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From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest)
To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: klr650-digest V2 #438
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klr650-digest Wednesday, May 26 1999 Volume 02 : Number 438
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:53:36 -0600
From: "Thomas L. Ingram" <tingram@wic.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) headlight modulator
I installed on my street bike a headlight modulator from Kriss Industries
which operates on the high beam. During daylight, if I select high beam, it
will flash the high beam. It has a light sensor which automatically
switches to constant beam in low light conditions, or if the unit should
ever fail. I am very pleased with it, and believe it is very valuable in
urban situations. Cost was about $85.00. It was small enough to fit in the
headlight shell of my Suzuki 1500. I had it installed at the dealer, since
my bike is under warranty, and I did not want to provide an excuse for
laying blame off on me if I had any warranty problems. Installation did not
appear to be difficult, however. The instructions looked very complete.
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:57:36 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) New klr
>My dealer just quoted me $4200 on a new one that is coming in this week.
>Anything I should look out for because of the low quote??
>
>Dusty
just the title...Steve Young got a great email deal from Burbank Kawasaki and is still waiting
for the title 10 months later...
Kurt
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:14:24 EDT
From: TomBr2@aol.com
Subject: Re: (klr650) New KLR Alert !!!
Since I live in Howell I went out of my way to find a dealer that I could
trust. I give Woodbridge Powersports 5 stars, they really did a good job with
my sale and I was very comfortable. They bent over backwards and really new
the equipment. (Best Price) Many of my friends have bought from them and they
tell me the Service Department is great !!!!!!!! I also know of a situation
were a friend kept bringing back his unit to the other place for a simple
repair that took 7 attempts and ended up having Woodbridge Repair it first
try !!!
I know of the dealer you speak, and you are right !!!!!! They are closer to
me but I was not comfortable, were not very knowledgable of the equipment
!!!!!
Regards,
Tom (NJ)
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:16:25 EDT
From: TomBr2@aol.com
Subject: Re: (klr650) New klr
If that includes, shipping, tax, tags, title, and assembly you got a great
deal.
Regards,
Tom (NJ)
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:28:03 -0400
From: Chris <kingsqueak@home.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) New KLR Alert !!!
TomBr2@aol.com wrote:
>
> Since I live in Howell I went out of my way to find a dealer that I could
> trust. I give Woodbridge Powersports 5 stars, they really did a good job with
> my sale and I was very comfortable. They bent over backwards and really new
> the equipment. (Best Price) Many of my friends have bought from them and they
> tell me the Service Department is great !!!!!!!! I also know of a situation
> were a friend kept bringing back his unit to the other place for a simple
> repair that took 7 attempts and ended up having Woodbridge Repair it first
> try !!!
>
Great to hear, one other plus to that dealer I have to add. They have
one of the largest showroom inventories in the area, and allow you to
sit on whatever you please. Oddly, so many dealers won't even allow you
to sit on a bike!! What an odd mentality. As soon as I sit on any bike
I immediately start thinking of things to hock, excuses having to do
with living outdoors since the warm season is here etc. . You know I
have figured that I could strap a sizeable Coleman to the nice rack on a
KLR, and with a little dry ice...hmmm .
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:35:24 EDT
From: S2Mumford@aol.com
Subject: (klr650) Cali emissions equipment
<< (klr650) California emissions? >>
You are Correct Sir!
As a side note, when I was still shopping for my KLR, I asked a salesman at
Chapparral Motorcycles in San Bdno. what that black box by the helmet lock
was, and he told me it was the "engine control computer".! I later found out
that it is the California mandated KLR rider tracking device.
CA Stu.
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:10 -0400
From: "Bob Zeliff" <bzeliff@sover.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Why 5252? NKLR
I was the guy who asked.
Thanks for the derivation.
bob
A10
- -----Original Message-----
From: Darrel & Deanna <elcid24@gte.net>
To: KLR list <klr650@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 12:32 AM
Subject: (klr650) Why 5252? NKLR
>Someone on the list asked why does the torque and hp curves intersect at
>5252 on the dyno regardless of engine being tested. Here's the MCN answer:
>
>The formula was originally used to convert an engine's torque by finding
>force in pounds, traveling a distance in feet for a given period of time in
>minutes.
