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lds-yw-digest          Saturday, June 6 1998          Volume 01 : Number 111




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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:19:38 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) Sunflowers

Dear Sisters:

A while back someone posted this - I wonder if anyone knows who wrote it??  I
must have inadvertantly cut that off when I was "cutting and pasting"!!!  I
would like to give credit where it's due  --  Thank you so much!!!!!!

Nancy in MO


Sunflowers

Sunflowers  always  face  the  sun.   In  the  morning, they face east.  By
evening,  they  have  turned  west.  They follow the sun as it crosses each
day's  sky,  so they can gather in as much sun as possible.  We can be like
sunflowers,  and  turn to the SON, Jesus Christ, and gather spiritual light
from him.

A sunflower's seed will grow almost anywhere.  You, too, can bloom and grow
where  you  are  planted.   By  desiring  to  believe  and  by studying the
scriptures prayerfully, you will nurture your personal gospel seed.

As  the  sunflower  grows,  small birds soon appear, surround by protecting
leaves.  Like those leaves, your parents, Young Women leaders, and teachers
surround  you,  and  love  you,  and  protect  you,  and  help your budding
testimony grow.

As  a  sunflower grows taller, its stalk grows thicker, for it must support
the  large flower that will soon be full of seeds.  So your spiritual stalk
must  grow,  and  your testimony will grow stronger as you prayerfully read
the scriptures that teach of Jesus Christ and strive to become like him.

When  the  sunflower  bud  opens,  bright  yellow petals form, and its head
becomes a golden crown.  The blessings of its growth at last begin to show.
 And,  having  been  born  of  a seed, it now produces seeds of its own
that nourish  people,  animals  and birds.  Your testimony will likewise
produce its own new seeds, and you will nourish family, friends and others
who will see  the  Son  reflected,  like a golden crown, in you, for you
have become like Him.

So  turn  to  the  Son.  Open your heart to His light.  Seek it first thing
each morning.  Follow its warmth across each day's sky, and let its comfort
be  the  last  thing  you  feel each night.  Then, when the evening of your
life's  last  setting  comes,  you will arise to a glorious new morning and
turn again to Him and he will see His image in your countenance.
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 10:29:42 -0700
From: "Dave Morris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble

    From time to time, we have had different young people come to stay with
our family.  One of the most recent was a young man with many problems
(including the fact that he was dishonest).  I didn't worry that my
children would pick up his bad habits, and they didn't.  I had a teenage
boy and a preteenage girl at the time.  My two older boys were on a missi=
on
and at college.  He really respected and liked the teenage boy, but that
didn't change his behaviors.  Also, my son didn't change his behaviors.  =
If
anything, he saw the results of poor decisions and was more firm in his
standards.  They were friends on the level that they talked and my son
learned a little guitar from him and they shared a room. =20
    I guess what I'm saying is that, if it was me, I wouldn't worry about
including her on family activities and encouraging a friendship on YOUR
turf.  You still have your rules, which SHE would be expected to honor.  =
If
she invites your daughter to go somewhere, that is different.  I would wa=
nt
to know who was going and what the activities were.  Treat this girl as i=
f
she was one of your girls.  Tell her "I'd rather you girls didn't go out
with that crowd" or "You girls are just to precious to me to be around th=
at
kind of influence."  Give her alternative suggestions, such as "Oh why
don't we all just go rent a movie."  or go swimming or...whatever.  Help
her to see that you can have fun (and it IS more fun when you can and wan=
t
to remember it the next day!) and have high standards.  When my kids were
feeling adventurous, I took them and their friends toilet papering at 1 i=
n
the morning.  We would plan and scheme and buy different colors (that mak=
es
it so pretty!)  Of course, we only went to someone's house who we knew
wouldn't mind.   We had a blast and I knew who they were with and what th=
ey
were doing.  It may require a sacrifice of time, some household
organization and a few other luxuries you're used to--but in the long run=
,
you have the chance to change a life; and that's what's really important.=
=20
If you see a problem developing, then deal with it when it comes up--but =
I
wouldn't avoid the situation just because a problem MAY develop. =20
    Those are just my general feelings on the subject, of course.  You are t=
he
one that is there and you know your daughter and this girl better than
anyone on this list.  I am sure that you will make the best decision for
your family and this girl.  Just remember, the Lord has confidence in you
or He wouldn't have given you this assignment and with His help, you can
accomplish miracles!  =DC  Kathy in CA
- ----------
From: Terri French <[e-mail]>
To: yw list <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble
Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 6:51 AM

