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klr650-digest        Wednesday, August 25 1999        Volume 02 : Number 770



Re: (klr650) (NKLR) mid size twins and r
(klr650) More Rumors re: DS Twins
(klr650) Oil consumption
(klr650) Horsethief99 (700 miles)
Re: (klr650) Horsethief99 (700 miles)
Re: (klr650) Low Fender and Progressive Fork Springs
Re: (klr650) Low Fender and Progressive Fork Springs
Re: (klr650) First Gear Kilamanjaro (sp?)
Re: (klr650) First Gear Kilamanjaro (sp?)
Re: (klr650) List disapointing
Re: (klr650) Off Road Helmet - Why?
(klr650) various...
(klr650) Re: oil consumption
(klr650) oil burning
(klr650) kilimanjaro
RE: (klr650) NKLR "peak" [was: Off Road Helmet - Why?]
Re: (klr650) Oil consumption
(klr650) Lyle Lovett & Pan-American Highway NKLR
RE: (klr650) List disapointing
RE: (klr650)(NKLR) Lyle Lovett and other

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 9:53:00 -0600
From: "Pokluda, Gino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) mid size twins and r

>Hold that thought.  The big rumor is that Suzuki will be putting that
engine
>in a dual sport as a 2000 model.
>
>Gino


>In the Cagiva Grand Canyon?

That's the *other* rumor out there, except they would be putting the TL1000
engine in the Gran Canyon.  It is the rumor that makes the least amount of
sense since the Ducati engine used in the GC is really a pretty good mill.
 Cagiva's bigger problem is just trying to get a dealer network established.

While we are on the topic of rumors, there is the new Suzuki DR400 which is
almost a certainty.

Gino


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail] (Jim Smith)
Subject: (klr650) More Rumors re: DS Twins

Gino:

A Scottish friend of mine sent me some info from a UK web site that
states that for 2000, Suzuki is coming out with a DR 1000 fitted with a
TL engine.  Unfortunately, it may be for European consumption only.

Jim


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:45:03 -0500
From: Scott Wass <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Oil consumption

Thanks to all that replied it seems there is a wide variance of oil use
all the way from little to none to 16oz....1k so at this point it seems
there is no reason to get my undies in a knot just the same I am a bit
disappointed with the amount of oil my bike is using I don't think a new
bike should be using any oil at the 5k mark oh well....thanks again.
Scott Wass


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:38:39 -0700
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Horsethief99 (700 miles)

If anyone's interested in pictures/story of a 700mile X-country ride in the
Cascade mountains of Washington state, see Horsethief99:
http://www.cycoactive.com/horsethief99

This year we went more hardcore, even allowing two-strokes because the
trails were tougher.  Sorry, no BMW on this ride.  Our poster-boy Helge
Pedersen rode an XR650L this time.  He attempted to make it as heavy as his
F-650 but he only had 40 lbs of camera gear.  He would have needed another
60 lbs to even get close to the F-650.

Our 500 miler last year (Horsethief 500) is still up on
http://www.cycoactive.com/horsethief

Tom

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:24:03 -0400
From: Ian Cariolo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Horsethief99 (700 miles)

At 09:38 AM 8/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>If anyone's interested in pictures/story of a 700mile X-country ride in the
>Cascade mountains of Washington state, see Horsethief99:
>http://www.cycoactive.com/horsethief99

That was great. But, reading that story bums me out because as vast and
forested as Massachusetts is, there's NOWHERE to ride (legally). Still a
great read, tho'.






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1985 VF700F Interceptor
1986 Kawasaki KLR600
Duxbury, MA
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:30:45 -0700
From: "Dave Zuber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Low Fender and Progressive Fork Springs

Which low fender did you mount?  The Acerbis?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Rev. Chuck <[e-mail]>
To: KLR650 List <[e-mail]>; Fred Hink <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 1999 9:36 AM
Subject: (klr650) Low Fender and Progressive Fork Springs


>After having enough front end issues with the KLR regarding the massive
dive when mashing the front brakes, and the jib sail effect caused by the
stock fender when in a cross wind, I ordered replacements from Fred at
Arrowhead Motorsports.
>


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:35:29 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Low Fender and Progressive Fork Springs

>Which low fender did you mount?  The Acerbis?