>As an example, if a crank is attached to a lever, which is one foot long,
>the end of the lever will follow a circular path, one foot in radius. To
>get the total distance the rod end moves, we multiply the radius of the
>circle by 2 pi. This gives us 6.2831853 (which is twice pi) x 1 (radius of
>circle), which gives us a circumference of 6.28318383'.
>Next, we figure in time by stating how many times the path is traveled in
>one minute. For this we use rpm. For the sake of clarity, let's say that
>the engine has a real low idle (1 rpm). The product of this math can then
>be multiplied by the known torque of the engine to find the total lb. ft.
of
>torque per minute.
>The result can now be divided by Watt's lb. ft.-per-minute constant for a
>one-horse-power engine (33,000) to find your engine's horsepower. (He got
>his number from a workhorse running a water pump).
>
>This gives the formula:
>Horsepower=6.2831853 x rpm x torque / 33000
>
>If you divide the formula's right side by 2 pi, you can eliminate the
>6.2831853 and reduce the 33000 to 5252.1131. By rounding off the numbers,
>the formula simplifies to :
>
>Horsepower=rpm x torque / 5252
>
>Darrel A12 'avenger'
>
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:30:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Juan Villarreal <villarrealjuan@yahoo.com>
Subject: (klr650) New klr
> My dealer just quoted me $4200 on a new one
> that is coming in this week.
> Anything I should look out for because of the
> low quote??
>
> Dusty
Somebody else getting there first.
Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
"The Happy Hooligan"
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:44:17 -0400
From: "Thomas Lewis" <tomlewis@mindspring.com>
Subject: (klr650) KLR650 windshield
Last night I was riding along and realized that the right screw and
plastic nut had fallen out of my windshield and the right side was blowing
loose in the wind. I pulled over at the first available spot, got out my
tools, and removed the shield. Unfortunately, it was too late and the shield
had already cracked badly near the center screw.
I looked on the web site today and read the article about the two
optional replacements. So, I guess I have few questions. Is the Clearview +4
the replacement of choice? Where's the best place to buy them and what is a
good price?
Thanks, Thomas
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:45:21 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 windshield
> Last night I was riding along and realized that the right screw and
>plastic nut had fallen out of my windshield and the right side was blowing
>loose in the wind. I pulled over at the first available spot, got out my
>tools, and removed the shield. Unfortunately, it was too late and the shield
>had already cracked badly near the center screw.
> I looked on the web site today and read the article about the two
>optional replacements. So, I guess I have few questions. Is the Clearview +4
>the replacement of choice? Where's the best place to buy them and what is a
>good price?
>
>Thanks, Thomas
no...I would say the most excitement right now is about the Kawasaki over-sized shield and it
is available from Fred Hink at moabmc@lasal.net.
Kurt
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:48:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Hooper <j_c_hooper@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) headlight modulator
I bought a headlight modulator for my Concours from Kisan Industries
(888-464-KISA). There is a Federal Motor Vehicle spec that modulators
must comply with to be legal (FMVSS standard 108, section 5.6). I
bought mine in a reaction to some of the late model cars that have
headlights on all the time, to try to increase my visibility in
traffic. The basic premise of the modulator is that the human vision
system is more sensitive to a light with variable intensity than one
shining at a steady level.
The installation of this particular item is very simple; all of the
circuitry is on a small board that plugs in between the headlight
connector and your wiring harness. There is also an ambient light
sensor that automatically disables the modulation when the sun goes
down (this is a part of the FMVSS requirements).
The modulator varies the intensity of the headlightÆs high beam from
17% of max. illumination to 70% at a frequency of 240 cycles per
minute. The low beam headlight is not affected by the modulator.
I have had this installed for about 6 months, and it does seem to
improve my conspicuity in traffic.
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:52:22 -0400
From: "J.Taylor" <klr650@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 windshield
Kurt Simpson wrote:
> I would say the most excitement right now is about the Kawasaki
> over-sized shield
> Kurt
Have owners of this shield reported any news lately? I was "thankin on
gettin one" but wanted to hear what other six-footers had to say about
it.
Jake, sometimes not paying attention shows...
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:06:10 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 windshield
>Have owners of this shield reported any news lately? I was "thankin on
>gettin one" but wanted to hear what other six-footers had to say about
>it.
>
>Jake, sometimes not paying attention shows...
>
This was Jim's mixed bag review:
Yesterday I installed the new Kawasaki-brand tall windshield on my A-11. It
is exactly 4.0 inches taller than the stock windshield, and it has a very
slight forward flare at the top. It's labelled "Made in USA", and it appears
to be a good quality unit.