Dear List Members,
I apologize for this being so long.  It's a story that takes a bit of
background to
tell.  I want you to know how much this list has helped me.  When I first
joined
about 2 1/2 months ago, I wrote about two girls in my large Beehive group
who felt
like they don't belong.  You all gave me great advice.  Last night I had =
an
interesting experience with one of the girls that I would like to share
with all who
are interested.

One of these 13 year olds is a troubled girl.  She is the third child in =
a
family of
seven.  Her older sisters have both had many problems themselves.  They a=
ll
look the
part of the "troubled teen"--colored hair, black make-up, excessive
jewelry, wild
clothes, offensive language---you get the picture.  The girl in my class
got into
trouble with the law this year by joining a gang at the middle school all
the girls
in my class attend.  Her parents pulled her out of that school and sent h=
er
to
another middle school in our district.  I think that most of the girls in
my class
are intimidated by her.  My "troubled girl's" father is a policeman.  Fro=
m
what I
have seen, he treats his girls in a very authoritarian way.  Just last
Sunday, I
stopped by their house to pick up two of the girls for BYC.  One of them
"good-bye
Dad" as she went out the door.  Evidently Dad didn't hear them and came o=
ut
to the
car and yelled at them, in front of me, for not letting him know they are
leaving.
I'm sure that their dad is just frustrated with them and this is the only
way he
knows how to deal with it.  Dad seems to be home more than mom.

Last night, this girl showed up on my doorstep and asked if she could tal=
k
to me.  We
found a quiet place and she proceeded to tell me that her parents were no=
t
at home.
She was supposed to be going out with a friend, but at the last minute he=
r
friend
cancelled.  I could tell that she was very disappointed about this.  She
doesn't have
many friends--as you can imagine.  Then her older sister said, "Good, now
that you
will be home, you can babysit and I can go out with my friends."  Well th=
is
started a
big family fight and big sister ended up calling "My Beehive" some very
awful names
(which I will not repeat on this list).  So, "My Beehive" ran off from ho=
me
without
telling anyone where she was.  She showed up at my house and said that sh=
e
did not
want to go home.  Well, here I was, wondering what to do.  Believe me, I
said some
silent prayers!  I knew that her Dad would be out looking for her as soon
as he found
out she was missing.  I was so grateful for the advice of all of you abou=
t
not coming
in between a girl and her parents.  I talked to her for a while about
getting along
and dealing with disappointment.  I also told her that I could tell that
she was a
good girl with a great heart.  She was just trying to find her way.  We
also talked a
little about treating each other with kindness and love instead of yellin=
g
and
screaming.  I then tried to talk her into going back home.  She didn't wa=
nt
to.  I
told her she could stay and watch the Jazz game with us if she had the
permission of
her parents.  She tried to call her parents at work and also her house.  =
No
one
answered.  I knew that they were probably all out looking for her.

I said, "Let's get on our bikes and ride back to your house and see what
everyone is
doing."  We took off on our bikes and halfway up the block, we met her da=
d,
in his
police car and police uniform.  He started screaming at the girl, telling
her that he
was going to turn her in as a runaway.  He said, "Get home right now."=20
Well she took
off and I went to the Dad's car to tell him what had happened.  He was so
angry.  I
said, "Just remember, there is a good girl with a great heart.  She was
just very
hurt and disappointed tonight and for some reason, she sees me as a frien=
d.
 She
needed a friend to talk to.  I asked if I could ride my bike to her house
and let her
know that I hadn't turned against her.  Her dad said yes.  I could see hi=
m
softening
up.  I got there and told "My girl" that I knew that she could work this
out with her
 dad and I said, "You come and visit me anytime--just get your parents
permission
first.  Then I said to her dad, "I'll bet you would let her come and talk
if she
would like"  He said that would be fine.