The Acerbis isn't around anymore..Fred sells the UFO...

Kurt


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:31:20 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) First Gear Kilamanjaro (sp?)

> I have heard very little about the Kilimanjaro and it has been
> about 50/50.  Fred for Arrowhead said that he has sold several
to
> list members and highly recommends them.
>
I have nothing but good things to say about my Kilimanjaro.  I
was using it for commuting between Seattle and Tacoma daily, so
you can see its quite waterproof!

Jeff


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:37:40 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) First Gear Kilamanjaro (sp?)

> Negatives:   HOT in summer.  Maybe someone on the list can
offer some
> specifics re venting and cooling ideas.  I just open all the
zippers, fold
> the sleeve opening back to form scoops and go on.
>
> I am a little disappointed with the fit around the neck of the
jacket.  My
> neck size is 17". I think the neck size and design could be
improved on for
> the XXL size.
>
You have to use the Velcro of the large front vents to fold the
flaps open and Velcro in place, which makes pretty large scoops
there.  Also, you have to make sure that the back vent is open.
I don't zip the main zipper all the way up the collar in summer
either.  As for the collar, my neck is size 18, and my XXL fits
just fine.  Its snug, but it has to be, or else it would flap
around at highway speeds.  This jacket can be warm around town
when stopped at stoplights, but on the highway it's just fine for
me in the high 90's.

Jeff


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:42:50 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) List disapointing

My bike dosent use any oil, it has around 3500 miles, so there is a long way
to go.
Mark Wilson
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/track/6419
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/index.html
KLR-650 A-13 " Warthogg"
Stone Mountain, Ga.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Wass <[e-mail]>

> I am a bit disappointed with the list. I put out a post a couple days
> ago asking for a consensus on the amount of oil everyone's bike uses so
> I could compare it with the 16 oz per 3k my 1999 650 is using  which I
> feel is to much. I wanted the information so I had some ammo for my
> dealer when they said it was normal. All I got was one response...thanks
> Arne so is it safe to assume nobody else's uses any oil
> Scott Wass
>
.


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:55:40 PDT
From: "Paul Christenson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Off Road Helmet - Why?

>And are these usable on the road?

In the US, make sure it has a DOT sticker on it...


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:51:14 -0400
From: "Eric Jasniewicz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) various...

1.  List disappointing - you don't pay us, take what you can get and be
appreciative of others' efforts.  Some times you can ask a question that no
one has an answer to.  This isn't some magical realm here.  Yea, Gino, Kurt,
Fred, Jeff, etc.. seem to have answers to pretty much everything, but it is
clear to me they do not devote 100% of their lives to the list.  I plan to
have a talk with them in the future about their lack of dedication. ;)

2.  Off-road helmets - buy the Arai VX Pro!  Sooo comfy, and, well it looks
really bitchin', even in plain white.  I have run my KLR up to 100 mph
indicated without any noticeable lift, but, I have an 18.5-inch neck, so
your results may vary for you pencil-necks out there!  The peak is
adjustable.

3.  Do not subscribe to MCN.  I have gone through numerous rounds with their
subscription department since May and I still have not received an issue.  I
finally gave up.  Hopefully they will not screw up my subscription refund.

4.  How the heck do you mount a Chase Harper 1150 tank bag (non-magnetic) on
the KLR?  The sucker is huge!  I bought it at the MAW clearance thing, so I
can't return it.  I only found two posts about the 1150,  one guy who had
been using it for quite some time.  I thought that it was a highly
recommended bag for the KLR, I may have been hallucinating again.  If anyone
wants to buy a brand-new in the bag 1150,. let me know.

