together in as long as I've know about him.  I really was
about to hurl that damn stogy ass magazine out the window..  I though
American magazines overlooked the genius, I guess mainstream british pubs are
just as bad... Least RS rated Everything is Wrongs as one of the greatest
albums of the 90's (which was very very cool)... Grr.. totally ruined my
evening until I saw that cute Moby picture in RS...

Ne a hoo ~ anyone know if Moby's doing a New Year's gig?  I know there's some
huge techno legends thing in England which made me very upset, but that's not
really his scene anymore with Play.  Ne 1 know?  Any one? Any one?  What a
way that would be to bring in the new decade (and it's not the millenium so
it extends the fun over 2 years)  =)



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From: "nelson-family" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 09 Nov 1999 12:34:05 -0500

me again
I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.  Ill be covered in wires and
other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?




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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Playing JBmix at school
Date: 09 Nov 1999 19:08:53 +0100

On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 12:34:05PM -0500, nelson-family wrote:

> I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
> school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
> a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
> cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.
Wow.. that sounds cool... That reminded me a version of Kraftwerk's
"We are the robots", performed by a string quartet... Most amazing was
the cellos (I swear) that seemed to pronounce that "We are the
robots".. My skin always get chickenish when I listen to it.

> Ill be covered in wires and
> other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
> anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?
I'd like to get to listen to it...

By the way, and (more or less) talking about versions... Do you know
if there has been any strings version of some Moby song ? I'd like the
guys that recorded Kraftwerk's do the same with some Moby's...


--
Jonathan Ruano Pach                Email: <[e-mail]>
ICQ:1252101 AIM:Tlabok IRC:Kobalt  Homepage: http://www.encomix.es/~jonah



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) ATB remix
Date: 09 Nov 1999 13:27:25 -0800

hmm popping in the cd and pressing play would be good enough :P
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of nelson-family
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 9:34 AM


me again
I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.  Ill be covered in wires and
other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking
Date: 09 Nov 1999 13:28:54 -0800

> You're equivocating on the meaning of drugs.
> When he said drugs, he meant illegal,
> mind-altering, addictive narcotics.  You are
> speaking of the parmecutical kind, totally
> irrelevant.

some people wouldn't say so.  it's always society's call as to whether a
drug is bad, whether it's illegal (or hey, even whether it's
mind-altering).

> > Why is it okay for people to die in car
> > wrecks and of alcohol poisoning from alcohol,
> > but it's not okay for someone to OD on heroin?
>
> I don't think either is okay, not many people
> would.

by "allowing" people to continue doing it, they are saying it is okay.
if we, as a people, didn't think it was okay, alcoholic beverages would
be illegal, or at least any negative behavior stemming from their use
would be punished much more harshly.

> > Of course
> > drugs are bad.  Why?  Because they are!
>
> No, most people would say that they cause
> addiction . . . Few people say they are bad "because they are".

if you ask a little kid, "why are drugs bad?" what will she say?  *I*
was just trying to say, however ineloquently, that we're told what is
good and what is bad for us, and we usually accept it without
questioning it.  How could "Reefer Madness" happen otherwise?

laura




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion.
Date: 09 Nov 1999 13:48:32 -0800



>  LAura...
> I visited your little pro vegan link about cows..
> and honestly I didn't see anything really brutal and cruel

my little pro vegan link.
maybe there wasn't anything shocking there--i didn't feel like spending 27 hours
looking for sites with explicit pictures on them just to satisfy people who
aren't going to care, anyway.

> ...the industry
> isn't perfect, so some cows get the bad luck..who really fucking
> cares...THERE ARE BIGGER PROBLEMS in the world right now, maybe you should
> post some url's on actual HUMANS getting stacked in close spaces and being
> persecuted for their beliefs and being killed and shot in streets and dying
> of hunger, if you would stop worrying about the damn cows, you think those
> people who are all emaciated and dying of hunger care if they eat a
> vegetable or meat...

yes, i do think they care. some of them.  i think you're missing my point, tho.
i couldn't give a fuck if a life is human or animal, they're worth the same
thing to me.  discounting personal affections of course.  don't say "ya, you'd
be singin a different tune if your mom was gonna die," because that's stupid.
as a matter of fact, i have human rights links on my site, and human rights
stickers on my car.  but i'm not going to have a disclaimer on everything i say,
that "Hey, i dont just like animals, guys, I like people, too! so please like
me!" in a more or less unrelated conversation.

> heh, re-evaluate the situation, and you can see that
> your vegetarian views aren't practical at all for the world's population

MY views aren't practical for the world's population?  are you blind? or
stupid?  can you not see that, besides the fact that people are eating
themselves to death, the earth is being raped to make room for cows, and other
animal farming.  you can feed up to 21 times as many people with an acre of
plants as you can with an acre of land where cows graze.  How is that
impractical?  With all the starving people all over, as you were so wont to
bring up, why can't we use that land to feed 21 times as many people?  do you
really think they care whether they're eating vegetables or meat?

>
> ...and like no shit, showing me pictures of raw meat and cows hanging from
> hooks and such and their scraps doesn't gross me out.  Like what did you
> think I would expect it to be, somehow they just vaporize the meat off the
> cows neatly? :P  Blah.....if  you see some pictures of lions ripping apart
> zebras, you'll probably think lions are cruel too...

you said cows are all outside, frolicking in the meadows.  i showed you pictures
of cows inside, in crates.  i think lions do what they need to do to survive.
in nature.  i think we do what we want to do, no matter who it hurts (which does
include us, as humans).  obviously, if i don't eat meat, i won't die.  but a
lion might.

> as for Moby riding a bike everywhere...ok that is not going to
> happen..considering I see a big red tour bus at each on of his gigs that
> emits more carbon monoxide than a car would.

dude, i really did not think that he carried all his tour shit on his bike.  i'm
talking about like, going to a store that's a half a mile away, something like
that.  i don't know about his lifestyle, only what i've heard.  and from someone
as vehemently anti-combustion engine as he is, i would suspect he doesn't drive
a car when he could ride his bike, practically.  but i don't know.  i don't know
the man.

> Some "ideas" that people have aren't practical at the time..instead of
> people saying it is all wrong and bad bad bad...maybe they should find
> another more practical solution...
> heh, it's like...for us not to be totally cruel to animals, we cann only eat
> vegetables...

i understand that, likely, all humans will never become vegetarians (at least of
their own volition).  But, with that in mind, i would be ecstatic to know that
cows are treated well while they're alive, and are killed with as much kindness
as possible.  There is more than just the two extremes.. it's just usually the
extremists who speak out.  i think you would be surprised by how many people
would be satisfied with just the humane treatment of animals raised for meat.

> for us to stop pollution, we must ride bikes and not cars

you're simplifying things to make other people look bad.  no one said that you
have to ride a bike in order to stop pollution.  people *are* looking at other
options, or there wouldn't be electric cars right now.  The issue has to be
brought up, however, in order for people to want to change it.  should we not
talk about it?

> and
> to stop the rainforest from falling we must stop using paper...
> like ok, those are solutions..but they sure as hell aren't practical...

why aren't they practical?  because people are lazy, because they don't like
change?  most people aren't asking you to stop using paper. they're asking for
you to recycle, and for companies to use renewable resources rather than old
growth and rainforest trees.

> I didn't know why you insisted on brining this back up again, because I
> thought opinions were resolved.
>

i haven't been around for a while, my friend.  and my opinion will never be
resolved with most other people's opinions.  and that is why i'm not going to be
posting about veganism or animals anymore.  or anything else except moby.  and
cheese.

>
> please get back to Moby's music or something related to it..because this is
> as practical really as arguing religion

practical practical practical

maybe my views are impractical.  but so are yours.  and i don't see how me
sitting on my ass and keeping quiet about what i think is going to help
*anyone,* least of all me.  and if you're so tired of people coming up with
impractical solutions, why don't you come up with some practical solutions of
your own?

laura

ps:  i wonder if moby made a post about veganism if it would be off topic :)






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:11:48 EST

tower records has techno but it depends on which store you go to...there is
one in georgetown



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking (off the music topic)
Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:20:33 EST

In a message dated 11/09/1999 1:30:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< by "allowing" people to continue doing it, they are saying it is okay.
 if we, as a people, didn't think it was okay, alcoholic beverages would
 be illegal, or at least any negative behavior stemming from their use
 would be punished much more harshly.
  >>

No.  Alcohol is not illegal because there is some chance of control and
moderation (which can also be said about marijuana, but I won't go there).
Beyond creating liver disease, cancer, likelihood of diabetes in your golden
years, alcohol poses no immediate threat.  Neither do cigarettes, but it is
harder to moderate cigarettes than alcohol.  But cigarettes are endagering
more lives than alcohol, so why aren't they illegal.  Because of the
corporate powers that rule the world.  So drop it.  It's not changing.
Making alcohol illegal just made it more popular and led to a rise in crime
(do we have to go over the evils of Prohibition?).  The reason marijuana
isn't legal is because tobacco companies see it as a threat, even though it's
probably helped more people than hurt, but that's a matter of opinion.  Drop
it.  Alcohol and smoking will never be illegal. It's became a natural choice
for all human beings to make.



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ATB, Opus III, & Moby
Date: 09 Nov 1999 14:20:54 PST


First if all, Bodyrock. I've seen an MRE 12" in yellow cardboard (cardboard
ripples on the outside, interesting) called Bodyrock, and the record store
had "Once In A Lifetime" written under it, does anybody know if this is a
Talking Heads remix? It was 13.99, which was too much for curiosity, but if
it is.... I must have it. I doubt it's Moby related because...

I've also seen (and bought) a CD single for Michie One & Louchie Lou (or
something to that effect) that is also called Bodyrock. Has absolutely
nothing to do with Moby. I only listened to it once and I think it was
clubby house. Wasn't impressed.

Also at the vinyl stop is a 12" that has ATB, Jason Nevins, & Jonathan
Peters remixes of "It's A Fine Day", by Opus III. Moby remixed this for the
official 12" for that title. The new one is club and trance mixes, 2 ATB, 1
each for the other two remixers. I like it.

*off topic ATB & Beck stuff*
I decided to buy some ATB since I like the mix they did for Moby, and I
scored a lmtd. "Don't Stop Remixes" that has  1 Quake &  1 Sash! remix on
it. The Sash! is great! I saw the 2x12" for this song and I'll probablt buy
it so I can hear ATB's original. I also picked up "Killer" by ATB, and I
think it's lame. Opinions? Please e-mail me privately.

I got the clear 12" for Sexx Laws from BECKdirect and the Malibu remix on
the b-side is Blue Monday meets Sexx Laws. You have to hear to beleive it,
it's even funnier than the song itself! Just in case you wanted that fyi...


-Steve

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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion. off topic whatever
Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:20:04 -0800

I already presented my practical solution.

Eat animals
Because in the food chain, we are on a higher level.
You can't make people give up their tastes and preferences in food..it won't
change heh, so there are other things that must be resolved first..
As for human rights...
no one ever talks about them..which is really kind of sad..if you are going
to use your voice for something, save humans heh
when looking for solutions to solve the world, the solution must be as easy
and readily available as it is right now.
Recycling is a bitch for me to do, maybe waste management should invent a
system to where it sorts and recycles trash itself and stop relying on
people to do it.  Electric cars are a stupid concept right now...we should
just be looking for an alternate fuel to burn.  You want to clear land to
plant stuff, I would rather have animals grazing on that land.  Also, do you
know how many jobs would be lost and how our economy would fall if the whole
world turned vegan and we just freed all the animals "animal liberation"
Clothing manafacturers, the meat industry, ranchers, cosmetics, and so many
other things, are just kicked out of our economy, it won't work.
Practicality is what I'm looking for.  We do what we do to survive.  Bitch
at animal testing labs if you want to talk about cruelty.  It really doesn't
matter if I am lazy..because I am just an example of a normal person. We are
too busy and have too many other problems to worry about all this extra
"stuff".  So you have to find solutions that cater to the bulk of society
and to the normal person.  Otherwise it won't work, that is just life.
Chris







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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) poll time!
Date: 09 Nov 1999 14:25:00 -0800

> first off, Laura, yr quotes are the bomb! i dont even
> read the content, just down to the quote! "nobody will
> remember me after i'm gone---some dead guy" genius!
> thats like a TMBG song!

*l* thanks, phizzo, it's good you don't read the actual posts, or you'd
probably hate me too ;)

> POLL TIME!
> ok this is about songs. singles, specifically. which
> song would you elect the perfect single? i'll break it
> down into sections:
>
> 1. Perfect Moby single

Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? i think.

> 2. Perfect non-Moby single

Let Me Go by Cake.  I'm listening to it right now, and it's a perfect
single.  You can sing along with it after the first 8 measures, and you
gotta bop when it's playing.  Also Numb, by Portishead.  It's perfect,
single or not.

> 3. Perfect Moby single that isn't (as in, song from an
> album that hasnt been released as a single, including
> trax from play that are not yet scheduled to be
> released...)

The Sky is Broken or Inside.  They're both really dramatic and pretty,
and the videos I imagine for them are really cool.  The songs are like
little movies.

> 4. same, non-moby

Water, by PJ Harvey.  It's a lilbit abrasive, but when she starts
singing "waaaaaater!" you have to sing along.  And that's my definition
of a perfect single :)  Ooh, also, Western Eyes by Portishead.  Again,
it's just perfect.

> 1. eh... mmm... i dont know, why do you force me into
> this!?!? ;) ah actually NOT GO (sorry im a little
> bored of this song) but i think the perfect Moby
> single would be....Run On. for now. sorry, maybe i'll
> get back to this later.

Ooh ya, Run On.  Good choice. :)

laura!

--
Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's
neck, and
the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what
is that thing.





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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) poll time!
Date: 09 Nov 1999 14:25:00 -0800

> first off, Laura, yr quotes are the bomb! i dont even
> read the content, just down to the quote! "nobody will
> remember me after i'm gone---some dead guy" genius!
> thats like a TMBG song!

*l* thanks, phizzo, it's good you don't read the actual posts, or you'd
probably hate me too ;)

> POLL TIME!
> ok this is about songs. singles, specifically. which
> song would you elect the perfect single? i'll break it
> down into sections:
>
> 1. Perfect Moby single

Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? i think.

> 2. Perfect non-Moby single

Let Me Go by Cake.  I'm listening to it right now, and it's a perfect
single.  You can sing along with it after the first 8 measures, and you
gotta bop when it's playing.  Also Numb, by Portishead.  It's perfect,
single or not.

> 3. Perfect Moby single that isn't (as in, song from an
> album that hasnt been released as a single, including
> trax from play that are not yet scheduled to be
> released...)

The Sky is Broken or Inside.  They're both really dramatic and pretty,
and the videos I imagine for them are really cool.  The songs are like
little movies.

> 4. same, non-moby

Water, by PJ Harvey.  It's a lilbit abrasive, but when she starts
singing "waaaaaater!" you have to sing along.  And that's my definition
of a perfect single :)  Ooh, also, Western Eyes by Portishead.  Again,
it's just perfect.

> 1. eh... mmm... i dont know, why do you force me into
> this!?!? ;) ah actually NOT GO (sorry im a little
> bored of this song) but i think the perfect Moby
> single would be....Run On. for now. sorry, maybe i'll
> get back to this later.

Ooh ya, Run On.  Good choice. :)

laura!

--
Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's
neck, and
the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what
is that thing.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion. (OT of music)
Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:34:51 EST

In a message dated 11/09/1999 1:56:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< MY views aren't practical for the world's population?  are you blind? or
 stupid?  can you not see that, besides the fact that people are eating
 themselves to death, the earth is being raped to make room for cows, and
other
 animal farming.  you can feed up to 21 times as many people with an acre of
 plants as you can with an acre of land where cows graze.  How is that
 impractical?  With all the starving people all over, as you were so wont to
 bring up, why can't we use that land to feed 21 times as many people?  do you
 really think they care whether they're eating vegetables or meat? >>

I know I promised, but damnit Laura, you're just begging for an argument
aren't you?  Yes it's lovely you have nice stats, I've read those two..  And
you're right, humans can survive without animal products, cept the fact that
we're OMNIVORES and we were created to eat both plants and animals.  You
state that you care about animals, but then you seperate us from the lion who
eats a zebra.  Why?  We're all animals right?  Do you think a lion goes, hmm
I shouldn't eat that zebra because 1~ it's a living creature and it deserves
the right to live, 2 ~ do you know how wasteful it is and how much better I
would be eating grain.  Please.  Yeah eating meat at this point in human
evolution is probably very very toxic considering that animals have high
levels of toxicity due to our lovely pollution.  But the rights of other
fellow animals?  Ever hear of Darwin?  Look him up.  We are what we are for a
reason.  We do what we do for a reason.  It's nice that you care about the
world and you want to save it.  But giving random stats, showing grotesque
pictures, and asking for drastic change is not the way, and hurts the cause.
Baby steps.  baby steps.  Get people to recycle cans, then they're paper, and
then if they're adventerous, try plastics.  Encourage those with a gardening
urge to have a composte (my grandmother did just for the fertiziler value,
before it was known to be eco-friendly.)  If electic cars became practical
for everyday life and could haul ass as fast as my car, then sure, I'd love
to save the gas money.  The cause is dandy, the method is stupid.  And I've
said enough and I'm very angry at you for dragging me back into this argument
cuz I'm stubborn and boistourious and have to speak my opinion.

Toodles
Dei



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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) smoking (off the music topic)
Date: 09 Nov 1999 15:09:48 -0800



> But cigarettes are endagering
> more lives than alcohol, so why aren't they illegal.  Because of the
> corporate powers that rule the world.

that is exactly what i said in one of my other messages.

> So drop it.  It's not changing.
> Making alcohol illegal just made it more popular and led to a rise in crime
> (do we have to go over the evils of Prohibition?). . . .  Alcohol and smoking
> will never be illegal. It's became a natural choice
> for all human beings to make.

i don't want alcohol to be outlawed. i don't want cigarettes to be outlawed.  i
want the rest of the drugs to be legalized.  and that's all i have to say about
that.

run laura run

--
During the Middle Ages, probably one of the biggest mistakes was not putting on
your armor because you were 'just going down to the corner.'




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From: Laura <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion. (OT of music)
Date: 09 Nov 1999 15:20:35 -0800



[e-mail] wrote:

>  And I've
> said enough and I'm very angry at you for dragging me back into this argument
> cuz I'm stubborn and boistourious and have to speak my opinion.

do you think my reasons for replying are any different than yours?  if you see
ignorance, you want to change it to knowledgeability don't you?  apparently you
do, or you wouldn't have responded, "correcting" me.  i'm the same way, but
because we believe different things, we are each other's bad guy.  but sincerely,
i am not going to respond anymore.  get in your last word, if you haven't.  sorry
for any arterial distress i may have caused you.

god gi good een.
laura zone

--
Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an
astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into
Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham!, you just slam the
door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not
Dracula, but you just say:  Think again, bat man.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion. off topic whatever
Date: 09 Nov 1999 18:39:36 EST

In a message dated 11/9/99 5:22:39 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Also, do you know how many jobs would be lost and how our economy would
fall if the whole world turned vegan and we just freed all the animals
"animal liberation"

Clothing manafacturers, the meat industry, ranchers, cosmetics, and so many

other things, are just kicked out of our economy, it won't work. >>

Hello, getting defensive? They shouldn't be there anyway.
It is so much more efficient to eat lower on the food chain; economics
teaches us that the sellers respond to a change in demand. People will be
spending the same amount of money, except on things that do not include
animal products. Economic Darwinism: the company doesn't change, it doesn't
survive; they need to be responsive.
So sorry to be off topic, it was just so tough to resist!!!
-Sarah



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From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) off topic.
Date: 09 Nov 1999 15:49:32 -0800 (PST)

does anyone remember that some chick created a whole
mailing list to talk about vegan/environmental issues.
i like to hear what other people think about this
stuff, but it's really fucking annoying recieving
multiple emails of two people's argument. just as all
the meat eaters are getting sick of hearing about
veganism, i am a vegan and am just as sick of this
debate. read some of the things moby writes. he says
he doesn't judge anyone on the decisions they choose
to make. yes, he has his convictions and we all have
our own. let it be.
*freyja*

--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I already presented my practical solution.
>
> Eat animals
> Because in the food chain, we are on a higher level.
> You can't make people give up their tastes and
> preferences in food..it won't
> change heh, so there are other things that must be
> resolved first..
> As for human rights...
> no one ever talks about them..which is really kind
> of sad..if you are going
> to use your voice for something, save humans heh
> when looking for solutions to solve the world, the
> solution must be as easy
> and readily available as it is right now.
> Recycling is a bitch for me to do, maybe waste
> management should invent a
> system to where it sorts and recycles trash itself
> and stop relying on
> people to do it.  Electric cars are a stupid concept
> right now...we should
> just be looking for an alternate fuel to burn.  You
> want to clear land to
> plant stuff, I would rather have animals grazing on
> that land.  Also, do you
> know how many jobs would be lost and how our economy
> would fall if the whole
> world turned vegan and we just freed all the animals
> "animal liberation"
> Clothing manafacturers, the meat industry, ranchers,
> cosmetics, and so many
> other things, are just kicked out of our economy, it
> won't work.
> Practicality is what I'm looking for.  We do what we
> do to survive.  Bitch
> at animal testing labs if you want to talk about
> cruelty.  It really doesn't
> matter if I am lazy..because I am just an example of
> a normal person. We are
> too busy and have too many other problems to worry
> about all this extra
> "stuff".  So you have to find solutions that cater
> to the bulk of society
> and to the normal person.  Otherwise it won't work,
> that is just life.
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion. (OT of music)
Date: 09 Nov 1999 19:10:31 EST

In a message dated 11/09/1999 3:21:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< do you think my reasons for replying are any different than yours?  if you
see
 ignorance, you want to change it to knowledgeability don't you?  apparently
you
 do, or you wouldn't have responded, "correcting" me.  i'm the same way, but
 because we believe different things, we are each other's bad guy.  but
sincerely,
 i am not going to respond anymore.  get in your last word, if you haven't.
sorry
 for any arterial distress i may have caused you. >>

You're not my bad guy.  You have good points, but there's better ways to
acheive your goal.  You believe in what you preech and not hypocrite...  I
never meant to say that you were.



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From: "krwilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals.  Combustion. off topic whatever
Date: 09 Nov 1999 18:54:39 -0600


> Recycling is a bitch for me to do, maybe waste management should invent a
> system to where it sorts and recycles trash itself and stop relying on
> people to do it.

Good point.  Maybe if we could put the responibility of everything on
someone else's shoulders, we can be lazy, disrespectful(to Mother Earth and
ourselves and every other living thing), and guilt-free since it's always
"Someone else's problem".  I like the way you avoid any responsibility.

> Electric cars are a stupid concept right now...we should
> just be looking for an alternate fuel to burn.

Yeah.  How 'bout human corpses?  Or maybe whale fat!  If people could get
any grants for research into Wind, hydro, and solar power- maybe Electric
cars would be a more attainable concept.  If the DEA were disbanded, and
drugs, prostitution, and gambling were all legalized- there would be a few
extra hundred billion dollars a year to spend on something more worthwhile
than a war on our own citizens.  Such as: alternate power sources that are
environmentally friendly, AIDs, cancer, MS, etc. research, hemp(the most
useful plant in the world which is "illegal" in many countries), Drug
education that isn't full of bias and propaganda, Recycling centers that are
easily accesable in EVERY town, buying up land in rainforests so they can't
be destroyed, and many, many, many others.

>You want to clear land to plant stuff, I would rather have animals grazing
on > that land.

Why don't you take a few minutes to read the liner notes for "Everything is
wrong"?  It gives ample reason to negate any concept of animals grazing as
being "beneficial".

> Also, do you know how many jobs would be lost and how our economy > would
fall if the whole world turned vegan and we just freed all the animals >
"animal liberation"

What a pity!  As before jobs would be much more plentiful if the DEA didn't
exist and drugs, prostitution, and gambling were legal.  Even if that idea
horrifies you, I have a more basic argument.  Animals have feelings.  They
have nerves and can feel pleasure and pain.  They have emotions, not as
complex as ours, but any two of the same kind of animal will have it's own
identifiable personality.  It may be easier to let things continue like
they're going, but the easy things in life are just easy, not fulfilling.
If the Nazis decided to keep killing Jews just because it kept alot of
Germans employed, I guess that would be ok in your book also?

> Clothing manafacturers, the meat industry, ranchers, cosmetics, and so
many
> other things, are just kicked out of our economy, it won't work.

Clothing manufacturers would love it if hemp were legal everywhere.  It is
excellent for clothing among many other things.  Leather is completely
unnecessary in this day and age.  Everything done with leather can be done
better and cheaper with something else.
     The meat industry disgusts me.  Read a book about the meat industry
written by someone other than the meat industry.  "Dead meat" is an
excellent albeit horrifying book that can't help but make you feel like a
shithead for eating meat.  I don't remember the author, but it should be
easy to find at Amazon.

     Ranchers, huh?  Yeah, that's a big percentage of jobs in America and
Europe.  How many ranchers do you know?  I've never met ONE.  Change is
necessary.  It is always better to change than suffer.  There are other jobs
that are much more humane.  If you like the outdoors, you can work for the
forest service.  If you like working with animals, you can work at a pet
shelter.

Absolutely no animals are needed for cosmetics.  There are way better
alternatives.  And we don't need to test on animals either.

> Practicality is what I'm looking for.

Maybe you're looking for the wrong thing.  Being able to look inside
yourself and see what you're doing wrong and make an effort to fix it is an
essential feature to have a happy life.  It takes effort, belief in
something, and taking action on the part of your beliefs to make a life
worthwhile.  You may disagree with this statement, but it's only because you
are unwilling to realize that there are other living beings out there that
are every bit as important and necessary as you.  In order to satisfy
yourself, you have to achieve a balance where you aren't hurting, but you
are helping.  I hope someday you will agree with me on this.

> We do what we do to survive.

This statement is patently false.  You and I and everyone one else living in
civilized places on the earth  are not subsistence living.  We don't live
day to day just trying to get enough food to survive.  That has become a
very small, but essential part of our lives.  It is our job to help people
who ARE in that situation by educating them on birth control, hygene, and
nutrition.  If they knew how much more food they could get out of the grain
we send them than through livestock production, they would be much better
off.  Refer to the part of the liner notes for "Everything is wrong"  about
the ratio of water used for tomatoes versus beef, or the part about grain
made into bread versus grain used for livestock.  It is very basic math and
the results are astounding.  There is no reason to waste so much on so very
little.


>  It really doesn't  matter if I am lazy..because I am just an example of a
normal > person.

There is no reason to think that there is such a thing as a "normal" person.
Everyone is different from everyone else in many different ways.  If you
have any respect for yourself, you will desire very badly to be much more
than a "normal" person who spends no effort on helping others.  Everyone
wants to think that they are special; different.  The difference between
animals and humans is that animals run mostly on instinct and have few
choices, whereas humans have many choices, and only a few basic instincts.
The thing that separates humans who are "people"  and humans who are
"animals"  is choices they make.  If you want to be no better than an
animal, even though you have been given so much more potential(as we all
have), then I am sorry.

> We are too busy and have too many other problems to worry about all this >
extra "stuff".  So you have to find solutions that cater to the bulk of
society
> and to the normal person.  Otherwise it won't work, that is just life.

 "All this extra 'stuff' " as you call it is actually the important thing.
Money, whether or not your girlfriend is cheating on you, politics, and
sports teams are the chaff.  Moral decisions, friends, beauty, charity,
compassion, and empathy are the real gold of life.  And nothing caters to
anyone.  Everyone works together, or we  achieve nothing.  Please consider
my words before discarding them out of hand as I once would have done.
Thanks.

MO

>




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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animals. Combustion. off topic whatever
Date: 09 Nov 1999 20:04:08 EST

GO MO!!!!!!!  I totally agree.







