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klr650-digest        Sunday, September 19 1999        Volume 02 : Number 909



Re: (klr650) Calling the KLR650 Eh Team! <CAN_Rally>
Re: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?
Re: (klr650) Lemon Pledge NKLR
Re: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?
Re: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?
Re: (klr650) NKLR  Park City Utah
Re: (klr650) NKLR calling klr650 eh team
Re: (klr650) tweeeeeet already??????
Re: (klr650) KLR650 valve timing
Re: (klr650) NKLR  Park City Utah
Re: (klr650) Cleaning the rear rim
Re: (klr650) Mexico Stage II
Re: (klr650) NKLR calling klr650 eh team
(klr650) Hard Panniers
Re: (klr650) Acerbis Rally Hand Guards

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:03:29 -0700
From: Brian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Calling the KLR650 Eh Team! <CAN_Rally>

OK, it's Mr.T here..... I'm in for the Western Canadian Tour, and would be
more than happy to help out.... not run it but I can put together a ton of
routes that are KLR worthy - plus I don't mind giving write ups and giving
difficulty ratings of the trails around here...Central to Western British
Columbia has well in excess of a couple thousand kilometres of pure KLR
pleasure...so there is no shortage to keep a good group busy for a good five
days... Now I have seen numerous mentions of riding in Banff Lake Louise and
Canmore area... I lived there some time back - and if you are familiar with
the Canadian National Parks System there is no where to ride up that way...
Most trails start in the Kootneys and go westward, and if we make it a central
location i.e.. Kelowna then we have a large city and the facilities it
supplies (camping, food, parts) and it is a great location to start in any
direction from at the beginning of each day...that is if we want to meet a
central base each night... so I know who 'Face' is ;^) , but we need the guy
that 'Loves it when a plan comes together' -- Murdoch you out there.... we can
start planning now and maybe make for mid next year - Canada Day (July 1st)
maybe ? .... BA 'out'....

[e-mail] wrote:

>      It seems that there are a few listers within meeting distance in AB
>      and BC (Arne, Vik, Yours truly, et al.). If anyone is interested in a
>      meeting somewhere central next year, (Okanagon Valley, Kootenays,
>      Central Interior, Banff-Lake Louise-Jasper etc.), e-mail me off-line.
>
>      On a similar note, I have this fantasy of mounting a Canadian
>      challenge to the annual Moab trek!  Not in competition with Moab, in
>      conjunction with it.  I think in the spirit of good neighborly
>      relations it would be fun to bring our American fellow listers over
>      the border and get them tipsy on real beer (kidding).
>
>      If any listers have comments or ideas let me know.
>
>      Cheers
>
>      Rob
>
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:11:42 -0700
From: "Vik Banerjee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?

Givi makes good top cases and they should be available in the UK.

Cheers,

Vik


- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 10:24 AM
Subject: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?


>Anyone have a recommendation for a decent top box for
>a UK '99 KLR650, which is reasonably easily available
>in the UK?
>
>Thanks,
>Andy
>
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:21:49 -0700
From: wildBill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Lemon Pledge NKLR

>Thanks for the warning on yellowing. Most acrylics and lexan are water
>based and are sensitive to solvents. If you check the MSDS's on lemon
>pledge and plexus you will find them to be very simular, right down to the
>lemon scent (not citrus solvents) they both contain.  Plexus may be
>better  for plastics as that is it main intended use but let's not assume
>lemon pledge is citrus based because of it's name.  Now can anyone tell me
>what will take polyurethane paint specs off my helmet and bike? Some
>friggin bridge painters oversprayed me on a trip last weekend.  WB


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:40:51 PDT
From: "James Chan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?

Andy,
Having worked in the UK a bit, would definitely agree with Vik and Kurt, you
may want to go for the 45L version (nuff space for 2 helmets)... a GIVI
would also be good if you ride to work so that you can carry it off with you
into the office to avoid it being nicked or pryed into...
JC


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>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?
>Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:23:55 +0100
>
>Anyone have a recommendation for a decent top box for
>a UK '99 KLR650, which is reasonably easily available
>in the UK?
>
>Thanks,
>Andy
>
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>http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:42:56 +0100 (BST)
From: Yusseri Yusoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) (UK Mainly) Top Box Recommendation?

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> Anyone have a recommendation for a decent top box for
> a UK '99 KLR650, which is reasonably easily available
> in the UK?
>

GIVI. M&P does 'em and most other dealers too.

OTOH, I use the super cheapo Nonfango one. 30 ltrs. Fits one helmet. Also
comes with its own fitting bracket. 40 quid at M'cycle City. I like it,
but I don't really need to lug around loads of stuff.

I also got the Oxford tank bag that is supposedly curved specially for
sloping tanks. Supposedly, because I can't see the difference from any
other tank bag out there.

Cheers,

Yus

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 03:55:26 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR  Park City Utah

> Kurt (intoxicated from the smell and sight of motorycles ripping through
the streets of
> Park City at 120 mph)

What are we missing?

Arne


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 04:07:53 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR calling klr650 eh team

From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
To: klr650 <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR calling klr650 eh team


> Arne Larsen wrote:
> [...]
> > Amongst the Eh Team I know (Murdoch, Mr T, and myself) we're running two
> > trapps and a Gun...
>
> That can't be me you're talking about, my B1 Bomber still runs the
> original 1985 exhaust, Farting Budgie et al.
> You'd think the FB would die of old age, but they made them tough
> back then.
>
> Mister_T


Nope... The MR T I'm talking about played a character called "BJ Barrackus".
There was also 'Face", "Murdoch", and George Peppard's character "Hannible".
The name of the old show was called "The A Team", and they used to save the
day and blow shit up on a continual basis.  The funny thing about it though
was that for all the explosions, bombings, automatic weapons, etc..  no one
ever got hurt.

