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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) reviews (Souvenir & Beetlebum)
Date: 01 Apr 1999 20:09:57 +0200

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Hello everybody,
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This is the second part of the reviews of remixes that Moby did for =
other artists.
Moby did so many remixes for so many artists over the last couple of =
years, so I'm going to
review the ones that I have in my collection. I've bought them very =
recently. So the great thing is,=20
I think all of these remixes are still available, no obscure limited =
promo 12" remixes or stuff like=20
that. No, just (I think) not so widely known remixes that you can order =
at your favourite record=20
shop or on the internet.  =20
Oh, the _??_ indicates that I have no idea whether they're still =
available...(mostly the 12" versions)
=20
Here are some reviews of remixes Moby did for Blur (Beetlebum) and OMD =
(Souvenir):
=20
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BUSTIN' + DROWNIN' [Blur, 1998]  JP CD, Toshiba-EMI, TOCP-50444-5
=20
Bustin' + Drownin' is a whole album, but I bought it just because of the =
ONE Moby remix that is
on it: Track 4   Beetlebum [Moby's Mix  6:42]    I'm sorry, I can't =
compare this mix with the one on=20
the Beetlebum CD single (UK CD, Parlophone, 7243 8 84656 25) because the =
record company=20
marked it as deleted.... Does anybody know where (and if) I can order it =
on the internet? (www.ab-cd.com perhaps?)
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The song starts with a slow drum rhythm and a soft hi-hat. Then Damon =
Albarn (the singer) starts to
sing "nothing is wrong, she turns me on"  Then, very warm and moody =
synths slide in (if you have a
MIDI composing program and a decent sound card try to play some low =
chords with the instrument "warm pad" ---> That's the kind of synth moby =
uses...) Soon the layer of synths start to get thicker
and thicker, getting more harmonic. In the meanwhile a hip hop beat gets =
added to the drum rhythm
creating a beat like in Time's Up by The Brotherhood.  Then when all =
instruments come to a climax,
the song falls apart leaving only some deformed voices and after a few =
seconds the beat with a new
rap sample (a heavy voice saying: "wanna get into tha..") Then some =
techno synth is added giving
the song a comlpete different sound. Now we hear a sample of Damon =
Albarn singing "..make you come" and the tension is rising. Then the =
beat stops, the warm synths are back again and the song
procedes in full harmonic strenght for about one minute. At the end of =
the song everything stops=20
except Damon Albarn's sampled voice (nothing is wrong..etc.). It =
continues singing for about 40 seconds. It gives you the chance to get =
used to the fact that this wonderful Moby's mix of Beetle-
bum is really over...........
=20
WARNING: when listening [Moby's Mix] set your CD player on REPEAT 1!=20
Whatever you do, don't allow the CD player to go to track 5 after =
playing the Moby Mix! =20
Track 5 starts with the MOST HORRIBLE sounds that have ever been =
recorded!    =20
It would only spoil your great Moby experience of track 4...
=20
Sorry I got carried away like this, but the Moby's Mix of Beetlebum is =
together with Mary's Birthday=20
Mix on Brian Eno's Fractal Zoom my most favourite Moby remix he did for =
another artist.=20
=20

THE OMD REMIXES [Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, 1998] UK(?) CD, =
Virgin, VSCDT 1694
?? (there's probably also a 12" version of this single, I have no info =
about that...)=20

This CD has 3 tracks including one Moby remix on track 2.
Souvenir [Moby Remix  4:40] is the most recent Moby remix I have. It has =
the new Moby sound like=20
in Honey and Run On --> a nice hip hop beat and piano's. The piano in =
this mix is not the same as=20
in Honey though... It's a bright piano with a bit of echo in it, playing =
the melody and not the chords
like in Honey. The Moby mix also includes (I think) the full vocals from =
the original. My experience=20
with remixes by other artists is that if they decide to include the full =
vocals, it often sounds horrible,=20
but with this mix by Moby they fit right in... This mix is also a good =
example of what Moby once said about how he made Honey and Run On. He =
first sought some a cappella vocals and then built a song around them. I =
think he did the same with this mix. The Moby mix has a very melodic and =
a bit com-mercial mid-'80s sound (I cant help thinking about Depeche =
Mode when I hear it), but after 2:30 the
"End of Everything"-like synths come in and transform the song (apart =
from the beat) into a sort of classical soundtrack.
=20
Bart van Eijck
=20
Here's a nice quote (I don't know who wrote it though...)
I'm gonna live forever............or die trying.
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) letter from overzealous blur/john mcentire fan
Date: 01 Apr 1999 11:43:20 -0800 (PST)


>
> Yes, indeed the Moby remix of Beetlebum on Blur's
> album Bustin' + Drownin'
> is really really really great!! I have the album too.
> The 2nd cd is a live
> cd recorded at 'Peel Acres' (a club?) The other
> remixes stink except for the

OH SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!
The John McEntire remix fucking kicks ass. John McEntire is a
god!!!!!!!! i know it sounds absolutely nothing like the song its trying
to remix, but it is still fucking awesome,  and is one of my favorite
remixes ever.

john mcentire, of course, is a member of Tortoise, one of the greatest
bands ever, and he worked with Stereolab, on their latest album _Dots
And Loops_. if anyone disses anything that has to do with Stereolab, I
WILL KILL THEM! I have decided that Stereolab is the greeatest band on
the planet right now. I listen to them even more than Moby now, which is
a lot. Anyone who is not a Stereolab fan should go out and buy Mars
Audiac Quintet immediately, it is quickly becomig one of my favorite cds
of all time. Dots And Loops is also a fucking great album, everyone
needs a copy of it too.




sorry. none of that has anything to do with Moby. but i really love
those artists, and i hate to hear anyone say absolutely anything against
them. i'm desperately sorry, and i know nobody even mentioned Stereolab,
John McEntire, or Tortoise, and i really just exploded for next to no
reason. so sorry. but still, in my opinion, the John McEntire remix is
definitely the best thing on the cd, next to the live version of
"Popscene". i like it even better than the moby mix. and as for track 5,
the Thurston Moore mix of "Essex Dogs", that one is pretty fucking good
too, and its pretty funny that "it starts with the most horrible sound
on earth". get this: It's a guitar, OK?
its funny tho, nobody seems to like that song, "Essex Dogs". im sure
people over on the Sonic Youth lists probably hate it too. anyone here a
SY fan? they rock.

> My CD includes some nice Blur stickers. This CD was
> originally meant for the

okay, where the fuck did you get this? mine doesnt include
stickers!!!!!

oh yes, anyone who cant find it and wants to get it cheap, ask me. Music
Box has a whole clearance section of em for like 13 bucks. down from
like 22. cheep!





sorry i dont have a cool April Fools day thing to say. but definitely
look in the archives last year under April 1, what i did was hilarious,
right?

bye!!!!!!


dont take any  of my flamings personal toady? please? no wars, man,
peace in the eastern europe.
===
"Trying is the first step toward failure." Homer Simpson
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Got It!!!!
Date: 01 Apr 1999 12:29:45 PST

Dear Mobyites:

I am the proud owner as of today of Play!!!

I am reviewing the album for Request magazine. I have played it once. It
sounds OK--not great at all, though it may gain in stature the more I
play it.

First impressions: Mostly slow, if it were a new artist you'd probably
file it under trip-hop. To be honest it's kind of disappointing: not all
that memorable, nothing too exciting (downtempo can be just as exciting
as up, if done correctly). Some of the navel-gazing that trips up his
Mimi Goese collaborations IMHO; some fairly dumb lyrics. Not an
ambitious album; you get the feeling that with this one he was just
making music for its own sake, kind of as a hobby. Though it's probably
overstating it to say it's way too long at 18 songs, it feels that way
to these ears--it would probably be better cut down to 12 or 13. But
remember, this is a first impression and a first impression only.

BTW, in response to some of the recent discussion on this list, "Run On"
is fucking AMAZING. On the other hand, "Bodyrock," which sounds like the
most obvious hit single (it's very in the big-beat vein), is pretty
disappointing.

As I've said, though, I've only played it once. I will listen to it lots
more (of course!) and maybe it will sound better. But it sounds pretty
nice already--not among his best works, but a new side to an already
multifaceted talent.

I will get specific soon, with in-depth track descriptions. Till then,
take care.

Matos
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby @ transformation 2, Cleveland 4/17/99
Date: 01 Apr 1999 15:29:58 EST

I saw this email that had been forwarded and was from a nonsubscriber and
noticed that it has a performance in Cleveland, Oh by Moby.....I live in the
cleveland area...so first of all thank you very much for posting it......is
there a place where i can get more information about it? Thanks.
~Lauren


[e-mail] wrote:


"Transformation 2
Brought to you by:

     Badass Productions

Moved?: N
Cancelled?: N
Shutdown?: N
Venue Type: Non-Club
Price: $ (USD)
Venue:
Address:
City: Cleveland
State: Ohio
Country: United States
Estimated Attendance:
Notes:
Last Updated: 1999-03-18 19:33:01

Flyers:

With Performances by:

     7up
     AK 1200
     Bizz
     Dank
     Danny the Wildchild
     Dig Dug
     Doughboy
     Ground Zero
     Heretic
     Highlanders
     J. Smooth
     James Christian
     Matt B
     Moby
     Richard "humpty" Vision
     Rob Riddem
     Run DMC"



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From: mark reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) blur/john mcentire fan
Date: 31 Mar 1999 09:04:52 +0100

>k except for the
>
>OH SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!
manners please boys...
>its funny tho, nobody seems to like that song, "Essex Dogs". im sure
oh but I do.. shame their new LP seems a bit derivative though

--
mark reed



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From:    "Jared M. Willig" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Got It!!!!
Date: 01 Apr 1999 16:37:19 -0500 (EST)

Wait a minute... whats the date again?

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Michael Matos wrote:

> Dear Mobyites:
>
> I am the proud owner as of today of Play!!!
>
> I am reviewing the album for Request magazine. I have played it once. It
> sounds OK--not great at all, though it may gain in stature the more I
> play it.
>
> First impressions: Mostly slow, if it were a new artist you'd probably
> file it under trip-hop. To be honest it's kind of disappointing: not all
> that memorable, nothing too exciting (downtempo can be just as exciting
> as up, if done correctly). Some of the navel-gazing that trips up his
> Mimi Goese collaborations IMHO; some fairly dumb lyrics. Not an
> ambitious album; you get the feeling that with this one he was just
> making music for its own sake, kind of as a hobby. Though it's probably
> overstating it to say it's way too long at 18 songs, it feels that way
> to these ears--it would probably be better cut down to 12 or 13. But
> remember, this is a first impression and a first impression only.
>
> BTW, in response to some of the recent discussion on this list, "Run On"
> is fucking AMAZING. On the other hand, "Bodyrock," which sounds like the
> most obvious hit single (it's very in the big-beat vein), is pretty
> disappointing.
>
> As I've said, though, I've only played it once. I will listen to it lots
> more (of course!) and maybe it will sound better. But it sounds pretty
> nice already--not among his best works, but a new side to an already
> multifaceted talent.
>
> I will get specific soon, with in-depth track descriptions. Till then,
> take care.
>
> Matos
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play, Run On, Acapella Fractal (was Got It!!!)
Date: 01 Apr 1999 13:45:30 PST


>Some of the navel-gazing that trips up his
>Mimi Goese collaborations IMHO; some fairly dumb lyrics. Not an
>ambitious album; you get the feeling that with this one he was just
>making music for its own sake, kind of as a hobby.

Navel-gazing is a phrase I'm unfamiliar with. I can't derive it's
meaning from thinking of it literally, what do you mean? Do you like the
lyrics to Run On, or the sound of them?

Are you comparing to his EIW Mimi collaborations, or are there new songs
with her singing?

Any liner notes w/ the promo? Cover image? Essays?

>BTW, in response to some of the recent discussion on this list, "Run
On"
>is fucking AMAZING.

Bluntly but accurately put. I wholeheartedly agree!

>On the other hand, "Bodyrock," which sounds like the
>most obvious hit single (it's very in the big-beat vein), is pretty
>disappointing.

I look forward to your detailed review/criticism, Matos. You said he's
approaching music like a hobbyist. Just making fun music for fun
purposes, without redefining the meaning of the universe. Good. I liked
The End Of Everything, which was extremely plain and simple. If Play is
simple Moby tunes, I'll enjoy it. I certainly enjoy the feet to the
floor feeling of Honey and the involutary mental groove of Run On.

I'll review the Run On 12" with the remixes early next week! :) I'm told
that the Dave Clarke remix is surprisingly the slowest on the 12", which
means slower than Run On. Hmm. I'm also told that it's an excellent
piece of wax all-around. I beleive it.

I noticed that the Play page on moby.org doesn't list Tom & Rob's mixing
credit for Run On. Is that a single mix I have on CDMute221? Is it
different than the Play version, Dan or Damian?

To follow up Bart's Fractal Zoom review from yesterday, the Acapella mix
on the US 12" is a spooky little thing, 2:11 in length. It's build atop
a menacing sound that defies description. The vocals, which are spoken,
(by Brian Eno I assume) are given a sharp edge and pre & post echoes. It
makes each phrase hit your ears like a tripping locomotive. There's no
beat, really, but there are some evenly spaced tones that repeat in the
far background. Sorry for the lack of clarity, this 'mix' is difficult
to describe.

-S
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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play
Date: 01 Apr 1999 14:57:41 -0700

[was Re: (mobility) Got It!!!!]

Michael Matos wrote:
> I am the proud owner as of today of Play!!!

Cool!  That makes two of us now.  Is your copy from the US or the UK?
Does it have any cover art or liner notes?  If it's from the US, what
is its catalog number?

> I am reviewing the album for Request magazine. I have played it once. It
> sounds OK--not great at all, though it may gain in stature the more I
> play it.

What?!  Well, we're all entitled to our own opinions.  I think it's
great.  I was planning on posting my review of _Play_ and "Run On" in
the next week or two, but maybe I'll do it sooner.

_Play_ was certainly not what I expected, but I love it.  If I could
go through those 200+ songs Moby wrote for this album, I probably
would have created a completely different album, with more uptempo
songs.  But I respect what Moby is doing here, and think that he did
a great job with this collection of downtempo songs.

I consider _Play_ my favorite Moby album from the Mute era, to say
the least.  Yes, that's right.  I like it better than EIW, AR, and
ILTS.  And those albums were pretty good.  But none is as easy and
fun to listen to as _Play_.

> Though it's probably
> overstating it to say it's way too long at 18 songs, it feels that way
> to these ears--it would probably be better cut down to 12 or 13. But
> remember, this is a first impression and a first impression only.

Actually, to my ears, these 18 songs feel more like 12 songs.  And
since the album is 63 minutes long, I would gladly add three more,
and/or extend the songs that are already on the album.  In particular,
I would *love* "The Sky Is Broken" to be twice as long.

As for the "fairly dumb lyrics", I would say that they are no worse
than most lyrics out there.  A little obscure at times, but mostly
dealing with a theme of cold and darkness, which fits this downtempo,
bluesy album well.

> BTW, in response to some of the recent discussion on this list, "Run On"
> is fucking AMAZING. On the other hand, "Bodyrock," which sounds like the
> most obvious hit single (it's very in the big-beat vein), is pretty
> disappointing.

That's odd.  Our reactions are reversed, it seems.  When I first
heard "Run On", I was pretty disappointed.  But as it happens, I've
listened to it dozens of times since then, and it really grew on me
after a few listens.  And its B-sides are first-rate.  "Sunday" has
easily earned its place as one of my all-time favorite Moby tracks.

But back to _Play_...  On 17 May (1 June for Americans), you will
all find out for yourselves what kind of album _Play_ is.  And I
think that most of you will be pleased.  This album has the added
bonus of being, IMHO, the poppiest album Moby has ever made.  In
other words, I wouldn't be surprised if singles like "Bodyrock"
help propel it into mainstream recognition and appreciation.

This is neat.  I can see that there's going to be a lot of
interesting discussion on this list in the near future regarding
_Play_ and "Run On", now that some of us have it.  And so far the
reviews of other Moby releases for Steve's contest have been very
interesting.  Please keep them coming, folks!

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play, Run On, Acapella Fractal
Date: 01 Apr 1999 15:18:45 -0700

Steve Giles wrote:
> Navel-gazing is a phrase I'm unfamiliar with. I can't derive it's
> meaning from thinking of it literally, what do you mean?

I think Matos means introspection, with a negative connotation.

> I'll review the Run On 12" with the remixes early next week! :) I'm told
> that the Dave Clarke remix is surprisingly the slowest on the 12", which
> means slower than Run On. Hmm. I'm also told that it's an excellent
> piece of wax all-around. I beleive it.

The Dave Clarke Remix is slow and good.  It doesn't do anything amazing
to the song, but rather restates it in perhaps a more club/mix-friendly
format.  It leans more toward bluesy hip-hop minimalism.  The lyrics
are sometimes easier to pick out in this remix because at times they
play with very little musical accompaniment.

> I noticed that the Play page on moby.org doesn't list Tom & Rob's mixing
> credit for Run On. Is that a single mix I have on CDMute221? Is it
> different than the Play version, Dan or Damian?

Moby.org's _Play_ page does not list credits yet (other than those I
read elsewhere) because the copy of _Play_ that I have is so early
(and cool!) that it doesn't have that information.  This will soon be
remedied.

There are *five* different edits of "Run On", not counting the remixes.
Yes, that's right!

  radio edit, on RCDMute221 (UK radio promo)
  single version, on CDMute221
  album version, on CDStumm172 (Play)
  extended, on 12Mute221 (12" vinyl)
  extended, on LCDMute221

A little snafu caused two different extended versions to be released,
but I don't mind! :)  See http://www.moby.org/reviews/runon.html and
http://www.moby.org/reviews/play.html for approximate track times.

> To follow up Bart's Fractal Zoom review from yesterday, the Acapella mix
> on the US 12" is a spooky little thing, 2:11 in length. It's build atop
> a menacing sound that defies description. The vocals, which are spoken,
> (by Brian Eno I assume) are given a sharp edge and pre & post echoes. It
> makes each phrase hit your ears like a tripping locomotive. There's no
> beat, really, but there are some evenly spaced tones that repeat in the
> far background. Sorry for the lack of clarity, this 'mix' is difficult
> to describe.

That sounds awesome.  Now I really want that 12".  Moby's "Fractal
Zoom" remixes are among the finest he's done, and this sounds really
tasty. :)

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Moby, "Inside"



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play 2
Date: 01 Apr 1999 22:35:06 PST

Here's a response to the responses I received:

Dan is right about what I mean by navel-gazing.

No Mimi on this one, just a few tracks where Moby does a similar moody,
inward-looking lyric thing.

The promo I (and I'll assume Dan) received was a plain jewel case with a
sticker with a tracklist on it and the CD. And a hype sheet from the
publicist so that sucker critics like me can rewrite them and act like
we came up with it ourselves. (This is the reason most record reviews
read alike: most critics are lazy and just rewrite press releases. But
another time.)

I like it when he's just relaxing, too, although I found The End of
Everything rather bland. This one (on a 2nd listen) seems to have
similar pitfalls, though they're certainly not fatal.

Dan, my copy is from the US. His promo people (Formula) sent me a copy.
I actually got it on Wednesday but didn't get my mail until Thursday
morning. The catalogue no. is: V2ADV-27049-2. (I assume the regular
release will lose the ADV part, but who knows.)

Regarding the album: having played it again, I have some clearer ideas
about it. I agree that I would probably have constructed something
different had I been given access to the tapes and allowed to choose my
own album. Certainly what Moby is doing here is creating a smart
home-listening album, one I suspect is attuned to his mood either now or
when he put it together. About a quarter of the songs have the
old-blues-sample-plus-contemporary-production feel of "Honey" and "Run
On," and I think it's a smart, fresh direction. After all, he's done it
before ("Yeah", on Moby, I think that's the one), and it's pretty
ingenious. Of course, now that "Praise You" is all over the radio some
ignorant folks will probably just think he's ripping off Fatboy Slim,
but that's the price you pay. Anyhow, I like the tracks with this effect
a lot.

Your favorite?! Really?! Only after one day?! I'd really have to take
that with a grain of salt, Dan--not because I don't believe you love it,
but because NO record can really earn that position until it's been
given some time. It took a half-dozen listens for EIW to sink in, and I
went around saying it was my favorite record of all time for awhile.
It's not--I hardly play it anymore, partly because I OD'ed on the thing
(my own fault) and partly because its flaws became more and more
apparent to me as time went on. I think something similar might happen
to you with Play. I don't mean you're wrong or stupid for saying
that--quite the opposite, I'm really happy you like it as much as you
do. But it might be to your advantage to wait awhile before you make
pronouncements like that.

I definitely see your point about the 18 songs feeling like 12--partly
that's because several tracks serve the "Let's Go Free" function and are
bridges between things (and are really short). But the thing about them
is that, for me, some of them seem like throwaways, or just negligible.
There's a lot of slow, langorous soundtrack music featuring plangent
guitars and soft strings, and while Moby can certainly make stunning
music in this vein ("Alone" is one of my favorite Moby trax ever), too
much of it sounds boring to me. A second listen to the album widened the
disparity between the cuts I did and the cuts I didn't like: I love a
lot of the vocal stuff (even the Moby-sung "Porcelain," which I didn't
care for at first), and the
picking-the-acoustic-while-sitting-in-the-wheatfields stuff seemed less
interesting than the first time, when I didn't think it was interesting
either.

You're certainly right about the lyrics not being any worse than most of
what's popular (or not). But I don't think they're obscure at all--if
anything, they're too obvious. That's the thing about Moby's lyrics (and
indeed everything he does musically and otherwise): they're right on the
surface. I don't mean he should start babbling nonsense that makes you
think he's "really deep" (like Underworld), but he's not the most subtle
of writers, and while I love him for that when it works when it doesn't
it can be faintly embarrassing. I don't like the lyrics of most pop
music that much to begin with: when lyrics I don't like are highlighted
over and above the rest of the music, they're forced to live or die on
their merits. This is a general gripe, not just specific to Play. The
lyrics on AR, for instance, are almost comically broad, but in that
context--aggression, plus a lot of them were distorted--it worked. I
don't think it works as well here. Not everywhere, but on some tracks I
don't care much for the words, and the words are plainly what he wants
us to get into.

Don't have the "Run On" single (yet). Don't know when those promos are
available--Dan, can you email me privately with some contact info?
Thanks.

By the way, I'm very happy that I'm on this list, especially now that
this discussion is underway. Writing about music is fun and very
interesting, but being part of a community of FANS for whom this
particular artist is not just good or a good story but an integral part
of their lives is really refreshing. Glad you all are out there--even if
you do like Underworld ;-).

Matos
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby @ cleveland 4-17-99 information
Date: 02 Apr 1999 05:45:03 EST

  thanx again for the putting the show post up.I haven't found a venue name
yet, but have managed to get some a number to call.And that number is (330)
849-0413.
Tickets are being sold through area record shops for $30($35 at the door)It
is also a two day festival and from what i know RUN DMC and Moby will be on
the same night(don't quote me on that though)
                                                        hope to see everyone
at the show
                                                                     PB
PS call the number for the list of ticket distributers
PPS can someone post the venue name if they find out




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play 2
Date: 02 Apr 1999 06:55:11 PST

M. Matos wrote:

>I like it when he's just relaxing, too, although I found The End of
>Everything rather bland. This one (on a 2nd listen) seems to have
>similar pitfalls, though they're certainly not fatal.

If those are pitfalls, I'm glad Play has them.

>Your favorite?! Really?! Only after one day?! I'd really have to take
>that with a grain of salt, Dan--not because I don't believe you love
it,
>but because NO record can really earn that position until it's been
>given some time.

I think I can see where you and Dan differ, Matos. (you sign Matos, do
you prefer to be addressed as that or Micheal or Michealangelo?) I can
formulate an opinion on an album after hearing it 2 or 3 times, simply
by examing how the album makes me feel, my reactions to it. (though if I
was Dan I'd have heard it 15 times by now) I listen to the emotional
resonance of an album primarily, whereas you _seem_ to value
intellectual interplay more. You sound very analytical of music, and
being that you're a rock critic, that makes sense. That would also
prelude slower, more careful conclusions about the piece of music in
question. With Moby's music, I've learned to feel it before I ponder it.
Sometimes I just feel like I'm soaring above the clouds, or floating
lazily in a pool, or I feel nothing or annoyance if I dislike a
particular song. That's why I usually ignore the radio, because it makes
me feel bored and dissatisfied. I love the End Of Everything, btw.
Anyways, what I'm saying is that Dan may use a simalar approach that
would justify such a "favorite" statement.

>That's the thing about Moby's lyrics (and
>indeed everything he does musically and otherwise): they're right on
the
>surface. I don't mean he should start babbling nonsense that makes you
>think he's "really deep" (like Underworld), but he's not the most
subtle
>of writers, and while I love him for that when it works when it doesn't
>it can be faintly embarrassing.

I never thought Underworld tried to be deep. To me the words were
instruments, sounds, part of the aural collage. Not poetry that hinted
at actual meaning. In fact, Karl has said that he rides the subway and
pieces interesting bits of conversation together. As for Moby, I'll have
to wait for Play to see how well everything stands together.

>By the way, I'm very happy that I'm on this list, especially now that
>this discussion is underway. Writing about music is fun and very
>interesting, but being part of a community of FANS for whom this
>particular artist is not just good or a good story but an integral part
>of their lives is really refreshing. Glad you all are out there--even
if
>you do like Underworld ;-).

Yes, Moby is important to me. I'm glad another talky person is around. I
hope more of 'us' start talking. I look forward to further discussion,
even if it does lead to introspection. :)

-Steve

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when no one purchased any
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up the price. I have decided to see how many Americans we can get to NOT
BUY ANY GASOLINE on
 one particular day!

 Let's have a GAS OUT!  Do not buy any gasoline on APRIL 30, 1999!!!!!

 Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after.  Do not buy any gasoline on
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Send this message to everyone you know.  Ask them to do the same.  All
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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Hard at Play
Date: 02 Apr 1999 09:23:26 -0700

[was Re: (mobility) Play 2]

Michael Matos wrote:
> Dan, my copy is from the US. His promo people (Formula) sent me a copy.

Cool.  I never even heard of Formula.  :/

> I actually got it on Wednesday but didn't get my mail until Thursday
> morning. The catalogue no. is: V2ADV-27049-2. (I assume the regular
> release will lose the ADV part, but who knows.)

It may even lose the V2 part.

> Your favorite?! Really?! Only after one day?! I'd really have to take
> that with a grain of salt, Dan--not because I don't believe you love it,
> but because NO record can really earn that position until it's been
> given some time. It took a half-dozen listens for EIW to sink in, and I
> went around saying it was my favorite record of all time for awhile.
> It's not--I hardly play it anymore, partly because I OD'ed on the thing
> (my own fault) and partly because its flaws became more and more
> apparent to me as time went on. I think something similar might happen
> to you with Play. I don't mean you're wrong or stupid for saying
> that--quite the opposite, I'm really happy you like it as much as you
> do. But it might be to your advantage to wait awhile before you make
> pronouncements like that.

I wholeheartedly agree with your reasoning.  Whenever I get new Moby
stuff, I get excited.  During the novelty phase I am prone to praise
the new release more than it perhaps deserves.  But I've had _Play_
for ten days now, and have listened to some of its songs around four
dozen times.  At the risk of ODing, I'm really breaking it in, and
wearing off the initial overexcitement so I can write more objectively
about it.  That's half of the reason I didn't post to Mobility the
minute I got it.  I wanted to allow time for my thoughts to solidify.

Now it is entirely possible that as time progresses my opinion will
change.  But I am fairly certain that _Play_ is now my favorite Moby
album from the Mute era.  I haven't really tried to compare it with
the old Instinct albums yet, so I am not saying that it is my all-time
favorite Moby album.  Other Mute albums have songs and/or singles that
are IMHO superior to any songs or singles from _Play_, but taken as a
whole, I enjoy listening to _Play_ more than those albums.

> I definitely see your point about the 18 songs feeling like 12--partly
> that's because several tracks serve the "Let's Go Free" function and are
> bridges between things (and are really short). But the thing about them
> is that, for me, some of them seem like throwaways, or just negligible.

Yes, some of them are.

> There's a lot of slow, langorous soundtrack music featuring plangent
> guitars and soft strings, and while Moby can certainly make stunning
> music in this vein ("Alone" is one of my favorite Moby trax ever), too
> much of it sounds boring to me. A second listen to the album widened the
> disparity between the cuts I did and the cuts I didn't like: I love a
> lot of the vocal stuff (even the Moby-sung "Porcelain," which I didn't
> care for at first), and the
> picking-the-acoustic-while-sitting-in-the-wheatfields stuff seemed less
> interesting than the first time, when I didn't think it was interesting
> either.

As I said, I probably would have created an entirely different album
if I could have selected the songs myself.  But _Play_ fits a different,
more downtrodden, funky, bluesy mood, and IMHO does it very well.  Even
the songs that don't thrill me make for good listening.  There's nothing
that I really dislike on this album.  Oddly, the songs that probably have
the most US pop music breakthrough potential ("Bodyrock", "South Side")
do little for me as a longtime Moby fan.

I like Moby's vocal tracks a lot too.  "Porcelain" is wonderful, and
I can't help but like the "If Things Were Perfect" / "The Sky Is Broken"
duo.  "Machete" stands out as the only fast track track on _Play_, with
singing that seems to me reminiscent of _Animal Rights_.

As for "picking-the-acoustic-while-sitting-in-the-wheatfields stuff",
what do you think of "Everloving"?  I find it to be beautiful and full
of emotion, and I love it.

BTW, I think the most fun song on the album is "Find My Baby".  Pure
funky fun that makes a great followup to "Honey".

> You're certainly right about the lyrics not being any worse than most of
> what's popular (or not). But I don't think they're obscure at all--if
> anything, they're too obvious. That's the thing about Moby's lyrics (and
> indeed everything he does musically and otherwise): they're right on the
> surface. I don't mean he should start babbling nonsense that makes you
> think he's "really deep" (like Underworld), but he's not the most subtle
> of writers, and while I love him for that when it works when it doesn't
> it can be faintly embarrassing.  ...

Granted.  But at least Moby sounds good while reading/singing/shouting
the lyrics.  And you're right -- "obscure" was a poor choice of words,
and was not what I meant.

> Glad you all are out there--even if you do like Underworld ;-).

Heheh.  I enjoy Underworld's music quite a bit.  They're sort of the
antithesis of Moby, with unfathomable messages, lyrics, and emotions,
but I like their sound.

Matos, I think most or all of your points are valid, and make for an
engaging discussion/debate, even though we reach differing conclusions.
Keep it up! :)

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Moby, "Find My Baby"




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) random reviewing
Date: 02 Apr 1999 08:40:12 PST


I haven't have time to write down thoughts for the reviews I promised
two days ago, so I'm just going to review a remix here and there without
actually covering the whole batch. For instance, I'll tell you about the
Moby mix of "I Talk To The Wind" by Opus II but not the Head mix. I
don't want to write about anything I can't bring to mind without fairly
high clarity.

Opus III - "I Talk To The Wind" (Moby Mix) (10:02)

(regarding this voice, if you have Orbital's album w/ Halycon, or one of
the Hackers soundtracks w/ that Orbital song, this is the same voice.
Orbital sampled a different song from the album that Moby remixed "I
Talk To The Wind" for.)

This mix is an ambient journey. The beatless sounscape is composed of
the singer's high, clear voice. Moby layers the vocal, making it a
steady ocean breeze gently relaxing you. His production gives her voice
a moderate synth/string feeling, akin to the "warm strings" that Bart
mentioned in the Fractal Zoom review. This mix only changes minutely,
subtle variations in the texture of the steadily repeating vocal breeze.
Like the Landed Mix of Fractal Zoom, the changes in sound seem to bubble
up slowly and recede almost unnoticeably. Unlike the Landed Mix, you
would notice these sounds when you walked in a room, but you would soon
adjust to them as part of your environment, and then you would only
notice them if they were turned off. Unless, of course, you were
deliberatley paying attention like I was. Very nice, if you like this
type of thing.

Pet Shop Boys - "Miserablism" (Electro Mix) (5:35)

This mix is divine. If you've heard Moby's remixes for Jam & Spoon, you
may already have an idea of what this sounds like. It's very light and
bright and airy. This mix feels like the sun is smiling at me. It is
happy and innocent, and definately among my top 5 Moby songs, remixes,
anything. I can't really describe the sound through specifics, only
metaphors. Candy. Just go get it. It's on certain "Was It Worth It"
singles.

Aerosmith - "Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees)" (Moby Fucked Mix)
(5:56)

Maybe it's just my taste, but this mix is annoying. Part of the problem
is the source material. This mix is made with a distorted guitar sample
that sounds grindy & dirty, which becomes tiresome alongside the vocal
sampling present. The beat sounds big-beat with the guitar overlay,  but
my memory is a little foggy on the rhythym part, mainly because the
vocals violently captured my attention. It's a sample that loops
throught the whole song, nonstop, barring a short bassy breakdown. Moby
treated Steven Tyler's throaty scream to give it an tablesaw piercing
screech effect. It repeats through the whole song "Aing-o, no what I
want" I listened to this once myself and I play it for Aerosmith fans
who visit, and they don't like it much either. This mix is an aural
representation of a migraine headache.

Review requests?

-Steve
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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) reviews (Stella & Everybody In The Place)
Date: 02 Apr 1999 19:41:48 +0200

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=20
This is the last one in the series of reviews of Moby remixes for other =
artists.
Oh, _??_ still indicates that I have no idea whether they're still =
available..(mostly the 12" versions)
=20
Here are some reviews of Moby's remixes for Jam & Spoon (Stella) and the =
Prodigy (Charly/Everybody in the place):
=20
(THE COMPLETE) STELLA  [Jam & Spoon, 1992]  BE CD,  R&S,  RS 9203 CD
?? (THE COMPLETE) STELLA  [Jam & Spoon, 1992]  UK 12",  R&S/Other =
Rhythm,  RSUK 14X
=20
This 3 track CD has 2 moby mixes on track 2 and 3.=20
First about track 1 the [Original Mix 6:21], it's not a moby remix but =
what struck me after hearing it
the first time was that it was completely different from the version of =
Stella I knew... It includes vocal
samples of a womans sexy voice saying "hold me, love me", and it's more =
of a dance record than the
Stella I knew... But enough about that. The thing that struck me most =
about the [Original Mix] was
that it starts off with exactly the same beat as Moby's GO!!!  Very soon =
other percussion is added
and you can't hear it's the beat from Go any more. Later in the song you =
hear a piece of the beat from
Go again.
=20
Track 2: [Barracuda Mix  6:37] Starts almost the same as the original =
but with a different beat. Like in Fractal Zoom Moby uses little bongo =
drum samples to give the track a bit of swing. The vocal samples that =
are used are the "hold me, love me", a  strange (Indian like?) voice =
going "whohooohohahowheo" and a high pitched rap sample going "break =
down, break break down". And yes, right after that there's the =
breakdown, very short though, because the song almost immediately =
continues like it souded before. Through the whole mix Moby plays around =
with samples and improvises on his key-board on the 2 main chords of the =
song Stella.  The mix is not really dancable, it's more a kind of "lay =
back and listen techno" Great music for a sunny spring day like today. =
(It's great weather for the time of year in Holland!)=20
=20
Track 3: [Electro Mix  5:41] Starts the same as the original, but soon =
the "whowohohaho" begins.
In the beginning of the mix there's no real beat, only drum roll after =
drum roll and an occasional hi-hat and cymbal. After 2 minutes of just =
melody and drum rolls the drum rolls stop and the beat starts.=20
After a few measures the drum rolls are mixed in, and at about  3:20 a =
hand clap is added building=20
a rhythmic and melodic tune. The end of the mix I love the most, the =
beat and other percussion fall
away together with the voice samples, leaving only an early '90's bleep =
sound with synth chords.
I wonder why it's called [Electro Mix].... It certainly has an =
electronic sound, but it's no electro...
=20
All in all, I think Moby did a great job remixing Stella!=20
=20
=20
CHARLY/EVERYBODY IN THE PLACE  [The Prodigy, 1992] US CD, Elektra, =
66411-2
?? CHARLY/EVERYBODY IN THE PLACE  [The Prodigy, 1992] US 12", Elektra, =
66411-0
=20
Only one Moby mix on this EP, but the single is a must for early 90's =
techno/house collectors
like myself.     Here's a tracklisting:
=20
1 - Charly (Beltram Says Mix) 5:27             [ Great mix! One of Joey =
Beltrams better remixes ]
2 - Charly (Alley Cat Mix) 5:27
3 - Everybody In The Place (Dance Hall Version) 5:33                     =
               [ Moby's remix ]
4 - Everybody In The Place (Fairground Mix) 5:08
5 - Your Love (The Original Excursion) 6:00                     [ Wow! =
breakbeats and bright piano! ]
6 - G-Force (Part 1)                                                   [ =
No further introduction needed I think ]
=20
Track 3: [Dance Hall Version  5:33] Credits: additional production & =
remix by Moby for MCT"
I don't know Moby did this on purpose but "dance HALL" <--> Richard M. =
HALL?    funny....
Well, now for the mix itself... If you heard it, you wouldn't recognise =
it as a Moby remix. It's got
all the original Prodigy sounds in it and even a pounding breakbeat =
(combined with a normal beat)
No little bongo drums or sweet melodies this time, only hardcore synths =
and strong pounding beats.
In my opinion not one of his best remixes, but still a good hardcore =
techno breakbeat party track.
=20
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"dance=20
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funny....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No little bongo drums or sweet melodies this time, =
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a good=20
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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #359
Date: 02 Apr 1999 09:57:44 PST

>a lot. Anyone who is not a Stereolab fan should go out and buy Mars
>Audiac Quintet immediately, it is quickly becomig one of my favorite
cds

I agree.  MAQ is a great one... but I haven't heard Dots & Loops.

anyone here a
>SY fan? they rock.
>

YES!  they're fucking great.  My favorite is they're self-titled,
blue-cover, debut album (SST records).  'Evol' & 'Sister' are like
classics to me.

A few of you are fortunate enough to receive advanced copies of 'Play'.
I think traffic will increase here when it becomes available
commercially (someone said June 1?)

--andrew

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From: Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Yahoo's Moby Club
Date: 02 Apr 1999 19:32:30 +0100

no more moby mail please



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From: "Cpt. Koons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:Moby@ Transformation 2 in Cleveland
Date: 02 Apr 1999 13:44:20 -0500


Yes Moby will be playing Cleveland on 4-17-99 as part of the
Transformation 2 show.  Tickets are $30 adv $35 dos.  This show is
being put on by Bad Ass Productions and the number is 330-849-
0413.  It tells you who is playing and where to get tickets.  In
Cleveland tickets are available at Grand Poobas Records located at
11823 Detroit in Lakewood 216-521-9177.  If you want to know
more info you can call Nick at 330-677-1694.  And as with all Rave
parties the venue won't be announced until the day of the show.
You have to call the info line to find out where it is at.  The only info
available right now is that the venue has room for 8000 people.
And Moby and Run DMC are playing Saturday night for sure.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE MOBY!!!!!!!!!

Kevin---Feeling so real..
  We were in that Hanoi pit of hell over 5 years--Cpt. Koons
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From: "Spart" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) GAS OUT!! GAS OUT!! GAS OUT!!
Date: 02 Apr 1999 13:48:12 -0500

gas prices are lower than theyve been in years.
why mess with a good thing?

-spart
http://www.kamalot.com/spart



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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: RE: (mobility) GAS OUT!! GAS OUT!! GAS OUT!!
Date: 02 Apr 1999 12:36:10 -0500

Obviously, you live on the east coast...west of the Mississippi, we
regularly pay upwards of 1.40 for gas, and that's the cheap, 7-11
gas...Chevron, shell, and Sinclair charge more....

Take the gas-out one step further....don't buy anything at a gas
station/convenience store...no soda, no candy, no gas, no nothing!

daniel

>gas prices are lower than theyve been in years.
>why mess with a good thing?
>
>-spart
>http://www.kamalot.com/spart
>
>
>




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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #359
Date: 02 Apr 1999 12:36:05 -0500

>A few of you are fortunate enough to receive advanced copies of 'Play'.
>I think traffic will increase here when it becomes available
>commercially (someone said June 1?)

True, traffic will most likely increase around June 1, but I predict that
around the "rest of the world" release date (mid-May) traffic will peak...I
know I plan to either direct-order from mutebank or see if one of the
independant CD stores here managed to get a copy...

Hell, it worked for my Honey singles...

daniel
"returning to semi-lurk mode, cap'n!"

btw - Play comes out mid-May (probably the 18th? or am i mistaken again...)
and Episode One comes out on May 19.  Interesting, no?  I'll most likely be
in heaven those two days...




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Czech Run On review, CONTEST
Date: 02 Apr 1999 12:50:27 PST


So far there are only _2_ participants entered in the review contest.
Those flame wars must've really trimmed our membership, or else you're
all asleep. You get a chance to win a free Moby record (UHF) in exchange
for sharing your thoughts on Moby's music, the very reason you came here
in the first place! Come on! You've got all weekend yet, so let's hear
from YOU.
=)

Does anybody speak & write Czechoslovakian on this list? All the
translation engines I could find for Czech to English were defunct, and
I'm not about to do it manually.

Czech Run On RCD review
http://www.infima.cz/pareniste/vrunon.htm

Czech Singles Reviews (2x Honey, JBT, Run On)
http://www.infima.cz/pareniste/vinyls.htm

Main page, reviews Beaucoup Fish & Resident Evil 2.
http://www.infima.cz/pareniste/uvod.htm

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From: "Ruben A. Blanco" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RUN ON, and PLAY
Date: 02 Apr 1999 22:41:50 -0600

Hello all,

Does anybody have any suggestions on how an ordinary person can pick up
Moby's new releases: Run On (singles and remixes) and the Play releases
from the USA?

I have written to Mutebank and it's hard to get a response. CDNow and other
Internet Music stores I don't have any experience with ordering from them.
I ordered the TWIRFMR Disk1 from CDNow and I have been waiting over a month
to get it now (backorders).

I only have Blockbuster Music, Best Buy, Camelot, record stores where I
live. (Pretty pathetic, I know).

Release date for the USA is around June 1st   (?)   , I don't think I can
wait that long.
Keep the reviews coming about the new Moby releases.

Ruben





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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rur playlist (non moby)
Date: 03 Apr 1999 13:59:29 -0800

R U Receiving? was on much music last night. it was actually a pretty good
show.  looks like they're starting to listen to my demands for more richie
hawtin... hehehehehe  no moby tho :(  but at least they played honey last
time.  anyway, this is the playlist, for all those people who forgot about
its new timeslot.

push upstairs-underworld
(underworld tour dates)
richie hawtin interview
converge- plastikman
midnight in a perfect world- dj shadow
money greedy-tricky
broken homes- tricky
L.B.P.- frontside
temper temper- goldie
lady shave- gus gus
(gus gus tour dates)
teardrop- massive attack
my kingdom- future sound of london
atom bomb- fluke (cut)




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) xero products for sale (it will make you feel good)
Date: 03 Apr 1999 16:40:49 -0600 (CST)


hellow fellow moby freaks!

as you may or may not know, i produce my own music. you may have heard my
strange remix of "hymn" on the "thanks" cd. well, most of my music is
nothing like that. i do more BT and paul van dyk like progressive house. i
like to think that all of my songs tell a story while making your bootie
move, or at least you toes tap. i don't claim to be as amazing as BT or
moby, but i think you get the idea of what the music sounds like.
i've sent some cds of to record label land and gotten a great responce,
but no deals...although one small label said they'd like to do something,
but were out of money for the year.
so! what the deal is is this. you can get one of my self made cds (i have
2) for only $7, which includes shipping. the only reason i'm charging
anything is because i want to get a 12" pressed, and the only way i'm
gonna get one is by doing it myself. both cds are over 70 minutes and are
8 songs each. "sweets" is xmcd001 and "no sound in space" is xmcd002. i
think both of those titles says a lot about the music on the cd.
this is music mostly for the mind and less for the dance floor, but it's
not endlessly repetitive bleeps and blops, but very deeply layered
strings and warm fuzzy sounds over a driving (most songs are around 140
bpm, not blistering i know, but not slugish either) beat. the drums are
usualy pretty minimal, with a few exceptions. think BT meets "the end of
everything" with more guts.
so, if this long ego trip hasn't convinced you to buy one or both of my
cds, please feel free to write to me for more details. if you DO want to
get something (did i mention free stickers?) you can write back to me
privatly or just send a check to:

Zac Bentz
P.O.Box 1112
Proctor, MN 55810.

i think there may be a few people on this list who have heard my music in
the past. this new stuff is better, and on cd, so of better quality too!

so, enough from me.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
            but i really enjoy thinking."
              Masafumi Sanai-photographer





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From: David J Bass <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hmm
Date: 03 Apr 1999 18:30:58 EST

Sorry for taking you time.  I'm a new Moby fan and I really like his
stuff that has alot of fast melody, like on the Feeling so real remixes.
Anyway I was wondering if anybody could recommend anything else like
that.

Thanx,
[e-mail]

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RUN ON, and PLAY
Date: 03 Apr 1999 17:03:07 PST


>Does anybody have any suggestions on how an ordinary person can pick up
>Moby's new releases: Run On (singles and remixes) and the Play releases
>from the USA?

As an ordinary person, (non-music industry is what you mean, right?)I've
befriended some people in New York and various places in Great Britain
that will pick up CDs I request for me. In bigger cities, you have lots
of music journalists, which means promos. Many are sold to used stores,
and that's how I have the 1st Run On CD. (from England, a Mute single in
this case) For things I can't find on promo, I buy them after the
official release. CDnow has Honey, and so do all the other large
retailers I'm sure. Local stores vary, for instance, Tower in
Bloomingdale, IL, has 6 or 7 copies of Honey #1 for $5 each, while the
one in Schaumburg never orders anything vaguely electronic except for
Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, and all of Luke Vibert's pseudonyms.
(too much Wagon Christ & Plug) Very strange. If you want to buy them
physically, from the store, you'll have to wait for the Honey/Run On
single from V2 unless you know a store that will import Moby. I
recommend getting it online.

>I have written to Mutebank and it's hard to get a response.

They promote and release well for Moby, and their German site, once it's
completed, will be very attractive, but the English one is shamefully
ugly and out of date. Also, it took mutebank about a month and a half to
respond to a request of mine. I've never tried the phone order system,
but don't bother with ordering via email, unless you have lots of
patience.

>CDNow and other
>Internet Music stores I don't have any experience with ordering from
them.
>I ordered the TWIRFMR Disk1 from CDNow and I have been waiting over a
month
>to get it now (backorders).

Try smaller, independent stores with REAL PEOPLE you can write/talk to
and confirm that the item you want is in stock. Search on yahoo for
'techno music store', and try different combos with 'house', 'vinyl',
and 'jungle' in there and you'll have ample stores to browse.

These two stores are friendly, and I've had great transactions with them
in the past and have been very pleased. They have lots of Moby, too. :)

http://www.alternativemusic.com
http://www.vvinyl.com

>Keep the reviews coming about the new Moby releases.

I'll review the Run On 12" next week, and others have promised Play
reviews. I'm looking forward to them, too! Speaking of reviews, enter
the contest, people!

-S

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From: "Daniel Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On = April 13th?
Date: 03 Apr 1999 19:02:30 PST

I went out to buy a copy of Run On today, and the people at the CD store
told me that the release date had been pushed back to April 13th.

What's the deal, yo? I thought it was supposed to have come out on March
29.

Oh, and Kristy, what's the scoop on those ILTS posters? You wanted me to
remind you, so I am. Cool.

Dan

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hmm
Date: 04 Apr 1999 18:39:33 +0200

>Sorry for taking your time.

Hey, that's what the list is for!
Feel free to ask anything you want to know about Moby!

> I'm a new Moby fan and I really like his
>stuff that has alot of fast melody, like on the Feeling so real remixes.
>Anyway I was wondering if anybody could recommend anything else like
>that.
>
>Thanx,

Well, I think you already know some of them, but the only ones I can think
of
right now are:

- Bring Back My Happiness (Extended Mix)
- Everytime You Touch Me (especially the Pure Joy Mix!)
- Next Is The E (I Feel It)
- Into The Blue Remixes ( the Simple Mix and the Spiritual mix)
- Move (Original and the Disco Threat Mix)
- Hymn (This Is My Dream and the European Mix)
- All the tracks Moby made under the name Barracuda have nice melodies.
  (they are on the albums Early Underground and Rare (the collected B-sides)

I hope I've helped you out a bit...

Bart van Eijck




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From: David J Bass <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hmm
Date: 04 Apr 1999 14:33:19 EDT

Thanks for the suggestions Bart.  I will look into them.

Dave Bass

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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play: the script
Date: 05 Apr 1999 10:04:25 PDT

Get it? Little pun there, kids. Yeah, I know it sucked. Anyway... :-)

Track by track descirption of Play:

1. HONEY You know it, you love it.

2. FIND MY BABY Same idea as "Honey," with old blues-guy sample saying
"I'm gonna find my baby, WHOO! before that sun goes down." There's a
slight pause between "That" and "Sun" which adds an off-kilter rhythmic
feel. Shuffling breakbeat and acoustic guitars: think early Madchester
(e.g. Stone Roses, Primal Scream, Happy Mondays) as a root source. THere
is also an electric slide guitar about halfway in, and one of those
ubiquitous four-chord string arrangements just to let everyone know it's
Moby. More electronic effects are added as the song goes on; in short, a
nice thumbnail folk-to-techno aural history lesson. I don't much care
for the song's beginning, and I end up really really liking it by the
time it's finished.