>
> > Recycling is a bitch for me to do, maybe waste management should invent
>a
> > system to where it sorts and recycles trash itself and stop relying on
> > people to do it.
>
>Good point.  Maybe if we could put the responibility of everything on
>someone else's shoulders, we can be lazy, disrespectful(to Mother Earth and
>ourselves and every other living thing), and guilt-free since it's always
>"Someone else's problem".  I like the way you avoid any responsibility.
>
> > Electric cars are a stupid concept right now...we should
> > just be looking for an alternate fuel to burn.
>
>Yeah.  How 'bout human corpses?  Or maybe whale fat!  If people could get
>any grants for research into Wind, hydro, and solar power- maybe Electric
>cars would be a more attainable concept.  If the DEA were disbanded, and
>drugs, prostitution, and gambling were all legalized- there would be a few
>extra hundred billion dollars a year to spend on something more worthwhile
>than a war on our own citizens.  Such as: alternate power sources that are
>environmentally friendly, AIDs, cancer, MS, etc. research, hemp(the most
>useful plant in the world which is "illegal" in many countries), Drug
>education that isn't full of bias and propaganda, Recycling centers that
>are
>easily accesable in EVERY town, buying up land in rainforests so they can't
>be destroyed, and many, many, many others.
>
> >You want to clear land to plant stuff, I would rather have animals
>grazing
>on > that land.
>
>Why don't you take a few minutes to read the liner notes for "Everything is
>wrong"?  It gives ample reason to negate any concept of animals grazing as
>being "beneficial".
>
> > Also, do you know how many jobs would be lost and how our economy >
>would
>fall if the whole world turned vegan and we just freed all the animals >
>"animal liberation"
>
>What a pity!  As before jobs would be much more plentiful if the DEA didn't
>exist and drugs, prostitution, and gambling were legal.  Even if that idea
>horrifies you, I have a more basic argument.  Animals have feelings.  They
>have nerves and can feel pleasure and pain.  They have emotions, not as
>complex as ours, but any two of the same kind of animal will have it's own
>identifiable personality.  It may be easier to let things continue like
>they're going, but the easy things in life are just easy, not fulfilling.
>If the Nazis decided to keep killing Jews just because it kept alot of
>Germans employed, I guess that would be ok in your book also?
>
> > Clothing manafacturers, the meat industry, ranchers, cosmetics, and so
>many
> > other things, are just kicked out of our economy, it won't work.
>
>Clothing manufacturers would love it if hemp were legal everywhere.  It is
>excellent for clothing among many other things.  Leather is completely
>unnecessary in this day and age.  Everything done with leather can be done
>better and cheaper with something else.
>      The meat industry disgusts me.  Read a book about the meat industry
>written by someone other than the meat industry.  "Dead meat" is an
>excellent albeit horrifying book that can't help but make you feel like a
>shithead for eating meat.  I don't remember the author, but it should be
>easy to find at Amazon.
>
>      Ranchers, huh?  Yeah, that's a big percentage of jobs in America and
>Europe.  How many ranchers do you know?  I've never met ONE.  Change is
>necessary.  It is always better to change than suffer.  There are other
>jobs
>that are much more humane.  If you like the outdoors, you can work for the
>forest service.  If you like working with animals, you can work at a pet
>shelter.
>
>Absolutely no animals are needed for cosmetics.  There are way better
>alternatives.  And we don't need to test on animals either.
>
> > Practicality is what I'm looking for.
>
>Maybe you're looking for the wrong thing.  Being able to look inside
>yourself and see what you're doing wrong and make an effort to fix it is an
>essential feature to have a happy life.  It takes effort, belief in
>something, and taking action on the part of your beliefs to make a life
>worthwhile.  You may disagree with this statement, but it's only because
>you
>are unwilling to realize that there are other living beings out there that
>are every bit as important and necessary as you.  In order to satisfy
>yourself, you have to achieve a balance where you aren't hurting, but you
>are helping.  I hope someday you will agree with me on this.
>
> > We do what we do to survive.
>
>This statement is patently false.  You and I and everyone one else living
>in
>civilized places on the earth  are not subsistence living.  We don't live
>day to day just trying to get enough food to survive.  That has become a
>very small, but essential part of our lives.  It is our job to help people
>who ARE in that situation by educating them on birth control, hygene, and
>nutrition.  If they knew how much more food they could get out of the grain
>we send them than through livestock production, they would be much better
>off.  Refer to the part of the liner notes for "Everything is wrong"  about
>the ratio of water used for tomatoes versus beef, or the part about grain
>made into bread versus grain used for livestock.  It is very basic math and
>the results are astounding.  There is no reason to waste so much on so very
>little.
>
>
> >  It really doesn't  matter if I am lazy..because I am just an example of
>a
>normal > person.
>
>There is no reason to think that there is such a thing as a "normal"
>person.
>Everyone is different from everyone else in many different ways.  If you
>have any respect for yourself, you will desire very badly to be much more
>than a "normal" person who spends no effort on helping others.  Everyone
>wants to think that they are special; different.  The difference between
>animals and humans is that animals run mostly on instinct and have few
>choices, whereas humans have many choices, and only a few basic instincts.
>The thing that separates humans who are "people"  and humans who are
>"animals"  is choices they make.  If you want to be no better than an
>animal, even though you have been given so much more potential(as we all
>have), then I am sorry.
>
> > We are too busy and have too many other problems to worry about all this
> >
>extra "stuff".  So you have to find solutions that cater to the bulk of
>society
> > and to the normal person.  Otherwise it won't work, that is just life.
>
>  "All this extra 'stuff' " as you call it is actually the important thing.
>Money, whether or not your girlfriend is cheating on you, politics, and
>sports teams are the chaff.  Moral decisions, friends, beauty, charity,
>compassion, and empathy are the real gold of life.  And nothing caters to
>anyone.  Everyone works together, or we  achieve nothing.  Please consider
>my words before discarding them out of hand as I once would have done.
>Thanks.
>
>MO
>
> >
>
>
>

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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) AHHH...I eat meat,I am a bastard..off topic by the way
Date: 09 Nov 1999 20:26:41 -0800

Ok...to krwilson.  Whymust I keep defending my meat eating habits.
I do not use Moby as a source of facts so please stop saying refer to the
liner notes of "everything is wrong"...if I wanted a bunch of stats and
facts I would look...but since I am not a vegan I am not bothered by these.
As for knowing ranchers, I know plenty...I lived in texas for 18 years,
maybe you don't remember how much the texan beef industry got pissed off
when Oprah did her show about the industry and got sued.  You don't know
really know how big the industry really is and how many people rely on
cattle for income and animals for income.  Gambling is legal in most states,
most states have a lotto that they get millions and millions of dollars
from.  You can't just shut down an economy that has been built upon an
industry for over 2 centuries and expect us to survive.
Comparing people who eat meat to Nazi's is just a stupid fucking statement,
the fact is animals are not human, if you can't get over that, take a
elementary science class.
It doesn't matter if grain can be more readily available and at more
quantities..the fact that I DON'T WANT TO EAT GRAIN AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR MEAT
defeats that.
I am being honest as far as recycling goes, and most people are like me..so
I am a realist.  There aren't readily available "recycling centers" within
miles of me.  People are too busy and work too much and never have an
leisure time to sort their trash...people want trash to be gone when the
trashman picks it up.
Yeah, it be nice if we lived in a perfect world where we didn't have to
worry about money and things and stuff. BUT WE DON'T...we are not all like
moby and have as much time to devote ourselves to better society.
I have to work 6hrs a day go to college part time and sleep..find someone
who can sort my trash for me and who will pay all my bills and I will live
with the earth in peace and all.  I pay money to have my trash picked up,
and I would like it to stay that way.  We live in a fast world, philosophy
and saying what it "should be" is great and all, but until you make it
practical and a livable solution for me, I can't adopt it.
Bugs have feelings also, they have nerves and feel pain.  Yet we kill them
without any remorse.  THEY ARE ANIMALS...heh, this is getting old..I am not
going to be converted to veganism..and until someone with money and power
develops something better for the environment nothing will change
either..that is the facts please refer to my liner notes.
If you believe in everything Moby says then fine..I appreciate that.
But don't treat me like hey this kid is ignorant I should refer him to what
moby says..I am saying my opinions because I BELIEVE THEM.
I appreciate moby for his music...but it is like cause I don't agree with
moby then I am a bastard nazi.  Heh, all I know if ya wanna try to be like
moby, then don't compare me to a nazi, because I know he certain wouldn't do
that.  If ya squash ants and kill mosquitos and roaches..then you are just
as bad as me.  THE BUGS FEEL PAIN DAMMIT.  FOR THE LOVE OF GOD please end
this vegan thing, because it's obvious I don't agree with you.
A perfectly happy meat eater,
Chris




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby's Porno Flick
Date: 09 Nov 1999 15:53:53 EST


I seem to remember to little blubs about Moby doing a movie about porno,
called Porno (this is what happens when you subscribe to entertainment news
via e-mail ~ lots of little blurbs with no follow-up).. Anyway, I went back
to reread it and it said that it was supposed to be submitted to Sundance in
the beginning of October... Anyone know how it went?  The image of Moby
playing guitar with 2 dildos strapped to his head is just way to bizarre for
me....  And leave it to Moby to go into a super odd movie, nothing mainstream
for him....  Still....  I will have to muster up all of my devotion to even
attempt to see the flick...  Anyone know anything else about it?



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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) FWD: Moby news
Date: 09 Nov 1999 23:02:11 -0700

yeah i live in tucson... where did this news come from?  desert sky is the
venue?  hmm... tickets through ticketmaster?  why is he coming back????

plov
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:47 AM


> > >Hey I heard on the radio this morning that Moby is coming again. But he
is
> > >playing with a bunch of retarded bands. Its like in mid or late
December at
> > >Desert Sky. It's some christmas with no snow festival they are calling
it. SO
> > >the other bands that I remember were Blink 182, and 311 heheheh 311
nasty.
> > >What do you think is possesing moby to play with those 2 bands. I think
like
> > >2 other bands were mentioned but I don't remember whe they were. SO I
just
> > >thought I would let you know. Desert Sky is kinda lame and I don't know
how
> > >much it would be. SO what else. I don't know. That's all........ed
>
> My best friend sent me this.  So if any one else lives in AZ, here ya go.
I
> agree w/ her though, I mean, common 311?
>
> Hey, how many ppl on the list *do* live in AZ?  I think Michaela (sp?)
lives here
> in Tucson.  Anyone else?
>
> --kimby
>
>
>




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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) FWD: Moby news
Date: 09 Nov 1999 23:05:41 -0700

looks like that it's for the edge radio station.

the date is 12/13/99.  tickets go on the sale the 13th of this month and can
be purchased through ticketmaster.  pricing is currently not available.

here is the web link for info:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/cgi/tm2k_by_id_FS.idc?event_id=1E002F64B9F479BB%
26searchname%3DBLINK_182%26minorcat%3D31%26state%3DAZ%26majorcat%3D

hope that helps anyone... think i will definitely go to this one.  saw him
at nile theatre, would love to see him in an open arena!

plov


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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:47 AM


> > >Hey I heard on the radio this morning that Moby is coming again. But he
is
> > >playing with a bunch of retarded bands. Its like in mid or late
December at
> > >Desert Sky. It's some christmas with no snow festival they are calling
it. SO
> > >the other bands that I remember were Blink 182, and 311 heheheh 311
nasty.
> > >What do you think is possesing moby to play with those 2 bands. I think
like
> > >2 other bands were mentioned but I don't remember whe they were. SO I
just
> > >thought I would let you know. Desert Sky is kinda lame and I don't know
how
> > >much it would be. SO what else. I don't know. That's all........ed
>
> My best friend sent me this.  So if any one else lives in AZ, here ya go.
I
> agree w/ her though, I mean, common 311?
>
> Hey, how many ppl on the list *do* live in AZ?  I think Michaela (sp?)
lives here
> in Tucson.  Anyone else?
>
> --kimby
>
>
>




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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Sailin' On
Date: 10 Nov 1999 11:14:36 +0100

Got the Bad Brains tribute CD yesterday!

Sailin' On by Moby is simply GREAT!!! but I don't
understand why this beautiful tranquil song is on
a Metal album, the other 18 songs are all banging
guitars and screaming voices from artists like Skinlab,
Ignite, Ryker's, Sepultura and Turmoil...

Moby sings the vocals for Sailin' On himself and I must
say they does it better than on any song on Play!
I wonder how the original from the Bad Brains sounds,
because Moby turns this song into a gentil little broken
hearted love song.
I also like the lyrics: (kind of Porcelain-like!)
==========================
You don't want me anymore
I'll just walk right out that door
Play the game right from the start
I trust you, you use me, now my heart's all torn apart

I'm salin', I'm salin on
And Movin', oh movin' on
Sail on, sail on...
==========================
(these are not the complete lyrics)
The music kind of reminds me of Everloving.
Oh, this Bad Brains Tribute CD isn't in the
discography yet, but I'll get right on that :)

Oh, and would you guys please stop attacking
eachother on that 'eating meat' thing? Thanks.

Bart
http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/
np: Skinlab - The messengers







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From: The Nelson Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Playing JBmix at school
Date: 10 Nov 1999 15:01:10 -0500

At 07:08 PM 11/9/99 +0100, you wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 12:34:05PM -0500, nelson-family wrote:
>
>> I am proud to anounce that i will be playing the Moby James Bond mix at my
>> school!  I convinced the faculty to let me(some how) anyway i will be using
>> a BOSS dr202 Dr.Sample, Boss Dr660 drum machine a yamaha electric
>> cello(suprise!)and a zeta electric violin.
>Wow.. that sounds cool... That reminded me a version of Kraftwerk's
>"We are the robots", performed by a string quartet... Most amazing was
>the cellos (I swear) that seemed to pronounce that "We are the
>robots".. My skin always get chickenish when I listen to it.
>
>> Ill be covered in wires and
>> other junk at the performance from all the equipment.  Anyone got
>> anysuggestions on how to make this performance better?
>I'd like to get to listen to it...
>
>By the way, and (more or less) talking about versions... Do you know
>if there has been any strings version of some Moby song ? I'd like the
>guys that recorded Kraftwerk's do the same with some Moby's...
>
>
>--
>Jonathan Ruano Pach                Email: <[e-mail]>
>ICQ:1252101 AIM:Tlabok IRC:Kobalt  Homepage: http://www.encomix.es/~jonah
>
>I really dont know.  I had played the origonal version of JB and it gave
me the idea to do this.  you could probably transpose some music of moby's,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) New compilation
Date: 10 Nov 1999 17:01:52 EST

Joy!  Just did a search of Moby on Amazon and it shows that there's a new
release on November 23 (same day as Mr. Beck) called What the Funk You
Waiting For?  Sadly, there is no track listings... ANyone know what song is
going to be on?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) New compilation
Date: 10 Nov 1999 17:40:14 EST

i believe it is Porcelain and it comes out in Spain or something....there is
some info on Moby.org......



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From: "nelson-family" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mobility (home studio)
Date: 10 Nov 1999 21:35:41 -0500

anyone else out there got a home recording studio? sorry this is kinda off
topic. I would like to have someone to get advice from, and talk about
equipment.  Also i heard about a new moby relese soon, is this the Play
remix album, or another one?




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) MOBY in Paper magazine!!!
Date: 10 Nov 1999 22:30:29 EST

Ok guys listen up!

I just got the Paper magazine because Moby was on the cover and the article
about him.  There is an article about his new album, Play, and the success
that its had since its been released.  As I read the article, i came across
something that was sort of weird to me.  There is a picture of him and at the
bottom it says, Moby wears a top by Prada.  what the heck is that all about?
Anyways the article says that Moby will be posing for Calvin Klein ads along
with other celebrities.  What is going on here? I don't know about this but
then as i kept reading on he says that the money he made from these ads will
be going to charity.

Well folks I'm sure many of you are going to make comments about this.  A lot
of you might be thinking that Moby is going commercial but maybe the article
should be read before you guys start with the comments about this.

As far as I'm concerned, I love Moby's music and I love the man for being so
brilliant in dishing out such sounds.  I feel that Moby's music is really
important to me and it makes me happy.  As long as he keeps making his music
that is all I really care about and Moby's health of course!  =)

Marisa



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Mobility (home studio)
Date: 23 Dec 1999 23:00:48 -0800

I got a home studio and study audio recording.  So I should have some kinda
of answer for any questions you ask :P
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of nelson-family
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:36 PM


anyone else out there got a home recording studio? sorry this is kinda off
topic. I would like to have someone to get advice from, and talk about
equipment.  Also i heard about a new moby relese soon, is this the Play
remix album, or another one?




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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) (home studio)
Date: 11 Nov 1999 04:38:25 GMT

>anyone else out there got a home recording studio? sorry this is kinda off
>topic. I would like to have someone to get advice from, and talk about
>equipment.  Also i heard about a new moby relese soon, is this the Play
>remix album, or another one?


i have a little setup i use, i can try and help you out...
-alex

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility (home studio)
Date: 11 Nov 1999 01:52:04 EST


 hey,

       i've got a bit of a studio compiled.the one thing i've noticed though
is that not matter how much i get it never seems like enough.


          spaz



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Subject: (mobility)studios
Date: 11 Nov 1999 08:33:31 -0500

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glad to hear other people have set ups.  Anyone got any suggestions =
where i can find a manual for a DR-660 drum machine, i got it used, no =
manual.
Also, in regards to getting Moby for strings-
1 it will be more difficult to write depending on what you play, for =
example, sax, youll have to first write out the music, and chances are =
transpose it.
if anyone out there does have scores for any Moby,please tell me.
2 another way is for certain songs of his, like When I Reach For My =
Revolver, you can find the origonal guitar tabs, back up parts, and then =
rewrite them to fit in with Moby's version.  This is how I will be doing =
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY in Paper magazine!!!
Date: 11 Nov 1999 10:26:56 EST

In a message dated 11/10/1999 7:32:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Well folks I'm sure many of you are going to make comments about this.  A
lot
 of you might be thinking that Moby is going commercial but maybe the article
 should be read before you guys start with the comments about this.
 >>

Not really.. I read the article last week and it didn't bother me at all....
Didn't see the Prada thing, but I seriously doubt it was his.. Probably the
photographer thought it'd be cool or something.   Moby just doesn't seem the
Prada type of guy.....  But that's just my opinon of course..  But I
seriously enjoyed the article and his little blurb in the expectations for
the future which we've already commented on.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #26
Date: 11 Nov 1999 10:57:21 EST

I live in Tempe. AZ and I happen to be a 311 fan and also a blink 182 fan so
don't diss them. ha just kidding speak your mind what the hell do I care.
it's your opinion.
Im going to try and get tickets but it just bought Rage tickets too. so I
will have to see how much they are going to cost.  They did advertise moby
with Bodyrock in the background. whoah how original is that?


outts with the shouts
"Who was before God, or was he just always there? and if so who was before
that guy or girl?"

-SUn



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Sailin' On
Date: 11 Nov 1999 8:40:27 -0800

<<Sailin' On by Moby is simply GREAT!!! but I don't
understand why this beautiful tranquil song is on a Metal album, the other 18=20=
songs are all banging guitars and screaming voices from artists like Skinlab,
Ignite, Ryker's, Sepultura and Turmoil=2E=2E=2E >>

Actually the original version of Sailin' On
was "banging guitars"

Moby was probably the only one to rearrange a song


Deemo




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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) NR(home studio)
Date: 11 Nov 1999 17:06:31 GMT


>        i've got a bit of a studio compiled.the one thing i've noticed
>though
>is that not matter how much i get it never seems like enough.


i know EXACTLY what you're talking about...after spending precious money on
this great equipment...i almost sold it all so that i could get better
stuff.  i need to stay off ebay.  =o)

-alex

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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) NRstudios
Date: 11 Nov 1999 17:15:12 GMT

i'm guessing the 660 is by boss/roland; and if that's the case you can buy
an original manual from rolandusa's superstore...can't remember the exact
www addy, but if you put www.roland.com and then click on roland usa and
then on superstore you'll find it.  if it's not there i recommend
www.drummachine.com-that site rocks.

the dr-660 is a little high tech for me...most of my stuff is analogue.  got
a keyboard from 85, a drummachine from 86, a sequencer from 87...the only
thing that isn't older than ghostbusters 2 is my korg electribe a, which i
got this year-and it jams hardcore i might add.

-alex

>glad to hear other people have set ups.  Anyone got any suggestions where i
>can find a manual for a DR-660 drum machine, i got it used, no manual.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 11 Nov 1999 15:42:50 EST

ANYONE LIVING IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA GOING TO ENGAGE...SPECIICALLY PEOPLE
IN NYC AND NORTHERN NEW JERSEY..
I WANTED TO GO...PERHAPS WE CAN GET LIKE A CARAVAN GOING...



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From: natalie leblanc <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 11 Nov 1999 13:20:08 -0800 (PST)

hey, i'm in nyc and interested.  when is it?

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> ANYONE LIVING IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA GOING TO
> ENGAGE...SPECIICALLY PEOPLE
> IN NYC AND NORTHERN NEW JERSEY..
> I WANTED TO GO...PERHAPS WE CAN GET LIKE A CARAVAN
> GOING...
>
>


=====

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 11 Nov 1999 17:55:18 EST

november 27th..it's from 12-12..should be lots of fun...elie



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From: "nelson-family" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mobility(turntables)
Date: 11 Nov 1999 19:03:54 -0500

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Hey, for my home studio i picked up my grandfathers old DUAL turntable, =
for some reason it wont work.  Does anyone have ANY turntable that they =
want to sell cheap? now i cant even repair the old one(the cartridge =
mount is broken), and he wont give me his nice technics one

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Alesis drum machine
Date: 11 Nov 1999 19:39:19 EST

i have an Alesis drum machine for sale...i know this is not moby related but
i kind of want to sell it....E-mail me privately so i can tell more about
it..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 11 Nov 1999 22:11:26 EST

I live in the Metropoliton area.... Whats this I hear bout Moby? When? What
time? He he!!!!

                                                     ~Felicia



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 11 Nov 1999 22:13:15 EST

In a message dated 11/11/99 9:12:33 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I live in the Metropoliton area.... Whats this I hear bout Moby? When?
What
 time? He he!!!!

                                                      ~Felicia >>
One more question... How can I get tix?!?!

                                                      ~Felicia



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 11 Nov 1999 22:55:06 EST

there is a page..someone e-mailed the list with info on it but i accidentally
deleted it....i really wanted to try to get some people to go together..it's
phat cuz it's a day and part of the nite thing as opposed to the whole
nite...elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)studios
Date: 12 Nov 1999 01:57:36 EST



 about the dr-660 contact the manufacturer.they usually have all catalogs
available for back order,for a nominal fee.Or start checking music sites that
people have put up.they sometimes have catalogs on .pdf

 -spaz



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)studios
Date: 12 Nov 1999 02:28:39 EST

  on the topic of studios i thought I'd rattle off my kit list. just for
kicks and jollies.
fostex 424 mixing board
tascam 424 4trk recorder(this number keeps popping up?)
realistic concertmate 990(a good cheap keyboard,as well as a good controller)
Yamaha djx(it's a fun toy to be sure)
DR 202(some good presets,but i find it a bit sticky to program)
SP 202(in a word crap,any one recommend a better sampler under $800?)
Roland SC 880 rackmount synth(just beautiful,really)
alesis nanocompressor(for what it does can't beat the price)
one computer(obviously)w/ acid DJ,acid music,sound forge 4.5,fruity loops(i
highly recommend this program),cakewalk home studio 6(eewww)and an awe64 gold
 -
by the by I'm looking to get a good hardware sequencer,any other suggestions
would be appreciated.
 -spaz



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From: "Carl Jacobson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) (home studio)
Date: 12 Nov 1999 09:14:28 -0500

I also have a setup and I'll be happy to give some advice.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of alex
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:38 PM


>anyone else out there got a home recording studio? sorry this is kinda off
>topic. I would like to have someone to get advice from, and talk about
>equipment.  Also i heard about a new moby relese soon, is this the Play
>remix album, or another one?


i have a little setup i use, i can try and help you out...
-alex

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From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 12 Nov 1999 06:59:53 -0800 (PST)

i emailed awhile ago with all the information about
engage. it's at the DC Armory on 11/27, you can get
tickets at a buch of record stores or through ticket
master. if you want to know what specific stores,
times, or want to talk about a meetig place you can
email me... *freyja*
[e-mail]

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> there is a page..someone e-mailed the list with info
> on it but i accidentally
> deleted it....i really wanted to try to get some
> people to go together..it's
> phat cuz it's a day and part of the nite thing as
> opposed to the whole
> nite...elie
>
>

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From: "Russell, Shera" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 12 Nov 1999 10:05:38 -0500

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I have tickets to see Moby at Rechre Theatre, a smaller venue in Towson,
Maryland on Thanksgiving night (w/Lo Fidelity Allstars).  This show is
cheaper and closer to where I live.  Engage will be held at the DC Armory
again this year with an expected attendance of 10,000 people.  Last year
6,000 people attended.  It should be a great time.  Maybe I can scrap some $
up to go to this show as well and meet some of the Mobility members.  Any
other information you need for Engage such as directions, bus trips, hotels
in the area, set times, etc. can be found at http://ultraworld.com, click on
upcoming shows and Voila!  Have fun!

Peace, Shera :)
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In a message dated 11/11/99 9:12:33 PM Central Standard Time,
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<< I live in the Metropoliton area.... Whats this I hear bout Moby? When?
What
 time? He he!!!!

                                                      ~Felicia >>
One more question... How can I get tix?!?!

                                                      ~Felicia


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have tickets to see Moby at Rechre Theatre, a smaller v=
enue in Towson, Maryland on Thanksgiving night (w/Lo Fidelity Allstars).&nb=
sp; This show is cheaper and closer to where I live.  Engage will be h=
eld at the DC Armory again this year with an expected attendance of 10,000 =
people.  Last year 6,000 people attended.  It should be a great t=
ime.  Maybe I can scrap some $ up to go to this show as well and meet =
some of the Mobility members.  Any other information you need for Enga=
ge such as directions, bus trips, hotels in the area, set times, etc. can b=
e found at <A HREF=3D"http://ultraworld.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://ultra=
world.com</A>, click on upcoming shows and Voila!  Have fun!</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Peace, Shera :)</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:13 PM</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 11/11/99 9:12:33 PM Central Standard T=
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2><< I live in the Metropoliton area.... Whats this I=
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From: "Aleksandra Maria Czajka" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:12:45 EST
Date: 12 Nov 1999 10:12:50 -0700

Name: Aleksandra Czajka
Age: 18
I currently have 5 of Moby's CDs, including PLAY, which rocks the joint.
I first heard of Moby not too long ago.  By the end of August he was playing
in Boston and I went to his free concert.
Other interesting info:  I like Moby not only because of his music, but also
because of his views on life, animal rights, etc. Like him I'm also a vegan
+ I'm majoring in public policy.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Engage...MOBY
Date: 12 Nov 1999 12:30:51 EST

at this point, i'm trying to get some people to go..not certain if i'm going
yet...elie



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From: danny legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby came and gone
Date: 12 Nov 1999 10:21:32 -0700

So Moby's show in Vancouver got announced and cancelled the very same day.

Anybody can help me out here?

I'm about to call the promoter....

Laters-
Danny





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby and Beasties
Date: 12 Nov 1999 15:12:19 -0800

This Sunday's Los Angeles TIMES Calendar section will report
the following:

"The Beastie Boys and Moby are trading remixes, with the rap trio set to
mess around with a track (still undetermined) from Moby's acclaimed 'Play'
album and the techno philosopher reworking the Beasties' new single 'Alive'
Moby says the trade is straight-up with no cash changing hands and no DJ to
be named later"

Deemo





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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Looking Back
Date: 12 Nov 1999 15:15:13 PST

I posted this @ http:/clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/mobyfans yesterday, but since
things are slow both here and there I thought I'd post this to mobility as
well, and hopefully get some Moby conversation going.

By the way, the reason I was playing "Go" for Tom was because he didn't
believe me that the original version of Go had no Twin Peaks sample in it.

------------

My friend Tom was surprised to learn that "Go" had originally been a b-side
for "Mobility". I played him the original and he liked it, and was impressed
that Moby had been so many 'different' artists on Instinct's lineup. He had
a Messiah 12" with him that was also an early Instinct record, and it's
called "Temple Of Dreams." I quite like it, although the intro sounds very
dated. The vocals are very nice, for lack of a better description. Check it
out if you get the chance.

Also, I was showing him Play and he saw the V2 survey card that came w/ it,
my receipt (June 1st) and my ticket stub from the Play tour. (and the
autograph on the cover :) He remarked (being a European, Polish actually)
that Moby plays bigger venues in Europe. I showed him the picture in ILTS,
and out fell my ticket stub from December 1997. Ah, memories. :)

----------

The Messiah record was released on Instinct's 'Kickin' imprint, although the
Instinct hand logo is also present on it.

-Steve


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Looking Back (Messiah!)
Date: 12 Nov 1999 20:55:30 EST

In a message dated 99-11-12 18:16:09 EST, you write:

<< He had
 a Messiah 12" with him that was also an early Instinct record, and it's
 called "Temple Of Dreams." I quite like it, although the intro sounds very
 dated. The vocals are very nice, for lack of a better description. Check it
 out if you get the chance. >>


yes, messiah!  i recommend all of you to listen to their '21st century jesus'
album which was just re-issued last year.  if you're a hardcore moby fan,
like me, you won't be disappointed for the most part.  i agree, the vocals in
'temple of dreams' and 'i feel love' are very nice..  their other hard techno
tracks are great too.  but i never knew they were apart of instinct back
then... it's interesting looking back at it now having been exposed to moby
and messiah at the same time.  anyways, i wonder what they're up to now.  did
they change their name to 'messiah presents progenitor' or something?

later,
-tina



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From: Javiera P Gallardo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) new member
Date: 12 Nov 1999 20:55:41 -0500

 doing my "homework" as a new member

1- name: javi
2- age:18
3- moby collection: i only own play for now
4- first heard of moby at the spring HFStival in balitmore
5- i'm also a fan of silverchair
6- i'm looking forward to seeing moby with low-fidelity allstars at the
recher theater on thanksgiving day
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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mobey?
Date: 13 Nov 1999 06:07:33 -0800 (PST)


okay this looks like shit but i notice they refer to a
mobile phone as a "mobey". see it down there? thats
funny.

don't worry, ill say something related soon, just
cruisin thru my emails and i noticed that.


> SOLID GOLD EASY ACTION!
> Xmas smash? You heard it here first
>
>   Mobile phone-bashing mystery band set to tear up
> the Xmas charts
>   with the fiendishly catchy 'I Wanna 1-2-1 With
> You'
>
>   Ever experienced phone rage? You know, you're
> sitting, minding your
>   own business on the bus, and some suit with a
> mobile invades your
>   personal space with endless yakking...and his
> mobey's irritating
>   ring, ring, ring
>
> Well Solid Gold Chart Busters know how yoou feel.
> They've been there,
> bought the t-shirt and now, also, recorded the
> single!
>
> 'I Wanna 1-2-1 With You'(out Dec 6) is set to be
> this year's mega
> monster big tune of Christmas...love it or hate it,
> you will not be
> able to ESCAPE it!!
>
> We're previewing it right here, right now on Sneaky
> Peeks cos we love
> it and it makes us smile...the wise money's on a
> Christmas number 1 for
> this crew so check it out now...
>

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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!
Date: 13 Nov 1999 06:45:21 -0800 (PST)


AMP will be on at 3 am on november 14, thats
>>>3HREE<<< AM. not 2wo am like usual. the next 2
weeks will be on at 2 am. at least they told us ahead
of time this time!

PLAYLIST:

Moby: Bodyrock 3
Wiseguys: Ooh La La Version 2
Mr. Scruff:Honeydew
Moby:Run On
Westbam:Sonic Empire
Chems:Out Of Control
Richie Hawtin:Minus Orange
DJ Rap:Good To Be Alive
Leftfield:Afrika Shox (do you need a hand? *shudder*)
Jungle Brothers:Get Down (ROCK!)



also, i got the Matador 3cd anthology thingy
"Everything Is Nice" silly title, but it kinda clashes
with the title of one of my fave albums ever but
anyway it includes the entire Matador catalog EVER in
here, and heres some info you might wanna know about
the Jon Spencer Experimental Remixes, which Moby
contributed  to. Its catalog number is OLE-111? ok,
well it was first released on 5/23/95 on 12" and CDEP.
the original version of the CDEP is out of print
however. it was reissued on 6/23/95 on CDEP,
remastered w/different tracks, with the same catalog
number. then on 7/20/95 it was re-remasteres again, w/
different tracks, again only on CDEP, same catalog #.
anybody know if the Moby mixes are on some editions
but not others? just in case anyone cares, theres also
ann out of print JSBX 7" called "Bellbottoms" with the
same catalog number, OLE-111, released 2/14/95.

i highly recomend this Matador 3cd comp thingy.
amazinng shit from Cat Power (wow, truly stunning, its
cool that Moby is down with them too!) and JSBX
Pavement Jega GBV!!! Sleater Kinney Pizzicato 5 (a
charmingly weird track called "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Barbie Dolls" i love them but after listening to them
i wonder, what the hell is up with them? seriously?)
plu Solex and Yo La Tengo and some new groups like
Void and Wisdom of Harry and Arsonists and Non Phixion
that we'll hear more from later no doubt.

also, I'm totally obsessed with Futurama now for some
reason. i'll not go on about this right now, i gotta
go.