Arne (Face)


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 04:19:33 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) tweeeeeet already??????

From: Skip Faulkner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) tweeeeeet already??????


> I`ll draw a different angle diagram to show where to cut
> and drill for those interested.
>
> Skip

Please do Skip!  Bill's always in the market for fresh meat for the website.
=^)

Arne


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 04:49:31 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 valve timing

> If you are keen, or know a machine shop that is keen, you could put
> some extra holes in both the sprockets and the shafts at certain
> intervals so that you could have a simple vernier adjustment.
> For example, you could have 9 holes on the cam and maybe 10 holes
> on the sprocket, degree intervals that would be not to hard to index.
> (I got this idea out of Phil Irving's "Tuning for Speed" book.
> Although this book was written back in the days of Norton singles and
> stuff, our bikes are none too different: single cylinder, roller
> bottom end with built up crank etc.)
>
> Or, if you wanted to keep it simple, it shouldn't be super difficult
> for a machinist to just slot the hole in the sprocket.
>

I would think that this would increase the stresses in the sprocket,
especially intensively around the new holes, or around the existing hole in
the sprocket, which could result in stress cracks.  The sprocket isn't
subject to extreme torques, but the torque it receives is pulsed, and I have
seen camshaft sprockets crack before where they bolt onto the camshaft.
Bottom line, I wouldn't bother unless you plan on blueprinting everything
else on the motor at the same time, and even then I wonder what performance
would be gained.  Also, if the cams and sprockets are a little out when
blueprinting, I'd be suspecting the cam chain, as there is a lot more
potential for imprecision there.  Just a thought.

Jeff


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 05:47:30 PDT
From: "CrazyDave" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR  Park City Utah

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 03:55:26 -0700, Arne Larsen wrote:

>
> > Kurt (intoxicated from the smell and sight of motorycles ripping
through
> the streets of
> > Park City at 120 mph)
>
> What are we missing?
>
> Arne
>
>
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120????  Here in Phoenix last week we had a guy stopped for 143mph on a city
street.  It was the highest speed ever clocked by radar in the state.
$1,000 and up to 30 days in jail.  He also agreed to get rid of the bike.
It was his first ticket and he WAS a limo driver.

CrazyDave  (not the one with a 143mph KLR650)




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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 06:00:44 -0700
From: "Mark Machin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Cleaning the rear rim

Juan-

I asked this same question when I purchased my KLR this summer.  The
majority of responses stated best success with using kerosene or Simple
Green.

My experience showed that the kerosene was necessary to get the really
stubborn chain lube and grime off.  The full strength Simple Green was fine
for normal mud and dirt but didn't really do much better than regular soap
and water.

Mark
A13

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Juan Villarreal <[e-mail]>
To: KLR  650 <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 9:42 AM
Subject: (klr650) Cleaning the rear rim


> Fellow listas-
>
> I've searched in the archives and came up empty
> on ways to clean my rear rim.  It has a lot of
> crud on it (mud, chain lube, oil, and the like)
> that I'm wanting to remove.  I seem to remember a
> thread from a while back that mentioned WD-40
> (careful with the tires!) and full strength
> Simple Green as potential cleaners.  Am I on to
> something or was it all just a twisted dream?
> Let me know what's worked for YOU!  Much tanks...




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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 07:28:31 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Mexico Stage II

> Both trips are intended to take us out of our ordinary way of doing things
> and experience life at slower, however more intense way. That is my intent,
> anyway.
>
> It's all about beauty, you know?
>
> Saludos,
>
> Juan


Juan, you keep this up and you'll become the first poet laureate of the KLR list (g)....

Kurt


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 07:34:42 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR calling klr650 eh team

> Nope... The MR T I'm talking about played a character called "BJ Barrackus".

yeah, as I recall Mr. T was a bouncer before coming a TV star...he late reached his zenith
appearing against Sly Stallone in one of the Rocky films...(Rocky II?)....

Kurt


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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:56:20 -0400
From: Rodger & Hypatia Day <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Hard Panniers

In a message on 13 Sept 99,  Matt wrote that he was looking for the
cheapest lockable store-bought hard bag possible.

The cheapest way I have found is to use Pelican Cases (World's Toughest
Watertight Equipment Cases) with Dave "Jake" Jakeman's mounting
brackets.  The whole set up can be had for less than $500.00.  Jake has
been using these on his own KLR for a few years and has never had a
problem with them.  You can contact him at Sagebrush Machine Shop,
Milford, UT   [phone].   Jake is an unlimited wealth of knowledge
on the KLR, motorcycle and camping equipment.  Some of you might
recognize his name from the articles he has written in the DSN
newsletter.  If you go to    www.dualsport.org     and read the article
on highway pegs for the KLR 650 in the archives, there is a picture of
Jake with the Pelican Cases mounted on his KLR.

Jake loves to talk about his KLR and will spend as much time as needed
to answer any questions you might have.

I am ordering two sets of his mounting brackets and he said that if we
could get more people to order at this time, he would be able to give a
break on the price.   He has found the cheapest place to buy the Pelican
Cases.  He has some great  KLR Hints, Tips and Recommendations  that he
is willing to share.

Rodger, A3

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:28:38 -0700
From: "kaddee lawrence" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Acerbis Rally Hand Guards

I've heard people talk about these as replacements to the (rather
weak) stock hand guards.  I also remember that they can be a pain
in the butt to get on around the brake master cylinder.  Moose makes
aluminum hand guards with plastic spoilers.  Has anyone tried these?
Are they any easier/harder to mount?  Do they do as good/better/worse
job of keeping stuff off your hands and keeping your hands out of the
wind.  I mostly use my KLR for commuting and occasionally some light duty
fire roads.  Any help is appreciated
kd


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