3. PORCELAIN Opening with a four-chord backward-string motif, and
quickly a breakbeat and then a bassline under it, this is a piano-based
ballad with vocals by The Man Himself. He whispers, barely there, and
though the lyrics are extremely simple ("I never meant to hurt you/I
never meant to lie/So this is goodbye") they're REALLY affecting,
methinks. (Took a couple listens to figure this out.) One of his most
beautiful offerings, the bridge is like watching the sunrise from a
different angle. Sublime stuff.

4. WHY DOES MY HEART FEEL SO BAD A piano figure opens, with a husky
gospel-sounding vocal (Teddy Pendergrass? that's who it reminds me of)
fading in and out: "Why does my heart feel so bad? Why does my soul feel
so sad?" Another shuffling break underpins this one; Strings and pianos
and wordless female vocals galore here. Kinda nice, but not amazing.

5. SOUTH SIDE I've got real problems with this one, Moby's attempt to
write a "rock anthem." It's a "song" song, with verses and choruses and
a bridge and everything, lyrics included. The melody is really pretty
nice, especially the chorus (well, that's really the only melody, the
verses are chanted/rapped/spoken/monotone). The problem is twofold:
First, I don't much care for the words. "Here we are now going to the
south side/I pick up my friends and we hope we won't die" is clumsily
put no matter how genuine the truths it's trying to get across are, and
most of the rest of them aren't much better. And second, I don't like
Moby's singing on this track. He's not a singer even at the best of
times, but he knows how to make his voice work for him: witness
"Revolver" and "Porcelain." Here he's just singing, and he sounds
constipated. I for one don't like it.

6. RUSHING Think "First Cool Hive." This type of cut has become a staple
for Moby, and he hasn't lost his touch, at least on this one. Piano like
"Hymn," female "hey yeah" like the sunrise awakening you, strings like
wispy clouds. Nice.

7. BODYROCK Another real problem for me. Compared to the Fatboy
Slim-style big beat Moby is obviously emulating with this cut, this
track (with live rhythm and wah-wah lead guitars riding chunky hip-hop
rhythms as some anonymous b-boy chants "Rock y'all, nonstop y'all, to
the beat y'all, bodyrock y'all") sounds anemic. It's almost
embarrassing, to be blunt about it. You can hear what he's trying to do,
you root for him to do it, and after 8 listens all I can say is that as
much as I wish it weren't so, he doesn't come close to doing it. A dud.

8. NATURAL BLUES More of that blues-over-breaks shit, but this time he's
got an androgynous voice singing "Ooh lord, my troubles so hard/Don't
nobody know 'bout my troubles with god." And it's WONDERFUL. Basically,
the songs in this vein are variations on the same basic theme, but it's
a damn good theme, and Moby milks it the way he milked distorto-guitar
aggression on AR and joyous-disco-house on the Instinct singles and
MOVE. This might be my favorite track of this kind on the album.

9. MACHETE Fast, acidy techno--finally! Very commercial sounding--think
Underworld, only lighter on its feet and less self-consciously arty.
Moby sings on this one, and very well; there's an emotional edge to his
voice that I really like. The lyrics are the usual "I'm feeling
alienated, somebody love me" stuff that we all know and love about the
man.

10. 7  A one-minute-two-second sketch; guitar playing occasional blues
fills over a drum machine that's been left inside an underground parking
tunnel. Filler, but effective filler.

11. RUN ON By this time you all might know this one, but if not, here
goes. It's a gospel song from the '30s or '40s, sampled nearly wholesale
and put atop a breakbeat and insistent piano pulse. The lyrics are about
how you should reap what you sow and if you screw your fellow man (or
her woman, in the more literal sense) the "Lord almighty's gonna cut you
down." I love it, a lot--it's as good as "Honey," if not better.

12. DOWN SLOW 1:35 trip-hop thing, and lemme tell ya, I wish it were
longer and explored some more terrain. I just got done reviewing a
couple of trip-hop compilations, and most of them have one or two good
tracks and a whole lotta filler. And the thing is, it all sounds so
similar that it's hard to tell the good from the ugly. This sounds like
it'd be a great example of the genre if it were given time to develop.
Maybe he'll remix it--or maybe one of you should...

13. IF THINGS WERE PERFECT A bass pulse opens it, with a slightly echoed
sample of someone singing "Give me summer..." thrown on top a couple
times. The beat comes in gradually, along with some scratching. Moby
then mutters some spoken-word. "Nothing here but the quiet on the
street/And now I open my eyes to this/Isolated when I work long, hard
hours." Sounds like he walked around NYC at about 4 AM and wrote down
what he saw, filtered of course through his poetic sensibility, and
recited it over a half-finished track. This is not a complaint; once you
get used to the words, you can throw 'em in the background and treat 'em
like texture. An OK track which a lot of you may love.

14. EVERLOVING Last week, when I got the album, I decribed there being
"too much picking-the-acoustic-guitar-sitting-in-the-wheatfields" stuff
on PLAY, and this is the song I was thinking of. I'm not a fan of
acoustic picking for its own sake generally: there should be a melody or
something interesting going on to hold my attention. I have
loved--LOVED--Moby's ambient stuff in the past, but this is just way too
goddamned New Age for me.

15. INSIDE A pulse with flickering glow-riffs on top of it; if you liked
the beatier moments of Ambient, you'll like this. I like the first half,
when intriguingly vague decaying wisp-strings form over the slow organ
pulse. But when the piano comes in and plays high single notes, again
it's all just a little too Muzak to suit me.

16. GUITAR, FLUTE & STRING More Muzak. Don't like. Moby's ambient stuff
has absolutely NO EDGE on this record--nothing to make you actually want
to pay attention to it, it's the kind of stuff that ambient detractors
laugh at. And they should! It's soft-edged and terribly uninteresting.
I'm talking even mushier than The End of Everything--there's little of
the plaintive, astringent feel that typifies the best of Moby's
softcore. I miss it--and I hope he gets it back.

17. THE SKY IS BROKEN Ecology seems to be the theme of this
spoken-word-over-ambient-hip-hop cut. It's pretty nice. But again, it's
not all that intriguing. I do enjoy it, though, more than I usually do
this kind of thing--even the piano plinks that are beginning to sound
like doodles instead of melodies work for me.

18. MY WEAKNESS Ghostly gospel/choral voices (reminiscent of the stuff
in the European Edit of "Hymn" and "Novio") set a languid rhythmic feel,
and there are no beats here. Reminiscent of "The Sky Falls and the Rain
Shudders," too. Keeps building with strings. I really really really like
this one.

Overall, Play sounds like Moby's making music for fun instead of because
he feels like he's got something to prove. And that's the problem with
it: there's no sense of danger, no edge, no sense of the intensity that
I and so many of you respond to. It's a lazy-sounding album, and though
a lot of it is enjoyable, it's got way too much filler on it. I hate to
say it, but after 10 listens, Play may be my least favorite Moby album
ever. I certainly hope it remains so.

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play: the script
Date: 05 Apr 1999 11:07:46 PDT

Thanks for the breakdown!

>12. DOWN SLOW 1:35 trip-hop thing, and lemme tell ya, I wish it were
>longer and explored some more terrain.

Good news:
There's a 5:56 full length version of Down Slow on the Run On LCD
single.

>13. IF THINGS WERE PERFECT A bass pulse opens it, with a slightly
echoed
>sample of someone singing "Give me summer..."

Give me summer or give me death! -descendant of Patrick Henry

There, my joke was much worse than yours. I hope there's more tracks in
the fast & dangerous arena on the singles! Thanks for the review, Matos!
It's appreciated. Since you happened to write that review during a
review contest, you're entered.

Quick reminder: Today is the last day of the contest. If 2 more of you
enter before tomorrow, I can declare a winner! (my rules stated a
minimum of 5 different entrants for the UHF 12" prize to be given)
Otherwise, the contest is cancelled. :( All you need to do is a write
review of a Moby CD or record and post it on mobility.

Matos, Bart & Robert, if it IS cancelled, your reviews will be
automatically entered in the potential NEXT contest. Thanks much for
writing.

I'll try to find a good CD prize instead of vinyl for the next contest
to get all of you slacker deadbeats writing. __SPEAK UP__ AND LET ME
KNOW IF THERE IS INTEREST FOR A CONTEST WITH A CD PRIZE. Sorry for
shouting, but attention seems short.

Thanks.

Steve


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From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play: the script
Date: 05 Apr 1999 17:00:50 -0500

>Quick reminder: Today is the last day of the contest. If 2 more of you
>enter before tomorrow, I can declare a winner!

What time zone are we thinking about when speaking about the deadline?  ;)

--Ade.



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From: David J Bass <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) here you go
Date: 05 Apr 1999 18:22:17 EDT

Hey I'll enter just so someone can win.  Here is a real simple review of
UHF3(original mix).

Starts out with an energetic feel. Then it progresses to a collaboration
of all sorts of neat noises. Then comes in the repeating piano melody.
Returns to energy for a while, then returns to piano, but this time it
has two overlapping piano melodies with a beat.  FIN.

Well I hope someone else writes in so one of you guys who actually has
tried to win gets rewarded for their labors.

Dave Bass

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From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) review (aka "here you go")
Date: 05 Apr 1999 18:46:44 -0600

that's a swell idea, i'll just write a short review too, because i hate to
see everybody go to all this effort for nothing.  here, in less than 100
words is my review of Voodoo Child's "The End of Everything"

This fairly minimal, very beautiful melodic electronic album created by
Moby's alter-ego is the first and one of the only albums that has nearly
brought me to tears due to its emotional impact and amazingly melancholy yet
simultaneously uplifting electronic arrangements.  the track titles alone
(dog heaven, patient love, great lake, gentle love, honest love, slow motion
suicide, and animal sight) are enough to allow one to visualize (perhaps a
better word is in order) how the music sounds.


now playing: Paul Oakenfold "Global Underground: New York"

>Hey I'll enter just so someone can win.  Here is a real simple review of
>UHF3(original mix).
>
>Starts out with an energetic feel. Then it progresses to a collaboration
>of all sorts of neat noises. Then comes in the repeating piano melody.
>Returns to energy for a while, then returns to piano, but this time it
>has two overlapping piano melodies with a beat.  FIN.
>
>Well I hope someone else writes in so one of you guys who actually has
>tried to win gets rewarded for their labors.
>
>


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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) contest  (was Play: the script)
Date: 05 Apr 1999 18:55:54 PDT

The time zone is when I wake up, get up, go to work & take a break in
the morning to read email. So you have until about 9am US central
standard time to send it off. :)

Play to win.

:)

>What time zone are we thinking about when speaking about the deadline?
;)
>
>--Ade.
>

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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) GAS OUT!! GAS OUT!! GAS OUT!!
Date: 06 Apr 1999 13:58:26 +0100 (British Summer Time)

If you people think prices are steep in the U.S. you should
check out the prices here in the U.K. The reason - the
government is trying to stop people using cars, clogging up
motorways and polluting the environment. However, public
transport has gone to the dogs and is even more expensive
to use than the car - so we lose all round.

Does anyone from the U.K. know where the Scala theatre
(London) is? I gather Moby's playing there soon.

Any info appreciated.

Cheers,

TMB

On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:48:12 -0500 Spart <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> gas prices are lower than theyve been in years.
> why mess with a good thing?
>
> -spart
> http://www.kamalot.com/spart
>

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ***end of review contest***
Date: 06 Apr 1999 08:55:10 PDT


>>Well I hope someone else writes in so one of you guys who actually has
>>tried to win gets rewarded for their labors.

I'd like to thank all of you who entered the review contest,
particularly those who did so wholeheartedly. I'll announce the winner
as soon as possible, definitely sometime before tomorrow night. Here are
the entries I've received & read:

1.) Robert Taylor - Instinct Dance

2.) Bart Van Eijck - Various Remixes
(Fractal Zoom, Souvenier, Beetlebum, Stella, Everybody is in the Place)

3.) Michaelangelo Matos - Play

4.) David J. Bass - UHF3

5.) Chris Perkins - voodoo Child - The End Of Everything

-S



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From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Old Concert Review
Date: 06 Apr 1999 11:30:56 -0500

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This is an old concert review I have from a Dallas newspaper dated =
January 25,1993.

Dallas - Out of all the cultral debris that was fluttering around =
Dallas' Bomb Factory until 4 a.m. yesterday morning, it took only one =
man to make sense of it all: Moby

A socially unacceptable New York DJ and producer, Richard Hall (Moby for =
short) made his name in dance music with the release of his year-old, =
self titled debut album, and a succession of club singles.

Wearing last night's jeans and tomarrow morning's sweater, Moby pounced =
on stage a little after 2 a.m., piquing his intricate machinery for a =
sweet, sound introduction.

But as a streak of red light flashed across his shapely face, a =
transfoemation began.

The opening sampled shouts of AH AH disfigured Moby's cute spirit and =
harmless body, remolding it into a chaotic, stage clogging generator. =
Lunging foward-eyes closed, fists flying- Moby threw himself into the =
audience, leaving his entourage of electronic digitizers and sequencers =
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debris that was=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>A socially unacceptable New York DJ =
and=20
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with the=20
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club=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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disfigured=20
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himself=20
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sequencers=20
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby Album moved forward!.
Date: 06 Apr 1999 10:38:09 EDT

Hi Everyone.

Received this information from 'Music Boulevard'.

Cheers.

Martin.


Moby's Play Pushed Up To June 1; DJ Dates Scheduled

Due to popular demand, Moby's new album, Play, has
been moved up from its original June 15 release to
June 1 on V2 Records.

While his tour plans are still being sorted out, two
DJ dates have been confirmed so far: April 16 at
Cro-Bar in Chicago and April 17 at the Rave
Transformation No. 2 at the Cleveland Sports Plex in
Cleveland.

His album release parties in 10 key cities will
likely happen between May 24 and June 5, while his
full-on tour will run from July 15 through August.

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On on April the 19th.???
Date: 06 Apr 1999 20:07:44 +0200

MOBY - RUN ON [release date 26 Apr 1999]
UK 12", Mute, 12Mute221


MOBY - RUN ON [26 Apr 1999]
UK CD, Mute, CDMute221

I went to my local record store and they said the 12"
would be released on April the 19th. instead of the 26th....
The CD singles would be released on April the 26th.

Does anyone know if this is true? (Daniel?)




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From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) run on
Date: 06 Apr 1999 19:44:20 +0100

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I have got a copy of run on from a friend who is a dj on the local radio
it is fantastic it is the 3 track CD promo with the mixes by dave clarke =
and moby

I cant watt for the album if this is anything to go by ;-)

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mixes by=20
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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Official News! Run On video!
Date: 06 Apr 1999 12:02:28 PDT

this from def's moby mailing service:

------------------
US & Canada: HONEY/RUN ON - May 4/11
The single will be commercially released on 12" on May 4 and on CD on
May 11. Tracklistings are:

12"
A1   HONEY - Album Mix
A2   HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
B1   RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
B2   RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix

CD Maxi
1    HONEY - Original Album Mix
2    HONEY - 118 Mix
3    HONEY - Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix
4    HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
5    RUN ON - Extended
6    RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
7    RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix
8    MEMORY GOSPEL

You can hear a 30-second clip of RUN ON at www.moby.org

The video for RUN ON was shot in Los Angeles in early March, and
directed by Mike Mills. (REM guy, in case you didn't know. -Steve) Moby
features as a harassed office worker who dies, ascends
to Heaven and becomes Employee Of The Month there.

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LIVE SHOWS
Moby will be playing the following live dates:

May 18        UK      "Secret" warmup show - Brighton Pressure Point
May 19 & 20   UK      The Scala, Kings Cross, London
July 10       France  Solidays festival, Paris

There may be a couple more European festival appearances - if so we will
update you later - and Moby will be doing a full European tour around
September/October. Dates to follow. For the latest European festival &
tour
news, check out www.fwwt.com

Moby will also be doing a month-long tour in the US and Canada from
mid-July. Dates to follow soon.

----------------------

DJ APPEARANCES
"Evil Ninja Moby" will be DJing on the following dates:

April 16   USA      Chicago, IL - Crobar
April 17   USA      Cleveland, OH - Cleveland Sportsplex Warrensville
(rave transformation party)
April 30   Germany  Dortmund, Mayday
May 28     USA      Denver, CO - Club Synergy
(hey DC! are you near Denver?)
May 29     USA      New Orleans - State Palace Theater

More DJ appearances to be confirmed soon.

__________
I edited out some release dates and info on the UK & German releases
that have already been announced here on mobility. Check out mob.org as
usual if you need to reference release dates for the UK & such.

-S
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From: "Ginger Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mike MIlls
Date: 06 Apr 1999 21:15:59 -0400

are you guys sure that the Mike Mills who did this video (Run-on) is really
Mike Mills of REM???




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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Honey/Run On US Single
Date: 06 Apr 1999 23:03:37 +0200

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I think many of you got an e-mail including this:

US & Canada: HONEY/RUN ON - May 4/11
The single will be commercially released on 12" on May 4=20
and on CD on May 11. Tracklistings are:

CD Maxi
1    HONEY - Original Album Mix
2    HONEY - 118 Mix
3    HONEY - Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix
4    HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
5    RUN ON - Extended
6    RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
7    RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix
8    MEMORY GOSPEL

This is a GREAT CD and I'm sertainly going to buy it because of some=20
mixes that only used to be (and are going to be) available on 12", but I =

have one complaint:
Why didn't they include MICRONESIA?!?!
Memory Gospel is a cool song, but if I had to choose between Memory=20
Gospel and Micronesia I'd certainly choose Micronesia.=20
IMO they could just as well release a 9-track single including both =
songs....

Well, for those of you in the US who are waiting for this single and =
haven't=20
got an European release I'd suggest to also get the European CD1 =
(CDMute218)=20
I haven't heard the B-sides of Run On yet (I am told they're REALLY =
good) but so=20
far, Micronesia is among my most loved non-album B-sides in my =
collection.

Heh, got that off my chest.....

Bart



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including=20
this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>US & Canada: HONEY/RUN ON - May 4/11<BR>The =
single will be=20
commercially released on 12" on May 4 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and on CD on May 11. Tracklistings are:<BR><BR>CD=20
Maxi<BR>1    HONEY - Original Album =
Mix<BR>2   =20
HONEY - 118 Mix<BR>3    HONEY - Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey=20
Mix<BR>4    HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn=20
Mix<BR>5    RUN ON - Extended<BR>6    RUN =
ON -=20
Moby's Young & Funky Mix<BR>7    RUN ON - Sharam =
Jey's Always=20
On The Run Remix<BR>8    MEMORY GOSPEL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>This is a =
GREAT CD and I'm=20
sertainly going to buy it because of some </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2>mixes=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>that only used to be (and are going to be) =
available on=20
12", </FONT><FONT size=3D2>but I </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>have one complaint:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why didn't they include MICRONESIA?!?!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Memory Gospel is a cool song, but if I had to choose =
between=20
Memory </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gospel and Micronesia I'd certainly choose=20
Micronesia.</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>IMO they could just </FONT><FONT size=3D2>as well =
release a=20
9-track single including both songs....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Well, for those of you in the US who are waiting for =
this=20
single and haven't </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>got an European release I'd suggest </FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>to=20
also get the European CD1 (CDMute218) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I haven't heard the B-sides of Run On yet (I am told =
they're=20
REALLY good) but </FONT><FONT size=3D2>so </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>far, </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Micronesia is among my =
most loved=20
non-album B-sides in my collection.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Heh, got that off my chest.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby in chicago
Date: 06 Apr 1999 22:06:29 -0500

Hi there folks

I'm really interested in seeing moby dj in chicago
however
i'm 21 and my friend who wants to go is 19
we're going to have to drive about 12 hours to get to chicago and he really
doesn't want to do that if he's going to end up waiting in the car

can anyone give me some info on the age requirements of this show?

thanks a lot

---rob




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From: Kyle L Yeates <[e-mail]>
Date: 06 Apr 1999 20:16:43 -0600

Dear Mobility Members,

    Hey there! I know all of you are probably going to delete this,
because I am just some stupid newbie kid, but I just subscribed and I am
just trying to get to know a couple of people out there. I can't believe
that i just heard about Mobility until recently. I will go ahead and be
un-original template that Mobility sent me for introducing myself.

Name: My name is Kyle Yeates
Age: I'm still in my teens
What is in my Moby collection: I own "Animal Rights", "I Like to Score",
"Moby", "Early Underground", "Rare: B-sides", "Move" single, "Everything
is Wrong", and the "The End of Everything" done under Voodoo Child. I
would buy more if I wasn't in such a tight economic situation.
Where I heard of Moby first, and how big of a fan I am: One of my
friends, and i actually had a silk screen made of the Moby logo on the cd
"Animal Rights".
Other stuff I like: Electronic is my favorite genre of music, I am really
into Moby more than any other artist in particular. my tastes vary quite
a bit. I really like Squarepusher. Aphex Twin from what little i have
heard of him. My other point of interest is in U.K. drum n' bass/jungle.
i.e. Krust, Roni Size, Dillinja, Photek, ect.
Interesting Info: well, I am a vegan, and have been for 4 years. um, I
live in Ft. Collins, Colorado. Nothing interesting, though.
    well, thanks a million if anyone out there actually read this
far. I would love it if any of you would e-mail me, just so i can know a
few people out there, hopefully with similar interests. And to everyone
else, sorry for the inconvenience.
take care,
    Kyle Yeates
    [e-mail]

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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby winamp skin?
Date: 06 Apr 1999 22:33:42 -0500

Could someone repost the URL for the Moby WinAMP skin please? I found a
WinAMP->MacAMP skin converter I'd like to try out.

Thanks.

--
    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby winamp skin?
Date: 06 Apr 1999 22:09:01 -0600

John Turpin wrote:
> Could someone repost the URL for the Moby WinAMP skin please? I found a
> WinAMP->MacAMP skin converter I'd like to try out.

There are 5 different Moby WinAMP skins out there that I know of, and
you can grab them all from http://www.moby.org/fans.html

BTW, sorry to everybody for being slow or unresponsive online lately.
I have a lot of homework and stuff gobbling up my time.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  RHCP, "Give It Away"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby in chicago
Date: 07 Apr 1999 01:46:05 -0500 (CDT)



On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Rob Skipworth wrote:

> I'm really interested in seeing moby dj in chicago
> however
> i'm 21 and my friend who wants to go is 19
> we're going to have to drive about 12 hours to get to chicago and he really
> doesn't want to do that if he's going to end up waiting in the car
>
> can anyone give me some info on the age requirements of this show?

Crobar is a 21+ dance club, and its not all that big.  While some people
will argue this, my experience has been that Crobar is a fairly
selective/strict club.  If your friend is female and has a fake, chances
are good she'll get in.  If it is a he and he has a fake, the chances are
decreased, and if its anyone that doesn't have a fake, IMHO, chances are
nill.

But that's me - some other have claimed to have gotten in w/o ID.  My
experience has been, however, that on crowded evenings Crobar can be QUITE
selective (even if you are legit/over 21)

-G




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From: mazbass <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) a few moby-related items up for sale
Date: 07 Apr 1999 02:03:20 -0700

hi,

i have a few moby related items for sale...

moby    everything is wrong UK cd with UNDERWATER UK 2 cds    25/offers    mint
moby    honey promo 12" remixes by Westbam and Moby    UK 12" promo    15    mint


i also have quite a few other dance/synth 12"s and cds for sale at the
address below. let me know if you're interested in anything--thanks!


------->OUT OF PRINT AND RARE RECORDS/CDs FOR TRADE/SALE<-------
http://icl-server.ucsd.edu/~mazbass/odysseymusic.html

PET SHOP BOYS, 808 STATE, UNDERWORLD, ORB, LEFTFIELD,
WILLIAM ORBIT, MADONNA, ERASURE, BT, DEPECHE MODE,
MASSIVE ATTACK, ORBITAL, BELOVED, etc. etc.

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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) run on
Date: 07 Apr 1999 12:36:01 +0100 (British Summer Time)

Not sure if I'm being a pleb here and forwarding this to
people who already got this, but I just received all this
info below from DEF, if anybody finds it useful?

Well at least I know The Scala is in King's Cross, but
where in King's Cross is the next question - it's quite a
big place!

TMB.


NEW ALBUM & SINGLES
Moby's new album, PLAY, will be released by Mute Records on May 17, except
in Japan, where it will be released on July 7, and in the US and Canada,
where it will be released by V2 Records on June 1 (Moby parted company with
Elektra Records last year).

PLAY will be preceded by the following single releases:

All countries except US & Canada: RUN ON - April 26
The single will be released on different formats in each country, and will
include four new songs - SPIRIT, RUNNING, SUNDAY and DOWN SLOW (FULL LENGTH
VERSION) - plus a Dave Clarke mix and Moby's own YOUNG & FUNKY MIX. Germany
will also release a 12" of remixes by Sharam Jey, Dani Koenig and Plastic
Angel.

US & Canada: HONEY/RUN ON - May 4/11
The single will be commercially released on12" on May 4 and on CD on May
11. Tracklistings are:

12"
A1   HONEY - Album Mix
A2   HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
B1   RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
B2   RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix

CD Maxi
1    HONEY - Original Album Mix
2    HONEY - 118 Mix
3    HONEY - Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix
4    HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
5    RUN ON - Extended
6    RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
7    RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix
8    MEMORY GOSPEL

You can hear a 30-second clip of RUN ON at www.moby.org

The video for RUN ON was shot in Los Angeles in early March, and directed
by Mike Mills. Moby features as a harassed office worker who dies, ascends
to Heaven and becomes Employee Of The Month there.

----------------------

LIVE SHOWS
Moby will be playing the following live dates:

May 18        UK      "Secret" warmup show - Brighton Pressure Point
May 19 & 20   UK      The Scala, Kings Cross, London
July 10       France  Solidays festival, Paris

There may be a couple more European festival appearances - if so we will
update you later - and Moby will be doing a full European tour around
September/October. Dates to follow. For the latest European festival & tour
news, check out www.fwwt.com

Moby will also be doing a month-long tour in the US and Canada from
mid-July. Dates to follow soon.

----------------------

DJ APPEARANCES
"Evil Ninja Moby" will be DJing on the following dates:

April 16   USA      Chicago, IL - Crobar
April 17   USA      Cleveland, OH - Cleveland Sportsplex Warrensville
April 30   Germany  Dortmund, Mayday
May 28     USA      Denver, CO - Club Synergy
May 29     USA      New Orleans - State Palace Theater

More DJ appearances to be confirmed soon.

----------------------

MERCHANDISE
We have lots of official Moby t-shirts etc. Please e-mail us if you would
like a list (e-mail) or catalogue (snail mail). However, bear in mind that
we're based in the UK and only accept payments in UK pounds - UK cheque or
postal order, Eurocheque, international money order or cash (by registered
post). No credit card orders - sorry.

If you live in the US you can write to MCT Productions Inc, 333 West 52nd
St, Suite 1003, New York NY 10012 for a catalogue of US merchandise.

BACKCATALOGUE & POSTERS
All of Moby's releases on Mute Records (and some posters) can be obtained
from MuteBank:
www.mutelibtech.com/mute/
E-mail [e-mail]
Mail: send SAE or IRC to Mute Bank Mail Order, 429 Harrow Road, London W10
4RE, UK
Tel: [phone]

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You can also join the Moby discussion list, Mobility: send an e-mail to
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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Official News! Run On video!
Date: 07 Apr 1999 12:37:25 +0100 (British Summer Time)

Shit, sorry! You got there before me Steve. Oh well take it
as just a reminder!

TMB

On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:02:28 PDT Steve Giles
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> this from def's moby mailing service:
>
> ------------------
> US & Canada: HONEY/RUN ON - May 4/11
> The single will be commercially released on 12" on May 4 and on CD on
> May 11. Tracklistings are:
>
> 12"
> A1   HONEY - Album Mix
> A2   HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
> B1   RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
> B2   RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix
>
> CD Maxi
> 1    HONEY - Original Album Mix
> 2    HONEY - 118 Mix
> 3    HONEY - Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix
> 4    HONEY - Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix
> 5    RUN ON - Extended
> 6    RUN ON - Moby's Young & Funky Mix
> 7    RUN ON - Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix
> 8    MEMORY GOSPEL
>
> You can hear a 30-second clip of RUN ON at www.moby.org
>
> The video for RUN ON was shot in Los Angeles in early March, and
> directed by Mike Mills. (REM guy, in case you didn't know. -Steve) Moby
> features as a harassed office worker who dies, ascends
> to Heaven and becomes Employee Of The Month there.
>
> ----------------------
>
> LIVE SHOWS
> Moby will be playing the following live dates:
>
> May 18        UK      "Secret" warmup show - Brighton Pressure Point
> May 19 & 20   UK      The Scala, Kings Cross, London
> July 10       France  Solidays festival, Paris
>
> There may be a couple more European festival appearances - if so we will
> update you later - and Moby will be doing a full European tour around
> September/October. Dates to follow. For the latest European festival &
> tour
> news, check out www.fwwt.com
>
> Moby will also be doing a month-long tour in the US and Canada from
> mid-July. Dates to follow soon.
>
> ----------------------
>
> DJ APPEARANCES
> "Evil Ninja Moby" will be DJing on the following dates:
>
> April 16   USA      Chicago, IL - Crobar
> April 17   USA      Cleveland, OH - Cleveland Sportsplex Warrensville
> (rave transformation party)
> April 30   Germany  Dortmund, Mayday
> May 28     USA      Denver, CO - Club Synergy
> (hey DC! are you near Denver?)
> May 29     USA      New Orleans - State Palace Theater
>
> More DJ appearances to be confirmed soon.
>
> __________
> I edited out some release dates and info on the UK & German releases
> that have already been announced here on mobility. Check out mob.org as
> usual if you need to reference release dates for the UK & such.
>
> -S
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>

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From: bill tatalovich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play!
Date: 07 Apr 1999 07:07:26 -0500 (CDT)

Hey everyone--

Well, I know that Michaelangelo (sp?) got himself a copy of the new album,
and I know that I for one was incredibly jealous.  But then yesterday I
ran into my friend, the music editor for an area paper.  And what should
he have with him but a copy of Play.  I've listened to it a couple of
times...some very different stuff on there.  I'll post more detail
sometime soon.

Also, my friend mentioned that I might be able to interview Moby if I'm
interested...which of course I am.  Again, I'll let y'all know if it
happens, so I can get some questions from you guys to ask him.

Folks, I'm sorry...it sounds like I'm gloating in this post.  I don't mean
to, honest...it's just that y'all are the only folks I know who would
appreciate news like this.  Ah well...take it easy, everyone.

Bill Tatalovich

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From: David J Bass <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Kyle
Date: 07 Apr 1999 12:34:02 EDT

Well, I'm into Moby of course.  I mostly like his stuff that has a lot of
melody.  For instance the "Feeling so Real Remixes" and the "Into the
Blue Remixes."  What I really like is good quality jungle.  Aphex Twin
has some awesome examples of what jungle should be like.  I also like
Digital Hardcore, like Atari Teenage Riot and Bomb 20.  I don't know if
you have heard of them.  My last suggestion is if you like really fast
techno, check into Alec Empire.  He has some of the fastest crap I have
ever heard, the thing is its mostly jungle though.

Dave Bass

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From: Michaela Gerstner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re:
Date: 07 Apr 1999 09:43:18 -0700

welcome kyle!!!  glad to see more moby fans joining this list!  and no,
we will not delete anything from newcomers, so don't fret.

if u have any questions about anything, feel free to post.  there are
tons of moby encyclopedias out there who seem to know everything, so
chances are your question will be answered.  luckily enough, u joined at
the moment when moby's new album will be released soon, so you'll be
getting tons of information on it!!  this list is a definite help with
finding albums and such.

anyways, welcome and i hope you enjoy the list!

Plovious

Kyle L Yeates wrote:
>
> Dear Mobility Members,
>
>         Hey there! I know all of you are probably going to delete this,
> because I am just some stupid newbie kid, but I just subscribed and I am
> just trying to get to know a couple of people out there. I can't believe
> that i just heard about Mobility until recently. I will go ahead and be
> un-original template that Mobility sent me for introducing myself.
>
> Name: My name is Kyle Yeates
> Age: I'm still in my teens
> What is in my Moby collection: I own "Animal Rights", "I Like to Score",
> "Moby", "Early Underground", "Rare: B-sides", "Move" single, "Everything
> is Wrong", and the "The End of Everything" done under Voodoo Child. I
> would buy more if I wasn't in such a tight economic situation.
> Where I heard of Moby first, and how big of a fan I am: One of my
> friends, and i actually had a silk screen made of the Moby logo on the cd
> "Animal Rights".
> Other stuff I like: Electronic is my favorite genre of music, I am really
> into Moby more than any other artist in particular. my tastes vary quite
> a bit. I really like Squarepusher. Aphex Twin from what little i have
> heard of him. My other point of interest is in U.K. drum n' bass/jungle.
> i.e. Krust, Roni Size, Dillinja, Photek, ect.
> Interesting Info: well, I am a vegan, and have been for 4 years. um, I
> live in Ft. Collins, Colorado. Nothing interesting, though.
>         well, thanks a million if anyone out there actually read this
> far. I would love it if any of you would e-mail me, just so i can know a
> few people out there, hopefully with similar interests. And to everyone
> else, sorry for the inconvenience.
> take care,
>         Kyle Yeates
>         [e-mail]
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Intro & Question
Date: 07 Apr 1999 10:40:40 -0700


     Hello,

     I was told to introduce myself and I have a question at the bottom.

     Name: Jayson Magnus

     Age: 27

     MOBY Collection: It's difficult to list them all. I have all his
     albums and almost all of his cd singles in the USA (about 20 CDs
     total?). The rare stuff I have would be the HYM CD Single, the 2CD
     Import of Animal Rights, and recently the Remix Honey Single and the
     Honey Single with 2 new songs (forgot the names but they're good).

     I first heard of MOBY at raves during college (89 - 93) and more
     specifically from the COOL WORLD soundtrack (great soundtrack, crappy
     movie) which came out in 91 or 92(?). I would say I am a great fan of
     MOBY, would see him anytime he came to town (Boston) and I appreciate
     his creativity.

     Other artists I enjoy: I recently bought a CD from VAST (Visual Audio
     Sensory Theatre) which I would HIGHLY recommend. This kid who writes
     and does most of the music is very ingenious. He samples gregorian
     chants and creates some really good music.


     MY BIG QUESTION:
        Has anyone heard of LOPEZ? It is Moby. I have bought two CD singles
     that I found from LOPEZ (aka MOBY) but always wondered why he did them
     under the name switch. Does anyone have any information on this?



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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question
Date: 07 Apr 1999 13:40:11 -0400

>
>     Hello,
>
>     I was told to introduce myself and I have a question at the bottom.
>
>     Name: Jayson Magnus

Welcome aboard our merry ship of mystery, or at least moby...

>
>     Age: 27
>
>     MOBY Collection: It's difficult to list them all. I have all his
>     albums and almost all of his cd singles in the USA (about 20 CDs
>     total?). The rare stuff I have would be the HYM CD Single, the 2CD
>     Import of Animal Rights, and recently the Remix Honey Single and the
>     Honey Single with 2 new songs (forgot the names but they're good).

Where did you find the Hymn single, and which version?  I've been looking
for damn near forever for it, and no luck...

>     I first heard of MOBY at raves during college (89 - 93) and more
>     specifically from the COOL WORLD soundtrack (great soundtrack, crappy
>     movie) which came out in 91 or 92(?). I would say I am a great fan of
>     MOBY, would see him anytime he came to town (Boston) and I appreciate
>     his creativity.
>
>     Other artists I enjoy: I recently bought a CD from VAST (Visual Audio
>     Sensory Theatre) which I would HIGHLY recommend. This kid who writes
>     and does most of the music is very ingenious. He samples gregorian
>     chants and creates some really good music.
>
>
>     MY BIG QUESTION:
>        Has anyone heard of LOPEZ? It is Moby. I have bought two CD singles
>     that I found from LOPEZ (aka MOBY) but always wondered why he did them
>     under the name switch. Does anyone have any information on this?

Lopez, like Voodoo Child, was a side project.  Moby occasionally does this
in order to explore other musical inclinations (Voodoo Child is a lot of
very ambient music in my opinion, while Lopez is harder techno)   Aside from
the two singles, I haven't been able to find anything else (amazing, no? I
can find the Lopez singles, which have been out of print for a while and
were sort-of obscure to begin with, yet can't find a copy of the Hymn single...)

just killing time before going to work (promotions to management are always
nice, huh?)

daniel
who gets to be in charge of an IMAX theater on 30 Apr.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby in chicago
Date: 07 Apr 1999 16:45:50 EDT

another way to do it is to go with a group of 21+ year old friends, and make
sure some are female and all have id's. when asked about yours, say you
didn't bring anything, and make sure you don't have a wallet or anything on
you.
andrew



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) go (get some) records
Date: 07 Apr 1999 14:19:28 PDT


First of all, welcome to the new members! Don't be shy.
-------

Here's some records for sale in the UK. I've done business with Marcus
before and I'm in the US. He's very friendly & helpful, and will check
to make sure eveything is in good shape before he sends it.

http://www.virtualvinyl.ndirect.co.uk/

Moby - Go (Rainforest, Video & Analog Mixes)
1991 Outer Rhythm ú10

Moby Go (Woodstock, Low Spirit & Voodoo Child Mixes)
1991 Outer Rhythm ú10

Moby I Feel It (3 Mixes), Thousand
1992 Instinct/Equator (Axis001) ú8

Moby Move - The Ep, Move (You Make Me Feel So Good),
Morning Dove, Unloved Symphony 1993 Mute ú7

Moby Move - The Mixes 1993 Mute ú7

-----
I haven't been able to confer with Dan & Damian regarding the UHF 12"
review contest, so please be patient. I'll let you know the results as
soon as I possibly can.

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility in chicago
Date: 07 Apr 1999 14:41:35 PDT


>another way to do it is to go with a group of 21+ year old friends,
and make
>sure some are female and all have id's. when asked about yours, say
you
>didn't bring anything, and make sure you don't have a wallet or
anything on
>you.

If you decide to take the long drive, and find that you or your friend
can't get in, you're welcome to come visit me and listen to some Moby
tunes, hang out, and play some James Bond on N64. I live about 30
minutes from downtown in light traffic, in the suburbs. Write me an
email and we'll talk. I've been talking to another list member in
Michigan who might come for the DJ set, too, so maybe we can have a
little mobility party. Who knows?

Hey delobbo, are you still lurking?

-Steve


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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question
Date: 07 Apr 1999 23:55:59 +0200

Wecome to the list Jayson!
You wrote:
>MY BIG QUESTION:
>Has anyone heard of LOPEZ? It is Moby. I have bought two CD singles
>that I found from LOPEZ (aka MOBY) but always wondered why he did them
>under the name switch. Does anyone have any information on this?


We had a Lopez discussion a while ago, and you're right, it is Moby.
I also have Emptiness/Fucked Up and Why Can't Is Stop.
He released Emptiness/Fucked Up in 1996, the same year he released
Animal Rights. In that year he released several records under other names:

EMPTINESS  (12:05)  [Lopez, 17 Jun 1996]
UK 12", Trophy, 12Trophy3
UK CD, Trophy, CDTrophy3

 1  5:49  Emptiness
 2  6:12  Fucked Up

SUGAR BABY  (20:21)  [DJ Cake, 24 Jun 1996]
UK 12", Trophy, 12Trophy4
UK CD, Trophy, CDTrophy4

 1 14:07  Sugar Baby
 2  6:11  I Found A Way

THE END OF EVERYTHING  (53:51)  [Voodoo Child, 15 Jul 1996]
UK CD, Trophy, CDIdiot1
GE CD, Trophy/Intercord Record Service, IRS 972.107

 1  6:09  Dog Heaven
 2  9:43  Patient Love
 3  8:58  Great Lake
 4  8:17  Gentle Love
 5  6:07  Honest Love
 6  7:08  Slow Motion Suicide
 7  7:18  Animal Sight

DOG HEAVEN  (33:01)  [Voodoo Child, 29 Jul 1996]
UK CD, Trophy, CDTrophy5
GE CD, Trophy/Intercord, INT 826.690

 1  6:21  Dog Heaven (Lopez Mix)
 2  6:53  Dog Heaven (Extended Mix)
 3 19:45  Dog Heaven (Long Mix)

YES, THAT'S RIGHT, DJ CAKE IS ALSO THE SAME PERSON AS MOBY
So, I think when *Moby* released a Rock Record (Animal Rights) It would be
kind of strange to also let *Moby* release some underground dance records.
(Although he did that before with What Love when he was releasing his Euro-
Dance like Everytime you touch me.....) So, he did them under another name
I suppose.........I can only guess.

Oh, this discography info comes from D. Cerman.
It can be viewed/downloaded from http://www.moby.org

Daniel Redmond Wrote:
>Voodoo Child is a lot of very ambient music in my opinion,
>while Lopez is harder techno

Daniel, have you ever heard Demons/Horses and Desperate/Higher
by Voodoo Child? They are both VERY hard techno...
The Hymn single is still available at Mute I think... I am not at home now,
otherwise I'd probably be able to tell you whether it's available on
http://www.ab-cd.com

Bye,

Bart van Eijck








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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) mp3,ra 4 U/skin/ re:lated items 4 sale
Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:40:11 EDT

hello all.
well?..um.
so i was searching around on the internet for some moby mp3's and such and i=20
found these:

http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei/moby/sounds/ra/higher.ram
does anybody know what song this is?
it's just a sample but i don't remember hearing it or sein' a song called=20
higher by moby anywhere that i recall.

http://io.pinknet.cz/ftp/music/mp3/gogy/moby.mp3
and this one is quite strange.  if yer feelin in the mood for hardcore muzic=
,=20
the directory 'gogy' has like four or five other mp3's all kill ya=20
muthafuckish (un pardon) gabber or whatever.  i ain't ever heard of dj gogy. =20
thumpthumpthump
m=F5by!!s.mp3
Dj GoGy
Kill ya muthafucka
98
Bring back my happiness
Size: 5526079 bytes
Length: 345 seconds  (3min9sec)
MPEG 1.0 layer 3
128kbit, 13251 frames
44100hz Joint Stereo
i like it.  was going to wait and release the url with others and the skin,=20
but if it's gone that would suck or some thing.

i may as well ramble on and tell you that i have just about made another=20
winamp skin   of moby's evil face and very near finished.  i was looking for=20
mp3's to add to my readme.htm of the skin and found what i found on my littl=
e=20
search and a little more redundant moby songs, but i was on the internet lon=
g=20
enough for today and tomorow i think to have taken note.

if you had seen my late skins, you may not be all too excited about this one=20
but it is worth a look as the best winamp skin i've made.  i have very littl=
e=20
work to do to it.  wanna see what it looked like a little while ago?  the zi=
p=20
file is named AR03.zip if you'd like to download and see that it looks bette=
r=20
then the jpg.  i'll let you all know when it's all done. (it don't take too=20
long to download)
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/AR03.jpg


you say a mac skin converter????
could you please send me the url or someone please tell me how imeen what to=20
convert the bmp's to????


<>>[e-mail] (mazbass)
hi,
i have a few moby related items for sale...
moby=09everything is wrong UK cd with UNDERWATER UK 2 cds=0925/offers=09
mint
moby=09honey promo 12" remixes by Westbam and Moby=09UK 12" promo=0915=09
mint
i also have quite a few other dance/synth 12"s and cds for sale at the
address below. let me know if you're interested in anything--thanks!<<>

how much for everything is wrong/MobyUndrwatr???
i would like to hook up with it most likely

hasta vista-
tommy




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question
Date: 07 Apr 1999 17:24:49 -0700




Where did you find the Hymn single, and which version?  I've been looking
for damn near forever for it, and no luck...

     >Dan, I found that HYMN single at a Newbury Comics store (this is a
     record/music chain here in the Boston Area) with the Lopez stuff all
     filed under MOBY. They DO have a web site but not sure about
     availability.

     BTW - the HYMN single kicks major ass. It's MOBY at his Techno best
     (even though the "Everything is Wrong" version is kind of ambient). It
     has a secret MIX at the end as well. I believe in this CD single was
     the first version of "All that I Need is to be Loved" because they
     actually ask the listeners for their opinion of the song in the
     insert.

     Later,

     Jayson



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) go (get some) records
Date: 07 Apr 1999 22:29:13 EDT

Moby - Go (Rainforest, Video & Analog Mixes)=20
1991 Outer Rhythm =A310=20

Moby Move - The Mixes 1993 Mute =A37=20

anyone claim these yet....if not..i'll take it..love..elie



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question
Date: 09 Apr 1999 13:02:17 +0900

Newbury Comics is a great store, huh? I imagine I will be spending a lot of
time there once college starts.I also found the Lopez singles there but have
never seen Hymn, the regular version. I have seen alt.... there though.

Oh, when I was in Hong Kong I finally saw a Moby video! JBT. It was OK, but I
imagine it couldn't be great since the song sucks anyway. Also saw Orbital,
FSOL, Daft Punk, and two Pet Shop Boys video and watched for less than 4 hours
all week. I have a new respect for MTV. Just not the American MTV.

Finally, and this is about as off topic as the gas post, but have any of you
ever heard Faye Wong? If so, please tell me anything. Thanks a lot. Later.
AJ



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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3,ra 4 U/skin/ re:lated items 4 sale
Date: 08 Apr 1999 12:19:44 +0200

http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei/moby/sounds/ra/higher.ram
>does anybody know what song this is?
>it's just a sample but i don't remember hearing it or sein' a song called
>higher by moby anywhere that i recall.

This is the song that you mean:

HIGHER  (26:58)  [Voodoo Child, Jun 1995]
UK CD, Trophy/Mute, CDTrophy1
CD, Trophy/Mute/Intercord, INT 826.663 (CDTrophy1)

 NOTE:  Sim 1 is a highly repetitive ambient track.

 1  4:50  Higher
 2  8:04  Desperate
 3 14:00  Sim 1

Bart







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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: (mobility) Voodoo Child (was: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question)
Date: 08 Apr 1999 11:06:11 -0400

I have heard OF Demons/Horses and Desperate/Higher, just never seen/listened
to them.  That's the problem with Boise, ID...we're like a wasteland,
nothing good goes in, nothing bad escapes.  Its amazing that I have what I
do have...

Back to the subject...I tend to base my opinions on what I've heard, and
what I've heard of Voodoo Child was very ambient in my opinion.  However,
I'll add Demons/Horses and Desperate/Higher to my "list"

daniel

"Lime green and tangerine, the sickly sweet colors of the snakes I'm
seeing..." - The Cure

>Daniel, have you ever heard Demons/Horses and Desperate/Higher
>by Voodoo Child? They are both VERY hard techno...
>The Hymn single is still available at Mute I think... I am not at home now,
>otherwise I'd probably be able to tell you whether it's available on
>http://www.ab-cd.com
>
>Bye,
>
>Bart van Eijck
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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From: David J Bass <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question)
Date: 08 Apr 1999 13:32:52 EDT

Hey, thats off of "Wrong Number" which is indeed exclusively on the
singles collection by "The Cure"
Sorry but I couldn't resist.  Anyway, I have a question. Is there a big
difference between the Into the Blue remixes for the U.S. and the remixes
for the U.K., or is it even a difference not to worry about?

Thanks,
Dave

"...Lime green and Tangerine, the sickly sweet colors of the devils in my
dreams."

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Question: Into the Blue
Date: 08 Apr 1999 20:36:24 +0200

>Anyway, I have a question. Is there a big
>difference between the Into the Blue remixes for the U.S. and the remixes
>for the U.K., or is it even a difference not to worry about?


What do you mean by the remixes for the US? All the Into the Blue singles
are originally European and released on Mute. There is CDMute179 which
is an export-cd for the US and some other countries. here's some info:

INTO THE BLUE {#1 for export}  (22:14)  [Jun 1995]
UK CD, Mute, CDMUTE 179

NOTE:  When the Jr. Vasquez mixes became available this CD was
redone as CDMUTE179A, and the CDMUTE179s which were already
made were basically used for export.

 1  4:10  Into The Blue (Beatmasters Mix)
[Beatmasters]
 2  4:49  Shining
 3  7:29  Into The Blue (Summer Night Mix)
 4  5:38  Into The Blue (Into The Blues Mix)                     [Jon
Spencer]

The two UK Into the Blue singles:
original (CDMute179A) and remixes (LCDMute179) together have 11
versions of Into the Blue, so there is a big difference between this export
cd and the two European releases.... The export version does have a
beautyful bonus track (Shining), but that is also on the "enhanced cd" Disk.

Oh, now we're talking about Into the Blue, does anyone know where I can
get the German cd releases? And from Move and Hymn?
I live in Holland (which borders to Germany) and still I can't seem to find
any
German release.....

As allways, thanks to D. Cerman for the Discography info, where would I be
without it....

Bart.








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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) music
Date: 08 Apr 1999 14:52:54 EDT

hey
this is non moby related ...

but does anyone know a date for the new orbital ?

and are there any really good  new cds out ...


-



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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: (mobility) Question (was Re: (mobility) Intro & Question)
Date: 08 Apr 1999 13:40:31 -0400

Jayson,

>     >Dan, I found that HYMN single at a Newbury Comics store (this is a
>     record/music chain here in the Boston Area) with the Lopez stuff all
>     filed under MOBY. They DO have a web site but not sure about
>     availability.

Could I get that address from you?  And do you know if they do online ordering?
>
>     BTW - the HYMN single kicks major ass. It's MOBY at his Techno best
>     (even though the "Everything is Wrong" version is kind of ambient). It
>     has a secret MIX at the end as well. I believe in this CD single was
>     the first version of "All that I Need is to be Loved" because they
>     actually ask the listeners for their opinion of the song in the
>     insert.

