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lds-yw-digest Tuesday, June 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 161
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 07:23:01 -0700
From: "C.B. & Edie Fletcher" <stout@zekes.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Mighty Mo Story -Part 3
Hi Alexa, I rec'd parts 2 and 3 of your story. Where is part 1? Could you
resend it? Thanks
Edie
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From: Alexa Dudoit <kupeke@aloha.net>
To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 12:25 PM
Subject: (lds-yw) Mighty Mo Story -Part 3
>The telegrram to the Missouri read "Divert from course...stop...Pass
>Molokai Island in battle formation...stop...Show navel power to Brother
>Dutton...stop...Dip colors...stop...Then continue to Japan." An re-creation
>of the sence that day was written as " Surrounded by his boys, he (Bro.
>Dutton) was ready waiting when the first dim shadows rose above the
>horizon: and he stayed until the long gray column had passed out of sight
>again". "It is not hard for us to picture that erect old figure in its
>humble suit of denim, white hair and beard bright in the sunshine, tears in
>his eyes as he stood at salute, his heart touched to pride and joy." So
>moved by all the fanfare, Dutton felt inadequate at expressing his
>gratitude. "I need a new dictionary to find words (in which) to give
>thanks." he said.
>Thus began the friendship between the US Navy and Kalaupapa. Not long
>after, in 1925, 10 battleship cruisers passed the settlement nearly two
>weeks ahead of schedule and offered an unexpected 21-gun salute. According
>to a neewspaper account, the residents were so excited that they responed
>not only with cheering voices, but by sounding the whistle at the poi
>factory over and over again until they ran out of steam. On the Missouri,
>the tritribute began with Vice Admiral D.E. Hernandez reading aloud Teddy
>Roosevelt's 1908 telegram that commanded his fleet to divert its course and
>dip its colors for Dutton.
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>On Saturday, June 20, 1998 Across from the great lighthouse where the
>residents lined the rocky shore, the tug "Sea Victory" blew its whistle and
>lowered the colors of the Missouri for a full mintue to once again honor
>the memory of a simple man who humbled an entire armada.
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>Hope you enjoyed this story as much as I have... I love my country..
>Happy 4th of July. Aloha, Alexa
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:39:38 -0500
From: Marcia Leon <marcia.leon@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) YW Camp - Secret Sisters -Reply
We have done Secret Sisters on a stake level. And we always end up with
the problem that some girls give lots of wonderful things to their secret
sisters and then some get nothing all week long! So last year we decided
that we would not tell the girls that we were doing secret sisters ...
until everyone was up at camp. We assigned SS at registration and everyone
was told that they needed to get to know their SS and do nice things for
them or make them something at crafts ... and if they needed ideas they
could ask an adult leader for help. It didn't work out perfectly - there
were still some girls that never heard from their SS but we are giving it
another try this year! But this time the YCL's in charge of SS are making
up a chart and will go around each day asking the girls what their SS has
done for them ... a friendly reminder if they haven't done anything.
Marcia in NJ
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:52:26 -0500
From: Marcia Leon <marcia.leon@medtronic.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat-Parable of the Ice Cream -Reply
When I was a ward YW president I had 2 Mia Maids and 1 Beehive that
disrupted everything all the time with their bad attitudes. I especially
REALLY DISLIKED one of these girls!! Instead of ice cream I took all three
(2 of them didn't like the third!) out for chinese food then a movie ...
like one of those "plastic dates" at BYU!! I figured that we all didn't
have to really talk much if we didn't want to and then we could always talk
about the movie on the way home. That one night just turned everything
around for these girls and me! After that they wanted to do everything
with me!! Soon they started to change their attitude at activities and
even turned out to be pleasant! I realized then that many of these girls -
no matter what wonderful families they come from - sometimes just need to
feel that they are important to someone - just paying alittle extra
attention to them individually is what makes the difference!
Marcia in NJ
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:58:23 EDT
From: <Mznuk@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Mighty Mo Story -Part 3
Could you please send me part one and two to the Mighty Mo Story. They got
erased on accident. Thanks! :O)
Mauren
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:39:27 -0700
From: "Alexa Dudoit" <kupeke@aloha.net>
Subject: (lds-yw) Any Information
We have two really great sister (mother and daughter) moving out of our
ward to Papua New Guinea this month... They have made such a great
impression in the R.S. & YW programs.
