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klr650-digest        Friday, September 10 1999        Volume 02 : Number 873



(klr650) bonehead
Re: (klr650) KLR650 to kick-start
RE: (klr650) New listmeister...
RE: (klr650) Jobs & Tequila NKLR
Re: (klr650) Most HP & fastest KLR
(klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #860
Re: (klr650) Vic's two lights pic...looks great
Re: (klr650) Vic's two lights pic...looks great
Re: (klr650) The longest time NKLR
Re: (klr650) The longest time NKLR
Re: (klr650) real headlight bulbs????
Re: (klr650) Supertrapp IDS
Re: (klr650) License plate advice tooo late
Re: (klr650) New listmeister...
Re: (klr650) KLR Starter Relay?
Re: (klr650) The longest time NKLR

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:22:06 -0700
From: "todd teicheira" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) bonehead

pulling the water pump impeller to replace the oil seal, i made the bonehead
mistake of not checking the archives first.  now i have the flange out and
the new seal in, but don't have new replacement mechanical seal or new
flange.  i don't see the manual making note of putting the new flange in on
reinstallation, will be a week and a half getting the mechanical seal.
question:  is a new flange to be installed on reassembly?  can the bike be
run safely without a flange (spring resting on oil seal...... sounds bad to
me)?  can the old mechanical seal be used until a replacement is in?  thanks
in advance.

todd
A9 bender

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:26:09 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 to kick-start

>The conclusion (so far) is:
>- there is a kick start kit available from Kawasaki;
>- the kit works only on models prior to 1995.
>
>Next question:
>What are the differences that cause the kick-start kit unusable on 96
and
>later models?
>What modifications do I need to do in order to make the kit work?
>
>Thanks to all for the help/information so far, and also thanks in
advance
>for the suggestions!


Istvan you may get some insight by reading the two complete install
articles in the archives. Go to the archives and first search on
"clutch install" (leave off the quotes)...you'll see the two parts of
Chris Beasley's clutch/kickstarter install. Next, search on "kick and
Hugh" and you'll get Hugh "missing link" Stout's two part article on the
kickstarter install.

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:35:31 -0400
From: "LindaT" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) New listmeister...

Methinks there is a story here...

LindaT.
95 F3 Purple Haze (63K miles and counting...)
00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing (0 miles and not counting)
86 KLR250 Klarabelle
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/

[e-mail] said:
Well isn't this just like a man. Running away with a song on his lips and
empty
promises in his heart? Do you even care what will become of our love child?
Should I just tell your son that you joined the circus or what?

dawn - ridin' 'em hard



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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:36:20 -0400
From: "LindaT" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Jobs & Tequila NKLR

I'll drink to that.

LindaT.
95 F3 Purple Haze (63K miles and counting...)
00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing (0 miles and not counting)
86 KLR250 Klarabelle
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/

Scot Macdonald said:
What about some good small batch bourbon for those of us in the Northeast
that
don't have access to 'good' dual sport riding or good tequila.  Any
takers......
(Yes, I am jealous.......)

Scot Macdonald




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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:39:20 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Most HP & fastest KLR

In a message dated 9/10/99 3:06:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< > Has any one really gone nuts on one of these things and turned it into a
 > killer machine?
 >

 Ask Geno! He's da man...
  >>
Steve Kesselring, of lowering link fame, took his KLR650 to a 750cc engine.
It seemed quite powerful, not sure of the exact figures, but it was above
50hp.

Gino

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:43:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #860

Just going through yesterday's posts. Was out for a couple of days due to
Montezuma's Revenge virus. Yecch! No Fun!  Just wanted to mention that KERMIT
is already taken for my Y2K KLR. I guess you could have a KERMIT II if need
be. BTW, after a Labor Day trip of 900 miles I am a very happy camper with
KERMIT who was much too overloaded but ran a smooth 75-85 all day long.

                                                Larry in scenic West Texas

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:43:35 -0600
From: "Vik Banerjee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Vic's two lights pic...looks great

>In a message dated 9/10/99 4:52:34 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
>>http://members.home.net/kingsqueak/klrtwolights.jpg
>So what is that support bracket for the front fender all about?