Thanks for the bit of torture...I'll have to go home and pick up my copy of
EIW and take it to work with me....

daniel

"its all right, she moves in mysterious ways" - either U2 or KMFDM,
depending on which version you listen to...







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From: "Aaron Conroy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Intro & Question
Date: 09 Apr 1999 12:31:53 CST

>Where did you find the Hymn single, and which version?  I've been looking
>for damn near forever for it, and no luck...

This may be too much trouble for many, but you never know with moby
fans.  I bought Moby's UK singles hymn and hymn.alt.quiet.version
from a place online called ROCKHOUSE

http://www.musicmailexpress.com/

You can order online which is simple enough but this place is in
Holland which complicates things.  If you are trusting enough of the
postal system they will take US cash and there are several other
payment options.
Aaron Conroy



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play
Date: 09 Apr 1999 17:14:07 -0600

I now have the final UK release of _Play_ (Mute: CDStumm172)!  Some
of the pictures in it are a little silly, but Moby is just being
PLAYful, I guess. :)

I'm now going to get a bit analytical describing the cover art, so
don't feel you have to read this.  A picture is worth a thousand
words. ;)  Sorry I don't have a scan yet.

The cover is a photograph of Moby jumping.  To go into more detail,
it is mostly a textured blue wall.  In the lower left, a hand is
seen holding up some strange device that appears to be monitoring or
measuring Moby in some way.  Moby is wearing old shoes, white socks,
black pants, and a normal white office/professional/church/whatever
shirt that looks too big and is open, revealing his chest.  Moby has
a strained expression on his downturned face as he jumps with arms
raised and legs retracted.  He is going off the picture, so you can
actually see only one arm and one leg.  Below him is a small reddish
'play' symbol (a triangle pointing to the right).  In the upper left
corner of the cover, MOBY is printed in white Honey-style letters
with PLAY underneath it in that reddish color.

On the back of the CD case, Moby is shown in the same setting, but he
is standing still with the open shirt, looking kind of blankly over
in the direction of the person whose arm & hand is shown holding that
unknown device.  It has an LCD screen, a few buttons, and trackball-
like thing on top.  The album tracks are listed to the left of Moby
in white letters.  Each track is preceded by a reddish 'play' symbol.

 > Honey
 > Find my baby
 > Porcelain
 > Why does my heart feel so bad?
 > South side
 > Rushing
 > Bodyrock
 > Natural blues
 > Machete
 > 7
 > Run on
 > Down slow
 > If things were perfect
 > Everloving
 > Inside
 > Guitar flute & string
 > The sky is broken
 > My weakness

The reddish PLAY color doesn't show up very well against the blue
wall background.  Actually it's kind of red-orange with a touch of
purple.  It's a bright tropical type color.

Inside the booklet, the first page is credits, with a picture of Moby
standing on a city street corner on the facing page.  The following
pages have five short essays and a list of quotes interspersed
between more pictures of Moby jumping and standing on his head.

In essay 1, Moby talks about why fundamentalism of any kind troubles
him.  "But if we base our belief systems on the humble assumption
that the complexities of the world are ontologically beyond our
understanding, then maybe our belief systems will make more sense and
end up causing less suffering."

Essay 2 concerns the poor treatment of prisoners and also argues that
people should not be locked up for taking drugs.

Essay 3 advocates veganism.

Essay 4 speaks out against allowing atrocities to be commited to
groups of people.  "As compassionate citizens we need to be
adamantly intolerant of regimes that openly and intentionally
victimize segments of their populations."

Essay 5 is directed against "supposed Christians who promote the use
of violence against abortion clinics, doctors, the federal government,
and anyone else who rubs them the wrong way."

The quotes are from major figures of various religions speaking
against animal abuse.

The back of the booklet is a large white 'play' symbol against the
reddish background.  This is what you see when you open the CD case,
and it's pointing to the CD next to it.  The CD is the same reddish
color and has all the song names printed on it.

And of course the music is great!  It's generally slow to medium
tempo (the only fast track is "Machete"), but it's wonderful.  I'm
going to review it soon, but I think this message is long enough.
I'm pretty sure that most people will greatly enjoy _Play_ when it
comes out.

_Play_ will be released worldwide on May 17, except in the USA and
Canada (June 1), and Japan (June 7).  Further information will be
posted at http://www.moby.org/reviews/play.html

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: "Ruben A. Blanco" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby - Run On MP3
Date: 09 Apr 1999 18:59:59 -0500

Hello All,

On www.oth.net I found (4-9-99 @ 3:00pm, central time):

ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/
ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -1- Run On.mp3
ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -2- Spirit.mp3
ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -3- Running.mp3

You have to upload first before you can download. Get them while you still can.

EXCELLENT SONGS!!!!!!  I can't wait for their official releases!

Anybody have space for them so that we can all get to them without uploading?
I need some other Moby songs, can somebody help me with getting them on MP3?

Sorry if everybody thinks that this is wrong, but not everybody can enjoy pre-releases of Moby's new Music.
Here is a chance for some people to hear the new music, to help them make it through till the official release dates.

Now everybody can appreciate the comments being written here on Moby's new music :)

Ruben Blanco
[e-mail]





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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) VC, ENM, & Yamaha Synthesizer Preset
Date: 09 Apr 1999 18:56:07 PDT

>Daniel Redmond Wrote:
>>Voodoo Child is a lot of very ambient music in my opinion,
>>while Lopez is harder techno
>
>Daniel, have you ever heard Demons/Horses and Desperate/Higher
>by Voodoo Child? They are both VERY hard techno...


hi, just adding my $.02.  I got really used to Voodoo Child being the
harder/darker side of Moby that's why, in 1996, EOE was a little
suprising.

anyone going to moby's chicago dj gig should try to record it.  I for
one, would love to hear it (and can supply a blank tape or CD to
anyone that would dub me a copy).  I like the Mixmag CD w/him & Sven
Vath.

A few years ago, I was checking out a Yamaha synth at a local music
store and one of the presets was called "moby"!  any of the musicians
here familiar with that?  (I can't remember which synth it was.) he
seems to use roland & yamaha almost exclusively.

bye.

--a





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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3,ra 4 U/skin/ re:lated items 4 sale
Date: 09 Apr 1999 20:24:41 -0500

>you say a mac skin converter????
>could you please send me the url or someone please tell me how imeen what
>to=20
>convert the bmp's to????

http://www.solsticetechnologies.com/

MacAMP skins use a completely different format, not simply limited to graphics.

--
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Run On images
Date: 09 Apr 1999 23:27:35 EDT

hello again
steve and i sort of thought you may appreciate seing what Run On looks like.
so:..
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/runon.htm

thanks

The C.O.D. writes:

<< >you say a mac skin converter????
 >could you please send me the url or someone please tell me how imeen what
 >to=20
 >convert the bmp's to????

 http://www.solsticetechnologies.com/

 MacAMP skins use a completely different format, not simply limited to
graphics.

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     C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
     |                <jct1@
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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) VC, ENM, & Yamaha Synthesizer Preset
Date: 10 Apr 1999 00:04:21 -0400 (EDT)

hi all....i have some more info but i'll post later...
but for now..

anyone going to see Moby In Cleveland?
it's cleveland right?
Some friends of mine here at Syracuse university are thinking about going
out there...anyone want to meet up? or somethin...
Anyone out there from the Syracuse area?

post more later,

danielle




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On and its music video
Date: 10 Apr 1999 10:27:29 -0600

Geoffrey Sproule wrote:
> I have got a copy of run on from a friend who is a dj ...

> I cant watt for the album if this is anything to go by ;-)

"Run On" is something to go by.  Though of course the album is varied
and interesting, "Run On" is a fairly good representative track.  And
I really, really like it too, though I didn't on the first listen.

The music video for "Run On" is so good it's on the verge of being
*classic*, in my humble opinion (imho).  The way it tells its story
backwards is brilliantly conceived, and so captivating that even
people who don't like the song will probably stay glued to their sets
just trying to find out what happened EARLIER...  :)

I played the video for a friend who is not a Moby fan, and he liked
both the song and the video.  This is good.

I hope that the videos for both "Honey" and "Run On" will be shown in
the USA when the maxi-single is released here on May 11.  They're
both neat. :)

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
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From: "Casey Pentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) The introduction of myself
Date: 10 Apr 1999 13:09:59 PDT

Hi! My name's Casey.  I'm 19 years old, and I've been a Moby fan for
about 4 years.

This is my Moby collection:

1.) The Drop a Beat single
2.) Moby
3.) Ambient
4.) Early Underground
5.) The Move ep
6.) Everything is Wrong (with the bonus Underwater cd)
7.) Everything is Wrong DJ Mix Album (2cd)
8.) Everytime you Touch Me single (with The Blue Light of the
Underwater Sun)
9.) The Hymn: This is my Dream single
10.) The Hymn.alt.Quiet.Version
11.) Feeling So Real Remixes
12.) Voodoo Child: End of Everything (uk)
13.) Voodoo Child: Demons/Horses single
14.) Voodoo Child: Higher single
15.) Lopez: Why can't it Stop single
16.) Lopez: Emptiness single
17.) Rare: The collected B-sides (with the Ultimate Go remixes)
18.) Mixmag Live Vol.2 w/ Sven Vath and Moby
19.) That's when I Reach for my Revolver single (with Dark and
Everyone of my Problems)
20.) The Come on Baby single (with Go live at the Splash Club)
21.) Animal Rights UK version w/ bonus Little Idiot cd
22.) Animal Rights US version
23.) The James Bond Theme remixes
24.) I Like to Score
25.) Honey single
26.) Honey remixes cd
27.) Honey remixes double vinyl

     I am currently looking for the DJ Cake single
     I also have pre-ordered the two Run On singles



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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On music video
Date: 10 Apr 1999 22:57:48 +0200

Daniel Cerman wrote:
>The music video for "Run On" is so good it's on the verge of being
>*classic*, in my humble opinion (imho).  The way it tells its story
>backwards is brilliantly conceived, and so captivating that even
>people who don't like the song will probably stay glued to their sets
>just trying to find out what happened EARLIER...  :)
>
>I played the video for a friend who is not a Moby fan, and he liked
>both the song and the video.  This is good.


Mute (and V2) should release an enhanced Moby single once with the
video on mpeg! Other record companies do it too. I have the videos of:
The Cardigains - My favourite game
2 Bros. On the 4th. Floor - The sun will be shining
Outlander - The vamp
And 2 videos from a Dutch singer called Anouk.....

Bart




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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) The introduction of myself
Date: 11 Apr 1999 16:11:38 +0200

Hello Casey, welcome to the list!

You wrote that you have:
>25.) Honey single
>26.) Honey remixes cd
>27.) Honey remixes double vinyl

Could you please give me a tracklisting of that 2x12" of Honey?
Thanks

Bart






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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) contest
Date: 11 Apr 1999 15:20:33 PDT


I'd like to congratulate Bart for winning the review contest. Bart,
your reviews illustrated Moby's remixes very well and your enthusiasm
made me enjoy reading about these songs as much as you enjoy hearing
them. I'd like to thank the other participants for entering and I
hope you enjoyed writing your reviews.

I promised a review of the Run On 12", and I'll deliver soon.

-Steve

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From: "Casey Pentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mario C?
Date: 11 Apr 1999 19:33:18 PDT

     I was really surprised to see that Mario Caldato Jnr. mixed
Honey, because I'm a pretty big Beastie Boys fan, granted I'm not
into the new album.
     I was just wondering if anyone knows whether or not Mario C.
works with Moby on any other songs on Play.

     Casey

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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - Run On MP3
Date: 12 Apr 1999 07:29:48 -0500

> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/
> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -1- Run On.mp3
> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -2- Spirit.mp3
> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -3- Running.mp3
>
>
>
> could someone please email me the mp3's?  I do not have FTP access because
> of a firewall at my work on their server.......
>
> Thanks
>
> CK
>



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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby - Run On MP3
Date: 12 Apr 1999 07:40:39 -0500

What's the FTP user name and password?

Thanks,
Bri

t 07:29 AM 4/12/99 -0500, Chris Kloehr wrote:
>> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/
>> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -1- Run On.mp3
>> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -2- Spirit.mp3
>> ftp://164.67.191.212/upload/Moby - Run On - promo/(Moby) -3- Running.mp3
>>
>>
>>
>> could someone please email me the mp3's?  I do not have FTP access because
>> of a firewall at my work on their server.......
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> CK
>>
>
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) The introduction of myself
Date: 12 Apr 1999 10:36:52 -0700



        Casey, I'm impressed with your collection. Where can I get those two
    VOODOO Child singles?? I only have the VOODOO Child "Dog Heaven" (or
    something like that) single which is actually pretty good. What is on the
    Underwater 2nd CD of Everything is Wrong??


______________________________________________________________________
Hi! My name's Casey.  I'm 19 years old, and I've been a Moby fan for
about 4 years.

This is my Moby collection:

1.) The Drop a Beat single
2.) Moby
3.) Ambient
4.) Early Underground
5.) The Move ep
6.) Everything is Wrong (with the bonus Underwater cd)
7.) Everything is Wrong DJ Mix Album (2cd)
8.) Everytime you Touch Me single (with The Blue Light of the
Underwater Sun)
9.) The Hymn: This is my Dream single
10.) The Hymn.alt.Quiet.Version
11.) Feeling So Real Remixes
12.) Voodoo Child: End of Everything (uk)
13.) Voodoo Child: Demons/Horses single
14.) Voodoo Child: Higher single
15.) Lopez: Why can't it Stop single
16.) Lopez: Emptiness single
17.) Rare: The collected B-sides (with the Ultimate Go remixes)
18.) Mixmag Live Vol.2 w/ Sven Vath and Moby
19.) That's when I Reach for my Revolver single (with Dark and
Everyone of my Problems)
20.) The Come on Baby single (with Go live at the Splash Club)
21.) Animal Rights UK version w/ bonus Little Idiot cd
22.) Animal Rights US version
23.) The James Bond Theme remixes
24.) I Like to Score
25.) Honey single
26.) Honey remixes cd
27.) Honey remixes double vinyl

     I am currently looking for the DJ Cake single
     I also have pre-ordered the two Run On singles



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT)

yes, dave the wave played Moby on the electro circus
the other night...


he played "Run On" at the beginning of the show, i
taped it, its pretty good but i like "honey" better.

he played "why does my heart feel so bad" the 2nd
hour, i taped that too, i like it a LOT. is that what
its called, or did dave just make that title up? i
have a feeling its titled something else, but he didnt
have the tracklisting or... i dont know.
3rd hour no moby, 4th i was asleep....


oh yeah, last week they played "Honey" on AMP... not
this week tho, but they played an old 808 vs. mc
tunes.... hmmmm........

]
oh yes, on WPKN laast night, one dj played this phat
dub reggae song, and all of a sudden i hear
"AH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAHHHH-WAH-WAH"...or
something..
yes, its the sample from The Orb's "Blue Room"! and it
was originally used in a song by Mad Professor called
"Fast Forward Into Dub", from 1984 or so! cool! then
he played 3 mixes of "Blue Room". well, theres a
musical history lesson for today! did anyone here
actually know that?

okay bye now...

===
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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 13:18:48 -0600

Paul Simpson wrote:
> yes, dave the wave played Moby on the electro circus
> the other night...

Please forgive my ignorance, but what is Electro Circus?  Is it on
the radio?  Where?

> he played "why does my heart feel so bad" the 2nd
> hour, i taped that too, i like it a LOT. is that what
> its called, or did dave just make that title up?

It is called "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" and it's a great song,
IMHO.  The track listing for _Play_ has been posted on mobility and
is on the web at http://www.moby.org/reviews/play.html

> oh yeah, last week they played "Honey" on AMP...

Excellent!  That's actually kind of an odd place to play it, since
"Honey" is not techno, but at least they played it.

> oh yes, on WPKN laast night, one dj played this phat
> dub reggae song, and all of a sudden i hear
> "AH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAHHHH-WAH-WAH"...or
> something..
> yes, its the sample from The Orb's "Blue Room"! and it
> was originally used in a song by Mad Professor called
> "Fast Forward Into Dub", from 1984 or so! cool! then
> he played 3 mixes of "Blue Room". well, theres a
> musical history lesson for today! did anyone here
> actually know that?

Thanks for the history lesson. :)  I didn't know where the sample
was from, but I think it's been used by others after the Orb made
"Blue Room".  Also, I'm 99% sure there is a Mad Professor remix of
"Blue Room".  Was it done by Mad Professor, or is the name just a
tribute to him/them?  Does Mad Professor have any other connection
to the Orb?

Speaking of the Orb, I understand that they should have a new album
and single out very soon.  Also, Orbital and Underworld have new
singles and albums out or just about to come out, and from what
I've seen & heard, they're pretty good.  1999 is a good year for
music.

BTW, Moby fans should get together and chat sometime.  We can do it
easily in the Moby clubs at Yahoo!

  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/moby
  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/mobyfans

BTW2, thank you Tommy <[e-mail]> for sending me that nicely
cropped scan which I turned into moby.org's latest header graphic!
:)

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 14:36:40 -0500


Hi!


Someone wrote:

Thanks for the history lesson. :)  I didn't know where the sample
was from, but I think it's been used by others after the Orb made
"Blue Room".  Also, I'm 99% sure there is a Mad Professor remix of
"Blue Room".  Was it done by Mad Professor, or is the name just a
tribute to him/them?  Does Mad Professor have any other connection
to the Orb?

Then I added:

The Mad Prof. did a Remix of "Towers of Dub", which appears on one
of the Blue Room Singles.  It's really trippy.  Personly, I find it to
be on of the best remixes of the song.

The Same person also wrote:

Speaking of the Orb, I understand that they should have a new album
and single out very soon.

I have an MP3 of the new Orb song.  It fuckin rocks!  It's called
'Once More'.  Not like any other Orb song.  I can see this going
top ten in the UK easily...

Cheers!
Bri




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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 12:43:33 PDT

Daniel Cerman wrote:

 I'm 99% sure there is a Mad Professor remix of
>"Blue Room".  Was it done by Mad Professor, or is the name just a
>tribute to him/them?  Does Mad Professor have any other connection
>to the Orb?

If I'm not mistaken, they're friendly with Mad Professor. It makes sense--Neil Fraser (aka Mad Prof) is from England, not Jamaica, so they've got some proximity to him.

>Speaking of the Orb, I understand that they should have a new album
>and single out very soon.  Also, Orbital and Underworld have new
>singles and albums out or just about to come out, and from what
>I've seen & heard, they're pretty good.  1999 is a good year for
>music.

Turns out that the new Orbital (which from friends' talk is supposed to be AMAZING) isn't coming out domestically!! Can you believe that?! Oh well--my guess is that when underworld debuts at no. 2 on the Billboard charts--or at least in the top 10--it'll get out here. Meantime we have to buy the import...

BTW: I now officially love Play. Really. Stayed away from it a few days and put it on again and it's WONDERFUL. I really underestimated it. I have a feeling this will happen with some of you as well. It's a new thing, especially for Moby, and it's worth the time it takes to appreciate it. Really.

PS: I am now (semi) officially going to Chicago and Cleveland to see the Little Idiot DJ. Haven't hammered out details, but it looks like I'll buy a 7-day Ameripass on Greyhound ($199 for unlimited mileage) and take an overnight to Chicago, get the next one to Cleveland, and then go to NYC for a day or maybe more, if I can get the time off work. (My friend Jason is doing a radio show--webcast--and wants me to help him interview rave historian and critic Simon Reynolds, author of Generation Ecstasy/Energy Flash, a great great great book that only mentions Moby once, unfortunately...)

Hope to see you all there.

Matos

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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 15:00:12 -0500

> Turns out that the new Orbital (which from friends' talk is supposed to be
> AMAZING) isn't coming out domestically!! Can you believe that?! Oh
> well--my guess is that when underworld debuts at no. 2 on the Billboard
> charts--or at least in the top 10--it'll get out here. Meantime we have to
> buy the import...
>
Just so you know.......Orbital's "Middle of Nowhere" is due to be released
in the States on June 8th.  I already have bought the import, and it is
amazing!  And from what I last heard The Orb's new album was pushed back to
September if my memory serves me right.

PS: They (orbital and the orb) also have email lists just like this one that
have a lot of good info and great people!




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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 22:05:07 +0200

>he played "Run On" at the beginning of the show, i
>taped it, its pretty good but i like "honey" better.


I felt the same way about Run On in the beginning...but after
listening to it a couple of times it started (I have to quote
Daniel Cerman now...) really to grow on me.
I really like Run On!

I'm fully aware of the fact that it sounds a lot like Honey, but
it has a different mood......can't quite explain that..

>oh yes, on WPKN laast night, one dj played this phat
>dub reggae song, and all of a sudden i hear
>"AH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAHHHH-WAH-WAH"...or
>something..
>yes, its the sample from The Orb's "Blue Room"! and it
>was originally used in a song by Mad Professor called
>"Fast Forward Into Dub", from 1984 or so! cool!

Dub + Mad Professor (+Massive Attack) = Cool!
I have this compilation CD called "High Fidelity Dub Sessions"
and listen to it a lot. Did you know that Moby played the bass
in a reggae band once?




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 16:02:19 -0700


     Paul,

     what is ELECTRO CIRCUS?

     - Jayson


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yes, dave the wave played Moby on the electro circus
the other night...


he played "Run On" at the beginning of the show, i
taped it, its pretty good but i like "honey" better.

he played "why does my heart feel so bad" the 2nd
hour, i taped that too, i like it a LOT. is that what
its called, or did dave just make that title up? i
have a feeling its titled something else, but he didnt
have the tracklisting or... i dont know.
3rd hour no moby, 4th i was asleep....


oh yeah, last week they played "Honey" on AMP... not
this week tho, but they played an old 808 vs. mc
tunes.... hmmmm........

]
oh yes, on WPKN laast night, one dj played this phat
dub reggae song, and all of a sudden i hear
"AH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAH-OOH-WAHHHH-WAH-WAH"...or
something..
yes, its the sample from The Orb's "Blue Room"! and it
was originally used in a song by Mad Professor called
"Fast Forward Into Dub", from 1984 or so! cool! then
he played 3 mixes of "Blue Room". well, theres a
musical history lesson for today! did anyone here
actually know that?

okay bye now...

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby chat, new Moby.org image
Date: 12 Apr 1999 22:16:13 +0200

>BTW, Moby fans should get together and chat sometime.  We can do it
>easily in the Moby clubs at Yahoo!
>
>  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/moby
>  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/mobyfans


Great idea, I'll look next time I'm online...

>BTW2, thank you Tommy <[e-mail]> for sending me that nicely
>cropped scan which I turned into moby.org's latest header graphic!


Cool! Moby looks just like a criminal who has his photo taken at the police
station... He looks grim enough for it!

Bart




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Subject: (mobility) remixes
Date: 12 Apr 1999 21:24:05 +0100

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P.S. I take it there is no bonus dc  :-(

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: new Moby.org image
Date: 12 Apr 1999 13:40:18 PDT

Bart wrote:
>Cool! Moby looks just like a criminal who has his photo taken at the
police
>station... He looks grim enough for it!

The uncropped photo has more empty space above Moby's head. There's a
reddish colored smudge in the upper left that looks like somebody's
fingerprint after eating some barbeque potato chips. Who knows, maybe
they were buffalo style ruffles...nah. :)

-S



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) electro circus
Date: 12 Apr 1999 15:31:21 PDT

Chris Kloehr wrote:

>Just so you know.......Orbital's "Middle of Nowhere" is due to be released
>in the States on June 8th.  I already have bought the import, and it is
>amazing!  And from what I last heard The Orb's new album was pushed back to
>September if my memory serves me right.

Weird...my friends who told me this got the
word from the distributor. They work at
Let It Be Records and usually are up on
their shit. I'll have to double check.

Sorry for any unnecessary confusion.

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From: Ruben A Blanco <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby - Run On.mp3
Date: 12 Apr 1999 16:48:29 -0600 (MDT)

The way I log-ed in was anonymous, then use your e-mail as password.
I was happy to see it available, however I don't know how long it will
stay available.

If anybody has space I can ftp them to be posted, I don't think they would
transfer that great over e-mail.

Ruben A. Blanco
[e-mail]
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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby - Run On.mp3
Date: 12 Apr 1999 17:52:04 -0500


Thanks, this worked for me....



At 04:48 PM 4/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
>The way I log-ed in was anonymous, then use your e-mail as password.
>I was happy to see it available, however I don't know how long it will
>stay available.
>
>If anybody has space I can ftp them to be posted, I don't think they would
>transfer that great over e-mail.
>
>Ruben A. Blanco
>[e-mail]
>****************************************
>
>
>
>




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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On...Where is Moby Heading?
Date: 12 Apr 1999 19:45:13 -0500

Hi all,

I've got Run On playing...I like it!  It's very cool, but I have to ask the
question "Where is Moby Heading" musically?  Here is what I ask that
question...

As much as we don't care to admidt it, all our fav. artists are in it to
make money and make a living.  That is not to say that they are selling out
(that is an entirely differnet topic).  I just don't see this song
selling...I don't see the commercial appeal.  To be frank, out of this and
Honey, the only version that seemed commercially oriented was the 'Rollo
and Sister Bliss Blunt Mix'.


I just am tying to see where he is heading, any thoughts?

Regards,
Bri




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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 12 Apr 1999 20:46:21 -0400 (EDT)


hello all.....I was watching the rock-n-jock baseball game on MTV this
afternoon with a friend and all of a sudden Honey began to play in the
background....
who knew....
maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).

skies,

danielle



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Subject: Re: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 12 Apr 1999 22:36:18 -0700

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> maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).
>
> skies,
>
> danielle

*rotflmao*
ha! that's funny.  that is a joke, right? RIGHT???? AGGGHHHHH!

in other news i finally saw the adidas commercial with the moby song...
very well done. i was impressed.  i thought i would hate it but it was a
lot better than those *other* commercials i kept seeing last year with
something like crystal method blasting as cars flew all over the place.
hehe... flying cars...what the heck am i talking about?  even i don't know.
peace.

-kelly
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impressed.  i thought i would hate it but it was a lot better than =
those *other* commercials i kept seeing last year with something like =
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re:Moby@ Transformation 2 at sports complex???
Date: 12 Apr 1999 22:50:03 EDT

   just to get my facts straight i saw on ravedata.com that transformation
would be at the cleveland sports complex.  any1 have any conformation......


   thanx,
   PB



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From: Shantung <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Run On...Where is Moby Heading?
Date: 12 Apr 1999 23:27:35 -0800

Hey..

I'm new to this list, and a quite big Moby-fan. I have all major Albums
and most of his singles. I've been a fan since around 1994. (Is there a
special way of introducing oneself here? Should I blunder along with age
and all that too?)

I heard Moby on "DanceFM" on P3 this Sunday, then he gave a hint on what
to be expecting from him in the future. He said that he did absolutely
everything on his records by himself (instruments, mixing'n'producing
etc.) and therefore all his records reflected his current state of
mind.

"In the future a wider variety of styles can be expected..." he said,
continuing with "... I understand being a Moby fan might be hard when
you don't know what to expect next ... ".

He said he was to be reconed a dance/techno-artist but that noone should
be supprised if he was releasing a punk or even a classical track. (I
believe he then meant ambient pieces..???)

Judging from the interview I think we can expect NY-house/NY-hip-hop
tunes with some rock and ambient tunes once in a while.
It is also important to note that the house/hip-hop scene also
continously changes. Currently hip-hop and soul influence a lot of the
scene while more deeper stuff is just around the corner.

IMHO I think Moby should've waited 6 months to release his album, maybe
we'd got a more deep-club oriented Moby (but that's only coz I like club
music better than hip hop...)

Commercialism...hmm, he also said "...when y2k comming up I think it's
important to be politically correc...hehe.. aware ..."
So I dont think Moby's gonna go just for the money. It'd of course be
lying to oneself to believe he's only into music to spread his view on
vegetarian life style and environmental issues, of course he is doing
music to make a living (and doing it quite good I've heard).
In the early nineties he was more an idealist than he's now, and I think
more and more of his youth-idealism is fading, but I sincerely believe
he is true to his (IMHO moderated)principles of
anti-drug/smoke/pollution/animal killing/etc...

OK
Thanx for reading

Shantung
Moby-fan

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Hi all,

I've got Run On playing...I like it!  It's very cool, but I have to ask
the
question "Where is Moby Heading" musically?  Here is what I ask that
question...

As much as we don't care to admidt it, all our fav. artists are in it
to
make money and make a living.  That is not to say that they are selling
out
(that is an entirely differnet topic).  I just don't see this song
selling...I don't see the commercial appeal.  To be frank, out of this
and
Honey, the only version that seemed commercially oriented was the
'Rollo
and Sister Bliss Blunt Mix'.


I just am tying to see where he is heading, any thoughts?

Regards,
Bri



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From: 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: hello people
Date: 13 Apr 1999 12:04:13 +0100

I'm back on-line again, I have no e-mail from home and have been on
easter holiday so couldn't use college.

       Ok, maybe the answer to this question is in the mass of e-mail
I'm trying to read through at the moment, but it might not, so....

    A friend of mine wants his band to perform FACE IT ( off AR) at a
local festival for local bands in the summer. But can't get hold of the
sheet music. Do any of you know anywhere we can get hold of this from,
to be able to have enough time to practice it he wants to get hold of it
now really.

Cheers to all of you who answer my increasingly irritating
questions..........

TOM




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Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 13 Apr 1999 10:20:09 -0700

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     Whoops! Kelly, ya beat me to the Addidas commercial thingy! ack!

     - Jayson


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> maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).
>
> skies,
>
> danielle

*rotflmao*
ha! that's funny.  that is a joke, right? RIGHT???? AGGGHHHHH!

in other news i finally saw the adidas commercial with the moby song...
very well done. i was impressed.  i thought i would hate it but it was a
lot better than those *other* commercials i kept seeing last year with
something like crystal method blasting as cars flew all over the place.
hehe... flying cars...what the heck am i talking about?  even i don't know.
peace.

-kelly
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danielle<br><br>*rotflmao*<br>ha! that's funny.  that is a joke, right?
RIGHT???? AGGGHHHHH!<br><br>in other news i finally saw the adidas commercial
with the moby song...  very well done. i was impressed.  i thought i
would hate it but it was a lot better than those *other* commercials i kept
seeing last year with something like crystal method blasting as cars flew all
over the place.  hehe... flying cars...what the heck am i talking about?
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 13 Apr 1999 10:18:54 -0700


     Oh yeah?? I can beat that.

     I was in the GAP (of all places!?) and heard HOney. What's up with
     that?? I told the cashier in front of me that I was pleased with their
     taste in music ;-)

     BTW - Has anyone seen the ADDIDAS commercial out now that uses a Moby
     track? The track is off of the Honey Single that has two new songs on
     it (3 songs total). I forget the name of the song though ... It's cool
     to see a commercial with a Moby song.

     BTW (again!) - The Fleet Center (where the Boston Celtics & Bruins
     play) intro to the Bruins for every pre-game introduction uses MOBY's
     James Bond Reversion for the music. Which happens to be quite cool
     because it is BLASTED throughout the arena on a pretty damn good sound
     system.


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hello all.....I was watching the rock-n-jock baseball game on MTV this
afternoon with a friend and all of a sudden Honey began to play in the
background....
who knew....
maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).

skies,

danielle




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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 13 Apr 1999 15:19:34 -0400 (EDT)

BTW...just curious....were they playing the honey single, or was it off
the permanent midnight soundtrack, or was it a cd that the store gave them
to play.  I know I might be caring a little too much about this but I'm
just curious as to whether someone bought the single and brought it to
work to play...or if it just happen to be on a cd they were playing.

thinkin too hard,

danielle

BTW kelly, OF COURSE i was kidding about the jock jams.....  =]

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
>      Oh yeah?? I can beat that.
>
>      I was in the GAP (of all places!?) and heard HOney. What's up with
>      that?? I told the cashier in front of me that I was pleased with their
>      taste in music ;-)
>
>      BTW - Has anyone seen the ADDIDAS commercial out now that uses a Moby
>      track? The track is off of the Honey Single that has two new songs on
>      it (3 songs total). I forget the name of the song though ... It's cool
>      to see a commercial with a Moby song.
>
>      BTW (again!) - The Fleet Center (where the Boston Celtics & Bruins
>      play) intro to the Bruins for every pre-game introduction uses MOBY's
>      James Bond Reversion for the music. Which happens to be quite cool
>      because it is BLASTED throughout the arena on a pretty damn good sound
>      system.
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
> Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET
> Date:    04/12/1999 8:46 PM
>
>
>
> hello all.....I was watching the rock-n-jock baseball game on MTV this
> afternoon with a friend and all of a sudden Honey began to play in the
> background....
> who knew....
> maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).
>
> skies,
>
> danielle
>
>
>




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:21:28 PDT

My younger sister had this on while we were eating dinner, and I heard
Honey played, too. It was the 118 mix, I think. (not 100% sure off the
top of my head) It's the mix that opens with the same beat that the
Extended mix of Run On opens with. (on the Run On 12") It sounds like
this: doo doo ch!, doo doo ch!, etc.


>From: Freak <[e-mail]>

>BTW...just curious....were they playing the honey single, or was it
off
>the permanent midnight soundtrack, or was it a cd that the store gave
them
>to play.  I know I might be caring a little too much about this but
I'm
>just curious as to whether someone bought the single and brought it
to
>work to play...or if it just happen to be on a cd they were playing.
>
>thinkin too hard,
>
>danielle
>
>BTW kelly, OF COURSE i was kidding about the jock jams.....  =]


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Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 13 Apr 1999 16:26:45 -0700


     Danielle,

     Not sure about the GAP-Honey experience ... I was so SHOCKED & elated
     that I think I freaked out the cashier by knowing who the hell the
     artist was in the first place. I just paid for my sweater and left.

     Maybe I'll go back and ask them about who picks the music they play.

     - Jayson


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BTW...just curious....were they playing the honey single, or was it off
the permanent midnight soundtrack, or was it a cd that the store gave them
to play.  I know I might be caring a little too much about this but I'm
just curious as to whether someone bought the single and brought it to
work to play...or if it just happen to be on a cd they were playing.

thinkin too hard,

danielle

BTW kelly, OF COURSE i was kidding about the jock jams.....  =]

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
>      Oh yeah?? I can beat that.
>
>      I was in the GAP (of all places!?) and heard HOney. What's up with
>      that?? I told the cashier in front of me that I was pleased with their
>      taste in music ;-)
>
>      BTW - Has anyone seen the ADDIDAS commercial out now that uses a Moby
>      track? The track is off of the Honey Single that has two new songs on
>      it (3 songs total). I forget the name of the song though ... It's cool
>      to see a commercial with a Moby song.
>
>      BTW (again!) - The Fleet Center (where the Boston Celtics & Bruins
>      play) intro to the Bruins for every pre-game introduction uses MOBY's
>      James Bond Reversion for the music. Which happens to be quite cool
>      because it is BLASTED throughout the arena on a pretty damn good sound
>      system.
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
> Subject: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
> Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET
> Date:    04/12/1999 8:46 PM
>
>
>
> hello all.....I was watching the rock-n-jock baseball game on MTV this
> afternoon with a friend and all of a sudden Honey began to play in the
> background....
> who knew....
> maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).
>
> skies,
>
> danielle
>
>
>





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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby wearing a dress in the bathtub
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:47:56 PDT

Moby did 180+ interviews for Play last week.

Michael Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby.

Then they went kareoke singing.

Etc.

I joke you not.

http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/newsarticle.asp?afl=rsn
&NewsID=7566&ArtistID=1603&origin=news

Make sure you get the whole link in your adrress line or else you may
get some Blondie news item.

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From: "Ginger Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby wearing a dress in the bathtub
Date: 13 Apr 1999 22:31:04 -0400

thanx steve!  i really loved reading that article...but one thing:  where or
when will we get to see these pictures Stipe took of Moby?  Are they going
to post some of them on the Rolling Stone webpage?
-g. walker




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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 13 Apr 1999 22:29:20 -0400 (EDT)

thanx...I don't really need to know that bad..but I just got to thinkin
about when I used to work at a mall 3 years ago..and we used to be able to
play whatever we wanted but then the company decided to use this
system..not sure exactly what..but each disc has like 200 songs or
something ridiculous on it...and you can't play your own cds...maybe
someone out there knows what I'm talking about and can explain it better.
Point being (yes there's a point), I'm wondering if someone owns the
song..or it was given to the store by the company to play..which I guess
would be kinda cool.
sorry this is so long......

danielle

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
>      Danielle,
>
>      Not sure about the GAP-Honey experience ... I was so SHOCKED & elated
>      that I think I freaked out the cashier by knowing who the hell the
>      artist was in the first place. I just paid for my sweater and left.
>
>      Maybe I'll go back and ask them about who picks the music they play.
>
>      - Jayson
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
> Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET
> Date:    04/13/1999 3:19 PM
>
>
> BTW...just curious....were they playing the honey single, or was it off
> the permanent midnight soundtrack, or was it a cd that the store gave them
> to play.  I know I might be caring a little too much about this but I'm
> just curious as to whether someone bought the single and brought it to
> work to play...or if it just happen to be on a cd they were playing.
>
> thinkin too hard,
>
> danielle
>
> BTW kelly, OF COURSE i was kidding about the jock jams.....  =]
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >
> >      Oh yeah?? I can beat that.
> >
> >      I was in the GAP (of all places!?) and heard HOney. What's up with
> >      that?? I told the cashier in front of me that I was pleased with their
> >      taste in music ;-)
> >
> >      BTW - Has anyone seen the ADDIDAS commercial out now that uses a Moby
> >      track? The track is off of the Honey Single that has two new songs on
> >      it (3 songs total). I forget the name of the song though ... It's cool
> >      to see a commercial with a Moby song.
> >
> >      BTW (again!) - The Fleet Center (where the Boston Celtics & Bruins
> >      play) intro to the Bruins for every pre-game introduction uses MOBY's
> >      James Bond Reversion for the music. Which happens to be quite cool
> >      because it is BLASTED throughout the arena on a pretty damn good sound
> >      system.
> >
> >
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> > Subject: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
> > Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET
> > Date:    04/12/1999 8:46 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > hello all.....I was watching the rock-n-jock baseball game on MTV this
> > afternoon with a friend and all of a sudden Honey began to play in the
> > background....
> > who knew....
> > maybe honey will be featured on the new jock jams CD (hee hee hee).
> >
> > skies,
> >
> > danielle
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby in europe ??? + address ???
Date: 14 Apr 1999 08:39:36 MET

 I would like to ask if someone knows about some summer festival or any
 concert, where moby could be seen in europe ( i mean europe like not on
 island, nor gibraltar). Something like the red hot chilli peppers show
 in prague (i guess in 1997).


 Next i wonder if there is any snail mail contact on moby himself,
 because i found some address on the US version of MOVE single, and
 then i found some three addresses of persons called richard hall in
 new york.
 Does anybody know?

 Thanxalot.

 ####
 #:^]kOHUT.
 ####



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) czech review
Date: 14 Apr 1999 08:39:45 MET

> > Does anybody speak & write Czechoslovakian on this list? All the
> > translation engines I could find for Czech to English were defunct, and
> > I'm not about to do it manually.
 I can do this thing 4 U,
 I'm slovak, so czech language doesn't make any problems to me.
 i'll send the translations later, i reply now just for the sudden
 joy that somebody needs me. :)

 p.s. i'm sorry i'm replying this late, but i have some problems with my
 mail, the english version of the review is ready, i just have to refine some
 idioms and that, you know, hard2translatestuff.

 so long.

 ####
 #:^] kohut.
 ####




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) fresh blood coming
Date: 14 Apr 1999 08:39:52 MET

 Hi everybody!
 i'm new to this list and here are my details.
  *  Name
  Matej Novotny (since this is a slovak name, for any problems with local
  pronunciation - it`s the same as MATTHEW in english)
  friends call me KOHUT (english :  rooster) don`t ask why, it`s a long history.

  *  Age
  18, male, student

  *  What is in your Moby collection
  quite modest collection but i`m happy i have at least this:

  animal rights + little idiot
  i like to score
  early underground
  the story so far
  ambient
  EIW mixed remixed
  + a tape copy of EIW, i still didn`t get to obtain the CD.
  + maxis: honey, honey rmx, move, move US version, revolver, revolver rmx

  *  Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are
  it was naturally GO (you knew the video was done by a slovak name Andrew
  Rudavsky ?) and then MOVE and i was taken aback. until now, moby has become
  a part of my identity and i feel him like being my very special friend, though
  he doesn`t know me.

  *  Other artists you like
  first techno & specially rave (the europe rave, not the american meaning),
  artists like Members Of Mayday, Dance 2 Trance, Westbam.
  then depeche mode, which i am also a big fan of.
  then all kinds of ambient
  but i also like hardguitarstuff + James Horner movie music, classic music etc.

  *  Any other interesting information you wish to share
  i`m preparing my own web page dedic8ed to moby, but on a different basis than
  the recent ones. i would like to addict this page to feelings people have
  about moby, to their own creations like pictures, poems, songs. all in all,
  this should be a very personal page for the users and i`d like them to express
  theirselves.
  i also have some moby stuff i haven`t seen on the web yet, so as soon
  as the page will be ready, i`ll let you know.

  p.s. i sometimes visit the mutelibtech.com and the moby conference there is
  very silent. can anybody tell me why?

  harmony and understanding to everybody.
  Yours:
  ####
  #:^] kOHUT
  ####




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From: 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: I saw the addidas thing to
Date: 14 Apr 1999 10:07:55 +0100



      Yeh, hi, I was just writting to say I was happy to hear Memory
Gospel on the addidas commercial, but they've been using other music on
the ad as well, like Fat Boy Slim, ah well. So long.

Tom

peace, and be happy




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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: I saw the addidas thing to
Date: 15 Apr 1999 05:09:48 -0400

>       Yeh, hi, I was just writting to say I was happy to hear Memory
> Gospel on the addidas commercial, but they've been using other music on
> the ad as well, like Fat Boy Slim, ah well. So long.
I wonder if this is the first ad using a Moby song... I remember a cars one,
but that wasnt an international ad, was it ?

Adidas made our days chosing Moby and Fatboy Slim, didnt they ? On the
other hand, I dont like Adidas tm :)

--
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      Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19  CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[4]: (mobility) rock-n-jock Moby
Date: 14 Apr 1999 08:50:38 -0700


     Danielle,

     I don't think there's a max to the length of a post is there?  ;-)


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thanx...I don't really need to know that bad..but I just got to thinkin
about when I used to work at a mall 3 years ago..and we used to be able to
play whatever we wanted but then the company decided to use this
system..not sure exactly what..but each disc has like 200 songs or
something ridiculous on it...and you can't play your own cds...maybe
someone out there knows what I'm talking about and can explain it better.
Point being (yes there's a point), I'm wondering if someone owns the
song..or it was given to the store by the company to play..which I guess
would be kinda cool.
sorry this is so long......

danielle





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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) fresh blood coming
Date: 14 Apr 1999 14:53:41 +0100 (British Summer Time)

Nice to have someone from Slovakia.

I went to The Czech Republic 6 years ago and loved it, but
never got the chance to visit Slovakia unfortunately.

Anyway you sound like a pretty active Moby fan.

Hope you find it fruitful on here.

Cheers.

Peace and understanding,

TMB

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:39:52 MET
[e-mail] wrote:

>  Hi everybody!
>  i'm new to this list and here are my details.
>   *  Name
>   Matej Novotny (since this is a slovak name, for any problems with local
>   pronunciation - it`s the same as MATTHEW in english)
>   friends call me KOHUT (english :  rooster) don`t ask why, it`s a long history.
>
>   *  Age
>   18, male, student
>
>   *  What is in your Moby collection
>   quite modest collection but i`m happy i have at least this:
>
>   animal rights + little idiot
>   i like to score
>   early underground
>   the story so far
>   ambient
>   EIW mixed remixed
>   + a tape copy of EIW, i still didn`t get to obtain the CD.
>   + maxis: honey, honey rmx, move, move US version, revolver, revolver rmx
>
>   *  Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are
>   it was naturally GO (you knew the video was done by a slovak name Andrew
>   Rudavsky ?) and then MOVE and i was taken aback. until now, moby has become
>   a part of my identity and i feel him like being my very special friend, though
>   he doesn`t know me.
>
>   *  Other artists you like
>   first techno & specially rave (the europe rave, not the american meaning),
>   artists like Members Of Mayday, Dance 2 Trance, Westbam.
>   then depeche mode, which i am also a big fan of.
>   then all kinds of ambient
>   but i also like hardguitarstuff + James Horner movie music, classic music etc.
>
>   *  Any other interesting information you wish to share
>   i`m preparing my own web page dedic8ed to moby, but on a different basis than
>   the recent ones. i would like to addict this page to feelings people have
>   about moby, to their own creations like pictures, poems, songs. all in all,
>   this should be a very personal page for the users and i`d like them to express
>   theirselves.
>   i also have some moby stuff i haven`t seen on the web yet, so as soon
>   as the page will be ready, i`ll let you know.
>
>   p.s. i sometimes visit the mutelibtech.com and the moby conference there is
>   very silent. can anybody tell me why?
>
>   harmony and understanding to everybody.
>   Yours:
>   ####
>   #:^] kOHUT
>   ####
>
>

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: "0" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility
Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:28:10 -0400


hey does anyone know where i can get moby tabs?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby logo
Date: 15 Apr 1999 14:02:03 MET

hi everybody.
i have just finished corel draw! conversion of the new moby logo
(first found on the revolver MCD i guess.) if anyone's interested,
let me know, i can send it to you. but i'm not sure if this is a
violation of any laws or not. so ...
if you can wait, it will be placed on my www to download.
that's all for now.

kohut.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) newbie!
Date: 15 Apr 1999 08:32:41 EDT

Hey everyone--

      My name is Kristin, and this is Day 1 of my Mobility experience!!
I'm sixteen years old, I'm from Little Rock, AR (no, I do not date
my cousins), and I love Moby!  Some of my other
favourite artists are Semisonic, Beasties, eels, etc..
I hope you guys will enjoy having me here as much as I will enjoy
hearing from you..

*Kristin*



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby in Chicago
Date: 15 Apr 1999 11:52:55 -0500 (CDT)


Just FYI,

The "Evil DJ Moby" spin set happening at the CroBar (Chicago) this Friday
is being SOLD thru ticketmaster.  I just found out yesterday that they
were selling tickets.  I friggin hate Ticketmaster so I had someone pick
up tickets for me....the are $25 BEFORE the ticketmaster fee.  Lord knows
what they are afterwards.

For anyone thinking about driving far, make sure you have a ticket!!!

Just thought I'd update the list,

-Greg





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) newbie!
Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:18:20 -0700


     welcome Kristin. There is always good stuff to learn on this list.

     - Jayson


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Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET


Hey everyone--

      My name is Kristin, and this is Day 1 of my Mobility experience!!
I'm sixteen years old, I'm from Little Rock, AR (no, I do not date
my cousins), and I love Moby!  Some of my other
favourite artists are Semisonic, Beasties, eels, etc..
I hope you guys will enjoy having me here as much as I will enjoy
hearing from you..

*Kristin*




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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #368
Date: 15 Apr 1999 11:12:21 PDT

> Next i wonder if there is any snail mail contact on moby himself,
> because i found some address on the US version of MOVE single, and
> then i found some three addresses of persons called richard hall in
> new york.
> Does anybody know?

I had a mailing address (his home or studio...not sure which) but
it's now obsolete.  also had two phone numbers from a phone interview
I did w/him about 5 years ago.  however, it's been awhile.  The
initial way I got hold of him was through the MOVE address you
mentioned (on the inside sleeve).  Over the course of the last five
years, I've seen at least as many mailing addresses so I guess
anywhere you send it, he'll eventually get it  (seems like I saw a
different address on the HYMN single too, can't quite remember).

anyone heard 'The Pork Guys'?  How is it?

over & out,

--a



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) what is e.c.?
Date: 15 Apr 1999 11:53:08 -0700 (PDT)

the electro circus is this show on radio 104 (one of the worst stations
ever) that plays electronic music. the host, dave the wave, has
connections with everyone or so he says. like 4 months ago he said he
had a copy of play, but he only played 1 song. but now he actaully
played more of  it. he played shit from the new underworld like 3
months ago also.

yes, um, that Orb thing, its great to hear where familiar samples and
beats etc. are from. it was totally weird hearing the Blue Room sample
just out of nowhere, in a dub song of all places...

did moby really play in a reggae band? that would be kind of cool...

speaking of reggae, i was doing phones at WPKN for fundraising (203 384
9756 call now!!!) and Sister Del Ali, one of the hosts of the reggae
show called me and i took her pledge. kickass!

Oh yes, what does the new Orb sound like? is it like "Mickey MArs" from
UFOFF?  i like that one a lot. well whatever it sounds like it must be
phat.

what does the moby synth setting sound like?

DRUM CIRCLE ON WPKN SATURDAY!!!! 6PM-10PM OR SO????

ANYONE WANT TO COME WITH ME? IF YOU LIVE IN NEW ENGLAND OR NEW YORK OR
SOMEWHERES WE CAN WORK SUMPIN OUT!
bye1
===
"BUY MY POTATO POWERED PANTS! SUCKERS!!!!!"-Precious Roy
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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From: "Dickerson Architecture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play for sale
Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:21:37 -0400

I am selling my advance Play CD.  Unfortunately, I have to do the dreaded
auction thing.  It will start with what I paid for it:  $12.  Please let me
know (off-list) if you're interested before Tuesday (April 20th) 5pm EST.

Cheers,
Steve




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) what is e.c.?
Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:57:35 -0700


     Paul,

     What city are you listening to this from??

     I live in Boston. Does it come out here??