"Bender, are you jacking on in there?"
PHIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ





o

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From: The Nelson Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)studios
Date: 13 Nov 1999 12:14:34 -0500

At 02:28 AM 11/12/99 EST, you wrote:
>  on the topic of studios i thought I'd rattle off my kit list. just for
>kicks and jollies.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>------------------------------------------
>fostex 424 mixing board
>tascam 424 4trk recorder(this number keeps popping up?)
>realistic concertmate 990(a good cheap keyboard,as well as a good controller)
>Yamaha djx(it's a fun toy to be sure)
>DR 202(some good presets,but i find it a bit sticky to program)
>SP 202(in a word crap,any one recommend a better sampler under $800?)
>Roland SC 880 rackmount synth(just beautiful,really)
>alesis nanocompressor(for what it does can't beat the price)
>one computer(obviously)w/ acid DJ,acid music,sound forge 4.5,fruity loops(i
>highly recommend this program),cakewalk home studio 6(eewww)and an awe64 gold
> -
>by the by I'm looking to get a good hardware sequencer,any other suggestions
>would be appreciated.
> -spaz
>
>Whats wrong with the sp 202, i have one and i think it works fine. it has
good sound quality, nice effects.  Honestly a rack mount would be better,
but i quite like th3e machine.  I dont know if your a fan of his music or
not, but, Fat Boyslim(norman cook) uses one of these things.  Ive seen it
in a photo of his studio, and Norman has amassed 16 thousand pounds off his
music




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From: The Nelson Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new member
Date: 13 Nov 1999 12:18:46 -0500

At 08:55 PM 11/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
> doing my "homework" as a new member
>
>1- name: javi
>2- age:18
>3- moby collection: i only own play for now
>4- first heard of moby at the spring HFStival in balitmore
>5- i'm also a fan of silverchair
>6- i'm looking forward to seeing moby with low-fidelity allstars at the
>recher theater on thanksgiving day
>___________________________________________________________________
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>I wish i had gone to the spring HFStival, i went to the fall one, that
rocked.  I was going with my friend to see MOBY on thanksgiving, but
instead i have to see relatives. ho hum




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From: The Nelson Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)studios
Date: 13 Nov 1999 12:27:55 -0500

At 02:28 AM 11/12/99 EST, you wrote:
>  on the topic of studios i thought I'd rattle off my kit list. just for
>kicks and jollies.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>------------------------------------------
>fostex 424 mixing board
>tascam 424 4trk recorder(this number keeps popping up?)
>realistic concertmate 990(a good cheap keyboard,as well as a good controller)
>Yamaha djx(it's a fun toy to be sure)
>DR 202(some good presets,but i find it a bit sticky to program)
>SP 202(in a word crap,any one recommend a better sampler under $800?)
>Roland SC 880 rackmount synth(just beautiful,really)
>alesis nanocompressor(for what it does can't beat the price)
>one computer(obviously)w/ acid DJ,acid music,sound forge 4.5,fruity loops(i
>highly recommend this program),cakewalk home studio 6(eewww)and an awe64 gold
> -
>by the by I'm looking to get a good hardware sequencer,any other suggestions
>would be appreciated.
> -spaz
>
>Also, if you get rid of that sampler do you have any smart media cards
your willing to sell.  For your new sampler stay away from yamaha, unless
your willing to spend an additional 200 bucks for the TYPHOON OS, the one
it comes with is really bad.  People have lost and not been able to edit
samples on the origonal OS.  You dont have the fruity loops actual MACHINE
do yo?




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) new member
Date: 13 Nov 1999 13:34:27 EST

In a message dated 11/13/99 12:21:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<
 At 08:55 PM 11/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
 > doing my "homework" as a new member
 >
 >1- name: javi
 >2- age:18
 >3- moby collection: i only own play for now
 >4- first heard of moby at the spring HFStival in balitmore
 >5- i'm also a fan of silverchair
 >6- i'm looking forward to seeing moby with low-fidelity allstars at the
 >recher theater on thanksgiving day
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 >I wish i had gone to the spring HFStival, i went to the fall one, that
 rocked.  I was going with my friend to see MOBY on thanksgiving, but
 instead i have to see relatives. ho hum
  >>
I saw him at the Hfstival...he was awesome...I am going to see him at Recher
too i can't wait!



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) reverb!
Date: 13 Nov 1999 10:36:48 -0800 (PST)


hey i saw  a commerical for Reverb on Prevue guide and
it had Moby doing Honey  live at the end! it was a
kinda housey upbeat mix, with Moby screaming like
Animal from the Muppets on top, something about
LLOVE!!! of course. bye!

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From: MOBY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Date: 13 Nov 1999 00:27:40 EST


hi.  i'm currently in adelaide australia and
it's sunny and hot and people are walking
around and it's a beautiful saturday afternoon
and for some reason i find beautiful saturday
afternoon's to be sort of depressing.  oh well.
i heard from someone that there are rumours that
i'm a smoker.  not true.  i don't smoke anything.
not cigarettes.  not pot.  not geraniums.  nothing.
and this tour that i'm on looks poised to go
on for a long
long
long
time.  possibly until next september.  long, huh.
let's see, any actual information...
next single is 'natural blues' with remixes
by deep dish & paul oakenfold.  i wonder if 'natural
blues' will get played on the radio in the u.s.
i can't really imagine it inbetween limp bizkit
and metallica...
speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
component to their music and i find it to be truly
awful and offensive.  misogyny is just as offensive
as racism, homphobia, anti-semitism, etc.
o.k, i'll get off my soapbox.  there's nice music
playing here and i have to go and find out if it's
a band or a cd.
hoping you're all well.
love
moby

p.s-whenever possible i try to play all-ages or 18 and
over shows.  i apologize if for some reason i end up
playing a 21 and over show.


>>> This email comes from MOBY, forwarded by the list owner.
>>> The address has been altered... do not reply to it!
>>> Damian <[e-mail]>



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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) NR boss sp-202
Date: 13 Nov 1999 19:02:22 GMT

>Whats wrong with the sp 202, i have one and i think it works fine. >it has
>good sound quality, nice effects.  Honestly a rack mount >would be better,
>but i quite like th3e machine.

as i'm a struggling studio musician looking for a cheap sampler, i've been
looking at this unit...what are the pros and cons?  i know it only has midi
in, that's a big strike...
this guy in a record store told me to get aything worthwhile i'd have to
spend about $500 on a sampler-obviously he hasn't seen my studio cuz there
isn't a damn thing in it that's over $350 (and that includes my korg
electribe a).  if you hate the sp-202, and want to lose it, quote me a price
and i'll see what i can muster $ wise.

-alex

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny?
Date: 13 Nov 1999 21:40:15 +0100

Moby wrote
>i heard from someone that there are rumours that
>i'm a smoker.  not true.  i don't smoke anything.
>not cigarettes.  not pot.  not geraniums.  nothing.


I knew it!

>next single is 'natural blues' with remixes
>by deep dish & paul oakenfold.

Yummy!!
Mmm, less mainstream as ATB and Ferry
Corsten.  Allthough I wonder how a garage
(Deep Dish) remix of Natural Blues would
sound like...

>speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
>by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
>all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
>korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
>component to their music and i find it to be truly
>awful and offensive.  misogyny is just as offensive
>as racism, homphobia, anti-semitism, etc.

Oh Moby, please have mercy on us non-US/UK Mobility
members! :)  What does misogyny mean? I can't find it
in my English=>Dutch vocabulary, can anybody please
tell me what it means? Thanks
Well, I think I agree with mr. Hall here because I also
don't like the groups mentioned above, but then again
I find most mainstream and semi underground music
of the past 2 years to be disappointing... (exceptions
like Moby, Faithless, Air and some others not included)

(<>,,<>) http://www.geocities/animal_sight/
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!
Date: 13 Nov 1999 16:07:57 EST

amp on at 3 not 2,is that eastern time, or central?



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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny?
Date: 13 Nov 1999 21:27:59 GMT

What does misogyny mean?


misogyny is treating a female like crap because she's a female...and he's
right, it's very prevalent in today's pop culture (always has been).  it
doesn't seem like bands like limp bizkit and god knows how many others are
going to go away anytime soon.  which sucks, because amidst all their fame
and popularity, with moby's inclusion into this popular mainstream only
means his subsequent inclusion in the said stereotype so many fall into.

-alex

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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) misogyny? - WAR AGAINST INTELLIGENCE
Date: 13 Nov 1999 21:55:08 +0000

This rise of Jerk Rock frightens me. It's cool to be dumb. The most
self-expression kids will grow up learning is muthafugga and a finger.
The War Against Intelligence is raging. Which side are you on? The
Inarticulate Ape or the Evolved man?
>
>misogyny is treating a female like crap because she's a female...and he's
>right, it's very prevalent in today's pop culture (always has been).  it
>doesn't seem like bands like limp bizkit and god knows how many others are
>going to go away anytime soon.  which sucks, because amidst all their fame
>and popularity, with moby's inclusion into this popular mainstream only
>means his subsequent inclusion in the said stereotype so many fall into.

--
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Date: 13 Nov 1999 16:37:23 EST

In a message dated 11/13/99 1:56:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
 by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
 all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
 korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
 component to their music and i find it to be truly
 awful and offensive.  misogyny is just as offensive
 as racism, homphobia, anti-semitism, etc. >>

yes, it is awful.. misogyny means hatred of women, btw..  it's just so odd
how all of these groups just seem to be sprouting up everywhere now..  the
weird thing is that their fans don't seem realize that misogynistic component
attached to the music... not to mention mtv who did a wonderful job of
exposing them to death.

later,
-tina



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST
Date: 13 Nov 1999 14:43:41 -0700

>
> >>speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
> >>by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
> >>all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
> >>korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
> >>component to their music and i find it to be
> truly                                                    >>awful and
> offensive.  misogyny is just as
> offensive                                                 >as racism,
> homphobia, anti-semitism, etc.

>
> >What does misogyny mean?  can anybody please
> >tell me what it means?
>

Misogyny is like, a hatred towards women or derogatory statments towards
women or of offense to women, right?  Well, I agree that some musicians
are mysoginistic but I don't think all those artists are that bad about
it.  A lot of music is disrespectful towards women and it's not exactly
right to disrespect women, ppl of color, different sexual orientation
etc but I don't totally agree that it's bad.

I mean, it's *bad* to have a negative attitude towards women, ppl of
color, gays etc however I think it's unhealthy and unrealistic for those
views to never be represented.  How boring would it be for every song to
be about love and cars and money and God only knows what but to not have
songs about rape or hatred?  They exist.  But it *is* the artists job to
say "OK, this is a song about gang raping a girl...burning crosses in
yards or gay bashing and it's wrong to do those things but it does
happen and you should know that it's wrong to do those things and I'm
not saying you should go out and do it.  It doesn't make you a hero in
my book or anyone else's but it is real." Or maybe to say "I've done
this and I'm not proud of it and I want you to know that it's a dark
thing and a shameful thing that I'm not proud of but it's real and maybe
knowing that it happens you can protect yourself from it happening to
you, you doing it or being harmed by it.  It's not right but it happens
so don't do it."

 And it's not only men to have disrespectful songs about women...one of
the weirdest songs I've ever heard was a punk song from a lesbian band
talking about raping a girl in the ladies bathroom.  Maybe if these ppl
get out all that rage and hatred they have, it will keep them from
acting on it and maybe show ppl that it's really not good to have those
kinds of attitudes and to not act on feelings of anger or violence on
women, ppl of color or gays.

There is a world of feelings, good and bad and actions good and bad.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if everything were safe and every one loved
each other?  It would be but it's not realistic.  Human's will make
descions that are wrong and right but they have to atone for their own
sins and it's important that ppl be made aware that these are real
things to not get involved in.  Does any one agree or am I just rambling
on and on?

--kimby





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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny? LONGISH POST II
Date: 13 Nov 1999 14:51:45 -0700

> >misogyny is treating a female like crap because she's a female...and he's
> >right, it's very prevalent in today's pop culture (always has been).  it
> >doesn't seem like bands like limp bizkit and god knows how many others are
> >going to go away anytime soon.  which sucks, because amidst all their fame
> >and popularity, with moby's inclusion into this popular mainstream only
> >means his subsequent inclusion in the said stereotype so many fall into.
>

I don't condone the thoughts expressed by Kid Rock or Limp Bizkit (which I
can't stand) but ppl no matter who they are get treated like crap.  It's
wrong.  I don't think that it should be totally shouldered by these ppl
though.  They ARE responsible for what they say and do but it is also parents
responsibility to make sure they're kids either don't get ahold of music like
that or that they understand that homophobia is wrong, misongyny is wrong and
racism is wrong.  It's the media's responsibility to express to it's viewers
that those are unacceptable attitudes.  Ppl will write that crap but no body
has to play it or buy it.  So we can start by not buying it, not requesting it
and talking to other ppl about it.  It's everyone's responsibility to make
sure that the children who don't know better that those are unaceptable
attitudes to have.  And the ppl who wrote that stuff, they are as much a
product of our irresponsible society as the children who buy their music.  I'm
not saying to pity them because they had hard lives but to realize if we keep
letting children hear these things and not understand that it's wrong, we're
going to keep creating Limp Bizkit, year after year.  They were kids and our
society failed them by at some point saying "It's ok to rape, to hate and to
steal.  It's ok because ppl do it on tv, on the radio and adults do it on the
streets.  You can do it too."  No, that's not acceptable.  I would not allow
any child of mine to get away w/ murder so what makes other parents, friends
and adults do it?  We are all responsible.

Ok, I'm stepping off the soap box, I'm now returning you to your regular
email.

--kimby

>
>




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Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
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From: "nelson-family" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny?
Date: 13 Nov 1999 17:14:08 -0500


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 4:27 PM


> What does misogyny mean?
>
>
> misogyny is treating a female like crap because she's a female...and he's
> right, it's very prevalent in today's pop culture (always has been).  it
> doesn't seem like bands like limp bizkit and god knows how many others are
> going to go away anytime soon.  which sucks, because amidst all their fame
> and popularity, with moby's inclusion into this popular mainstream only
> means his subsequent inclusion in the said stereotype so many fall into.
>
> -alex
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> Honestly i dont see any of this in korn, i am a fan, but am still trying
to look at it from a non fan view.  this is evident in Limp Bizkit, however,
Johnathan Davis(korn's lead singer) was abused as a child, it may be
slightly evident this is the bands way of expressing their rage.  It can be
offensive, however there are many things i find far more offensive, that
people can accept this as it being their one and only view on the matter,
because its all they have heard from them.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) nmr - apology and 2 cents (might as well)
Date: 13 Nov 1999 17:23:50 EST


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sorry for that empty email, i was spacing, thinking how cool it was to get a
moby email again, while trying to forward it to a friend and goofed terribly.
i think that misogyny in our culture is very much ingrained that it's hard to
make a change down to the roots because the roots are sometimes hard to find.
 maybe it's like when i look at another culture and i am appalled by what
they do to their women and the laws they put to oppress them, but if no one
from or affected by another culture said anything, maybe some of those laws
would just be taken in as how things just are.
and that's why i think we don't quite notice it so much, because we are
living in it.  it's hard to look at something objectively when you're in the
middle of it.  but then one day in the future (i am hoping we get better)
people will look back at us and think about how horrible we were to women.
i think we're still too affected by centuries, even recent decades past where
the woman was supposed to be weaker.  also in music, there's a certain
attraction and romanticism attached to artistic anger and destructive
violence.  and many of these musical genres are tied closely to sub-cultures
that like to behave very much like packs of animals.  and maybe they do it
just because it feels right instead of thinking intelligently about the
disease they keep passing down.
okay, i hope that made some sense.  i am still a bit embarrased.  continue
with the moby-talk!
malfunctiongirl
ps: i totally agree about the beautiful saturday morning depression thing.
i'd feel much happier in the middle of a foggy morning.

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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) misogyny?
Date: 13 Nov 1999 17:41:27 -0800



Maybe if anyone analzyed the music industry you would find there is a lot of
misandry (hatred for men)
Suddenly all these male bands come out calling women bitches and disliking
them for taking their money and so on...
Maybe because there were a bunch of female bands calling men assholes and
cheap and so on...
it is a battle of the sexes...
Do I get offended no..why should I
it is some artists view about the opposite sex...If females continually
screw you over, then you will have some kind of hatred towards them, and
these will be reflected in your songs...
same thing vice versa...when female arists react with male hatred..
I just don't really totally agree...I mean I love women and all...but if you
had even just one bad experience with one and it really pisses you off..what
can ya do heh..
heh...did you see tons of guys at Lilith Fair? maybe cause half of the
artists songs are about guys..
Sure Eminem is a real asshole, his mom is even suing him.  that sucks..
but like these other bands, Korn, Limp Bizkit...heh, it's music full of rage
and emotion..and if you don't dig that then fine.  Cause a lot of emotion
comes out of breakups and experiences that are related.  I mean stabbing
westward has made 3 albums of just songs being pissed off at women...
I just think it is normal emotion..
Rappers treat women more like shit than anyone else and have been for a
decade...but what is funny is that the women that like that kind of music
seem to agree with the stereotype..anyways
I think this may be blown out of proportion...
Chris




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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) or those of you who don't care about the misogny thing or Limp Bizkit,
Date: 13 Nov 1999 15:39:18 -0700

Ok, for those of you who don't care about the misogny thing or Limp
Bizkit, skip this email.

Ok, for those of you who do care, here is the Limp Bizkit email
address.  Forward the Limp Bizkit posts to them, express YOUR feelings
about their music etc.  If you have a problem w/ it, tell them!  Also,
email artists, record companies etc who publish music you feel depicts
unaceptable attitudes.  They have a right to speak freely and so do you
and your opinions may just have an influence on them.  Write MTV, VH1
and even your state congress ppl!  If you want to see artists take
responsibility for their attitudes then be a responsble member of
society and express yours!  No one hears your voice if you don't speak
up!  Be proud to have a voice.  BTW: I'm not saying we should get all
Tipper Gore on every one but really, if you say "Hey, this is how I feel
about what you're doing.  I'm not going to kill you or stalk you or
threaten you but I feel your music is....(insert here) and I would like
you to be aware that ppl feel that it is detrimental to children."

[e-mail]

Millennium with Kid Rock
PO Box 1366
Royal Oak, MI 48068

Psychopathic Records
P.O. Box 332
Royal Oak, MI, 48068-0332

Insane Clown Posse Infoline:
(734)-480-3910

[e-mail]

[e-mail]

Info on contacting your congressman:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

The White House:
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave, N.W.
[phone] [phone]

Email MTV NEWS:
[e-mail]

Spin:
[e-mail].

Rolling Stone Editors:
[e-mail]

I think that covers it sort of for now.  Again, I'm not saying these ppl
should be killed or stalked or harassed but they should be made aware of
your opinions and if we want things to change, we have to say "Hey, I
think you're giving kids the wrong idea.  I'm not saying stop making
your music or even to change your lyrics but to tell kids that if they
do some of the things you depict in your songs, they might end up dead
or in jail."  That is where we can start.

love,

kimby











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From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Hello new member
Date: 13 Nov 1999 22:41:45 +0000


1- name: javi
2- age:18
3- moby collection: i only own play for now
4- first heard of moby at the spring HFStival in balitmore
5- i'm also a fan of silverchair
6- i'm looking forward to seeing moby with low-fidelity allstars at the
recher theater on thanksgiving day



I like Low -fidelity allstars, they are cool, a gig was on the radio
with Chandra doing violin, f**king amazing. Oh, and hello, welcome to
the wonderful world of dementadly obsessive moby
fans____________________



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: misogyny? LONGISH POST II]
Date: 13 Nov 1999 15:46:10 -0700

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This is email expressed my opionions and not those of the mailing list
it was oringinally sent to.  There are others who feel as I do, that
disrespect is disgraceful but that the artists mentioned and the artists
not mentioned are not the only ones to blame.  I think that expressing
this to persons in the music industry helps them to understand and to
consider the feelings of consumers of music products.

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> >misogyny is treating a female like crap because she's a female...and he's
> >right, it's very prevalent in today's pop culture (always has been).  it
> >doesn't seem like bands like limp bizkit and god knows how many others are
> >going to go away anytime soon.  which sucks, because amidst all their fame
> >and popularity, with moby's inclusion into this popular mainstream only
> >means his subsequent inclusion in the said stereotype so many fall into.
>

I don't condone the thoughts expressed by Kid Rock or Limp Bizkit (which I
can't stand) but ppl no matter who they are get treated like crap.  It's
wrong.  I don't think that it should be totally shouldered by these ppl
though.  They ARE responsible for what they say and do but it is also parents
responsibility to make sure they're kids either don't get ahold of music like
that or that they understand that homophobia is wrong, misongyny is wrong and
racism is wrong.  It's the media's responsibility to express to it's viewers
that those are unacceptable attitudes.  Ppl will write that crap but no body
has to play it or buy it.  So we can start by not buying it, not requesting it
and talking to other ppl about it.  It's everyone's responsibility to make
sure that the children who don't know better that those are unaceptable
attitudes to have.  And the ppl who wrote that stuff, they are as much a
product of our irresponsible society as the children who buy their music.  I'm
not saying to pity them because they had hard lives but to realize if we keep
letting children hear these things and not understand that it's wrong, we're
going to keep creating Limp Bizkit, year after year.  They were kids and our
society failed them by at some point saying "It's ok to rape, to hate and to
steal.  It's ok because ppl do it on tv, on the radio and adults do it on the
streets.  You can do it too."  No, that's not acceptable.  I would not allow
any child of mine to get away w/ murder so what makes other parents, friends
and adults do it?  We are all responsible.

Ok, I'm stepping off the soap box, I'm now returning you to your regular
email.

--kimby

>
>




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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) seattle!  yes!
Date: 13 Nov 1999 15:03:25 -0800 (PST)

Finally!  I am going to get my chance to see Moby perform live!  Whoohoo!
I was getting a bit sad that I was not going to get a chance to hear
Porcelain live...and see that stunning Thousand finale.  He is playing the
Showbox (which unfortunately is 21+) on Dec 16.  I am *definitely* going
to be there...even if I have to sell some organs!  And it should be easy
to meet him at this venue since it's pretty straightforward...no hidden
exits or doors or anything.  Yay!

Can ya tell I'm excited?!?!  Who else is going to be there?

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!
Date: 13 Nov 1999 19:06:19 EST

Bodyrock 3...is that the one with the star glasses? I don't want to tape it
if it is...thanks


>From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) next AMP playlist (moby!)/JSBX remix info!
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 06:45:21 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>AMP will be on at 3 am on november 14, thats
> >>>3HREE<<< AM. not 2wo am like usual. the next 2
>weeks will be on at 2 am. at least they told us ahead
>of time this time!
>
>PLAYLIST:
>
>Moby: Bodyrock 3
>Wiseguys: Ooh La La Version 2
>Mr. Scruff:Honeydew
>Moby:Run On
>Westbam:Sonic Empire
>Chems:Out Of Control
>Richie Hawtin:Minus Orange
>DJ Rap:Good To Be Alive
>Leftfield:Afrika Shox (do you need a hand? *shudder*)
>Jungle Brothers:Get Down (ROCK!)
>
>
>
>also, i got the Matador 3cd anthology thingy
>"Everything Is Nice" silly title, but it kinda clashes
>with the title of one of my fave albums ever but
>anyway it includes the entire Matador catalog EVER in
>here, and heres some info you might wanna know about
>the Jon Spencer Experimental Remixes, which Moby
>contributed  to. Its catalog number is OLE-111? ok,
>well it was first released on 5/23/95 on 12" and CDEP.
>the original version of the CDEP is out of print
>however. it was reissued on 6/23/95 on CDEP,
>remastered w/different tracks, with the same catalog
>number. then on 7/20/95 it was re-remasteres again, w/
>different tracks, again only on CDEP, same catalog #.
>anybody know if the Moby mixes are on some editions
>but not others? just in case anyone cares, theres also
>ann out of print JSBX 7" called "Bellbottoms" with the
>same catalog number, OLE-111, released 2/14/95.
>
>i highly recomend this Matador 3cd comp thingy.
>amazinng shit from Cat Power (wow, truly stunning, its
>cool that Moby is down with them too!) and JSBX
>Pavement Jega GBV!!! Sleater Kinney Pizzicato 5 (a
>charmingly weird track called "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
>Barbie Dolls" i love them but after listening to them
>i wonder, what the hell is up with them? seriously?)
>plu Solex and Yo La Tengo and some new groups like
>Void and Wisdom of Harry and Arsonists and Non Phixion
>that we'll hear more from later no doubt.
>
>also, I'm totally obsessed with Futurama now for some
>reason. i'll not go on about this right now, i gotta
>go.
>
>"Bender, are you jacking on in there?"
>PHIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
>
>
>
>
>o
>
>=====
>Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!!
>SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
>ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
>[e-mail]
>Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje
>(aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<)
>__________________________________________________
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>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
>

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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rage powered music
Date: 14 Nov 1999 00:22:46 GMT

>Honestly i dont see any of this in korn, i am a fan, but am still >trying
>to look at it from a non fan view.  this is evident in Limp >Bizkit,
>however, Johnathan Davis(korn's lead singer) was abused as a >child, it may
>be slightly evident this is the bands way of expressing their rage.  It can
>be offensive, however there are many >things i find far more offensive,
>that people can accept this as it >being their one and only view on the
>matter, because its all they >have heard from them.


well, if you want to get into technicalities, i was abused quite cruelly as
a child, and i'm not about to tote it around or make a living out of it.  he
(jonathan davis) isn't going on stage and saying "don't molest or beat
children" is he?  not the last time i checked.  i don't have a problem with
him expressing rage (god forbid, what kind of hypocrite would i be?), but it
wouldn't hurt for him to come out and be a spokesperson for a charity group
against child abusers would it?

i think if there's going to be rage in music, it should focus on resolving
it, not keep repeating itself endlessly.  it should reach the end of its
cathartic process (or at least show some signs of getting there after a
while).  this part is largely lacking...though not in korn exclusively, mind
you.  i'm talking in the vast expanse of music in general.

-alex

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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Date: 13 Nov 1999 22:41:21 -0800

Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
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Chris




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) 202?maybe too harsh
Date: 13 Nov 1999 22:37:18 EST


For the price I paid I can't bash the 202.but,for everything it can do
there's five it can't.i know i shouldn't expect much out of it.all in all it
works great as an effects box for vocals.

 -spaz



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) of fruity loops and smart media
Date: 13 Nov 1999 22:41:34 EST


 if i ever get rid of the sampler i'll be more than happy to send off the
cards to you.though financially that''s in the far off future.as far as the
fruity loops machine goes,being behind the times like i am,i've never heard
of it.but,i'm intrigued.so anything anyone can tell me will be greatly
appreciated.

 -spaz



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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Date: 14 Nov 1999 14:09:25 +0100

Chris wrote:
>Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
>strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
>interesting.


This is from a Dutch show called "2 meter sessies" where artists
perform live and often (not always) acoustic.  The radio station
played it before the Moby performance on Pinkpop 1998 as an
introduction to the artist (they played a bit of all artists before they
went on stage) I wish I had the whole "2 meter sessies" show with
Moby, but I only have this one track...

Thanks for your replies on the misogyny thing, I only hope I
haven't started new thread here about women rights.

(<>,,<>) http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/
np: Dance 2 Trance - We came in peace (UK remix '93)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) reverb!
Date: 14 Nov 1999 12:47:39 EST

can anyone tell me when the reverb with Moby in it will air....thank you..elie



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From: "Tikva Morowati" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby's e-mails
Date: 14 Nov 1999 22:52:44 -0500

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hey guys,
my computer just crashed and the e-mails moby wrote were lost.  can =
someone please send them to me.  thanks,
tikva

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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tour?
Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:45:26 -0800 (PST)

someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with blink
182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
anyone know the other bands going to be there?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) reverb!
Date: 15 Nov 1999 00:14:59 EST

isnt it november 30th?



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?
Date: 15 Nov 1999 00:19:06 -0700

> >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with blink
> >182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
> >anyone know the other bands going to be there?

Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if he toured w/ Blink
182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show (being put on by The Edge
in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a fan of 311 or Blink.
But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I know.  If he plays w/
those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink I'm sure.

--kimby




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From: "Joshua Schilling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?
Date: 15 Nov 1999 02:15:40 -0600


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:19 AM


> > >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with blink
> > >182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
> > >anyone know the other bands going to be there?
>
> Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if he toured w/ Blink
> 182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show (being put on by The Edge
> in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a fan of 311 or Blink.
> But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I know.  If he plays w/
> those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink I'm sure.
>
> --kimby
>
> well, he's playing here in chicago with them as well for Q101 (radio)
along with filter, fiona apple and a bunch of others.  I'm going, but just
for moby, it'll be worth sitting through the others to see him.

josh




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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?
Date: 15 Nov 1999 06:48:00 -0800 (PST)

ok...thank you.

--- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with
> blink
> > >182 and a few other bands..when is that and does
> > >anyone know the other bands going to be there?
>
> Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if he
> toured w/ Blink
> 182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show (being
> put on by The Edge
> in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a
> fan of 311 or Blink.
> But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I
> know.  If he plays w/
> those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink I'm
> sure.
>
> --kimby
>
>
>


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?
Date: 15 Nov 1999 06:49:11 -0800 (PST)


oh..wow really..i could probably make the chicago
one..when is it..
--- Joshua Schilling <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:19 AM
> Subject: Re: (mobility) tour?
>
>
> > > >someone mentioned moby going to be on tour with
> blink
> > > >182 and a few other bands..when is that and
> does
> > > >anyone know the other bands going to be there?
> >
> > Oh no, it's not a tour!  I would be so shocked if
> he toured w/ Blink
> > 182!  Ohmygod!  No, in Phx he's having a show
> (being put on by The Edge
> > in Phx) w/ Blink and 311.  Uh, ick.  I'm soo not a
> fan of 311 or Blink.
> > But yeah, so that's just a phx thing as far as I
> know.  If he plays w/
> > those bands in another city, it's a co-inky-dink
> I'm sure.
> >
> > --kimby
> >
> > well, he's playing here in chicago with them as
> well for Q101 (radio)
> along with filter, fiona apple and a bunch of
> others.  I'm going, but just
> for moby, it'll be worth sitting through the others
> to see him.
>
> josh
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:01:20 EST

In a message dated 11/13/1999 10:56:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< nothing.
 and this tour that i'm on looks poised to go
 on for a long
 long
 long
 time.  possibly until next september. >>

Yeah!  Theres Hope for me yet!

<speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
component to their music and i find it to be truly
awful and offensive. >

YES!  Grr.. People are all wondering what's happening to the moral and
ethical values of the world.. Well duh!  You have dumb asses like them
promoting male assholeness, women subordiantion, and all the things that
moral values are supposed to go against and people look up to them....  And
you know, within a year, they're all going to be hasbeens or dead from drug
overdose.. so what's the point of looking up to such losers?  I have to
admit, of the above listed, I like Kid Rock the best...  I think it's cuz he
has a personal midget..

