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klr650-digest           Friday, May 14 1999           Volume 02 : Number 403




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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:08:04 -0400
From: "J.Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) [NKLR] Rims

Kawasaki offers rim color options? I'll take black, no I'll take blue,
no black, no blue....

http://www.khi.co.jp/mcycle/lineup/mc/d_tracker/index_e.html

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:48:34 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (dr350) Alcohol at Utah Get-Together

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
To: Pokluda, Gino F <[e-mail]>; [e-mail] <[e-mail]>;
[e-mail] <[e-mail]>;
[e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: May 14, 1999 8:35 AM
Subject: (klr650) Re: (dr350) Alcohol at Utah Get-Together


>
>
>>With all of the talk of folks bringing their favorite libations to the
Utah
>>Get-Together, I just want to remind everyone that alcoholic beverages are
>>not allowed at Old City Park where the dinners will be hosted.  This is a
>>City of Moab ordinance.  Thanks.
>>
>>Gino
>
>
>There is no such ordinance at site #1 Canyonlands RV Park where I will
offer myself as libation
>tester for the event...
>
>Kurt (sacrifices in the name of science_

And for the information of all, site # 12 is a subsidiary of site # 1...

Arne - Member of Council of site # 12 (along with Councilors Banerjee and
Bonenfant)

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:25:24 -0600
From: "Vik Banerjee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler Review

I have my scottoiler sitting in its box waiting to be put into service.   I
haven't had much time to look at the install, but the only real question I
have is where do I get the vacuum pressure from on a KLR to activate the oil
flow?

Cheers,

Vik

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:24:21 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Fuse box modification

>Using resetable circuit breakers certainly makes it easy to
"fix" a
>blown circuit and continue on - but - assuming that the circuit
breakers
>used in this article work on thermal thresholds, and "blow" or
trip when
>the temperature reaches a certain level isn't there some danger
in
>simply stopping and turning the key off and waiting a few
minutes for
>cool down and then resetting the breakers?  Seems like something
caused
>them to trip in the first place.
>

My understanding is that you simply can't reset these breakers by
cycling the power, but they must cool down past a certain
threshold temperature before they reset.  If there is indeed a
problem with the wiring somewhere that is causing the heat and
resistance or short that caused the breaker to trip in the first
place, then the breaker will just trip again.  No harm done,
hopefully, but it tells you there is definately a problem that
needs attention.  Better than blowing a fuse, replacing it, then
blowing it again.

>Please understand that I am not saying this is not a good idea -
I just
>would like to hear some opinions about the use of resetable
breakers
>versus the kind you must manually change - I'm concerned about
the ease
>of simply resetting a breaker rather then having to find the
problem
>that caused it to blow.

No one said not to find the problem, but you won't be stuck
without a fuse for your headlight in the middle of nowhere.  I
think that this upgrade should be accompanied with upgrading the
headlight wire to a smaller gauge (larger diameter).  That's what
I intend to do anyway.  I'm a little skeptical about the circuit
breaker for the fan circuit though, as my A3 has never failed
there.

>
>Having said that, I have been with a number of KLRs on the road
that
>blew the 10amp fuse, and we simply put in a new one and went on
our way
>- never blew again!  So maybe it is all magic!


Just like a light bulb, vibrations and impact can shorten the
life of a fuse.  There was no problem with the wiring, just a
worn out fuse.

Jeff

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Mercer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: Scottoiler Review

 The kit comes with a bottle of oil used for
>refilling the reservoir.  Is this procedure of refilling pretty streight
>forward as it seems to be in the instructions?

There is a small breather tube attached to the top of the reservoir by a
rubber plug. To add oil, you must pull the plug out and then force oil into
the small opening. An adapter is provided with the kit for this. You can't
just pour it in like adding oil to the engine.

>On oil, the Scottoiler folks (Paul English) recommend automobile
>transmission oil as a replacement for Scottoil.

The Scottoiler folks want you to use very thin oil so it will seep into all
the nooks and crannies in your chain. However, when the weather gets warm
this oil thins out too much and flys off. I mix Scottoil 50/50 with chainsaw
bar and chain oil. This thickens the oil up a little and makes it a
stickier. They also recommend a flow rate of about one drop per minute. This
is way more than you need. I set mine for about one drop every three
minutes. When it's wet or cold I will increase the flow rate a little to
compensate for the increased viscosity. The flow rate adjuster is accurate
and easy to use. When traveling, I will take a glance at the chain at each
stop and adjust as necessary, but adjustments aren't needed very often. Once
you get it set the way you like it, it's almost completely maintenance free.
Just top off the reservoir before a long trip and go. When on long trips
(more than 3000 miles) I will top off with Mobile 1 15w50 so I don't have to
carry another bottle of oil along.

Eric

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:24:57 -0700
From: Mark C King <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Where is Diablo Kawasaki-BMW?

Anyone have an address for Diablo Kawasaki-BMW in Walnut Creek CA?

The phone number does not seem to work.