     - Jayson


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Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET


the electro circus is this show on radio 104 (one of the worst stations
ever) that plays electronic music. the host, dave the wave, has
connections with everyone or so he says. like 4 months ago he said he
had a copy of play, but he only played 1 song. but now he actaully
played more of  it. he played shit from the new underworld like 3
months ago also.

yes, um, that Orb thing, its great to hear where familiar samples and
beats etc. are from. it was totally weird hearing the Blue Room sample
just out of nowhere, in a dub song of all places...

did moby really play in a reggae band? that would be kind of cool...

speaking of reggae, i was doing phones at WPKN for fundraising (203 384
9756 call now!!!) and Sister Del Ali, one of the hosts of the reggae
show called me and i took her pledge. kickass!

Oh yes, what does the new Orb sound like? is it like "Mickey MArs" from
UFOFF?  i like that one a lot. well whatever it sounds like it must be
phat.

what does the moby synth setting sound like?

DRUM CIRCLE ON WPKN SATURDAY!!!! 6PM-10PM OR SO????

ANYONE WANT TO COME WITH ME? IF YOU LIVE IN NEW ENGLAND OR NEW YORK OR
SOMEWHERES WE CAN WORK SUMPIN OUT!
bye1
===
"BUY MY POTATO POWERED PANTS! SUCKERS!!!!!"-Precious Roy
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





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From: "Casey Pentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Play cd
Date: 15 Apr 1999 16:27:55 PDT

    I was wondering if the advance play cd, is somehow different as
the one that will come out May 17th, or is it exactly the same.  I'm
asking because Steve is selling it, and I was wondering why he's
selling it.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) the pork guys
Date: 15 Apr 1999 20:36:01 EDT

the pork guys is a really good album with moby on drums.  i haven't listen to
it in a while but now that someone mentioned it i think i will go give it a
listen to.  ~courtney~



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From: "Tim Marshall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Memory Gospel?
Date: 15 Apr 1999 17:52:12 PDT


Hello all, i am a new member. I am looking for the mp3 memory
gospel... if you have it, would you please e-mail me back!!!

Timbo

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From: 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: I've read all the mobility from the past two weeks, wow.
Date: 16 Apr 1999 11:40:50 +0100

Floss

I've read all the mobility mail from the past two weeks now.....

Quotes from Tim Beecher

>I've got - guessed - lyrics to the whole animal rights album at
>angelfire.com/hi/dropabeat/animalrights.html

   Cheers, I've been there now. I could never understand that much of
what he says on the Album. But, I'm pretty sure that on Soft Moby sings
"I feel ill"
as opposed to
"I feel it"

You can't really tell what he's singing on AR most of the time, I just
think " I feel ill" can be screamed with more emotion. Other people
who've heard Soft off the Kerrang tape think so too.
Oh, and on Come on Baby I think he says
God...God...God...HELL!!!!!!
Or maybe I just hear that because that's how I feel.

Something a friend is sure of after hearing Face It, but I'm not sure
why..Is Face it about vivisection. I don't think so, but she's pretty
sure on this.

Oh, and, even though I'm mainly into metal, I'm sure I've got something
by KLF. Not Moby related, but people kept mailing about it in the past 2
weeks.
" All aboard, all aboard, yeah yeah,  woo hoo" something like that I
think.

   As well as Adidas, the BBC used James Bond theme for the Scarlett
pimpernal trailers.

Oh, and hello all you many new people, smile

" The race is long, and in the end it's only with yourself."
Everyone is free to wear sunscrean






TOM




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From: Ovidiu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) about me
Date: 16 Apr 1999 13:36:13 -0400 (EDT)

    My name is Ovidiu I'm 21 years old I am from Romania,and I am
looking for a new experience so I decided to join your list...
    About my moby passion is not so great I just like how, some of his
song sounds like, but not all of them (I guess that a definition of fan is
to
like it all<so I am not>).
    About my colection of moby albums, in this are only 3 albums:
1.Feeling so real
2.Animal rights
3.I like to score
    I guess thats all by now
    Bye!!!




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) the pork guys
Date: 16 Apr 1999 09:05:46 -0700


     PORK GUYS???

     When did this come out??

     - Jayson


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the pork guys is a really good album with moby on drums.  i haven't listen to
it in a while but now that someone mentioned it i think i will go give it a
listen to.  ~courtney~




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) the pork guys
Date: 16 Apr 1999 06:48:35 PDT


Last year sometime it came out on a smoky brown colored 7". It's a
goofy punk parody thing which Moby plays drums on. It's about 5 or 6
minutes long, 4 songs, and I'd say it's a cool novelty to have if
you're a big fan. It's not something you'll listen to frequently, and
has little in the way of redeeming musical value. It is funny, though.

-Steve

PS That's a different Steve selling Play, not me.



>     PORK GUYS???
>
>     When did this come out??
>
>     - Jayson


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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Memory Gospel
Date: 16 Apr 1999 08:45:09 -0600

Tim Marshall wrote:
> Hello all, i am a new member. I am looking for the mp3 memory
> gospel... if you have it, would you please e-mail me back!!!

Tim, "Memory Gospel" is on CD #1 (CDMute218) of the UK Honey single.
If you live in the USA, you only need to wait until May 11, when it
will be released on the Honey/Run On CD maxi-single.  It's almost
here...

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Fantastic Plastic Machine, "Philter"



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) strike 2
Date: 16 Apr 1999 08:01:03 PDT


I sent a message on the 14th that apparently never went through,
must've gotten got in a filter. Since I didn't save it before I sent
it, here's a chopped abbreviated version.

Matej,

The only show in Europe that I know of off the top of my head is
Mayday in Dortmund, Germany. Moby will be there on April 30. Check
Fair Warning for other European Moby concert dates in the future.

http://www.mayday.de
http://www.fwwt.com

Ginger,

You're welcome! The article mentioned a magazine that Michael Stipe
was taking the photos of Moby for. They should appear in there. Since
Moby did lots of interviews, I'm sure some press photos were taken to
accompany them. I hope the interviews publish sooner (UK Play release)
as opposed to later. (US Play release)

-Steve

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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #368
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:30:27 +0100 (British Summer Time)

Who were you doing this phone interview for, or why? Just
curious.

TMB

> I had a mailing address (his home or studio...not sure which) but
> it's now obsolete.  also had two phone numbers from a phone interview
> I did w/him about 5 years ago.
> --a
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
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>

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[e-mail]




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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: I've read all the mobility from the past two weeks, wow.
Date: 16 Apr 1999 16:56:34 +0100 (British Summer Time)

That's strange Tom, cause the stuff below are not my
quotes! I think I've been misquoted a few times before,
notably from John Turpin on the abortion issue (shit,
shouldn't have mentioned that!) and UHF (when it was my
friend and not me) or have I misquoted them - was it
someone else? Apologies if I have. What's going on, or am I
definitely losing it!?

Just thought I'd share what a brilliant night we had last
night when The Chemical Brothers, Leftfield, The Propeller
Heads, Howie B and other lesser known DJs played the new
London venue - The Scala last night! It's had 3 floors
of dance muzak and was really kicking. It was in aid of the
Kosovo refugees. I also had to go because Moby's playing
The Scala in May. He should sound brilliant there!

Ciao people,

TMB

P.S. By the way Tom, I love punk/metal/goth/industrial/
crossovers - well most types of music really (as long as it
sounds good) and AR has got to be one of my favourite Moby
albums, as I keep telling everyone.


On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:40:50 +0100 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Floss
>
> I've read all the mobility mail from the past two weeks now.....
>
> Quotes from Tim Beecher
>
> >I've got - guessed - lyrics to the whole animal rights album at
> >angelfire.com/hi/dropabeat/animalrights.html
>
>    Cheers, I've been there now. I could never understand that much of
> what he says on the Album. But, I'm pretty sure that on Soft Moby sings
> "I feel ill"
> as opposed to
> "I feel it"
>
> You can't really tell what he's singing on AR most of the time, I just
> think " I feel ill" can be screamed with more emotion. Other people
> who've heard Soft off the Kerrang tape think so too.
> Oh, and on Come on Baby I think he says
> God...God...God...HELL!!!!!!
> Or maybe I just hear that because that's how I feel.
>
> Something a friend is sure of after hearing Face It, but I'm not sure
> why..Is Face it about vivisection. I don't think so, but she's pretty
> sure on this.
>
> Oh, and, even though I'm mainly into metal, I'm sure I've got something
> by KLF. Not Moby related, but people kept mailing about it in the past 2
> weeks.
> " All aboard, all aboard, yeah yeah,  woo hoo" something like that I
> think.
>
>    As well as Adidas, the BBC used James Bond theme for the Scarlett
> pimpernal trailers.
>
> Oh, and hello all you many new people, smile
>
> " The race is long, and in the end it's only with yourself."
> Everyone is free to wear sunscrean
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TOM
>
>

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Memory Gospel
Date: 16 Apr 1999 12:43:43 -0700


     you don't have to wait!!

     most stores in the USA have the import single of Honey w/ Memory
     Gospel on it. I've seen it everywhere for various prices. I would say
     7-9 dollars is average.

     go get it today!

     - Jayson


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Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET


Tim Marshall wrote:
> Hello all, i am a new member. I am looking for the mp3 memory
> gospel... if you have it, would you please e-mail me back!!!

Tim, "Memory Gospel" is on CD #1 (CDMute218) of the UK Honey single.
If you live in the USA, you only need to wait until May 11, when it
will be released on the Honey/Run On CD maxi-single.  It's almost
here...

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Fantastic Plastic Machine, "Philter"




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Chicago Reader dot com
Date: 16 Apr 1999 11:17:09 PDT


Matos,

I stumbled upon your well-written capsule history on Moby at the
Chicago Reader site I saw advertised in the Chicago Reader. I thought
everybody else would like to read it, too.

http://www.chireader.com/music/critic.html#AMOBY

-Steve Giles



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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) newbie!
Date: 16 Apr 1999 17:46:28 -0500


-----Original Message-----
>      My name is Kristin, and this is Day 1 of my Mobility experience!!
>I'm sixteen years old, I'm from Little Rock, AR (no, I do not date
>my cousins), and I love Moby!
>
Color Me Shocked!!

Finally another Moby fan from LR!

At last LR compares statistically to all you fans from, say, New York or
Chicago. Meaning there's a mulitplicity of Moby fans on the list from the
same place.

Welcome Kristin. Make a little noise. The people here are not shy. Ah, if
only you were older, I'd have to show you how I've turned on one of the dj's
at Discovery on to some of the newer Moby mixes and (oddly enough) the Lopez
singles.

Rock!

Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig
Bigwig Enterprises
[e-mail]

"I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words.
And I've often wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing."
 - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author

"The early bird gets the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese."




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From: Ruben A Blanco <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Little Idiot MP3s!
Date: 16 Apr 1999 17:10:14 -0600 (MDT)

Hello all,

Checked out www.oth.net again and found listing for:
? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload (singles)/Pumped By
(G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited Edition)/
 68   3778k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/01_A_Season_in_Hell.mp3
 69   3497k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/02_Love_Song_For_my_Mom.mp3
 70   3501k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/03_Dead_Sun.mp3
 71   3218k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/04_Degenerate.mp3
 72   1760k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/05_Dead_City.mp3
 73   4785k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited Edition)/06_Old.mp3
 74   2720k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/07_Reject.mp3
 75   3158k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/08_The_Blue_Terror_of_Lawns.mp3
 76   2910k ? ftp://leech:leech@24.0.158.123/c:/ftp/Mp3/upload
(singles)/Pumped By (G)/Moby - Little Idiot (Limited
Edition)/09_Walnut.mp3

Moby's AR Little Idiot MP3s. You have to upload before you can download I
guess. I already have this CD but for those that can't find this CD here
is your chance to preview them. Good Luck, I have not tried it out so I
don't know if you will be able to download them, but if you can more power
to you all.

Anybody else know of any good Moby MP3 sites?

Ruben
[e-mail]
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From: Ruben A Blanco <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On MP3!
Date: 16 Apr 1999 18:10:25 -0600 (MDT)

http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/joolsholland/467/topten.html

Go to DJ Beefchow's Webpage, then go to his TOP 10 List. Moby's Run-On is
listed as a Bonus Track to his Top 10 postings. You can listen to Moby's
New Run-On Entire Song!

There is also an MP3 of
Prodigy - Dirtchamber Sessions Vol 1 pt 2
And other good stuff.

Ruben
[e-mail]
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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: I've read all the mobility from the past two
Date: 16 Apr 1999 20:50:43 -0500

>Oh, and, even though I'm mainly into metal, I'm sure I've got something
>by KLF. Not Moby related, but people kept mailing about it in the past 2
>weeks.
>" All aboard, all aboard, yeah yeah,  woo hoo" something like that I
>think.

Last Train to Trancentral.

--
 The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
 My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"





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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) WPKN!
Date: 17 Apr 1999 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT)


okay go to <http://www.wpkn.org> i believe they have streaming audio
over the net and sometime today like 6 or 7 pm to 10 or so pm i will be
playing live drums and from 4-5pm i think i will be fundraising, and i
might get on the ari, also at 1130-1230 am. i know this is mega
disorganized but  i gotta go son...
so please listen! and if you caN GETT WPKN DONT LISTEN ON THE NET! BYE!
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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #369
Date: 17 Apr 1999 10:44:34 PDT

>From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
>
>Who were you doing this phone interview for, or why? Just
>curious.
>
>TMB
>

a friend of mine started a techno-music fanzine a number of years ago
and needed some articles, interviews, etc.  he interviewed Marc
Almond, Bob Moog, and some local industry people and I interviewed
Moby and also the late, great Damon Edge (a man who was amazingly
ahead of his time).  he tried to track down Vince Clark also but found
that to be an impossible challenge!

I don't exactly remember the 'Moby' synth preset sound, Paul, but I
have the vague memory of a symphonic sound (strings or something).
could be completely wrong though, it's been awhile.

--a

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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Chicago 4-16
Date: 17 Apr 1999 13:01:13 PDT

Here's my report:

The Crobar is a good-sized (about 1000 if squeezed tightly) space
that's all black and, you know, "decadent." The bars were uniformly
tended by women with enormous breasts, pushed forward, or by beefy-
looking guys. Not my thing, really, but hey.

Moby came on at midnight and played mostly trancey, epic tracks, with
extremely hard beats and splashes of vocals. He started with a good
speed-garage cut and worked out from there. And I have to be honest:
he was good but not amazing. Oh well. I left at 1:30--not because I
was disappointed (he was doing just fine) but because I was dead
tired. I'd taken a Greyhound from Mpls to Chicago the night before
and hadn't slept much or well; then I'd been walking around Chi-town
all day long, so my feet had had it. I'd also gotten to the club at
about 10:15 and danced to the first DJ (good stuff). So I couldn't
keep it going. Plus you couldn't fucking MOVE in this place. I didn't
stay till the end so I don't know if Moby dropped any of his own
stuff, but from the sound of it he didn't. Nope, not even others'
remixes of his. But he sounded good and I'm enjoying CHicago (where
I'm staying till Mon. nite).

Matos

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From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) future music mag
Date: 17 Apr 1999 22:57:47 +0100

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From: "trance former" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ravestock?!?
Date: 17 Apr 1999 22:07:47 PDT

hello fellow moby freaks,

recently i recieved information for a party happening in toronto in
the summer, the party is called RAVESTOCK and they are claiming to
have MOBY djing and others like frankie knuckles, the surgeon....
...this party seems like a hoaks though, it is said to be @
Canada's Wonderland (a admusement park) over a three day period,
things never go well there, but who no's...

...check out the sight...www.ravestock.com...

...hey Teknomonk, u in to goa, i am a goa dj, email me personally if u
want to talk goa and psy trance...

np: medeski, martin and wood "shack-man"

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From: "trance former" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) cars are evil
Date: 17 Apr 1999 22:19:25 PDT

hello again...

...just tyhe other day i was going thru my friends record collection
and found MOBY's GO remix 12", i never knew about the car commercial
thing, the anti car symbol was so cool, and the little disclaimer
about how the proceeds will go to anti car organizations or
sumthing!?!...one of the jam & spoon remixes was on there...

oh ya...anyone willing to trade moby tapes.. i have a moby interview
from 1995 when he wuz last in toronto, besides his lecture at canadian
music week in '98, he was interviewed by dr.trance a local trance dj,
who is god when it comes to the local seen, very interesting topics
and it's just cool to here moby talking about life and stuff...tracks
played are from the then new EIW album, i've added another sort MOBY
interview as well...so if your interested email me and we'll work
sumthing out...

peace...DJ AHIMSA

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicago 4-16
Date: 18 Apr 1999 01:44:41 EDT

my cousin went and gave me a report. he was right in front be moby, said that
the music was great and that he only played some of his music at the end. he
got moby's autograph on a dollar bill and a ticket. overall a good night



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
Date: 18 Apr 1999 02:43:54 EDT

I will bid $20US

-Carmen Barone



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) I Suck
Date: 18 Apr 1999 02:49:52 EDT

I apologize for the last message.  I sent the wrong info.  What I was trying
to post was that I live in Chicago and could not attend the CroBar show but
my good friend works there and taped Moby's set for me.  I will inform the
list when copies will be available.

-Carmen B




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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I Suck
Date: 18 Apr 1999 01:57:11 -0500

Carmen,
    RIGHT ON!  FINALLY A MOBY BOOTLEG!  I would love to get a copy of that.  AND
I have a cd burner... so if anybody wants it on disk... let me know

----rob

[e-mail] wrote:

> I apologize for the last message.  I sent the wrong info.  What I was trying
> to post was that I live in Chicago and could not attend the CroBar show but
> my good friend works there and taped Moby's set for me.  I will inform the
> list when copies will be available.
>
> -Carmen B




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) MTV.COM is kewl (whoa.......)
Date: 18 Apr 1999 03:17:41 EDT

If you go to MTV.com, click shows, then click AMP and there is a link which
says:

"Enter Moby's world with his new clip only for "Honey."

Click it and you've got HONEY, DRIPPING THROUGH YOUR SPEAKERS AND SEEPING OUT
YOUR MONITOR!!!!!

-Carmen B.



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From: "Tim Marshall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I Suck
Date: 18 Apr 1999 07:07:18 PDT

Hey Rob,

    I would like a memory gospel mp3 on my computer....can you help
me out?


>From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) I Suck
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:57:11 -0500
>
>Carmen,
>    RIGHT ON!  FINALLY A MOBY BOOTLEG!  I would love to get a copy
of that.  AND
>I have a cd burner... so if anybody wants it on disk... let me know
>
>----rob
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> I apologize for the last message.  I sent the wrong info.  What I
was trying
>> to post was that I live in Chicago and could not attend the CroBar
show but
>> my good friend works there and taped Moby's set for me.  I will
inform the
>> list when copies will be available.
>>
>> -Carmen B
>
>


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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ravestock?!?
Date: 18 Apr 1999 10:50:41 -0700

> recently i recieved information for a party happening in toronto in
> the summer, the party is called RAVESTOCK and they are claiming to
> have MOBY djing and others like frankie knuckles, the surgeon....
> ...this party seems like a hoaks though, it is said to be @
> Canada's Wonderland (a admusement park) over a three day period,
> things never go well there, but who no's...
>

Umm... CANADA'S WONDERLAND?  that is so non rave friendly its amusing...
that's gotta be a hoax.  or maybe its going to be electric circus gone
crazy or something.

the only 3 day festival i can think of is the world electronic music
festival, but that's in northern ontario not in woodbridge, where Canada's
wonderland is located.

hrm.  well, if this thing turns out to be real, keep me posted.  i live
about 20 minutes away from canada's wonderland and i'd probably have to see
it to believe it...

peace

-kelly



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicago 4-16
Date: 18 Apr 1999 14:45:40 -0500 (CDT)


On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> my cousin went and gave me a report. he was right in front be moby, said that
> the music was great and that he only played some of his music at the end. he
> got moby's autograph on a dollar bill and a ticket. overall a good night

Now, given, I was under the influence, but my god, I thought Moby was
AMAZING.  I was with a group of about 10 and we perched out not far from
the DJ stand.  Everyone in our group thought he did a really good job.
He started off pretty steady, but towards the end (the last 30 or so
minutes) he, IMHO, lit the place on fire.

One of my FAVORITE DJ tricks is to bring things down a tad, tease the
crowd a bit with some ambient undertones, and then slam them with some
deep, hard, driving beats.  You know, the stuff Moby is really good at.
And the last 30 minutes or so of his set, he delivered.  He leveled me -
while the the majority of the set could have been any GOOD (and I do mean
good, not average) DJ, the closing of his set was all Moby.

Good crowd, too (at least the people in our little area - it was friggin
packed).  Its good to see that he hasn't lost his touch with all his more
recent "rock" endeavors.

-G




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) eiw interview
Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:38:45 MET

hello everyone.
my friend told me, that he had seen some moby interview CD, dedicated to the
Everything Is Wrong album in a local radio, here in slovakia.
I'm a kind of new to this list, so i don't know, if this stuff has already
been discussed here. if not, i could try (but understand me, i'm a slovak,
8 years of lazy english study, that will be a real TRYING) to transcribe it,
or somehow to let you know what's it about. btw, i'm not sure if i will be
able to get to the radio and persuade them to lend me the cd.
if i'm obsolete now, i'm sorry for bothering you.

kohut.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) strike 2
Date: 19 Apr 1999 14:38:36 MET

Thanxalot steve. it's great that moby will be on this year's mayday,
after that marvellous act on mayday reformation (which i haven't seen
live, but i have this mayday show on video, though it is a little bit
spoiled copy, so the live performance of voodoo child (as moby acted there)
last for about 40 seconds and my heart got broken when the tape ended
just in the best of it. hope you understand me.
frankly, i'm surprised moby will be on the soundtropolis (mayday '99),
because from the recent development of low-spirit and mayday, i got an
impression they took somehow the other way. well, everythiung changes.

once more thanxalot, though i will definitely NOT be in dortmund,
because it's somehow much for my pocket to visit the mayday. but it
still is one of my dreams.

there's another thing connected to voodoo child appearance on reformation,
but it's not ready now, so i won't leak it.

btw. i wonder how you pronounce my name?



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From: "Dickerson Architecture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
Date: 19 Apr 1999 09:22:52 -0400

Hey Carmen,

The high bid is now $25.

Thanks,
Steve

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:43 AM


> I will bid $20US
>
> -Carmen Barone
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) run on czech review.
Date: 19 Apr 1999 16:40:40 MET

here's the translation of the review on RUN ON,
as it appeared in czech on www.infima.cz/pareniste.
enjoy.

kohut.



 Moby

 Moby Young & Funky mix
 Dave Clarke mix
 extended

The second single from Moby's forthcoming album Play got a name "Run On" and
if you enjoyed the previous one, "Honey", you're going to be satisfied with
this as well. At first glance, Moby seems to copy himself. The same hybrid of
hip-hop rhytm and the same piano presses. After reading this far you won't be
surprised, that the male vocal sounds barely and not-studio-like. But this
time Moby didn't have to go too far with the sampler, he simply borrowed the
whole singing from a song by The Langfordaries, called "Run On For A Long Time."
So we can say the same about Run On as about Honey.
The fans, Moby got during his most impressive dance era, will be probably
disappointed. The others will gladly let themselves hear Run On, but i can
hardly imagine them trying to obtain the older releases of him.
As we got used to, Moby cooperates on his own remixes. His breakbeat Young &
Funky mix is much faster than the original and it's more thrilling too. If
the DJs will play the single, it will be exactly this version. Dave Clark
comes with a slight surprise, he offers something unusual for him, no techno
nor house, but a slow trip hop, similar to the original. It's a pity, because
it was him, who could have supported the single with some essential energy,
eventually to attract club DJs.
I have to admit that Run On is easier to get through than Honey was,
definitely we had enough time to get used to it. Hopefully the album coming
up in may will be about something else.

summary: 6 from 10.
author : Bedla.




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tribute cd...i need help!
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:37:30 -0700 (PDT)


okay im on this list of fans devoted to the show "Sifl & Ollly", and
were putting together a tribute cd, just like we did/are doing on this
here list!
so people are squabbling and squawking about all this "Is this legal?"
crap. since we have experience with this, can someone forward me
something to forward to the list, regarding like what we did with the
moby tribute cds and what to worry about and such?

of course, Sifl & Olly are on MTV, so they get more exposure than Moby
(on TV at least) so were more likely to get into hot water than with
teh Moby cd. thats funny tho, S&O has been on the air like a year or
so, and already their list has 660 people, while Mobys been makin music
like 10 yearss or so and we only have like 200.... i guess its just who
you know...

but S&O didnt get on overnight. Liam Lynch, the shows co-creator,
reportedly phoned MTV for years trying to get the damn thing on the
air...

anyway, we're also mass-mailing socks to MTV to get the show to stay on
the air.
 go to <http://www.sockheads.com> and find it somewhere...

if anyone here has never seen S&O, it is the damn funniest show on the
air, i watch it more than the Simpsons. and if anyone here knows me,
that is a fucking endorsement. its on MTV at 7:30 PM  weekdays, except
when they pre-empt it, which is all the time. but its on Mon. Tues. and
Wed. this week, so ROCK!

does the movie "GO" have to do with the Moby song?


okay bye now! ROCK!


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>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tribute cd...i need help!
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:37:42 -0700 (PDT)


okay im on this list of fans devoted to the show "Sifl & Ollly", and
were putting together a tribute cd, just like we did/are doing on this
here list!
so people are squabbling and squawking about all this "Is this legal?"
crap. since we have experience with this, can someone forward me
something to forward to the list, regarding like what we did with the
moby tribute cds and what to worry about and such?

of course, Sifl & Olly are on MTV, so they get more exposure than Moby
(on TV at least) so were more likely to get into hot water than with
teh Moby cd. thats funny tho, S&O has been on the air like a year or
so, and already their list has 660 people, while Mobys been makin music
like 10 yearss or so and we only have like 200.... i guess its just who
you know...

but S&O didnt get on overnight. Liam Lynch, the shows co-creator,
reportedly phoned MTV for years trying to get the damn thing on the
air...

anyway, we're also mass-mailing socks to MTV to get the show to stay on
the air.
 go to <http://www.sockheads.com> and find it somewhere...

if anyone here has never seen S&O, it is the damn funniest show on the
air, i watch it more than the Simpsons. and if anyone here knows me,
that is a fucking endorsement. its on MTV at 7:30 PM  weekdays, except
when they pre-empt it, which is all the time. but its on Mon. Tues. and
Wed. this week, so ROCK!

does the movie "GO" have to do with the Moby song?


okay bye now! ROCK!


===
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>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tribute cd...i need help!
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:37:36 -0700 (PDT)


okay im on this list of fans devoted to the show "Sifl & Ollly", and
were putting together a tribute cd, just like we did/are doing on this
here list!
so people are squabbling and squawking about all this "Is this legal?"
crap. since we have experience with this, can someone forward me
something to forward to the list, regarding like what we did with the
moby tribute cds and what to worry about and such?

of course, Sifl & Olly are on MTV, so they get more exposure than Moby
(on TV at least) so were more likely to get into hot water than with
teh Moby cd. thats funny tho, S&O has been on the air like a year or
so, and already their list has 660 people, while Mobys been makin music
like 10 yearss or so and we only have like 200.... i guess its just who
you know...

but S&O didnt get on overnight. Liam Lynch, the shows co-creator,
reportedly phoned MTV for years trying to get the damn thing on the
air...

anyway, we're also mass-mailing socks to MTV to get the show to stay on
the air.
 go to <http://www.sockheads.com> and find it somewhere...

if anyone here has never seen S&O, it is the damn funniest show on the
air, i watch it more than the Simpsons. and if anyone here knows me,
that is a fucking endorsement. its on MTV at 7:30 PM  weekdays, except
when they pre-empt it, which is all the time. but its on Mon. Tues. and
Wed. this week, so ROCK!

does the movie "GO" have to do with the Moby song?


okay bye now! ROCK!


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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tribute cd...i need help!
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:37:40 -0700 (PDT)


okay im on this list of fans devoted to the show "Sifl & Ollly", and
were putting together a tribute cd, just like we did/are doing on this
here list!
so people are squabbling and squawking about all this "Is this legal?"
crap. since we have experience with this, can someone forward me
something to forward to the list, regarding like what we did with the
moby tribute cds and what to worry about and such?

of course, Sifl & Olly are on MTV, so they get more exposure than Moby
(on TV at least) so were more likely to get into hot water than with
teh Moby cd. thats funny tho, S&O has been on the air like a year or
so, and already their list has 660 people, while Mobys been makin music
like 10 yearss or so and we only have like 200.... i guess its just who
you know...

but S&O didnt get on overnight. Liam Lynch, the shows co-creator,
reportedly phoned MTV for years trying to get the damn thing on the
air...

anyway, we're also mass-mailing socks to MTV to get the show to stay on
the air.
 go to <http://www.sockheads.com> and find it somewhere...

if anyone here has never seen S&O, it is the damn funniest show on the
air, i watch it more than the Simpsons. and if anyone here knows me,
that is a fucking endorsement. its on MTV at 7:30 PM  weekdays, except
when they pre-empt it, which is all the time. but its on Mon. Tues. and
Wed. this week, so ROCK!

does the movie "GO" have to do with the Moby song?


okay bye now! ROCK!


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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) honey video online...
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:58:41 -0700 (PDT)

if you havent seen the video for "honey" and you have a realvideo
player, you can go to <http://www.amp.mtv.com> and see it now!!!

also, i taped the Moby remix of LFO's "Tan Ta Ra" and i think it is the
best Moby remix ever. what does anyone here think?  bye!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) honey video online...
Date: 19 Apr 1999 12:11:34 -0700


     What does "LFO" stand for?


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if you havent seen the video for "honey" and you have a realvideo
player, you can go to <http://www.amp.mtv.com> and see it now!!!

also, i taped the Moby remix of LFO's "Tan Ta Ra" and i think it is the
best Moby remix ever. what does anyone here think?  bye!

===
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) tribute cd...i need help!
Date: 19 Apr 1999 12:10:50 -0700


     Paul,

     I saw the movie "GO". Basically a rip-off of "PULP FICTION" but it was
     entertaining (let's call it a good rental).

     Unfortunately "GO", the movie, has nothing to do with "GO" the single
     from MOBY. They didn't even include HIS song in the movie. Which, BTW,
     would have fit in well if they had.

     - Jayson


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does the movie "GO" have to do with the Moby song?


okay bye now! ROCK!


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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby, LFO and Faithless
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:59:38 +0200

Paul Simpson wrote:
>also, i taped the Moby remix of LFO's "Tan Ta Ra" and i think it is the
>best Moby remix ever. what does anyone here think?  bye!

I haven't heard it but I like LFO and I like Moby so it should be good!
Currently I'm listening to the Voodoo Child remix of "Heart On The Line"
by Fortran 5 a lot, wow what a great remix!

I think Moby should do some remixes for Faithless. They did a great job
remixing Moby's "revolver" and "honey" so I wonder how it would sound
if Moby did a remix for them....

Bart





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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Underwater
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:25:37 +0200

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give you the address...

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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:33:38 -0700 (PDT)

Hey,

Just wanted to pop my head in and talk some shit, as
some would think of this.

YOU got this CD for FREE, if you were a real fan you
would just give it up instead of making a proft, for
just making a profit.
I have a copy and I would rather give my copy to some
one if I didnt want it. I got it for free and I know
that you also did.
It seems all wrong not only does the fan get FUCKED by
you but also Moby seems to suffer in this deal also,
unless by some off chance you were planing on sending
8% of your take on this.
I hardley doubt that.
I just did an operation with the F.B.I that is
shutting down a record store because of the owner
burning CDs which in turn burns artist.
What you are doing is WRONG!!!!!!!!
Burns dont hurt me.
Bri

--- Dickerson Architecture <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hey Carmen,
>
> The high bid is now $25.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:43 AM
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
>
>
> > I will bid $20US
> >
> > -Carmen Barone
> >
>
>
>

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From: "Dickerson Architecture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
Date: 19 Apr 1999 15:09:50 -0400

Hey Brian,

I not mad at you because you flamed me -- but you've got to pay attention.
I did NOT get it for FREE.  I mentioned I DID pay for it and WHAT I paid for
it.  I am a huge Moby fan.  In the past I've done first come, first serve --
that's not fair to a lot of people either.  So, I thought I'd sell it to
another big fan.  Either way, somebody's mad at me, so I don't think I'll be
doing it anymore.

Sorry guys,
Steve


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:33 PM


> Hey,
>
> Just wanted to pop my head in and talk some shit, as
> some would think of this.
>
> YOU got this CD for FREE, if you were a real fan you
> would just give it up instead of making a proft, for
> just making a profit.
> I have a copy and I would rather give my copy to some
> one if I didnt want it. I got it for free and I know
> that you also did.
> It seems all wrong not only does the fan get FUCKED by
> you but also Moby seems to suffer in this deal also,
> unless by some off chance you were planing on sending
> 8% of your take on this.
> I hardley doubt that.
> I just did an operation with the F.B.I that is
> shutting down a record store because of the owner
> burning CDs which in turn burns artist.
> What you are doing is WRONG!!!!!!!!
> Burns dont hurt me.
> Bri
>
> --- Dickerson Architecture <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Hey Carmen,
> >
> > The high bid is now $25.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[e-mail]>
> > To: <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
> >
> >
> > > I will bid $20US
> > >
> > > -Carmen Barone





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Play for sale
Date: 19 Apr 1999 15:49:20 -0700



     Patience is a virtue ... either way, you're paying 10-15 dollars for
     the CD when it comes out anyway. Who cares if he's selling it. No one
     has to buy it if they don't want. It's a simple case of supply &
     demand.

     I'm sure if someone wanted him to copy it for them he would do it
     minus the cost of the tape.

     - Jayson


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Hey Brian,

I not mad at you because you flamed me -- but you've got to pay attention.
I did NOT get it for FREE.  I mentioned I DID pay for it and WHAT I paid for
it.  I am a huge Moby fan.  In the past I've done first come, first serve --
that's not fair to a lot of people either.  So, I thought I'd sell it to
another big fan.  Either way, somebody's mad at me, so I don't think I'll be
doing it anymore.

Sorry guys,
Steve


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:33 PM


> Hey,
>
> Just wanted to pop my head in and talk some shit, as
> some would think of this.
>
> YOU got this CD for FREE, if you were a real fan you
> would just give it up instead of making a proft, for
> just making a profit.
> I have a copy and I would rather give my copy to some
> one if I didnt want it. I got it for free and I know
> that you also did.
> It seems all wrong not only does the fan get FUCKED by
> you but also Moby seems to suffer in this deal also,
> unless by some off chance you were planing on sending
> 8% of your take on this.
> I hardley doubt that.
> I just did an operation with the F.B.I that is
> shutting down a record store because of the owner
> burning CDs which in turn burns artist.
> What you are doing is WRONG!!!!!!!!
> Burns dont hurt me.
> Bri
>
> --- Dickerson Architecture <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Hey Carmen,
> >
> > The high bid is now $25.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[e-mail]>
> > To: <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 2:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: (mobility) Play for sale
> >
> >
> > > I will bid $20US
> > >
> > > -Carmen Barone






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) honey video online...
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:15:52 EDT

In a message dated 99-04-19 11:59:26 EDT, you write:

<< if you havent seen the video for "honey" and you have a realvideo
 player, you can go to <http://www.amp.mtv.com> and see it now!!!
  >>

I think I was probably one of the more lucky ones,
I happened to be at a friend's house watching M2
when they debuted the video like, two months ago. I thought
the video was really wierd, and the song was awesome.

So many Mobys...so little time :)
*Kristin*




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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Electronic Pulse is online....
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:47:57 -0500

Hi all,

We finally got the streaming on line for Electronic Pulse.  Please stop on
by and talk a listen.

http://www.electronicpulse.com

Also, if you want to add a link to the site, please feel free to e-mail.

Cheers!
Brian
--
http://www.electronicpulse.com

Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
--





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From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Electronic Pulse is online....
Date: 20 Apr 1999 02:20:10 -0700

I tried to listen to your stream but I don't even
know what a .asx file is, and my browser didn't either...
It doesn't say anywhere on your front page or about page
as to what kind of audio is being streamed, I'd like to
try it out! You have the same artist of the month as I
have chosen for Radio Free Underground so I know you must
have similar tastes. In fact I will be going to see
Underworld next week here in San Francisco.

I've heard several new Moby songs on the local commercial
radio station's electonic music show, all great- a bit more
hip hop flavored than usual, but not too much that it
doesn't still sound like Moby.

Many of you know me, but I've been very quiet lately-
however I'd like to hear from those of you who were
part of ftp v1.1 because ftp is active again but not for
long, I'd like to get in touch with anyone that has
live recordings of Moby.
paul


Electronic Pulse Info wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We finally got the streaming on line for Electronic Pulse.  Please stop on
> by and talk a listen.
>
> http://www.electronicpulse.com
>
> Also, if you want to add a link to the site, please feel free to e-mail.
>
> Cheers!
> Brian
> --
> http://www.electronicpulse.com
>
> Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
> --



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From: "tommy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hymn/i killed the tadpole
Date: 20 Apr 1999 07:25:33 -0500

good morning maybe,
so i have actually been working on songs and stuff for the thanks II comp if
it's still in the works.  some of you might remember that i said i was going
to do hymn.  and just maybe some of you remember STeveG saying something
like he heard a home brewn version of the drug fits the face a while back.

so i have two things for you to look at if you feel.

i did a version of hymn based off of moby live@the splash.  guitar.
i added strings, and a beat.
maybe i'll end up redoing the guitars because i think the solo could be done
a little better.  it aint bad IMO.  i probably will rework it.
it is 'finished'.
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/gu-hymn.mp3
2:26min,  112kbit (it sounds good)

http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/tdftf-0De.mp3
the drug fits the face (0De mix)
2:06min,  160kbit
this is the first song i started to work hard on for T2.  it's about half
done maybe.  if more then a couple of you think that i should keep working
on this, chances are that i will finish it.  actually i've got a second
piece to it you can't hear because i made this mp3 before my latest work has
been done to the track.  so it is probably around maybe 3-3:30min on my HD.
i just sort of am wondering what some others think about it.

if any of you do listen to this and wonder...
i have been playing guitar for maybe 3 years now and making music ever since
i got this computer half a year or so ago.  wow.  maybe it's been a year.
somewhere between the two.

you can download the mp3's from a descriptive
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/hymn.htm
if the urls arent links on this mail.

thanks?
tommy



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) hymn/i killed the tadpole
Date: 20 Apr 1999 08:25:45 -0500 (CDT)

Tommy, I can't get those mp3s to download.  Do you have links for them
somewhere?  I can't just download them by using that address.  Thanks.

andy



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) honey video online...
Date: 20 Apr 1999 11:35:38 PDT

LFO stands for "Low Frequency Oscillations." They were so named
because they attempted to have the deepest subbass in all the land--
and at the time, they did.

Matos

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) bond, underworld
Date: 20 Apr 1999 16:37:38 EDT

hey everyone. i bought the james bond reversion promo cd yesterday. it has
the song and then a short bio with moby talking about i like to score, and
escpecially bond. i also bought the new underworld cd, which i think has the
makings to be one my favorite cds. i know this is a moby list, but i think
that underworlds choice to include moaner on this cd was great, seeing as it
is one of their greatest songs, imo. oh, and i also saw the TWIRFMR promo,
with just that sonf gon it, and i think its on sale for 1.99 US, so if anyone
wants it, email me.
thats all
andrew



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From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) introduction
Date: 21 Apr 1999 00:10:38 +0300 (EET DST)


this is my homework as a novise...
first: this is also the first time i've subscribed to any mailinglist, so
please be patient if i'll make mistakes.=20
my name is Heidi, i live in helsinki, finland. in europe, that is.

and now i hope i can amaze you a little : i heard about moby 3 weeks ago,
when i bought 'animal rights' just because beautiful cover and name.=20
yes - i don't have no tv nor radio, so i'm totally out of what is
happening.=20

i'm 32 old and i've been addicted to music all my life, but moby seems to
be a little more dangerous than others, these 3 weeks i've been listening
his music all the time. oh, i tried radiohead yesterday, but i had to quit
after karmapolice. sorry guys. what made me interested about moby, was
that the way i paint and pictures that came changed after i found his
music. so there is something i don't want to analyze to death. let it be
pure pleasure.=20

of course i don't have collection, i'm not collector anyway. i have
livetape from finnish festival 1997, i think. not good quality, though. it
came from radio, but friend of mine didn't record it properly. i don't
even have all the albums.=20

what else? i've been working 10 years before started artstudies, another
artist i want to mention after moby is marcel duchamp, i'm all vegetarian,
mostly vegan, animalrightsactivist, anarchist and above all smart-arse.

heidi
=09=09=09look around.
     .....................................................
      "V=E4kijoukko oli niin tiukkaan sulloutunut, etteiv=E4t
       kuolleet ja haavoittuneet mahtuneet kaatumaan."=20
            =20
            (Ursula le Guin:Osattomien planeetta)





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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Go (was Re: (mobility) tribute cd...i need help!)
Date: 20 Apr 1999 20:39:11 -0700


>      Paul,
>
>      I saw the movie "GO". Basically a rip-off of "PULP FICTION" but it
was
>      entertaining (let's call it a good rental).
>
>      Unfortunately "GO", the movie, has nothing to do with "GO" the
single
>      from MOBY. They didn't even include HIS song in the movie. Which,
BTW,
>      would have fit in well if they had.
>
>      - Jayson

i saw Go on the weekend... man... it was so contrived! what a waste of $10!
 i'm glad moby's stuff wasn't anywhere to be found in the movie... it would
have been a waste of good music! plus the fatboy slim stuff fit fine.  i
just wish the new no doubt song wasn't in it... i've had it stuck in my
head ever since. blah!!!

-kelly



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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #371
Date: 20 Apr 1999 23:21:15 PDT

>From: [e-mail]
>
>
>     What does "LFO" stand for?
>

In synthesizer terms LFO = Low Frequency Oscillator

but, as far as the band LFO, I don't know if it stands for something
else or not.

oh well,

--a

np:  The Jesus Lizard "Liar"

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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction
Date: 21 Apr 1999 11:50:18 +0100 (British Summer Time)

Hello Heidi,

It's nice to have an anarcho-veggie on the list. I am also=20
veggie and sympathise with the anarchist philosophy, but I=20
wouldn't say I actually am an anarchist at all.

I'm not a huge collector of music, partly because I haven't=20
the time or money these days. Still, I'd like to have more=20
time and money to indulge in music, etc.

And yes I love Animal Rights AND I like a lot of Radiohead=20
stuff, amongst many other musical styles.

I'm sure I've heard of Marcel Duchamp before? However=20
please explain to me, if possible, what the music is like=20
and the general background of this artist. You can e-mail=20
me privately about this, if you want.

TMB

On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:10:38 +0300 (EET DST) Heidi Gronman=20
<[e-mail]> wrote:


> and now i hope i can amaze you a little : i heard about moby 3 weeks ago,
> when i bought 'animal rights' just because beautiful cover and name.=20
> yes - i don't have no tv nor radio, so i'm totally out of what is
> happening.=20
>=20
> i'm 32 old and i've been addicted to music all my life, but moby seems to
> be a little more dangerous than others, these 3 weeks i've been listening
> his music all the time. oh, i tried radiohead yesterday, but i had to qui=
t
> after karmapolice. sorry guys. what made me interested about moby, was
> that the way i paint and pictures that came changed after i found his
> music. so there is something i don't want to analyze to death. let it be
> pure pleasure.=20
>=20
> of course i don't have collection, i'm not collector anyway. i have
> livetape from finnish festival 1997, i think. not good quality, though. i=
t
> came from radio, but friend of mine didn't record it properly. i don't
> even have all the albums.=20
>=20
> what else? i've been working 10 years before started artstudies, another
> artist i want to mention after moby is marcel duchamp, i'm all vegetarian=
,
> mostly vegan, animalrightsactivist, anarchist and above all smart-arse.
>=20
> heidi
> =09=09=09look around.
>      .....................................................
>       "V=E4kijoukko oli niin tiukkaan sulloutunut, etteiv=E4t
>        kuolleet ja haavoittuneet mahtuneet kaatumaan."=20
>             =20
>             (Ursula le Guin:Osattomien planeetta)
>=20
>=20
>=20

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: DON'T "Go" see the movie
Date: 21 Apr 1999 10:24:45 -0700


     Kelly,

     Where in the world are you watching a movie for 10 bucks? Yeah, after
     thinking about it for a second, I realized that I put "Go" right out
     of my mind. What was it about again???  ;-)


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i saw Go on the weekend... man... it was so contrived! what a waste of $10!
 i'm glad moby's stuff wasn't anywhere to be found in the movie... it would
have been a waste of good music! plus the fatboy slim stuff fit fine.  i
just wish the new no doubt song wasn't in it... i've had it stuck in my
head ever since. blah!!!

-kelly




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction
Date: 21 Apr 1999 10:21:06 -0700

     =

     Heidi,
     =

     That's some funny Sh*t. Welcome!
     =

     Boy, what's funny is that you have no TV and all that, but you have =

     access to the internet/email. Life is funny!
     =

     - Jayson G. Magnus


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     =

this is my homework as a novise...
first: this is also the first time i've subscribed to any mailinglist, so=
 =

please be patient if i'll make mistakes. =

my name is Heidi, i live in helsinki, finland. in europe, that is.
     =

and now i hope i can amaze you a little : i heard about moby 3 weeks ago,=
 =

when i bought 'animal rights' just because beautiful cover and name. =

yes - i don't have no tv nor radio, so i'm totally out of what is =

happening. =

     =

i'm 32 old and i've been addicted to music all my life, but moby seems to=
 =

be a little more dangerous than others, these 3 weeks i've been listening=
 =

his music all the time. oh, i tried radiohead yesterday, but i had to qui=
t =

after karmapolice. sorry guys. what made me interested about moby, was =

that the way i paint and pictures that came changed after i found his =

music. so there is something i don't want to analyze to death. let it be =

pure pleasure. =

     =

of course i don't have collection, i'm not collector anyway. i have =

livetape from finnish festival 1997, i think. not good quality, though. i=
t =

came from radio, but friend of mine didn't record it properly. i don't =

even have all the albums. =

     =

what else? i've been working 10 years before started artstudies, another =

artist i want to mention after moby is marcel duchamp, i'm all vegetarian=
, =

mostly vegan, animalrightsactivist, anarchist and above all smart-arse.
     =

heidi
            look around.
     .....................................................
      "V=E4kijoukko oli niin tiukkaan sulloutunut, etteiv=E4t
       kuolleet ja haavoittuneet mahtuneet kaatumaan." =

     =

            (Ursula le Guin:Osattomien planeetta)
     =

     =

     =





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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: DON'T "Go" see the movie
Date: 23 Apr 1999 00:59:36 +0900

She is watching movies in Canada where, even though they are called dollars,
they are more like 75 cents or something. So same as America. But, please do
visit Japan someday. I just saw the new release - The Thin Red Line (did I
mention it sucks) and it cost only 15 dollars. And that is just for the
ticket.But anyway, I heard that BT was doing the sountrack for GO,  but I
could be wrong.

Also, two questions about double CDs. How can I tell the diference between the
regular and 2CD version of Moby - EIW and Orb - OFORB? I have the 1CD of both,
but would like to know if there is anyway of telling about the 2CD without
opening it? Thanks. Later.
AJ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) (no subject)
Date: 21 Apr 1999 13:29:34 EDT

Chris Shepherd
age 25
collection-everything is wrong, animal rights, voodoo child with an ocean on
the cover
first time-about four years ago-everything is wrong -it was a musical epiphany
moby is in my top ten favorite artists of all time
other artists-john coltrane, brian eno, beatles, salvador dali, sonic youth,
velvet underground, thelonius monk, yes, piet mondrian............
other info-i record music-if anyone wants a cd-email me and i will mail you
one
peace



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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 2CD of EIW
Date: 21 Apr 1999 20:04:19 +0200


AJ Brustein wrote:
>Also, two questions about double CDs. How can I tell the diference between
the
>regular and 2CD version of Moby - EIW and Orb - OFORB? I have the 1CD of
both,
>but would like to know if there is anyway of telling about the 2CD without
>opening it? Thanks. Later.
>AJ


Unlike most Mobility members I'm not a big Orb or Underworld fan so I don't
know about the Orb cd.... The 2 CD of EIW has the catalog# LCDStumm130
Instead of CDStumm130 on the regular version. On my CD the catalog# is
written on the front (sticker), on the back and on both sides of the CD
inlay.
(I don't know if this is the right word...I mean the piece of paper that you
see
on the back and the sides of the cd, where (on the back) the tracks are
written)
You can't miss...

The sticker on the front of my 2CD is black and round and says:
-- Includes Special Bonus CD "Underwater" (43.11 mins)   LCDSTUMM130 --
I don't know if the sticker is on all 2CD releases...

If you are ordering from the internet the 2CD is often called:
"Eveything Is Wrong (ltd)"

Most of the time in the "format" column there is "2CD"

Otherwise look for anything with LCDStumm130 in it. Some stores/sites
have their own way of labeling CDs. For example, if a CD is labeled
"LSt130"
and is called "Everything Is Wrong", I would buy it, 'cause I'm quite sure
it is the
limited 2CD.....

Bart




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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) (no subject)
Date: 21 Apr 1999 20:16:59 +0200

Hello Chris, welcome to the list!

You wrote:
>other artists-john coltrane, brian eno, beatles, salvador dali, sonic
youth,
>velvet underground, thelonius monk, yes, piet mondrian............