Toodles.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:06:47 EST

In a message dated 11/13/1999 1:37:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< the
 weird thing is that their fans don't seem realize that misogynistic
component
 attached to the music... not to mention mtv who did a wonderful job of
 exposing them to death.
  >>


I think they do, they just think its cool.. And the worse thing is that the
girls go along with it because they think they're supposed too... But excuse
me, poll for the girls ~  Would you actually want to date Fred Durst or Kid
Rock?  I don't think so.. I would smack both of their faces so fast....  Just
because they have women issues does not mean they have to mold the world to
be as messed as they are... And MTV!  Don't even get me started...  Lil' Kim
at the VMAs was terrible and a result of the gangsta rap and asshole rock
taking over the ideals of those intergrated into the pop culture...  Think
how lovely the world would be if Moby ruled the world?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:12:02 EST

In a message dated 11/13/1999 1:43:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I mean, it's *bad* to have a negative attitude towards women, ppl of
 color, gays etc however I think it's unhealthy and unrealistic for those
 views to never be represented.  How boring would it be for every song to
 be about love and cars and money and God only knows what but to not have
 songs about rape or hatred?  They exist. >>

Yeah they exist, and artist should write songs that deal with it, and showing
its there and saying this is wrong.. But that's not what Limp Bizkit (are
they spelling impaired or something) and Kid Rock do...  They glorify the
behavior... Like the whole Woodstock "show us your tits" thing... They thinks
it okay, so everyone else thinks its okay



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:19:19 EST

In a message dated 11/13/1999 7:33:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
 strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
 interesting. >>

Where, where, where????



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) misogyny? THE LONGISH POST
Date: 15 Nov 1999 10:30:32 -0700

> >Yeah they exist, and artist should write songs that deal with it, and showing
> >its there and saying this is wrong.. But that's not what Limp Bizkit (are
> >they spelling impaired or something) and Kid Rock do...  They glorify the
> >behavior... Like the whole Woodstock "show us your tits" thing... They thinks
> >it okay, so everyone else thinks its okay

I know they aren't exactly saying "Hey, this is stupid.  Don't act like a putz!"
And I think they should account for what they're saying because as recording
artists, they have a responsibility to do so.

I mean, there are some things that come under personal taste and others that are
just violent, racist etc. depictions of what these ppl do/have done/or know of
someone doing.  I would probably say "Show me your tits!" too if I were a rock
star, Hell, I say it now.  But I'm a woman and confortable w/ my own mamaries and
I don't mind making fun here and there.  It's possible to say that in good fun
but then again, it's possible for a jock to say it and mean that it's a prelude
to date rape.  So I guess that's iffy too eh?

But really, there are things you say on stage and let ppl know it's in good fun
and then there's you being a responsible artist and saying "Here's the dealio,
I'm just painting a picture but this isn't Simon says, ok?"

--kimby




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:34:40 EST

I want to thank everyone who totally fought for the validity of the Animal
Rights Cd.. It forced me to pick up my copy that had been collecting dust for
years... I got it right after Everything is Wrong (my first Moby) and was so
disappointed because it wasn't anything like what I was expecting... Plus it
was a little to heavy for my tastes back then...  So anyahoo, i was switching
CD's in my car and flipping through my book o cds I saw animal rights in the
official moby section and popped it in and actually listened to it (every
single song). Wow.  What a sad sad sad CD... There was so many beautiful
snippits of noise in the background that you have to listen for.. But damn,
just the songs....  Terribly sad stuff.. What I got out of it was Moby
(fictionally or in reality I don't know and really don't care) was in an
obsessive/unhealthy relationship, they broke up, he was pissed, then gripped
on sad acceptance of it... What a great CD... not an everyday listening
experience but still great.



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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Date: 15 Nov 1999 09:37:15 -0800 (PST)

Even though i like Moby and think he is my favorite
solo artist..I listen to some of those groups..such as
eminem, and i like blink 182...i have a very diverse
collection of music...and find alot of it very
good..and alot of it very bad...

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/13/1999 10:56:06 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << nothing.
>  and this tour that i'm on looks poised to go
>  on for a long
>  long
>  long
>  time.  possibly until next september. >>
>
> Yeah!  Theres Hope for me yet!
>
> <speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely
> offended
> by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
> all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
> korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of
> misogynistic
> component to their music and i find it to be truly
> awful and offensive. >
>
> YES!  Grr.. People are all wondering what's
> happening to the moral and
> ethical values of the world.. Well duh!  You have
> dumb asses like them
> promoting male assholeness, women subordiantion, and
> all the things that
> moral values are supposed to go against and people
> look up to them....  And
> you know, within a year, they're all going to be
> hasbeens or dead from drug
> overdose.. so what's the point of looking up to such
> losers?  I have to
> admit, of the above listed, I like Kid Rock the
> best...  I think it's cuz he
> has a personal midget..
>
> Toodles.
>
>


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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:43:47 -0800

I picked it off some guy as a mp3

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 9:19 AM


In a message dated 11/13/1999 7:33:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Found "Black Hole Sun" with Moby apparently playing acoustic basically
 strumming chords, and Mimi Goese singing..only about 2 mins long..but
 interesting. >>

Where, where, where????



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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 09:46:18 -0800 (PST)

Animal Rights was the first cd I got and I liked
it..but after purchasing his most recent Play album..i
was like..whoa..what a difference..I think you are
right..he could have been going through a tough time
in his life...but i do still enjoy the cd either way.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:54:27 EST

I completely agree that AR is a great album.  The very first time I listened
to it, I was a bit confused because I was in a "Play" mindset and not quite
prepared for that initial burst of anger on "Someone to Love."  I had to take
off my headphones, eat some cookies, and completely re-direct my
expectations.  Now it's one of my favorites.  It's the only CD I own that
lends itself to both vicariously venting my own frustrations as well as
mellow me out right before I go to bed.

Robyn



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Date: 15 Nov 1999 10:59:32 -0700

Have you posted it to the Internet or something?  Can it be downloaded from
somewhere?  I'd like to hear it.

--kimby




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From: "Jake M." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: the poll
Date: 13 Nov 1999 13:23:25 PST


I will chime in on this one.

Best Moby Single: I would say Next is the E...but its my fave song...

Best Non-Moby Single: It would probably be the KLF's Justified and
Ancient...yeah its old school..but hey Tammy Wynette and the KLF...can it
get any better???

Best Moby Non-Single: Hm...Living! I love that song way too much.

Best-Non-Mob Non-Single: Oh Gosh...this is quite hard. I dunno..probably
most of the Manic Street Preachers songs...Public Enemy...

NP: "Contraband: Men At Work's Greatest Hits" hehe.

Jake
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From: no one really no one at all <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) help! "why does my heart..." video info
Date: 13 Nov 1999 13:02:50 -0800 (PST)


ppl i need your help.
i must admit i'm don't know moby that much
(oh don't hurt me! nooooooo!)

i subscribed to this list because i'm desperate-
the video for "why does my heart feel so bad"
is amazing. (i noticed that all of moby's videos are
great)
and i have to know-
 who is the animator?
are there more cartoons by the 'man in the moon' and
his dog or was it just a one time thing?
every bit of info is welcome!

you guys have the sleeve notes for this single-
i'm assuming there something there....

thanks!
first one to respond gets a cookie!
last one to respond gets mariah carey! AGH! poor
fella!


bubye,
yours
girl that needs to get a life



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Found a interesting track..
Date: 15 Nov 1999 15:21:48 -0800

yeah it's not too big since it was encoded rather badly..
just tell me where to put it..
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of kimbalina
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 10:00 AM


Have you posted it to the Internet or something?  Can it be downloaded from
somewhere?  I'd like to hear it.

--kimby




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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 12:24:33 -0800 (PST)



i have some animal rights for you. my dog just got hit
and killed today. i haven't even had her for a year. i
got her the day after christmas when my other dog had
a heart attack because our male rottwieler ran into
her. i'm betting it was our neighbors. they drive down
my road (i live in the country) at 80 miles per hour.
last week they killed someones cat. it was so messed
up you could barely tell what it was. i knew she was
dead the minute she wasn't coming. at this point i
question how it comes about that i have gone through 4
dogs in the past two years. and what i did to deserve
that. why do you suppose if god is so wonderful that
he would let that happen. just answer me that.

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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 16:23:47 -0800

The solution:
tie your dog up in your yard.

Heh I hit 2 dogs when I lived in texas because the stupid caretakers let
dogs roam on the highway, and a dog at 60 mph can total your front end.  It
is the legal responsibility of the owner to make sure it doesn't go on the
road.  Don't blame it on God...God gave us inhibition not to walk on roads
with speeding cars...since animals don't have that sense maybe you should
teach them that.
Sorry bout your dog..
Chris

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of megan check
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 12:25 PM




i have some animal rights for you. my dog just got hit
and killed today. i haven't even had her for a year. i
got her the day after christmas when my other dog had
a heart attack because our male rottwieler ran into
her. i'm betting it was our neighbors. they drive down
my road (i live in the country) at 80 miles per hour.
last week they killed someones cat. it was so messed
up you could barely tell what it was. i knew she was
dead the minute she wasn't coming. at this point i
question how it comes about that i have gone through 4
dogs in the past two years. and what i did to deserve
that. why do you suppose if god is so wonderful that
he would let that happen. just answer me that.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #30
Date: 15 Nov 1999 16:23:19 EST

someone was asking about fruity loops. email me at [e-mail] if you
want info.

riz



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Mixer
Date: 15 Nov 1999 13:26:59 PST

Moby's got the cover of Mixer magazine this month, which I picked up during
my lunch hour, as well as an old Built To Spill album and the new Clash live
album. I thought I'd send off a few interesting snippets for your perusal.

On Paul Van Dyk, which the interviewer says Moby regards as a friend:
"I seem to run into him at airports all the time now".

In the space of one week Moby opened up for Blondie at a benefit, DJed the
mtv video music awards, and spun at Donatella Versace's fashion week party.

Bono came up to Moby at a party, kissed his hands, and told him how much he
loved Play.

Axl's new material reminded Moby of U2's Achtung Baby. "It was powerful but
groovy. They were doing everything on ProTools. The only time he (Axl) got
testy was when I said 'these need vocals'. Obviously there's some issues
there. But I liked what I heard".

"It's so weird coming home at 3 in the morning checking your messages and
hearing, 'Hey Mobe it's Axl'".

At the Versace party, Madonna complimented Play and mentioned to Moby the
possibility of working together. (if you need the whole long quote, ask and
I shall provide.)

Near the end the interviewer quotes an acquintance (of Moby's or the
interviewer's?) who says that there's two sides to Moby: he wants to be this
outspoken good guy, but he's also that skinny little kid in high school who
couldn't get laid. On the latter, the acquiantance relates a story about the
Grammy awards where Moby urinated in the sushi tray and said it's 'punk
rock'.

There's an ad for Hackers 3, and a little note in a 'random info' type
section that says there's an exclusive Moby track at Amazon.com. (somebody
needs to investigate.. I'll see what's there... There's also a picture way
in the back that has Moby & Greta on stage. The magazine was fairly priced
at 3.50, which is why I have it here to look at instead of trying to
remember what was written in it... :)

-Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Mixer
Date: 15 Nov 1999 17:13:32 EST

In a message dated 11/15/1999 4:30:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< n the space of one week Moby opened up for Blondie at a benefit, DJed the
 mtv video music awards, and spun at Donatella Versace's fashion week party.
>>

He also did a show for NYU students that week for what musta been a
considerable pay cut, given admission was only $5.

<< On the latter, the acquiantance relates a story about the
 Grammy awards where Moby urinated in the sushi tray and said it's 'punk
 rock'. >>

Jiminy, I hope not.  Besides the fact that it's completely gross, I am
reminded of an Entertainment Weekly article a few years or so ago about the
Spice Girls *ahem* defecating in potted plants at a hotel.  That there could
be such an unsavory correlation between Moby and the Spice Girls saddens me
deeply.
I can only hope that if he really did do that, there was a substantial amount
of alcohol involved.

Robyn



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) help! "why does my heart..." video info
Date: 15 Nov 1999 17:22:25 EST

In a message dated 11/15/1999 1:12:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< who is the animator?
 are there more cartoons by the 'man in the moon' and
 his dog or was it just a one time thing?
 every bit of info is welcome! >>

The "little idiot" character is a Moby innovation, but according to the
sleeve, the animation was done by some folks by the names of Susi Wilkinson,
Filipe Alcada, and Hotessa Laurence.  I know that the little idiot appears on
other single sleeves and Moby merchendise, but as far as I know that's about
it.  ANyone care to add?

Robyn



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mobyAMP
Date: 15 Nov 1999 14:24:09 -0800 (PST)


okay, so on AMP yesterday after they played Bodyrock 3
(glasses video) and Run On they had this teeny
interview with Moby! yay! just sumthin like "there
really is no way to categorize it" "its influenced by
R&B but theres also some classical influence" and
something praising the fans too ;)

and go to amp.mtv.com i assume something Moby-related
is there now!

because some people asked,

AMP is MTV's electronic music/techno music show. its
on  Sunday night (technically monday morning) from 2-3
am usually, yet they keep pre-empting it and shit cuz
they suck. its right after 120 minutes. the home page
is at amp.mtv.com where they have downloads of muzik,
interviews, recent playlist (or sometimes future
playlist) etc. AMP is of course the only reason to
watch MTV......until of course Sifl & Olly return,
which is now scheduled to be January or
February!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
except there onlt gonna play reruns of seasons 1 and
2,  because season 3 is gonna be up for downloading on
the website. andd theyll play some videos from the new
seasons IN ROTATION to promo it. ROCK!

has anybody heard "Rockafeller Skank" on mainstream
top 40 radio lately? my god, its
unbelievable......they're actually playing something
that isn't some boy band, or a nu-metal band, or
something from a Mickey Mouse Club graduate, or some
lame rap tune. furthermore, theyre playing ELECTRONIC
MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! crazy. what the hell,
you couldnt have done that 2 years ago, when there was
all this hype about it? jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz.

BRAVO MOBY! there is too much sexism in muzik and MTV
and all that, and it affects the kidz as well.  the
worst is like when Fred Durst says "half of my friends
are gay, we call each other 'fag' all the time" or "if
women could know how much i feel for them......" or
such bullshit he's been known to say. yeah right,
punk.

anyway big up to Moby and THEY BROUGHT BACK THE HAPPY
LITTLE ELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY
GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



okay bye.

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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Mixer
Date: 15 Nov 1999 15:39:51 -0700

> >Jiminy, I hope not.  Besides the fact that it's completely gross, I am
> >reminded of an Entertainment Weekly article a few years or so ago about the
> >Spice Girls *ahem* defecating in potted plants at a hotel.  That there could
> >be such an unsavory correlation between Moby and the Spice Girls saddens me
> >deeply.
> >I can only hope that if he really did do that, there was a substantial amount
> >of alcohol involved.
>

Well, there isn't anything terribly sexy about pissing in a potted plant but he
was right when he said it was "punk rock".  I lived w/ a punker for a while and
he would do just plain odd things and we would just look at each other and say,
"Yeah, that was punk rock" but I think you'd have to be there to understand it.
:-P

Anyways, when you have to carry out a body function, you have to.  Props to MOBY
for being Punk Rock!

--kimby

>
>




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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 14:46:31 -0800 (PST)


i wasn't blaming anything on God and I'm sorry if i
came across that way. but like i said. i do tie my
dogs up but they need to have some free roaming
time..and i was outside watching her at the time..but
i can't keep an eye on her constantly and try to get
my work done..besides she was a very small dog..i
doubt she had any real effect on the car. and i can
understand a highway going that fast. but what if
there was a child that wandered into the road. instead
of a dog. it happens, people shouldn't drive like a
bat out of hell just because they are on back roads.


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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Animal Rights
Date: 15 Nov 1999 14:46:39 -0800 (PST)


i wasn't blaming anything on God and I'm sorry if i
came across that way. but like i said. i do tie my
dogs up but they need to have some free roaming
time..and i was outside watching her at the time..but
i can't keep an eye on her constantly and try to get
my work done..besides she was a very small dog..i
doubt she had any real effect on the car. and i can
understand a highway going that fast. but what if
there was a child that wandered into the road. instead
of a dog. it happens, people shouldn't drive like a
bat out of hell just because they are on back roads.


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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Mixer
Date: 15 Nov 1999 14:47:56 PST

I find it hilarious. It's too bad he didn't take aim at the potato salad
afterwards. Especially funny if you imagine the quiet, studious, humble Moby
telling you (straightfaced) that it's 'punk rock' while he fumbles w/ his
zipper and looks furtively around to see who was watching. Although if he
was drunk, well, I suppose that would be funny too. Yup.

-Steve

:)

Oh yeah, Moby likes the Spice Girls' music, which is far more unsavory that
a few harmless turds or a fishpiss.

Take it easy.


>>On the latter, the acquiantance relates a story about the
>>Grammy awards where Moby urinated in the sushi tray and said >>it's 'punk
>>rock'.
>>
>Jiminy, I hope not.  Besides the fact that it's completely gross, I >am
>reminded of an Entertainment Weekly article a few years or so ago >about
>the
>Spice Girls *ahem* defecating in potted plants at a hotel.  That >there
>could
>be such an unsavory correlation between Moby and the Spice Girls >saddens
>me
>deeply.
>I can only hope that if he really did do that, there was a >substantial
>amount
>of alcohol involved.
>
>Robyn

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From: "thalia kyvernitakis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) introduction
Date: 16 Nov 1999 09:54:47 EST

hey

i'm thalia, i'm 26, have just joined this fine list. i haven't liked moby
for that long, i only heard "next is the e" about 1 1/2 years ago, but i was
hooked from the time i did. i am not very familiar with his early stuff but
have some idea. i am from melbourne and had the pleasure of seeing him live
here the other night. i also like underworld, keoki, wink, chem. bros.,
prodigy, etc. beyond his music, i respect his ideology and his application
of it in his art/life.

thanks,
thal.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) mobyAMP
Date: 15 Nov 1999 17:59:15 EST

In a message dated 11/15/1999 2:24:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< has anybody heard "Rockafeller Skank" on mainstream
 top 40 radio lately? my god, its
 unbelievable......they're actually playing something
 that isn't some boy band, or a nu-metal band, or
 something from a Mickey Mouse Club graduate, or some
 lame rap tune. furthermore, theyre playing ELECTRONIC
 MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! crazy. what the hell,
 you couldnt have done that 2 years ago, when there was
 all this hype about it? jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz. >>

Yeah too, but Chemical Brother's "Let forever Be" is getting tons of airplay
too...  Bodyrock got a little bit but then it died for some reason....  But
my station plays Love & Rockets and Prodigy, so I don't know how accurate of
mainstream that is.



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Paper
Date: 15 Nov 1999 20:49:46 -0500

Hey Everyone, Whats up. I have got a kinda random but Moby related
question. I have to write a research paper (15 pages min) on anything
that I want (that isn't run of the mill - abortion...) I want to do
something with techno, but I can't think of a way that I will be able to
get that much information for it, or what I can do with it anyway. Does
anyone have any ideas at all - it can be anything. Or, has anyone
actually done something like this - I remember hearing people talking
about writing papers on Moby and other things before. Any help would be
so awesome. Thanks a lot. Later.
AJ



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From: "dan perry" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mobyAMP
Date: 15 Nov 1999 19:55:59 -0600 (CST)

Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]> wrote:

> and go to amp.mtv.com i assume something Moby-related
> is there now!
yeah, and there's a horribly outdated AMP page (don't know what's
wrong with the guy) at http://www.execpc.com/~danperry/index.html .
it lists the stuff from the first season and a lot of the second.
colin barton is (or was - i haven't been there in a while) on
rec.music.ambient (he's a producer for the show, i think), so
if you're interested in hearing from him or want to drop some
hints, look for him there.
i don't think they played any moby in the first season.  pretty
strange that they're playing him all the time now.

seeyuz...



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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction
Date: 16 Nov 1999 02:24:27 GMT

>From: "thalia kyvernitakis" <[e-mail]>


hey- i just noticed your name...that's very greek!  welcome to the list!

-alexander kourelis, 50% greek

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From: Ethan Padgett <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: fatboy slim
Date: 15 Nov 1999 22:42:58 -0500

> has anybody heard "Rockafeller Skank" on mainstream
> top 40 radio lately? my god, its
> unbelievable......they're actually playing something
> that isn't some boy band, or a nu-metal band, or
> something from a Mickey Mouse Club graduate, or some
> lame rap tune. furthermore, theyre playing ELECTRONIC
> MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

um...while technically electronic, fatboy slim is to electronic music what mc
hammer was to rap. his incredibly weak bubblegum techno tracks are not at all
welcome on my ghettoblaster. (note to all fatboy slim fans--i enjoyed 'right
here, right now', so remember there is good in everything. please don't flame me)

yeah, i'm new.

ethan



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) #2
Date: 16 Nov 1999 01:35:10 -0500

Ok, I know that I just asked about the paper topic about techno, but I
think it may be too hard to write about techno as much as I need to. So,
thanks to all of you guys, I have (Tentativly) decided to write it about
something about is vegetarian/vegan really the right way to live or not.
As in healthy for the body, not for the cows. So, I was just wondering,
if all of you people who are into this topic so much more than I am
could give me any info as to where I can get some links to sites or pick
up books that would be awesome. But, if anyone can actually tell me that
I can find enough info for the techno paper I can switch back. Thanks a
lot. Later.
AJ



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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) little idiot + mp3
Date: 16 Nov 1999 09:28:05 +0100

Robyn wrote:
>The "little idiot" character is a Moby innovation, but according to the
>sleeve, the animation was done by some folks by the names of Susi
Wilkinson,
>Filipe Alcada, and Hotessa Laurence.  I know that the little idiot appears
on
>other single sleeves and Moby merchendise, but as far as I know that's
about
>it.  ANyone care to add?


Is this the 'little idiot' character?
I thought the one one on the 'little idiot' CD that came
with AR was the little idiot. Perhaps Moby has created
a whole cartoon family of little idiots :)... Anyway, the same
cartoon as on the WDMHFSB single is also on the Bring
Back My Happiness single.

Chris about the Black Hole Sun mp3:
>yeah it's not too big since it was encoded rather badly..

Not 'badly'! just at a lower bitrate (96 kbs) since this song
has almost no high frequencies it sounds just as good at
96 kbs as on 128 kbs. And why waste precious disc space?

(<>,,<>) http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) hey wassup MoBILIty ;)
Date: 17 Nov 1999 00:54:47 +1100

here is the site you wanted... http://SEX.Interactwithme.com it's the one that gives you free membership access (all hacked) to abotu 300 membership based sex sites. k bye...
ps: why r u using xmission.com now? it doens't make sence, anyway *bye*...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey wassup MoBILIty ;)
Date: 16 Nov 1999 09:01:35 EST

In a message dated 11/16/1999 5:55:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> http://SEX.Interactwithme.com it's the one that gives you free membership
> access (all hacked) to abotu 300 membership based sex sites

what the hell is this....seriously....elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby Merchandise
Date: 16 Nov 1999 14:34:45 EST

I'm such a silly cow.  I went to Moby.org just cuz I was bored and in the
news, they had the addition of gotmerch.com that has moby stuff... They have
the cutest little idiot shirt, not to mention stuff from the Tick (glee!)
curious George, space ghost for those who like the show, and Beck, plus tons
others....  Life is good once more.



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From: "Mette Rogstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) help! "why does my heart..." video info
Date: 16 Nov 1999 20:34:44 +0100

I think Moby drawed the little idiot himself. I have tons of signed stuff
where he drew some idiots for me. They are so cute :)

Mette

><< who is the animator?
> are there more cartoons by the 'man in the moon' and
> his dog or was it just a one time thing?
> every bit of info is welcome! >>
>
>The "little idiot" character is a Moby innovation, but according to the
>sleeve, the animation was done by some folks by the names of Susi
Wilkinson,
>Filipe Alcada, and Hotessa Laurence.  I know that the little idiot appears
on
>other single sleeves and Moby merchendise, but as far as I know that's
about
>it.  ANyone care to add?
>
>Robyn
>




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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: OT Vanilla Ice VS fatboy slim
Date: 16 Nov 1999 12:50:05 -0700

> >um...while technically electronic, fatboy slim is to electronic music what mc
> >hammer was to rap. his incredibly weak bubblegum techno tracks are not at all
> >welcome on my ghettoblaster. (note to all fatboy slim fans--i enjoyed 'right
> >here, right now', so remember there is good in everything. please don't flame me)
>

So you think he'll be bankrupt destitute in in a year?  Hrmph, I think that will be
most of the artists that are around now. But not namely Fatboy.  My guesses are Limp
B, Kid R and so on.  The ppl who listen to their kind of music most likely listned to
Hammer and Vanilla Ice and those are the unforgiving fans.  That's my prediction.

But personally, I kinda lika old Vanilla Ice and Hammer.  It's interesting.  Not to
say they were wonderful, serious artists but it's nice to look back to less than ten
years ago and remember what rap was like before 'gangsta' rap took over.  It's nice
to remember that there were rap songs that weren't totally offensive all the time.
But those are pretty much days gone by.  Then it was a rarity for nasty songs/artist
air play and now it's a rarity that non gangsta rappers are getting air play.  But I
don't hate gagsta rap, don't get me wrong.  I just think it's pretty unhealthy stuff
that goes along w/ my Limp B, Kid R rants from a few days ago.

OT, I know.

--kimby





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From: "Wiens, Jeremy A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) help! "why does my heart..." video info
Date: 16 Nov 1999 14:42:54 -0600

I'm pretty sure that the little idiot (i hope that i am thinking of the right
thing) is defineatly a moby creation.  I got to meet him at edgefest here in MN,
and he was signing autographs and things, and the way that he signed them was
that he drew the little guy, and put an m by it.

-jeremy



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Thanksgiving
Date: 16 Nov 1999 16:01:47 -0500

Hey, can someone who is going to the Thanksgiving show in Towson please
tell me where this Recher Theatre is? How can I get there? Thanks a lot.
Later.
AJ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Thanksgiving
Date: 16 Nov 1999 16:24:41 EST

There's directions and all the info you'll need for the Recher Theatre at
this website.http://sunspot.citysearch.com/E/V/BALMD/0001/42/05/cs1.html
Hope this helps.
-danny



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey wassup MoBILIty ;)
Date: 16 Nov 1999 14:37:34 -0700

> >> http://SEX.Interactwithme.com it's the one that gives you free membership
> >> access (all hacked) to abotu 300 membership based sex sites
>
> >what the hell is this....seriously....elie

Weirdness?  What is that!  Ok, who's the kink freak?! :-)  MOBY?  Tee hee hee.

Did everyone get this?  I don't think I did but then again I didn't check.

--kimby




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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: OT Vanilla Ice VS fatboy slim
Date: 16 Nov 1999 14:02:28 -0800 (PST)

--- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> So you think he'll be bankrupt destitute in in
> a year?  Hrmph, I think that will be most of
> the artists that are around now. But not
> namely Fatboy.

The word on the street is that Fatboy Slim is
going to release one more album, then start
raising a family with Zoe.  Don't blame him, at
all.  He could continue to make wonderful music,
most likely (much like Moby), but perhaps he
tires of it.

However, seeing him live gives him the OK to do
whatever he wants now. :)

=====
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: OT Vanilla Ice VS fatboy slim
Date: 16 Nov 1999 17:07:33 EST

In a message dated 11/16/1999 2:03:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< > So you think he'll be bankrupt destitute in in
 > a year?  Hrmph, I think that will be most of
 > the artists that are around now. But not
 > namely Fatboy.   >>

I personally like Fatboy.. True I'm incredibly sick of Funk Soul Brother
(overplay ne 1?) but he has some other cool tunes..  And he's nothing like
Hammer and Ice..  All the proof you need is in the Praise You video.  I have
never laughed so hard at a music video my entire life.  He's not pretenious
at all, and he's pretty much out of the public spotlight considering his
popularity.  I like him.  He's different.  And fun.  If he makes 1 more and
then disappears  to familial bliss, who are we to judge?  He's made his
contribution to the music world and stopped before he becomes unwelcome.
Don't you wish we could say that about Vanilla Ice?  Talk about most unwanted
comeback.   Sorry for rambling.



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey wassup MoBILIty ;)
Date: 16 Nov 1999 15:29:59 -0700

> >here is the site you wanted... http://SEX.Interactwithme.com it's the one that gives you >free membership access (all hacked) to abotu 300 membership based sex sites. k bye...
>
> >ps: why r u using xmission.com now? it doens't make sence, anyway *bye*...

I am confused.

--kimby

PS... Is this the email every one else got that I thought I didn't get?