Eric J
www.angelfire.com/ga/ericjazz KLR page
'98 KLR 650 18,000 miles


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alex Jomarron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: oil consumption

Scott,

On my 11,000 mile trip north I used very little oil. I changed the oil at
4000 and then 8500 miles of the trip. Both times the window was full. I
didn't measure the oil that was in the oil drain pan, but needless to say
I didn't have to top off at anytime during the oil change intervals. BTW,
I started the trip with 9,000+ miles on the engine.

Alex

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:21:54 -0400
From: "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) oil burning

 i generally don't need to add any oil between 3000 mi changes.  however,
one three-day trip at highway speeds (or, at least between 55 and 75 on
average) of about 1900 mi caused about 1/2 quart oil loss.

_pete
97KLR650
76GL1000


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:24:59 -0400
From: "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) kilimanjaro

i have a kilimanjaro (the long one).  i LOVE it.  very cool with the
vents open, as long as you are moving.  absolutely waterproof
thus far with the vents closed.  looks pretty cool.  hasn't ripped
yet, but then again i haven't slid it along any pavement yet.

_pete



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:24:23 -0600
From: Istvan Szlany <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR "peak" [was: Off Road Helmet - Why?]

>Briefly back to the peak-on-the-road-wind issue - is
>the effect significant at KLR road speeds?  (For me,
>this is max 75 mph, cruise 65-70).
    My helmet has a "peak" on it, and I use it on highways all the time,
with about the same speed you do.  No problems with it.  On the other hand,
when I was riding in a canyon and looked up, ... well, you guessed right,
it's hard on the neck.  ... It's your call, Andy.  I think, it doesn't
matter what do you want to use, as long as you are aware of the limitations.

Question to the List:  does anybody know what the "PSB Test" checkmark means
on a helmet?  and how does that compare to DOT, Snell95 and other
requirements.  Thank you!

Cheers,


            istvan



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:49:26 -0700
From: "Robert Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil consumption

Scott here is my report and its probably not much help.  I change my oil
every 500 miles or so, I use Honda HP4 semisynthetic motor cycle oil.  It
doesn't use any (0) in that time period.
My A11 has 4200 miles on it.
Morgan


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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:54:47 -0500
From: "Grage, Michael" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Lyle Lovett & Pan-American Highway NKLR

TBS is replaying an episode of National Geographic Explorer tonight that
includes the following:
"LYLE LOVETT ROAD KICKS -- Singer Lyle Lovett trades his guitar for a
motorcycle and rides Chile's southernmost stretch of the Pan-American
Highway. Join EXPLORER host Boyd Matson, Lovett, and friends as they travel
along 600 miles (960 kilometers) of rough and spectacular terrain."

I missed this the last time it was on and have been waiting to see it.  8:05
PM ET

Mike

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:38:51 -0700
From: "Stuart Mumford" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) List disapointing

 >>...am a bit disappointed with the list. I put out a post a couple days
ago asking for a consensus on the amount of oil everyone's bike uses so
I could compare it with the 16 oz per 3k my 1999 650 is using  which I
feel is to much.<<-----Original Message-----


I am not sorry in the least. It is a classified matter, and I will only
reveal my bikes name, model, and serial number.
My A13 has only 4000 miles on it, all ridden by my grandma on sunny Sundays
in the church parking lot, and consumes no oil as far as I can tell. But
when I leave it alone in the garage all my beer disappears. That's my story
and I'm sticking to it, honey.
CA Stu A13 < - -  feels awkward replying to posts he knows nothing about
(aboot, Arne)



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:28:00 -0600
From: "Pokluda, Gino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650)(NKLR) Lyle Lovett and other

>>Singer Lyle Lovett trades his guitar for a
motorcycle and rides Chile's southernmost stretch of the Pan-American
Highway. Join EXPLORER host Boyd Matson, Lovett, and friends as they travel
along 600 miles (960 kilometers) of rough and spectacular terrain."<<

A bit of trivia....

What was Lyle Lovett's occupation before becoming a popular musician?

Extra credit..

What other famous hunk has a lust for off-road bikes, especially KTM's?

hint: think hair


Gino


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