Did you know that Moby did *7* GREAT remixes for Brian Eno's (12 track)
Fractal Zoom single?

bye,

Bart




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) (no subject)
Date: 21 Apr 1999 14:26:09 EDT

hello bart-thanks for the welcome -i will have to look into that -0-    i
would be very curious to hear that



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Re: DON'T "Go" see the movie
Date: 21 Apr 1999 15:23:36 -0700



     it weighs more ...  ;-)

     also, you can kind of see the other CD if you look side-ways through
     the back. I think that's how I found the 2CD of AR.

     - Jayson


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She is watching movies in Canada where, even though they are called dollars,
they are more like 75 cents or something. So same as America. But, please do
visit Japan someday. I just saw the new release - The Thin Red Line (did I
mention it sucks) and it cost only 15 dollars. And that is just for the
ticket.But anyway, I heard that BT was doing the sountrack for GO,  but I
could be wrong.

Also, two questions about double CDs. How can I tell the diference between the
regular and 2CD version of Moby - EIW and Orb - OFORB? I have the 1CD of both,
but would like to know if there is anyway of telling about the 2CD without
opening it? Thanks. Later.
AJ




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility)  (no subject)
Date: 21 Apr 1999 15:37:30 -0700


     Bart,

     He did? Are they on the Eno CD or on singles or something?

     - Jayson


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Hello Chris, welcome to the list!

You wrote:
>other artists-john coltrane, brian eno, beatles, salvador dali, sonic
youth,
>velvet underground, thelonius monk, yes, piet mondrian............


Did you know that Moby did *7* GREAT remixes for Brian Eno's (12 track)
Fractal Zoom single?

bye,

Bart





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)  (no subject)
Date: 21 Apr 1999 15:34:40 -0700


     Hey Chris,

     For some reason I never get people's email addresses when they mail to
     the list. What is your email address?

     - Jayson


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Chris Shepherd
age 25
collection-everything is wrong, animal rights, voodoo child with an ocean on
the cover
first time-about four years ago-everything is wrong -it was a musical epiphany
moby is in my top ten favorite artists of all time
other artists-john coltrane, brian eno, beatles, salvador dali, sonic youth,
velvet underground, thelonius monk, yes, piet mondrian............
other info-i record music-if anyone wants a cd-email me and i will mail you
one
peace




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)  (no subject)
Date: 21 Apr 1999 16:01:42 EDT

to all those interested-my email is [e-mail]



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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: DON'T "Go" see the movie
Date: 21 Apr 1999 17:28:03 -0700

I'm in Canada, eh...
and i saw it at one of those mega-theaters...
so the ticket was actually $9.50, which is pretty much 10 bucks.

don't even get me started on CDs...
the cost of good music here in ontario is INSANE!  blah!
its not unusual to see moby stuff going for $22 or even more! ick ick ick.

well, that was my lame attempt at keeping it on topic.

-kelly



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From: "Daniel Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) when my moby come back
Date: 21 Apr 1999 14:49:50 PDT

well,

i just watched the 'honey' video online...

i gotta say i was kinda disappointed. i mean it's cool cuz it's MOBY,
and it's fun watching the three Richard Halls chasing after each other.

but the video doesn't really seem to have a direction. it just sort of
goes on until the song is over. and i have to say that when i hear the
song, the images in my head are nothing like the images in the video.

OVERALL: 2 out of 4. Cool cuz it's Moby, otherwise lukewarm. Comes
nowhere NEAR the awesome-ness of the HYMN video.

dan


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: DON'T "Go" see the movie
Date: 21 Apr 1999 18:10:18 EDT

In a message dated 99-04-21 10:47:00 EDT, you write:

<< i saw Go on the weekend... man... it was so contrived! what a waste of $10!
  i'm glad moby's stuff wasn't anywhere to be found in the movie... it would
 have been a waste of good music! plus the fatboy slim stuff fit fine.  i
 just wish the new no doubt song wasn't in it... i've had it stuck in my
 head ever since. blah!!! >>

I must admit, the whole movie sucked. Nice casting job, with
the exception of the chick from Dawson's Creek who just ruined
it b/c she can't act for the world.

And the No Doubt song is kinda catchy..
*Kristin*



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) double CDs / Run On
Date: 21 Apr 1999 16:40:22 -0600

AJ Brustein wrote:
> Also, two questions about double CDs. How can I tell the diference between
> the regular and 2CD version of Moby - EIW and Orb - OFORB? I have the 1CD
> of both, but would like to know if there is anyway of telling about the
> 2CD without opening it?

My copy of the 2CD EIW has a sticker on it that says:

     LCDSTUMM130
      Includes
       Special
      Bonus CD
    "Underwater"
    (43.11 mins)

Also, the black part of the CD tray that hinges on the left side of the
case clearly says "2 CD" (in the upper left corner of the front/top of
the case).

The Orb 2CD is even easier to pick out.  Besides costing an arm and a
leg, you can distinguish it because it shows track lists for both discs
on the back/bottom of the CD case.  The cover photo is also a slightly
different color from the 1CD version.  If I remember correctly (I only
own the 2CD version), the 2CD version is greener.

These limited edition 2CD albums are great, BTW.

Oh, and just a reminder...  "Run On" will be released on Monday.  If
you can get it at a reasonable price, I recommend you do.  The B-sides
are quite good on this one, and they won't be available on the US
_Honey/Run On_ maxi-CD that's coming out May 11.

The 30-second sound clip of "Run On" will be no longer be available
on moby.org after the single is released, so grab it while you can.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Underworld, "Push Upstairs (The Full Length Of It Mix)"



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) not on go
Date: 21 Apr 1999 17:48:27 -0500 (CDT)

moby's isn't on the "go" soundtrack. at least not on the one i have!
the bt song is good, but he's done better. (ie; godspeed.)

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
            but i really enjoy thinking."
              Masafumi Sanai-photographer





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From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) when my moby come back
Date: 21 Apr 1999 20:38:16 -0500

I was disappointed with the "Honey" video as well.  I didn't think there
was really any point, or clear story, or anything to really enhance the
song.  Some of the "effects" have been done so many times in videos before
that it seemed very cliched or overdone to me.  I really hoped for
something better.  Yeah, the "Hymn" video is definitely much better.

I got to hear the tracks from the "Run On" single and was pretty surprised
at the similarities to the "Honey" single.  "Run On" and "Honey" have
similarities through the sampling and the funk/pop feel to them.  Then the
other two tracks on the single are much more mellow, more on the ambient
side.  Personally, I think "Honey" is just OK, and "Run On" doesn't impress
me a whole lot, although I do like it.  But I absolutely love the
additional tracks on the singles.  "Memory Gospel" and "Spirit" are
probably my favorites.

Anyway, my $0.02 since I haven't really spoken up in a while.

Hello to all the new people that have joined over the past couple of weeks.
 I'm glad to hear you here.

Adios.

--Ade.



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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fractal Zoom/(no subject)
Date: 22 Apr 1999 13:14:39 +0200

Jayson Magnus wrote

>     He did? Are they on the Eno CD or on singles or something?


They're on the Fractal Zoom *single*:
US CD, Opal/Warner Bros, 9 40539-2

Be sure to get the US CD version, because the 12" has only 4 Moby mixes.
But the US 12" has a Moby mix that's not on the CD(!):

2:11  Fractal Zoom (A Cappella)

I reviewed the Fractal Zoom single in the review contest a couple of weeks
ago. If you (and Chris Shepherd?) want a copy of it, mail me privately and
I'll send it to you. Or you can look in the Mobility Archives on
www.moby.org

Bart

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tip of the day:
Moby - Next is the E (T.H.K. Tekk Mix)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Re: DON'T "Go" see the movie
Date: 22 Apr 1999 10:05:14 -0700


     Kelly,

     why don't you just buy MOBY stuff over the internet and have them ship
     it to you? BUY.COM, AMAZON.COM or CDNOW, musicBLVD

     do they ship to Canada?

     Heck, I'll even buy the CDs for you and mail em to you. I've got
     nothing better to do.

     - Jayson



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I'm in Canada, eh...
and i saw it at one of those mega-theaters...
so the ticket was actually $9.50, which is pretty much 10 bucks.

don't even get me started on CDs...
the cost of good music here in ontario is INSANE!  blah!
its not unusual to see moby stuff going for $22 or even more! ick ick ick.

well, that was my lame attempt at keeping it on topic.

-kelly




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) when my moby come back
Date: 22 Apr 1999 10:22:12 -0700


     I'm with you on this one Ade. Honey is okay (one Remix is good, I
     forget which one, Westbam perhaps or something) but MEMORY GOSPEL &
     SPIRIT kick butt. Of course they are not techno, but I love Moby's
     ambient stuff like those two songs.

     TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:

     1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!

     2. In the intro to "Feeling So Real" off of EIW, what the heck does
     the sample Moby uses SAY?? I could never figurte that out. I know at
     the end of the intro it says, "Set it up DJ!" but what the heck does
     he say before that?? "Some system rock them!" nope that's not it. WHAT
     does he say! It's driving me crazy! ARRRRrrrrrgh!


     thanks for the help!
     - Jayson


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de.  Personally, I think "Honey" is just OK, and "Run On" doesn't impress
me a whole lot, although I do like it.  But I absolutely love the
additional tracks on the singles.  "Memory Gospel" and "Spirit" are
probably my favorites.

Anyway, my $0.02 since I haven't really spoken up in a while.

Hello to all the new people that have joined over the past couple of weeks.
 I'm glad to hear you here.

Adios.

--Ade.




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) when my moby come back
Date: 22 Apr 1999 08:49:11 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>      TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:
>
>      1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!

I think it's pretty good.

>      2. In the intro to "Feeling So Real" off of EIW, what the heck does
>      the sample Moby uses SAY?? I could never figurte that out. I know at
>      the end of the intro it says, "Set it up DJ!" but what the heck does
>      he say before that?? "Some system rock them!" nope that's not it. WHAT
>      does he say! It's driving me crazy! ARRRRrrrrrgh!

To my ears, it sounds like "sound system rockin' massive!"

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Orbital, "I Don't Know You People"



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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 08:03:52 PDT

JM wrote:

>TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:
>1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!

It's a jokey, tongue in cheek type deal. I think it's horrible too,
but that's intentional. (how can anyone take this song seriously?)

>2. In the intro to "Feeling So Real" off of EIW, what the heck does
>     the sample Moby uses SAY??

I heard originally "Set'm n'off t'Egypt", which I know to be grossly
incorrect. I don't know what that one actually is offhand. The other
is "Sound system rockin' massive" (I could do better if I had it with
me to listen to it)

The Everytime you Touch Me samples of Kochie Banton are crazy, too.
"Let's be free", "wonderful things happen now", "Everybody in
the...???... ???... rock ???... your soul...???"

Welcome to all the recently joined members!

-Steve

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 17:32:12 +0200

>JM wrote:
>
>>TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:
>>1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!


Then Steve Giles wrote:
>It's a jokey, tongue in cheek type deal. I think it's horrible too,
>but that's intentional. (how can anyone take this song seriously?)

Hmm, I took it seriously, like New Dawn Fades.
I like the song, even though I'm not a death metal fan...
What is so horrible about it? The screaming, distorted guitars, noizze?
All of the Animal Rights punk rock songs have that!

If there is a song Moby made that should not be taken seriously it would
be Thousand....

Bart









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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 17:32:05 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Now Moby's New Dawn Fades has to be one of THE best Joy
Division covers, but I wouldn't classify it as 'death
metal'- alternative/indie/post-punk maybe. Sorry just had
to butt in there and play with semantics.

Well, if 'Whip it' sounds anything like the stuff off AR
then I'd like to hear it some day.

TMB

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:32:12 +0200 Van Eijck <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> >JM wrote:
> >
> >>TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:
> >>1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!
>
>
> Then Steve Giles wrote:
> >It's a jokey, tongue in cheek type deal. I think it's horrible too,
> >but that's intentional. (how can anyone take this song seriously?)
>
> Hmm, I took it seriously, like New Dawn Fades.
> I like the song, even though I'm not a death metal fan...
> What is so horrible about it? The screaming, distorted guitars, noizze?
> All of the Animal Rights punk rock songs have that!
>
> If there is a song Moby made that should not be taken seriously it would
> be Thousand....
>
> Bart
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 09:37:51 PDT


JM wrote:
>>>TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:
>>>1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!

Then I wrote:
>>It's a jokey, tongue in cheek type deal. I think it's horrible too,
>>but that's intentional. (how can anyone take this song seriously?)

Bart replied:
>Hmm, I took it seriously, like New Dawn Fades.
>I like the song, even though I'm not a death metal fan...
>What is so horrible about it? The screaming, distorted guitars,
>noizze?
>All of the Animal Rights punk rock songs have that!
>If there is a song Moby made that should not be taken seriously it
would
>be Thousand....

The original "Whip It" by Devo is a goofy, wacky, bizarre, playful,
upbeat, and most of all, zany. It feels like a parody of something
that doesn't exist. The idea of making it into a death metal song is
even more absurd than the song is in the first place. In Moby's
version, you hear grind-screaming "Whip It, into shape, go forward,
move ahead" with as much anger & pain as Moby can summon. But the song
isn't serious, it's just plain wacko goofy. So to hear Moby sound so
serious and pissed (death metal) is funny because of the context the
original gives it. Imagine a slower death metal version of Hanson's
MMMBop. I'm not saying the original "Whip It" is like MMMBop, but the
idea of covering it death metal style is just as unusual and crazy.
That's why it's a joke to me.

So it's not that I don't take the lofi punk Moby sound seriously, it's
that I don't take Devo seriously. Anybody who does needs to find a new
hobby. :)

Speaking of "New Dawn Fades", I just got a clear 7" w/ that and "Whip
It (Death Metal Version)" on it. The thing is more plastic than vinyl,
it's thick and tough and can obviously stand a hell of a beating. It
says on the sleeve "will not play if excessively scratched". In the
inside ring, one side actually has 'Thanks To Jesus Christ" engraved
along w/ the catalog number, and the other has 'Stop Eating Animal
Products'. You have to look closely to see it.

Well, there goes more time than I have to spend on leisure activities.

-Steve


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 12:24:04 -0700



     OOOoohhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
     OOOoohhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
     OOOoohhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

     OKay, enough of THOUSAND. I like that one. Isn't that weird?? I hate
     the Whip-It, but I like Thousand ...

     The WHIP-IT version is SO SLOW and GRINDING. Maybe I just haven't
     listened to it enough. I listened to it once when I bought the "Come
     On Baby" single and that was it. I'll pull it out when I get home (Uh,
     that didn't come out right, but you know what I mean).

     I like all the songs on AR except one ... I forget which because I
     always skip the song. I think it's the 4th or 5th and it's pretty long
     and WEIRD.

     BTW - Who really likes the song "My Love Will Never Die" off of the
     import/2cd or AR? I think it rocks.

     - JM


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>JM wrote:
>
>>TWO QUESTIONS for TODAY:
>>1. What's up with that "Whip-It" version Moby does. It stinks!


Then Steve Giles wrote:
>It's a jokey, tongue in cheek type deal. I think it's horrible too,
>but that's intentional. (how can anyone take this song seriously?)

Hmm, I took it seriously, like New Dawn Fades.
I like the song, even though I'm not a death metal fan...
What is so horrible about it? The screaming, distorted guitars, noizze?
All of the Animal Rights punk rock songs have that!

If there is a song Moby made that should not be taken seriously it would
be Thousand....

Bart










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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) My love will never die........
Date: 22 Apr 1999 19:20:23 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)


On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:24:04 -0700 [e-mail] wrote:

>
>

>
>      BTW - Who really likes the song "My Love Will Never Die" off of the
>      import/2cd or AR? I think it rocks.
>
>      - JM

Me, but I would.

Now I definitely have to hear 'Whip it'. Moby doing 'death
metal' - sounds interesting (let's see how many times we
can type death metal). I'm getting images of Napalm Death,
Paradise Lost, Slayer and such like....weird.

TMB
>
>

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: My love will../Thousand
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:54:46 +0200

Jayson Magnus wrote:
>     OOOoohhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
>     OOOoohhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
>     OOOoohhhhhhh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!


Did you know that there was actually a compilation 2CD in the Netherlands
(and I think Germany) that had Thousand on it?
The CD is called Thunderdome III.
It used to be a quite popular CD series because they made (I think) about
23 volumes (all 2CD! except for the Dutch volume 1)


>     I like all the songs on AR except one ... I forget which because I
>     always skip the song. I think it's the 4th or 5th and it's pretty long
>     and WEIRD.


Hmm, that must be the song "Soft"... I don't like it very much either.
It starts with a pretty cool piece of guitar, but the rest is like you said
WEIRD...

> BTW - Who really likes the song "My Love Will Never Die" off of the
> import/2cd or AR? I think it rocks.

I like it too! I thought this song was on all AR releases, but I looked it
up
and indeed, it's only on the "import" (which is the "normal" version for me
because I live in Europe...)  It is one of my favourite AR tracks!
It is strange they didn't include it on the US release...

bye

Bart





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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Dawn Fades/Whip It
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:54:58 +0200

Steve Giles said about "Whip It" covered by Moby:

>Imagine a slower death metal version of Hanson's
>MMMBop. I'm not saying the original "Whip It" is like MMMBop, but the
>idea of covering it death metal style is just as unusual and crazy.
>That's why it's a joke to me.
>
>So it's not that I don't take the lofi punk Moby sound seriously, it's
>that I don't take Devo seriously. Anybody who does needs to find a new
>hobby. :)


Ooooohhh, I didn't know the original... so you're probably right Steve.
If you don't know the original it's quite a sincere heavy hearted song...

Tim Beecher wrote:
>Now Moby's New Dawn Fades has to be one of THE best Joy
>Division covers, but I wouldn't classify it as 'death
>metal'- alternative/indie/post-punk maybe. Sorry just had
>to butt in there and play with semantics.

I didn't say New Dawn Fades is death metal, did I?... I said this:
>Hmm, I took it seriously, like New Dawn Fades.
>I like the song, even though I'm not a death metal fan...

By "the song" I didn't mean New Dawn Fades, but Whip It!
And I have to agree with your description of New Dawn Fades
as being "alternative/indie/post-punk" kinda music....

Steve wrote:
>Speaking of "New Dawn Fades", I just got a clear 7" w/ that and "Whip
>It (Death Metal Version)" on it. The thing is more plastic than vinyl,
>it's thick and tough and can obviously stand a hell of a beating. It
>says on the sleeve "will not play if excessively scratched". In the
>inside ring, one side actually has 'Thanks To Jesus Christ" engraved
>along w/ the catalog number, and the other has 'Stop Eating Animal
>Products'. You have to look closely to see it.


Could you give me the catalog# and the label on which it's been released
some time when you're not so busy Steve?  THANKS

Bart




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Dawn Fades/Whip It
Date: 22 Apr 1999 12:51:06 PDT

Bart wrote:
>Could you give me the catalog# and the label on which it's been
released
>some time when you're not so busy Steve?  THANKS

Bart, thanks for inadvertantly catching my error - I just got both of
these and I confused them mentally. The clear one has "ATINITBL (HOS"
on side B, not "Whip It". The revolver 7" comes in a cool picture
sleeve with a cartoon demon head drawn by moby breathing fire. I say
'drawn by Moby' because it's the same style as the ninja, the idiot,
and the spaceman, not because I know for sure.

ALL THAT I NEED IS TO BE LOVED  [1994]
US clear 7", Elektra/SOL(Singles Only Label), SOL-457 TK 947078

 1  2:45  All That I Need Is To Be Loved (House Of Suffering Mix)
 2  5:30  New Dawn Fades

THAT'S WHEN I REACH FOR MY REVOLVER  [21 Jan 1997]
US 7", Sub Pop Records, SP 377

 A  3:56  That's When I Reach For My Revolver (Album Version)
 B  4:20  Whip It (Death Metal Version)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) when my moby come back
Date: 22 Apr 1999 17:30:12 EDT

In a message dated 4/22/99 9:41:25 AM Central Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<<   2. In the intro to "Feeling So Real" off of EIW, what the heck does
      the sample Moby uses SAY?? I could never figurte that out. I know at
      the end of the intro it says, "Set it up DJ!" but what the heck does
      he say before that?? "Some system rock them!" nope that's not it. WHAT
      does he say! It's driving me crazy! ARRRRrrrrrgh! >>
i'll take a stab and say "sound system rocking", but i personally cannot say
that it is correct.
andrew



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) when my moby come back
Date: 22 Apr 1999 15:44:41 PDT

1. He liked the song. He likes death metal. He decided to combine the
two.

2. "Sound system rocking massive! Set it up DJ!"

Matos

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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 15:49:56 PDT

It feels like a parody of something
>that doesn't exist. The idea of making it into a death metal song is
>even more absurd than the song is in the first place.

Whaaaaa?!!! Steve--ever heard of, you know, FUNK?! That's totally what
"Whip It" was--Devo doing their version of a funk song. (And don't
think the folks who it was tributing/sending up didn't respond--Bootsy
Collins and George Clinton both professed their love for it, and
Prince was certainly influenced by it.) In fact, "Whip It" was (along
with "Blue Monday" and "Cars" by Gary Numan) one of the first
important new-wave/funk crossover hits, and influenced the early
Detroit techno guys (Atkins, May, Saunderson), who in turn influenced
Moby.

Matos

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 16:58:34 PDT

Matos wrote:

>Whaaaaa?!!! Steve--ever heard of, you know, FUNK?! That's totally
what
>"Whip It" was--Devo doing their version of a funk song.

(shakes off the patronizing) I think you read me wrong. Allow me to
clarify. Musical content aside, the lyrics are undeniably goofy. Once
you see the video, it comes across as even goofier. To me, it sounds
like they are parodying an attitude with the lyrics. (not a sound!)
When he sings the imperative "You must whip it..." I imagine some
authority figure telling me (with a tone of grave importance) that I
must follow some rule.

I mean, how do you answer that with matched seriousness?

"Yes sir, I will whip it sir, right away!"

Hence the parody of authority interpretation.

It's the bizarre juxtaposing of the bouncy, fun song and the almost
seriously conveyed yet sugar-high lyrics that make me like it.

Thanks for the informative musical family tree branch.

-S



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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 1000
Date: 22 Apr 1999 18:56:08 PDT

>If there is a song Moby made that should not be taken seriously it
would
>be Thousand....
>
>Bart

I used to agree w/you.  at first, I thought Thousand was simply a
cheesy gimmick to get into the Guiness Book of World Records.  Then, I
saw him play it live a few years back and subsequently changed my
opinion of it.  suddenly, I understood what he was trying to say.
anyone else know what I'm talking about?

TAPES & CD'S ARE ON THE WAY TO THOSE OF YOU WHO I PROMISED THEM TO.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

bye then,

--andrew

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From: "trance former" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:03:18 PDT
Date: 22 Apr 1999 21:03:52 -0600

hello there,

man i have to say after hearing "Run On" for the first time, i really
don't like it, in a way it's funny, cuz only Moby could release
sumthing like this...but i am sure the b-sides will be great, like
usual...

oh ya, so is anyone interested in trading moby interviews, recently
i posted that i have a tape of a really kewl moby interview, so if
your interested please let me know...

...non related question, what does the new orbital stuff sound like, i
have everything from them, but i haven't went out to pick the new
stuff up...thanx

peace...dj AHIMSA

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From: "dan perry" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) New Dawn Fades/Whip It
Date: 22 Apr 1999 22:10:23 -0500 (CDT)

i just have to say a couple things.  first, whip it (death metal version)
really isn't.  trust me, my brother listens to the stuff.  the only part
that comes close is where moby sings "too late" really low and growly.

new dawn fades is awesome, as is my love will never die.

thank you for listening. :)



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) My love will never die........
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:33:02 PDT

Now I definitely have to hear 'Whip it'. Moby
doing 'death
>metal' - sounds interesting (let's see how many times we
>can type death metal). I'm getting images of Napalm Death,
>Paradise Lost, Slayer and such like....weird.

I'm not much of a metal expert, but I have
to say that Moby's "Whip It" doesn't
sound much like death metal to me--at
least not in the sense of Slayer or Napalm
Death. For one thing, it's REALLY SLOW.
It's more like dirge-metal. But maybe not....

Matos


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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Chicago?
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:36:13 PDT

Anybody have tapes of the Chicago DJ
show? I know someone posted that they
d...please let me know. Thanks.

Matos


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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re: two questions
Date: 22 Apr 1999 20:30:35 PDT

>(shakes off the patronizing) I think you read me wrong. Allow me to
>clarify. Musical content aside, the lyrics are undeniably goofy. Once
>you see the video, it comes across as even goofier. To me, it sounds
>like they are parodying an attitude with the lyrics. (not a sound!)

But the lyrics parody funk too! Stuff like
the Dazz Band's "Let It Whip" or any
number of other "shake-that-thang" type
nonsensical lyrics. So yes, they are
parodying an attitude, the one that
pervaded every funk track of the period.
The two go together, you can't separate
them. It was a bunch of skinny, geeky
white guys poking fun at the (musical and
lyrical) conventions of badass black funk.
And doing it well, too.

>When he sings the imperative "You must whip it..." I imagine some
>authority figure telling me (with a tone of grave importance) that I
>must follow some rule.

That makes sense, given how utterly
unauthoritative Devo sound. If James
Brown sang it, it'd probably be
convincing--he'd be telling you how HE
whips it, and you'd believe him. Devo do it,
and it's like, "Who the fuck are you?" Which
just enhances the parody.

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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction
Date: 22 Apr 1999 18:56:17 -0500

>I'm sure I've heard of Marcel Duchamp before? However=20
>please explain to me, if possible, what the music is like=20
>and the general background of this artist. You can e-mail=20
>me privately about this, if you want.

Marcel Duchamp was a visual artist, not a musician. :) He was a Dadaist and
is famous for his painting "Nude Descending a Staircase." I'll bet you
could find a lot of info on him on the net.

--
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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 1000
Date: 23 Apr 1999 10:15:50 +0200

I wrote:
>>If there is a song Moby made that should not be taken seriously it
>>would be Thousand....

Then Andrew wrote:
>I used to agree w/you.  at first, I thought Thousand was simply a
>cheesy gimmick to get into the Guiness Book of World Records.  Then, I
>saw him play it live a few years back and subsequently changed my
>opinion of it.

What is so special about it? Enlighten me!
Is it the same as with "Let's go free", a boring album track that,
 when played live, is being transformed into a cool song?

>suddenly, I understood what he was trying to say.

What was he trying to say?

Bart

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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 1000
Date: 23 Apr 1999 03:21:07 -0500

HI,

You know, I had the same experience w/ 1000.  First time I heard it, I
thought it to be a pointless track.  See it live, though, totally changed
my mind as well.

>What was he trying to say?

Not speaking for the person who originally wrote the letter, but for me,
seeing the song live just showed the raw power - and emotion - of the song.
 It's an energy release...showing that ppl can do what ever they so
choose...making the most out of life...AND enjoying the moment.

That's just my take on it.

Cheers!
Brian

PS- We got a promo for Run On today, white lbl. 12".  Does anyone have any
info on mixes for the song?


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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake
Date: 23 Apr 1999 13:28:42 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)


On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:54:58 +0200 Van Eijck <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I didn't say New Dawn Fades is death metal, did I?... I
said this:
> >Hmm, I took it seriously, like New Dawn Fades.
> >I like the song, even though I'm not a death metal fan...

Soz mate, I thought by saying that you implied New Dawn
Fades was death metal. Anyway it was a silly thing for me
to bring up and argue over so.....
>
> By "the song" I didn't mean New Dawn Fades, but Whip It!
> And I have to agree with your description of New Dawn Fades
> as being "alternative/indie/post-punk" kinda music....

Diverging slightly from Moby's guitar based stuff to his
music under his pseudonyms. How would you compare DJ Cake
stuff to Lopez? Still, haven't got round to hearing any
yet! Would anyone say Lopez is better than DJ Cake or is it
possible to even compare?

By the way Bart, where did you say you got your Lopez/DJ
Cake stuff from again? I think you may have mentioned this
before - didn't register though.

Ciao for now,

TMB.
>
>

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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction
Date: 23 Apr 1999 13:46:17 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Thanks John. I've already found that out. I'd still like to
know more about him as an artist - artist. 'Nude Descending
Staircase' somehow rings a bell, but I might be confusing
everything with magic mushroom experiences!?

TMB.

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:56:17 -0500 John Turpin
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> >I'm sure I've heard of Marcel Duchamp before? However=20
> >please explain to me, if possible, what the music is like=20
> >and the general background of this artist. You can e-mail=20
> >me privately about this, if you want.
>
> Marcel Duchamp was a visual artist, not a musician. :) He was a Dadaist and
> is famous for his painting "Nude Descending a Staircase." I'll bet you
> could find a lot of info on him on the net.
>
> --
>  The C.O.D.   /   John Turpin   /   <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
> "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me
>  My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond"
>
>
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:32:32 MET

for jgmagnus:

i think in the intro to feeling so real, moby says:

soundsystem rockin'

i wouldn't bet my left eye for that, but it's just another opinion.

kohut.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility)/Thousand
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:32:42 MET

yes, "thousand",as it appeared on thunderdome 3 (i don't remember the subtitle,
they have funny quotes as subtitles such as "hell on earth" or "killing
playground"), i used to be much into this kind of music called "hardcore", or
especially in netherlands "gabba" (but that' another story) and i can proudly
recommend to you, try it. try to dance to the sound of THOUSAND, with all the
stroboscopes around you pushing you with their light explosions, with the fre-
quency getting higher and higher. and then, when the 1015 BpM comes, it's like
a salvation. unlike the nowadays house stuff, where you just pump around with
boom-ts-boom-ts-boom-ts. this is a real BoomBoomBoomBBBBBOOOOBBOOOOMMMM.
and i don't think THOUSAND should be treated like a less worthy moby song,
because it was a song, which bound a lot of techno fans to moby,that days.


sorry4theenglish. :|

kohut.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: btw : my love will never die
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:32:39 MET

>      BTW - Who really likes the song "My Love Will Never Die" off of the
>      import/2cd or AR? I think it rocks.

i do. i really do. i like AR whole from bottom to top, but "my love will
never die" is one of the best. (i can't arrange them to a chart, because
i like them AAALLLLLL. yeah. they really rock!

kohut.




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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (mobility) My love will never die........
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:27:31 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

I suppose people's classification of music is more
subjective than objective.

I'd love to hear Moby do some folk/new world music - now
that would be intriguing. Didn't this topic get really
ridiculous about a year ago when there was talk of Moby
doing polka and the waltz (jokingly of course)?

TMB


On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:33:02 PDT Michael Matos
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Now I definitely have to hear 'Whip it'. Moby
> doing 'death
> >metal' - sounds interesting (let's see how many times we
> >can type death metal). I'm getting images of Napalm Death,
> >Paradise Lost, Slayer and such like....weird.
>
> I'm not much of a metal expert, but I have
> to say that Moby's "Whip It" doesn't
> sound much like death metal to me--at
> least not in the sense of Slayer or Napalm
> Death. For one thing, it's REALLY SLOW.
> It's more like dirge-metal. But maybe not....
>
> Matos
>
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Subject: (mobility) MobY in Cleveland last weekend
Date: 23 Apr 1999 10:41:23 -0400

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) MobY in Cleveland last weekend rocked
Date: 23 Apr 1999 14:10:51 EDT


  I was at Transformation too.Moby put on one great DJ performance.From what
I heard there were no current plans for video anytime soon.If I'm wrong
correct me

    Peanut



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Lopez vs. Cake
Date: 23 Apr 1999 11:26:37 PDT

The Lopez stuff sounds more like hard underground house, where the
Cake single has more of a garage flavor. Hope that helps.

Matos

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From: Jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) art n stuff
Date: 23 Apr 1999 14:42:24 CDT

if anyone is interested, i updated my artwork today:
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/

:)

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RUN ON!!! GOT IT!!!
Date: 23 Apr 1999 21:46:25 +0200

WHOOOOOOOOOOOHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!
YEEEEAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Today (04-23-1999) I got the 2 Run On CDs I'd pre-ordered.
THEY KICK ASS!
(their official release date is the 26th isn't it? So how come I have
them now?....I got them at the store, nothing special....)

Here are my VERY first impressions of the B-Sides written when
I first listened to the songs:

Spirit:
-----------------------
Huh? real classical sounttrack kinda music? mmm, nice strings!
Hey, my mother listens to this kind of music too! Sounds very much
like the classical album (called Forever) the German techno group
Dune made! WHOOOOOHEEEE fast breakbeats, piano & strings!
Then all is quiet again, leaving only the strings, slowly dieing away
into silence.....

Running:
------------------------
Mmm, nice beat, kinda like the one in Into The Blue (summer night mix)
Don't like the synth sound, but mixed with other instruments it sounds OK
The music reminds me of the B-Sides of the "one of us" single by Dune!
Wow, beautyful! the the vocal samples make up for everything, giving the
song a bit of a sad tone. Nice song...
HEY, Where did the music go?
This song has a weird, sudden ending man!

Sunday:
------------------------
Immediately I think of Micronesia. Hey, that synth! almost like Faithless!
I'm glad Moby still knows how to make a house beat.
(like in Honey (Risk Mix), Honey (Dark Mix) and Honey (Low Side Mix)
these also have real (techno) housebeats by Moby)
Hey, Moby uses the same bassline sound as in Honey's Low side Mix.
Cool, the same pianos as in GO.    Very melodic!   Very Moby!
Wow, I didn't know 5 minutes could pass so quickly...

Down Slow (Full Length Version)
------------------------
Starts really trippy.  Hmm, Moby really starts to sound like Dune!
This song sounds like another B-Side from the "one of us" single
called Black Sands....  What a resemblance!
Not much instruments here, but I like it just as much as the other
B-Sides.

Ratings (out of 10):
-------------------------
Spirit: 9.5
Running: 8 -    (because of the ugly synth...)
Sunday: 9.0
Down Slow: 9.5

PLEASE, DON'T FLAME ME!!
These are my honest, very first impressions and they may change after
a few listens... If you for example really like the synth in Running I
respect
that.

I'd like to hear everybody else's first impression of the songs!

Bart van Eijck










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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake
Date: 23 Apr 1999 21:46:46 +0200

Tim Beecher wrote:
>Diverging slightly from Moby's guitar based stuff to his
>music under his pseudonyms. How would you compare DJ Cake
>stuff to Lopez? Still, haven't got round to hearing any
>yet! Would anyone say Lopez is better than DJ Cake or is it
>possible to even compare?


Dj Cake and Lopez IMO basically make the same kind of music:
It is repetitive techno, (think of older Voodoo Child songs..)
with lots of (vocal) samples and other weird sounds.
It is difficult to compare them because (as far as I know) Dj Cake
only released one single (Sugar Baby) and that sounds a lot
like the Lopez kind of music...

>By the way Bart, where did you say you got your Lopez/DJ
>Cake stuff from again? I think you may have mentioned this
>before - didn't register though.


I got my Lopez CDs and the Dj Cake CD at my local record store.
They can order directly from almost any record company (also Mute)
without postage costs etc. So I have the singles at their normal price.

THE place to get your Lopez singles on the Internet is:
http://www.ab-cd.com   Just type MOBY in the "quick search" window
and you'll get a list of all records they have from Moby and all his alter
ego's.   I don't know if the Dj Cake single is among them though...

Bart




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From: "krwilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:52:31 -0600

Thousand was the song that laid the concrete foundation of my faith in the
mobster.  If you're gonna make music,  why limit yourself in any way?  I
know tons of people who go through this process when listening to electonic
music:

1- What is the release date?  If it's from last year, I don't wanna hear
it.  If it's from before last year, I won't even touch the cd case.  (or
12" or whatever)

2- What BPM is the song at?  I only listen to house music, which should be
at 140, so if it's not 140-don't waste my time.  Also, I don't listen to
ALL house music, just deep house and some techno house and a little garage,
so DON'T try to get me to listen to Ghetto house!

3- Where's the big bass drop?  and the fading-in drum roll to announce the
VERY generic break?  I don't hear any WAY over-used DJ mixer effects,
what's wrong?

AND FINALLY, they reach  the only fork in the road, path A or B.

A- Who wrote this?  If they aren't Fatboy slum, The Crystal Meatheads, or
the Chemical brassiers, then it better be the Prodigy! (sorry, no funny
name for the prodigy, i couldn't think of one)

OR-

B- Who wrote this?  If it's anyone I've ever heard of even once, it must be
some sold-out commercial crap!  If it's not on a white label with
absolutely no markings, it sucks!  'Cause it's gotta be Undergound!

Therefore, I love to see someone who does it all.  Big-ass props to MOBY!
He's the only truly open-minded musician I've ever heard except my other
hero= MIKE PATTON.  Did you know MIKE PATTON wasn't just the extremely
talented front man of FAITH NO MORE and MR. BUNGLE? He also has two(that i
know of) solo efforts.  ONE is a bunch of recordings he made with a
microphone and 4-track in hotels across the world, and the other is- A
SYMPHONY!  What a guy.

MO



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From: "Johan Jaatinen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 1000
Date: 23 Apr 1999 22:18:55 +0200

As an old Moby fan, I must agree with what other people has said about
Thousand.

Thousand is one of the most energetic, orgasmic, dark, powerful, technoey,
hard, fantastic techno tracks in existence.

Turn off the lights, turn the volume of the stereo up to the max, put it on
and let it go...

Johan.

PS. What's happening with Thanks 2?

_________________________________________________________________________
Johan Jaatinen                                         [e-mail]
Gothenburg, Sweden                                   [e-mail]





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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 1k Live
Date: 23 Apr 1999 15:14:39 PDT


     When I saw Moby perform at the House Of Blues (Chicago) in
December 97 he played Thousand last. It was the same version that is
on Rare & Next Is The E, no special live touches, just playback. Moby
had some intense colored strobes and lights going to it, and he
climbed up onto his keyboard in the center of the stage, wearing no
shirt, and crouched down there. As the beat sped up, he ever so slowly
stood up, stretching his arms out as he stood. He finished in the
crucifixion pose. It reminded me of a butterfly hatching,
metaphorically. I can't remember if he did this once or twice, as the
song cycle would suggest. Not important anyways. He seemed to be
soaking up input through each of his senses.

     It was intense.

     Afterwards, when the lights came back on, a group of college
students who had been leaning against the bar commented that Moby has
a "god complex" and that it was pretentious and ridiculous. I
reflexively disagreed mentally, but I could see where their point of
view was coming from. What do you think of Moby's Thousand / butterfly
thing?

     Personally I think that Moby was just demonstrating some sort of
musical enjoyment meditation, a demonstration of his capacity to
immerse himself totally in sound. He had dedicated a song earlier in
the show to everybody who had ever danced the whole night away, and
suggested that those who haven't should try to lose themselves in the
music now.

-Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #373
Date: 23 Apr 1999 18:52:04 EDT


In a message dated 4/22/99 2:55:44 PM,
[e-mail] writes:

<<: Re[2]: (mobility) when my moby come back>>

in the beginning of "Felling So Real" it says "Sound Systems Rocking" or
that's waht at least I get out of it.

-SUN



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) also about patton ...
Date: 23 Apr 1999 21:39:25 EDT

he is also the from man to his new band

FANTOMAS

there releasing there first cd this summer ... so far all they've done is
play a lot of gigs in the san fran area ...

i have been told there great ... they love to play with your head with the
beat ... like get it really aggressive and then get real mellow ... i guess
you could take
marry go bye bye -from disco volante for an example ...

thank god theres other people that know of patton and his many works .

- QGGO



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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 23 Apr 1999 22:14:42 -0400 (EDT)

I don't mean to drag this out...but when i hear it, I hear "sound system
rockin" but some of you have said it sounds like "sound system rockin'
massive"...which sounds like too many words to me...this is when email
gets to be a pain in the ass....Cuz I can't hear someone sing it to me =]
Can it be explained?
or will I never know and continually sing the wrong thing?!!
Must...get...ahold...of....myself
ok..that's all for now
have a good weekend all,
danielle

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> for jgmagnus:
>
> i think in the intro to feeling so real, moby says:
>
> soundsystem rockin'
>
> i wouldn't bet my left eye for that, but it's just another opinion.
>
> kohut.
>
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) art n stuff
Date: 24 Apr 1999 01:11:56 EDT

hey jon-i checked out your artwork-i particularly enjoyed "the big wave of
color "and "pointing in the right direction"--i couldnt check out "throwing
the kisses away", but ilike the title  oh yeah i also like the ones with the
birds
shep



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From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)
Date: 24 Apr 1999 18:37:41 +0300 (EET DST)

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, krwilson wrote:
...
> 1- What is the release date?  If it's from last year, I don't wanna hear
> 2- What BPM is the song at?  I only listen to house music, which should be
> 3- Where's the big bass drop?  and the fading-in drum roll to announce the
> AND FINALLY, they reach  the only fork in the road, path A or B.
> A- Who wrote this?  If they aren't Fatboy slum, The Crystal Meatheads, or
> OR-
> B- Who wrote this?  If it's anyone I've ever heard of even once, it must be
>
> MO
very edited version of MO's message, i assume you read the real one.
Funny, i even didn't know about all those rules&orders you might make up.
Could that be TRUE? Are some listeners really like that? Please explain me
how on earth it can be possible? In fact those people must live in whole
different planet, in some oneway system, or what?
I really mean that i don't understand. So if there is someone who can
explain to me, what is the point limiting yourself that way, please
say something. i would like to know. Does it make life easier?
Of course if one concentrates his energy just to one or few things he gets
more out of them, since time is somewhat limited, and you can't
concentrate on everything. But still...How can someone think that some
things are righter and truer than others? For everyone? I have my truths
and i'm always very delighted to meet someone who shares at least parts of
them, but i really can't understand how could i say that mine are the only
reasonable ones. So :) i'm not saying that it's stupid to follow those
rules MO wrote down, nor i'm saying what you could do to live a better
life and be a optimate mobylistener...Well, if there is lots of
recordbuyers who think music should always and only be this or that way
made, moby will never be a worldfamous popstar. of course not, isn't he
even now,say, famous
technohardcorepunkrock'n'rollpolkadottambiententertainmentclassicaldiscostar?
with all my ten,
heidi, eskimoanarchist. BEHAVE YOURSELF, NOW.





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From: Heidi Gronman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Thousand (and why it is fundamental)
Date: 24 Apr 1999 18:37:41 +0300 (EET DST)

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, krwilson wrote:
...
> 1- What is the release date?  If it's from last year, I don't wanna hear
> 2- What BPM is the song at?  I only listen to house music, which should be
> 3- Where's the big bass drop?  and the fading-in drum roll to announce the
> AND FINALLY, they reach  the only fork in the road, path A or B.
> A- Who wrote this?  If they aren't Fatboy slum, The Crystal Meatheads, or
> OR-
> B- Who wrote this?  If it's anyone I've ever heard of even once, it must be
>
> MO
very edited version of MO's message, i assume you read the real one.
Funny, i even didn't know about all those rules&orders you might make up.
Could that be TRUE? Are some listeners really like that? Please explain me
how on earth it can be possible? In fact those people must live in whole
different planet, in some oneway system, or what?
I really mean that i don't understand. So if there is someone who can
explain to me, what is the point limiting yourself that way, please
say something. i would like to know. Does it make life easier?
Of course if one concentrates his energy just to one or few things he gets
more out of them, since time is somewhat limited, and you can't
concentrate on everything. But still...How can someone think that some
things are righter and truer than others? For everyone? I have my truths
and i'm always very delighted to meet someone who shares at least parts of
them, but i really can't understand how could i say that mine are the only
reasonable ones. So :) i'm not saying that it's stupid to follow those
rules MO wrote down, nor i'm saying what you could do to live a better
life and be a optimate mobylistener...Well, if there is lots of
recordbuyers who think music should always and only be this or that way
made, moby will never be a worldfamous popstar. of course not, isn't he
even now,say, famous
technohardcorepunkrock'n'rollpolkadottambiententertainmentclassicaldiscostar?
with all my ten,
heidi, eskimoanarchist. BEHAVE YOURSELF, NOW.





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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 24 Apr 1999 10:02:08 -0600

Freak wrote:
> I don't mean to drag this out...but when i hear it, I hear "sound system
> rockin" but some of you have said it sounds like "sound system rockin'
> massive"...which sounds like too many words to me...this is when email
> gets to be a pain in the ass....Cuz I can't hear someone sing it to me =]
> Can it be explained?

OK.  At the beginning of FSR, the Jamaican-sounding guy says:

  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  sound system rockin'!
  set it up, DJ!

If you listen closely, you can just hear the Jamaican-sounding guy
start to say "massive" after "rockin'", but it's quickly faded out,
so it's more like "SOUND SYSTEM ROCKIN' ma-" over and over.  He
never actually says "massive" in the song.

So why did I and a bunch of other people say "sound system rockin'
massive"?  Simple.  Because at 4:00 in the EYTM remix parts, which
are included on the FSR single, you can hear the full stand-alone
sample, in which he guy (Kochie Banton?) exclaims "sound system
rockin' massive!"  About 20 seconds later, he says "set it up, DJ!"

Somehow, the EYTM remix part from the FSR single must've gotten
into our heads, so that's what I heard when I recalled how FSR
went, without actually listening to it.  For some reason I thought
the Main Mix had the full sample in it, but it doesn't.

Ergh.  Sorry.  Hope this clears things up.  :)

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Moby, "Feeling So Real (Ecstatic)"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby News.
Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:56:23 EDT

Hi Everyone.

Here's some Moby news I found on the net.

Martin.



Moby Gets Playful, Muses Over Remix Album, Eyes
Prince

By the time Moby -- born Richard Melville Hall --
recorded his major-label debut album, the
emotionally stirring Everything Is Wrong, released
in 1995 (after five years of independent releases),
he had become something of an icon on the
underground electronic scene, thanks to the hit
single "Go" and his remixing prowess. Thus it was no
surprise Moby quickly became ubiquitous: whether it
was having his music appear in the Al Pacino/Robert
DeNiro vehicle Heat or producing Ozzy Osbourne's
"Walk on Water" track, Moby was everywhere.

However, just as soon as he had cemented his
reputation for electronica, he capriciously steered
away from it -- his follow-up effort, the more
rock-flavored Animal Rights, met with much
resistance upon its 1997 release. Moby quickly
stemmed the tide with the playfully titled I Like to
Score collection, a compilation of his work that had
appeared in films, then disappeared from the public
eye for all of 1998.

It's not as if he didn't have offers for work during
that time. "I turned down Guns N' Roses, I turned
down Hole," he says. And that was just production
work. But in his mind, he says, "I'm not a
producer."

Why did he turn down these high- profile projects, as
well as a request to remix a track for Ace of Base
and a seeming once- in- a- lifetime invitation to
remix any song he wanted from Elton John's catalog?
He responds, "I only think about outside stuff when
I'm not thinking about my own things. I had to say
no to everything to stay focused." And for the last
year he's been spending his time completing Play,
his first release for V2 records, due June 1.

Certainly more dance- oriented than Animal Rights,
but again far from a straight electronic album, Play
celebrates Moby's eclecticism by blending his
electronic background with elements of gospel and
vocals sampled from early blues tracks.

"Now that it's done, I'm happy with it," he says of
the new disc. "I'm not thinking about anything else.
I'm just thinking about promoting the record [Moby
is one of the few artists who claims to like doing
interviews], then after seeing if people like it,
I'll be going on tour."

When he does return to remixing, it will be with his
own material, rather than somebody else's. "Maybe a
year from now I'll put out a remix album, where it's
all the songs from the album remixed," he says. And
after that he's still not done drawing from his own
well. Having written what he guesses to be 200 songs
for this CD, he promises fans can also expect a
collection of B-sides from the singles to be
compiled for another Moby disc.

While he will be busy with his own stuff for quite
some time, he admits he has not completely closed
off the idea of working with other artists. But he
does say it would have to be an offer he "couldn't
refuse." And that would be? "I'd love to do a punk
rock song with Prince."

                                 - Steve Baltin






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:23:02 -0500 (CDT)

You know what is funny?  My girlfriend is CONVINCED that Kochie is NOT saying
"Set it up DJ!" but rather "Snap into a SLim Jim!"  She is insane and I have
tried to tell her otherwise.  The very sad thing is, is that she has also
convinced other people that the "Slim Jim" phrase is really what's being said!
Sheesh!

andy

gingerbread man



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 24 Apr 1999 12:07:12 PDT

Daniel Cerman wrote:

>If you listen closely, you can just hear the Jamaican-sounding guy
>start to say "massive" after "rockin'", but it's quickly faded out,
>so it's more like "SOUND SYSTEM ROCKIN' ma-" over and over.  He
>never actually says "massive" in the song.

Or, more to the point, the "ma-" blends into the next iteration of
the word "sound"--meaning that if you're familiar with Jamaican sound-
system terminology the "massive" is easy to figure out.

Matos

PS: I interviewed Moby yesterday. We talked for about 35 minutes, and
it went well, though I didn't prepare any questions in advance. Oh
well. He's pretty interesting--he's done 250 interviews in five
weeks, and he's got his lines down pat. More details later.

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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:12:47 PDT
Date: 24 Apr 1999 23:13:20 -0600

for info on 'Better Living Through Circuitry' which features MOBY...

http://www.technofilm.com

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From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) early stuff
Date: 25 Apr 1999 16:29:20 +0100

did anyone else see the teletext interview with moby on c4 he says he is =
releasing a 82 - 89 collection of un issued and rare stuff




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From: "Robert Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) early stuff
Date: 25 Apr 1999 11:56:20 -0500

Wow. This looks like an awesome release. I really hope this is true.
Has anyone else heard about this 82-89 collection. Maybe we can
hear "The New Wave Moby".