We (their visiting teachers) are planning a Surprise Farewell for them. We
would like to make it fun and really special for both of them. They
attended Girls Camp this passed June and grew very close to them.
Do any of you have any great fun party ideas, games, roasts etc. that you
could share with us?? Sure would appreciate it!!
Aloha, Alexa
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:41:58 EDT
From: <TheresaAck@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) interview folders question
Dear Charee,
I would love to recieve a copy of your interview folder. I am a new YW
President and need help organizing. I have been a member of the Church for
less than three years.
Theresa Ackerman
8214 Stockton Road
Elkins Park, PA 19027
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:51:32 EDT
From: rsburton@juno.com (Richard and Susan)
Subject: (lds-yw) Same Boat
Thanks to all of you wonderful people who have written in regards to this
problem with my two MIA MAIDS. I have felt many times like, why am I
here? Is this my punishment for something I did in this life? I do love
these girls and they are often the cause of many tears, much frustration
and extra time on my knees. I found out, that one of the girls ran away
from home the night of the activity. Her mother is distraught. Seems
she decided to break a house rule of no boys over after nine and her
mother got up and the daughter was having a party in their front yard.
Mom got mad and daughter ran off. She is the better of the two. I know
she has a spark of the spirit still in her. I made notes of all the
advise that was given. This is my nineth month as the YW president and
before this, I wasn't in YW since I was one--Years back!!
We did try the one-on-one with the worst of the two. Her mother
called and told us to take her daughter out for dinner for her birthday.
I was against that because the other girls would then anticipate the
same. My councilor did it though. It made no difference to this
particular girl. She seems like a rock. Her mother professes what a
perfect daughter she has, that her testimony is so much stronger than the
other YW -
now does this woman walk around with her eyes closed or what? Dad is the
one we usually approach and he says he will just pull her out of YW and
that was his solution. I don't want that. I'd like them to teach her to
behalf in YW so she and others can get the full benefit of the program
and enjoy this time in their life. Dad's a school teacher and that's how
he handles badly bahaved children in class. That's not the way to do the
Lord's work. We can't pull it out from under these YW. They need this
trainig!!!
We have make these two YW responsible for different things in
activities, guess who does them....Their mothers. I had one mother even
allow her daughter to leave an activity and the mother finished the craft
while her daughter played in the hall.
Ex-daddy Bishop, your advise is wonderful. The Lord did put me here
for a reason-
I know I can handle this, but my oldest is 13 and I'm just learning about
teens. I was one once, but I loved the gospel and clung to it with my
life. I was taught respect and honor my elders.....It was so different
for me. I guess that's why I don't understand.
As far as ward council, one of the girls have both parents in there.
More fasting and prayer. I know it works. I believe the Lord
listens and guides....I just wanted to do all that I could, that's why I
wrote. Thank you ALL again for every thought to ponder. Susan in
Palmdale, CA
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:03:08 -0800
From: "Dan Rostrom" <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat
Susan- I repete these girls sound just like mine. Both my girls are very
good girls just disruptive. We spoke to one mom who said she'd be 18 in a
few month so if we can't all get along she doesn't need to go to yw anymore.
She's missing the boat, and missed teaching her about respect. She demands
it when she teaches sports, but then when anyone else is do anything it's
stupid and not worth her listening or paying attentions. These girls are
keeping the commandments except they're just rude and immature.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard and Susan <rsburton@juno.com>
To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 8:55 AM
Subject: (lds-yw) Same Boat
>Thanks to all of you wonderful people who have written in regards to this
>problem with my two MIA MAIDS. I have felt many times like, why am I
>here? Is this my punishment for something I did in this life? I do love
>these girls and they are often the cause of many tears, much frustration
>and extra time on my knees. I found out, that one of the girls ran away
>from home the night of the activity. Her mother is distraught. Seems
>she decided to break a house rule of no boys over after nine and her
>mother got up and the daughter was having a party in their front yard.
>Mom got mad and daughter ran off. She is the better of the two. I know
>she has a spark of the spirit still in her. I made notes of all the
>advise that was given. This is my nineth month as the YW president and
>before this, I wasn't in YW since I was one--Years back!!
> We did try the one-on-one with the worst of the two. Her mother
>called and told us to take her daughter out for dinner for her birthday.