Later, last night, her dad called to thank me.  He said that they had a
wonderful
talk and "My girl" hugged him before he went back to work.

Now, I guess this story has a happy ending.  Here is the big dilemma.  Ho=
w
much do I
encourage the girls in my class to be friends with this girl?  My daughte=
r
is one of
the other Beehives.  I would not feel comfortable if my daughter was out
doing
something with this girl.  If I invited her to do something with my famil=
y,
it would
be encouraging my daughter to be friends with her.  I am really torn with
this.  If
this "troubled girl" changes and gets out of trouble, I would have no
problem with my
daughter being her friend.  How have any of you handled a similar
situation.

Thanks for all your great advice,
Terri French
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 10:33:42 -0700
From: "Dave Morris" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Lesson Help

         The Towel
At first glance, one looks at a kitchen towel and thinks,
"Wow, a towel.....I need a new one, or "Wow, a towel, the old
ones are getting stained and worn."  But have we ever stopped=20
to think that for years, even thousands of years, the towel has
not just been used in the kitchen, but for a variety of reasons!

Take, for example, the mother who wiped the tears of a little
child to soothe the physical and emotional hurt; the physician
who binds the wounds of a bleeding patient; the woman in her
home wiping her hands as she moves from task to task; the=20
weary traveler who wipes his sweated brow.  Some other
examples would be the manager of a boxer who "throws in the
towel" to save the life of his prot=E9g=E9e or the young man wiping=20
the grease off his hands as he fixes the old jalopy.

Notwithstanding all of the above examples, perhaps the most
significant use of the towel was about two thousand years ago
when our loving brother took an ordinary towel in His hands and=20
dried the feet of his disciples only hours before His crucifixion.
Sure, the towel is a hands item with a myriad of uses, but it
also has deep symbolic meaning when seen in the hands of the
Savior doing a work of kindness for his fellow men.

So take this towel, knowing it is given with love, and do works
of kindness with it as the Savior worked goodness with His so
many years ago.

- ----------
> From: PAUL CHAPMAN <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (lds-yw) Lesson Help
> Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 8:06 AM
>=20
> Dear Sisters,
>=20
> About a month or two ago there was an idea posted for the value Good
> Works.  It was an object lesson using a towel and how Christ washed the
> deciples feet and I think some other things.  Then they gave all the
> girls a yellow towel with a flower in it or something like that.  I
> thought I had it and I went looking for it in my files this morning and
> of course I can't find it.  Does anyone have it?  If so, could you
> please send it to me.  I need it for my lesson tomorrow.  Thanks, Sue
>=20
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:42:38 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Cheapo Scrapbooking

I was able to get some archival safe plastic sleeves at OfficeMax  at 200 for
about $10.  We also got inexpensive binders there and padded them for their
scrapbooks.  I think the binders were under $3 each.  It was a great activity.
The padding is inexpensive and everybody brought their scraps of fabric.  The
glue sticks were 15 for $1 and we used about 60-70 of them...that surprised
me.  Buy plenty if you plan to do this.  We had 15 girls.  I didn't know about
the paper and bought acid free but Michaels had a packet about 3/8" thick for
$2.00 on sale.  We divided it into 3 sections; Past, Present, Future.
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:57:10 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) Planning for weather

Does anyone have tons of ideas for rain or snow activities to do at camp when
it is bad weather?  It doesn't look good right now.  Apparently it snowed 4"
on Thursday and we go on the 15th.  Only 4-wheel drives made it up.  We are
hoping for a great change in the weather....the stake is optimistic.
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 16:09:27 -0700
From: Susan & Richard <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) urgent on bishop lesson!