-----Original Message-----


>did anyone else see the teletext interview with moby on c4 he says he is =
>releasing a 82 - 89 collection of un issued and rare stuff
>
>
>




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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez vs. Cake
Date: 25 Apr 1999 18:19:45 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Yeah, thanks for that. I like the sound of Lopez more.

Cheers,

TMB

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:26:37 PDT Michael Matos
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> The Lopez stuff sounds more like hard underground house, where the
> Cake single has more of a garage flavor. Hope that helps.
>
> Matos
>
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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 25 Apr 1999 18:57:58 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)



> Matos
>
> PS: I interviewed Moby yesterday. We talked for about 35 minutes, and
> it went well, though I didn't prepare any questions in advance. Oh
> well. He's pretty interesting--he's done 250 interviews in five
> weeks, and he's got his lines down pat. More details later.
>
Speaking of interviews. Moby did one for this week's 'Boyz'
- London's trashy, free gay paper. He's finally come out
and said he's bisexual. He had some interesting things to
say about his beliefs and relationships. I forgot to ask my
friend to lend me the paper - so I could remember exactly
what he said.

I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
tomorrow over here!

TMB


----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez V DJ Cake
Date: 25 Apr 1999 19:00:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Thanks for the info.

TMB

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:46:46 +0200 Van Eijck <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Tim Beecher wrote:
> >Diverging slightly from Moby's guitar based stuff to his
> >music under his pseudonyms. How would you compare DJ Cake
> >stuff to Lopez? Still, haven't got round to hearing any
> >yet! Would anyone say Lopez is better than DJ Cake or is it
> >possible to even compare?
>
>
> Dj Cake and Lopez IMO basically make the same kind of music:
> It is repetitive techno, (think of older Voodoo Child songs..)
> with lots of (vocal) samples and other weird sounds.
> It is difficult to compare them because (as far as I know) Dj Cake
> only released one single (Sugar Baby) and that sounds a lot
> like the Lopez kind of music...
>
> >By the way Bart, where did you say you got your Lopez/DJ
> >Cake stuff from again? I think you may have mentioned this
> >before - didn't register though.
>
>
> I got my Lopez CDs and the Dj Cake CD at my local record store.
> They can order directly from almost any record company (also Mute)
> without postage costs etc. So I have the singles at their normal price.
>
> THE place to get your Lopez singles on the Internet is:
> http://www.ab-cd.com   Just type MOBY in the "quick search" window
> and you'll get a list of all records they have from Moby and all his alter
> ego's.   I don't know if the Dj Cake single is among them though...
>
> Bart
>
>

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Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 25 Apr 1999 13:16:24 -0500

HI,

Moby said he's bisexual?  I would like to hear what he has to say about
that seeing that he says thanks to christ on just about everything he
releases...and seeing that the church doesn't care for homo/bi-sexuality.

>He's finally come out and said he's bisexual.

Not that I care, I just would like to hear what he has to say about it.

Cheers!
Bri
--
http://www.electronicpulse.com

Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
--





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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 25 Apr 1999 19:40:23 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Well Bri,

I do remember him saying in the interview that he despised
much of conventional Christianity practised by many who
claim to be 'Christians'. He said that Christ never
condemned gay people to hell, but preached the message of
love, understanding and forgiveness, rather than bigotry
and blindness. He said if mainstream Christianity became
less right-wing he might go back to church.

In any case there are several churches who go by a pro-gay
stance - though obviously in the minority. I also know of
several rapidly growing 'ministries' that are at least
accepting gay people though they still go by the old
testament teaching that homosexuality is wrong. However,
they believe intimacy between the same sex is good, as long
as it doesn't lead to sexual relations.

Tim.

On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:16:24 -0500 Electronic Pulse Info
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> HI,
>
> Moby said he's bisexual?  I would like to hear what he has to say about
> that seeing that he says thanks to christ on just about everything he
> releases...and seeing that the church doesn't care for homo/bi-sexuality.
>
> >He's finally come out and said he's bisexual.
>
> Not that I care, I just would like to hear what he has to say about it.
>
> Cheers!
> Bri
> --
> http://www.electronicpulse.com
>
> Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
> --
>
>
>

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 25 Apr 1999 16:45:40 -0400 (EDT)

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally understand now!!!!!!!!!
Funny thing is, i have the FSR single with the sample and I didn't think
to go back and listen to it before I asked the list. That definately
clears everything up for me.......
thanks a bunch,
danielle

On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Daniel Cerman wrote:

> Freak wrote:
> > I don't mean to drag this out...but when i hear it, I hear "sound system
> > rockin" but some of you have said it sounds like "sound system rockin'
> > massive"...which sounds like too many words to me...this is when email
> > gets to be a pain in the ass....Cuz I can't hear someone sing it to me =]
> > Can it be explained?
>
> OK.  At the beginning of FSR, the Jamaican-sounding guy says:
>
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   sound system rockin'!
>   set it up, DJ!
>
> If you listen closely, you can just hear the Jamaican-sounding guy
> start to say "massive" after "rockin'", but it's quickly faded out,
> so it's more like "SOUND SYSTEM ROCKIN' ma-" over and over.  He
> never actually says "massive" in the song.
>
> So why did I and a bunch of other people say "sound system rockin'
> massive"?  Simple.  Because at 4:00 in the EYTM remix parts, which
> are included on the FSR single, you can hear the full stand-alone
> sample, in which he guy (Kochie Banton?) exclaims "sound system
> rockin' massive!"  About 20 seconds later, he says "set it up, DJ!"
>
> Somehow, the EYTM remix part from the FSR single must've gotten
> into our heads, so that's what I heard when I recalled how FSR
> went, without actually listening to it.  For some reason I thought
> the Main Mix had the full sample in it, but it doesn't.
>
> Ergh.  Sorry.  Hope this clears things up.  :)
>
> Daniel Cerman
> http://www.moby.org/
> NP:  Moby, "Feeling So Real (Ecstatic)"
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) feeling so real
Date: 25 Apr 1999 20:44:18 EDT


now THAT is some funny stuff!



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From: "Mike" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 04:50:15 -0600

> >He's finally come out and said he's bisexual

Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
where he's been so open with an issue that generally
doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
sexuality to the general populace?

Or, is it just a feeling he has that he has never acted on?



If you know the truth
down for the fight
then in your heart
you'll be marked for life






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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 12:23:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

He said that there was always some sort of chemistry going
on with both sexes as he was growing up at various times in
his life. He was quite happy sticking to the opposite sex,
but it was only in the last 5 years that he found himself,
quote 'making out with some guy' after partaking in a
threesome, fivesome or whatever. He's open to that, but is
not forcing feelings in any particular direction. I will
have to see the article again to get more accurate
information on this.

Maybe it's the first time he's done an interview with a gay
paper and he felt that it was appropriate to talk about his
sexuality? The questions he was asked were all about his
beliefs and relationships, as well as his music. Maybe
there was no need for him to talk about his sexuality until
this interview? Je ne sais pas.

TMB

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:50:15 -0600 Mike
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > >He's finally come out and said he's bisexual
>
> Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
> Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
> to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
> where he's been so open with an issue that generally
> doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
> issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
> sexuality to the general populace?
>
> Or, is it just a feeling he has that he has never acted on?
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> If you know the truth
> down for the fight
> then in your heart
> you'll be marked for life
>
>
>
>

----------------------
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Cranfield University
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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Gossip/Play?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 13:32:18 +0200

==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==---==--==--==
Tim Beecher wrote:
>Speaking of interviews. Moby did one for this week's 'Boyz'
>- London's trashy, free gay paper. He's finally come out
>and said he's bisexual. He had some interesting things to
>say about his beliefs and relationships. I forgot to ask my
>friend to lend me the paper - so I could remember exactly
>what he said.


I have an interview in which Moby says that he gets turned on
by dead people... (of course this is a joke!)

>I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
>tomorrow over here!


What happened to the official release date of May the 17th!!
You live in the UK, right? Hmm, then it shouldn't be too difficult
for me to order Play from there.
Or are you talking about Run On? (rel. date: 04-26-'99)

Bart

==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 13:29:26 MET

> Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
> Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
> to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
> where he's been so open with an issue that generally
> doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
> issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
> sexuality to the general populace?

i think, that the question of sexual orientation is a very private one,
so it is somehow different from the other "divisive" declarations. and
it seems to be a "none of your busines" question, unlike when speaking
about animal rights, environment or even christianity, (which is also a
private one, but not that much, i think).
i've had the feeling, moby might be gay, for a long time ago, it stems
from his appearance and opinions, he seemed to me like a kind of too
much sensitive and open to be straight. i feel very happy, that moby has
come out, i like him some more now, (if it is possible to like him more:) )
But these are just my opinions about the qusetion of sexuality, it is probable,
(if not even sure), that moby had different reasons for keeping it a secret
until now.
i'm so happy, happy, happy. isn't this mr.hall a fabuolous person?

 #^###                      **  **
#:-] kOHUT.                ********
 #v###                      ******
                              **

(is it possible to convert the interview from the (i don't remember the name
"boyz" ? not sure aboutthat) magazine (magayzine) to a text file, i can't
imagine myself asking a shopkeeper if he has one, here in europe. thanx4all in
advance. MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOU. I`M SO HAPPY.)





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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 07:36:22 -0400

On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 01:29:26PM +0100, [e-mail] wrote:

> > Any guesses as to why he waited so long with this issue?
> > Moby has generally seemed to be very open in regards
> > to his beliefs, why would he keep this undercover
> > where he's been so open with an issue that generally
> > doesn't go over well in many subcultures (christ) or an
> > issue like animal rights, which can be just as divisive as
> > sexuality to the general populace?
>
> i think, that the question of sexual orientation is a very private one,
> so it is somehow different from the other "divisive" declarations. and
> it seems to be a "none of your busines" question, unlike when speaking
> about animal rights, environment or even christianity, (which is also a
> private one, but not that much, i think).
I dont really care about what he (non-injuring to other people) does to
get fun... mainly because I'm not fond of him :)

Anyway, as for I've read in the list, he's had esporadically several
gay experiences, which doesnt make him gay. You should differentiate
between gay behaviour and homosexualism (or bisexualism).

> i've had the feeling, moby might be gay, for a long time ago, it stems
> from his appearance and opinions, he seemed to me like a kind of too
> much sensitive and open to be straight.
I hope there are sensitive and open men outta there that are straight.

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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 09:20:00 -0500 (CDT)

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> i've had the feeling, moby might be gay, for a long time ago, it stems
> from his appearance and opinions, he seemed to me like a kind of too
> much sensitive and open to be straight. i feel very happy, that moby has

i'm sure you ment well, but it's pretty offensive to say (for people of
both sexual prefrences) that being gay means being open and sensitive.
shouldn't everyone be sensitive? if i'm sensitive (and what does this
mean, really...) do i have to like having sex with other men? if i share
my deepest fears and strongest joy with my girlfriend, do i have to dump
her for a guy? "it seems from his appearance..." what does a gay (or
in this case bi) person look like?
once again, i think you ment well, but that's all the more reason to
check your words.

> (is it possible to convert the interview from the (i don't remember the name
> "boyz" ? not sure aboutthat) magazine (magayzine) to a text file, i can't
> imagine myself asking a shopkeeper if he has one, here in europe. thanx4all in
> advance. MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOU. I`M SO HAPPY.)

if you're so "happy" for moby, why can't you ask for the magazine that
he's in? are you afraid that the shopkeeper will think you're gay? if so,
doesn't this negate all your previous statments?

sorry if this all seems a bit picky. it's early and i haven't had my
coffee yet.

[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
                    but i really enjoy thinking."
                      Masafumi Sanai-photographer




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) AR/My Love WND/ Face It
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:37:54 -0700


     NOt only that song, but FACE IT is a really great song. I love how
     MOBY just jams on the guitar for about 5 minutes at the end of that
     song. ROCK ON MOBY!

     Say, anyone heard FACE IT live?? He didn't play it the two times I saw
     him.

     - Jayson


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Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET


>      BTW - Who really likes the song "My Love Will Never Die" off of the
>      import/2cd or AR? I think it rocks.

i do. i really do. i like AR whole from bottom to top, but "my love will
never die" is one of the best. (i can't arrange them to a chart, because
i like them AAALLLLLL. yeah. they really rock!

kohut.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) 1000 LIVE!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:31:16 -0700



     The deal is this. If you don't TURN IT UP (like it is live) then you
     can't appreciate the power. When Moby does it live, you FEEL the base
     & energy moving your body. Moby plays it LOUD. PLUS, heck, by the time
     he plays it, you are "IN THE ZONE" if you know what I mean.

     - Jayson


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Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET


HI,

You know, I had the same experience w/ 1000.  First time I heard it, I
thought it to be a pointless track.  See it live, though, totally changed
my mind as well.

>What was he trying to say?

Not speaking for the person who originally wrote the letter, but for me,
seeing the song live just showed the raw power - and emotion - of the song.
 It's an energy release...showing that ppl can do what ever they so
choose...making the most out of life...AND enjoying the moment.

That's just my take on it.

Cheers!
Brian

PS- We got a promo for Run On today, white lbl. 12".  Does anyone have any
info on mixes for the song?


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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Gossip/Play?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 17:54:39 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)


On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:32:18 +0200 Van Eijck <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> ==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==---==--==--==
> Tim Beecher wrote:
> >Speaking of interviews. Moby did one for this week's 'Boyz'
> >- London's trashy, free gay paper. He's finally come out
> >and said he's bisexual. He had some interesting things to
> >say about his beliefs and relationships. I forgot to ask my
> >friend to lend me the paper - so I could remember exactly
> >what he said.
>
>
> I have an interview in which Moby says that he gets turned on
> by dead people... (of course this is a joke!)

I don't see how admitting you have had gay experiences, is
meant to be a joke? Is there a problem with Moby having
gay feelings or something? I hope, his views on the
environment, veganism, etc aren't a joke either!
>
> >I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
> >tomorrow over here!
>
>
> What happened to the official release date of May the 17th!!
> You live in the UK, right? Hmm, then it shouldn't be too difficult
> for me to order Play from there.
> Or are you talking about Run On? (rel. date: 04-26-'99)
>
> Bart

I'm pretty sure the U.K. release is today. I must check the
'Run on' postcard I received last week from DEF.
>
TMB

----------------------
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Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 18:28:37 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

I hate being labelled as whatever. Everyone is unique.
I think there are varying degrees of homosexuality and
heterosexuality. From my experience, I see a scale (as
others have heard me spout already) for sexuality - say gay
on the left, bisexuals in the middle and straight on the
right and different people are of varying degrees on that
scale. There's no real hard and fast rules. However, I
didn't choose my sexual orientation and it's not something
I can suddenly change if I want to.

> > (is it possible to convert the interview from the (i don't remember the name
> > "boyz" ? not sure aboutthat) magazine (magayzine) to a text file, i can't
> > imagine myself asking a shopkeeper if he has one, here in europe. thanx4all in
> > advance. MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOU. I`M SO HAPPY.)
>
> if you're so "happy" for moby, why can't you ask for the magazine that
> he's in? are you afraid that the shopkeeper will think you're gay? if so,
> doesn't this negate all your previous statments?
>
> [xaq]
> "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
>                     but i really enjoy thinking."
>                       Masafumi Sanai-photographer

I don't know what the situation is like where you live
(Kohut or is it Matej?). I mean are people hostile to gay
men and women? If it's anything like the small community in
Ireland where I grew up, people can be very small minded
and give you a hard time, so it's easier to stay in the
closet rather then get 'queer-bashed' by some repressed
twats.

As for getting the paper, it might prove difficult. I can't
get it outside London. You'd have to visit some gay/mixed
bar/club in the London area to pick one up and it is
published weekly. Unfortunately I'm not living in London,
and the next time I'll be there will be in 2 weeks time at
the earliest. My friend might still have it though. I'll
ask him not to chuck it, if he hasn't already. If you're
that interested I'll try and pass it your way.

At any rate the paper is a bit trashy as I said and I'd be
embarrassed to ask for it. It's like a straight person,
who's a tad shy and goes up to the local newsagent and asks
for the latest Playboy.

Most of the time it's hard to tell who's gay and who isn't.
Some guys I know, do have 'gaydar' though and you can begin
to notice certain mannerisms and dress code. The London
scene is all very contrived and plastic. Hence, I prefer
the more alternative venues, where your sexuality isn't a
big deal.

Love, peace and understanding,

TMB


----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Gossip/Play?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 13:47:42 -0700


     I think he meant that "getting turned on by the dead" was a joke. Not
     being Gay. MOBY loves his sex life, no one can argue about that!


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________

> I have an interview in which Moby says that he gets turned on
> by dead people... (of course this is a joke!)

I don't see how admitting you have had gay experiences, is
meant to be a joke? Is there a problem with Moby having
gay feelings or something? I hope, his views on the
environment, veganism, etc aren't a joke either!
>
> >I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
> >tomorrow over here!
>
>
> What happened to the official release date of May the 17th!!
> You live in the UK, right? Hmm, then it shouldn't be too difficult
> for me to order Play from there.
> Or are you talking about Run On? (rel. date: 04-26-'99)
>
> Bart

I'm pretty sure the U.K. release is today. I must check the
'Run on' postcard I received last week from DEF.
>
TMB

----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]





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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Gossip/Play?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 19:13:27 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

I realise he meant getting off on dead people was a
joke. But it seems obvious that Bart also meant that Moby
saying he is bisexual was a joke too, no? Wasn't there some
point to bringing it up in relation to the topic, or was it
just off the wall? Correct me if I'm wrong with that yet
again Bart?

TMB

On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:47:42 -0700 [e-mail] wrote:

>
>      I think he meant that "getting turned on by the dead" was a joke. Not
>      being Gay. MOBY loves his sex life, no one can argue about that!
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
>
> > I have an interview in which Moby says that he gets turned on
> > by dead people... (of course this is a joke!)
>
> I don't see how admitting you have had gay experiences, is
> meant to be a joke? Is there a problem with Moby having
> gay feelings or something? I hope, his views on the
> environment, veganism, etc aren't a joke either!
> >
> > >I can't wait to hear the album - officially released
> > >tomorrow over here!
> >
> >
> > What happened to the official release date of May the 17th!!
> > You live in the UK, right? Hmm, then it shouldn't be too difficult
> > for me to order Play from there.
> > Or are you talking about Run On? (rel. date: 04-26-'99)
> >
> > Bart
>
> I'm pretty sure the U.K. release is today. I must check the
> 'Run on' postcard I received last week from DEF.
> >
> TMB
>
> ----------------------
> Tim Beecher
> Cranfield University
> [e-mail]
>
>
>

----------------------
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Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 13:28:19 -0500

> I think there are varying degrees of homosexuality and
> heterosexuality.
>
Either you suck d*** or you dont suck d***, no two ways about it! (obviously
this is MY view and I know everyone differs).

>  However, I didn't choose my sexual orientation and it's not something
> I can suddenly change if I want to.
>
I know I am making no friends by this, but is this the "God made me this
way" excuse?


> At any rate the paper is a bit trashy
HMMM..................

> It's like a straight person, who's a tad shy and goes up to the local
> newsagent and asks for the latest Playboy.
>
bit different my friend........

Once again, I know I am making no friends. But everyone is entitled to their
opinion and since everyone was voicing theirs.........








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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Gossip/Play?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 20:46:57 +0200

I wrote:
>> I have an interview in which Moby says that he gets turned on
>> by dead people... (of course this is a joke!)


Then Tim Beecher wrote:
>I don't see how admitting you have had gay experiences, is
>meant to be a joke? Is there a problem with Moby having
>gay feelings or something? I hope, his views on the
>environment, veganism, etc aren't a joke either!


Oh, no I don't mean that! I'm so sorry! My Enlish is not that good
so I get misunderstood a lot...
What I wanted to do is give a funny quote of something Moby said
as a joke in an interview. Just a funny quote, nothing more, nothing
less... Laying the emphasis on THIS, I tried to indicate that THIS
particular quote should not be taken seriously, not the one about
Moby's bisexuality... I admit after reading it again that I should have
used other words to say what I meant.
I'm sorry that this "misunderstanding" thing always happens with you Tim.
(You know, with the Death Metal thing a few days ago)

I take his views on the environment and veganism very seriously!
In fact, I'm jealous of him. Everytime I eat an animal I feel guilty,
and yet I can't resist to eat that hamburger from Mac Donalds...
I wish I had the strength to just stop eating animals!

So what if you're gay, bisexual or straight. As long as you're HONEST!

So Tim, I'm sorry if I sounded rude to you or Moby.

Bart

" i believe that personal and social well being is built upon a foundation
of hard work, loyalty, honesty, diligence, respect, tolerance and other good
'values'.   but it doesn't matter what the cultural manifestation of the
values looks like.  it can be straight or gay or male or female or white or
black or anything so long as it's respectful of others and makes the
practitioner feel well. "

Taken from: "one problem with cultural conservatism"   by Moby









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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame wars"...
Date: 26 Apr 1999 13:17:33 PDT

Chris Kloehr wrote:
>Either you suck d*** or you dont suck d***, no two ways about it! (obviously
>this is MY view and I know everyone differs).

It certainly is YOUR view. Just like, say,
"Either you are an intolerant fucking
MORON or you are not, no two ways
about it," right?

>I know I am making no friends by this, but is this the "God made me this
>way" excuse?

Excuse? Excuse ME? Are you implying
that homosexuality is something you
can just decide to change at random?
You sound, my completely ignorant
friend, like one of those "ex-gay"
ministers who insist you can somehow
be "turned straight" by denouncing
homosexuality and all its trappings.
Never mind that you're going to desire
people of the same sex for the rest of
your natural life, never mind that nobody
gives straght people any shit because
they "decided" to like the opposite sex,
never mind that sexuality is as ingrained
as eye color, male pattern baldness and
COMPLETE FUCKING STUPIDITY (that
would be your department, Chris)--you
can try to change them, but you're
gonna look pretty goddamn silly doing so.
No, let's all force gay people back into
the closet where their "sinful, unnatural"
impulses will not bother the rest of us
good, upstanding straight folk. Let's all
live inside a Nazi-ish fantasy of
repression and hatred, where straight
folks are the only ones allowed to express
themselves sexually.

Am I mad? You fucking better believe I
am. Chris: when you say "excuse," you
are implying that anyone who is gay is so
unnaturally--that they're doing it for no
other reason than they want to, for
rebellion or kicks or whatever. It also
implies that homosexuality is an
unnatural state--that anyone who is gay
is a freak of nature. In both cases, the
answer is "no."

I take it you are straight. Did you wake
up one day and decide you liked girls?
Was it a conscious decision on your
part? Of course it wasn't. WHAT MAKES
YOU THINK IT WORKS ANY DIFFERENT
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE,
DIPSHIT?!

>> It's like a straight person, who's a tad shy and goes up to the local
>> newsagent and asks for the latest Playboy.
>>
>bit different my friend........
>
>Once again, I know I am making no friends. But everyone is entitled to their
>opinion and since everyone was voicing theirs.........

Well, here's another opinion, and I don't
mind being flamed for it: If you are as
intolerant of homosexuality as you seem
to be claiming, you have no business
whatsoever being on a newsgroup that
specifically deals with an artist, Moby,
who A) makes music specifially
influenced by gay disco and house, B)
has sermonized (in his liner notes,
interviews, and on stage) that there is
no excuse for that kind of bigotry, and
C) has just outed himself as bisexual. I
realize that makes me a bigot of sorts
myself, and I understand that I am
contradictng myself to a degree by being
intolerant of ignorant bullshit like the
letter I am replying to. I also know I am
not the listmaster and cannot make the
decision for the group to get rid of
people with stupid-assed opinions like Mr.
Kloehr's. Nevertheless, it seems to me
that anyone who would make comments
like those COMPLETELY MISSES THE
POINT OF MOBY'S MUSIC AND THE
BELIEFS THAT INFLUENCE THEM, and
has nothing to contribute to any
intelligent discussion of those things.

Feel free to flame away.
Matos


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) Interview gossip.......
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:55:21 -0700



     what if you eat pus*y or don't eat pus*y? Then what does that mean? I
     mean, SOMETIMES I feel like eating pus*y, but other times I don't.
     Maybe it just makes me indecisive ...  I'm confused.

     - Jayson (who wants everyone to chill and listen to MOBY)

     "All that I need is to be Loved"
     Either you NEED to be loved or you DON'T


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  [e-mail] at INTERNET


> I think there are varying degrees of homosexuality and
> heterosexuality.
>
Either you suck d*** or you dont suck d***, no two ways about it! (obviously
this is MY view and I know everyone differs).

>  However, I didn't choose my sexual orientation and it's not something
> I can suddenly change if I want to.
>
I know I am making no friends by this, but is this the "God made me this
way" excuse?


> At any rate the paper is a bit trashy
HMMM..................

> It's like a straight person, who's a tad shy and goes up to the local
> newsagent and asks for the latest Playboy.
>
bit different my friend........

Once again, I know I am making no friends. But everyone is entitled to their
opinion and since everyone was voicing theirs.........









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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:27:17 -0500

Hi,

Two things.

1) I think that Chris is full of shit, personally.

2)
---
never mind that sexuality is as ingrained
as eye color, male pattern baldness and
COMPLETE FUCKING STUPIDITY (that
--

That comment is not scientific fact, and to do so would to base a defense
on shakey ground.  There is scientific evidence that supports both schools
of thought.  Since we are not talking science, let's talk what we know.
>From my experice, my gay friends, som say they have made the choice to live
the life they live AND some say it's natural...so...take that for what you
will.

All and all, you are what you are.  If you are gay, not gay, animal lover,
who the fuck cares?  The whole point is ppl. are ppl.  We can't change
that, nor should we even attempt to change it. If you have a problem
because someone is gay, it's your problem.  The problem IS NOT that they
are gay, the problem is that you cannot deal with things that make you
uncomfortable.

Hey, enjoy his music...

-Bri

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From: "Jon Gage" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) See ya
Date: 26 Apr 1999 16:36:14 -0400

Well kids, after 2+ years on this list I'm calling it quits.
No offense to anyone in particular, but it's getting
pretty retarded.
Take care all....




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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame wars
Date: 26 Apr 1999 17:03:30 -0500

ok ok ok...............

I must apologize.....for stating my opinion. I came across like a biggot, of
which I am not.  I know I am no better than the next person. I have
aquaintances which are gay, and they know how I feel as well.  But, please
let me tell you this.  I do realize that ALL people have their differences.
Some fat, some thin, some gay, some straight. The world takes all types. But
BOTTOM LINE..........I am part of this group for the music, and I was
totally WRONG in letting my opinions come out like they did (it wasnt even
my thread).

Please accept my humble apologies.......

CK

> ----------
> From:     Michael Matos[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Reply To:     [e-mail]
> Sent:     Monday, April 26, 1999 3:17 PM
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame
> wars"...
>
> Chris Kloehr wrote:
> >Either you suck d*** or you dont suck d***, no two ways about it!
> (obviously
> >this is MY view and I know everyone differs).
>
> It certainly is YOUR view. Just like, say,
> "Either you are an intolerant fucking
> MORON or you are not, no two ways
> about it," right?
>
> >I know I am making no friends by this, but is this the "God made me this
> >way" excuse?
>
> Excuse? Excuse ME? Are you implying
> that homosexuality is something you
> can just decide to change at random?
> You sound, my completely ignorant
> friend, like one of those "ex-gay"
> ministers who insist you can somehow
> be "turned straight" by denouncing
> homosexuality and all its trappings.
> Never mind that you're going to desire
> people of the same sex for the rest of
> your natural life, never mind that nobody
> gives straght people any shit because
> they "decided" to like the opposite sex,
> never mind that sexuality is as ingrained
> as eye color, male pattern baldness and
> COMPLETE FUCKING STUPIDITY (that
> would be your department, Chris)--you
> can try to change them, but you're
> gonna look pretty goddamn silly doing so.
> No, let's all force gay people back into
> the closet where their "sinful, unnatural"
> impulses will not bother the rest of us
> good, upstanding straight folk. Let's all
> live inside a Nazi-ish fantasy of
> repression and hatred, where straight
> folks are the only ones allowed to express
> themselves sexually.
>
> Am I mad? You fucking better believe I
> am. Chris: when you say "excuse," you
> are implying that anyone who is gay is so
> unnaturally--that they're doing it for no
> other reason than they want to, for
> rebellion or kicks or whatever. It also
> implies that homosexuality is an
> unnatural state--that anyone who is gay
> is a freak of nature. In both cases, the
> answer is "no."
>
> I take it you are straight. Did you wake
> up one day and decide you liked girls?
> Was it a conscious decision on your
> part? Of course it wasn't. WHAT MAKES
> YOU THINK IT WORKS ANY DIFFERENT
> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE,
> DIPSHIT?!
>
> >> It's like a straight person, who's a tad shy and goes up to the local
> >> newsagent and asks for the latest Playboy.
> >>
> >bit different my friend........
> >
> >Once again, I know I am making no friends. But everyone is entitled to
> their
> >opinion and since everyone was voicing theirs.........
>
> Well, here's another opinion, and I don't
> mind being flamed for it: If you are as
> intolerant of homosexuality as you seem
> to be claiming, you have no business
> whatsoever being on a newsgroup that
> specifically deals with an artist, Moby,
> who A) makes music specifially
> influenced by gay disco and house, B)
> has sermonized (in his liner notes,
> interviews, and on stage) that there is
> no excuse for that kind of bigotry, and
> C) has just outed himself as bisexual. I
> realize that makes me a bigot of sorts
> myself, and I understand that I am
> contradictng myself to a degree by being
> intolerant of ignorant bullshit like the
> letter I am replying to. I also know I am
> not the listmaster and cannot make the
> decision for the group to get rid of
> people with stupid-assed opinions like Mr.
> Kloehr's. Nevertheless, it seems to me
> that anyone who would make comments
> like those COMPLETELY MISSES THE
> POINT OF MOBY'S MUSIC AND THE
> BELIEFS THAT INFLUENCE THEM, and
> has nothing to contribute to any
> intelligent discussion of those things.
>
> Feel free to flame away.
> Matos
>
>
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From: "Casey Pentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Offensive comments
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:44:08 PDT

I would like to voice my opinion on comments Chris Kloehr made about
homosexuality.  Someone can have sexual encounters with the same sex,
without being homosexual, not that this really matters anyway.  Being
either homosexual, bi-sexual, or just confused, is not something that
needs an excuse.  If someone finds their own sex attractive, it is
not something that can be controlled.  If someone is homosexual, he
or she was probably born that way.  Being able to make love to a
person you know and are attracted to is a gift of God, regardless of
what sex they are.
This is how I feel.

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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:47:36 PDT


>never mind that sexuality is as ingrained
>as eye color, male pattern baldness and
>COMPLETE FUCKING STUPIDITY (that
>--
>
>That comment is not scientific fact, and to do so would to base a defense
>on shakey ground.  There is scientific evidence that supports both schools
>of thought.  Since we are not talking science, let's talk what we know.
>>From my experice, my gay friends, som say they have made the choice to live
>the life they live AND some say it's natural...so...take that for what you
>will.

Understood.  But the lifestyle takes its
cues from the innate desire, not just in a
gay context, but any. So scientifically, no.
I've heard the same thing from gay friends
myself, so I know what you're saying.
>

>PS-I love the subject title.

Glad someone noticed. :-)

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Stepanek)
Subject: (mobility) Moby likes hot-dogs!
Date: 27 Apr 1999 18:50:13 +0000

You know, if I were Moby and I ready this list often I would just sit and
laugh.  Especially when people here pick and analyze to death every single
word he says.  Can't anything be taken for face value?  Moby says this Moby
says that.  Granted this list is intended to discuss Moby related items, but
come on.  There has been so much chest pounding and reading between the
lines here over what I feel was probably an aside in the interview.

It is great everyone likes to discuss Moby here, but stop picking so deep.

What if Moby said he likes hot-dogs?  I can already see the anti-vegan,
homo-erotic, freudian directions the conversation would take.

I am babbling here, I just think it is rather silly how EVERYTHING is
analyzed and analyzed to the point of obsurdity.

Just a random thought!  Or am I having a bad day?
hmmmmm....

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From: "Daniel Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) 1000 flamewars
Date: 26 Apr 1999 16:18:49 PDT

CK wrote:

>I must apologize.....for stating my opinion. I came across like a biggot, of
>which I am not.  I know I am no better than the next person. I have
>aquaintances which are gay, and they know how I feel as well.  But, please
>let me tell you this.  I do realize that ALL people have their differences.
>Some fat, some thin, some gay, some straight. The world takes all types. But
>BOTTOM LINE..........I am part of this group for the music, and I was
>totally WRONG in letting my opinions come out like they did (it wasnt even
>my thread).
>
>Please accept my humble apologies.......
>
>CK

    Whatever. Anyway, I was thinking last night about the song
"Thousand"... and it occurred to me that when Moby performs it live,
metamorphosing with the pounding of the music until the butterfly sheds
its chrysalis and emerges in crucifix form, maybe this act is in itself
the message he is trying to deliver. Perhaps in the performance of the
piece, we see the intention of the artist as a cry out to the audience:
    Lose your COMPLETELY in the music and you can touch God. Perhaps
the statement is that music is the modern day religious experience,
taking us places within ourselves that we could not otherwise reach.
Internalize the sound... like a cocoon enveloping a caterpillar... let
it swell, grow within you... then, in total joy, total bliss, total
spiritual ECSTASY ù EXPLODE. SEE religion, FEEL pure awe, KNEEL before
the power in which you are taking part...
    ...then breathe.

opinions?

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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby likes veggie hot-dogs!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 19:35:08 -0700

> You know, if I were Moby and I ready this list often I would just sit and

> laugh.  Especially when people here pick and analyze to death every
single
> word he says.  Can't anything be taken for face value?  Moby says this
Moby
> says that.  Granted this list is intended to discuss Moby related items,
but
> come on.  There has been so much chest pounding and reading between the
> lines here over what I feel was probably an aside in the interview.

i agree. we're obsessing a *little* too much here.  but it would be really
amusing if moby DID read all the weird tangents we get off on...  i've
always had the idea that if for some reason i was famous and there were
mailing lists and websites devoted to me (ego trip! ego trip!) i'd log on
under an assumed name and start rumors about myself, pretending to be a
fan.  hehehe...

>
> It is great everyone likes to discuss Moby here, but stop picking so
deep.
>

but isnt' that what fans are supposed to do? over analyze things until we
reach the point of insanity?  wasn't it in can't hardly wait (good movie!)
they talked about barry manalo fans obsessing over the song mandy, which
turns out to be about his dog? i dunno...  i guess its our job.  we're
allowed to go a little insane when it comes to da man...

> What if Moby said he likes hot-dogs?  I can already see the anti-vegan,
> homo-erotic, freudian directions the conversation would take.
>

hey! i like (vegetarian) hotdogs! don't diss em!  its good conviencence
food, especially during exams!!!

> I am babbling here, I just think it is rather silly how EVERYTHING is
> analyzed and analyzed to the point of obsurdity.

hey well i tend to babble as well... we're all allowed to babble...
considering how much time i spend answering and reading email, my brain is
mush... so babble is all that comes out sometimes...

anyway, i just thought i'd put in my two cents, as i've been silent for a
little while. one of these days i'll finish my "you know you're an
obsessive moby fan" list and post it... but with a test like that, i think
we'd all fail it ;)

peace.

-kelly



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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Playing w/"flame wars"...
Date: 26 Apr 1999 19:29:17 -0600

Chris Kloehr wrote:
>
> ok ok ok...............
>
> I must apologize.....for stating my opinion.

Really, there's no need to (since others were sharing theirs) but thank
you anyway.  <G>  Even though I have found this thread interesting (I've
been both shocked and amused) it's time to bring it back to Moby.  I
have personally believed that Moby had some gay leanings but at the same
time I wouldn't call him a gay male or even bisexual.  "Bisexual" may be
close to an accurate word (who knows, I won't say until I get more info
or better quotes) but I'd just chalk it up to he's had some experiences
and leave it at that.  I don't have enough facts or information to give
him a new "label".

Either way, enough of the attacks people!  :)

Also... I've been loving the new album (PLAY).  I think the majority of
the list will be happy with what they hear.  "Run On" has grown to be a
favorite of mine despite my frightened initial reaction, LOL.  Once
again, Moby has helped me open my ears to new expressions in sound.  As
for "Bodyrock" (the next scheduled single), I'm still not too fond of
it.  Not bad in the least but there are some other tracks that strike a
better chord with me.  Blah, blah, blah...


Damian.
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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) OK
Date: 28 Apr 1999 11:16:06 +0900

Hey, i love you guys, and even though I havn't nothing to add to this whole
gay/strait conversation, I did want to say I enjoyed your post, Mike M. It was
pretty good. But my question is this, and totally unrelated yet totally
relevant.
    Is there one person on this list besides me who just listens to Moby's music
because they like it? They don't pick apart the songs, count the beats, find
meanings in the words, get moved by the sound, inspired by his essays, care
what he thinks or how he acts, and if they saw him on the street would just
say Hi, I like your stuff and I have a lot of it? Anyone? I am starting to
fell bad that I have about 40 dif Moby CDs and just like it for the music.
Period. Tell me there is someone else out there. Someone who can listen to the
music while eating a hamburger and driving your car alone just cruising with
no where to go? I mean, anyone? I love what you guys have to say, which is the
reason I am on this list. But I just don't care, you know? It is music - to me
at least.
    Anyway, Tim, my Run On Psotcard says MAy 17th for Play and April 26th for Run
On. Anyway, Later.
AJ



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From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Not To Burst In...
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:08:28 -0600 (MDT)

    I just thought I'd let myself in quietly.  ^_^  Hello, my name is
Anne in RL, and I've gone by all sorts, from Zou, to GinDai Zou *Japanese*
and kitty, of course...thought it's really my mother's account.  In any
case, call me what you will.  ^_^  *Well, if it's deserved, I mean...eek
^_^;;;*  Anyways, I won't have much to say for awhile, first off, 'cause
I'm a highschool SENIOR *yup, a young 'un* and about to graduate in like
10 DAYS!!!  So...^_^;  Well, and plus *hide* I've yet to actually hear any
music by Sir Moby.  ^_^;
    I guess I should clarify, then, how I know of him.  I saw him,
first, in a magazine reviewing his work, and I cut out the picture of him
*I have this thing for guys with like, no hair or close to it *^^** and
that was like two years ago.  Then, yesterday, I picked up a book my step
dad had checked out of the library, a collection of interviews with
various artists.  It was odd that Moby was in there, for me, because
"techno," the label I had of him, didn't fit.  So I read the interview and
I was impressed and amazed by what I read.  Finally someone who thinks the
way I do!  Of course with some billions of people on this planet, it was
bound to happen.  But it's still nice to know.  ^_^
    As for other artists I like, the list is huge.  I'm a big music
fan, in general, going all the way from the soft side to the hard side and
back again.  About the only musics I don't like are ... huh...well, know
of anything arranged by Kirby Shaw?  *hide*  Okay, sorry, that's a chorus
joke ^_^;  But anyways.  So basically, you name it, and I've heard of it,
I probably like it.  Lesse, though, my faves are Live, Adam Ant,
Tchaikovsky, Janis Ian, Violent Femmes, Jars of Clay, and the Cranberries.
    Oh gosh now I feel as if I've said plenty to keep ya busy for
months ^_^;  It's been so long since I've been on a list.  Basically, I'm
hear to listen about Moby, and I will definately get ahold of a cd as soon
as I can!  ^_^  Okay, back to hotdogs.  ^_-  Oh, no, but really, I'm not a
big meat fan or non-fan...If I had a choice, starve or eat chicken, I'd
eat chicken.  But then, ya know.  ^_^  Let's just say that the worlds too
big for more words from me.  ^_^
                            pickle
ps did I mention pickle is another name I use?  ^_^  *hide*  Bai!
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From: "Mike" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OK
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:42:04 -0600

> Is there one person on this list besides me who just listens to Moby's
music
> because they like it? They don't pick apart the songs, count the beats,
find
> meanings in the words, get moved by the sound, inspired by his essays,
care
> what he thinks or how he acts, and if they saw him on the street would
just
> say Hi, I like your stuff and I have a lot of it? Anyone? I am starting to
> fell bad that I have about 40 dif Moby CDs and just like it for the music.
> Period. Tell me there is someone else out there. Someone who can listen to
the
> music while eating a hamburger and driving your car alone just cruising
with
> no where to go? I mean, anyone? I love what you guys have to say, which is
the
> reason I am on this list. But I just don't care, you know? It is music -
to me
> at least.

Ah, that's how I am with Moby.  Toss Moby in the cd player and just drive,
watchin' the scenary flow by along w/ the beautiful music.  I like to drift
out at night listening to some of him.  Even just playing it in the
background while I write a paper, Moby's music is always good.

I've never been one to deconstruct music, aside from lyrics occasionally.
It never really occured to me.  However, I love the views that are presented
on this list.  What makes them great is just that - these views of the music
never occur to me.

If you know the truth
down for the fight
then in your heart
you'll be marked for life







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From: charles stilwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby likes veggie hot-dogs!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:05:30 -0700 (PDT)



--- K Bergstrom <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > You know, if I were Moby and I ready this list
> often I would just sit and
>
> > laugh.  Especially when people here pick and
> analyze to death every
> single
> > word he says.  Can't anything be taken for face
> value?  Moby says this
> Moby
> > says that.  Granted this list is intended to
> discuss Moby related items,
> but
> > come on.  There has been so much chest pounding
> and reading between the
> > lines here over what I feel was probably an aside
> in the interview.
>
> i agree. we're obsessing a *little* too much here.
> but it would be really
> amusing if moby DID read all the weird tangents we
> get off on...  i've
> always had the idea that if for some reason i was
> famous and there were
> mailing lists and websites devoted to me (ego trip!
> ego trip!) i'd log on
> under an assumed name and start rumors about myself,
> pretending to be a
> fan.  hehehe...
>
> >
> > It is great everyone likes to discuss Moby here,
> but stop picking so
> deep.
> >
>
> but isnt' that what fans are supposed to do? over
> analyze things until we
> reach the point of insanity?  wasn't it in can't
> hardly wait (good movie!)
> they talked about barry manalo fans obsessing over
> the song mandy, which
> turns out to be about his dog? i dunno...  i guess
> its our job.  we're
> allowed to go a little insane when it comes to da
> man...
>
> > What if Moby said he likes hot-dogs?  I can
> already see the anti-vegan,
> > homo-erotic, freudian directions the conversation
> would take.
> >
>
> hey! i like (vegetarian) hotdogs! don't diss em!
> its good conviencence
> food, especially during exams!!!
>
> > I am babbling here, I just think it is rather
> silly how EVERYTHING is
> > analyzed and analyzed to the point of obsurdity.
>
> hey well i tend to babble as well... we're all
> allowed to babble...
> considering how much time i spend answering and
> reading email, my brain is
> mush... so babble is all that comes out sometimes...
>
> anyway, i just thought i'd put in my two cents, as
> i've been silent for a
> little while. one of these days i'll finish my "you
> know you're an
> obsessive moby fan" list and post it... but with a
> test like that, i think
> we'd all fail it ;)
>
> peace.
>
> -kelly
>
>

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From: charles stilwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby likes veggie hot-dogs!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:15:48 -0700 (PDT)



--- K Bergstrom <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > You know, if I were Moby and I ready this list
> often I would just sit and
>
> > laugh.  Especially when people here pick and
> analyze to death every
> single
> > word he says.  Can't anything be taken for face
> value?  Moby says this
> Moby
> > says that.  Granted this list is intended to
> discuss Moby related items,
> but
> > come on.  There has been so much chest pounding
> and reading between the
> > lines here over what I feel was probably an aside
> in the interview.
>
> i agree. we're obsessing a *little* too much here.
> but it would be really
> amusing if moby DID read all the weird tangents we
> get off on...  i've
> always had the idea that if for some reason i was
> famous and there were
> mailing lists and websites devoted to me (ego trip!
> ego trip!) i'd log on
> under an assumed name and start rumors about myself,
> pretending to be a
> fan.  hehehe...
>
> >
> > It is great everyone likes to discuss Moby here,
> but stop picking so
> deep.
> >
>
> but isnt' that what fans are supposed to do? over
> analyze things until we
> reach the point of insanity?  wasn't it in can't
> hardly wait (good movie!)
> they talked about barry manalo fans obsessing over
> the song mandy, which
> turns out to be about his dog? i dunno...  i guess
> its our job.  we're
> allowed to go a little insane when it comes to da
> man...
>
> > What if Moby said he likes hot-dogs?  I can
> already see the anti-vegan,
> > homo-erotic, freudian directions the conversation
> would take.
> >
>
> hey! i like (vegetarian) hotdogs! don't diss em!
> its good conviencence
> food, especially during exams!!!
>
> > I am babbling here, I just think it is rather
> silly how EVERYTHING is
> > analyzed and analyzed to the point of obsurdity.
>
> hey well i tend to babble as well... we're all
> allowed to babble...
> considering how much time i spend answering and
> reading email, my brain is
> mush... so babble is all that comes out sometimes...
>
> anyway, i just thought i'd put in my two cents, as
> i've been silent for a
> little while. one of these days i'll finish my "you
> know you're an
> obsessive moby fan" list and post it... but with a
> test like that, i think
> we'd all fail it ;)
>
> peace.
>
> -kelly
>
> UHHHH! WHO CARES!!not to start shit but i just joined this list-so
what better way to start!! did anybody see the tour a few years back
were moby got up on his kb's during thousand and got naked-were he
preached through the hole show about not judging people!! have you read
the insides of the cd's. just love the music-love life-love people...
and go on about your life in a way that will do the least harm to the
planet and its inhabitants..and see what happens. but who fuckin cares
about dise ting everything the man has said...the most important thing
i've heard him say over and over is to seek personal happiness:) thats
were i'm at!!!

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From: charles stilwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OK
Date: 26 Apr 1999 21:13:08 -0700 (PDT)



--- Mike <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > Is there one person on this list besides me who
> just listens to Moby's
> music
> > because they like it? They don't pick apart the
> songs, count the beats,
> find
> > meanings in the words, get moved by the sound,
> inspired by his essays,
> care
> > what he thinks or how he acts, and if they saw him
> on the street would
> just
> > say Hi, I like your stuff and I have a lot of it?
> Anyone? I am starting to
> > fell bad that I have about 40 dif Moby CDs and
> just like it for the music.
> > Period. Tell me there is someone else out there.
> Someone who can listen to
> the
> > music while eating a hamburger and driving your
> car alone just cruising
> with
> > no where to go? I mean, anyone? I love what you
> guys have to say, which is
> the
> > reason I am on this list. But I just don't care,
> you know? It is music -
> to me
> > at least.
>
> Ah, that's how I am with Moby.  Toss Moby in the cd
> player and just drive,
> watchin' the scenary flow by along w/ the beautiful
> music.  I like to drift
> out at night listening to some of him.  Even just
> playing it in the
> background while I write a paper, Moby's music is
> always good.
>
> I've never been one to deconstruct music, aside from
> lyrics occasionally.
> It never really occured to me.  However, I love the
> views that are presented
> on this list.  What makes them great is just that -
> these views of the music
> never occur to me.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> If you know the truth
> down for the fight
> then in your heart
> you'll be marked for life
>
>
> Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!bout time!!

>
>
>

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From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Not To Burst In...
Date: 26 Apr 1999 23:18:11 -0500

At 09:08 PM 4/26/99 -0600, Kitty Watermelon wrote:
>
>Then, yesterday, I picked up a book my step
>dad had checked out of the library, a collection of interviews with
>various artists.

What was the book?

--Ade.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) OK
Date: 26 Apr 1999 23:57:05 -0500 (CDT)

I think I would prolly fall into the category of "just lovin' the music."  I'm
not into the whole animal rights, vegan, sexuality, etc stuff.  I just love
MOBY'S music for what it is, and I love his live performances too.

You are not alone.  And that is good.

andy

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From: "Daniel Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Rolling Stone
Date: 26 Apr 1999 22:47:03 PDT

Hey

in the new issue of Rolling Stone, Everything is Wrong is listed as one
of the essential albums of the '90s.

oh, and damien... when are you gonna update the profiles page?

peace,

dan Lee


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From: "Daniel Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby vs. Matos
Date: 26 Apr 1999 22:52:03 PDT

Michael, I'm really interested in hearing more about that Moby
interview you did... what did you ask him?
    Also, do your reviews get published in anything I'd know? How can
I get ahold of some of them? I've come to respect your opinion a lot.

Oh, and Kristy, what's the scoop with those ILTS posters you said you
had?

Greg, any news from the land of Thanks 2?

That's about it...

dan lee


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) OK
Date: 26 Apr 1999 23:44:12 EDT



I just listen to the music. I also really enjoy him live. That's about it
though.

- Jayson



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From: 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: I'm still here. Face It is fucking excellent.
Date: 27 Apr 1999 11:56:13 +0100


      'cos I only have access to e-mail in free periods at college, =
when
I have any time, I don't mail much and am about 4 days behind.=20
Quotes from, sod it, I can't remember.
>=A0=A0=A0 NOt only that song, but FACE IT is a really great song. I =
love how
MOBY just jams on the guitar for about 5 minutes at the end of that
song. ROCK ON MOBY!=20

=A0=A0=A0=A0 Yeh, I love that song so much, and so do all my friends =
who've
heard it. But am I the only person not to have seen Moby live? Even a
friend's seen him ( Leeds breeze 98, I think) who isn't even a fan.

> Say, anyone heard FACE IT live?? He didn't play it the two times I=20
saw him.