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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OT: ranting and raving...
Date: 16 Nov 1999 22:37:59 GMT

i'm gonna get some stuff off my chest if nobody minds...(and if you
do...*shrug*)

>--- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > So you think he'll be bankrupt destitute in in
> > a year?  Hrmph, I think that will be most of
> > the artists that are around now. But not
> > namely Fatboy.


ah, they'll make their money and disappear like most of the mainstream...and
for fatboy in particular...he was popular mostly because of that "long way
baby" song.  and let's face it, it doesn't take a genius to sample somebody
else, filter it, speed it up and slow it down while playing a record in the
backround.

that's a big problem with todays music.  not enough creativity, and bands
willing to just sample what they need, push a button and claim they "made" a
song.

and with djs...well, i don't know.  i've met a few in my day, some really
great ones (some awesome ones that'll never make it), but it just seems like
the majority get this whole ego trip when they put a "dj" in front of their
name.  face it man, you're only putting a vinyl disk somebody else made on a
turntable, moving your wrist around and turning a knob or two.  yes, i've
heard some good drum beats from djs, but how many actually use a drum
machine and create the beats?  on a side note, i've never heard a dj use
anything other than the homogenous 4/4 or 2/4 tempo...boom-tss boom-tss
boom-tss boom-tss...

and if you've ever looked at the "techno compilation" section in a store,
you'll know what i'm talking about when i say i'm sick of unknown djs
putting out a million crappy cds that clog the section and make it hard to
find *good* techno.  please god make them stop!  if you spin, and you spin
well, spin in a club, and stay there!  chances are you'll make more money
than if you made a cd...

i've got about a billion other things to say, and chances are this'll become
quite the controversial post...but i'll leave it at this for right now cuz i
gotta go to work.

never uses presets-in fact immediately erases them,
-alex

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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: ranting and raving...
Date: 16 Nov 1999 15:14:43 -0800 (PST)



--- alex <[e-mail]> wrote:
> i'm gonna get some stuff off my chest if nobody
> minds...(and if you
> do...*shrug*)
>
> >--- kimbalina <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > > So you think he'll be bankrupt destitute in in
> > > a year?  Hrmph, I think that will be most of
> > > the artists that are around now. But not
> > > namely Fatboy.
>
>
> ah, they'll make their money and disappear like most
> of the mainstream...and
> for fatboy in particular...he was popular mostly
> because of that "long way
> baby" song.  and let's face it, it doesn't take a
> genius to sample somebody
> else, filter it, speed it up and slow it down while
> playing a record in the
> backround.
>
> that's a big problem with todays music.  not enough
> creativity, and bands
> willing to just sample what they need, push a button
> and claim they "made" a
> song.
>
> and with djs...well, i don't know.  i've met a few
> in my day, some really
> great ones (some awesome ones that'll never make
> it), but it just seems like
> the majority get this whole ego trip when they put a
> "dj" in front of their
> name.  face it man, you're only putting a vinyl disk
> somebody else made on a
> turntable, moving your wrist around and turning a
> knob or two.  yes, i've
> heard some good drum beats from djs, but how many
> actually use a drum
> machine and create the beats?  on a side note, i've
> never heard a dj use
> anything other than the homogenous 4/4 or 2/4
> tempo...boom-tss boom-tss
> boom-tss boom-tss...
>
> and if you've ever looked at the "techno
> compilation" section in a store,
> you'll know what i'm talking about when i say i'm
> sick of unknown djs
> putting out a million crappy cds that clog the
> section and make it hard to
> find *good* techno.  please god make them stop!  if
> you spin, and you spin
> well, spin in a club, and stay there!  chances are
> you'll make more money
> than if you made a cd...
>
> i've got about a billion other things to say, and
> chances are this'll become
> quite the controversial post...but i'll leave it at
> this for right now cuz i
> gotta go to work.
>
> never uses presets-in fact immediately erases them,
> -alex
>
>
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> alot of bands are no talent. however with people
like Norman Cook its another story. alot of work goes
into this music, and praise you isnt even the best
song on the album. alot of fatboys songs run off
samples. guess what SO DOES MOST OTHER TECHNO!  alot
of his other songs are not purely sample powered.  And
with DJs like MTV's DJ skrobble are so bad i cant
stand it.  Skribble does nothing but play some of the
worst dance music i have ever heard.  Other dj's
though... like Spooky,punk roc,and shadow..these
people are far more artistic and origonal.  SO go
listen to you tech records, listen what do you
hear...SAMPLES! so please while your listening to that
please dont critisize other artists who use samples.

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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 'letter from moby to mobililty'
Date: 16 Nov 1999 15:43:44 -0800 (PST)

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, MOBY wrote:
> and for some reason i find beautiful saturday
> afternoon's to be sort of depressing.  oh well.

i know exactly how that is.  :)  i woke up this morning (sunday)...after a
looong night...and the sun was just blazing through my blinds.  it
definitely did not put me in a cheery mood...now it's dark and foggy out
and i'm feeling much more calm and relaxed.  glad to hear i'm not the only
one who doesn't dig on sunny afternoons...  But I also have a  much more
personal reason for loathing the sun...which we won't go into here.
*hehe*  :D

> and this tour that i'm on looks poised to go
> on for a long
> long
> long
> time.  possibly until next september.  long, huh.

that's great news for the fans who were hoping to catch a bit of this
tour.  hopefully moby will be able to maintain the same level of energy
i've read that he has in his current shows.  i don't know though...that
much travelling can wear on you and make you tired - even if you are doing
something you love.

> let's see, any actual information...
> next single is 'natural blues' with remixes
> by deep dish & paul oakenfold.  i wonder if 'natural
> blues' will get played on the radio in the u.s.
> i can't really imagine it inbetween limp bizkit
> and metallica...

well, i know that 'natural blues' gets played on the public and college
radio stations here (since i've heard it on there and requested quite a
few moby tunes on there) but i can't say the same for the commercial
stations.  maybe i'm a bit of a snob but i hope it doesn't - i don't want
all those "limp bizkit heads" to get ahold of "my" moby and turn him into
their latest fad...if you know what i mean.  :)

> speaking of which, is anyone else absolutely offended
> by all of the misogyny in contemporary music?
> all of these groups, limp bizkit, kid rock, eminem,
> korn, etc, all seem to have some sort of misogynistic
> component to their music and i find it to be truly
> awful and offensive.  misogyny is just as offensive
> as racism, homphobia, anti-semitism, etc.

i personally don't like any of the music i currently hear on the
commercial radio air waves - which is why i stick to public/college radio
stations and to downloading unknown music by unknown artists and going to
concerts in out of the way places and clubs with creative unsigned bands,
groups and artists.  i think that this music that is now popular will pass
and the "masses" will move onto their next fad.

> o.k, i'll get off my soapbox.  there's nice music
> playing here and i have to go and find out if it's
> a band or a cd.
> hoping you're all well.
> love
> moby

we all need to do a little "soap-boxing" every once in awhile.  it feels
good to vent doesn't it?  :)

hoping you're well too.
and love right back atcha.

> p.s-whenever possible i try to play all-ages or 18 and
> over shows.  i apologize if for some reason i end up
> playing a 21 and over show.

yes, the seattle show is at a 21 and over venue but that isn't a problem
for me since i'm 23.  :)  i've also seen some *awesome* shows at the
showbox and think it is a great venue...saw gus gus and underworld there
on seperate occasions and had a blast.

see ya soon moby!  can't wait!

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

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____o__O__i feel dizzy when i think about it_____o_o_
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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby vs. FatBoySlim (was: ranting and raving...)
Date: 16 Nov 1999 18:08:57 -0600


----- Original Message -----
> let's face it, it doesn't take a genius to sample somebody
> else, filter it, speed it up and slow it down while playing a record in
the
> backround.
>
> that's a big problem with todays music.  not enough creativity, and bands
> willing to just sample what they need, push a button and claim they "made"
a
> song.
>
This is something I've been wondering about a lot lately. How is that
"Praise You" is generally derided as bubblegum techno and a lightweight
moment in pop culture, and "Run On" is considered one of the greatest
musical moments of the 20th Century? They both use some of the same
production methodology and techniques. Is it because "Run On" is that much
better than "Praise You"? Is it that "Praise You" makes a grab at sample for
a sound and what he can do to it, while "Run On" finds the timeless
qualities in an anachronistic recording and gives it a contemporary voice?
Is it that FBS has been played into the ground whereas everyone is just
discovering Moby (again)? Is it just the whim of fate? Is it that Moby is
cuter than FBS?

Something to ponder? What do you guys think?

BSC




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From: Ethan Padgett <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: fatboy slim
Date: 16 Nov 1999 19:33:06 -0500

>  All the proof you need is in the Praise You video.  I have
> never laughed so hard at a music video my entire life.  He's not pretenious
> at all, and he's pretty much out of the public spotlight considering his
> popularity.  I like him.  He's different.  And fun.


umm, the humour of the 'praise you' video was due to the genius of spike jonze
aka the dancing guy aka the director. i don't mean to offend any fatboy slim
fans when i say 'bubblegum' techno...i just mean that that he both has a more
pop oriented style (nothing wrong with that--look at depeche mode) and that he
is incredibly popular. i recall moby saying in 1993 ha maybe in 20 years we'll
have a #1 techno hit...

and as i said, i really liked 'right here, right now'. i also enjoyed a good
chunk of "better living thru chem.", and i'm not trying to say anything about
mr. cook musically, just making a comment on the mtv-manipulated
music-world..anyone remember 2 unlimited?

e.



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby vs. FatBoySlim (was: ranting and raving...)
Date: 16 Nov 1999 19:39:52 -0800

Well It's like this...I mean, I consider Moby's new stuff and Fatboy Slim
bigbeat.
There really isn't too much of a different in how the songs were made or put
together.  Take a sample from some old record that no one recgonizes and
make it popular by putting modern sounds to it. Praise You=piano, sample,
and the bigbeat..Run On=Same Thing
There really is no difference.  The people that insult Fatboy Slim are only
making it on the basis that he is popular.  Granted live he sucks...and Moby
kicks his ass live, but the engineering of the songs are the same.
Chris

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----- Original Message -----
> let's face it, it doesn't take a genius to sample somebody
> else, filter it, speed it up and slow it down while playing a record in
the
> backround.
>
> that's a big problem with todays music.  not enough creativity, and bands
> willing to just sample what they need, push a button and claim they "made"
a
> song.
>
This is something I've been wondering about a lot lately. How is that
"Praise You" is generally derided as bubblegum techno and a lightweight
moment in pop culture, and "Run On" is considered one of the greatest
musical moments of the 20th Century? They both use some of the same
production methodology and techniques. Is it because "Run On" is that much
better than "Praise You"? Is it that "Praise You" makes a grab at sample for
a sound and what he can do to it, while "Run On" finds the timeless
qualities in an anachronistic recording and gives it a contemporary voice?
Is it that FBS has been played into the ground whereas everyone is just
discovering Moby (again)? Is it just the whim of fate? Is it that Moby is
cuter than FBS?

Something to ponder? What do you guys think?

BSC





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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: ranting and raving...
Date: 17 Nov 1999 03:51:35 GMT

> > alot of bands are no talent. however with people
>like Norman Cook its another story. alot of work goes
>into this music, and praise you isnt even the best
>song on the album. alot of fatboys songs run off
>samples. guess what SO DOES MOST OTHER TECHNO!

that's why it's so hard to find the good stuff!

>people are far more artistic and origonal.  SO go
>listen to you tech records, listen what do you
>hear...SAMPLES! so please while your listening to that
>please dont critisize other artists who use samples.

of course i'm going to hear samples.  i also hear people with enough
originality to create their own drumlines...what drives me absolutely crazy
is a dj who samples other peoples drumlines (when for a measely $100 they
could make their own)...now if i go to a cd store, like media play or any
other chain, i can almost guarantee you that there will be an overabundance
of crappy, uninteresting, mediocre sample-based music.

-alex

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From: Jeremy Bishop <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Booking Information- Contacts Needed
Date: 16 Nov 1999 23:19:47 -0500

Hi-

I was hoping someone on this list my have the booking info for Moby's
tour.  I work for my college's local paper and we would like to
interview him if at all possible before his Nov. 30th show in
Winston-Salem.  If anybody has any clue how to contact his booker please
let me know!!!

thanks,

jeremy bishop
--
"and when we speak we are afraid,
  our words will not be heard,
  nor welcomed
  but when we are silent
  we are still afraid.

  so it is better to speak
  remembering
  we were never meant to survive."

  --Audre Lorde
  "Litany For Survival"





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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby vs. FatBoySlim (was: ranting and raving...)
Date: 17 Nov 1999 04:29:23 GMT

>This is something I've been wondering about a lot lately. How is that
>"Praise You" is generally derided as bubblegum techno and a >lightweight
>moment in pop culture, and "Run On" is considered one of >the greatest
>musical moments of the 20th Century?

run-on is good for the 2-3 minutes, then it's on to the next track.  i
certainly don't think you can rate an album the 20th century's best after
listening to it for a month and not considering EVERYTHING else that
happened musically this century.  it's like saying that the electric guitar
is the best instrument ever made without looking at any other instruments.
IMHO, everything is wrong is more deserving; more believable to say the
least.  just because joe blowjob at spin magazine gets paid to say nice
things about what the kids like in modern music (BTW, has anyone seen the
ridiculous articles they printed on orgy in there?  pure mainstream
rubbish.) without giving any thought to what he's writing about doesn't mean
i agree with him or consign myself to his point of view.  i don't mean to be
crass or rude, it's just how i feel, so don't take offense.  =o)

and if FBS or Moby get high radio play, i wouldn't know, i usually don't
listen to it.  i just know what i like when i hear it.

-alex

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Two random entirely on topic ponderings
Date: 16 Nov 1999 23:48:15 EST

1 ~ well not a pondering really, but a discovery/question.  I did a search of
wmimusic.com and they have the catalog number listed for the 2 cd Everything
is wrong with underwater.  Anyone know if this is another musicexpress to
lazy to update catalog situation?

2 ~ If Moby is ever doing anything with female vocals again, wouldn't it be
cool if he did something with Fisher?  She has such a cool voice..  But
that's just a thought...  I'm always thinking of musical joining of forces
that are kinda not traditional

Toodles
Dei
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was, for the rest of the day I had this strange compulsion to bite people on
the neck and suck out all their fudge. ~ Nick Decamp




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby on sonicnet
Date: 17 Nov 1999 00:40:10 EST

check out:  <A HREF="http://www.sonicnet.com/front/index.jhtml">SonicNet: The
Online Music Network</A>
he's supposed to be a guest dj on the new sonicnet radio.

animal lib, veganism



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey wassup MoBILIty ;)
Date: 16 Nov 1999 23:23:13 -0600

At 5:15 PM -0600 11/16/99, mobility-digest wrote:

>here is the site you wanted... http://SEX.Interactwithme.com it's the one
>that gives you free membership access (all hacked) to abotu 300 membership
>based sex sites. k bye...
>ps: why r u using xmission.com now? it doens't make sence, anyway *bye*...

Melissa virus?

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 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"





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From: "Jake M." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) **Gangsta Rap**Not completely Moby related**
Date: 17 Nov 1999 00:13:35 PST

I disagree...
I do not enjoy "asshole rock" also called "rap rock" and other such names
(stuff like Limp Bizkit, Korn etc...). However, I would not put this "music"
in the same category as gangsta rap.
First, Lil Kim is NOT gangsta rap. I've had many conversations with people
over this. She does have gangsta rap songs...but she is not gangsta
rap...her music would be considered hip-hop (however bad) in most
rap/hip-hop knowledgable circles.
Gangsta rap are groups like NWA, Spice 1,King T, Ice T, Tupac(not all of his
stuff), Notorious BIG (not all of his stuff...), Mobb Deep, Old Dr. Dre, Old
Snoop Dogg, Ant Banks, The Beatnuts, Terror Squad...etc...these
groups/artists talk about their lives in gangs, in the ghetto etc...its all
quite violent...but much of the new "rap" is not gangsta...it is about
making money...getting women etc...which is not in the mold of gangsta rap
(this is up to a lot of interpretation...in which I take the more
conservative approach). Non Gangsta rap/hip hop is like Jay Z, Puff Daddy,
Wu-Tang Clan, Eve, the Fugees and spin offs....and then groups like Public
Enemy, De La Soul, and Tribe Called Quest are non gangsta and many times
political rap.
So anyway..many of the "gangsta rap" groups you have probable never heard
of...thats because they are not pop culture...I don't believe that Spice 1
has a song that contains so little violence that it would be able to be
played on radio or tv.
I also do not believe that "gangsta rap" should be called similar to "rock
rap" stuff like Korn, ICP etc...although both violent...I don't believe I've
ever heard an ICP song that is the telling the story of a life...not just a
messed up story about killing...Gangsta rap is notourious for telling the
story of those who are rapping...people like puff daddy did not live in the
"hood" they grew up dancing in janet jackson videos...
As for Moby ruling the world. I think it would be cool...but as
anything...the novelty would not last long. I hate to say this...considering
moby is my favorite musical artist. Anything I say does not take away from
the sheer genius and beauty of his music.

There is a nice long rant for you all.

Jake
"The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato
"(God) comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others"-2
Corinthians 1
-- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html


>I think they do, they just think its cool.. And the worse thing is that the
>girls go along with it because they think they're supposed too... But
>excuse
>me, poll for the girls ~  Would you actually want to date Fred Durst or Kid
>Rock?  I don't think so.. I would smack both of their faces so fast....
>Just
>because they have women issues does not mean they have to mold the world to
>be as messed as they are... And MTV!  Don't even get me started...  Lil'
>Kim
>at the VMAs was terrible and a result of the gangsta rap and asshole rock
>taking over the ideals of those intergrated into the pop culture...  Think
>how lovely the world would be if Moby ruled the world?
>

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Two random entirely on topic ponderings
Date: 17 Nov 1999 10:05:24 +0100

>1 ~ well not a pondering really, but a discovery/question.  I did a search
of
>wmimusic.com and they have the catalog number listed for the 2 cd
Everything
>is wrong with underwater.  Anyone know if this is another musicexpress to
>lazy to update catalog situation?


Unfortunately.... yes.  WMI is a HUGE impoter/distributer of music and they
have tons of other listings that I KNOW they can't supply. I thought I even
saw
the LTD version of Dead Cities (by FSOL) listed there (or at some other
large
distributer, I'm not 100% sure..) Ha Ha Ha!!!

I'd suggest to search the smaller stores, that only sell things they have in
stock.

>2 ~ If Moby is ever doing anything with female vocals again, wouldn't it be
>cool if he did something with Fisher?  She has such a cool voice..  But
>that's just a thought...  I'm always thinking of musical joining of forces
>that are kinda not traditional


I agree, Moby's music goes great with female vocals!

Bart
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From: price d <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) FatBoySlim & Stuff!
Date: 17 Nov 1999 11:43:00 -0000



Can I just say that I think FBS is quality, his music is well...cool!
I don't know what the charts are like over in the states, but here in the UK
there SHIT!! FBS relay is a breath of fresh air from all that commercial
manufactured rubbish, its a shame moby isn't that well known over here, I
can't believe "why does my heart feel so bad" only got to number 39!!

P.S. If anyone there knows moby!! could you please ask him to play a gig in
Wales one day!!



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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OT ICP
Date: 17 Nov 1999 06:19:46 -0800 (PST)

--- "Jake M." <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I don't believe I've ever heard an ICP
> song that is the telling the story of a
> life...not just a messed up story about
> killing...

You haven't listened to enough ICP. :)  To be
fair to ICP (I am a juggalo, you know), while
their songs are about killing, it's all a bunch
of crap, something they say in their interviews
and what not.  Also, the song aren't about women,
but bitches.  There IS a difference.

The Spin Doctors said it best - "You don't need
to be a woman to be a bitch, you just have to be
a bitch."

And if ICP wasn't so durned humorous, I think
that I probably wouldn't listen to it myself. :)

=====
DJ Pagan
"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark
 closet and listen to Dead Cities?"
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From: Torgrim Grimstad <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #33
Date: 17 Nov 1999 15:40:30 +0100 (CET)

[e-mail]
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Im a tv-director. Im searching CHRISTIAN FANS OF MOBY. Please contact me
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From: "John Paleologos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) a question of availability...
Date: 17 Nov 1999 17:06:01 +0200

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) **Gangsta Rap**Not completely Moby related**
Date: 17 Nov 1999 11:51:59 EST

Well thank you Jake for the clarification.. I generally refer to it as thug
music.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) a question of availability...
Date: 17 Nov 1999 12:02:06 EST

In a message dated 11/17/1999 7:09:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Hi there everyone.I'm rather new to this list,so please forgive me if I
ask about things that have been recently discussed.What I wanted to know,is
if any of you know if I can find the "the end of everything","voodoo child"
and "instinct dance" albums anywhere in Europe on-line,without having to use
a credit card.All shops I've found on the net till now,either don't have
them,or they require the damn cards...
 Read ya all later
            Narayannis
  >>

K ~ here's what you do.. Sign up for rocketcash or doughnet, both of which I
think you can have access to on cdnow (i think, you might want to check)  I
know cdnow has end of everythin, but that's it.  big places that will wait
for check/mo usually have limited selections.  But to tide you over pick up
Early Underground which has cool tracks from Voodoo Child, Instint Dance +
others..



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on reverb..
Date: 17 Nov 1999 16:27:38 EST

i believe moby played in hbo's reverb last nite...i was tired so i had to
miss it..oh well...elie



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From: "John Paleologos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) a question of availability...
Date: 17 Nov 1999 23:28:56 +0200

I already got that...And I live in Greece,which means that using these
servises is rather difficult.That's why I ask for Europe,where I have
alternative ways to pay...
HELP! :-)
Anywayz,thanx for the info
Read ya later
         Narayannis



> In a message dated 11/17/1999 7:09:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << Hi there everyone.I'm rather new to this list,so please forgive me if I
> ask about things that have been recently discussed.What I wanted to
know,is
> if any of you know if I can find the "the end of everything","voodoo
child"
> and "instinct dance" albums anywhere in Europe on-line,without having to
use
> a credit card.All shops I've found on the net till now,either don't have
> them,or they require the damn cards...
>  Read ya all later
>             Narayannis
>   >>
>
> K ~ here's what you do.. Sign up for rocketcash or doughnet, both of which
I
> think you can have access to on cdnow (i think, you might want to check)
I
> know cdnow has end of everythin, but that's it.  big places that will wait
> for check/mo usually have limited selections.  But to tide you over pick
up
> Early Underground which has cool tracks from Voodoo Child, Instint Dance +
> others..
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on reverb..
Date: 17 Nov 1999 16:31:18 EST

i thought it was supposed to be on the 30th?!?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on reverb..
Date: 17 Nov 1999 16:33:44 EST

In a message dated 11/17/99 4:32:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i thought it was supposed to be on the 30th?!? >>

according to my calendar, i have it on the 23rd.  anyone want to confirm?

-tina



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on reverb..
Date: 17 Nov 1999 16:39:13 EST

It is the 23rd according to the official Reverb website.. Before I could have
sworn it was the 30.  But anyways, provided that I can stay up (yeah right)
the 23rd will be a good day cuz it is also the release date of the new Beck.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on reverb..
Date: 17 Nov 1999 16:55:17 EST

to be honest....it was a commercial for it and it had moby in the
commercial..i didn't see the reverb episode so i don't even know if he was in
it...sorry for the misunderstanding...elie



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From: "Damian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) FW: Welcome to mobility
Date: 18 Nov 1999 11:32:00 +1300

Info about me:

*  Name
Damian - Honest.... how scarey is that!!

*  Age
23

*  What is in your Moby collection
So far:  Everything is Wrong, Play, Move - EP, Self Titled best of... Can't
remember the name cause the case got Stolen, along with my B-sides CD....
Sven Vath/Moby Mixmag compilation, I like to score, hopefully gonna get the
Evil Ninja Moby mixes before Christmas cause that is quite cool!

*  Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are
First heard about him from my Sister after she came back from Alberquerque
(Is that how you spell it?), she told me about it and ordered Everything is
Wrong for me.... Since then i haven't looked back..... I have his old logo
tattooed and i drove 1200k's to see him do a 1 1/2 hour dj set.... but it
was worth it!

*  Other artists you like
Richard Humpty Vission (DJ in LA), Shihad (Melbourne based NZ band), Breathe
(Another NZ band), various house dj's......

*  Any other interesting information you wish to share
Ummm, I love House Music and a bit of Techno..... Moby has had his first
tour here and he is easily the best gig I have been to in my lifetime.....
even better than Englebert, he he he!!








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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: fatboy slim
Date: 17 Nov 1999 16:29:51 -0800 (PST)

so that's what they call fatboy
slim...um..interesting..for a while i wasn't sure how
to catagorize him..i have something for all you latin
fans out there...how you all love to preach
peace..i'll leave you with something..

pax tecum,

megan.

--- Ethan Padgett <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > has anybody heard "Rockafeller Skank" on
> mainstream
> > top 40 radio lately? my god, its
> > unbelievable......they're actually playing
> something
> > that isn't some boy band, or a nu-metal band, or
> > something from a Mickey Mouse Club graduate, or
> some
> > lame rap tune. furthermore, theyre playing
> ELECTRONIC
> > MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> um...while technically electronic, fatboy slim is to
> electronic music what mc
> hammer was to rap. his incredibly weak bubblegum
> techno tracks are not at all
> welcome on my ghettoblaster. (note to all fatboy
> slim fans--i enjoyed 'right
> here, right now', so remember there is good in
> everything. please don't flame me)
>
> yeah, i'm new.
>
> ethan
>
>


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From: Chris Perkins <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) question about CD's
Date: 17 Nov 1999 20:19:26 -0700

sorry for the off topic question, but here goes:  i'm extremely anal about
taking care of my CD's, and as of recent, i've become suddenly concerned
with something.  does anyone know if leaving one's CD's in the car over
night can have an adverse effect on them?  will the cold damage the CD's?
they seem to play alright, but i'm still concerned that there could be a
potential problem.  please help, and thanks.


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From: Ethan Padgett <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #33
Date: 17 Nov 1999 22:29:09 -0500

one-i really do consider fatboy slim to bring ME less enjoyment than moby.
your opinion may be different, but that's ok. we are civilised here.

two-i believe 'run on' is a better song than 'praise you'. run on deals with
religion from a perspective not often seen in modern times, it has a richer
heritage than whatever soul record 'praise you' samples. (honestly, what is
this, 1983? can we please move beyond 60's mo-town samples and
parliment-swiped beats?) and yes, the fact that praise you is mind-numbingly
popular does play a part. i have little faith in the masses. i think that once
something is popular with the masses, most of the time, it is of shoddy
quality (not always true, but a lot of the time...)

of course, all opinions are valid. any thoughts on other pop/techno artists?

e.



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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) question about CD's
Date: 18 Nov 1999 06:10:44 GMT

does anyone know if leaving one's CD's in the car over
>night can have an adverse effect on them?  will the cold damage the CD's?



lol...*ahem*...no, it won't adversely affect the cds, a cd player might have
trouble (skipping) but once it warms up it'll be ok.  uh...i just thought of
this though, if you leave em there all night, and it's really cold, don't go
bending them.

-alex

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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #33
Date: 18 Nov 1999 06:16:06 GMT

>of course, all opinions are valid. any thoughts on other pop/techno
>artists?


well, just to throw this in for kicks, i believe that if you use a sample,
it should be used for a purpose.  at least have it pertain to something
within your albums imagery.  just using a sample for the sake of it kind of
ruins the fun...

still bitching about samples...
-alex

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From: "wolfgang friedlich" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) NYC...
Date: 17 Nov 1999 23:43:51 -0800

sup all,

i saw a flyer that said Moby will be djing in NY in tha near future, along with lots of other big names!!!

np...Beck "Midnite Vultures", sorry to say, but i really don't like it, and i love Beck almost as much as Moby...

peace

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: NMR question about CD's
Date: 18 Nov 1999 09:44:39 +0200

There is a high-end-snobbish magazine called Stereo, and there they recommend
to put a cd in a fridge for half an hour before playing in order to get better
sound. and that's not all, they even recommend to cut the edge of the cd under
a certain angle so that it will no longer be a cylinder, but some kind of a
cone without the top (can you imagine). there was an advertisment for a machine
that does this, some kind of "cd-lathe". the least extreme thing they
recommended was paint the edge with a green felt-tip pen, because green is the
complementary colour to the red of the laser and so you get less distortion.

i know, it all seems like i'm just joking, but this is a real serious magazine
for people who prefer iridium connectors to platinum ones and speakes boxes
from teac wood instead of pine.

i tried two of their tips (the less dangerous two) and the fun with the
fridge... well, i got a cd, that my stereo didn't want to read on any occasion,
and after putting it into fridge for half an hour, the stereo improved its
success to 10% from 0.
and the second tip was about scratches on cds, the Stereo magazine recommends
to paint the scratch over with a black pencil. i tried this on a cd that had so
many scratches, that it couldn't bear any more, just because of no place for
some next. well... it managed to bear some next, because after applying this
pencil-doctor for cds, there are even more scratches, but they are more
visible. (for me, don't know if this tells the cdplayer where the scratches are
in order to make him avoid them :) )

so this was just an off-topic posting, don't worry chris, your cds will survive
that, it would be worse if you let them in the car during a day. a hot summer
one. i thought that only tapes are in danger of being "chewed" by the deck,
but after my friend returned me one cd i lend him, i'm not so sure :)

have a nice day and sorry for such long NMR posting.

kohut.


> sorry for the off topic question, but here goes:  i'm extremely anal about
> taking care of my CD's, and as of recent, i've become suddenly concerned
> with something.  does anyone know if leaving one's CD's in the car over
> night can have an adverse effect on them?  will the cold damage the CD's?
> they seem to play alright, but i'm still concerned that there could be a
> potential problem.  please help, and thanks.
>
>
> Chris Perkins        [e-mail]        ICQ #: 32689797
>
> -People in small towns don't know what books are and they don't know what
> phones are.  If you ask them about phonebooks, their heads will explode.-

>
>



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) NYC...
Date: 18 Nov 1999 09:02:53 EST

hey..try to find out more about this..seriously..it would be quite nice to
see moby dj in NYC...plus it would save me the money and the time it would
take to see him down in DC at Engage...love..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Play Limited edition (A bonus Cd) ?
Date: 18 Nov 1999 09:48:44 EST

Hi folks.
I just went to a French online store that sells a thing called:
Moby - Play (Limited edition) (A bonus Cd)
Do u know something about this release ? (Cause i don't want to spend 20 bucks - its expensive price - to get a cd that  i already have and another one that is a collection of the last b sides or remixes ...)
Reference shown:VIR  8486260.

Thanks in advance.
Matthieu
http://www.multimania.com/evilninja/index.html

Note: (To Bart) How do u manage to get all these Moby Cds ? You have won a lottery prize or something like that because I can't do it.)

np: Faithless - Why go ? (the single with Boy george, quite funny in fact)



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From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby coming back to Dallas!!!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 08:54:35 PST

Merge 933.net Presents
The First Annual Jingle Bell Ball.
Friday, December 10th at the Bronco Bowl.
Cake, Moby, Vertical Horizon.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby coming back to Dallas!!!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 12:04:42 EST

In a message dated 11/18/1999 9:03:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Cake, Moby, Vertical Horizon. >>

There's an odd mix.. All very cool, just wouldn't have put them together.



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby coming back to Dallas!!!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 11:16:10 -0600

Whats your source on this?  (not trying to question you.... but i just
want more info!)  The merge933.net doesn't list performers and it says
that the jingle bell ball is on the 11th....
--rob

Robert Taylor wrote:

> Merge 933.net Presents
> The First Annual Jingle Bell Ball.
> Friday, December 10th at the Bronco Bowl.
> Cake, Moby, Vertical Horizon.
>
> ______________________________________________________
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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #33
Date: 18 Nov 1999 09:46:03 -0800 (PST)



--- alex <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >of course, all opinions are valid. any thoughts on
> other pop/techno
> >artists?
>
>
> well, just to throw this in for kicks, i believe
> that if you use a sample,
> it should be used for a purpose.  at least have it
> pertain to something
> within your albums imagery.  just using a sample for
> the sake of it kind of
> ruins the fun...
>
> still bitching about samples...
> -alex
>
>
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> http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
i really dont think some artists like Cook, try to
become pop techno. my local pop station played him
because he sold big
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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: fatboy slim
Date: 19 Nov 1999 05:57:20 +0000


>so that's what they call fatboy
>slim...um..interesting..for a while i wasn't sure how
>to catagorize him..

when Chris Rock called him "whiteboy retarded" he ought to consider by
the same token of loathsome racism he may be called "Wogboy
loudmouthed." And then the media would've jumped all over him for being
racist. Strange this wasn't picked up by the press at the time?
--
Mark Reed



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From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) porcelain
Date: 18 Nov 1999 18:12:14 -0000

does anyone know a good Spanish music store on the web where I can buy
porcelain as it says it is released in November

Geoffrey Sproule




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From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 10:39:51 -0800 (PST)

does anyone who's going to either the thanksgiving
show or engage want to meet up????
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 18 Nov 1999 10:53:10 -0800

Anybody see the MOOBY shirts from Dogma?  They'd
make cool shirts for Moby fans, except no one would
realize it!