I still need some help on my Bishop lesson. I've mentioned before that
I'm in a temporary situation so my books are all in storage! I don't
have one extra story or poem etc on a good bishop. and our bishop is so
great.  please! any ideas? I need some filler here. the girls are
bringing paper to write thank yous but I need something to really make
them think how much a bishop does for us.Susan


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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:39:27 -0600
From: "Terri French" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble

I appreciate your message.  I called my Bishop today.  He gave me the same advice.
He told me not to let my daughter go out with this troubled girl alone.  But, he said
that I should find ways to include her with the girls in our ward as long as we have
very strict rules about language, behavior, etc.  Your suggestions were great.

Love,
Terri French
[e-mail]


In a message dated 98-06-06 09:57:17 EDT, you write:

<<
Now, I guess this story has a happy ending.  Here is the big dilemma.  How
much do I
encourage the girls in my class to be friends with this girl?  My daughter is
one of
the other Beehives.  I would not feel comfortable if my daughter was out
doing
something with this girl.  If I invited her to do something with my family,
it would
be encouraging my daughter to be friends with her.  I am really torn with
this.  If
this "troubled girl" changes and gets out of trouble, I would have no problem
with my
daughter being her friend.  How have any of you handled a similar situation.
  >>

How will she "change" if she doesn't have anyone to help her change, or give
her another choice of activities and friends. I think it in unrealistic to
think this girl is going to desert any "bad" friends, change on her own, to
then be worthy of "good" friends. She needs to be accepted & loved (spend time
with) good friends now who show her that there are other choices, that show
her that she is good & worthy of "good" friends NOW, and that overlook
anything "bad" about her. In my estimation people will live up to our
expectations. You hit on an important key by telling her she was good person
with a good heart. She needs to see herself as a good person with a good
heart. She won't believe it until she is treated that way... and if the kids
avoid her and parents won't let anyone spend time with her... that is a
totally different message. If she has no one to spend time with or validate
her that is "good", she really is just stuck in the same rut of trying to be
friends with just anyone that will have her and then going along with their
dress, talk, behavior, etc. to fit in. That's all this girl wants... to be
loved and have friends, to be accepted... and so that is what she is doing to
be accepted by this other group. She is conforming to her "friends".
I'm sure it is deeper than all that... and there certainly is some problems
with parents & siblings in that family... but that is just what jumped in my
head reading about this girl. She needs the good friends now... people that
see the good inside her, & ignore all the rest. She'll become as she is
treated.
What about a frank and honest talk with your daughter about what this girl
needs & how much you love her, but also what the lines are & how important it
is for her to not lower her standards... maybe set up some boundaries, etc. of
what you feel good about her doing with her, and what you don't. Your
daughters explanation can just be "I'm not allowed to do that.... let's go do
such and such a thing instead".
I guess it depends on your daughter & her maturity, her abillity to stand up
for her standards, and her integrity in obeying the rules (or boundaries
you've agreed on) when you are not around. But the whole class needs to
friendship her.
Don't know if that helps...

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 14:45:07 -0600
From: "Terri French" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble

You know, your advice is great.  All day I have been having the same thou=
ghts about
just not worrying too much about what problems could develop from this si=
tuation.
Just take each moment as it comes and work things out as they happen.  An=
d--of
course,  pray a lot!

Love,
Terri French
[e-mail]

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dave Morris <[e-mail]>
To: YW List <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble


From time to time, we have had different young people come to stay with
our family.  One of the most recent was a young man with many problems
(including the fact that he was dishonest).  I didn't worry that my
children would pick up his bad habits, and they didn't.  I had a teenage
boy and a preteenage girl at the time.  My two older boys were on a missi=
on
and at college.  He really respected and liked the teenage boy, but that
didn't change his behaviors.  Also, my son didn't change his behaviors.  =
If
anything, he saw the results of poor decisions and was more firm in his
standards.  They were friends on the level that they talked and my son
learned a little guitar from him and they shared a room.
I guess what I'm saying is that, if it was me, I wouldn't worry about
including her on family activities and encouraging a friendship on YOUR
turf.  You still have your rules, which SHE would be expected to honor.  =
If
she invites your daughter to go somewhere, that is different.  I would wa=
nt
to know who was going and what the activities were.  Treat this girl as i=
f
she was one of your girls.  Tell her "I'd rather you girls didn't go out
with that crowd" or "You girls are just to precious to me to be around th=
at
kind of influence."  Give her alternative suggestions, such as "Oh why
don't we all just go rent a movie."  or go swimming or...whatever.  Help
her to see that you can have fun (and it IS more fun when you can and wan=
t
to remember it the next day!) and have high standards.  When my kids were
feeling adventurous, I took them and their friends toilet papering at 1 i=
n
the morning.  We would plan and scheme and buy different colors (that mak=
es
it so pretty!)  Of course, we only went to someone's house who we knew
wouldn't mind.   We had a blast and I knew who they were with and what th=
ey
were doing.  It may require a sacrifice of time, some household
organization and a few other luxuries you're used to--but in the long run=
,
you have the chance to change a life; and that's what's really important.
If you see a problem developing, then deal with it when it comes up--but =
I
wouldn't avoid the situation just because a problem MAY develop.
Those are just my general feelings on the subject, of course.  You are th=
e
one that is there and you know your daughter and this girl better than
anyone on this list.  I am sure that you will make the best decision for
your family and this girl.  Just remember, the Lord has confidence in you
or He wouldn't have given you this assignment and with His help, you can
accomplish miracles!  =DC  Kathy in CA
- ----------
From: Terri French <[e-mail]>
To: yw list <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble
Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 6:51 AM

Dear List Members,
I apologize for this being so long.  It's a story that takes a bit of
background to
tell.  I want you to know how much this list has helped me.  When I first
joined
about 2 1/2 months ago, I wrote about two girls in my large Beehive group
who felt
like they don't belong.  You all gave me great advice.  Last night I had =
an
interesting experience with one of the girls that I would like to share
with all who
are interested.

One of these 13 year olds is a troubled girl.  She is the third child in =
a
family of
seven.  Her older sisters have both had many problems themselves.  They a=
ll
look the
part of the "troubled teen"--colored hair, black make-up, excessive
jewelry, wild
clothes, offensive language---you get the picture.  The girl in my class
got into
trouble with the law this year by joining a gang at the middle school all
the girls
in my class attend.  Her parents pulled her out of that school and sent h=
er
to
another middle school in our district.  I think that most of the girls in
my class
are intimidated by her.  My "troubled girl's" father is a policeman.  Fro=
m
what I
have seen, he treats his girls in a very authoritarian way.  Just last
Sunday, I
stopped by their house to pick up two of the girls for BYC.  One of them
"good-bye
Dad" as she went out the door.  Evidently Dad didn't hear them and came o=
ut
to the
car and yelled at them, in front of me, for not letting him know they are
leaving.
I'm sure that their dad is just frustrated with them and this is the only
way he
knows how to deal with it.  Dad seems to be home more than mom.

Last night, this girl showed up on my doorstep and asked if she could tal=
k
to me.  We
found a quiet place and she proceeded to tell me that her parents were no=
t
at home.
She was supposed to be going out with a friend, but at the last minute he=
r
friend
cancelled.  I could tell that she was very disappointed about this.  She
doesn't have
many friends--as you can imagine.  Then her older sister said, "Good, now
that you
will be home, you can babysit and I can go out with my friends."  Well th=
is
started a
big family fight and big sister ended up calling "My Beehive" some very
awful names
(which I will not repeat on this list).  So, "My Beehive" ran off from ho=
me
without
telling anyone where she was.  She showed up at my house and said that sh=
e
did not
want to go home.  Well, here I was, wondering what to do.  Believe me, I
said some
silent prayers!  I knew that her Dad would be out looking for her as soon
as he found
out she was missing.  I was so grateful for the advice of all of you abou=
t
not coming
in between a girl and her parents.  I talked to her for a while about
getting along
and dealing with disappointment.  I also told her that I could tell that
she was a
good girl with a great heart.  She was just trying to find her way.  We
also talked a
little about treating each other with kindness and love instead of yellin=
g
and
screaming.  I then tried to talk her into going back home.  She didn't wa=
nt
to.  I
told her she could stay and watch the Jazz game with us if she had the
permission of
her parents.  She tried to call her parents at work and also her house.  =
No
one
answered.  I knew that they were probably all out looking for her.

