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klr650-digest        Thursday, August 19 1999        Volume 02 : Number 737



Re: (klr650) Takin' her apart
Re: (klr650) Kenda K270 tires
Re: (klr650) Takin' air apart
Re: (klr650) Dual Star: NKLR
(klr650) Supertrapp Quiet - Vibration?
RE: (klr650) Supertrapp Quiet - Vibration?
Re: (klr650) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:11:23 -0700
Re: (klr650) Scottoiler-bilinkular lubing (nklr)
Re: (klr650) Re: Dual Star , last post NKLR
Re: (klr650) Think about it ......!
Re: (klr650) Compass
Re: (klr650) Scottoiler-bilinkular lubing (nklr)
Re: (klr650) Dual Star: NKLR
(klr650) unsubscribe
RE: (klr650) Trail pics!
(klr650) Fitting Fastline Brake Line?
(klr650) chain gang
Re: (klr650) Magnetized

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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:45:24 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Takin' her apart

>  At high speeds the vacuum hose that runs from the petcock to
>  the top/front of the carb has collapsed on some bikes. Check
>  'Morgan' and 'hose' in the archives.

We've discussed this before.  If the vacuum hose kinks, the fuel
will still flow through the petcock, because the vacuum will
still be the same on both sides of the kink.  This hose doesn't
flow like a vacuum cleaner hose.  All it does is provide a
pressure differential, a vacuum, to the petcock valve to open it
up and allow gasoline to flow through the other hose.

Jeff


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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:50:42 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Kenda K270 tires

> I've been using them since last summer and am on my second
rear, the rear
> seems to be good for about 4000 miles for my riding style.  The
tires are
> definately a compromise on the street as regards handling.  The
reasons I
> like them have to do with the 6-ply construction with 4-ply
sidewalls, in
> several baja trips I have not had a sidewall puncture.  They
also have good
> rim protection molded in.  Because of the stiff sidewalls I
have had no
> problem running 15 lbs front and 18 rear pressure with out rim
locks when
> riding off pavement.  Another reason is price, a rear costs me
$53.00 mounted
> and balanced from my local shop when I take the wheel in off
the bike.  Front
> (I use a 3.25) costs $31.00.  This tire is not for someone who
runs mostly on
> pavement but for my usage I am very pleased.  For an opposing
view I know
> that Alex expressed dissatisfaction with these tires for his
Alaska trip.

Have you had that 3.25 front tire in deep sand?  Did it plow, or
did it float?  Thanks.

Jeff


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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:03:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Takin' air apart

[e-mail] writes:
>If the vacuum hose kinks, the fuel will still flow through the
>petcock, because the vacuum will still be the same on both
>sides of the kink.  This hose doesn't flow like a vacuum cleaner
>hose.  All it does is provide a pressure differential, a vacuum,
>to the petcock valve to open it up and allow gasoline to flow
>through the other hose.


 That makes sense Jeff, but others have reported that a
 new line cured their ails. I haven't seen it first hand so
 I can only speculate that some combination of collapsing
 along with cracks somewhere in the hose doesn't allow
 enough of a vacuum to reach the petcock. Maybe we can
 talk someone whose been there into replicating it.

 Redondo Ron A10  'aired out



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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:16:31 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Dual Star: NKLR

> As for number 1, I bought a Dual Star handlebar mounted
> compass from them for $10.  Turned out the thing doesn't
> work.  Don't know if they make it or not, but it has their name
> on it.

I'm a little confused why you would expect a magnetic compass
sitting above 153 kg of metal and mounted directly on metal
handlebars and in the vicinity of a couple of electrical circuits
to work.

Jeff



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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:52:42 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Supertrapp Quiet - Vibration?

Hi all,

I've just fitted a Supertrapp IDS Quiet to my (UK spec)
'99 KLR650, and in general am very happy with the
performance and sound improvement.  One problem
though - at medium revs (no rev counter, but about
50mph in top) I feel a vibration through the right
foot peg.  At high revs (70 in top) I feel vibration
through both pegs, and a lesser one through the
bars.

Very annoying - I was very careful to ensure that
the pipe had good clearance from both the frame and
side panel, so has anybody got any idea what the
problem could be?  I assume this isn't something I
just have to get used to?!?

Thanks,
Andy

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:02:58 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (klr650) Supertrapp Quiet - Vibration?

Forgot to add what I think is obvious - the vibration I'm
talking about wasn't there with the standard pipe.  The
new vibration is a much higher frequency one than the
standard "thumper vibration" (which I actually like!).

Also, the bike is only 650 miles old, if that makes any
difference...?

Andy

- -----Original Message-----
From: Garton, Andrew (Andy)
Sent: 19 August 1999 09:53
To: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Supertrapp Quiet - Vibration?


Hi all,

I've just fitted a Supertrapp IDS Quiet to my (UK spec)
'99 KLR650, and in general am very happy with the
performance and sound improvement.  One problem
though - at medium revs (no rev counter, but about
50mph in top) I feel a vibration through the right
foot peg.  At high revs (70 in top) I feel vibration
through both pegs, and a lesser one through the
bars.

Very annoying - I was very careful to ensure that
the pipe had good clearance from both the frame and
side panel, so has anybody got any idea what the
problem could be?  I assume this isn't something I
just have to get used to?!?