>I was against that because the other girls would then anticipate the
>same. My councilor did it though. It made no difference to this
>particular girl. She seems like a rock. Her mother professes what a
>perfect daughter she has, that her testimony is so much stronger than the
>other YW -
>now does this woman walk around with her eyes closed or what? Dad is the
>one we usually approach and he says he will just pull her out of YW and
>that was his solution. I don't want that. I'd like them to teach her to
>behalf in YW so she and others can get the full benefit of the program
>and enjoy this time in their life. Dad's a school teacher and that's how
>he handles badly bahaved children in class. That's not the way to do the
>Lord's work. We can't pull it out from under these YW. They need this
>trainig!!!
> We have make these two YW responsible for different things in
>activities, guess who does them....Their mothers. I had one mother even
>allow her daughter to leave an activity and the mother finished the craft
>while her daughter played in the hall.
> Ex-daddy Bishop, your advise is wonderful. The Lord did put me here
>for a reason-
>I know I can handle this, but my oldest is 13 and I'm just learning about
>teens. I was one once, but I loved the gospel and clung to it with my
>life. I was taught respect and honor my elders.....It was so different
>for me. I guess that's why I don't understand.
> As far as ward council, one of the girls have both parents in there.
>
> More fasting and prayer. I know it works. I believe the Lord
>listens and guides....I just wanted to do all that I could, that's why I
>wrote. Thank you ALL again for every thought to ponder. Susan in
>Palmdale, CA
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:27:04 EDT
From: <TheresaAck@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) YW Camp & church double standards? -Reply
AT our recent stake YW camp we replaced all activities that could be
considered questionable...or prank like... with random acts of kindness. The
girls developed a sense of unity from these activities and I have no doubt
that this was in line with what the Savior would have them do. Kindness and
anonymous service is acceptable for the Boy Scouts of America, Young Woman and
all organizations lalike. Though this is only my opinion I think we need to
use great care when we decide what activities we would lable harmless.
I think that the bottom line is that we should always look to the Savior
and decide if our activities would be ones that He would take part in as a
young man.
Theresa
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:52:19 -0600
From: "Charmaine L. Peck" <serryp@burgoyne.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Random Acts of Kindness/pranks
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this idea! Random acts of kindness instead! I am ALL OVER
THAT! Gonna spread the word here, and do it at camp next year. Thanks for
the idea!
Charee Peck, Stake YW President, South Salt Lake Stake
serryp@burgoyne.com
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From: TheresaAck@aol.com <TheresaAck@aol.com>
To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) YW Camp & church double standards? -Reply
>AT our recent stake YW camp we replaced all activities that could be
>considered questionable...or prank like... with random acts of kindness.
The
>girls developed a sense of unity from these activities and I have no doubt
>that this was in line with what the Savior would have them do. Kindness
and
>anonymous service is acceptable for the Boy Scouts of America, Young Woman
and
>all organizations lalike. Though this is only my opinion I think we need
to
>use great care when we decide what activities we would lable harmless.
> I think that the bottom line is that we should always look to the
Savior
>and decide if our activities would be ones that He would take part in as a
>young man.
> Theresa
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:45:24 -0700
From: "Alexa Dudoit" <kupeke@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat
Great idea Stacey. The key is to be consistant. I have girls that do this
in my ward too so you aren't alone no matter where you come from...
Aloha,
Alexa
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> From: SPrice9OOO@aol.com
> To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat
> Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 10:48 PM
>=20
> In a message dated 98-06-30 00:51:04 EDT, you write:
>=20
> << another thing they have done has and is that they are very rude to
> the leaders, they have no respect and talk the whole time their teache=
rs
> are giving lessons. When the bishop is in there, it makes no
difference.
> I have to make the announcements two or three times because they
> interupt me to ask questions because they were not listening. >>
>=20
> OK... I just reread your message & I do have another idea about this. I
> remember reading in Teach Ye Deligently, where it talks about "problem"
> students who talk while the teacher/leader is talking. Elder Packer say=
s
the
> very first course of action is for the teacher/leader to STOP talking.