I said, "Let's get on our bikes and ride back to your house and see what
everyone is
doing."  We took off on our bikes and halfway up the block, we met her da=
d,
in his
police car and police uniform.  He started screaming at the girl, telling
her that he
was going to turn her in as a runaway.  He said, "Get home right now."
Well she took
off and I went to the Dad's car to tell him what had happened.  He was so
angry.  I
said, "Just remember, there is a good girl with a great heart.  She was
just very
hurt and disappointed tonight and for some reason, she sees me as a frien=
d.
She
needed a friend to talk to.  I asked if I could ride my bike to her house
and let her
know that I hadn't turned against her.  Her dad said yes.  I could see hi=
m
softening
up.  I got there and told "My girl" that I knew that she could work this
out with her
dad and I said, "You come and visit me anytime--just get your parents
permission
first.  Then I said to her dad, "I'll bet you would let her come and talk
if she
would like"  He said that would be fine.

Later, last night, her dad called to thank me.  He said that they had a
wonderful
talk and "My girl" hugged him before he went back to work.

Now, I guess this story has a happy ending.  Here is the big dilemma.  Ho=
w
much do I
encourage the girls in my class to be friends with this girl?  My daughte=
r
is one of
the other Beehives.  I would not feel comfortable if my daughter was out
doing
something with this girl.  If I invited her to do something with my famil=
y,
it would
be encouraging my daughter to be friends with her.  I am really torn with
this.  If
this "troubled girl" changes and gets out of trouble, I would have no
problem with my
daughter being her friend.  How have any of you handled a similar
situation.

Thanks for all your great advice,
Terri French
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:59:54 -0700
From: "Bill/Sue Guest" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) reaching out to a girl in trouble

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this.  If this "troubled girl" changes and gets out of >trouble, I would =
have no problem with my daughter being her friend. =20
    =20
    I don't know what to tell you to do, but I can just tell you that 9 =
or 10 years ago my niece was that "troubled girl" .  She was a beehive =
too, her parents had just divorced and her step mother didn't care much =
for her, so when she started running around with the rough crowd step =
mom (who was working in YW) told other parents not to let their =
daughters associate with Melanie because she was "trouble"....I think =
she was still a pretty good kid at that time, and I have often wondered =
if the YW in the ward had reached out to her how her life would have =
been different....anyway she ran away and lived on the streets for a =
couple years, when she was 18 she got pregnant, but she actually was =
lucky, that's probably what saved her life.....she quit smoking and =
drinking because of the baby, she came back home, married her boyfriend =
and now has a beautiful son.  She is a wonderful, conscientious mother =
and her husband is a great guy, really good to her and their little boy, =
BUT she still is out of the church.  We all pray that some day her =
husband will soften toward the church and maybe even join, or at least =
she will start coming out again, but like I said, I do believe her life =
could've been much different if the YW would've loved her in, instead of =
pushing her out.  I know it's a hard thing to deal with, because I have =
a 14 year old daughter, but I think  you can invite the YW over in =
controlled circumstances and not compromise your daughter or the other =
YW.
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 17:13:05 -0500
From: Lorrie Blake <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) Weekly Activites at the Church

Hi All!
I just subscribed to the list and have a question.