Mark


n Walnut Creek CaGood deals in the Bay area ?
>Try Diablo Kawasaki-BMW in Walnut Creek Ca. A month ago
>they had a '99 KLR 650 for $4350 or roughly $4900 out
>the door. Good luck. Their # is 510-938-8373.
>Conall
>A4 KLR650
>http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html
>
>
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:29:29 PDT
From: "Conall O'Brien" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Where is Diablo Kawasaki-BMW?

Area code changed. Try 925-938-8373.
1255 Parkside Dr.
WC CA 94596

Conall

>From: Mark C King <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: Mark C King <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (klr650) Where is Diablo Kawasaki-BMW?
>Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:24:57 -0700
>
>Anyone have an address for Diablo Kawasaki-BMW in Walnut Creek CA?
>
>The phone number does not seem to work.
>
>Mark
>
>
>n Walnut Creek CaGood deals in the Bay area ?
> >Try Diablo Kawasaki-BMW in Walnut Creek Ca. A month ago
> >they had a '99 KLR 650 for $4350 or roughly $4900 out
> >the door. Good luck. Their # is 510-938-8373.
> >Conall
> >A4 KLR650
> >http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________
> >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
> >
>
>


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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:33:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Juan Villarreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR- Viva la KLR!

Earlier I wrote:

> >>He took a lot of shit for not believing the
> KLR was the best thing
> to ever be put on two wheels.<<

To which Gino replied:

> You mean it isn't?  Next thing you know they'll
> tell me the Easter Bunny
> doesn't exist.

Okay, okay...  So I lost my head there for a bit.
Forgive me...  What could I have ever been
thinking?!!!

Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
"The Penitant Hooligan"

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Juan Villarreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR- Dual sport shirts

Hey Vik, just wondering what the word is on the
T-shirt thing.  And by the way, did you get my
money order?  Sorry to bug you, but that design's
got me pretty fired up.  Juan (dispatching the
goons in a matter of hours)

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:51:44 -0400
From: John Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) 500 Mile service (No Valve adjust)

I remember reading many of the posts about valve, valve shims adjustment
at 500 mile 1rst service. Was the consensus of opinion that all KLR650s
need the valve adjust?
I know the owner's manual says to check valve clearance at 500 mi and
adjust if necessary. I picked up my bike from the shop 2 hours ago and I
noticed from the receipt that there was no valve check done; they did
everything but. I questioned the service rep about it and he told me
that I don't need it until 3000 miles. Thoughts, advice, recommendations
anyone? Thanks in advance.

- -Brian Shepard
 [e-mail]
 Philadelphia PA

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:08:15 -0700
From: Tobin Lampson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Recall

Tom--
    Tom I. may be hot on the trail, so to speak.
    I had a time where 3-4 fuses blew. It was associated with
my headlight randomely going dead and coming back on. At first I
thought I was in for a headlight. Turned out that one of the
leads that hookup to the headlight had melted.
    Apparently the aftermarket headlight hibeam wattage was too
high; sucked too much juice and/or actually heated the wire so much
it was coming loose from its clip. A solid reattach and its fine.
    Check all aftermarket lighting for correct wattages, end
connections, frays.
    What I do sometimes is to figure out a way to visually either
watch the fuse or a meter while very carefully jiggling small amounts
of wire at a time, moving around to various points on the bike. Sooner
or later something usually presents itself.
    Remember safety............
                Good Luck    Tobin Lampson

Prospexx wrote:
>
> "Steve" <[e-mail]> wrote.
>
> Spoke too soon.  Just went for a ride and while looking at my reflection
> in
> the window  with no light on realized my FUSE had blown again.
>
> This is bullshit.  Can you say RECALL followed by Class Action?   How
> much
> time and cost has been expended by lister's on this problem alone, which
> is
> obvious under-engineering.  Has anyone's fuse not blown?
>
> Now I have to go rewire a brand-new bike because some schmuck saved 10
> cents
> per bike on piece of wire.
>
> "I have to say don't ever institute  any kind of action against a
> product you might want to buy again.
>
> Our KLR is inexpensive and has its faults. Go ahead and start a class
> action, or a mandated safety recall and let the feds become involved and
> one of two things will happen
>
> 1. You will see Kawasaki pull the bike from the market  (most likely
> scenario)
>
> 2. We all will pay for the results of the class action. Probably would
> then be able to justify F650's price, because the KLR would cost the
> same.
>
> Today's consumers are dumb as bricks.  We are protected from every
> conceivable danger, and that is thanks to people who institute actions
> against the manufacturers.  It is so bad that Toilet Paper manufacturers
> have to carry millions of dollars worth of liability insurance because
> some stupid shit might not know how to use it properly. Why is this not
> OK
>
> Because we have to pay 15-30% more for items we purchase than people do
> in countries where the Buyer Beware statement is how life works.
> Liability insurance often costs you more than the actual product you are
> buying.
>
> I figured out a long time ago how to take care of myself, and I don't
> want someone else protecting me from my voluntary purchase. LEAVE MY KLR
> ALONE. I can fix  the electric's on my own thanks. I don't need someone
> else using "the law to help me".
>
> I enjoy the challenges that life brings to me. Manage your own and I'll
> manage mine.
>
> Tom McKenzie
> [e-mail]
>
> Tom McKenzie
> [e-mail]
> telephone [phone]
> fax            [phone]
>
> mail
> T. McKenzie
> P.O. Box 43026, Station North
> Victoria BC, V8X 3G2
>
> courier
> T. McKenzie
> Suite 200, The Drane Building
> 735 Cloverdale Ave.,
> Victoria BC, V8X 2S6

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:11:02 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler Review

I believe it's the carb, no?