You
> could announce to everyone that you have a new rule.... really it is a
way
> that you all can be respectful of each other. The rule is "I won't talk
when
> you are talking, you don't talk when I am talking!"... or you can just
start
> doing it without announcing anything. So, then the minute they start
talking,
> just stop & stare at them & wait. Pretty soon EVERYONE will be staring =
at
them
> & waiting. And that is where peer pressure comes in. When they stop, th=
en
you
> start. When they start, you stop. It may be hard to get out your lesson
that
> first Sunday... but it would have an impact I would think & it sounds
like the
> others are having a hard time getting much out of the lesson anyway...
Just
> plan on stopping a lot that first Sunday and hopefully it would improve=
&
the
> talking would taper off... Same thing with announcements. Just always
stick to
> that rule. What if this were to happen in a special event too? Could th=
e
mock
> wedding have just come to a halt & everyone just wait??? I know you
probably
> would hate to do that... but that might make a difference. And a moment
of
> silence is a whole lot less disruptive then the behavior ruining the
whole
> thing. I've seen teachers do that & it is very effective, even with
adults!!!
> Let me know if any of these ideas work!!!
>=20
> Just another thought. =DC
> Stacey
>=20
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:16:54 -0800
From: "Dan Rostrom" <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Random Acts of Kindness/pranks
I'm sure we did pranks when I was at camp a hundred years ago but I don't
really remember them. We also did random acts of kindness. We were giving
tons of warm fuzzies and encourgaged to use them up that week. By secretly
doing someones dishes and leaving a fuzzy or by making something in craft
class and leaving a fuzzy with it, etc. We never brought stuff with us for
secret sisters we did it to everyone anytime and made them stuff when they
were not looking. Really, that;s what I remember, that sweet spirit not the
pranks.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Charmaine L. Peck <serryp@burgoyne.com>
To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Random Acts of Kindness/pranks
>I LOVE LOVE LOVE this idea! Random acts of kindness instead! I am ALL
OVER
>THAT! Gonna spread the word here, and do it at camp next year. Thanks for
>the idea!
>
>Charee Peck, Stake YW President, South Salt Lake Stake
>serryp@burgoyne.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TheresaAck@aol.com <TheresaAck@aol.com>
>To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
>Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 11:31 AM
>Subject: Re: (lds-yw) YW Camp & church double standards? -Reply
>
>
>>AT our recent stake YW camp we replaced all activities that could be
>>considered questionable...or prank like... with random acts of kindness.
>The
>>girls developed a sense of unity from these activities and I have no doubt
>>that this was in line with what the Savior would have them do. Kindness
>and
>>anonymous service is acceptable for the Boy Scouts of America, Young Woman
>and
>>all organizations lalike. Though this is only my opinion I think we need
>to
>>use great care when we decide what activities we would lable harmless.
>> I think that the bottom line is that we should always look to the
>Savior
>>and decide if our activities would be ones that He would take part in as
a
>>young man.
>> Theresa
>>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:20:53 -0600
From: "The Roberts" <roberts@utw.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat
I think my first choice would be to invite their parents in to sit with
them. Even if their parents don't do anything - it would be
semi-embarrassing to have your mom or dad sitting by you.
The second thing would be to ask them to give a certain lesson. Give them
the book, call them every day and when Sunday comes let them know they must
take the full 40 minutes or so. I can see a disaster with this one though.
Liz
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> From: Richard and Susan <rsburton@juno.com>
> To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat
> Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 10:47 PM
>
> The type of things these girls do is: We had a family appreiciation
> dinner and they wore jeans which we asked they do NOT wear jeans. They
> invited their nonmember friends, didn't help decorate, ATE, and went down
> the hall and talked on the phone for over an hour, ran the halls and I'm
> sorry, I couldn't run the dinner and run after them.
> another thing they have done has and is that they are very rude to
> the leaders, they have no respect and talk the whole time their teachers
> are giving lessons. When the bishop is in there, it makes no difference.
> I have to make the announcements two or three times because they
> interupt me to ask questions because they were not listening. There
> have been many times that they don't do their part and tell their parents
> that we "PICK" on them when we get upset for them not doing their part.
> Of course, moms refuse to believe that "THEIR" daughters are at fault in
> any way, shape or form.
> We did that mock wedding that was on the list awhile ago, we went
> all out. It was beautiful. During the WHOLE thing they sat and laughed
> and ruined for the others who were trying to listen and enjoy the
> program.