Deemo




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From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby coming back to Dallas!!!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 10:53:28 PST

You should check it again





Reply-To: [e-mail]

Whats your source on this?  (not trying to question you.... but i just
want more info!)  The merge933.net doesn't list performers and it says
that the jingle bell ball is on the 11th....
--rob

Robert Taylor wrote:

 > Merge 933.net Presents
 > The First Annual Jingle Bell Ball.
 > Friday, December 10th at the Bronco Bowl.
 > Cake, Moby, Vertical Horizon.
 >
 > ______________________________________________________
 > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 10:59:00 -0800 (PST)



--- morag doodikins <[e-mail]> wrote:
> does anyone who's going to either the thanksgiving
> show or engage want to meet up????
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
>
what is this engage show im hearing about (sorry i'm
uncultured). i want to go to the thanksgiving show,
but my family becons(foced me to go)me with turkey.
My friend is a low fi allstars fan so we were gonna go
together.  also..what kind of a stupid day for a
concert is thanksgiving?
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) samples and fatboy and beck! oh my!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 14:02:57 EST

okay. if you're going to sample - do something wiht the sample, have a reason
for sampling, and sample something we haven't heard already please.

no offense to anyone who believes otherwise, but fatboy slim is horribly
untalented - for him to be getting radio play whist people like moby and
aphex twin are ignored is an insult to music lovers everywhere. his work may
be catchy, but it's horribly repetitious, not too original, and ultimately
there is very little to it. some may say that the sparse sound of his work is
the point, but i don't think it works. not the way he does it. sparse has
been done well, (see velvet underground, joan of arc, cap'n jazz, sonic
youth), but not by fatboy slim.

nonetheless, one can look at it from the point of view already expressed here
- at least they're playing something didfferent on the radio. i recall being
in a car with my father, listening to his "adult contemporary" station
(whatever the hell that means) and "praise you" came on. my initial reaction
was shock, followed by a pleasant surprise, followed by me changing the
channel.

and as for beck, as far as i'm concerned the man can do no wrong, and sexx
laws was amazing so i have high hopes for the new album. usually when i have
high hopes, i am dissappointed, but we'll see. beck's wonderful enough that i
may not be.

fondbutnotinlove
don pentaro

right about now. repititious techno.
right about now. this song just starts right over.
right about now. repititious techno.
right about now. this song just starts right over.
right about now. repititious techno.
right about now. this song just starts right over.



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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OT: Fatboy Slim, White Ppl and MOBY controversies
Date: 18 Nov 1999 12:37:31 -0700

>
> >when Chris Rock called him "whiteboy retarded" he ought to consider by
> >the same token of loathsome racism he may be called "Wogboy
> >loudmouthed." And then the media would've jumped all over him for being
> >racist. Strange this wasn't picked up by the press at the time?
>

The media often lets ppl of color, gender or orientation make those
comments, knowing they're in good fun because these groups have been long
oppressed and we don't want to piss them off by censoring them.

I thought it was funny and lots of white persons make fun of themselves
(myself included) and it's ok to be able to laugh at yourself.

But, I don't really care about debating Fatboy any more.  Hee hee.  So, any
MOBY controversies lately?

--kimby





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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) porcelain 'n stuff
Date: 18 Nov 1999 20:58:58 +0100

Geoffrey Sproule wrote:
>does anyone know a good Spanish music store on the web where I can buy
>porcelain as it says it is released in November


I've been wondering about this too... I only read something on Moby.org
about
the single. Anybody got an OFFICIAL confirmation for this single?

Matthieu wrote:
>I just went to a French online store that sells a thing called:
>Moby - Play (Limited edition) (A bonus Cd)
>Do u know something about this release ? (Cause i don't want to spend 20
bucks - its >expensive price - to get a cd that  i already have and another
one that is a collection of >the last b sides or remixes ...)
>Reference shown:VIR  8486260.

Never heard of such a thing... I'll check a local music distributer, perhaps
they
have it listed.

>Note: (To Bart) How do u manage to get all these Moby Cds ? You have won a
lottery >prize or something like that because I can't do it.)

Well, I don't smoke, hardly ever drink and I like searching the internet for
Moby
stuff in my free time. So I have the money and the time to find and buy
those
precious Moby gems.

>np: Faithless - Why go ? (the single with Boy george, quite funny in fact)

Great single! (especially the Ferry Corsten mix!) But I like the album
version
best, it's so much more emotional than the single version...

ps. my website will get a facelift soon, I'm going to use CSS and a nice
      (but a not very original) background image.

(<>,,<>) http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/
np: Trance Mission - No more mindgames





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From: "Wiens, Jeremy A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) samples and fatboy and beck! oh my!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 13:58:07 -0600

this is a response to everyone who keeps ripping on fatboy slim.  why are all of
you disgruntled with the fact that moby doesn't get radio play?  hasn't it kind
of been proven by radio stations who are out to make the most money, play stuff
that appeals to masses, which is in my opinion not always good music.  but maybe
fatboy slims musical ideas just happen to coincide with what is considered radio
playable music.  the difference with moby, and aphex twin is that there music
just isn't mainstream.  so it isn't going to make a lot of money for the radio
station, so it isn't played.  but if fatboy slim is sticking to his artistic
ideals, and at the same time appealing to the masses is there anything wrong
with that?


-jeremy   [e-mail]


"over flowing animal shelters, and world hunger.  the solution is clear."
(that was a joke)



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From: "wolfgang friedlich" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) DJ Moby in NYC!!!
Date: 18 Nov 1999 12:01:43 -0800

sup, here's some more info...Saturday November 27

Ultraworld, 2Tuff, & Sonic Soul presents
Engage Alpha System: Richie Hawtin, Derrick May, MOBY, Dave Ralph,
Scott Henry, Donald Glaude
Beta System: Grooverider, Fabio, Andy C, Ed Rush, Bryan Gee, Storm,
Bailey, GQ & Flux, Slant & Stress
Delta System: Avatars of Dub (Live) Clark Warner, Olive, Lovegrove,
Fluid, Rhombus
The DC Armory noon-midnight
[phone]
www.ultraworld.net
18 and over, ID a must


what a wikkid party!!!

peace

wolfgang (dj Ahimsa)






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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey wassup MoBILIty ;)
Date: 18 Nov 1999 13:21:46 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/16/1999 5:55:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > SEX.Interactwithme.com it's the one that gives you free membership
> > access (all hacked) to abotu 300 membership based sex sites
>
> what the hell is this....seriously....elie

Holy Hell!!!

I don't know what this is.  I'll assume it's some sort of a virus that
reached my internet mail box.  I didn't write this!  I've been hassled
for the past week by this but just thought it was some smart program
which masked itself as knowing who you were.  I've been forwarding &
treating it as SPAM until now.  Guess it's decided to take on my
identity.  I truly apologize for this, I have NO idea how it happened.

I'll be running my updated virus program shortly after this.

Once again, I'm sorry and had no idea that it would or even could reach
the mailing list.

Sincerely,
Damian (ML owner)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 15:28:56 EST

I'm assuming you guys are talking about the LI concert.  The concert is not
on Thanksgiving day its the day before.



In a message dated 11/18/99 3:21:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< also..what kind of a stupid day for a
 concert is thanksgiving? >>



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 15:55:44 -0500

I am going to the Thanksgiving Towson one and if people want to meet up
tell me.

Oh, is there a reason why I still havn't run across the newest Moby
singles anywhere yet? WDMHFSB, right? Are they not released in America
or what? And the new BT too! What is going on?! Later.
AJ



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From: "courtney colonna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 18 Nov 1999 12:59:43 PST

>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:53:10 -0800
>
>Anybody see the MOOBY shirts from Dogma?  They'd
>make cool shirts for Moby fans, except no one would
>realize it!
>
>Deemo

i thought they were hilarious!  i almost wonder if kevin smith did it on
purpose.

courtney

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 16:24:29 EST

In a message dated 11/18/99 3:59:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Oh, is there a reason why I still havn't run across the newest Moby
 singles anywhere yet? WDMHFSB, right? Are they not released in America
 or what? And the new BT too! What is going on?! Later. >>

I found WDMHFSB? at the Virgin megastore in NYC as an import single.
Consequently, it cost about $9.99.

Robyn



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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 18 Nov 1999 15:27:54 -0600



>>Anybody see the MOOBY shirts from Dogma?  They'd
>>make cool shirts for Moby fans, except no one would
>>realize it!
>>
>>Deemo
>
>i thought they were hilarious!  i almost wonder if kevin smith did it on
>purpose.


Uh, no.  "Mooby" was the golden calf(ie a metaphor for Disney/kids
entertainment--an IDOL, much like the Idol in the book of Exodus, from which
the reference is most assuradly taken from, the isrealites erect a golden
calf to worship and God strikes them down for worshiping a false idol.)
It's just a variation of the sound a cow makes, MOOO, and the ending of
"Mickey" as in Mickey Mouse(for which it was an analogy).

I doubt that Smith knows about Moby, or listens to his music, I think he
prefers Jazz, but I don't remember.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 18 Nov 1999 16:38:11 EST

wheres are the shirts at?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play Limited edition (A bonus Cd) ?
Date: 18 Nov 1999 17:23:42 EST

hey.can you share the wealth and tell us the webpage adress...elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) nyc
Date: 18 Nov 1999 18:49:17 EST

In a message dated 11/18/99 1:18:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i saw a flyer that said Moby will be djing in NY in tha near future, along
with lots of other big names!!! >>


please find out more info about moby djing in nyc!!!  like when and where!
puh-leeez!!!!!
just got my tix for the show at vanderbilt in long island!
~animal lib, veganism



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 19:35:54 EST

In a message dated 11/18/1999 12:59:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< And the new BT too! What is going on?! Later.
 AJ
  >>

It's out in Europe (action-records.co.uk has speedy service)  IT so kicks
ass...  American release isn't until Spring.... Still suggest ordering, very
very worth every cent.



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #34
Date: 18 Nov 1999 18:57:48 -0600

At 11:46 AM -0600 11/18/99, mobility-digest wrote:

>Im a tv-director. Im searching CHRISTIAN FANS OF MOBY. Please contact me
>on [e-mail]


--
 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"





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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: NMR question about CD's
Date: 18 Nov 1999 19:06:07 -0600

>There is a high-end-snobbish magazine called Stereo, and there they recommend
>to put a cd in a fridge for half an hour before playing in order to get better
>sound.

[snippage]

CDs contain digital data... you've either got it, or you don't. None of
these things should accomplish anything but damaging your CDs.

--
 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 18 Nov 1999 20:46:44 -0500 (EST)

The shirts can be found at

http://store.yahoo.com/jsbstash/dogmatshirts.html

I'm off to see Moby tomorrow night at Bay 33 in Sydney.  Looking forward to it, as the last time I saw him play was at the Reading festival when he did his Animal Rights stuff, which is far too long ago.

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From: JULIA WORBS <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 18 Nov 1999 18:08:47 -0800 (PST)

Strange, here in the Atlanta Best Buy store it is out
since november and in Columbus, Ohio, too.
Julia

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 11/18/99 3:59:14 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, [e-mail]
> writes:
>
> << Oh, is there a reason why I still havn't run
> across the newest Moby
>  singles anywhere yet? WDMHFSB, right? Are they not
> released in America
>  or what? And the new BT too! What is going on?!
> Later. >>
>
> I found WDMHFSB? at the Virgin megastore in NYC as
> an import single.
> Consequently, it cost about $9.99.
>
> Robyn
>
>

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From: "Damian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:50:05 +1300

It's an awesome tour... I saw him on Monday at Wellington.... very cool!

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Friday, 19 November 1999 14:47


The shirts can be found at

http://store.yahoo.com/jsbstash/dogmatshirts.html

I'm off to see Moby tomorrow night at Bay 33 in Sydney.  Looking forward to
it, as the last time I saw him play was at the Reading festival when he did
his Animal Rights stuff, which is far too long ago.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Moby in NYC!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 07:41:47 EST

oh yeah...that's not exactly NYC..that is Washington DC...some peeps i know
are going but i can't afford it...oh well...take care..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Moby in NYC!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 11:11:15 EST

You all got my hopes up...I thought it was in NYC too!  :(



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) porcelain 'n stuff
Date: 19 Nov 1999 11:59:54 EST

 >I just went to a French online store that sells a thing called:
 >Moby - Play (Limited edition) (A bonus Cd)
 >Do u know something about this release ? (Cause i don't want to spend 20
 bucks - its >expensive price - to get a cd that  i already have and another
 one that is a collection of >the last b sides or remixes ...)
 >Reference shown:VIR  8486260.

i work at borders and we have a listing in our catalog for this... but, i
have been trying for 6 months to get it...and still no luck



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) porcelain 'n stuff
Date: 19 Nov 1999 11:59:54 EST

 >I just went to a French online store that sells a thing called:
 >Moby - Play (Limited edition) (A bonus Cd)
 >Do u know something about this release ? (Cause i don't want to spend 20
 bucks - its >expensive price - to get a cd that  i already have and another
 one that is a collection of >the last b sides or remixes ...)
 >Reference shown:VIR  8486260.

i work at borders and we have a listing in our catalog for this... but, i
have been trying for 6 months to get it...and still no luck



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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Moby in NYC!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 11:41:50 -0800 (PST)

*gasp*choke*

damn!  what a party!

richie hawtin, derrick may, grooverider, fabio, ed rush, andy c, storm!!!

*ack*  not to _mention_ Moby!

geez.  i wish they would throw a party like that over here.
noon to midnight.  what strange hours.  :)  i'm still sleeping at noon -
couldn't imagine going to a party then.

i like the fact that it is 18+.  i wish parties over here were like that,
i'm sick of seeing unbelievably fucked up 13 year olds running around.
it's depressing.

anyway.  for those of you who go....fucking enjoy!  :P~

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, wolfgang friedlich wrote:

> sup, here's some more info...Saturday November 27

Ultraworld, 2Tuff, & Sonic Soul presents
Engage Alpha System: Richie Hawtin, Derrick May, MOBY, Dave Ralph,
Scott Henry, Donald Glaude
Beta System: Grooverider, Fabio, Andy C, Ed Rush, Bryan Gee, Storm,
Bailey, GQ & Flux, Slant & Stress
Delta System: Avatars of Dub (Live) Clark Warner, Olive, Lovegrove,
Fluid, Rhombus
The DC Armory noon-midnight
[phone]
www.ultraworld.net
18 and over, ID a must




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Mystery CD
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:03:04 EST

K ~ did a Moby search on Boxset(?) some european thing and got this


T b a - Price: $16.58


Artist/Group:   Add N To X
Artist/Group:   Moby
Genre:   Pop/Rock
Distributor:   MNW Distribution AB
Mediatype:   CD
Label:
Release date:   3/15/99
Availability:   Slow item


Anyone know what this is?



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From: "wolfgang friedlich" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) sorry, i guess it is Washington...
Date: 19 Nov 1999 13:04:34 -0800

sup all,

i got the DJ Moby info from a friend who gave me a supposed list of events happenin' in NYC for tha next month, i never really paid attention to tha location and i just threw on tha list, so s orry for tha incorrect info...my bad...

peace all

Wolfgang



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play Limited edition (A bonus Cd) ? and STUFF
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:24:46 EST

ellie wrote:
>hey.can you share the wealth and tell us the webpage adress...elie

Well man if you're ready to shop in French, do as follows.
-go to www.fnac.fr
-write Moby in the box and choose "Cd Varietes" beside the same box.
-When arriving on the new page, it's Play (+ CD-Extra) (Edition limit=E9e)=20
Click on it
-Click on Confirmer
-Then on  Confirmer votre commande
-Write your name, adress, country...
- Click on Confirmer vos coordonnees
-then you see that the Cd will cost you if you're American 40 $ or 239 frs=20
(not a joke)
SO YOU STOP because they ARE FUC**** EXPENSIVE ! (or if you have money to=20
spend, contact me privately and you'll have the rest of the order)

I ordered it so I'll tell you normally on the 29 If it really worth it=20

Matthieu

Note: Just bought the Leftfield Africa Shox single. Clip really weird but I=20
love the song.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) and STUFF !
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:24:47 EST

Bart, I don't smoke nor drink it's just that I don't manage to have the good
price I guess (are CdZone and German MusicExpress) or that I don't have much
money (more that I guess). I also  spend time searching for Moby gemms but I
don't arrive to get the old ones (UHF, Voodoo Child, Drug fits the Face ...)

I just got confirmed a Double CD Maxi Single named Come on Baby ! (CdMute200
? Don't know as it's not the same number on the order)

Just bought second hand the Senseless soundtrack. Is Memory Gospel a remix of
Graciosa ? (same samples, same chord progression at a moment I think) . Good
Cd if you skip the rap at the beginning (a Very Good unreleased Fatboy track
called Song for Lindy and the Crystal Method "Fifa 98" theme that I like
quite much and MOBY-good track by the way but the Memory Gospel samples... I
can't get use to them on another track)

Have a nice week end :)

Matthieu, a Fatboy Slim and Moby (and AIR also -too good !) fan.
http://www.multimania.com/evilninja/index.html

np: Fluke - Referundum (Edit) (Senseless soundtrack of course: bought it half
an hour ago ! Good track this one.)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Mystery CD
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:27:22 EST

Add N to X is a band. Maybe moby made a remix for them. Matthieu



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby/bsteez
Date: 19 Nov 1999 12:38:05 -0800 (PST)


hurray!!! moby is remixing Bsteez/vice versa!

sorry iif this is a bit old but...

anyway so everybody which trak from "Play" should the
bsteez remix? (Bsteez is just how i spell "Beastie
Boys" just cuz its shorter ok??????? and i hate it
when "modern" "rock" station djs call them "The B
Boys" cuz it just sounds stupid...)

in case u havent heard, we heard sumwherez that Moby
is remixing the new Bsteez track "Alive" (great song,
if not exactly groundbreaking) and the Bsteez are
remixing a track from "Play" which is as yet undecided
(what the track they will remix is, that is)

ok so i think they should remix "Porcelain" i dunno,
it might sound cool. them doing something with the
"Down Slow" loop would be nice too, but uh i've heard
that in rap muzik before.... some song by the
Arsonists i think, uses that beat and bass....
actually, all Moby did was kinda add that ""whoosh"
type effect (you know what i mean?) and the piano loop
and the strings... of course i never heard the "long"
version, i dont buy singles, whats it like? i've also
heard the "South Side" loop (the beats and bassline
and cowbell) in 2wo acid jazz trax.

hmmmmm........ anymore for me to say...... i dont
know, what do you think?


making lots of suckers out of girls and boys,
PHIZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzo

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) and STUFF !
Date: 19 Nov 1999 22:19:09 +0100

>Bart, I don't smoke nor drink it's just that I don't manage to have the
good
>price I guess (are CdZone and German MusicExpress) or that I don't have
much
>money (more that I guess). I also  spend time searching for Moby gemms but
I
>don't arrive to get the old ones (UHF, Voodoo Child, Drug fits the Face
...)


I agree that the older stuff is hard to find... It also took me a lot of
time to find
them all and most of them I got on eBay! I'm still searching for a UHF CD
though.

>Just bought the Leftfield Africa Shox single. Clip really weird but I
>love the song.

Great clip & great song (the only decent one on the album IMO)
I listened to the single but I didn't buy it because of the lame remixes.

Bart
now on tv: Eraser





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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby LFO remix on ebay
Date: 19 Nov 1999 13:19:45 -0800 (PST)


right, i was just perusing thru ebay and i typed
Squarepusher and somehow it directed me to this:
a copy of the LFO "Tan Ta Ra" single with the Moby
remix, which is Outta print i believe? since this is
my fave remix of myine that Moby did 4 another group
(they have 2 copies at WPKN ;) heres the URL so
anybody who wants a copy can get one. crescent!

<htt://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBaylSAPl.dll?ViewItem&item=200296824>

and if that doesnt work just type in LFO WARP
SQUAREPUSHER APHEX TWIN MOBY or sumthin. it reallyhas
nuthin to do with AFX or SQPSH, jsut that they on WARP
too.

great!

"Ever since that dog bit off half my face, you act
like you don't wanna take my picture no more!" this
girl in my class, in one of the less obscene things
she says...
you don't even wanna hear the whole "fleas" thing ;)
PHIZZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ok.Not in NYC DAMMIT!~!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 17:31:38 EST

THE PARTY THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IS PROMOTED BY ULTRAWORLD I BELIEVE AND
IT'S IN DC....NOT FUCKIN NYC...ELIE



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Moby in NYC!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 17:32:58 EST

SORRY...i didn't mean to seem angry...it just pisses me off that they are not
partying over here..i love you all..




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play Limited edition (A bonus Cd) ? and STUFF
Date: 19 Nov 1999 17:34:53 EST

40 dollars...damm..i'll wait till the 29th and you tell me if it's worth
it..thank you...elie



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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ok.Not in NYC DAMMIT!~!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:46:51 -0800 (PST)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
> THE PARTY THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IS PROMOTED BY
> ULTRAWORLD I BELIEVE AND
> IT'S IN DC....NOT FUCKIN NYC...ELIE
>
>
WHAT! IS THIS PARTY WITH MOBY?
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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) and STUFF !
Date: 19 Nov 1999 15:58:22 -0800 (PST)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
> Bart, I don't smoke nor drink it's just that I don't
> manage to have the good
> price I guess (are CdZone and German MusicExpress)
> or that I don't have much
> money (more that I guess). I also  spend time
> searching for Moby gemms but I
> don't arrive to get the old ones (UHF, Voodoo Child,
> Drug fits the Face ...)
>
> I just got confirmed a Double CD Maxi Single named
> Come on Baby ! (CdMute200
> ? Don't know as it's not the same number on the
> order)
>
> Just bought second hand the Senseless soundtrack. Is
> Memory Gospel a remix of
> Graciosa ? (same samples, same chord progression at
> a moment I think) . Good
> Cd if you skip the rap at the beginning (a Very Good
> unreleased Fatboy track
> called Song for Lindy and the Crystal Method "Fifa
> 98" theme that I like
> quite much and MOBY-good track by the way but the
> Memory Gospel samples... I
> can't get use to them on another track)
>
> Have a nice week end :)
>
> Matthieu, a Fatboy Slim and Moby (and AIR also -too
> good !) fan.
> http://www.multimania.com/evilninja/index.html
>
> np: Fluke - Referundum (Edit) (Senseless soundtrack
> of course: bought it half
> an hour ago ! Good track this one.)
>
> say youve heard of AIR, then in that case have you
heard of the Innerzone Orchestra. Astralwerks is also
their label. I asked the label when theyll be on tour.
 They said some time in 2000
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ok.Not in NYC DAMMIT!~!!!
Date: 19 Nov 1999 19:20:22 EST

he's djing in DC for this big Ultraworld party they have down there on the
27th...people got it confused and thought he was gonna dj in NYC....just a
misunderstanding...peace..eli



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby on VH1's the List
Date: 19 Nov 1999 22:30:06 EST

Hey all!

I odn't know if this has been mentioned before or not but I was watching tv
and happen to run across VH1's The List.  It seems that Moby will be amking
an appearance on the show next week.  They were showing previews of all the
guests and they mentioned him.  He was wearing these big glasses with black
frames.  Anyone catch that too? was this a rerun?


Marisa



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: Fatboy Slim, White Ppl and MOBY controversies
Date: 20 Nov 1999 01:12:24 -0600

>The media often lets ppl of color, gender or orientation make those
>comments,

I've heard of people of color, but people of gender or [sexual]
orientation? So, are you saying that I have no gender or have no sexual
orientation?

:)

--
 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"





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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OT: Fatboy Slim, White Ppl and MOBY controversies
Date: 20 Nov 1999 02:54:18 -0700

>
>
> >I've heard of people of color, but people of gender or [sexual]
> >orientation? So, are you saying that I have no gender or have no sexual
> >orientation?

No, I'm confused...how did you get that? :-)

---kimby




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From: Daniel Blackwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 20 Nov 1999 06:15:06 -0800 (PST)

what is the LI concert, the only concert i'm aware of is the towson one
at Rucher's Theatre(w/ Lo-Fidelity Allstars) on Thanksgiving and then
engage on Sat.? If you know of any other dates that he's having a show
that would be great!!!

Thanks
-Dan

--- [e-mail] wrote:
> I'm assuming you guys are talking about the LI concert.  The concert
> is not
> on Thanksgiving day its the day before.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/18/99 3:21:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> << also..what kind of a stupid day for a
>  concert is thanksgiving? >>
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) and STUFF !
Date: 20 Nov 1999 12:56:45 EST

[e-mail] wrote
> say youve heard of AIR, then in that case have you
heard of the Innerzone Orchestra. Astralwerks is also
their label. I asked the label when theyll be on tour.
 They said some time in 2000

I have to say that I began to know Air because they won a trophy called
Victory of Music here but I didn't really listen to that kind of music
before. i'll try to here work from Innerzone Orchestra.
Don't forget Air next album : Soundtrack of The Virgin Suicide by the
daughter of Coppola I think.

Just received from Action the Eiw Interview disc (45 minutes of Moby
speaking, I'll try to work that in the English class !), and the Excerpts
from Play disc (one for me and one for a friend to make him discover Moby).
Nice cover but early fade out on every track ! None of them last more than 3
minutes, thanks very much Mute ! ;(

Matthieu
http://www.multimania.com/evilninja/index.html

np: Bob Marley vs Funkstar Deluxe - Sun is shining



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage and thanksgiving..
Date: 20 Nov 1999 12:59:52 EST

The concert in LI is on Wednesday November 24th at 7 pm
at The Vanderbilt Plainview, LI starting Moby and the Lo-Fidelity All Stars.


In a message dated 11/20/99 9:17:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< what is the LI concert, the only concert i'm aware of is the towson one
 at Rucher's Theatre(w/ Lo-Fidelity Allstars) on Thanksgiving and then
 engage on Sat.? If you know of any other dates that he's having a show
 that would be great!!!
  >>



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mobility archives/XERO PRODUCTS/grand list
Date: 20 Nov 1999 13:28:10 -0800 (PST)


heh hey folks, i was searching "Xero Products" on
yahoo just cuz im damn bored, and i stumbled across
some old school Mobility archives: back when Ryu was
on the list, Xero Products came out with "Lull" and we
did that first tribute cd thingy. damn, those were
good times for Mobility! ;) i also noticed that you
folks had mentioned the Pixies before! like, "i think
Moby should cover "Gouge Away"" and then
CLAYEVOLUTION2000 responded. damn i miss him. shit, i
could still email him ya know......

anyway check this out for a chuckle:

<http:www.moby.org/archives/1998/m980225.html>

rock! we also discussed Moby going ska: wouldnt it be
cool if he did "One Step Beyond" or Less Than Jake?
that sort of thing. or a ska version of "Everytime You
Touch Me" ;)
okay, any OLD SCHOOL mobility folks have any good
memories about this list? sorry if thats a bit
exclusionary to newer members..... oh well!

also, TO XAQ: i believe there's another Xero Products
out. check this URL (ha ha!):

<http://www.xerosox.com>

also, i made this huge pointless list of all the shit
i've been listenin to lately for the last 6 months. i
need a life. the top 20:

1. Play (duh?)
2. TMBG: Lincoln
3. Python: Final Rip Off
4. Chems: Surrender
5. Radical Of Genius (my latest recording, which is so
high cuz i recorded it in 2-3 of these months... i
listened to it last night and god is it bad... in a
good way i guess..... the Sifl & Olly covers were fun
;)
6. Stereolab's new album (fuck the critics: THIS ALBUM
IS BRILLIANT!!!!!)
7. S&O all the old shit i have on tape
8. TMBG 1st album (cuz everything that's right is
wrong again)
9. AFX Classics (Polynomial-C rules!)
10. TMBG Flood
11. Purple Monkey Dishwasher (another tape i did this
year, equally awful ;)
12. 808:88:98
13. Coldcut More Beats + Pieces
14. TMBG Apollo 18 (mostly "Fingertips" ;)
15. Weird Al VH1 Specials (the best thing VH1 has ever
done, by FAR.... 2nd best is proclaiming "911 is a
joke" best song of the 90s on the list ;) "Protection"
by Massive Attack was tied for 3rd also, BTW ;)
16. Python reruns (damn A&E, lets all yell at them for
cancelling them!)
17. Bsteez: License to ill
18. ATR: 60 Sec. W/O
19. Bsteez: Check yr hed
20. Weird Al Runnin With Scissors (which my mom has
just bought me for Chanukah, but i'm not supposed to
know yet)


alright, you've had enough of me so bye, but here's a
very fun movie quote:

"I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast!"
"You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?"
"....No!"
PPPPPPPppppppppppPPPPPPPPPPpppppphhhhhhhhh aw helll
>>>PAUL<<<

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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) DJ cake/rarer moby
Date: 20 Nov 1999 13:56:30 -0800 (PST)

no, im not gonna ask the damn "is moby really DJ
Cake?" question.

just wanna know, What does the DJ Cake songs sound
like? their like the only Moby singles i've never
heard, i guess. that and some of the Voodoo Child
stuff. i mean, the only A-sides i never heard.
actually, probly not, but who cares.

has "Robot Of Pop Feel Me Rock" ever been properly
released? ;) whats it like?

uh........ well bye folks i guess

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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) (non-moby) NO MORE AMP???
Date: 20 Nov 1999 13:58:33 -0800 (PST)


folks i just went over to amp.mtv.com and looked at
the playlist and it says.....gasp..... "Season finale"
for the new playlist. does this mean theyre cancelling
AMP? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


library closed. bye!

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From: "daley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) (non-moby) NO MORE AMP???
Date: 20 Nov 1999 15:41:55 -0700

generally season finale means SEASON finale, not SERIES. MTV would have a
stick up their ass if they ever cancelled that, id make sure of it.
P.L.U.R.  -dale-
going into submission trying to enjoy the slow ride down to full effect of
the thought of you..
-me




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby on vh1
Date: 20 Nov 1999 23:39:04 EST

moby will be a guest on vh1's show the "list" this coming week.  not sure
which day though.  4 more days til i see moby at the vanderbilt!
~animal lib, veganism



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From: "daley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby and taco bell??????
Date: 20 Nov 1999 22:36:05 -0700

for 3 days straight now ive heard Bodyrock being played while i was in Taco
Bell of all places. kind of neato to be standing there waiting for your
burritos with moby humming around you.
P.L.U.R.  -dale-
going into submission trying to enjoy the slow ride down to full effect of
the thought of you..
-me




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on vh1
Date: 21 Nov 1999 00:43:18 EST

He will be appearing on:

The List Mon Nov22
VH1 19, 7-7:30pm
Best Female Rock Star
Best female rock star: host Andy Dick;
with Gavin Rossdale, Debrah Farentino,
Andrew Bowen, Moby. Stereo.