Well I wanted a $12 item at Chaparral and they won't do mail order for less
than $30, but were the only place that had the item I wanted.  So I looked
through the catalogue and found the Acerbis metal brace.  I figured it can't
hurt to stiffen up that front fender - especially since I carry a small
cycoactive bag on it always.  I have no real basis for saying there is any
improvement over stock, but logically it shouldn't hurt and its a quick and
cheap mod.


>and where did you get those nifty signals?

The stock signals are IMHO way too huge.  So I replaced all four with shorty
signals - just generic M/C stuff - cheap and they work.  Also since they are
so short they have not been damaged in any crashes.  There are a few
problems with them though: they are a lot less bright than stock, the solder
joints are weak and will vibrate apart (resolder when you buy them), they
are not flexible so if they do hit something its over - they will be in a
million pieces.  If any one knows of flexible rubber micro signals let me
know.

Cheers,

Vik



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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:55:32 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Vic's two lights pic...looks great

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Vik Banerjee <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>; <[e-mail]>; <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Vic's two lights pic...looks great


  If any one knows of flexible rubber micro signals let me
> know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Vik


I have some rubber mounts that you can use on your mini stalk turnsignals.
They are about $6 per pair.

Fred




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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:15:07 -0600
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) The longest time NKLR

>
>I'm curious about how long some of the listers have owned a single bike
(not
>necessarily a KLR or dual sport).   My neighbor has owned his Honda V650
>Sabre (drop dead gorgeous with Hondaline fairing and bags, looks like it
>just rolled off the showroom floor) sin it was new, some 17 years.  My
>longest was my beloved 1982 Yamaha 650 Seca, which I had for 9 years (it
was
>the only bike I owned for that period also).  The second longest is my  95
>KLR650, residing in my garage for 4 years this November.
>
>Gino
>



Mine would be my XL500, at 4 years.
    I would also be interested in the most miles on any one  bike. Mine was
on my 89` NX650,  49,000 ?(+- a few ) miles, and no major work  except the
exhaust valve and guide at around 35,000 miles.

Skip ( problems with long term commitments)


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:20:36 -0600
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) The longest time NKLR

>I bought a new Kawasaki Z1-R in 1978 that I still have.
>
>Fred   (what do I win?)
>


That one doesn`t count Fred. I saw it behind your shop. It was on a milk
crate and was stripped except for the lower case and front tire. :>)

Skip


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:28:02 -0600
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) real headlight bulbs????

>I'm just wondering if anyone else has replaced their headlight bulb with a
>real bulb..like an 80/110, or a 90/130? Wondering about longetivity,LEO
>probs or wiring, stator or rotor fires or the like.
>
> when in doubt-throttle out!
>
> B. Jr.



I had a 55/100 for about 3000 miles and switched to the PIAA
80/80 Super White, which I still run and love. I ride at night a lot
( commuting from work) and fell in love with this bulb.
    I`ve had no problems with either, but I have heard of melted base plugs
on some bikes, when the 130`s were used.

Skip


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:38:29 -0500
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Supertrapp IDS

After 2 weeks, I'm generally pleased with mine too.  The rear joint where
the muffler assembly bolts to the pipe was tough to seal.  Have you tested
yours for leaks?  After my first assembly, I could feel exhaust squirting
out of it, even though the clamp was very tight aroung the aluminum muffler
end.  So I disassembled it, spread some hi-temp RTV around it, and
re-assembled it.

I think this cured the exhaust leak, but I just noticed that I
over-tightened the clamp, because it is now distorted where the threads go
through, and looks like it will let break sooner or later.

Does anyone know (Fred?) where I can get a replacement?