    I really want to see that live as well. But I got the DJ at a Rock
Night last Friday to play the live version off AR: Live At The Splash
Club. ( I love that DJ, he plays any rock CDs we give him) At that
volume it did sound so much better, and I already loved it. One friend
said " That song is fucking excellent".  I ached the day after 'cos I
tried to dive across the dance floor when the heavy bit starts. Or the
other 3 hours and 55 minutes of rock night might be why I ache. ( =
played
something by Stalingrad as well) Still, I'm happy now, it keeps me =
going
till I finally see him live. Hope he is at Leeds Breeze 99, but I have
work and need money so much so probably will have to miss it.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=20
    Oh, I've got Run On. I like Run On a bit, but if it wasn't be Moby =
I
probably wouldn't. Spirit, cool, that is fucking cool. Running, nah, =
bit
too dark I think, good music, just not my kind of music. I'll get the
one with Sunday and er, the other one today. Only cost =A31.99 anyway.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=20
   Sorry for misquoting Tim, er, I can't remember who I was quoting =
then

   Oh, last thing ( sorry I go on,) I liked it when we got stickers =
sent
to us. I suppose it's cheaper to send postcards to the fans, but I
really like stickers, call it a fetish if you like.


Ah well, bye.



TOM

" The race is long, and in the end it's only with yourself"
Everyone Is Free To Wear Sunscream. Listen to it on Chriss Moyles show
on the morning.





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From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Not To Burst In...
Date: 27 Apr 1999 06:02:40 -0600 (MDT)

    The book I read was called "Inside the Music," by Dimitri Elrich.
It also had an interview with Leonard Cohen, which was surprisingly
boring...anyways.  ^_^;
                            pickle
                [e-mail]
         "If you let your spirit out, where would it go?"




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From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Not To Burst In...
Date: 27 Apr 1999 06:12:49 -0600 (MDT)

I meant to type *hide* Dimitri Ehrlich *hehe*hide* sorry ^_^;
                [e-mail]
         "If you let your spirit out, where would it go?"




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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Rolling Stone
Date: 27 Apr 1999 07:09:29 -0600

Daniel Lee wrote:
>
> Hey
>
> in the new issue of Rolling Stone, Everything is Wrong is listed as one
> of the essential albums of the '90s.
>
> oh, and damien... when are you gonna update the profiles page?


Ugh, how embarrassing... this week, I'm making it a promise.  :)


d a m i a n.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: I'm still here. Face It is fucking excell
Date: 27 Apr 1999 09:03:10 -0700

     =

     Tom (or anyone else):
     =

     Do you know a web site I can order the UK Single of Run-On from the =

     states? I am having a problem waiting and I have not seen an import =

     single of it at any shops around Boston.
     =

     - Jayson


______________________________ Reply Separator __________________________=
_______
    Oh, I've got Run On. I like Run On a bit, but if it wasn't be Moby I
     probably wouldn't. Spirit, cool, that is fucking cool. Running, nah,=
 =

     bit too dark I think, good music, just not my kind of music. I'll ge=
t =

     the one with Sunday and er, the other one today. Only cost =A31.99 =

     anyway. =A0
     =

     =





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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: I'm still here. Face It is fucking excellent.
Date: 27 Apr 1999 14:23:40 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

First of all, I'm sorry for giving you a hard time Bart.
But you can see how the misunderstanding arose.

By the way I did lie about 'Play' being released here
yesterday (like I lied about Moby and what an interesting
response it had. Wow, some narrow-minded bigots certainly
came out of the closet, eh?). For some bizarre reason I
thought 'Run on' was released March 29th and 'Play' on
April 26th!? It's just you guys going on about the single
all the time confused me!

No, I'm just 'Play - ing' with all you hardnut homophobes
(not funny I know, but just couldn't resist). Sorry to
disappoint you, but he did actually say he did it with guys
too.

Well Mr. Kloehr, you do have a right to an opinion and free
speech, but you basically displayed complete ignorance with
regard to being gay. I mean I, at least, try to imagine
what it's like to be heterosexual and understand. Just cause
you have feelings for just the opposite sex, doesn't mean
everyone does. You obviously don't have the capacity or
intelligence to comprehend anything beyond your own
experience. I can say, I know me better than you know me.
And I know what I feel. I didn't choose it - whether it's
genetic or psychological is irrelevant. And some people can
eat pussy AND suck dick. Others only eat pussy and others
only suck dick. Some others prefer dick, but don't mind the
odd bit of pussy and vice versa - do you get the picture
now? Probably not, but it might be worth a try?

I love Face IT too. And we all got a lot to Face, but it's
a shame that people have to just pack up and go because
they can't Face It and have a reasonable discussion. This
list is about communication and discussion and the topic
did start with Moby. I have to face the critical
examination of every bpm that's occasionally discussed here
which I find particularly tedious, but I don't leave in a
drama-queen tantrum because it isn't about what I want to
hear (though I know many would probably wish I did - well
tough shit coz I'm not, unless Damian steps in!). I have
learnt from what others have said, though it's not of major
interest to me.

Reason and understanding - peace,

TMB



----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: I'm still here. Ordering "Run On"
Date: 27 Apr 1999 08:36:59 -0600

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>      Tom (or anyone else):
>
>      Do you know a web site I can order the UK Single of Run-On from the
>      states? I am having a problem waiting and I have not seen an import
>      single of it at any shops around Boston.


Well I know HMV UK (http://www.hmv.co.uk/) is offering ONE of the
singles for 1.99 British Pounds, not including shipping.  As for the
other one, you might be able to get it at regular price which at HMV can
range from 2.99 - 4.99.  But you can't get the second one through their
web site, you'd have to call direct or send a fax.  :(

Oof, now that I think of it, the web site's been acting up when it comes
to purchases... at least in my case.  Is anyone else having problems,
maybe it's just me?  Please let me know!

Also, when it comes to other releases... HMV doesn't offer a big
selection online but they do better when it comes to direct mail order.
I wonder when Mute will offer it on their web site?  They tend to hold
back a few weeks to help give it a better chart placing.  Okay, now I'm
running on and probably haven't helped at all.  I need some sleep.

Damian



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From: "Russ Reed" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) profile stuff
Date: 27 Apr 1999 07:58:49 -0700

Name: Russ Reed

Age: 20

Moby Collection: Rare, Everything is Wrong, Animal                  Rights, I Like to Score, Early                  Underground

1st Time Hearing Moby: I heard "thats when i reach for                        my revolver" on the radio about                        2 or 3 years ago and went out                        and bought animal rights. im not                        really sure what happened after                        that. i just went out and                        started buying every moby cd i                        could find.

Other artists i like: guster, sleater-kinney, jets to                       brazil, phish, bad religion,                       jimmy eat world, portishead,                       tricky, the propellerheads,                       weezer, nerfherder, the promise                       ring, air, tilt, ben folds five,
                      blah blah blah, i could go on                       forever. . . .

Interests: i like photography, frisbee, kicking my car            because its a piece of crap, going to see            live music(ive yet to see moby, had a chance            last year but i missed it for uncontrolled            reasons and im pissed and will tell you            about it if you ask me).


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) misunderstood kohut.
Date: 27 Apr 1999 17:49:58 MET

This is going to be an explanation of things i (in a very high mood and there-
for very quickly) wrote as my reaction, when i heard that moby had come out as
bisexual. Especially Xaq should read this, because it's very bad to be
misunderstood.

first, what's easy to explain. i asked if someone could type in  or scan the
interview to a text file so that everybody could read it. actually i wrote so
that i could read it. it's because i live in slovakia. (somewhere between
germany and russia.) and it is impossible to buy here ANY foreign magazine
(except some special DJ, SKate, Rockclimb or that kinda magazines). and not
at all ANY Gay magazine (expect one slovak one, where there will definitely
NOT be an interview with moby). so it's not a question of me being too shy to
ask for a gaymag. i've been shy to do that only once, the first time.
second, and this is gonna be a hardwork for me, to assemble the notsowellknown
english words so that they make sense.
i've had a feeling about moby that he might be gay for a long time ago. i didn't
mean to say that the straight people are not open or sensitive. Blame on me, i
confess, it might have seemed so. but it's not that.
i got this feeling when i read moby's sleeve notes, heard him speaking, saw his
pictures full of melancholy and (i don't know the english word, i guess it's)
tenderness. it was not any logical conclusion like 80%sensitivity plus 67%being
open equals 100%being bisexual. it was an impression, a feeling a thought. many
feelings travel through my inside when i just think of him, and this was one of
them. and that's why i felt so happy about that, because it was a feature,
which i had in my heart connected to him, though it was not sure. it's like
when you watch a movie and you expect some certain end. and the end is
precisely like that. and you feel very well.
maybe it was just an accident, but the pictures of moby and photos he took,
that time reflected my own mood, so i linked it somehow to the feeling of moby
being homosexual.
"i promise now my judge and jurors, my intentions couldn't have been purer,
my case is easy to see."

and the note about converting the interview was addressed to Tim Beecher, i
guess it was you, Tim, who brought the news here.

p.s. the people here are as hostile to differences as in any other country,
i guess. sure, in small towns or that kinda, it is a social suicide to claim
yourself a gay or lesbian or whatsoever, but in cities, you can just drown into
that kind of community you like most.

thanx4reading this far, Happiness to all of you and Let The Sunshine In !!!

p.s2 excuse me for being so talkative. (but nobody forces you to read all my
weakminded craps) i need to say something.

i am quite a new member to this list, but i have already got a very nice
feeling about some special persons contributing here. i won't name them, but i
want to say, that i love you all and i feel very close to you. if moby were
worth nothing, this would be the thing that would make him worth much.

love.

kohut. :)



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby vs. Matos
Date: 27 Apr 1999 11:28:55 PDT

Daniel Lee wrote:

>Michael, I'm really interested in hearing more about that Moby
>interview you did... what did you ask him?
>    Also, do your reviews get published in anything I'd know? How can
>I get ahold of some of them?

I did the interview this past Friday, it lasted about a half hour, I didn't prepare questions (very unprofessional), but it went fine. I probably won't get around to transcribing the interview for awhile--the album isn't out for another month, and he's not touring till July or August, so that's when it'll run. I will probably do two very different pieces based on it, one for Creative Loafing in Atlanta, and another for Mpls City Pages. I'm anticipating that the ATL will be a straight Q&A and the Mpls will be a profile with quotes. They sort of have to be different, because CP is pretty strict about reprinting stuff that runs in it.

I did find out some great stuff, though. He's usually disappointed by outside remixers' work on his tracks ("I spend so much time when I do remixes, and it seems like other people just bang them out"), he's planning a Play remix album (EIW-M&R-style) for next year and will be doing a DJ tour for it (these are tentative), and I thought this was interesting: he doesn't really hang out with musicians. His friends are normal people and he likes it that way.

More later, and thanks.

Matos

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) profile stuff/gossip
Date: 27 Apr 1999 20:42:26 +0200

First of all, welcome to the list Russ!
You've just missed our sexual preference discussion
(or flame war) on the list.  I hope this message is one
of the last messages on that subject. We usually have
nice Moby related conversations. Feel free to ask questions!

Tim Beecher wrote:
>First of all, I'm sorry for giving you a hard time Bart.
>But you can see how the misunderstanding arose.


Hey, it was my own fault. I should have used other words.

>Well Mr. Kloehr, you do have a right to an opinion and free
>speech, but you basically displayed complete ignorance with
>regard to being gay. I mean I, at least, try to imagine
>what it's like to be heterosexual and understand. Just cause
>you have feelings for just the opposite sex, doesn't mean
>everyone does. You obviously don't have the capacity or
>intelligence to comprehend anything beyond your own
>experience.

I want to say one thing. Chris Kloehr ( that's your name, right?)
I hope you haven't left the list for this. You were just being HONEST.
Nowadays, (at least where I live) saying that you don't understand
that some people have another sexual preference takes more guts
than admitting you're gay or something.
Even though I don't agree with you, I still think it was brave thing to just
give your honest opinion, knowing that you would be flamed to death
for it.

Tim, you say that you tried to understand what it's like to be heterosexual.
You were lucky enough to understand other sexual preferences. Well, I
often tried to imagine what it's like to be homosexual. I did not succeed...
Does that make me what you call a ">hardnut homophobe"?  I hope not.
I do not 'understand' homosexuals, but I do respect them.
I don't judge people on a thing like sexual preference or skin colour, I
judge them as a human being.

"Understanding" is really difficult. For example: A guy in a wheelchair goes
to his psychiatrist and tells him that he wants to commit suicide because he
feels that everybody is looking at him like he's a freak.
The psychiatrist wants to talk the man out of it. The worst thing he can say
now is I UNDERSTAND your position, because he CAN'T! How could
the psychiatrist with the beautiful wife, the huge car and the two fine
leggs understand the man in the wheelchair? (I'm not comparing a 'good'
and a 'bad' thing, but just two opposites.)

The same with sexual preference.
I'm not saying that you absolutely CAN'T understand people with other sexual
preferences but that you must consider yourself very lucky if you really
can.
I don't agree with Chris's view too, and I think he should have been more
tactfulgiving his opinion about a sensitive subject like sexual preference,
but who am I (and who are you) to condemn him for this?

Finally, to prevent me from being misunderstood again:
- The wheelchair thing is just an example, please don't feel offended
  in any way.
- I do not have anything against psychiatrists.
- I do not want to flame Tim Beecher, just giving my opinion....
- I do not agree with Chris Kloehr's view, I repect his view being different
  from mine.
- I hope this list will soon get some nice MUSIC conversations again.

Peace to everybody!

Bart van Eijck

---------------------
Tip of the day:
Moby - Go (Low Spirit Mix)






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2
Date: 27 Apr 1999 14:47:53 EDT

i just bought the new underworld cd and i noticed that it is distributed by
V2 records...is this record company known for distributing dance albums or is
this fairly recent..elie..by the way..i guarantee you that Moby will be at
WOODSTOCK 99...



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From: "krwilson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Rolling stone's review of Moby sucked!
Date: 27 Apr 1999 14:43:50 -0600

Here is the disgusting blurb from Rolling stone about my FAVORITE cd:

"Moby's first major-label album didn't seem promising at first- a bald
little techno dude trying his arty hand at pop-song form, new-age movie
music, and blues-metal guitar.  But Everything is Wrong turned out to be
one amazing record, mixing up styles with earnest curiosity and that rarest
of techno-dude traits, a sense of humor.  'Feeling so Real' and 'Everytime
you touch me' are stunning disco(?) anthems, while the mellow passages roam
from Eno-like lyricism to classical gas.  Moby buzzes with excitement, a
christian club kid who can't stop raving about the DJ  who saved his life
last night and can't wait to tell the story in sounds."

If you couldn't tell, this totally pisses me off, but then again- Rolling
stone doesn't understand electronic music.  This "bald little techno dude"
is the most unbelieveable person whose incredible compassion and empathy
are easily seen even from LINER NOTES.  DJ shadow got a bigger spread than
MOBY!  I like DJ shadow, but c'mon!  His music rarely if ever touches my
soul.  The only Drum 'n' bass producer that DOES touch my soul is Rob
Haigh(Omni Trio).  I don't count Aphex twin and Mu-ziq 'cause they aren't
strictly drum 'n' bass.

Hope everyone enjoys reading this.

MO



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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2
Date: 27 Apr 1999 15:30:28 -0400 (EDT)

Seriously?  Moby will be at Woodstock 99?  I was going to get tickets but
there was nobody I really really wanted to see...(although there are a lot
of great bands.) But if MOBY is going to be there....is he performing or
just roaming around?  Where did you get this info? Please get back to
me!!!!  This is good news!!!!
thanx in advance,

danielle

On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> i just bought the new underworld cd and i noticed that it is distributed by
> V2 records...is this record company known for distributing dance albums or is
> this fairly recent..elie..by the way..i guarantee you that Moby will be at
> WOODSTOCK 99...
>
>




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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) milkshake surprise
Date: 27 Apr 1999 12:32:15 PDT

http://www.rollingstone.com/content/artists/M/Moby/images/IM008532.JPG

  Hello everybody!

  The split single coming up from V2 is pretty neat looking. The cover
shows both of the recent UK #1 CDs sitting on a wood surface.
(maybe a new workbench?) (orange pumpkin cover, mousetrap w/ red
background cover) You can see the grain and the knots in the wood
clearly. The Honey single is on top, in the center, and the Run On
single is on the bottom, also center. In the upper left it says 2XMOBY
is big letters, and HONEY RUN ON is smaller letters underneath. The
letters are all in the new Moby block font, and all are also black
except for MOBY which is brown.

  The CD itself is chocolate brown, (milk not dark) and the copyright
info & MOBY are in strawberry milkshake pink. HONEY RUN ON is in
white. (vanilla, perhaps?)

  Maybe that remix album for Play that Moby has mentioned should be
called FOOD. Better yet, FLAVOR. There's Honey, (pumpkin pie, pumpkin
seeds) Run On, (ketchup & mustard), and now the split single.
(chocolate, strawberry, & vanilla)

  For those of you who have already bought both Honey & Run On UK CDs,
this CD still has something of interest to you. Sharam Jey's Sweet
Honey mix was previously only on 12", and the Moby Young & Funky Mix
of Run On was only on a promo CD and the commercial release 12" which
came out yesterday. Also, Sharam Jey's Always On The Run mix is
otherwise only on the German 12", which also released yesterday. It's
nice to see these mixes on CD, because so many great remixes get lost
in obscurity because of vinyl only releases.

1. Honey (Album Mix) 3:27
2. Honey (Moby's 118 Mix) 4:48
3. Honey (Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix)6:41
4. Honey (Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix) 6:21
5. Run On (extended) 4:25
6. Run On (Moby's Young & Funky Mix) 6:03
7. Run On (Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix) 5:59
8. Memory Gospel 9:03

Oh yeah, it's got a little Play sticker on the cellophane.

The Honey / Run On 12" doesn't have a picture sleeve, unlike the UK
12"s. Theres a big sticker along the top, though, and it's in a
silver/white/grey V2 sleeve. It feels like a 180 gram pressing, it's
very thick and heavy vinyl. It has the same color scheme on the
sticker (the milkshake flavor/colors) and it also has the same little
PLAY in stores June 1 sticker that the CD has.

I'll review the CD soon, it'll be a lengthy post.

-Steve

Nature
To each his own
Mutual respect

PS The energy at the Underworld concert last night was INTENSE!





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From: Electronic Pulse Info <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On Review...
Date: 27 Apr 1999 14:30:39 -0500

Hi all..

We put up a review on Run On today, it can be found @

http://www.electronicpulse.com/reviews/

Also, seeing that a few ppl. on the list have spoken to moby, is there
an real news on a tour?  I'm not speaking about the 'dj' thing he does,
rather, an actual tour?

Cheers!
Bri
--
http://www.electronicpulse.com

Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!
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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) profile stuff/gossip
Date: 27 Apr 1999 14:34:25 -0500

    >I want to say one thing. Chris Kloehr ( that's your name, right?)
    >I hope you haven't left the list for this. You were just being
HONEST.

No I have not left the list....My love for the music is too great.  And hey-
we all have room to improve, right? (pointing to myself)

    >I don't agree with Chris's view too, and I think he should have
been more
    >tactfulgiving his opinion about a sensitive subject like sexual
preference,
    >but who am I (and who are you) to condemn him for this?

Thank you...and I agree, it was definately the wrong way to go about this.
Obviously I should have stayed lurking in the shadows....


    CK

    np: Cassius "Supa Crush"






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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Peace offering..........
Date: 27 Apr 1999 21:02:35 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Okay, I think we've all had enough of this subject now.

I don't mind Chris saying he didn't understand, Bart. But I
think small-mindedness should be condemned and I don't
think it's very 'brave' as you put it. It's easy to
condemn people who are different though. It was insulting
to me anyways. I was wrong to retaliate, but I also wanted
to try to get some understanding because many people have
completely the wrong idea and condemn gay people to hell
for it! That's what really pisses me off. It's not too hard
to understand when you try and listen.

However, I accept Chris' apology and if he's not too scared
to write to me in private, then I can try and explain (if
he wants to understand). But if he doesn't want to, then
that's fine too. We've still got freedom of choice, I hope?

TMB



----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]




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From: "the bergstroms" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2
Date: 27 Apr 1999 16:02:08 -0700


> i just bought the new underworld cd and i noticed that it is distributed
by
> V2 records...is this record company known for distributing dance albums
or is
> this fairly recent..elie..by the way..i guarantee you that Moby will be
at
> WOODSTOCK 99...

really? he's not on the list of performers...
i was planning on going anyway.  i want to see rage and the hip and a few
others... but this will make it even better.  keep us posted!

-kelly



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From: "tommy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) um...
Date: 27 Apr 1999 16:52:53 -0500

hi there.
so i was bored again and i made a moby cursor that is like the one on the
http://moby.org/fans.html except i made it for a winamp skin i've been
working on for a long time only i found that winamp does not support
animated cursors.  imo, the cursor is cool as hellfrozovr.  it's green. it's
the old moby logo.   when it spins there are lighting effects that make it
reflect lighter and darker it looks and is very 3d.  made it with xara3d,
macromedia flash, & some randomly downloaded icon makin program.  it was
made with the technobats font i downloaded a while back from some NIN page.
if you downloaded the oldr cursor and use it i suggest you look at the one
i've made.
it is a zipped/animated cursor about 16kb.
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/manicur.zip
i have yet to make a web page to host it.

i'm very curious as to thanks II's what and whenabouts.  the track i
submitted or mentioned i'm not so sure is very worthy a track for me to
submit so i retract it.  to i think about it i made it in only a few hours
(0k maybe like five) because i remember having said i would submit a track
and that i haven't followed up on it at least as some may have noticed or
not.  it dont convey the respect i have for his work.  it is the first track
that i have actually "finished".
if you haven't heard it or downloaded it and are considering-
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/gu-hymn.mp3
i'm going to remove it from my server in a day or two.  of course i would
like to hear opinions on it even if you think it is no thing.  hell.  just
if you like it or not?  you can add it to the bottom of your post to
mobility  or a short personal?  it would probably mean a lot to me.

i have heard nothing of thanks II in a while.  i know that Ade is still
accepting cover/insert art submissions @:
http://picard.anderson.edu/~adekunle/mobility/

personally i dont mind at all how long this is taking.  it gives me a chance
to make something better for it.  as time passes i'm growing more and more
when it comes to music more then i can believe sometimes-much thanks to MOBY
and this list.
so?..
is anybody willing to talk about tracks they're thinkin' about submitting?
have any samples.  i really want to hear something or see that somebody
still has t2 or maybe even 3 on their minds.

---
i can't wait to hear a longer version of Down Slow.

moby's growing up i think.  the beauty and innocence or feeling he can
convey is amazing.  i can't wait to hear music of his if/when\after he has a
kid.

hasta--
tommy



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) OK
Date: 27 Apr 1999 17:50:26 EDT

In a message dated 4/26/99 9:08:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Is there one person on this list besides me who just listens to Moby's
music
 because they like it? >>

    I'm with you a 100% on this one. Sure, i read the liners, but then i
go eat a hamburger. It just so happens that I saw Moby at the House of Blues
and really liked his music and started to buy his CD's. I really think that
some people on this list read too deeply into his music, but hey, why not? If
someone enjoys it and can do it, more power to them. I know that I don't post
very often, and it's because I don't analyze his music and/or lifestyle. I
think that people should just chill out, turn off the lights, lay down, and
enjoy Moby's music for what it is, music, really great music.
Thanks
Andrew



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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame wars"...
Date: 27 Apr 1999 16:28:25 -0700 (PDT)



> Feel free to flame away.
> Matos

Yo Matos,
You are the man!!!!
Any one who has to take the shit that Chris is dealing
out of his arse, has got to be stupid!
Man what does it matter if your gay or stright you are
here for one reason and one reason only.
The way that I see it gay bashing (which is what I saw
this as), can only lead to hurt and as we have seen in
the past the passing of a person who has done no harm
to you at all.  You know it kills me how some people
will stand up for some of the things that Moby says
and writes about and then back down when they dont see
it PC to agree.
Hey Chris FUCK YOU, man I have seen bigger brains come
from my cat.
Have a nice life, Karma catches up mighty quick.

Bri
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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hello.
Date: 27 Apr 1999 17:08:25 -0700 (PDT)

i've been kistening since last night but couldnt get
my
emails to post. when i do - i have something to say to
you freakin' people.

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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) alright!!!!!!!
Date: 27 Apr 1999 17:11:55 -0700 (PDT)

i'm in!! and i meant listening. look out-i'm typin up
that message for you now.


peace. love.

christian
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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) what are you people doing????
Date: 27 Apr 1999 18:13:50 -0700 (PDT)


as i stated in previous post-i have been listening
since last night....and i am blown away!! you are not
getting it!!

ok-i'll get back to that. but first, a little about
who
i am and what lead me to this list.
i have been listening to moby since way back..i bought
the go 12" singles as they came out. i obsessed over
the mans music for years. up until animal rights-and
then i lost interest. mostly i think because i just
needed a moby break-but partly becasue i just didnt
like it as much as anything else he had done.  still
have'nt purchased i like to score either-i have a lot
of it already. but i heard honey and loved it-and have
now purchased run on(spirit is dope!!!) and love it
too. wjile listening to these songs i remembered how
much i loved mobys' music. i searched for moby on my
yahoo! and ended up here!! were i hope to have many
wonderful discussions about both moby's  music and the
social issues which seem to be circulating around this
list.

NOW!!!!!back to the real issue here.

i am a 27 year old white heterosexual male. who
happened to get involved with a group of girls(women
now). who like to have sex with women. but
occasionally -the like to have a man(i.e. dick). that
would be me. now this lead me to try the occasional
dick myself. this has,not happened in years. and i am
still very close friends(or lover) with many of the
people involved. some of the people involved couldnt
handle it and they moved on-happily:) which is my
point-HAPPINESS!! all i see you people doing is
pointing out why your way or your view or your opinion
is better. and thats not the fuckin point. the point
is that our planet is going to shit. global
warming-deforistation-over population-landfills are
full and most of the people on this planet dont have a
clue how to recycle/reuse properly. there are hundreds
if not thousands of excuses people use to be
prejudiced-the last thing we need to be doing is
tearing each other apart for something that we do(for
the most part)in the privacy of our own homes. this
huge discussion you guys(i would use names but i dont
know everyone-or anyone-yet)have been having is all
finger pointing. turn that finger around and look at
yourself......

we all(including myself-i am not trying to be holier
than thou here)need to try and be more understanding
of all people. race,creed,color,sex,"sexual
orientation",social class(and any other stupid way you
can think of to seperate us) should not be an issue.
we are all human beings!!! wether or not someone(male
0R FEMALE!) takes it in the butt should have nothing
to do with how you deal with that person on a
individual basis(unless, of course,  you want to put
it in there butt).  we need to spend more time dealing
with the real issues involved in saving our planet so
that in the future there will still be a planet to
hang around on.

ok-so enough of that shit! lets be happy:) shall we!

lets talk some moby people! there is a certain vibe
about certain moby songs that gives me that certain
funny feeling inside. love to discuss this if anyone
is interested. shining-next is the e-gmotfotw-would be
three examples-all different in style-but there all
vibin'

also to respond to some of the other things i've read.
rolling stone doesnt know shit about shit
anymore!!whatever is popular is what there talking
about this week. and if they do cover something other
than mainstream rock/pop-they usually sound lame!!

that same person mentioned moby touching there soul-i
would like to throw orbital in there-the new album is
grand-check it! some orb. bjork bjork bjork!!!!!

and richard d james. not just for his stuff-but for
bringing the entire rephlex posse to the universe!!
liela makes me cry-buy her stuff. and global goon-good
stuff!

ok-if you read this far-THANKS!!! i hope to talk to
many of you for a good time to come!

right now i am at work:( wil be here until 9:00 pm pst
if anybody has time to respond this evening.

peace. love.

christian

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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) what are you people doing????
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:07:25 +0900

Hey Christian, great to have you, but do us all a favor and cool it with the
two prepost-posts that are alluding to what are coming ahead. That would be
great. And you don'thave to fix your spelling mistakes either.
Anyway, yea, the new Orbital is really good, but for me it is missing some
finishing touch. I don't know what it is. I still like Green / 1 and Brown / 2
the best. Anyway, I am going to see if the Run On has made it over to Japan
yet, as it seems to be getting decent reviews. But anyway, I am sure you will
fit in here Christian, so don't be shy (apparently your not) but don't go
crazy either. Later.
AJ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2
Date: 27 Apr 1999 22:02:41 EDT

i didn't say he was gonna be there...i just said that i almost guarantee you
guys he'll be there..i don't know why i have that feeling...elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) what are you people doing????
Date: 27 Apr 1999 22:33:36 EDT



I'm with ya Christian. I think ...

WHat is a great classic Moby song that "rocks my boat" & made me want to buy
MOBY and more MOBY was the "Next is the E" (I feel IT mix) or (club mix).
That stuff makes me feel great. I had originally heard the Cool World version
and thought it was OK, but these versions I mentioned kick butt in a major
way.

- Jayson



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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame wars"...
Date: 27 Apr 1999 22:39:14 -0400 (EDT)



On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, BRIAN HOVEY wrote:

> Hey Chris FUCK YOU, man I have seen bigger brains come
> from my cat.
> Have a nice life, Karma catches up mighty quick


Exactly my friend. Let's be tolerant of one another.  We don't have to
agree with everyone's opinions....but express your own and respect
others'.

peace,

danielle







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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:re:re:re:
Date: 27 Apr 1999 20:07:41 -0700 (PDT)

hey when i want to resp to someone elses posting-do i
reply to there posting directly by clicking the reply
button and adding text to the end of there message or
do i simply send another. lame ??-but i cant help
feeling i am doing something wrong. help me here..

but in reply to AJ-sorry! i was just excited and
rambling on-not paying attention if you know what i
mean. and the spelling thing has a lot to do with
work(i sit at a computer for 40-70 hours a week-and
spelling counts)and a lot to do with the fact that i'm
just anal retentive(no pun intended). but thanks for
the greating!!! and i agree tha old orbital is
better-i am just excited that theres some new stuff.
i'm hearing people say that its happier and thats the
difference in the sound.and while i think thats part
of it-i tend to lean more your direction-just not as
polished. but boy am i lookin forward to a tour-last
time around it was orbital and underworld at the
fillmore in san fran(i am in bay area)and the floor
bounced all night long-beautiful.

jayson-the first time i heard go and next is the e at
a party(rave) were life changing experiences-so much
deeper than anything that was being played at that
time and for years to come. anybody remember
that(those)damn sesame street songs. ughh! it was some
of the first music i heard on the dancefloor that i
had to find out what it was and go buy it! i'll post a
list soon of the particular moby songs tha move me and
see if anybodies got some stories they'd care to
share.

peace. love.

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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) milkshake surprise
Date: 27 Apr 1999 22:22:38 -0500

>The
>letters are all in the new Moby block font, and all are also black
>except for MOBY which is brown.

The proper name of that font is Compacta Bold, and it's the favorite font
of Portishead and The KLF.

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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) OK
Date: 27 Apr 1999 22:35:39 -0500

><< Is there one person on this list besides me who just listens to Moby's
>music
> because they like it? >>

Since I'm totally at odds with the particulars of many of his social
beliefs, I'd have to claim membership in your group. I took interest in him
because of his Christianity, but I've been extremely disappointed with the
way he conducts himself. So now it's just music to me... :\

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From: 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: Run On, old shitty reviews, and anything else.
Date: 28 Apr 1999 10:36:14 +0100


      Hellow, I've got the other Run On D now. If it's only 2 quid I
thought I might as well have both, just got some overtime in at work.
So, my l;ittle shitty mini review

Run On extended
The problem with this is that I don't think Run On deserves to be
exteneded. It's a great ahppy track that cheers you up, but doesn't have
enough to warent a longer time. Songs Like Face It should be longer,
this, no, bad idea, I think. Still god song though.
Sunday
Oh yes, now this is so good. Starts off pretty naff i though but then
it, well, it's fucking excellent. Completely fantastic, makes the whole
Cd worth it.
Down Slow ( full length)
Now I didn't like this particularly, yet my mum loved it. Ah well.

Ok, I think, if you only want to buy one CD, go for Run On, it has
Spirit on that is so fucking excellent. Otherwise, go for both actually.
We've all got different music tastes so probably like different versions
of Run On.

Anyhow, am I the only person talking about Run On at the moment? I
suppose I'll add my bit to all the crap over the past few days. Skip
over this paragraph if you are sick to fucking death of the whole
fucking thing.

I really don't give a fuck about if people are gay, if moby is gay or
whatever. For all i care he could have bondage fantasies about dressing
up as a teletubby, it doesn't effect his music, which I love. There
seeems so much missunderstanding, bitchiness and hatred here at the
moment. Just drop the fucking issue, I want to talk about Face it and
Run On at the moment. Sod it, I'll talk to myself.

Back to interesting stuff.....
Taking about shitty reviews, i read an e-magezine a while ago that had a
review of AR. They obviously had not listened to the album, going on
about hw ANILIT was the only nice quite track, while the rest was shitty
guitars. Duh, Living? LSFMM? Now, they didn't listen to it, just
critisised it for not been dance. Bastards. I love that album, it has
Face It, Soft, and so much more.

I'm converting people to Moby, slowly. Face It was played at a night
club on Rock Night last friday, people who were there are asking about
what album it's off and stuff. Cool. I love that song so much.

Spirit's cool as well.

When my messages appear onmobility they have lots of " = " sighns and
stuff. Why? It's a bugger to read.

Ok, here's a question........
There''s Run On, and Run On exteneded. If lots of people buy noth
versions, do
a) RO and ROE get in the charts
b) RO get in the charts, as buying ROE just counts as buying RO again.
just curious

Bugger, I can't get out of work to go to Glastenburry. I'm going to see
the eclipse, so I could only get a week off and am using it for that.
It'd be really cool if Moby was in Cornwall for a gig straight after the
eclipse. But he's not. Ah well.

Still typing...
Hello to all the new people, please don't be put off by all the
bitchiness at the moment, be happy.

So long

" The race is long, and in the end it's only with yourself"
Everyone Is Free To Wear Sunscream

Oh, I alsways thought on EIW the bloke say
s " some sense of rocking" and I'll carry on belieiving that no matter
if it isn't true. I like that lyric. I like how you can't hear the
lyrics in moby's songs, and here what you feel, not what he says.
don't break my illusions

TOM




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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)
Date: 28 Apr 1999 11:07:32 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

Hello Christian,

Nice to have some pleasant calming influence.

Now - I hope Moby is playing Glastonbury this year? Anyone
heard any rumours on this? Still, at least I'll be seeing
him play in May. He was the highlight of the festival for
me last year.

Ciao,

TMB

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Tim Beecher
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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) what are you people doing????
Date: 28 Apr 1999 08:57:17 -0600

AJ Brustein wrote:
>
> Hey Christian, great to have you, but do us all a favor and cool it with the
> two prepost-posts that are alluding to what are coming ahead. That would be
> great. And you don'thave to fix your spelling mistakes either.


Christian was having problems with his email making it through to the
mailing list because of server problems.  The first one was probably a
fluke or test and the second one was probably relief or excitement that
things were okay again.

Secondly, Christian... in replying to a post you can quote if you want
to but I recommend cutting or editing out anything that you are not
directly responding to.  So far you haven't used quotes and that's
worked fine too.  Do what you are comfortable with and think people will
understand.

Damian
[e-mail]
(who thinks everyone should just cut each other some slack)


BTW: has anyone found a web site that offers frequent great deals on
singles (or even albums) like HMV as I mentioned yesterday?  Nevermind
the fact that their web site seems to be funked up as of late when it
comes to purchases.  At least they have a work around that's useful.
http://www.hmv.co.uk/ (under recommended singles)



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From: [e-mail]
Date: 28 Apr 1999 17:02:55 MET

hi everybody, as i read the things you people write, i just feel sad about
what's happening outthere, i'm almost envious, because you report about how
you went to see moby playing there and there and then and then, hm....
yes, i envy you, but don't take it bad. i just want you to appreciate that
you have then chance to see a lot of good artists and to get news about them,
because if you lived somewhere like eastern europe, where there is a density
of moby fans like the one of beach volleyball champions in antarctics, you
wouldn feel a bit lonely. therefor i subscribed to this list and therefor i'm
trying to make my friends like moby and make them make their friends like him
etc.. .
hm... don't read on, if you expect any serious stuff.
i want to tell about how i brought my friends to moby. actually, they are not
as mad about him as i do, but when anyone from among them comes to see me and
there is some nasty (for their ears nasty) music playing in my room, they keep
asking me to play moby instead of that. and that's a kind of success, i think.
The girls, they enjoyed little idiot cd and then a fine step to Into the Blue
and When it's Cold I'd like to die (which is a hymn to me), and then, it was not
hard to convince them to like Next is the E, or Anthem.
The boys, well, the boys they sure like animal rights, so the development was
right the opposite to girls, from harder stuff to the mellow ones.
i feel very happy when they tell me, that they like the music. because they are
my friends and this is a part of me.
i also got to play some moby songs at a technoparty here, it started with the
james bond theme (which was a new song then), then through UHF3 and Next is the
E to a finish, which was nothing but GO mixed with the GO original version. It
was a short set, about 10 minutes, but i felt VERY HIGH, when i could just
jump around behind all the funny DJ equipment with (yee-eeh) GO making the
people sweat. i'm putting together an oldies techno party (for fanatics who
have not forgotten how Westbam, Prodigy, U96 or MOBY sound like) and i'm
looking forward the moby set, i'd olike to play there.
if anyone from you has ever played any moby songs or even mixed them, please,
i'd feel very proud to read some advices from you. (you'll get a free ticket to
the party then :) )

love peace and harmony to all of you and thanx4tolerating me.

 #^##
#:~] kohut.
 #v##

W A K E  U P  A N D  D R E A M  W I T H   M E,
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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) what are you people doing????
Date: 30 Apr 1999 00:23:06 +0900

Yo Damien, I hope that wasn't to me about cutting anyone slack. I just wanted
to help out. Anyway.
    So, today I got the Run On singles. First, I want to know this. Since I have
to pay 11 bucks for each one I really would like to know the answer. What is
the deal ith everyone latetly releasing 2 different singles of the same song?
Has this been going on for ever? BT, Moby, Aphex, Orbital, 808 State,
Faithless, Underworld, and thos are just in the last month. (And the only ones
I cared about.) Actually, I bought them all except for the 808 State. Anyone
heard that? I didn't even know they were still around.
    So anyway, Run On. Basically, it sucks. About the same level as Honey. Can't
totally remember Honey but since I don't really want to put it in, I won't
remember. I think Honey and Run on should have been conbined not on the same
single in America but into the same song. Definatly didn't need to be
extended. But, this time, just as it was with Honey, the following track is
awesome. Spirit is such a great track. I assume that it is on Play right?
Along with Micronesia (? Whichever was the good one on Honey)? The other songs
are all decent but I don't like Run On and I love Spirit. So, definatly buy
the First CD, and if you want the Extended. Actually that brings up one more
question. Why is it that that CD colors match the other CD's insert color?
Understand? The red insert one has a yellow CD that matches the yellow insert
one that has a red CD that mtches the first red insert one. You must understnd
now. Well, I do like the simple covers of Honey, Run On, and Play. Anyway, Later.
AJ



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: Icon for Moby
Date: 28 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0700


     Hey, that's great. I unzipped it, but it only rotates when I r-click
     and chose the properties option. It doesn't rotate when just hanging
     out in Windows ... why?

     - Jayson


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hi there.
so i was bored again and i made a moby cursor that is like the one on the
http://moby.org/fans.html except i made it for a winamp skin i've been
working on for a long time only i found that winamp does not support
animated cursors.  imo, the cursor is cool as hellfrozovr.  it's green. it's
the old moby logo.   when it spins there are lighting effects that make it
reflect lighter and darker it looks and is very 3d.  made it with xara3d,
macromedia flash, & some randomly downloaded icon makin program.  it was
made with the technobats font i downloaded a while back from some NIN page.
if you downloaded the oldr cursor and use it i suggest you look at the one
i've made.
it is a zipped/animated cursor about 16kb.
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/manicur.zip
i have yet to make a web page to host it.

i'm very curious as to thanks II's what and whenabouts.  the track i
submitted or mentioned i'm not so sure is very worthy a track for me to
submit so i retract it.  to i think about it i made it in only a few hours
(0k maybe like five) because i remember having said i would submit a track
and that i haven't followed up on it at least as some may have noticed or
not.  it dont convey the respect i have for his work.  it is the first track
that i have actually "finished".
if you haven't heard it or downloaded it and are considering-
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/gu-hymn.mp3
i'm going to remove it from my server in a day or two.  of course i would
like to hear opinions on it even if you think it is no thing.  hell.  just
if you like it or not?  you can add it to the bottom of your post to
mobility  or a short personal?  it would probably mean a lot to me.

i have heard nothing of thanks II in a while.  i know that Ade is still
accepting cover/insert art submissions @:
http://picard.anderson.edu/~adekunle/mobility/

personally i dont mind at all how long this is taking.  it gives me a chance
to make something better for it.  as time passes i'm growing more and more
when it comes to music more then i can believe sometimes-much thanks to MOBY
and this list.
so?..
is anybody willing to talk about tracks they're thinkin' about submitting?
have any samples.  i really want to hear something or see that somebody
still has t2 or maybe even 3 on their minds.

---
i can't wait to hear a longer version of Down Slow.

moby's growing up i think.  the beauty and innocence or feeling he can
convey is amazing.  i can't wait to hear music of his if/when\after he has a
kid.

hasta--
tommy



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) "C" is for Cookie ...
Date: 28 Apr 1999 11:04:29 -0700

     and Cookie is for me!

     Christian -

     I remember those sesame street songs from the Raves I went to in
     college. Those were the days. They don't make raves like they did in
     the early 90's anymore. 90-93

     I liked that C-is-for-cookie song. I wonder who did that? I'd probably
     try to buy it just for "old times sake".

     I did not like the "Sesame Street" rave song however. That was lame.

     BTW -
     Anyone know of any Raves in the Boston area?? Even Albany/Saratoga, NY
     area (i doubt it)??
     I wouldn't mind going to one to see what the kids are doing these
     days. You crazy kids! *hide* <-- that one is for Pickle

     - Jayson






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jayson-the first time i heard go and next is the e at
a party(rave) were life changing experiences-so much
deeper than anything that was being played at that
time and for years to come. anybody remember
that(those)damn sesame street songs. ughh! it was some
of the first music i heard on the dancefloor that i
had to find out what it was and go buy it! i'll post a
list soon of the particular moby songs tha move me and
see if anybodies got some stories they'd care to
share.

peace. love.

christian







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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #381
Date: 28 Apr 1999 09:06:42 PDT

konichiwa,

agreed.  parties were better in 'the good old days'.  much more open
mindedness.  and I remember far more diversity too.  it was at these
early 90's parties where I first heard moby, 808 state, RSW, etc.

can anyone tell me if the James Bond theme remix cd single is worth
buying?

welcome, christian.  are you in the city?  I'm currently living in
Marin.

jyane,

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) A: I am doing this.
Date: 28 Apr 1999 09:44:31 PDT

AJ wrote:
>What is
>the deal ith everyone latetly releasing 2 different singles of the
>same song?
>Has this been going on for ever?

Not forever, but for a long time. All the EIW singles were split,
remember? Into The Blue actually had 3 UK singles, since they changed
the tracklistings on #1 to cut Shining and add the Jr. Vasquez mixes.

>So anyway, Run On. Basically, it sucks. About the same level
>as Honey. Can't
>totally remember Honey but since I don't really want to put it in, I
>won't
>remember.

Sounds like you made a rush judgement on Honey and quickly forgot
about it. Ditto w/ Run On. The thing is, everybody I've heard from was
shocked and disoriented upon first hearing Run On. At first, it is
very strange. If you don't immediately discriminate against the song
elements, you'll find that both of them are REALLY GREAT SONGS! Give
them some more listens before you decide to hate them.

>I think Honey and Run on should have been conbined not on
>the same
>single in America but into the same song. Definatly didn't need to be
>extended.

Sure it needed to be extended. I like the extra harmony & synth out. I
also think the way Moby samples a little "Yup" right after the last
"god almighty gonna cut you down" at the end is funny.  H & RO
combined together? That's a silly thing to say. Unless, of course,
you're making it for Thanks 2. Imagine "All That I Need Is A Morning
Dove", or "Everytime You Feel So Real." "The Slight Return Of God
Moving Over The Face Of The Shining Sea." "Living On A Dead Walnut"
Ouch. I don't think you're going to like Natural Blues, AJ.

AJ, the track listing for Play is at moby.org, as always. Spirit and
Micronesia are not on the album. A much shorter Down Slow is on there,
however.

Welocme to the list, Christian & Russ!

Kohut, thank YOU for putting up with US! I'm glad you're helping Moby
get some exposure in Slovakia.

My friend Tom gave me a big big flyer for the Transformation party
that Moby spun at on April 17th in Ohio. I'm putting it up on my wall
next to my giant ETYM poster and my embroidered logo shirt. He also
gave me a spacer for my 7"s. Very cool, good mood.
:)

-S
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) fuck rs
Date: 28 Apr 1999 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT)

fuck rolling stone. they may have said EIW is one of the essential
albums, but they said KLF's "Justified And Ancient" was the number 1
song that they stil cant believe happened. huh???? KLF RULES!!!!!! fuck
them. of course they didnt say Goldie was essential. then again, theyve
never ever said one good thing about Goldie anyway, so fuck them.

at least they gave Beulah a good review. there new cd ROCKS.

i also would like to say that my pal dj pal Rod Richardson is a Moby
fan! i discovered some old playlists of his from his website, and hes
played "New Dawn Fades" and "Move" and stuff like that...
i gave him a few cds for him to borrow and play on the radio but i
havent heard him play anything i gave him yet...
its funny, he had a 8 hour show sunday 10pm-monday 6am. i fell asleep
around 3am, and he hadnt played anything from me yet....

<http://www.wpkn.org> and go to playlists...


also i discovered a phat new radio station. it's Yale's new station on
AM. see, they have WYBC 94.3 (the rhythm of the city) which used to
play cool music at night, when it was student-directed. but last year
they switched to an all rnb format, and it sucked. but they finally got
an AM station, so they can play cool music again. 1340 AM. most of the
day, they actually dont have any djs around, its like they just play
music from a computer or something, but its fucking GREAT music, like
Blur and Tricky and Stereolab and Spinanes and Built To Spill and They
Might Be Giants and the Pixies and Talvin Singh and others....
i even woke up one mornign, turned it on, and they were playing
"Mushroom Compost" by mu-ziq! but next they played Asian Dub
Foundation, so i turned it off. ech. im sick of them...


what? this is a moby list? okay bye!


ps:MAIL SOCKS TO MTV TO GET THEM TO PLAY MORE SIFL & OLLY!!! THIS IS
SIFL & OLLY AWARENESS WEEK!!!

YOU FORGOT I WAS A NINJA MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!
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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Scala 19-20-May
Date: 28 Apr 1999 06:09:23 +0100

Is anybody going to the Scala show in London on 19th May?
--
Mark Reed



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Anthem from EIW
Date: 28 Apr 1999 15:20:23 -0700


     Is there a CD single of this out there somewhere on this Pale Blue Dot
     we call a planet??

     I love this song and would like to buy the single if it exists.

     thanks,
     Jayson



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) US single review:  Honey and Run On
Date: 28 Apr 1999 14:03:54 -0600

HONEY AND RUN ON  (44:41)  [11 May 1999]
US CD, V2, 63881-27583-2

 1  3:27  HONEY (Album Mix)
 2  4:48  HONEY (Moby's 118 Mix)
 3  6:41  HONEY (Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix)
 4  6:21  HONEY (Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix)
 5  4:25  RUN ON (extended)
 6  6:03  RUN ON (Moby's Young & Funky Mix)
 7  5:59  RUN ON (Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix)
 8  6:40  MEMORY GOSPEL

Here is a run-down of the _Honey and Run On_ CD maxi-single that
will be released in the United States in less than two weeks.
Steve Giles has already posted a detailed description of its cover
art in the Moby fans club on Yahoo, and maybe he'll post it here,
too.  Below is a track-by-track description of all the songs.

This is Moby's first CD single released in the USA since _Bring
Back My Happiness_ in 1995, and his first CD with V2 Records.
"Honey" and "Run On" were already released as seperate singles by
Mute Records.  The tracks included on the UK CDs and this CD are
different (and good) enough to make it worthwhile to buy them all.
With 44 minutes of music, this eight-track CD is a great value,
and a good preview of Moby's upcoming album _Play_.


HONEY (Album Mix)

This is like the UK single version, but just a little bit longer
at the end.  As the mix name implies, it is the same version that
appears on the album _Play_, which will be released on June 1 in
the USA, June 7 in Japan, and May 17 everywhere else.

HONEY (Moby's 118 Mix)

This version is really DJ-friendly.  It's faster, more upbeat,
with some changes to the piano notes, etc.  It was previously
only available on UK promo items and the UK limited edition 2x12".
A radio edit of this mix is on the UK _Honey Remixes_ CD, but this
is the full mix.

HONEY (Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix)

One of my favorite remixes of "Honey", this lovely track was
previously available only on the UK 12".  It has a good standard
boom-tiss beat with a really nice-sounding (like bright, distorted
strings) two-note loop that floats and flits throughout the song.
The only thing this remix has in common with the original is some
vocal samples that were dropped in.  But it's a nice listen/dance.

HONEY (Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix)

This is the drum & bass remix that is on the UK _Honey Remixes_
single.  Cool, but not spectacular.  Lots of tweaked-up vocal
samples and some pianos and strings from the original.  This mix
has kind of a dark mood, which serves as a good lead-in to
"Run On".

RUN ON (extended)

V2 knows that you can get the original version of "Run On" on the
album _Play_, so they don't waste time giving you a radio edit.
Instead, you get the full extended version from the UK _Run On
Extended_ CD.  This starts out with a plain beat (DJ-friendly) and
doesn't fade out at the end.  Of the five different edits of the
original version of "Run On", this is my favorite.  Good call, V2.