I have about 13 Beehive girls.  Do any of you have
any good ideas (not necessarily spectacular) for
the weekly class activites?  We usually meet at
the church.  We have class activities on the 1st
and 4th weeks.  On the 2nd week is a joint YW
activity and on the 3rd week is YM/YW joint
activity.  So I only need to plan the 1st and 4th
weeks.  I am trying to get the class presidency
involved in planning also.  Anyway, what have been
good class activities that can be done at the
church that have no cost or very minimal, that
don't involve the cultural hall or kitchen (the
1st week activity is also on the Homemaking day of
another ward).  My house is about 18 minutes away
from the church so if we did it my house, we would
lose a little more than 1/2 hour for travel time.

Anyway, ANY ideas for activities would be
appreciative.  I'm finding the YW aren't as eager
for Personal Achievement goals as Cub Scouts are,
or as teachable as Primary kids are.  But I'm sure
there is a way.

Thanks,
Lorrie in KC,MO

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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 15:51:10 -0500
From: PAUL CHAPMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: (lds-yw) Warm Fuzzies

Did anyone ever post the story about the warm fuzzies?  Did I miss it?
I remember when I was a young girl that story was going around.  It was
about the warm fuzzies and cold pricklie.  The cold pricklies being cut
downs and things that made people feel bad.  It was a cute story. The
fuzzies and the pricklies were actual little creatures in a town or
something.  Any way, if any one has it I would love to have it. Thanks,
Sue C.

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:54:25 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Weekly Activites at the Church

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Colleen Bester@TRANSALTA
06/06/98 04:54 PM

Hi,
Just a few Beehive activities off the top of my head, that my girls have
liked (we have 8 to 10 usually, each week).

- - a games night, where they brought games they wanted to play
- - we painted terra cotta flower pots and planted a little plant for their
mothers (this would be easier now that the weather is nice, and you could
go outside)
- - we had a genealogy night where our ward specialist talked about genealogy
and then took them in small groups and looked up some names on the computer
- - we had something else going on at the same time (I forget what) for the
other girls to do
- - this week, we are going to a softball game, of one of the girls
- - just about the favorite thing is to come to my house and make cookies. We
meet from 7 - 9, so we lose about 1/2 hour of travelling time too, but we
still have enough time to make them and package them up, and then go back
to the Church and give them to the Bishopric, or my advisor and I deliver
them during the week
- - making beeswax candles
- - skating in the winter (free!)
- - another fun activity was with the moms, but could be done just with the
girls. We made masks (from avocados and stuff like that), and soaked their
feet, and then the girls brought their nail polish and did their mom's
nails

For Personal Progress, we resorted to "bribery". In January, I made a chart
with pictures of banana splits, with 7 things to colour in.  Then, they had
until this week to do 7 goals, and earn a banana split.  If they did less
goals, they got less toppings, or not as many scoops of ice cream.  Almost
all of the girls did the 7 goals, including a girl who is investigating the
Church.  They liked it so much, they want to do it again for the next 6
months, and work towards a pizza party.


Colleen



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Hi All!
I just subscribed to the list and have a question.
I have about 13 Beehive girls.  Do any of you have
any good ideas (not necessarily spectacular) for
the weekly class activites?  We usually meet at
the church.  We have class activities on the 1st
and 4th weeks.  On the 2nd week is a joint YW
activity and on the 3rd week is YM/YW joint
activity.  So I only need to plan the 1st and 4th
weeks.  I am trying to get the class presidency
involved in planning also.  Anyway, what have been
good class activities that can be done at the
church that have no cost or very minimal, that
don't involve the cultural hall or kitchen (the
1st week activity is also on the Homemaking day of
another ward).  My house is about 18 minutes away
from the church so if we did it my house, we would
lose a little more than 1/2 hour for travel time.
Anyway, ANY ideas for activities would be
appreciative.  I'm finding the YW aren't as eager
for Personal Achievement goals as Cub Scouts are,
or as teachable as Primary kids are.  But I'm sure
there is a way.
Thanks,
Lorrie in KC,MO
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