In a message dated 11/20/99 11:39:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< moby will be a guest on vh1's show the "list" this coming week.  not sure
 which day though. >>



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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) facelift...
Date: 21 Nov 1999 15:33:31 +0100

My Moby site at http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/ has had a facelift!

it now has:
- a less crappy view at resolutions higher than 640x480 (I hope)
- lots of nice graphics
- a far from perfect, but WAY better and faster HTML source code
  (I'm still learning) than my previous versions of this site

Yesterday my CSS script kept on bugging, but when I checked it today it
worked fine...strange.

I still haven't heard anything about this mysterious Spanish Porcelain
single, perhaps it was just a rumour?

got to do homework now :( .... bye!
(<>,,<>) ===> np: Sven VΣth - An accident in paradise




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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) VH1 the list/uther stuff
Date: 21 Nov 1999 06:48:07 -0800 (PST)

ok i was watching VH! cuz they were doing the whole
Weird Al thing again (weird al is a friggin
GENIUS!!!!!!) and they had a commercial for "The List"
and Moby was on it!

so watch VH1 every night at 7 PM eastern or whatever
to see if Moby is on! yay!

the live weird al concert was a tad dissaopinting,
tho. i mean he played a bunch of genius classics:
Smells Like Nirvana, Gump (not the best song ever, but
it damn rocks), DARE TO BE STUPID (greatest line in
muzik ever: STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE MICROWAVE AND GET
YOURSELF A TAN) etc. but well  the crowd didnt totally
seem to be havin it. o well, they were all like 9
years old and their parents, so i guess they didnt
know how to ROCK yet. i even saw one guy readin the
newspaper during the show! you suck!

MTV also did the special about the  new REM video.
rock, REM are also geniuses. the song rules, the video
is pretty good too, and it will absolutely bomb on the
charts cuz nobody gives a shit about REM anymore. but
who cares, they rock still. also, many times i see
Stipe and i SWEAR he's Moby. damn. of course Moby's
speaking voice doesnt ever sound like i think it would
sound like. i mean, when he's doing interviews, he
doesnt even sound like "The Sky Is Broken" or
anything. he sounds like an old man, kind of. kind of
like how i thikn Stipe should sound like.

whatever. and also, MTV showed the Euro awards.
UNDERWORLD played live!!!!!!! rock!!!!!!!!!!!! not
that any teenyboppers cared, but that was still
crescent. they must rock live. i'd love to see
them.......

heh and seeing Mary J Blige doing the best R&B award
with Damon Albarn was kind of interesting..... of
course Damon didnt really do anything..... hmmmm, i
could imagine all these black girls in America saying
like "i know thats Mary, and i know thats Whitney, but
whos that white guy jumping up and down???" or sumthin
;)

hmmmmmm........ okay thats it.

Mashed potatoes can be your friends,
PHIZZO/PAUL

=====
Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!!
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
[e-mail]
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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) whut tha funk
Date: 21 Nov 1999 06:58:51 -0800 (PST)


right someone asked about this compilation coming out
called something like "What the Funk You Talking Bout"
or whatever, basically its a compilation of recent
dance stuff on V2, i read about it in Billbaord (maybe
i shoulda posted it to the list then? nah....) and the
Olav Basoski mix of Bodyrock is on it.

heh i was at the Grand Royal website recently and it
said that the BS2000 record is back in print! rock! i
heard it on a college station a while ago, its just
this crazy cut up hip hop shit. anybody whos into that
crazy shit needs a copy. grandroyal.com i think.

alright, now bye (cant wait for the beastie/moby
remixes!)

I cant hear you,
Okay I can hear you now,
PHIZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO J.

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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby vs. BStees
Date: 21 Nov 1999 17:14:06 +0100

Paul wrote:
>alright, now bye (cant wait for the beastie/moby remixes!)


Is this certain?  Have you got release dates?

Bart
np: Leftfield - Song of life (radio edit)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) VH1 the list/uther stuff
Date: 21 Nov 1999 12:22:50 EST

He will be appearing on:

The List Mon Nov22
VH1 19, 7-7:30pm
Best Female Rock Star
Best female rock star: host Andy Dick;
with Gavin Rossdale, Debrah Farentino,
Andrew Bowen, Moby. Stereo.




In a message dated 11/21/99 9:48:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< so watch VH1 every night at 7 PM eastern or whatever
 to see if Moby is on! yay! >>



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) (non-moby) NO MORE AMP???
Date: 21 Nov 1999 14:44:07 EST

In a message dated 11/20/1999 1:59:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< folks i just went over to amp.mtv.com and looked at
 the playlist and it says.....gasp..... "Season finale"
 for the new playlist. does this mean theyre cancelling
 AMP? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 >>

SEASON, not Series.. Means its the last new one for awhile... either reruns
or replacing it with something else until they get off their lazy bums and
come up with new stuff... But I don't know why they'd do that... It's like
having a season finale of TRL... no point to it... Mtv is stupid...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on vh1
Date: 21 Nov 1999 14:47:01 EST

In a message dated 11/20/1999 9:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Andy Dick;
 with Gavin Rossdale, Debrah Farentino,
 Andrew Bowen, Moby. Stereo.
  >>


Andy Dick is funny.. But Gavin and Moby?  Ech.  Talk about different ends of
the spectrum... Gavin is the poster boy pinup of the attemptive carrying out
of grunge which has been failing miserably the past few years which is
terrible...  Gavin's stuck in the same scene, and then you have moby- the
anti-poster boy who isn't stuck in any one particular genre which makes him
all the more loveable.....  Dude, that could be interesting...  Monday 7:30,
must remember.....



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby mondaY!/inside?
Date: 21 Nov 1999 11:49:31 -0800 (PST)


heh i was listening to WLIR 98.5/92.7 in Long Island i
think and they said tomorrow is Moby monday....
everytime u hear Moby call in and u get Moby
tickets.... damn i wish Radio 104 or sum shit  we have
here would do that! and not only that but the Lo Fi
Allstars open for him. damn, why didnt somebody cool
like that open for him at Toads. oh well. BTW, i've
heard that the Toad's show was the opening nite of the
tour, is that true?

also i read on the moby discography about an old tape
from 1998 or so, of Moby bootlegs: Double Tap score,
Novio with drums, all unreleased shit, etc. and theres
a track called "Inside". first of all, WHERE/HOW CAN I
GET THIS TAPE and does this "Inside" have anything to
do with the "Play" song "Inside"?

bye!!!!!!

np:Inside (guh, from "Play")

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From: natalie leblanc <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) the vanderbilt
Date: 21 Nov 1999 13:19:07 -0800 (PST)

hey guys--
i am from nyc and am going to see moby at the
vanderbilt on wednesday by myself.  i was wondering if
anybody knew the safest mode of transport from the
train station to plainview and back since i'm assuming
i'll be returning around 1am.  thanks.  natalie.
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From: "Mark Honeychurch" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) The Movie DOGMA
Date: 19 Nov 1999 08:58:09 +1000


The shirts can be found at

http://store.yahoo.com/jsbstash/dogmatshirts.html

I'm off to see Moby tomorrow night at Bay 33 in Sydney.  Looking forward =
to it, as the last time I saw him play was at the Reading festival when he =
did his Animal Rights stuff.



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From: "David \"DT007\" Toews" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) MOBY ON THE SIMPSONS!!!
Date: 21 Nov 1999 21:34:47 -0800

This is quick, but I was just watching the new Simpson's (Sunday night) and
as they were introducing the Octuplets, they played Moby, I think from Moby,
Moby.. Ill find the song, and check back later.
DT




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY ON THE SIMPSONS!!!
Date: 21 Nov 1999 20:52:41 EST

i missed the beging of it but i caught the ending. damn it, now i regret it.
what song was it? do you know?

~Jeff



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) I heard Moby....
Date: 21 Nov 1999 21:30:33 EST

Hey all!

My friends were shopping at the Gap (don't ask me why, yuck) so I was stuck
in the store while they looked around.  As I was waiting, what do I hear
playing none other than Moby.  I was so excited I was jumping up and down
like a freak!  The workers started looking at me funny and oh well to hell
with them.  I was dancing to the whole song, Natural Blues.  I was really
hyped up cause I'll be seeing him again this coming wednesday, I can't wait.
Just thought I share my moment of happiness. Lataz!

Marisa



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Reverb MP3
Date: 21 Nov 1999 21:11:46 -0600

Hi Folks,
  Unless someone else wants to, I volunteer to mp3 the Moby songs from Tuesday's
Reverb on HBO.  I'll probably get to do it Wednesday morning, Thursday at the
latest.  I was wondering if anybody would donate some server space so that i
could upload them and let everyone enjoy.

If anyone has any ideas or ftp sites... let me know!


----Rob "King of MP3" Skipworth




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From: "Kelbert" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY ON THE SIMPSONS!!!
Date: 21 Nov 1999 22:41:49 -0800



----------
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY ON THE SIMPSONS!!!
> Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 5:52 PM
>
> i missed the beging of it but i caught the ending. damn it, now i regret
it.
> what song was it? do you know?
>
> ~Jeff

im pretty sure it was drop a beat.  anyone confirm/deny?
i was on the phone when the clip came on so i wasn't exactly paying
complete attention.

-kelly



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From: "Jonathan Singletary" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby on the simpsons!
Date: 21 Nov 1999 21:53:30 -0600

did anyone see the simpsons tonight??

they played 'drop a beat'   for a few seconds!

how cool is that???!    :-)

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From: "Jake M." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY ON THE SIMPSONS!!!
Date: 21 Nov 1999 20:36:29 PST

I saw this too. I believe it was Drop a Beat from Self Titled...but I did
not have a long enough time to listen to...it was only played for about
15-20 seconds if that. But hey...its moby on the Simpsons...can it get any
better than that??? Well if he was on the Simpsons!

NP: Public Enemy: "It takes a nation..."

Jake
-- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html --
"The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato


>This is quick, but I was just watching the new Simpson's (Sunday night) and
>as they were introducing the Octuplets, they played Moby, I think from
>Moby,
>Moby.. Ill find the song, and check back later.
>DT
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY ON THE SIMPSONS!!!
Date: 21 Nov 1999 23:39:54 EST

I heard it too!!!!! i was soooo happy :)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) MOBY ON VH1 TONIGHT!
Date: 22 Nov 1999 02:59:25 EST

hey guys, moby will be on the "list" tonight on vh1 at 7 and 11pm est!!!
~animal liberation, veganism



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: NMR question about CD's
Date: 22 Nov 1999 13:38:02 +0200

> CDs contain digital data... you've either got it, or you don't. None of
> these things should accomplish anything but damaging your CDs.

that's right, but it happens often, that you don't get the data (scratches or
other surface damage) and then the cdplayer somehow approximates the data
according to previous and following bytes. and that causes the noise they were
trying to avoid by putting the cd in the fridge in order to get less of the
usual surface damage.
but i think it's a dirty crap too.

well, i prefer painting your whole cd with a black felt-tip pen, so that it
look like a vynil. :)

bye.
kohut.

p.s. one other question, is there some ftp server with all (or almost all) moby
songs as mp3s ? because if not, i'd like to make some, when we get internet
connection to my youth hostel. does anybody now if 500 megs of disc space would
be enough ? i guess yes, but who knows.




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mobility archives/XERO PRODUCTS/grand list
Date: 22 Nov 1999 07:57:59 -0600 (CST)

well, thanks for thinking of me!

actually, i DO have a new cd available, and you can listen to bits of it
at www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/xeroproducts.html
you can't get the entire songs, but you should be able to hear enough to
want to buy the cd!
i'm constantly updating my site, so visit often! new pix from the last
"progress" comming very soon, as well as lots more xero products mp3s.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/





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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mobility archives/XERO PRODUCTS/grand list
Date: 22 Nov 1999 07:57:59 -0600 (CST)

well, thanks for thinking of me!

actually, i DO have a new cd available, and you can listen to bits of it
at www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/xeroproducts.html
you can't get the entire songs, but you should be able to hear enough to
want to buy the cd!
i'm constantly updating my site, so visit often! new pix from the last
"progress" comming very soon, as well as lots more xero products mp3s.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
             but i really enjoy thinking."
             Masafumi Sanai-photographer

              www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/





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From: DJ Pagan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Acquisitions and a Treat
Date: 22 Nov 1999 09:53:46 -0800 (PST)

Hello Mobility-ites!

Okay, what have I gotten thus far, that is Moby
related, you ask?  Okay, I'll tell you!

All That I Need Is To Be Loved - Promo.
Same songs, different availability.

James Bond There - Promo
The :58 audio bio is actually kind of neat to
listen to, almost feel like he was in the room,
that "up-close", radio mike talk. :)

Also, for a taste of Deepsky (they're remixing
Natural Blues, right?) and for Paul Oakenfold,
might I suggest a few sites to peruse:

Deepsky:
shows.raveworld.net (look on the right)

Paul Oakenfold:
http://mtv.com/mtv/music/amp/oakenfeld.html

Richie Hawtin:
http://mtv.com/mtv/music/amp/music.html

Moby:
http://mtv.com/mtv/music/amp/alert_moby.html

Enjoy all!

=====
DJ Pagan
"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark
 closet and listen to Dead Cities?"
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Acquisitions and a Treat
Date: 22 Nov 1999 13:34:11 EST

speaking of paul oakenfold, i cannot wait till his remix of natural blues cuz
the new tranceport cd with him is incredible....a must buy...i might b seeing
him in thanksgiving nite in NYC...peace..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Acquisitions and a Treat
Date: 22 Nov 1999 15:49:34 EST

The new Tranceport is really dope!  I'll be seeing Paul Oakenfold and Dave
Ralph on Thanksgiving!

Anymore info on the Natural Blues remix? when is it supposed to be released?


Thanks!

Marisa



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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Reverb MP3
Date: 22 Nov 1999 13:14:26 -0800 (PST)



--- Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>   Unless someone else wants to, I volunteer to mp3
> the Moby songs from Tuesday's
> Reverb on HBO.  I'll probably get to do it Wednesday
> morning, Thursday at the
> latest.  I was wondering if anybody would donate
> some server space so that i
> could upload them and let everyone enjoy.
>
> If anyone has any ideas or ftp sites... let me know!
>
>
> ----Rob "King of MP3" Skipworth
>
>
>
y not set up a site at xoom.com for that. its free
unlimited space. my friend has a site with them
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Acquisitions and a Treat
Date: 22 Nov 1999 18:19:01 EST

how much are tix for the paul oakenfold and dave ralph...i might go to that
also..peace..elie



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From: "Chris Hand" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby's new famous line
Date: 22 Nov 1999 19:21:09 -0800

Heh Moby's new famous line
"Everybody's Bisexual"

:P

Later,
Chris

"Do you see your own reflection in the serpent's eyes?"
http://come.to/tripwire
http://www.mp3.com/tinsin
http://mymomhatesme.com




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From: megan check <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's new famous line
Date: 22 Nov 1999 17:42:09 -0800 (PST)

I loved that. I was laughing so hard when he said
that. To see the looks on everyone's faces. I mean.
It's the 90's and people just have to except things.
Be open minded. And I agree with Moby that everyone,
whether they believe it or not, is in a way bisexual.
You just have to Face It.

--- Chris Hand <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Heh Moby's new famous line
> "Everybody's Bisexual"
>
> :P
>
> Later,
> Chris
>
> "Do you see your own reflection in the serpent's
> eyes?"
> http://come.to/tripwire
> http://www.mp3.com/tinsin
> http://mymomhatesme.com
>
>
>

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From: "daley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's new famous line
Date: 22 Nov 1999 19:19:21 -0700

>"Everybody's Bisexual"

i second that one.

P.L.U.R.  -dale-
going into submission trying to enjoy the slow ride down to full effect of
the thought of you..
-me




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From: "Derek ~" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby tabs
Date: 22 Nov 1999 19:56:52 MST

hi
i was wondering if anyone knows where you can get tabs to any of moby's
songs like 'that's when i reach for my revolver' and track 14 on play, sorry
i don't remember the name to that song.
if you do can you email me at this address
[e-mail]
thanks
laterz all
-derek

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's new famous line
Date: 22 Nov 1999 22:23:05 EST

sure...everyone is bisexual......but me..love..elie



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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Seattle Show Cancelled!!!!
Date: 22 Nov 1999 19:31:16 -0800 (PST)

:'(

Oh my gawd!  I am sooooo sad and heart broken!

I just got information from the venue that Moby's Dec. 16 Seattle show was
cancelled. No word as to why.

This was my ONE chance to see songs from Play live and now i'm not going
to get it.  Damn.  I'm going to go cry.

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Acquisitions and a Treat
Date: 22 Nov 1999 22:30:54 EST

the tixx are priced at $18 at the Roxy!

Good luck!

Hopefully they'll have some left!

Marisa



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 22 Nov 1999 23:38:23 EST

Hello all!

          I have a question. My friend "claims" that he "saw Moby" signing
autographs in a Harmony House in Dearborn. And.... This kid doesnt even know
who Moby is! I asked him what he looked like and he said, tall, skinny, bald,
yet one thing set me off..... He said that he saw a tatoo on the back of
"Moby's" neck..... What the????


                                                        ~Felicia






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From: "Joshua Schilling" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby tabs
Date: 22 Nov 1999 22:44:06 -0600

oh...if anyone does know, then please email me as well...

thank you

josh at [e-mail]

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 8:56 PM


> hi
> i was wondering if anyone knows where you can get tabs to any of moby's
> songs like 'that's when i reach for my revolver' and track 14 on play,
sorry
> i don't remember the name to that song.
> if you do can you email me at this address
> [e-mail]
> thanks
> laterz all
> -derek
>
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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 22 Nov 1999 21:03:22 -0800 (PST)

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> I have a question. My friend "claims" that he "saw Moby" signing
> autographs in a Harmony House in Dearborn. And.... This kid doesnt even
> know who Moby is! I asked him what he looked like and he said, tall,
> skinny, bald, yet one thing set me off..... He said that he saw a tatoo
> on the back of "Moby's" neck..... What the????

Well, it could have been Moby.  Although i wouldn't say he is "tall".  :)
When i met him i noticed he had a small tattoo on the back of his neck
which looked like a cross.  It's very cool looking and i would love to get
a picture of it.

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html




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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) VH1 Appearance
Date: 22 Nov 1999 23:10:09 -0600

I got it on tape, and just got done watching it, if anyone is interested in
screen captures or entire video captures, then let me know, otherwise it
stays in my tape collection.


Anyway, I thought that he and Andy Dick hit it off--they danced and mock
fought at the end.

The topic was "Best female ROCKSTAR"

Moby's list was as such:

1. PJ Harvey
2. Courtney Love
3. Kim Gordon

I was kind of pissed that Moby got boo'ed TWICE!  Once witht that
"everyone's bisexual" comment and a second time when he picked Courtney
Love.

Chris




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From: Anne N Thalheimer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's new famous line
Date: 23 Nov 1999 00:10:02 -0500 (EST)

see, but it isn't just moby saying this--Freud said it (man, I never
thought I'd be talking about freud and moby in the same sentence,
but...!) ages & ages ago about everyone basically being bisexual. i just
thought it was this keen little in-joke between andy dick (who's stated in
print that he identifies as bi) & moby who does as well, more or
less--check out the 22 june issue of the advocate...

okay. back to my evil little dissertation.
anne


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, megan check wrote:

> I loved that. I was laughing so hard when he said
> that. To see the looks on everyone's faces. I mean.
> It's the 90's and people just have to except things.
> Be open minded. And I agree with Moby that everyone,
> whether they believe it or not, is in a way bisexual.





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From: "Damian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 18:36:35 +1300

A cross...... but he's in Australasia at the moment isn't he? Or is he back
in the states.....

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
[e-mail]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 1999 17:38


Hello all!

          I have a question. My friend "claims" that he "saw Moby" signing
autographs in a Harmony House in Dearborn. And.... This kid doesnt even know
who Moby is! I asked him what he looked like and he said, tall, skinny,
bald,
yet one thing set me off..... He said that he saw a tatoo on the back of
"Moby's" neck..... What the????


                                                        ~Felicia








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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: Question  :) (Tattoo)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 00:38:13 -0500 (EST)

>> yet one thing set me off..... He said that he saw a tatoo on the back of "Moby's" neck..... What the????

Yes, Moby has a tattoo of a cross on the back of his neck, above the collar line.  You can see it clearly on the picture inside the cover sleeve for "I Like To Score" (In which I'm about halfway back in the crowd, on the right hand side!).

Mark.

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From: "pat flynn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: NMR question about CD's
Date: 23 Nov 1999 06:12:32 GMT


i dont know what the question was but if it was about scratches on cds i
heard a really effective way of fixing that
rub the cd with some form of linen and then put toothpaste on it and rub it
in with a paper towel, be gentle and never ever rub in circles then wash it
clean and the scratches are gone, it really works.

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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby on new comp
Date: 23 Nov 1999 07:35:05 -0600

this was in a rolling stone email i got today.... i don't think its been
mentioned yet....
anyone know what "exclusive" track he's releasing?

--rob


MOBY, BLUR, MEGADETH, G. LOVE & SPECIAL SAUCE and STEREOPHONICS have
contributed exclusive tracks to "Music 4 Food," a limited-edition compilation
organized by Food.com and America's Second Harvest. The album will be passed to

students who donate food on select college campuses






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 08:46:20 EST

he does have a tatoo...it's like a cross....totally true man..peace..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 08:47:17 EST

if you have the I like to Score album...there's a pic inside that shows his
back and you can see the tattoo...i'm spent...i need a shower and a cup of
coffee...love..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on new comp
Date: 23 Nov 1999 10:25:14 EST


In a message dated 11/23/99 8:42:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< this was in a rolling stone email i got today.... i don't think its been
 mentioned yet....
 anyone know what "exclusive" track he's releasing?

 --rob


 MOBY, BLUR, MEGADETH, G. LOVE & SPECIAL SAUCE and STEREOPHONICS have
 contributed exclusive tracks to "Music 4 Food," a limited-edition compilation
 organized by Food.com and America's Second Harvest. The album will be passed
to

 students who donate food on select college campuses
  >>

well, i read somewhere that the "exclusive" track is 'flying foxes'.  some of
the other tracks on there will include:
blur - all we want
g. love - remix of rude clown
megadeath - remix of insomnia
stereophonics - a live version of the bartender and the thief

... and here's the list of participating schools:
Loyola University
Northwestern University
University Of Chicago
Seattle University
University Of Washington
Santa Clara University
San Jose State University
Stanford University
San Francisco State
University of California, Berkeley

for more info go to:
www.food.com/music

-t i n a




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) VH1 Appearance
Date: 23 Nov 1999 13:43:21 EST

He so made the show.. Gavin Rossdale is so dull, no wonder his new album
sucked...  I was cracking up the entire time though..



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Damn, Damn Double Damn
Date: 23 Nov 1999 14:36:13 EST

Moby's tour schedule totally sucks for me...  He's doing New Years in Miami
(no fair, wrong side of the continent) then off to Europe throughout
February... Grr ness a lot...  Tour list can be found here:

http://www.pollstar.com/tour/a.cgi?Artist=Moby

Maybe he'll come to Cali in March as a b-day present for me (yeah right, I
know).. Ruin my wonderful week....



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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 13:05:50 -0800 (PST)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
> he does have a tatoo...it's like a cross....totally
> true man..peace..elie
>
>
i wonder where he got it done. i just cant see Moby in
a biker tatoo parlor
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From: Ben Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: NMR question about CD's
Date: 23 Nov 1999 13:09:16 -0800 (PST)



--- pat flynn <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> i dont know what the question was but if it was
> about scratches on cds i
> heard a really effective way of fixing that
> rub the cd with some form of linen and then put
> toothpaste on it and rub it
> in with a paper towel, be gentle and never ever rub
> in circles then wash it
> clean and the scratches are gone, it really works.
>
> relly people this is stupid-why does it matter?
sufrace scratches wont affect the playing.  A cd is
digital, as long as it can be read the sound will
always be the same.  putting it in the fridge or
coating it in toot paste wont do jack
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From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) for all ya Moby & mp3 lovers
Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:22:03 +0100

Ok, now I'm sort of done with my website I'll get back to
making Moby Winamp (Macamp) skins. I was playing
around with Winamp today and suddenly I got that
uncontrolable urge to make a Moby skin again!

The one I'm working on now is based on the front picture
on the Ambient CD from 1993, and (yes, again...) it will
be very blue. I dunno why, I just like the color blue.

My eyes are blue...

I'll let y'all know when it will be ready!

Hey Tommy, are you still on the list? Can I post your
SUPER cool Run On skin on my site?  Or Steve, you
know Tom, right? Perhaps you could ask him...

(<>,,<>) http://www.geocities.com/animal_sight/
np: Magic Affair - Give me all you love





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From: "Damian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 10:28:45 +1300

Maybe prison?  ha ha ha!!!  I could really imagine that!!!

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Ben Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 1999 10:06




--- [e-mail] wrote:
> he does have a tatoo...it's like a cross....totally
> true man..peace..elie
>
>
i wonder where he got it done. i just cant see Moby in
a biker tatoo parlor
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Question  :)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 16:42:22 EST

let me tell you people....gavin ros(whatever his last name is) also belongs
in a boy band...like the BBs....he is such a rockstar stereotype....you
know..all serious, mad at the world, incapable of reaching out to his fans...

While moby on the other hand, realizes that we only live once and might as
well have sex with the bi host of The List in reverence to Freud...elie



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: moby on the simpsons!
Date: 23 Nov 1999 14:08:50 -0800 (PST)



--- Jonathan Singletary <[e-mail]> wrote:
> did anyone see the simpsons tonight??
>
> they played 'drop a beat'   for a few seconds!
>
> how cool is that???!    :-)
>

yeah, when they did the showcase of the babies. heh i
like Animal the best! but  he's too young to rebel!

did u see FUTURAMA? damn, that show RULES. it's gonna
be a long time before somebody flushes down another
toilet string.

k bye!

=====
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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) vh1/cross
Date: 23 Nov 1999 14:32:21 -0800 (PST)


DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!

i forgot to watch the list yestrday. damn. i was
thinking about taping it if it came on later too.
any1ne know when they'll rerun it? please i hope they
rerun it! i bet they will, i've seen the one with
Hootie and the Blowfish about a thousand..... well,
okay twice. nonconsecutive days tho.

yeah, i saw his cross tatoo when i saw him at Toad's!
i heard he had one once but i wasnt sure.... think i'd
know about somethin like that right? wonder where he
got it?

hmmmmmm okay well then, bye!

Bender is the best folk singer since Beck,
PHHHHHHHHHHHizoooooooooo jobSSSSSSonnnn......

=====
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SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) vh1/cross
Date: 23 Nov 1999 17:56:13 EST

They are replaying the List with Moby tonight at 11:00 Eastern time, so I
hear. I missed it too so I'm hoping that it is on.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Other Reverb airings
Date: 23 Nov 1999 20:31:22 EST

There's no way that I'm going to be able to watch reverb....  I have to up at
6 tomorrow morning and i'm completely zonked as is...  Damn holidays...  So
does anyone know when it will be airing?  I know I saw the Beck one like 5
times...  Stupid, stupid holidays.



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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damn, Damn Double Damn
Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:15:33 EST

The schedule sucks for me too. The only concert that is near me us 21+
dammit! Its the anti-Y2K 'Y2FU' concert in Boston, if anyone is going tell
me how it went.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby in MIXER!!!
Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:36:28 EST

Hey you guys!

I just got the new issue of Mixer magazine and guess who's is on the cover?!
None other than Moby himself and a nice big article about him.  So go and get
your copy!

By the way anyone going to the show tomorrow night in LI?

Cheers,
Marisa



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby in MIXER!!!
Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:37:53 EST

Hey you guys!

I just got the new issue of Mixer magazine and guess who's is on the cover?!
None other than Moby himself and a nice big article about him.  So go and get
your copy!

By the way anyone going to the show tomorrow night in LI?

Cheers,
Marisa



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From: "The Woxenpith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in MIXER!!!
Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:56:04 -0500


---
"If travel is searching
 Then home has been found"

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:37:53   MCJCREW wrote:
>Hey you guys!
>
>I just got the new issue of Mixer magazine and guess who's is on the cover?!
>None other than Moby himself and a nice big article about him.  So go and get
>your copy!
>
>By the way anyone going to the show tomorrow night in LI?
>
>Cheers,
>Marisa
>
>

i too have that issue. in fact ive had it for a while and i figured it had already been mentioned on the list, but i havent been reading lately, so, oh well. i was flipping through the channels a little while ago and saw moby on house of style. apparantly hes doing some modeling for calvin klein. i thought that was a bit weird.

THE SITE

http://victorius.com/SisterWOOD/letters/jiffy.htm

!)%@^*#^,
russ


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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby in the studio (video)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 08:43:58 PST


I noticed today that there's a feature at rollingstone.com that has Moby
taking RS on a video tour of his studio. It should be reachable from the
homepage for while, as RS usually leaves their features up for about a week.

Also, it seems Moby is quite friendly with the Star Wars crew. We've heard
about Natalie Portman before, and now I hear that Ewan McGregor was sleeping
backstage on a couch at the Sydney concert a few days ago.


-Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in the studio (video)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 12:04:05 EST

In a message dated 11/24/1999 8:45:02 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< and now I hear that Ewan McGregor was sleeping
 backstage on a couch at the Sydney concert a few days ago. >>

Ewan McGregor is so cool.. He did a cool song on Digital Empire.  Well not
really, they just used the speech from trainspotting and set it to techno
background..  But still, he has a cool voice...  He should do something with
moby, and I mean that in a totally non"everybody is bisexual" type of way.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in MIXER!!!
Date: 24 Nov 1999 18:10:29 EST

sorry..i had seen this but i thought someone had mentioned something about
it....i'm gonna make love to moby in my dreams tonite..jk...

HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING MOBILITY PEEPS...