> Whenever we take it to the parents, they roll their eyes and
> say<,"so what did she do this time:" whithout really caring to
> listen-they too have the attitude that we are PICKING on their daughters.
>
> I failed to mention that when we had the appreciation dinner, they
> sat in the kitchen and ate about 10 rolls. HEEEEELLLLLPPPPPP!!!!!!
>
> On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:43:32 EDT <SPrice9OOO@aol.com> writes:
> >Explain a little more please...
> >What exactly are they doing to ruin it?
> >
> >Stacey
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:19:15 -0800
From: "Dan Rostrom" <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
I can not find the news and news preference. Sorry to be so computer dense!
Kay
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From: HETRICK <HETRICK@prodigy.net>
To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
>Charmaine L. Peck wrote:
>>
>> Hey when you find out, will you let me know? Thanks,
>>
>> Charee
>> serryp@burgoyne.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Rostrom <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
>> To: the list <lds-yw@xmission.com>
>> Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 1:59 PM
>> Subject: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
>>
>> Our email program is Outlook Express. Where do I go to
>> change my name as it is displayed when I send a message?
>> Does anyone know?
>Go in to your mail then in options go to mail and news preferences, then
>to identity and you can change what you want.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:25:05 -0600
From: "The Roberts" <roberts@utw.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Same Boat
I think you hit the nail on the head here!!!!
Liz
> else....FORGET ABOUT IT!!!! I just lov'em, ignore them, and know they're
> immature and will grow out of if at college....Though it's very hard to
us
> all especially the other girls.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:34:38 -0600
From: "The Roberts" <roberts@utw.com>
Subject: (lds-yw) SSis on stake level
Last year they said we did SSis. on the stake level but it was Secret
Wards. They drew wards before the camp and all the girls planned what to
do or give to the whole group of girls each day. They said it was fun.
Liz
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:33:42 -0600
From: Tricia Harris <harrisr@enol.com>
Subject: (lds-yw) Rocks
This would be a great object lesson on time management. The Rocks could represent Scripture study, prayer, etc.
Subject: Rocks
A while back I was reading about an expert on subject of
time management. One day this expert was speaking to a
group of business students and, to drive home a point,
used an illustration those students will never forget.
As this man stood in front of the group of high-powered
overachievers he said, "Okay, time for a quiz."
Then he pulled out a one-gallon, wide-mouthed
mason jar and set it on a table in front of him. Then he
produced about a dozen fist-sized rocks and carefully
placed them, one at a time, into the jar.
When the jar was filled to the top and no
more rocks would fit inside, he asked, "Is this jar full?"
Everyone in the class said, "Yes."
Then he said, "Really?" He reached under
the table and pulled out a bucket of gravel. Then he dumped some
gravel in and shook the jar causing pieces of gravel to work
themselves down into the spaces between the big rocks.
Then he asked the group once more, "Is the jar full?"
By this time the class was onto him.
"Probably not," one of them answered.
"Good!" he replied.
He reached under the table and brought out a bucket of sand.
He started dumping the sand in and it went into all the
spaces left between the rocks and the gravel. Once more
he asked the question, "Is this jar full?"
"No!" the class shouted. Once again he said, "Good!" Then
he grabbed a pitcher of water and began to pour it in until
the jar was filled to the brim. Then he looked up at the
class and asked, "What is the point of this illustration?"
One eager beaver raised his hand and said, "The point is,
no matter how full your schedule is, if you try really
hard, you can always fit some more things into it!"
"No," the speaker replied, "that's not the point. The
truth this illustration teaches us is: If you don't put
the big rocks in first, you'll never get them in at all."
What are the 'big rocks' in your life?
A project that YOU want to accomplish?
Time with your loved ones?
Your faith, your education, your finances?
A cause?
Teaching or mentoring others?
Remember to put these BIG ROCKS in first
or you'll never get them in at all. ---
So, tonight or in the morning when you are reflecting on
this short story, ask yourself this question: What are the 'big
rocks' in my life or business? Then, put those in your jar first.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:41:21 -0600
From: "The Roberts" <roberts@utw.com>
Subject: (lds-yw) pranks
I guess I feel a little guilty because I AM doing a prank at ward camp this
year. The Laurels have been threatening me for a month now on what they
are going to do to me. It has all been in fun. After talking to a friend
- - she gave me this idea - I have decided I am going to sew everything down.