RUN ON (Moby's Young & Funky Mix)

Faster, with a funky beat, this remix is well-suited to club play.
Moby tosses a salad of vocal sample bits over a 303 (or similar)
single-note acid-style bassline.  Though it's danceable, there is
nothing really special about this forgettable remix.

RUN ON (Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix)

When it started out sounding kind of like a car engine turning
over, I thought this remix was going to be miserable.  I was dead
wrong.  It's fantastic!  Sharam Jey has done it again with this
groovy, funky, infectious remix that packs tons of energy into its
medium-tempo package.  This is the funk soul brother of Sharam
Jey's Sweet Honey Mix.  Before being released in the USA, this
remix was only available on the German 12" (which I still highly
recommend for its other excellent, rare "Run On" remixes).

MEMORY GOSPEL

This CD maxi-single closes with a reminder that Moby makes great
B-side tracks as well.  Originally released on the UK _Honey_ CD
single, "Memory Gospel" was recently used in a well-known Adidas
shoe commercial.  Its three-chord string harmony pours out all
over a soft snare beat, accompanied by a piano and female vocals
(the same "hey"s and "yay"s that are on "Graciosa", I believe).
Great instrumental song, filled with introspective emotion.  The
track time is misprinted as 9:03.  It is actually about 6:40.

---
Daniel Cerman
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) James Bond Single
Date: 28 Apr 1999 15:34:47 -0700


     Am I "konichiwa"?

     Anyway, IMO the James Bond single is no good. I believe there is only
     one good remix of the 5 that are on there. What's up with that?!

     I would say just buy ILTS (i like to score) if you do not have that
     yet since it comes with the Re-version (good version).

     Maybe I just haven't listened to it enough, but my first impression
     was disappointment.

     It sure aint no "Into the Blue" (red version) that's for sure!

     - Jayson


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konichiwa,

agreed.  parties were better in 'the good old days'.  much more open
mindedness.  and I remember far more diversity too.  it was at these
early 90's parties where I first heard moby, 808 state, RSW, etc.

can anyone tell me if the James Bond theme remix cd single is worth
buying?

welcome, christian.  are you in the city?  I'm currently living in
Marin.

jyane,

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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hi all!
Date: 28 Apr 1999 14:13:29 -0700 (PDT)

oh goodness-so much to respond to!

a big THANKS!!!! to all for the kind welcome. i half
expected to get my head torn off-but didnt get
anything negative at all(yet!)very cool!!

hmmm!lets see....yes,the multiple single releases for
one song are getting a little out of hand. but we
musically obsessed people have to deal with that type
of thing. part of it is the import vs. domestic. with
many imports having diff songs(or remixes) and
occasional imports from different countries(not just
uk-i am in usa) having other versions remixes or
b-sides-it can get a little out of hand. and if you
buy the vinyl versions it gets totally out of hand.
another reason is that some artists commision there
own singles-bjork would be a good example. she is now
doing 3 cd sets for her singles and recently
commisioned a 6 12" set her alrm call single. of
course with many versions only appearing on the vinyl
to give you that added incentive to buy! a third
reason is money grubbing record labels lookin for the
all mighty dollar. but artists due want there music to
reach to public-so it happens.

there seems to be a lot of disagreement about run
on-just to add my opinion- i like it-but it does take
multiple listens to really get into. but both singles
do have great extra tracks.

and i love honey!! more & more everyday!

definetely fuck rolling stone!! and most major
publications-and a lot of indie ones!!! dont take what
you read at face value-its only an opinion-and alot of
times its from people that were paid to give you that
opinion. they have no previous experience with the
artist(s) they are writing about. i dont want to get
too longwinded about this(as you can see i ramble on
occasionally)but if other people on this here list
would care to conversate about the "mainstream media"
i'm game.

kohut-your posting is rad!!! beach volleyball in
antarctics- i laughed for 5 minutes-really cool to
know that there are moby lovers all over the world!!
and i play moby(and many types of electronica) for all
my friends. it annoys the hell out of some of them!!
but a few have been converted over the years(slowly!).

all for this one-onto the next.

peace. love.

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From: Justin Cade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Scala 19-20-May
Date: 28 Apr 1999 22:21:14 +0100

Mark Reed wrote:
>
> Is anybody going to the Scala show in London on 19th May?
> --
> Mark Reed

I've ordered my tickets for the 19th & the 20th!!!!!
(but not received them yet)

Justin



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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck rs
Date: 28 Apr 1999 14:55:25 PDT

Paul Simpson wrote:

>fuck rolling stone. they may have said EIW is one of the essential
>albums, but they said KLF's "Justified And Ancient" was the number 1
>song that they stil cant believe happened. huh???? KLF RULES!!!!!!
fuck
>them.

Think about it--a techno group with a vocal by TAMMY WYNETTE?! That's
a weird combination by any standard. I still can't believe it
happened! I think you're missing their point--not that the record
sucks but that it's just REALLY BIZARRE.

of course they didnt say Goldie was essential. then again, theyve
>never ever said one good thing about Goldie anyway, so fuck them.

They haven't? What about all those complimentary articles they ran
when Timeless came out? Or weren't you reading RS at the time?

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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:c is for cookie & mobolity-digest vi #381
Date: 28 Apr 1999 15:25:30 -0700 (PDT)

jayson- i dont remember the c is for cookie song. but
some(many) of those nights are a blur!! don't know of
any raves in your area-but i bet there there-dig
deep-go to smaller record and clothing stores- a lot
have flyers. i would love to go to an east coast
party! have only been to west coast parties. why did
you stop going ?!?!?

andrew-ahh,the good ol' days!! i live in livermore(or
livenomore), were i have resided off and on for the
last 12 years. i love marin though-anyplace across the
san rafael bridge is good with me!! my eventual goal
is to move to the north coast-but the job market sucks
large!! when did you start going to parties my friend?
my first parties were in 90'. i have been told that my
first party was an actual break in-but i wasnt aware
of such things at the time. all i remember is not
being very sober even by the time i reached the
line(hallucinagenics by the way)and hearing this
incredible pounding four/four beat pouring out of the
windows about 15 feet off the ground(south of market
sf for you locals)getting inside and seeing all the
happy halfnaked dancing people gettin down with no
inhabitions. it totally changed me as a person! and i
mean that. from that day on i was canged. it was so
beautiful-so free!!! the first party i remember going
to that had a name was the hig pig spamfest at the
once cool dv8(what happened there?). i was totally
addicted before i ever went to a full moon party-but
that clenched it-free party-AT THE BEACH!! then the
really good production companys came along
wicked,basics,funkytechnotribe and so on. i couldnt
stop. but 92' i was going to 3-4 parties a week. and
as the scene took off- more electronic "bands" came
around
around and i was diggin that too. but the scene
changed!! i dont know what happened-and i've thought
about it a lot!! too many people coming in too
quickly, too much media spotlight. too much
comercialism. too many greedy buisness people lookin
for the quick buck and not caring that they were
ruining what was alreay there. or maybe the blame is
to be placed on the rave culture in general. while a
lot of us did care about the supposed "issues" that a
lot of promoters tried to push on there
fliers(homelessness,food drives,enviromental
issues)there was just as many(if not more) people
there just to get high and dance. and then as our
"scene" became a movement(which it already was in
england and parts of europe)and more companies began
springing up catering to the ravers needs-it was us
that supported them-which was one of the main causes
for the move to the mainstream from the underground.
if no one had given the press all those interviews and
if no one had gone to the new "rave" clothing
stores(and the many others-trying to type quick)
things might be different now-but they may not.
becasue you see-i love the music-and i want it
readally available to me, and i like somr of the
clothes you can get at the "rave specialty shops". so
like i said before-i dont know!
but by 95' i was only going maybe once a month-and
last year i only went to 10 parties(but man the wicked
7 year party was fuckin beautiful!!!!). i will say
that towards the end of last year things where lookin
a little better around our parts. we're just another
sub-culture now. our music has reached all walks of
life(moby remaking the james bond theme-endless tv
commercials using electronic music-anybody catch the
bank of america commercial w/ aphex twin before it was
yanked? way cool!!)and for the most part(accept the
occasional misunderstanding with the law)we seem to be
allowed to just go about our buisness. i still try and
stay away from the larger parties. but the sf raves
calander
http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi
has been packed as of late with parties to make ya
drool!! i am especially looking forward to DUBTRIBE at
1015 folsom on may 6th(sucks that the free ggp show
was cancelled though). so-as usual- i've taken up way
too much of everyones time-but hey-free speech and
all.

hope to see ya around andrew-may even know you!?!

peace. love.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Honey (Risk Mix)
Date: 28 Apr 1999 19:18:57 EDT


You can listen to this at:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/eras/B00000IKII001005/002-4518543-3579423

haven't heard this version before. Kind of interesting.

- jayson



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Good place to buy Imports & 12" & 7"
Date: 28 Apr 1999 19:49:40 EDT


Hey all. Thought I would give you a heads up.

I just ordered Run On 1. & 2.  from a place called Action Records. They have
TONS of Moby stuff. You should check it out
http://www.action-records.co.uk/

PLUS - It was really cheap for both singles w/ shipping costs to send to the
USA it was only 5.5 pounds. I don't consider that a hefty price for two
singles that I cannot get in the states.

- Jayson



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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) stuff...
Date: 28 Apr 1999 18:32:20 PDT

hello...

re: 1000

THANKS to all who commented (a couple digests ago). I couldn't have
said it any better. I think MOBY is trying to say that beyond the
pounding, roller-coaster, craziness of life, lies complete freedom &
tranquility.  but, don't take anyone's word for it.  go see MOBY live
& hopefully he still puts it at the end of his set.  if you're a
believer, it will kick your ass.

re: SF scene (Christian)

went to my first party in '91.  wow! what an experience. I went to a
few full-moons :) around that time too but I was definately more of
the infrequent party-goer as I was into a lot of other stuff too,
namely, a lot of industrial, experimental type bands.  one that I
always tried to go to was the Sunset parties.  I'm certain you must've
been there too!  It's funny what you say about the scene starting to
suck as the businessmen-opportunists started to enter.  I couldn't
agree more.  in fact, a few people who I used to go with ended up
throwing parties of their own and getting into the whole rat-race! I
checked out your link and saw there's a full moon this wknd. near
chico.  I used to live about an hour from chico but have been living
in Petaluma for the better part of 3 months now.  Livermore, hmmm, I
seem to remember going to an 'Area 51' or something in Livermore
around 1994.  perhaps my memory is totally trashed?

did you see MOBY at the big-top electronica festival in Oakland about
a year and a half ago? he didn't play very long as he was sharing the
stage with many others (and also, didn't play THOUSAND). any other bay
area people here?

ok, sorry to traverse, fellow members.  it's a neighbor thang!

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From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) "C" is for Cookie ...
Date: 28 Apr 1999 22:01:51 -0600 (MDT)

>      I wouldn't mind going to one to see what the kids are doing these
>      days. You crazy kids! *hide* <-- that one is for Pickle
    Moi?  *innocent look* No, seriously, another great flaw is that
I've never been to a RAVE!!!  I live in NM and it is exceedingly boring.
My first *of two, wondering how crazy I am ^_- ^_^* boyfriends had been to
them, and took me to a "underage" club once, but it was lame, with all the
gangsters hanging out, and the same drum beat constant...:p  I wish I
could see what we're doing these days, too!
    I think my main problem is a mortality complex I have -got- to
overcome...living is good, but ya gotta have fun!
    Alright, and to keep on subject *kinda ^^;* I heard my first
official moby song today ^_^ It was short and sweet and I -loved- it ...
the European web site theme or somethin'?  I was in a hurry pestering my
brother and his sound files but still....mmmm can't wait for more! ^_^
    'kay nuff mumblin' ^_^;                pickle
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From: 7135 THOMAS  R BRADLEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Justified and Ancient
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:17:42 +0100


      I heard "Justified and Ancient" by KLF recently, it's brilliant,
fuck rolling stone...
   Er, any idea of if Moby has any intention of doing any metal soon
after PLAY is released?




Not Moby related, but I'm happy "Everyone Is Free To Wear Sunscrean" by
sombody I can't remember is released on 24 of may.





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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) voodoo child
Date: 29 Apr 1999 07:15:35 -0700 (PDT)

listened to the end of everything for the first time
in over a year last night. really,really enjoyed it!

christian



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From: "Lance Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) stuff from my ass???
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:23:40 -0400

--"anybody remember that(those)damn sesame street songs." --(christian)
--"I did not like the "Sesame Street" rave song however. --That was lame." (jayson)

okely...it's been a bit since i've posted...it's mainly because i am one of those types that loves moby for his music...i don't know much about his side stuff...never been able to see him play...but i still am very glad to be able to hear all this stuff...hell...with the people i have the opportunity to talk to...i'd have never found out his new album was on the way out until i made my weekly trip through the stores to see if i can find any new music...but anyways...about my reply's....yes...i remember the sesame street songs...the two mentioned atleast...and jayson, it's called "Sesame's Treet"...the band is the Smart E's...in my personal collection it's one of my most listened to albums...i challenge everyone on here to go out and find a copy of the album to listen to...one song in particular will kick your ass...it's called "The Law"...
i've not got the run on mp3 (i forget who posted that dj's link, but thank you!!!)...admitedly it's different...i was also surprised (like i'm sure many might have been) when i first heard it coming out of my little pc speakers...but i think it's fairly spiffy...i can't wait to hear the normal version (.mp3's always seem to sound a little off to me..or maybe it's just winamp)...but i think that so far i'll have to give it a thumbs up...i don't care if Play supposedly sounds like moby just made it to make music...isn't that what people have to do sometimes...you don't want to particularly stick with one theme or try to get out a really heavy message to the world about something...sometimes it's just fun to let loose...create...and share...so i can't wait to hear the rest of what moby wanted to share with me...

reading always, posting rarely, my ear is always open

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Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:41:24 -0700


     Yeah, I listened to that last night when I went to bed. It's good
     sleepy-time music. It's times like this that I think Moby is a genius.
     The Dog Day single is good too. If youhave the chance, get it.

     - Jayson


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listened to the end of everything for the first time
in over a year last night. really,really enjoyed it!

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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:you make me feel so good,so good
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT)


kohut wrote-

you said my posting was RAD.
shame on me, but i don't know that word, and my second
bible,
the Longman Wordpower Dictionary lies unavailable on
the shelf
in my room at the youth hostel. (i'm in school now),
so please if you could explain this to me, because i
don't know
wheter :
i should feel good
or i should feel bad,
bad about my postings
being so RAD



kohut-RAD IS GOOD! the word itself is a shortened down
version of some bad 80's slang. the whole word is
radical. i actually try not to say it anymore but i
was overcome with silliness-sorry for the
confusion-your english is actually quite good! i'm
sure i don't know any words in your native tongue.
ahhh!! didint mean to send that yet-but anyway- have a
great day(or night? its 8:23 a.m. were i am).

christian
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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:you make me feel so good,so good
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:28:05 -0700 (PDT)


kohut wrote-

you said my posting was RAD.
shame on me, but i don't know that word, and my second
bible,
the Longman Wordpower Dictionary lies unavailable on
the shelf
in my room at the youth hostel. (i'm in school now),
so please if you could explain this to me, because i
don't know
wheter :
i should feel good
or i should feel bad,
bad about my postings
being so RAD



kohut-RAD IS GOOD! the word itself is a shortened down
version of some bad 80's slang. the whole word is
radical. i actually try not to say it anymore but i
was overcome with silliness-sorry for the
confusion-your english is actually quite good! i'm
sure i don't know any words in your native tongue.
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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Good place to buy Imports & 12" & 7"
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:40:00 -0700 (PDT)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Hey all. Thought I would give you a heads up.
>
> I just ordered Run On 1. & 2.  from a place called
> Action Records. They have
> TONS of Moby stuff. You should check it out
> http://www.action-records.co.uk/
>
> PLUS - It was really cheap for both singles w/
> shipping costs to send to the
> USA it was only 5.5 pounds. I don't consider that a
> hefty price for two
> singles that I cannot get in the states.
>
> - Jayson
>
>
hey-this is a great site!! i'm really into a lot of
stuff that i can only get as an import-and most of its
cheaper through action. thanks!!!

christian
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From: "Russ Reed" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #382
Date: 29 Apr 1999 08:50:48 -0700


Mental Freeze- links to music, photography, art, and more
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/8176
           UPDATED APRIL 27TH!!!!
Currently in my CD player:
The Rentals- Return of the Rentals

Latest music acquisition:
Ben Folds Five- The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold                 Messner
"Well Hanson did it to Hester
 And Mark David did it to John
 and maybe Jack did it to Marilyn
 But he did it to South Vietnam
 For beauty and glory
 for money, love, and country
 Everybody's doing it
 Don't do that to me"
                -Bad Religion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Welocme to the list, Christian & Russ!

wow! thanks! a friendlt list.(well, for the most part it seems anyway)

>ps:MAIL SOCKS TO MTV TO GET THEM TO PLAY MORE SIFL & OLLY!!! THIS IS
>SIFL & OLLY AWARENESS WEEK!!!
>
>YOU FORGOT I WAS A NINJA MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!
>===
>"BUY MY POTATO POWERED PANTS! SUCKERS!!!!!"-Precious Roy

sifl and olly! you rock!

how come we have to wait so long to get PLay in the US?
thats so stupid, ive been waiting for this new album for um i dont even know how long anymore. i first read about it last year sometime and i cant even get the honey single. i hope you people who live in europe know how lucky you are to get it before us.

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Subject: Re: (mobility) stuff from my ass???
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:34:29 -0700


     Hey Lance,

     Just to take on your challenge, I'll find the album and buy it. It's
     gotta be somewhere on the net.

     - Jayson


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.and jayson, it's called "Sesame's Treet"...the band is the Smart E's...in my
personal collection it's one of my most listened to albums...i challenge
everyone on here to go out and find a copy of the album to listen to...one song
in particular will kick your ass...it's called "The Law"...
     i
















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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) stuff from my ass???
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:00:50 -0700 (PDT)

--- Lance Brown <[e-mail]> wrote:

about my
> reply's....yes...i remember the sesame street
> songs...the two mentioned atleast...and jayson, it's
> called "Sesame's Treet"...the band is the Smart
> E's...in my personal collection it's one of my most
> listened to albums...i challenge everyone on here to
> go out and find a copy of the album to listen
> to...one song in particular will kick your
> ass...it's called "The Law"...
>
> (.mp3's always seem to sound a little off to me..or
> maybe it's just winamp)
>
>
>
> hey lance-i'm sure it would be incredibly hard to
find-but a friend had the cassette maxi when it came
out-and although i really didn't enjoy "sesame's
treet"(which is the correct name-thanks)i remember
"the law" was sick! i used to have it on a comp. tape
i had made from that friends music. i will purchase it
if i find it though-just to give it another try. i
love going through the used record bins anyway!!

on the mp3 sounding a little off-becasue i always felt
that way too-i have a suggestion(and i am not a
technical genious-so you may be doing this already-its
just something i read on a faq page about winamp). try
converting the mp3 files to wav files. you can do it
with the plug-ins that come with the winamp. it vastly
improved the sound quality of most mp3's.

peace.

christian

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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) stuff...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT)



--- Android M <[e-mail]> wrote:

> did you see MOBY at the big-top electronica festival
> in Oakland about
> a year and a half ago? he didn't play very long as
> he was sharing the
> stage with many others (and also, didn't play
> THOUSAND). any other bay
> area people here?

ok so i'm sure that i'm annoying the hell out of
everyone-but i'm really excited about this list! i am
tied to a pc and phn all day at work and am allowed to
use internet while working-so this is a lot of fun for
me. and i have been really getting back into moby
since i first heard honey.

so anyway...andrew(and all interested)-
no i missed that show,didnt even hear about it!! i've
seen moby at the warfield(sven vath closed on the
turntables-fuckin sick-moby was walking off stage
naked after thousand and theres sven-with a coke in
his hand smiling at this little naked man-yeahh!!!).
i caught the prodigy(when they were good!)moby tour.
it was at this place in the city that i caught a
couple of partys at-i think its called the
galleria-all i know is that was the last night i ever
took acid-it wasnt an all together enjoyable evening.
the place looks kinda like a prison with all the
lights off-you look up and theres 4-6 floors with
white metal railing all around-very strange! moby was
good as always-but the prodigy fuckin rocked that
night. the speaker stacks that night were out of
fuckin hand-and right in the middle on both sides was
this gigantic fuckin woofer-uncovered-you could put
your hand on it-man it had to have been 24"
across-crazy!! and i remember there were lots of naked
people that night-it was very!! hot in there.
theres one i'm forgeting-some club-the trocadero
maybe.

but my favorite(not for quality-that would be the
warfield) just for all around crazy good time-was the
nasa tour(still have the free cassette they handed
out). the lineup for the sf date of the nasa tour was
young american primitive // vapour space // aphex
twin(when he still had the cool dancer guy and played
music you could dance to) // orbital(always an
incredible show) // and moby closed. wow!!! that night
was just crazy good. the afterparty was dope too!

anybody catch these shows or tours-would love to
discuss the happy memories!!!

peace. love.

christian

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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) stuff...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:41:25 -0500

> i caught the prodigy(when they were good!)moby tour.
>
I caught this tour also back in 92' ( I think) .  Moby was incredible!  But
Prodigy was ALOT less than expected.  A friend of mine is the one who
brought them to town.  And Prodigy demanded that they had fruit plates with
certain fruits on it and would only drink a certain brand of water!  They
were VERY high on themselves.  Then after Moby finished up, Prodigy refused
to perform. They said the sound system couldnt handle them. So they
basically put on their CD and basically hooped and hollered along with it.
Kind of a let down.  But it was an awesome MOBY experience (seeing that
there were probably only 200 of us there!)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: Honey Single
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:38:40 -0700


     Russ,

     You CAN get BOTH HOney Singles (Part 1 & 2) most anywhere in the US. I
     even saw it on Music Boulavard (MusicBlvd.com) which has a good
     selection of Moby singles & albums (almost everything). Also,
     Amazon.com has both Honey singles. They are reasonably priced.

     Say, does anyone have the James Bond CD single with 8 mixes on it? I
     have the one with only 6 mixes (I think I got GIPPED!). Are the last
     two remixes any good??

     - Jayson (who MUST have ALL Moby for no particular reason)


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how come we have to wait so long to get PLay in the US?
thats so stupid, ive been waiting for this new album for um i dont even know how
long anymore. i first read about it last year sometime and i cant even get the
honey single. i hope you people who live in europe know how lucky you are to get
it before us.

rUss



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Subject: (mobility) Re[2]: Hey Babe, how about some ACTION!
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:46:58 -0700



     yeah, maybe they even have the "Smart E's"! I need to check when I get
     home (no internet at work)

     note: obviously --> [e-mail] = [e-mail]


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 http://www.action-records.co.uk/

hey-this is a great site!! i'm really into a lot of
stuff that i can only get as an import-and most of its
cheaper through action. thanks!!!

christian
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) re:you make me feel so good,so good
Date: 29 Apr 1999 12:43:23 -0700


     Kohut (how do you pronounce that??)

     you are one funny guy. How funny would Kohut be in person? Probably
     RAD (radical/awesome)!

     Go Kohut go!


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kohut wrote-
i should feel good
or i should feel bad,
bad about my postings
being so RAD





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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) stuff...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:04:33 -0700 (PDT)



--- Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > i caught the prodigy(when they were good!)moby
> tour.
> >
> I caught this tour also back in 92' ( I think) .
> Moby was incredible!  But
> Prodigy was ALOT less than expected.  A friend of
> mine is the one who
> brought them to town.  And Prodigy demanded that
> they had fruit plates with
> certain fruits on it and would only drink a certain
> brand of water!  They
> were VERY high on themselves.  Then after Moby
> finished up, Prodigy refused
> to perform. They said the sound system couldnt
> handle them. So they
> basically put on their CD and basically hooped and
> hollered along with it.
> Kind of a let down.  But it was an awesome MOBY
> experience (seeing that
> there were probably only 200 of us there!)

i'm wondering if it was the same tour-but i'm sure it
was. prodigy actually played first when i saw them-
and i had heard all the talk(and still hear)about what
assholes they are. but that night they were
incredible! liam jammed on many songs to the point
were they where unrecognizable! i was very impressed
that night having never seen them before. have seen
them since and was not impressed.

peace.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) stuff...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:25:26 -0700


     I didn't see the actual tours, but I saw Orbital in Boston. They
     rocked the house. i would see them again for sure.

     I saw Moby at this all-day deal that had about 18 bands on two stages
     in one day. Had Morphine, Porno for Pyros, Real Big Fish, etc.
     THEN at the end of the night MOby played on stage two for about 30-45
     minutes. Once he finished, he went to Stage One and played That's When
     I Reach for my Revolver WITH the Mighty Mighty Bostones AND the guy
     that wrote the song originally  (forgot his name). So the concert
     closed with that song. it was pretty sweet!

     - jayson


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but my favorite(not for quality-that would be the
warfield) just for all around crazy good time-was the
nasa tour(still have the free cassette they handed
out). the lineup for the sf date of the nasa tour was
young american primitive // vapour space // aphex
twin(when he still had the cool dancer guy and played
music you could dance to) // orbital(always an
incredible show) // and moby closed. wow!!! that night
was just crazy good. the afterparty was dope too!

anybody catch these shows or tours-would love to
discuss the happy memories!!!

peace. love.

christian

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Run On - German 12"
Date: 29 Apr 1999 19:39:34 +0200

Does anybody have a suggestion of how and where
I can buy the German Run On 12" (online)?

THANKS

Bart




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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) VC/online ordering/Bond Theme
Date: 29 Apr 1999 19:40:03 +0200

Jayson Magnus wrote:
>     Yeah, I listened to that last night when I went to bed. It's good
>     sleepy-time music. It's times like this that I think Moby is a genius.
>     The Dog Day single is good too. If you have the chance, get it.

Yes, the Dog *HEAVEN* single is great. I think you can also buy it here:
http://www.action-records.co.uk/

>They have TONS of Moby stuff. You should check it out.

They have a nice selection, but I wouldn't say that they have TONS of
Moby stuff. If you want to see a HUGE collection of Moby stuff you
can buy, go here:  http://www.musicmailexpress.com/
                               (secure server I think)

Andrew (Android M) wrote:
>can anyone tell me if the James Bond theme remix cd single is worth
>buying?

There is no James Bond Theme remix single. (is there?)
I think it is often listed as "remix" because the UK version has 6 different
(re)mixes and the Australian version even has 8 (re)mixes! If you are able
to find the Australian one, buy it!  The normal UK 6-track is nice too,
especially the "Grooverider's Jeep Remix" and the "Dub Pistols Remix"

Bart

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On - German 12"
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:59:49 -0700


     did you try the Action web site from the UK?

     - Jayson


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Does anybody have a suggestion of how and where
I can buy the German Run On 12" (online)?

THANKS

Bart





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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) which animal??
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT)

can someone please give me as much label info as
possible on the 2 cd version of animal rights-it was
the first one that i saw-but i've never purchased
it-now i would like to and i am not sure when looking
at online catalogues which one it is.

musicmailexpress/rockhouse link is dope also! they do
have the most moby online that i have seen. but they
also have multi versions of animal rights. lmtd,
+1,+5-which version had the extra cd and how many
songs were on it?

thanks. peace.

christian

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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) clash
Date: 29 Apr 1999 13:45:12 -0500 (CDT)


moby has a song on the new clash tribute album. i forget the name, but
it's with heather nova. it's the last track and is very minimal with only
her voice and a few VERY obviously-moby strings and organ. definatly not
worth buying, but interesting if you're a hardcore fan. i've heard it once
and don't need to ever hear it again.

[xaq]
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            but i really enjoy thinking."
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) which animal??
Date: 29 Apr 1999 15:19:41 -0700


     Ah ... I forget. 1st CD has "My Love Will Never Die" on it, then 2nd
     CD has about 6-8 songs, all ambient type (Like Voodoo-Child CD). I can
     look at my CD-code when I get home in 3 hours ...

     - Jayson


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can someone please give me as much label info as
possible on the 2 cd version of animal rights-it was
the first one that i saw-but i've never purchased
it-now i would like to and i am not sure when looking
at online catalogues which one it is.

musicmailexpress/rockhouse link is dope also! they do
have the most moby online that i have seen. but they
also have multi versions of animal rights. lmtd,
+1,+5-which version had the extra cd and how many songs
were on it?

thanks. peace.

christian

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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On - German 12"
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:46:15 +0200

>     did you try the Action web site from the UK?
>
>     - Jayson


Yes, but it was not on it. They only have:
-------------------
196077     MOBY - RUN ON    (DAVE CLARKE MIX)     12"       ú2.99
-------------------
Which is the normal UK 12"....

A while back Steve Giles wrote:
>The only problem is that (as far as we know so far) this Run On mix
>is only on the German 12"! Markus Wollina, you should locate these
>(when the time comes, in April) and start trading with those of us in
>the US.

Markus, perhaps we could work something out..?


Bart van Eijck





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From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) stuff...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 14:58:39 PDT

"Android M" wrote:

>did you see MOBY at the big-top electronica festival in Oakland about
>a year and a half ago? he didn't play very long as he was sharing the
>stage with many others (and also, didn't play THOUSAND). any other bay
>area people here?

I was there. I was on a month-long
vacation (bought a 30-day Greyhound
pass) and went to Big Top in SF. Fun
stuff, only party I've ever been to there.
Turned a not-quite-a-fan friend on to
Moby there, too, which made it worthwhile.

Matos


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Double CD Animal Rights
Date: 29 Apr 1999 19:04:50 EDT


Christian -

This is what it says on my double CD: LCDStumm150

hope that helps
- jayson



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From: "Derek Goodwrench" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Some things and a question...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 20:10:16 CDT



   2 funniest things I've read this year...

   1. "Kicking my car..." by Russ
   2. "Bondage fantasies about dressing up as a Teletubby..." by Tom


   Conerning RS and Goldie, I almost never read the magazine. Terrible
things could happen if they piss me off. All it is/ever was/is commercial.
Brittney Spears? C'mon, give me a break. Goldie is still, in my opinion, THE
face of Drum and Bass music. Roni's good, and so are LTJ, Rob, SHJ (the 2nd
best), WE, Photek, etc...but Goldie's the man. What's his real name, anyway?
AllMusic said he never reveals it because of his background. The last thing
I read in RS about Goldie was about him and Bjork breaking up.

   Questions...

   1. Why isn't Moby on more compilations? Not soundtracks, but comps. The
only one I remember him on is a Techno album (can't think of the name)that
had "Feeling So Real" and the Lopez mix of "Dog Heaven".
   2. Finally, if Moby formed a duo with someone, who should it be? Any
ideas?


   A big shout to all the new ones on this list. Interesting name...Kitty
Watermelon? Sounds like a Japanese Anime superhero.


   derek...

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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) "C" is for Cookie ...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 16:54:43 -0700 (PDT)



--- [e-mail] wrote:


>      BTW -
>      Anyone know of any Raves in the Boston area??
> Even Albany/Saratoga, NY
>      area (i doubt it)??
>
>      - Jayson

As far as I know there is one over in PA, a few days
befor mem. day. I can get you info if you would like
its for 3 days w/ josh wink and others, pretty big!!!
bri
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Subject:  Re: (mobility) "C" is for Cookie ...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 21:34:42 EDT



Why not! Send me the info in PA

- Jayson



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From: Kitty Watermelon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Some things and a question...
Date: 29 Apr 1999 20:14:23 -0600 (MDT)

>    A big shout to all the new ones on this list. Interesting name...Kitty
> Watermelon? Sounds like a Japanese Anime superhero.
    'Smatter of fact...^_^  My brother adopted the name Suika, which
means watermelon in japanese.  Just about then, my mom finally got her
degree *stupid university pushed her around like 10 yrs!* and decided to
mock the status, she'd put "Lisa Ellen Watermelon Waltz" on her degree.
^_^  So that's how it started.  Well, and we're big cat people.  ^_^
    Alright, that was so off subject...sorry. ^_^;
                            pickle
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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) which animal??
Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:56:12 +0200

Christian wrote:
>musicmailexpress/rockhouse link is dope also! they do
>have the most moby online that i have seen. but they
>also have multi versions of animal rights. lmtd,
>+1,+5-which version had the extra cd and how many
>songs were on it?

+1 = The Japanese release (it includes New Dawn Fades)
         It has 17 tracks but they are also on the US version,
         and it is about $32 so I wouldn't buy this one....

+5 = The US release. It is called +5 because it includes
         5 different songs that aren't on the UK Animal Rights.
         This one (and also the Japanese) include the song
         "Anime" that is not on the 2CD version...

-LTD- = The one you want, the 2CD. the bonus disc called
               "Little Idiot" has 9 beautiful ambient tracks:

1  3:25  Degenerate
2  4:53  Dead City  [sounds a lot like "Alone" without the drums]
3  3:06  Walnut
4  5:06  Old
5  4:01  A Season In Hell
6  3:43  Love Song For My Mom  [not the same as the one on AR!]
7  3:22  The Blue Terror Of Lawns
8  3:44  Dead Sun
9  18:28  Reject   [= also on the US rel. of "The End Of Everything"]

I think http://www.ab-cd.com also has the 2CD, I think it would be
cheaper to buy it there if you live in the US.
Musicmailexpress/rockhouse has a pretty impressive collection of
Moby stuff, but IMO they're a bit expensive....


Bart van Eijck









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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) 2 questions...
Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:57:07 +0200

>   Questions...
>
>   1. Why isn't Moby on more compilations? Not soundtracks, but comps. The
>only one I remember him on is a Techno album (can't think of the name)that
>had "Feeling So Real" and the Lopez mix of "Dog Heaven".
>   2. Finally, if Moby formed a duo with someone, who should it be? Any
>ideas?


1 These are the compilations I have (or that I know of) that have Moby
songs:
(They are not listed in the "compilation" section of Dan's discography info
on www.moby.org )

- The Best of Parkzicht III   [Voodoo Child - Dog Heaven (Extended Mix)]
- Techno Trance 1 [ UHF - UHF]
- Techno Trance 5 [Moby - Go (The Mover Mix)]
- Techno Trance 9 [Moby - Hymn (European Mix)] ***
- Thunderdome III   [Moby - Thousand]
- The History Of House (2CD) [CD2: Moby - Go]
- Hit Explosion '97 vol. 12  [Moby - James Bond Theme]
- Techno Tunes vol. 1  [Voodoo Child - Voodoo Child (contracted)]
- Phuture Trax  stage 3  [UHF - Everything]

At the library there are lots of other cd's with Moby songs on it, so I
wouldn't say Moby is only on just a few compilation cd's.
*** This is an edit of the full European Mix.
      I haven't heard it on any other (Moby) release....

2 Moby should cooperate with Mimi Goese again, it sounded great
   on Everything Is Wrong!


Bart van Eijck

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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) which animal??
Date: 02 May 1999 00:24:23 +0900

First, about the Japanese Animal Rights and basically every Japanese release
there is, they are always tons of money in America right? Everytime I went to
Newbury Comics in Boston I woud always pick up that APHEX 51/13 but then put
it down cause it was like 50 bucks. Well, I just want you all to know that the
reason is that it costs that price in Japan! A little bit less, but not that much.
    Anyway, about the Animal Rights, if there is anyone who wants the 2CD Animals
rights set, send me an email. I actually have 3. I will trade it easily, so I
am sure this way will be much cheaper than paying 30 bucks on the iNET. But
either way you do it, I would again recomend only getting the 2CD Animal
Rights if you like the 1CD release. I think the mix of the heavy stuff and the
light stuff works much better as on the 1CD than having 2 CDs with it broken
up. Anyway, if you want it, anyone, send me an email. Later.
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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) which animal??
Date: 29 Apr 1999 11:11:24 +0100

>+5 = The US release. It is called +5 because it includes
>         5 different songs that aren't on the UK Animal Rights.
>         This one (and also the Japanese) include the song
>         "Anime" that is not on the 2CD version...
>
any ideas what songs these are? is it teh US AR we are talking about?
--
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From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) who here is in Japan again?
Date: 30 Apr 1999 10:56:26 -0500

Sorry to post this to the list, but I know someone here is writing from
japan, if you could email me privately I have a question...

[e-mail]




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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) rules??
Date: 30 Apr 1999 09:29:43 -0700 (PDT)

christopher in japan(are you-if so-very cool) and
either jason or andrew(fellow bay are resident-sorry i
forgot which one)have both apologized to the group
here for speaking locally(to people in there local
geographic area)on the list. i kind of like to hear
whats going on in other peoples local areas(kohut^_^).
is this not allowed(or against the rules). i have
never been on a list before and dont want to step on
toes-ya know! so let me know!!

peace. love.

christian

6 day till dubtribe at 1015. 6 days till dubtribe at
1015. gahhh!!!!!! sorry-i couldnt help myself.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #384
Date: 30 Apr 1999 12:11:10 EDT


In a message dated 4/30/99 10:58:46 AM,
[e-mail] writes:

<<
>>

That rave in PA is called Whistle 2 and it looks like it would tons of fun,
anyways about Moby being on a comp. well I found one that he is on. It's
called Chill Out by Instinct Records and he plays My Beautiful Blue SKy. well
that's all I have to say.

OoUuTt
-SUN

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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) see the new spilt single cover
Date: 30 Apr 1999 09:42:03 PDT


This message is from Tommy. ([e-mail]) I'm just the forwarder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
STEVE!!!
relay this to mobility for me.  my other adress is down. and nothing will
send.


hello
so yet again, me and steve thought you might want to see the picture(s) of
this
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/2xrunon.htm

so does this mean that thanksII is nothing but a little dream i congured up.
is he away again?  not enough time for it?
what's up with thanks II.
should i continue trying to re-make tracks for it in hope that some of you
will like it?  that would be your cue-   you know, to SAY
SOMETHING?  write.  sorry if i'm coming off a little harsh but the way it's
been for me is-ask and i shall not recieve anything at all type thing.

howbout thanksII?
how about um.
ok. complain i won't.  it's just damn irritating to hear nothing about this.
i was hoping that when i showed my "gu-hymn", that thanksII might actually
have been mentioned.

so i reworked the first winamp skin (moby1) that i ever made that you can
download from moby.org/fans.
it's finished now.  and looks very different making use of the same picture
(of moby practically naked).  you might not like it. i do.  it don't seem to
fit moby's newer music the way i look at it.  and STeveG hates it.  so there
you have it.  you can't look at what it looks like yet because i havent yet
made a picture of it.  hold on a second...

ok so you can see the picture of the main window pik:
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/Main.BMP
it won't open with your browser though so you'll have to open it in it's
location or whatever or save it to your disk to look at it if you'd like to.
the skin has in a zipped file, a playlist, an old readme that i havent
updated yet, an eq and blahakjfkla
oh yeah, and that cursor is in theretoo.
http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/moby-amp.ZIP
within a couple days i will update my moby page and it will be much simpler.

<><<><<><<><Ade wrote a while ago:><><><><
Xaq
  1.  Honey (Remix)
  2.  Dog Heaven (Remix)
Kingmob
  1.  Everytime You Touch Me (Remix)
  2.  something from AR....
Andy
  1.  I Like to Score (Remix)
  2.  M Four (Remix)
Clay
  1.  Honest Love (Remix)
Brian
  1.  Everything is Wrong + Every Time You Touch Me medley (Cover)
Eric
  1.  Myopia (Other)
  2.  Blue Terror of Lawns (Other)
Adam
  1.  Into the Blue (Cover)
Dr. Killpatient
  1.  not sure just yet (Cover
Ryu
  1.  Someone to Love (Cover)


so that's 9 artists all together!  great response!  those that have
listed 2 songs are doign more than 1 just in case there is extra
room.  the song listed first is their top priority....

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<





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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) thanks
Date: 30 Apr 1999 10:00:13 -0700 (PDT)

thanks to all who responded with info on the 2 cd
version of animal rights. i ordered about 1 hour ago.
thanks.thanks.thanks.thanks.

christian
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From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) one more comp.
Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:04:38 PDT

>1 These are the compilations I have (or that I know of) that have Moby
>songs:
>(They are not listed in the "compilation" section of Dan's discography info
>on www.moby.org )
>
>- - The Best of Parkzicht III   [Voodoo Child - Dog Heaven (Extended Mix)]
>- - Techno Trance 1 [ UHF - UHF]
>- - Techno Trance 5 [Moby - Go (The Mover Mix)]
>- - Techno Trance 9 [Moby - Hymn (European Mix)] ***
>- - Thunderdome III   [Moby - Thousand]
>- - The History Of House (2CD) [CD2: Moby - Go]
>- - Hit Explosion '97 vol. 12  [Moby - James Bond Theme]
>- - Techno Tunes vol. 1  [Voodoo Child - Voodoo Child (contracted)]
>- - Phuture Trax  stage 3  [UHF - Everything]
>


I just want to add 'Futurhythms' (Moby - Patients) to this compilation list.

--a


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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) one more comp.
Date: 30 Apr 1999 21:33:08 +0200

Andrew wrote:
>I just want to add 'Futurhythms' (Moby - Patients) to this compilation
list.

Never heard of the song. What kind of music is it and from which year?





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From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) [Re2] which animal??
Date: 30 Apr 1999 21:33:30 +0200

>>+5 = The US release. It is called +5 because it includes
>>         5 different songs that aren't on the UK Animal Rights.
>>         This one (and also the Japanese) include the song
>>         "Anime" that is not on the 2CD version...
>>


>any ideas what songs these are? is it teh US AR we are talking about?

Yes this is the US Animal Rights.
Here are the songs that aren't on the UK AR (the 1CD version that is..)

- Dead Sun
- Anima
- Alone
- Old
- A Season In Hell







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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) which animal??
Date: 30 Apr 1999 16:44:14 -0700


     yeah, this is the normal USA release you can get anywhere in america
     at any crappy Sam Goody or whatever crappy stores there are that sell
     all kinds of crappy stuff and never any real GOOD STUFF


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>+5 = The US release. It is called +5 because it includes
>         5 different songs that aren't on the UK Animal Rights.
>         This one (and also the Japanese) include the song
>         "Anime" that is not on the 2CD version...
>
any ideas what songs these are? is it teh US AR we are talking about?
--
Mark Reed




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) rules??
Date: 30 Apr 1999 16:52:00 -0700



     uh, let you know WHAT exactly??
     - Jayson


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christopher in japan(are you-if so-very cool) and
either jason or andrew(fellow bay are resident-sorry i
forgot which one)have both apologized to the group
here for speaking locally(to people in there local
geographic area)on the list. i kind of like to hear
whats going on in other peoples local areas(kohut^_^).
is this not allowed(or against the rules). i have
never been on a list before and dont want to step on
toes-ya know! so let me know!!

peace. love.

christian

6 day till dubtribe at 1015. 6 days till dubtribe at 1015.
gahhh!!!!!! sorry-i couldnt help myself.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: (mobility) one more comp.
Date: 30 Apr 1999 17:11:04 -0700


     you can LISTEN to a clip of this at Amazon.com
     under keyword "Moby" it lists his albums and anything he is on that
     they sell. That one is kinda weird.

     - Jayson


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Andrew wrote:
>I just want to add 'Futurhythms' (Moby - Patients) to this compilation
list.

Never heard of the song. What kind of music is it and from which year?






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From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) a friendly pointer
Date: 30 Apr 1999 14:26:08 PDT


If you need some information on releases, for instance:

1) the differences between Animal Rights releases, or
2) Which complilations Moby has appeared on (currently over 80!)

As Bart mentioned, you can find that info in the discography here:
http://www.moby.org/info/mobydisc.txt

I have it bookmarked, actually. It'll save you the time of waiting for a
response and sorting through replies that only hold a small portion of the
information in each.

-Steve




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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) rules??
Date: 30 Apr 1999 14:56:57 -0700 (PDT)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>      uh, let you know WHAT exactly??
>      - Jayson
>
>
> um-well, if there are any rules that apply to these
list type-a-things. i mean free speech is good and
all-but like i have said previous-i'm sure i'm
annoying the hell out of people with me endless
prattling on-i'll try to slow down a little:)- and i
have seen 2 apologies come across for people posting
things that didnt relate to the entire list. so-thats
all-probably not any clearer. so i'll stop
now(crawling under desk).

peace.

christian
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From: christian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Double CD Animal Rights
Date: 30 Apr 1999 15:00:34 -0700 (PDT)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Christian -
>
> This is what it says on my double CD: LCDStumm150
>
> hope that helps
> - jayson
>
> gahh!! just one more-sorry people!! thanks
jayson-this is  exactly what i needed.

peace.

christian


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From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Conn. and Mass. area sing out loud!!!
Date: 30 Apr 1999 16:05:23 -0700 (PDT)

Well it seems that the great bald one (MOBY), has
agreeded to come and play our little (yeah right)
show.,
The show is called The big ass bbq, it will be at the
Meadows Music Venue in Hartford , Conn on May 31.
Come one come all. Tickets are 25 for reserved and 15
for lawn.
Other bands are Live, Silverchair, Vast, Reel Big
Fish,
Babe the Blue Ox, Spin Doctors, Crash Test Dummys, and
about 20 other bands.
You can get Tix by contacting Pro Tix  (I have 4
already!!!)

Well bye and behave!!
Bri

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From: Freak <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #384
Date: 30 Apr 1999 22:00:34 -0400 (EDT)

I know this isn't Moby related but Whistle 2 is actually in new jersey,
not pa. it's at the Expo center.

danielle

On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/30/99 10:58:46 AM,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<
> >>
>
> That rave in PA is called Whistle 2 and it looks like it would tons of fun,
> anyways about Moby being on a comp. well I found one that he is on. It's
> called Chill Out by Instinct Records and he plays My Beautiful Blue SKy. well
> that's all I have to say.
>
> OoUuTt
> -SUN
>
> "AMerica.....Freedom in a box"
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Use FRIGGIN THANKS II in the subject!!!!
Date: 01 May 1999 01:18:26 -0500 (CDT)



On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Steve Giles wrote:

> so yet again, me and steve thought you might want to see the picture(s) of
> this
> http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/2xrunon.htm
>
> so does this mean that thanksII is nothing but a little dream i congured up.
> is he away again?  not enough time for it?
> what's up with thanks II.


Okay, first off, greetings to all of the newcomers!  Before I get routed
with ten-billion "Whats this Thanks thing?" first things first:

"Thanks" was a disk Andy coordinated with this list that was sort of a
Moby tribute with music created by list members.  It will be re-released
when its sequel, Thanks II, comes out.


> should i continue trying to re-make tracks for it in hope that some of you
> will like it?  that would be your cue-   you know, to SAY
> SOMETHING?  write.  sorry if i'm coming off a little harsh but the way it's
> been for me is-ask and i shall not recieve anything at all type thing.


Okay, EVERYONE, REPEAT AFTER ME:

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS THANKS II RELATED, PUT IT IN THE $%&%&^$#
SUBJECT OF THE MAIL MESSAGE, OR THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES THAT I'LL READ IT.

Listen, I dig this list, but some of the rants and offshoots I just don't
have the time to keep up with.  I'd love to keep up, as there are some
interesting ideas, individuals, and opinions that live here.  However, the
simple fact of the matter is I CAN'T READ EVERYTHING.  So I wathc for
"Thanks II" and respond when I can.

So, out of pure luck, I caught this last e-mail messages.

> howbout thanksII?
> how about um.
> ok. complain i won't.  it's just damn irritating to hear nothing about this.
> i was hoping that when i showed my "gu-hymn", that thanksII might actually
> have been mentioned.

Okay, I posted in March about the April 1st date and heard NOTHING.
ZILCH.  ZIPPO.  I had two private "do we have time" queries and that's it.
So, right now, we have less then a dozen tracks and IMHO, only about 4-5
that are really good.

Now, I am not going to turn into ThanksII Quality-NAZI here, so when the
time comes I'll let the list vote (d/l snippits or something).  Until
then, we either:

a) publicly see who is working on stuff, and set a new date
b) settle for what we have
c) can it

I'm for option A, but I leave it up to you guys.  Also, if there are any
new entries, PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME.  E-mail, FTP, snail-mail - I don't
care.  However, if people have posted entries on web sites, etc., and
haven't used "THANKS II" in the title of the posting, or haven't e-mailed
me, I know nothing about them.  Please resend.

Listen, I can coordinate this but I can't force people to create music.
You guys need to do that.

> <><<><<><<><Ade wrote a while ago:><><><><
> Xaq
>   1.  Honey (Remix)
>   2.  Dog Heaven (Remix)
> Kingmob
>   1.  Everytime You Touch Me (Remix)
>   2.  something from AR....
> Andy
>   1.  I Like to Score (Remix)
>   2.  M Four (Remix)
> Clay
>   1.  Honest Love (Remix)
> Brian
>   1.  Everything is Wrong + Every Time You Touch Me medley (Cover)
> Eric
>   1.  Myopia (Other)
>   2.  Blue Terror of Lawns (Other)
> Adam
>   1.  Into the Blue (Cover)
> Dr. Killpatient
>   1.  not sure just yet (Cover
> Ryu
>   1.  Someone to Love (Cover)

I wish I had half of these.

Sorry I seem so down about this as a) I'm tired, b) its getting
frustrating as I seem to get the "Hey!  What is going on?" and everyone
turns to me for production.  Hell, I'll produce the hell out of this thing
once I get contact.  You guys will love it.....But I need CONTENT.

So, little campers, how about you guys get your AcidDJ and Rebirth fired
up, grab some Mountain Dew, put on some Moby and start cranking some
music...cool?

Do that, and we'll get something kick ass going.

And let's vote on a date, cool?  Nominations, anyone?

-G