Thanks,
Andy

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:54:05 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:11:23 -0700

In a message dated 8/18/99 6:21:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I ordered a bunch of stuff from Fed on Monday and received it today in the
am. All the way to (very)North Western Washington in two days.
 Thanx Fred... >>
Ditto Fred, I ordered on Monday also and received it yesterday (Wed) in
Florida.
Jim-A13-Cocoa

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:13:57 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler-bilinkular lubing (nklr)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Jasniewicz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler-bilinkular lubing (nklr)


> Hmm, but what kind of oil should I use for the Scottoiler, and how much
oil
> should I keep in the unit?
__________

That all depends on if you measure it at an angle, straight up and down, or
upside down.  The other preferred method is to go with 150cc's (+/-
150cc's).

I hope this helps.

Arne


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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:23:31 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Dual Star , last post NKLR

> ||> CA Stu A13 <-- I am this list's #1 fan.
> |
> |You, my friend, are a pontificating windbag with a propensity towards
> |verbosity who happens to be making complete sense.
> |Thanks,
> |
> |Arne
_______________________

> this is funny man right on right on !!!!!!!
> MIke
> ps. ever made those raks for a Tiger?
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Steeeeeeeeewwwwwwww.......

ps. no

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:30:44 -0400
From: "ELN/oemail" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Think about it ......!

Well I live in NC and used to be of your persuasion until a took a closer
look ....global warming is not happening, and If it just ask farmers that
have constantly planted later and harvested early over the past years/
decades (I am telling you Jeff they well laugh at this global warming ) and
if it is warming there are lots of possible causes tilt of the earth on its
axis weather patterns just change every thousand years or so. ( not motors)
Why I said you are a leftist is because people on that  side assign man that
much power ya know to change the world/weather when if all the science in
the world set out to warm the planet IT COULD NOT BE DONE. this is a liberal
thought I do not think we are that powerful.
I live in NC, ya know a place that is Called the Blue Ridge Mountains ? Well
that is what the Indians (sorry I am not political correct and will not use
the term native whatever) named the mountains for the fact of smog lingered
around and gave a Blue ridge effect in the sky by the way they didn't have
cars or motors. And use tress produce the chemical that makes smog! on their
own !

You see this it about control if you and all the left SCREAM loud enough and
work up enough hysteria..... well AlGore and all the rest of the "everyone
does it" liberal congress will be right there to take our rights away !

what I am saying is you and I can't change the weather neither can 250m
Americans
it is just not in our power but the left will say we can for political
reasons.

There are lots of other possible causes!

A week or so ago AlGore spoke to some school children a told them how the
Republicans are killing people with there environment polices and how Global
warming is going to kill us all or something like that well anyway turns out
in the story he did them a disservice because science is starting to move
away from this because there has been a recent study on weather patterns
that is contradictory .

I see this for what it is
This environment debut is all politics and control
How dare anyone say I can not drive down the rode I payed taxes on to use
,in the car I bought and payed for by myself you see what I mean by control,
singal person car , If I do not want to carpool well then so be it !!!!

We are part of the environment too.
I believe this will be exposed to be a corrupt movement, sorry man
Mike
PS.Jeff thanks for arguing with me.
I do not live in the mountians of NC I live in the costal plain region.



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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:22:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Compass

< why you would expect a magnetic compass
sitting above 153 kg of metal and mounted directly on metal
handlebars and in the vicinity of a couple of electrical circuits
to work. >

Compasses can be adjusted to work with metal around them - as in cars, but it
is more difficult to adjust for varying magnetic fields that may be created
by other electrical devices.
T.S.

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:25:27 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler-bilinkular lubing (nklr)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Stuart Heaslet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler-bilinkular lubing (nklr)


> At 01:35 PM 8/18/99 -0700, Arne Larsen wrote:
> >No, no, no...  Modify the KLR to accept two carburators - then run a
> >scottoiler from each.  This would eliminate splicing the vacuum line.
>
> Wouldn't we all agree that real men would suck directly on the
Scottoiler's
> vacuum line to make it work?
>
> Stuart


Not this real man!

Cheers,

Arne

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:38:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Dual Star: NKLR

that is good logic. however it seems to me that it applies doubly to the
vendor who offers it for sale.

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:49:17 -0400
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:45:56 -0400
From: "Blake, Paul" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Trail pics!

Looks like you guys had a blast!!

    If anyone asks what the limits of a KLR are, these aren't them ;)
    Although I did get stuck a few times, and the bike would run rough
after
    coming out of some of the water crossings, the KLR took all of this
in
    stride!  What a bike!!!

    TTYL
    Karl




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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:57:14 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Fitting Fastline Brake Line?

Is this easy?  I wasn't even going to attempt it as oil
changes are pretty much my limit, but having received
the kit, the line itself looks pretty simple, although
there's no instructions.  I managed to fit the Supertrapp
myself (that was easy), anyone got a simple procedure
for the brake line?

Thanks,
Andy

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: dan shaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) chain gang

hi all,

tongiht im gonaa try and replace my stock chain with a new one. ill
also be replaceing both sprockets. ive replaced many a bicycle chain
but never a motorcycle and i assume its completely different.

the new chain is a master link clip type. i was told i could grind off
the head of a rivit to remove the old chain and use vice grips to
install the new one, but this is all i know. the instructions on the
chain box are not so clear. could someone explain to me how to put on
the new chain without using a special chain tool? thanks!

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:12:42 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Magnetized

- ----- Original Message -----
From: John Houchins <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Magnetized


> Howdy partners,
>
> One reason your handheld and handlebar mounted compass doesn't work is
> because the tachometer uses a "giant" magnet. Something slightly less than
> the pull of a Planet.
>
> John who was always was headed north until I dismounted.

Excellent observation John.  When I read the postings, I wondered if it may
have had something to do with the steel KLR handlebar - as Doug said his
compass worked, and I thought that on his Dr350 the bar might be aluminium.

Cheers,

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