If they leave their sweat shirt on their sleeping bag I will whip stitch
it to the sleeping bag. Socks will be sewn to whatever is close. Anything
put away will be off limits for me. I think it will be fun. Our girls are
very clever and crazy. I am sure they will really make it fun. My friend
said that one year she did this and a funny girl wore her sweatshirt WITH
the sleeping bag sewn on to it around all day. All the Beehives thought it
was hysterical. I think mean pranks should be avoided at all cost but
sometimes light pranks, if you can call them that, really help make camp
fun.
Just my two pennies.
Liz
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:43:34 -0600
From: "The Roberts" <roberts@utw.com>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
Kay,
You are not computer dense!!!! I have no idea what she was saying either.
I think outlook express must be totally different from my Explorer.
Liz
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> From: Dan Rostrom <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
> To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 12:19 PM
>
> I can not find the news and news preference. Sorry to be so computer
dense!
> Kay
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HETRICK <HETRICK@prodigy.net>
> To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com <lds-yw@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
>
>
> >Charmaine L. Peck wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey when you find out, will you let me know? Thanks,
> >>
> >> Charee
> >> serryp@burgoyne.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dan Rostrom <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
> >> To: the list <lds-yw@xmission.com>
> >> Date: Monday, June 29, 1998 1:59 PM
> >> Subject: (lds-yw) Outlook Express
> >>
> >> Our email program is Outlook Express. Where do I go to
> >> change my name as it is displayed when I send a message?
> >> Does anyone know?
> >Go in to your mail then in options go to mail and news preferences, then
> >to identity and you can change what you want.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:41:34 -0800
From: "Dan Rostrom" <drostrom@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Rocks
This is great I think I will use it to show how we have to fit time into our
lives for PP and not just expect it to happen. Thanks
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From: Tricia Harris <harrisr@enol.com>
To: Yw Email List (E-mail) <lds-yw@mail.xmission.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 10:37 AM
Subject: (lds-yw) Rocks
>
>This would be a great object lesson on time management. The Rocks could
represent Scripture study, prayer, etc.
>
>Subject: Rocks
>
>
> A while back I was reading about an expert on subject of
> time management. One day this expert was speaking to a
> group of business students and, to drive home a point,
> used an illustration those students will never forget.
>
> As this man stood in front of the group of high-powered
> overachievers he said, "Okay, time for a quiz."
>
> Then he pulled out a one-gallon, wide-mouthed
> mason jar and set it on a table in front of him. Then he
> produced about a dozen fist-sized rocks and carefully
> placed them, one at a time, into the jar.
>
> When the jar was filled to the top and no
> more rocks would fit inside, he asked, "Is this jar full?"
> Everyone in the class said, "Yes."
>
> Then he said, "Really?" He reached under
> the table and pulled out a bucket of gravel. Then he dumped some
> gravel in and shook the jar causing pieces of gravel to work
> themselves down into the spaces between the big rocks.
> Then he asked the group once more, "Is the jar full?"
> By this time the class was onto him.
> "Probably not," one of them answered.
>
> "Good!" he replied.
> He reached under the table and brought out a bucket of sand.
> He started dumping the sand in and it went into all the
> spaces left between the rocks and the gravel. Once more
> he asked the question, "Is this jar full?"
>
> "No!" the class shouted. Once again he said, "Good!" Then
> he grabbed a pitcher of water and began to pour it in until
> the jar was filled to the brim. Then he looked up at the
> class and asked, "What is the point of this illustration?"
>
> One eager beaver raised his hand and said, "The point is,
> no matter how full your schedule is, if you try really
> hard, you can always fit some more things into it!"
>
> "No," the speaker replied, "that's not the point. The
> truth this illustration teaches us is: If you don't put
> the big rocks in first, you'll never get them in at all."
>
> What are the 'big rocks' in your life?
> A project that YOU want to accomplish?
> Time with your loved ones?
> Your faith, your education, your finances?
> A cause?
> Teaching or mentoring others?
> Remember to put these BIG ROCKS in first
> or you'll never get them in at all. ---
>
> So, tonight or in the morning when you are reflecting on
> this short story, ask yourself this question: What are the 'big
> rocks' in my life or business? Then, put those in your jar first.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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