Arne

- -----Original Message-----
From: Vik Banerjee <[e-mail]>
To: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>; Eric Mercer <[e-mail]>; KLR
LIST <[e-mail]>
Date: May 14, 1999 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler Review


>I have my scottoiler sitting in its box waiting to be put into service.   I
>haven't had much time to look at the install, but the only real question I
>have is where do I get the vacuum pressure from on a KLR to activate the
oil
>flow?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Vik
>
>

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:15:03 -0400
From: John Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 500 mile check-up

You said they did the valve check. Did they need adjustment?
Thanks in advance.

- -Brian Shepard
 [e-mail]
 Philadelphia PA

Rev. Chuck MacKarness wrote:

> I just had my 500 mile check-up (at 470 miles) and I
> could not be more satisfied. I made an appointment,
> knowing if I could get it in at the opening of the
> door I could get back by hte and of the day. The
> dealer charged me $115.00 out of an estimated $150.00.
> I ask for the measurements of the valves prior to
> signing the estimate. No porblem, they record them for
> the customer record anyway. I know the valves were
> checked, all fluids checked and replaced or topped-up,
> air pressures (even the forks were equalized at 12
> psi, as I told the service manager I was running at),
> chains (drive AND cam!) and they cleaned it up
> overall. To top it off, it was done on time AND they
> sent me a 20% off coupon for my next visit to the
> dealer...
>
> It was even suggested I change out the fork springs
> for progressive, to get rid of that nasty dive.
>
> Watch out local dealers, there are some shops out
> there messing with your "take it or leave it"
> attitude, they will end up taking your customers!
>
> ===
> Rev. Chuck
> '99 KLR651
> :^)>+
>
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:01:31 -0400
From: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scottoiler Review

Vik,

The Scottoiler comes with a number of connectors for various vacuum sources.
The KLR is an easy one!

Go to the vacuum line that runs from the motor to the fuel valve - cut that line
and insert the "T" adapter that comes with the Scottoiler - you simply connect
the vacuum line to the oiler to this "T".

Bill

Vik Banerjee wrote:

> I have my scottoiler sitting in its box waiting to be put into service.   I
> haven't had much time to look at the install, but the only real question I
> have is where do I get the vacuum pressure from on a KLR to activate the oil
> flow?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Vik

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:52:16 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Kris Baja photos

I just put up some photos of Lister Kris Cichon and Mariola's trip through
Baja on their KLRs.  You can check out their trip at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/fred/kriscichon.html

Where is an umbrella when you need one?  Mariola you have definite
possibilities!!

Fred

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:39:26 -0600
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR  Circuit Breakers

>>I'd be concerned about using any type of circuit breaker on a
>>motorcycle...let alone a dirt(well sort of) bike.  Either thermal or
>>magnetic are effected by shock and vibration.  I would expect many mystery
>>faults which are really due to shock (physical...as in hitting a rock).
>>
>>Even fuses are subject to shock failure...especially if they are running
>>high currents which puts themclose to the fuse(open) point.   the metal
>>(fuseable material is soft-structually weak)
>>
>>I'm sticking with fuses.
>>
>>Bob
>>A10
>



Bob,
   I`ve been off for awhile finishing some projects and caught this thread.
I totally respect your choice to stay with glass fuses, especially if you
don`t have a problem with transient spikes
(which usually blow glass fuses ) but I`ve been running aircraft
circuit breakers for awhile now, off-road and on. I chose them because they
are DESIGNED  to hold up to vibration. Aircraft are notorious for vibration
and damaging components because of it.
That is one of the main reasons aircraft went to circuit breakers and got
rid of glass and filament breakers, because vibration was rendering filament
fuses short-lived.
     The other reason is transient spikes. These occur on most all motor
vehicles because of alternator system designs
( and flaws). Circuit breakers are designed to be a little more tolerant of
spikes and thermally absorb them. When design perimeters are exceeded, they
open. They are more reliable and safer than most filament fuses, otherwise
they wouldn`t be protecting $50,000 avionics panels. The average aircraft
circuit breaker usually makes 10+ years before replacement.
   Another advantage is that I now can isolate ( turn off) a circuit
without disconnecting my battery, by pulling the breaker to the circuit I
happen to want off ( lights for example).
   One more is the fact that no matter where I`m at, or at what time of the
day or night, I don`t have to worry about fuses anymore. I don`t need
spares, I don`t have to stop and remove my seat etc..If my light goes out
while driving in the rain, in traffic, and at night, I just reach down with
my left hand and reset my breaker, and never have to stop the bike. I did it
primarily for safety reasons as the above instance has happened to me and it
was a very dangerous situation to be without lights, raining and in heavy
traffic.

Back to work.

Skip

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