Installation is simple and straightforward and requires nothing more than a
Phillips-head screwdriver. The holes in the windshield lined up perfectly
with the holes in the fairing. The windshield is the only thing you'll find
in the box--it does not come with any mounting hardware whatsoever. Neither
does it come with any instructions. You will quickly notice that the
odd-shaped little knurled nuts that held the stock windshield in place do not
seem to fit the new one. Fortunately this is not a serious problem; if you
will simply screw those nuts on backwards, they will secure your new
windshield just fine.
I'm about 5'8" barefoot with a 33" inseam--in other words, just about average
size. Sitting on the bike, I can easily look over the top edge of the
windshield. When I took the new windshield out in the Dallas rush hour
traffice for a road test, the turbulence spilling over the top of it hit me
just about in the middle of my face. Now bear in mind that I have put the
Corbin seat on it, so I'm sitting an inch or two lower than I would be on the
stock seat. I haven't tested the new windshield over about 50 or 55 MPH yet,
but I expect that at higher speeds the turbulence would stike me slightly
lower, perhaps along about the chin or throat. This is not exactly what I was
hoping for.
So, is the new windshield worth it?
Well, for about $70 (plus tax and/or shipping), it's better than nothing, but
it certainly doesn't remind you much of an Electra Glide or a Gold Wing. I'm
damn-sure glad I didn't pony up about twice that much for one of the other
brands.
Using the new windshield, can you get away without any additional eye
protection? Can you wear a cap without having it blow off your head?
No fuckin' way. The new windshield is just not tall enough to do the job. I
haven't seen the Clearview or the Rifle models, but I understand that they're
both just about the same height. An aftermarket windshield is going to have
to be at least 8 inches taller than the stock one in order to furnish
adequate protection for an average sized rider. A piece of plastic that tall
would put an awfully large stress on the flimsy KLR fairing at high speeds.
I invite the comments of others have tried these aftermarket windshields.
Jim Henry, Co-Honcho
Republic Of Texas Biker Rally
Travis County Expo Center in Austin
4-6 June 1999
972-386-7619 vox/fax 972-866-8363 rally hotline info
Note:
I run the Clearview 8" with Stealth Edging and like it, YMMV. I get near total protection from
wind to the torso, the wind cuts into the chin/nose area but no turbulence and it ups and overs
the helmet nicely....But, it is three times as expensive as the above approach...
Kurt
>
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:56 PDT
From: "Conall O'Brien" <klr_a4@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) headlight modulator
http://www.kisantech.com/ is the modulator I use. Kisan Technologies in San
Jose CA. Check local law for your state.
Helps get you noticed when lanesharing.
Conall
>From: dan shaw <dan_iss@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dan shaw <dan_iss@yahoo.com>
>To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: (klr650) headlight modulator
>Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>does anyone have any experince with headlight modulators...how they
>work..what they do..where to get them...
>
>thanks
>dan
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>
>
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:18:47 -0700
From: Tom Myers <TomMyers@cycoactive.com>
Subject: (klr650) Moab overnighter?
Hello,
I'm thinking about poaching y'alls MOAB rally! I've been to Moab perhaps
seven times with pushbikes, never on a motorcycle. I'll be on an XR400 and
my partner AJ will be on a BMW. Our two bikes may average a KLR except
uglier.
It will be great to meet some KLR listers, especially the spirited ones
that I've argued with. This is really a great list. Will be good to visit
with Vik and Arne again.
We'd like to ride the White Rim Trail, and then camp in the desert
overnight; returning to Moab the next day. Can anyone help with the
logistics of this loop? Where does the White Rim start/end and which
direction will KLRallyers be riding it? Is there a great campsite at
either end? We definitely prefer rustic, ie undeveloped camping.
Any help greatly appreciated. I am GPS-enabled, so if you have lat/long
that will help too.
thanks,
Tom
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:03 -0700
From: Richard Ohnstad <rohnstad@earthlink.net>
Subject: (klr650) Honda Dual Sport - NKLR
Check out this site for what is available in Australia from Honda! If =
we had something like this here, it would be a temptation. I know, its =
heavier then a KLR.
http://www.hondampe.com.au/motorc/models/bike_content.asp?BikeID=3D103
Richard in Tucson
'94 KLR650
'86 VFR750
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