Tom Meagher
Houston TX (a.k.a. "The Bowels of Hell")
A13 "Warthog too"



- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Bonenfant <[e-mail]>
To: KLR List <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Supertrapp IDS


>FYI if you care, after absolutely zero movement of the sticker / hairdryer
>route, I decided that the sticker was there for good... but after a 10 km
>ride and a dull screwdriver, I barely nugged the one end and the whole
>thing popped off in less than a second with zero glue residue... thanks for
>the options...
>PS for the record - ST IDS 'quiet core' - had excellent fit and finish, no
>missing parts, no modification required.. a perfect match for the klr
>ciao,, B
>'98 KLR650CE,18.8k -prrrrrrrfect providing I'm in front of Arne's fire
>breathering BG
>'99 Kat 750,3.3k
>



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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:43:07 -0500
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) License plate advice tooo late

Mark,
With the braided brake line, and the progressives, I now find the front
brake to be just fine.  Moving the brake lever assembly directly adjacent to
the Throttle also helped _a_lot_.

I think KHI's policy has been to minimize any evolution of the design at
all, in order to cut engineering costs to the bone.  If it ain't broke,
don't fix it.  In this case, broke referring to annual sales volume...

Tom Meagher
Houston TX (a.k.a. "The Bowels of Hell")
A13 "Warthog too"


- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark C King <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:23 PM
Subject: (klr650) License plate advice tooo late


>KLR people,
>
>As a result of all the advice on License plate position I thought I would
check out moving mine up. It seems that the surround already met with a
nasty death. Must have been the blast down the bumpy canyon road on Sunday
(Mines Road to Mount Hamilton : Livermore CA). What a great lane stormer the
KLR is, a shame about the brakes but a comfy ride.
>
>At least I have not lost the plate. How the gubbins do Kawasaki get a way
with such a bad design ?
>
>Mark
>
>99 KLR 650
>
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>


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:38:34 -0600
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) New listmeister...

>>Ajax out.....but like the Phoenix soon to be reborn...
>
>
>Kurt you deserve a great deal of thanks for your work on the list.  The
>biggest single reason I am a KLR owner right now was this mailing list.
>
>Thank you and best of luck in the future,
>
>Vik



Mega Dittos, and thanks for the prodding and poking when I`d be
procrastinating on finishing a project. Special thanks for the
10:30 pm pizza at Moab. You`re a true Ambassador for the KLR650.

Skip




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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:55:38 -0500
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Starter Relay?

Adam,
Best to get a cheap little DVM, and try to catch it in the act, I think.
You can pick one up at most auto parts stores, or Radio Shack, for $20-$40.
I actually bought a small one, about the size of a pack of cigarettes while
on the road, when I had electrical problems, and now I always carry it.

Here is a link to a copy of the schematic diagram:

http://members.aol.com/cloudhid/klrwiring.jpg

move up one level, and there are great pix of carbs and stuff too,(I think
this is Redondo Ron's site)

Tom Meagher
Houston TX (a.k.a. "The Bowels of Hell")
A13 "Warthog too"


- -----Original Message-----
From: Adam Stahnke <[e-mail]>
To: klr650 <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 8:25 PM
Subject: (klr650) KLR Starter Relay?


>Checked the archives, but didn't find the correct information.  The
>famous "won't start after being run 5 miles" or as in todays case 75.  I
>pulled apart the ignition sitch yesterday and cleaned it out.
>Everything worked fine...yesterday.
>
>After today's lunch stop (45 minutes), I only get a click out of the
>starter relay every time I pressed the starter button.  I pulled it out
>of  the rubber cover and checked all the connections and everything
>looked fine.  The bike started up after that.  Could the relay be
>faulty?  I don't have meter to check the connection/voltage.  Thanks.
>
>-Adam
>
>P.S.
>I think the clutch and
>side stand have already been
>bypassed by another owner.
>
>
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>


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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:06:39 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) The longest time NKLR

In a message dated 9/10/99 9:24:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

>     I would also be interested in the most miles on any one  bike. Mine was
>  on my 89` NX650,
I put over 100,000 miles on a Suzuki GS850G with no engine repairs and it was
still running strong when I sold it.  My V-65 Sabre has 76,000 with no engine
problems and my KLR has only 26,000 (14,000 in the last 12 months).
Kurt Grife

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