MARISA...I WAS SOOO GONNA GO TO THE SHOW IN LI BUT I DECIDED NOT TO...OH
WELL..I MIGHT STILL BE GOING TO ENGAGE SATURDAY TO SEE MOBY DJ....LATER..ELIE



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Other Reverb airings
Date: 24 Nov 1999 22:15:23 EST

i heard that there are a total of 20 times it will be playing thru out the
week on all the weirdO hbo's if you have that fancy cable,  and you can check
em out on the reverb website.... so i hear anyway

meshell



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) here are the other reverb times
Date: 24 Nov 1999 22:23:46 EST


  Tue, Nov 23 11:30 pm   HBO East
  Tue, Nov 23 2:30 am   HBO West
  Thu, Nov 25 8:00 pm   HBOP East
  Thu, Nov 25 11:00 pm   HBOP West
  Fri, Nov 26 4:00 pm   HBO East
  Fri, Nov 26 7:00 pm   HBO West
  Fri, Nov 26 1:00 am   HBOP East
  Fri, Nov 26 4:00 am   HBOP West
  Sat, Nov 27 12:00 pm   HBO East
  Sat, Nov 27 3:00 pm   HBO West
  Sun, Nov 28 12:10 am   HBO East
  Sun, Nov 28 3:10 am   HBO West
  Mon, Nov 29 11:00 pm   HBOP East
  Mon, Nov 29 2:00 am   HBOP West



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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby pictures
Date: 24 Nov 1999 19:57:43 -0800 (PST)

hey - does anyone know of any websites out there that has a *huge*
collection of moby pictures?  i really like a lot of the pictures he has
featured on his singles and albums - but does anyone have copies of these
pictures by themselves, without all the text surrounding them?  kind of
like the Bjork Photo-graphy that has almost every single picture of her
out there organized by who took the pictures...

thanks!

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby at the Vanderbilt!
Date: 25 Nov 1999 03:25:32 EST

Hi everybody!  I wanted to share my happiness!

Well folks just got back from seeing Moby once again.  I must say that I'm
never disappointed with any of his performances. It gets better and better
all the time.
I must say the crowd was a little disappointing didn't like it at all. The
Roxy crowd was way better!!!

I waited around after the concert to see the man!  I got to meet him once
again and he was so sweet and nice.  I got to give him my gift, finally!  He
signed my book and gave me a kiss on the cheek and I was off to happyland!  I
could have stayed there hours with him to talk but the man was tired
especially since he had just gotten back from Australia and I had a long
drive ahead of me!  plus I didn't want to impose.  but I did forget to wish
him a Happy Thanksgiving! so if you are reading this Moby,
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

and Happy Thanksgiving to everybody at Mobility!

Cheers,
Marisa

P.S. Elie! wish you could've been there man!  He was amazing of course.  Well
I'm gonna have to catch you next time!  You are still planning to go up to
DC? how are you getting up there?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby at vanderbilt
Date: 25 Nov 1999 04:10:11 EST

saw moby in long island a few hours ago, he was great as usual.  the venue
was beautiful but the crowd was... not what im usually used to(from nyc).
half of them were 14 year olds w/ braces or 14 yr old ravers flashing their
glowsticks.  there was moshing at onepoint and body surfing. not cool.

anyway  moby played "purple rain" and a couple who were engaged got up on
stage and danced through the song.  the guy kept bumping into moby.  and when
he got down from the stage, kids were rubbing his head which i thought was
rude and moby looked a tiny irritated.  of course throughout the show he was
hilarious.

with the great luck that i have w/ moby i ran into him again when he was
walking these girls, his friends, to their car.  he said he was working on a
new movie called "the beach."  he also said he had lots of fun on "the list".
 anyway im way tired so i'll end here.

animal lib, veganism



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From: "Paul  Medeiros" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby article from my local newspaper
Date: 25 Nov 1999 10:51:30 -0500


Hi, Everybody
Check out this link to read a nice article about moby to promote his sunday
show in Providence.  It is all ages for the kiddies on the list.
-paul


http://www.projo.com/report/pjb/stories/02833881.htm




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From: "Anthony" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in the studio (video)
Date: 25 Nov 1999 11:07:55 -0800



>Also, it seems Moby is quite friendly with the Star Wars crew. We've heard
>about Natalie Portman before,


I've been gone for a while-
Will someone please tell me what's going on with Moby and Natalie Portman(if
anything)?  Are they friends?

Thank's




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From: "The   Woxenpith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V3 #38
Date: 25 Nov 1999 11:30:53 -0800

anyone know how i get the digest?

russ


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From: "Raven" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 25 Nov 1999 19:27:18 -0500

Is the FSR single worth paying $5 plus postage for?

Chris




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 26 Nov 1999 00:41:35 EST

sure man...for 5 dollars...elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Reverb
Date: 26 Nov 1999 12:51:42 EST

Well I finally saw Reverb, and it was very very cool...  I don't know if any
of you have seen Dana Carvey's comedy special, but in it he does this
impersonation of rock stars, and one of them was the immitation of the lead
singer who acts like he's all pissed off at the microphone, which Moby's
performance made me think of so I started laughing.  And the audience was
kinda boring....  Oh well....  Pretty cool.



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From: "wolfgang friedlich" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) disk!!!
Date: 26 Nov 1999 12:18:58 -0800

sup all,

yeah, i finally found Disk, it wuz only $12 here in T.O., i wuz ready to shell out $20-30 for it, and finally picked up the WDMHFSB single, i love the b-sides...

i also recently checked out launch.com, i can't stop watchin' tha Run On vid, Moby's so funny...

peace all, have a nice weekend,

Wolfgang



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) An Early X-Mas Present
Date: 26 Nov 1999 21:38:57 -0600

Well folks.... the time of gift giving is upon us!
I hope everyone enjoys this and please sign the guestbook.

I'll let you know when I get more posted......
:)

http://members.xoom.com/rskipwo/


Your pal,
Rob




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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) engage in dc - broadcast
Date: 26 Nov 1999 21:44:17 -0800 (PST)

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  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
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For those of us who can't make it to DC to catch Moby, digital noise is
going to be doing a live broadcast of the party all day tomorrow.

Check out the info below.  Damn, wish i could be there - that jungle
lineup is drool worthy!  :P~

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

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               .. digitalnoise ..
                  .. update ..

>1> SATURDAY NOV 27 - live from ENGAGE (drum'n'bass, techno, house)

The digi.crew has arrived safely in Washington :) We apologize for not
pulling off the remote broadcast of Feelgood on Friday night at Soup. Our
marvelous technology didn't quite work the way it was supposed to.

No worries though, we've got more music in store for you today than is
even imagineable. We're broadcasting live from the ENGAGE event down here
in Washington, DC. Put together by Ultraworld, 2Tuff and Sonic Soul, this
is possibly one of the best DJ lineups to ever hit the states. We'll be
broadcasting from two rooms, simultaneously with video courtesy of  the
Steetsound/pseudo.com crew.

DJs for the main room include Scott Henry, Moby, Donald Glaude, Derrick
May, and Dave Ralph. The drum'n'bass room features the likes of
Grooverider, Fabio, Ed Rush, Andy C, Bryan Gee, Storm and Bailey. For the
set times, check our site.

The broadcast will start approximately 12 noon EST and will go to 12
midnight EST. That 9am - 9pm PST and 5pm to 5am GMT. To tune in, point
your browser towards http://www.digitalnoise.com during the broadcast
hours. Make sure you stop by the chat to let us know how it sounds.

           *>>    E N G A G E     <<*

     saturday november 27 - washington d.c.
            >    live  webcast     <
           12 noon to 12 midnight EST

    check digitalnoise.com for complete info


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From: "Paul Vodra [Paradox]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Engage!
Date: 27 Nov 1999 02:24:07 -0500

Hey y'all, in case anyone's going to Engage tomorrow, look for me and
say hi.  I'll be wearing a Myst t-shirt (that should make me unique
enough).  I'm heading out there solo, so any company would be
appreciated!  And everybody who goes to this show, post reviews!  I
love reading reviews from Moby fans everywhere.

Paul



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From: TOMB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) flibbles
Date: 27 Nov 1999 14:51:36 +0000

I'm sorry, I don't read this anymore, but in a magazine I saw a lovely
advert, Moby's touring in 200, starting in London, coming soon are new
dates, PLEASE COME TO FUCKING NEWCASTLE



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From: "Shaunna Lawrrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:05:59 GMT
Date: 27 Nov 1999 09:06:07 -0700

Shaunna Lawrence
17
not much in collection, but enjoy it
when animal rights came out
also like: vast, tori amos,pj Harvey, NiN,Skinny puppy, ....more
i am VEGAN


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From: "alex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:05:59 GMT
Date: 27 Nov 1999 16:36:41 GMT

>Shaunna Lawrence
>17
>not much in collection, but enjoy it
>when animal rights came out
>also like: vast, tori amos,pj Harvey, NiN,Skinny puppy, ....more
>i am VEGAN


i've got a lot of friends who LOVE skinny puppy, though i'm not really a
fan.  what other electro bands are you into?  242?  gary numan?

-alex, having that first cup of joe in the morning
np:  gary numan "dominion day"

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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) An Early X-Mas Present
Date: 27 Nov 1999 12:28:28 -0800 (PST)

Hey thanks!!  What a cool present...and i didn't even get you anything! :)

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Rob Skipworth wrote:
> Well folks.... the time of gift giving is upon us!
> I hope everyone enjoys this and please sign the guestbook.
> I'll let you know when I get more posted......
> :)
> http://members.xoom.com/rskipwo/
> Your pal,
> Rob




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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) letterman
Date: 28 Nov 1999 03:54:17 -0600

Hey Moby fans!
    Did you love that Moby performance on Letterman?  Do you love how a free
copy was posted on the CBS website?  Do you HATE liquid audio?  Does it annoy
you that you can't listen to this track with winamp?

Well if you answered yes to any of these questions.... then I know a web page
for you!

members.xoom.com/rskipwo

Thats right!  Get the track you've always loved in its new form...... MPEG
SOUND


-----rob




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From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) My house is bigger than your house!
Date: 28 Nov 1999 12:27:15 +0200

I just noticed that My house is bigger than your house! compilation (2x12")
on bold! records have covers that moby had painted. Is anyone else noticed
this?

      -Sampsa "Samu" Heinonen-
         [e-mail]-



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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) stufff
Date: 28 Nov 1999 06:51:39 -0800 (PST)

hhey moby fans. just have to say, it was weird, a few
days ago when he did the Vanderbilt show w/ Lo Fi
Allstars, this station WLIR was like broadcasting from
tha show. they wernet playing any of the show, but
they were like "yeah well i'm at the show and Moby's
playing right now" but they werent actually letting us
hear Moby. so i just turned up all the cool Moby shit
i have to feel the vibe. cuz knowing that people are
feeling that same damn crescent fresh vibe that i felt
that night in July, knowing people are THAT DAMN HAPPY
just makes me so happy to be alive, cuz that was far
and away the happiest night of my life. and that was
without like any friends or people i knew with me, so
it couldve gotten better (tho i did meet some WPKN
pals after tha show!)

also, HAS ANYBODY HERE EVER READ "BILLY BUDD" by
HERMAN MELVILLE?!!!!?!? I read it yestrday (its due
tomorrow) and i dont have a fucking clue what's goin
on. little help?

right, hope u liked thanksgivin or whatever. i got a
damn report to do and welllll........ so i gotta go.

bye!

=====
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SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
[e-mail]
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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) lookin at cdnow....
Date: 28 Nov 1999 07:12:06 -0800 (PST)

hey folks, at cdnow the "Drop A Beat" and "Next is the
e" singles are available arent these like ultrarare or
sumthin so get em if u want to

also, it had the lopez singles "emptiness" and "why
cant it stop" and it said WCIS was limited edition?
any1 know why? and it misspelled it as "why cant i
stop"

also  it listed under compilations that moby appeared
on the Cool World Score as well as the sdtk, but i
looked and it didnt mention him. anybody know??


alright i gotta go. that durn Bob Marley remix is damn
stuck in my head..... I NEED A COY OF THIS!!!! it's
been released on cd in the US right?

to the rescue, here i am, want you to know y'all, can
u understand?????????????????????,
PHIZZZZZZZo

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) sessions at west 54th
Date: 28 Nov 1999 12:32:48 EST

does anyone know when moby will appear on sessions?  i thought it was
supoosed to be in december, but the website doesn't indicate as such.


robyn



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) sessions at west 54th
Date: 28 Nov 1999 13:13:42 EST

i really have no idea about sessions. sorry! good luck



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From: Jane Browning <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new person
Date: 29 Nov 1999 09:10:59 +1000


Hello!


Name - Jane
Age - 25

Have - PLAY - have to resist strong urge of buying all my friends a copy
for their birthdays!
Other music I like - haven't quite thrown off my teenage Cure days, Nick
Cave and the Bad Seeds, and against all odds, have acquired a strange taste
for Dean Martin (as my sister dances around to it most evenings).  "Cha cha
cha d'amour" is not the sort of song to be caught singing at the photocopier.

Went to see Moby when he came to Brisbane, Australia, last week.  Had a
fantastically amazing time.  He is so entertaining and energetic. (But you
already know that!) I didn't mind losing twice my body weight in sweat or
smelling like a gigantic cigarette breath.  Have been playing the CD
incessantly since then.

Jane

Jane Browning
Administration Officer
Admissions Office Kelvin Grove
Phone: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
Fax: [phone]



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby on mtv
Date: 28 Nov 1999 19:37:36 EST

i just saw moby on mtv's house of style special where they show him posing
for calvin klein's ads.  dios mio!  he looked so beautiful.  his response to
the question of how it felt to be asked to be a ck "model" was that it was
very odd being that he is 5"8 and has a receding hairline.  he can be very
self deprecating.  they played bodyrock, porcelain, run on in the background
and showed a tiny clip of him performing at the nyc virgin megastore.  he's
also his funny little self and pretends to make glamorous poses.
~animal lib, veganism



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From: morag doodikins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) engage in dc - broadcast
Date: 28 Nov 1999 16:39:20 -0800 (PST)

hmmmm.. i was wondering who all thoses people with
cameras were. at one point they sat right in front of
moby for about five minutes while he was spinning..
they also got some lovely footage of all of us
sweating away at the front of the crowd.. anyway, i
thought his set kicked ass. i read this article in a
d.c. newspaper where he said he didn't think he was
much of a d.j. , oh well... i'm sad i didn't meet up
with any of you...
*freyja*

--- Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]> wrote:
> For those of us who can't make it to DC to catch
> Moby, digital noise is
> going to be doing a live broadcast of the party all
> day tomorrow.
>
> Check out the info below.  Damn, wish i could be
> there - that jungle
> lineup is drool worthy!  :P~
>
> sarah
> "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
>
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
>                .. digitalnoise ..
>                   .. update ..
>
> >1> SATURDAY NOV 27 - live from ENGAGE (drum'n'bass,
> techno, house)
>
> The digi.crew has arrived safely in Washington :) We
> apologize for not
> pulling off the remote broadcast of Feelgood on
> Friday night at Soup. Our
> marvelous technology didn't quite work the way it
> was supposed to.
>
> No worries though, we've got more music in store for
> you today than is
> even imagineable. We're broadcasting live from the
> ENGAGE event down here
> in Washington, DC. Put together by Ultraworld, 2Tuff
> and Sonic Soul, this
> is possibly one of the best DJ lineups to ever hit
> the states. We'll be
> broadcasting from two rooms, simultaneously with
> video courtesy of  the
> Steetsound/pseudo.com crew.
>
> DJs for the main room include Scott Henry, Moby,
> Donald Glaude, Derrick
> May, and Dave Ralph. The drum'n'bass room features
> the likes of
> Grooverider, Fabio, Ed Rush, Andy C, Bryan Gee,
> Storm and Bailey. For the
> set times, check our site.
>
> The broadcast will start approximately 12 noon EST
> and will go to 12
> midnight EST. That 9am - 9pm PST and 5pm to 5am GMT.
> To tune in, point
> your browser towards http://www.digitalnoise.com
> during the broadcast
> hours. Make sure you stop by the chat to let us know
> how it sounds.
>
>            *>>    E N G A G E     <<*
>
>      saturday november 27 - washington d.c.
>             >    live  webcast     <
>            12 noon to 12 midnight EST
>
>     check digitalnoise.com for complete info
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on mtv
Date: 28 Nov 1999 23:55:56 EST

I saw it too and he looks fabulous as always!


In a message dated 11/28/99 7:38:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i just saw moby on mtv's house of style special where they show him posing
 for calvin klein's ads.  dios mio!  he looked so beautiful.  his response to
 the question of how it felt to be asked to be a ck "model" was that it was
 very odd being that he is 5"8 and has a receding hairline.  he can be very
 self deprecating.  they played bodyrock, porcelain, run on in the background
 and showed a tiny clip of him performing at the nyc virgin megastore.  he's
 also his funny little self and pretends to make glamorous poses. >>



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From: Bjorkdoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) i still recall the taste of your tears
Date: 29 Nov 1999 11:40:09 -0800 (PST)

[ - - Engage - Washington DC - - ]

Um, wow.

(I wasn't there, but i caught most of the digitalnoise.com broadcast)

Watching/listening to that made me long to be on the dance floor amid the
throngs of sweaty arms and mad beats.  I haven't been to a party (err...a
"rave") in ages.  I didn't really feel like i was missing it until i
plugged the Engage broadcast into my real player.  I mainly listened to
the drum'n'bass room - at least until Moby's set - and i could just feel
the energy in that room.  I haven't been to a crazy jungle show where the
entire crowd is a jumping, pumping sea of energy...asking for rewind after
rewind in months.  I miss it.  Listening to Ed Rush brought back memories
of seeing him here in Seattle.  What a show!!  I left a wasted, drained,
tired mess!  I loved it!

And finally Moby.  He has such an amazing intense presence about him.  I
could see it even through the pixely view streaming into my computer.  He
never seemed to stop moving - he was constantly swaying to each track like
he had all this pent up energy wanting to explode. I could have easily
pictured him going off just as hard as any other partier there on the
dance floor.  I literally got tears in my eyes once or twice because i had
forgotten how much joy this type of music gives me - and with a big grin
on my face i could sense the moments when i would be jumping and cheering
for more (if i were there) and the moments when the build would give me
chills (if i were there) and when the break would cause me to go off like
mad (if i were there).

Even though i wasn't there i am glad they broadcast it.  It was nice to
get a glimpse into a party on the other side of the country.  I hope to
read some reviews from those of you who were *actually* there soon.

How much do you think Moby charges for a dj gig?  :)

dreamily, sarah
"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

.+'*'+.         .+'*'+.         .+'*'+.
        every nerve that hurts you heal
        '+.,.+'         '+.,.+'         '+.,.+'






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) i still recall the taste of your tears
Date: 29 Nov 1999 15:08:22 EST

i have been to a few moby shows recently, but i'd have to say that the most
exciting was engage.  you cant help but to move even when you are sitting
down. you're surrounded by great music and happy people. and seeing moby does
bring tears to your eyes. just the thought of that kind little man makes  you
feel so good about the life youre living. i cant wait to see him again! it
better be soon :P



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) i still recall the taste of your tears
Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:06:00 EST

yeah...it would have been great to see moby at Engage...i didn't go..what
does he play when he djs..never seen him at a party so i would not
know...well...hopefully everyone had fun stuffing their faces with turkey and
for those vegans, hope you enjoyed the veggie turkey...peace..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) i still recall the taste of your tears
Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:08:09 EST

i wish i had gotten to see the broadcast but i did not figure out how to get
it...oh well...peace...elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Info Bout' Me
Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:09:17 EST

Name - Gregory
Age - 15
Moby Collection - Albums - Moby, Early Underground, Ambient, Everything is
Wrong, Everything is Wrong Mixed and Remixed, I Like To Score, Animal Rights
(Double CD with Little Idiot), Play, Mixmag Vol. 2 with Moby, and many
singles.

I first heard moby from my brother who bought Everything is Wrong after
seeing Moby at Lollapalooza.  This was about 3 to 4 years ago.  I am a huge
Moby fan and i am on a vigilant quest to collect all of Moby's Songs.

Other Artists I liKe - Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Smashing Pumpkins, Ben
Folds Five, Bis, The Beatles, Burt Bacharach, and The Clash.

Other Info - I love to play the piano, and i also play the guitar and have a
synthesizer and i record and mix my own music with my computer.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Info Bout' Me
Date: 29 Nov 1999 17:38:20 EST

In a message dated 11/29/1999 2:10:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> i am on a vigilant quest to collect all of Moby's Songs.

good luck man...much much music to collect...check moby.org for a list!!



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From: Jenny Guy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Remove
Date: 29 Nov 1999 18:40:40 -0500


Love ya!
Jenny :)

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From: "Delta _9_" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Remove
Date: 29 Nov 1999 16:12:37 PST

Hello?  Um... I some how got a letter from you.  I love you too! :)  I hope
your a female b/c I'm going to feel stupid.  Well PEACE


Reply-To: [e-mail]


Love ya!
Jenny :)

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From: "Delta _9_" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Info Bout' Me
Date: 29 Nov 1999 16:18:14 PST

I some how got this letter from you?  I just sign on to the Mobility News
Letter and got an e-mail from you.  Well anyway, I'll go along

Name - Garrett
Age- 15
Moby Collection - NONE!  I only have ripped cd's converted into mp3s on my
computer. I have no cds of his at all.  :(


I first heard moby when I was rolling for my first time.  I stood up and the
music tickled my ear.  My heart beat with the bass and I took off from
there.  I can't even begin to tell you, I think I dance for about 3 hours
with all my friends.  It was great!

Other Artists I liKe - Rage Against the Machine, Diff tencho, hard rap is
good. Most Def and Mob Deep, Like DEAD and Doors, a wide selection...

Other Info - I live in North Carolina, I do drugs to much, not proud. And
thats about all.. PEACE



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Info Bout' Me
Date: 29 Nov 1999 20:08:50 EST


> I do drugs to much, not proud.

hey man...why don't you like, buy Moby cds and listen to them and get that
natural high that only Moby can give...it works man...rolling rolling
rolling....take care..love you too man!!



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From: Adam Covati <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 29 Nov 1999 20:17:21 -0500 (EST)

I went to the show , It was great, he did a great version of revolver
(long jam at the end), a great acoustic version of feeling so real
(followed by a slamming version), he layed on the front row while
introducing his band (I got to hold him up for the second time this
summer).  what else....hmmm...all together the best show I have been to.
Afterward I got to say hi to him and got a sig, and told him to come play
worcester (anyone out there from around there?), he said he would look
into it.  Lo-fi-allstars weren't too shabby either.

-covatz

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
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GTE CyberTrust
Direct Network Services
wpi.edu/~acovati





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 29 Nov 1999 20:20:01 EST

In a message dated 11/29/99 8:17:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> and told him to come play
>  worcester (anyone out there from around there?)

im from the manchester area(NH) but i practiclly go to all avoln, greatwoods,
orphium...and local clubs

-=*Jeff*=-



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) I Like to Score liner notes
Date: 29 Nov 1999 21:04:28 EST

i just got ILTS from eBay--sans liner notes.  Is there anything spectacular
in them, like essays or photos or anything that i should be sorry to be
missing?  at the very least, does it say which films the songs were featured
in?


robyn



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From: "Stacey MacGrath" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 29 Nov 1999 21:13:25 EST

Nashua, NH person here. How awesome would that be if he came? It'd be great
cuz the one in Boston the December is 21+ so I can't go. Another chance to
see him would make my day!


>From: [e-mail]
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:20:01 EST
>
>In a message dated 11/29/99 8:17:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>[e-mail]
>writes:
>
> > and told him to come play
> >  worcester (anyone out there from around there?)
>
>im from the manchester area(NH) but i practiclly go to all avoln,
>greatwoods,
>orphium...and local clubs
>
>-=*Jeff*=-
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 29 Nov 1999 21:19:35 EST

did you go see him when he played at the hatchshell in boston? but yAh, i'd
LOVE to see him play again. its so intense!!!



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 29 Nov 1999 22:54:22 -0500

Woah! Moby is playing in Boston? When? I just saw him at the Towson show
on Thanksgiving! First time for me, even thought it should have been
number 4! I thought it could never live up to everything I heard from
you guys, but it did and more! He is so awesome. Could have done without
the LOFI Allstars but it was nice to get warmed up by them. Never heard
them before. Finally, just as I approach 100 moby CDs, (anyone have more
than me?) if I hadn't of seen him before I broke 100 the plain I
wouldv'e been so pissed. Anwyay, Later.
AJ



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From: "Paul  Medeiros" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 29 Nov 1999 22:53:05 -0500

Hey I think I may have been standing right next to you.  Were you next to
this girl who kept on saying that moby was her sanctuary and kept on asking
ot play revolver.  It was a great show.  I guess during thousand the plaster
fell off from the ceiling.
-paul

>
>
> I went to the show , It was great, he did a great version of revolver
> (long jam at the end), a great acoustic version of feeling so real
> (followed by a slamming version), he layed on the front row while
> introducing his band (I got to hold him up for the second time this
> summer).  what else....hmmm...all together the best show I have been to.
> Afterward I got to say hi to him and got a sig, and told him to come play
> worcester (anyone out there from around there?), he said he would look
> into it.  Lo-fi-allstars weren't too shabby either.
>
> -covatz
>
> -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
> Adam Covati
> GTE CyberTrust
> Direct Network Services
> wpi.edu/~acovati
>
>
>




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From: Keith Clancy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) for sale Everything is Wrong/Underwater and Sdtrks?
Date: 30 Nov 1999 00:53:47 -0500

Just wanted to let everyone know that i have on auction at Ebay the UK
import pressing of Everything is Wrong/ witht the bonus cd of Underwater
which is a beautiful 43 minute long ambient piece.  This is really hard
to find at this point.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=208279942
  Also i do have a question (not just hawking cds on here) but is the
version of Honey that apperead on some movie sdtrk. is it different
because i know that the version of Porcelian was?  Someone help, thanks
Keith
Moby - Princess




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) for sale Everything is Wrong/Underwater and Sdtrks?
Date: 30 Nov 1999 08:55:19 EST

anyone live in amsterdam...this past august i was there and found a copy of
EIW/Underwater for sale..stupid me should have bought it and offered it to
all you guys here...e-mail me privately..perhaps it might still be
there...peace...elie



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From: Adam Covati <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 30 Nov 1999 11:25:23 -0500 (EST)

Ya, I saw him at the the hatchshel, but I missed the axis show before that
:(.  That was a great set (at the hatchshell), but I hate big shows, Ilike
being right next to him
Hey Paul, I don't think I was next to that girl, I was right at the stage
(my gf was actaully infront of me), and I was just a little to the left of
center.  When moby layed down on the crowd, his but was right over my head
:).  I think thousand was awesome. and I can't believe he played when it's
cold I'd like to die.  That was sweet.

later,
covatz

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> did you go see him when he played at the hatchshell in boston? but yAh, i'd
> LOVE to see him play again. its so intense!!!
>





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From: kimbalina <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)OT An Early X-Mas Present
Date: 30 Nov 1999 10:38:10 -0700

HI,

Rob's present to everyone was a mini vacation to some tropical place? Uh,
thanks but I had some recent bad experience with some company harassing me to
go on one of those.  I'm so mad about that still.

But thanks! :-)

--kimby

PS...I was out of town so I didn't get to wish you all a happy Thanks giving
but I hope you all had happy thanks givings! :-)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) KROQ XMAS CD
Date: 30 Nov 1999 11:42:42 -0800

A friend told me Moby is on the new KROQ
Kevin & Bean XMAS CD

It's a collaboration with someone


Deemo




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From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) herman melville/TRIBBLE/etc.
Date: 30 Nov 1999 11:56:34 -0800 (PST)


hey folks!!!!

thanks for all yr help with me and "Billy Budd". i got
cliff notes-type things from a site i found on a
Melville bulletin board and the site is at
www.pinkmonkey.com you can get all sorts of free cliff
notes and things there, its great. i understand the
book now.

anyway, i notice a few similiarities between Melville
and his great-nephew (or is it great-great-nephew?
doesnt matter, he's still great ;) Moby (who also has
the name "Melville" is his name)

it said in the cliffnotes (not really cliffnotes tho)
that Moby Dick was pure white, which symbolized evil,
or the complete lack of good. and of course in Billy
Budd there's Claggart who's also pure white, and pure
evil. and in the beginning, in chapter 1, it talks
about this African sailor, who is dark black, and it
says about he's the Handsome Sailor, and all these
other nice things about him. i thought that was
interesting, since moby seems to have a problem with
white muzik, as we all know, and how he seems to be a
bit immersed in black muzik, in some ways. know what i
mean?

also, go to www.melville.org and tell me that doesnt
look a bit similar to www.moby.org . coincidence? I
THINK NOT!!!! they even have their own list, Ishmail
(lol!) they have a cleverer name than we do ;)!

also......

WHAT DAY IS TODAY?
IT'S TRIBBLE'S BIRTHDAY!
WHAT A DAY FOR A BIRTHDAY!
LET'S ALL HAVE SOME CAKE!     (DJ cake that is ;)
AND YOU SMELL LIKE ONE TOO! HAH!

yes, Tribble the guinea pig is now 4our years old. Yr
the birthday, yr the birthday, yr the birthday boy or
girl! ;) he's the only guinea pig we have now tho :(

great!!!!!

oh yes, just want to remind y'all that the new SPIN
magazine should be out in a few days. here's hoping
PLAY is the number 1ne album of the year!!!!!!!

we're on cloud nine,
PHIZZO!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: Javiera P Gallardo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) lupos in RI
Date: 30 Nov 1999 17:28:32 -0500

Yeah the towson show on thanksgiving day was awesome, incase anybody went
and remembers, i was the girl who was holding up moby's microphone while
he signed my ticket stub on stage, but now i regret doing that because he
does way too much for his fans (he gave one of his only two shirts he
said he uses while on tour to a girl who was begging for it). i've been
to many other concerts, but this would have to be the best one, i even
met duard before the show. didn't know he was south african, we talked
about books and other random things- he's really nice as well. i hope
moby comes around again, and what was this engage show in d.c. i keep
hearing about?

by the way, the crowd wasn't a fraction as responsive to the low fidelity
allstars as they were to moby, they left on their tour bus right after
their set was over.

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 22:54:22 -0500 AJ Brustein <[e-mail]> writes:
> Woah! Moby is playing in Boston? When? I just saw him at the Towson
> show
> on Thanksgiving! First time for me, even thought it should have been
> number 4! I thought it could never live up to everything I heard
> from
> you guys, but it did and more! He is so awesome. Could have done
> without
> the LOFI Allstars but it was nice to get warmed up by them. Never
> heard
> them before. Finally, just as I approach 100 moby CDs, (anyone have
> more
> than me?) if I hadn't of seen him before I broke 100 the plain I
> wouldv'e been so pissed. Anwyay, Later.
> AJ
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Where can i find Live Sets?
Date: 30 Nov 1999 21:53:59 EST

I was wondering if anyone knew of any live sets that i could listen to
online.  Of course I joined this mailing list the 29th, just two days after
that big webcast Moby did, and i have never seen nor heard Moby live and i
have to know what its like, what songs he plays, if he plays them any
differnently then the album mixes and such and so forth,  well COo YO  Y
Later,  Peace Out Mo Bro...