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klr650-digest          Thursday, May 13 1999          Volume 02 : Number 401




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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:59:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #399

In a message dated 5/13/99 5:26:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Has anyone's fuse not blown?

Two KLR650s and a KLR600 and never had a problem.

Gary

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 02:14:51 +0000
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- KLR in Africa...  PD?

Juan Villarreal wrote:

> --- [e-mail] wrote:
> > From: [e-mail]
>
> > I followed the above link and found this page
> > here,
> > http://www.magma.ca/~ptrahan/,
> > it's all in French but it's about a French
> > Canadian that competes in African
> > rallies , including the P.D. on a KLR.
>
> Hey Patrice, any chance you might be able to help
> the list out with a quick summary of what it
> says?

Exclusive video of Dakar 99 available before the whole world even not
presented to eht RDS. Send him an email if you're interested in a
presentation in a room with present & conference on the rally african.

urgent need of funding partners.

For the first time in history a Quebecois finally goes to participate in
this fabulous and legendary motorcycle race of endurance between Paris &
Dakar. Patrick Trahan goes to particpate the first day of the next
century to Dakar. He who in may 1998 was the first Canadian in history
to particpate in a road rally in Africa - rally of atlas. more details
on the profile.

which other pages do you want translated? profile, detailed budget for
dakar, pix, sponsors, catalogue of off-roading stuff.buy a t-shirt to
pay for his trip, favorite links, news.

>
> Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
> "The Happy Hooligan"
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

- --
Sarah Barwig
Developer
WeddingChannel.com
[phone]
888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA, 90017

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:45:23 -0700
From: "Dreas Nielsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) KLR Fuse box modification

I haven't blown a fuse in 12 years on a KLR.  These stories remind me of an
old Subaru I once hand, that developed a habit of blowing the ignition
circuit fuse on right-hand turns.  One of those "you can't get there from
here" situations...

Dreas


> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 06:09:30 -0400
> From: "Steve" <[e-mail]>

<snip>
> obvious under-engineering.  Has anyone's fuse not blown?

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:51:45 -0700
From: "Darrel & Deanna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Shipping  NKLR

Anybody know a good way to ship a motorcycle within the US?
Thanks.
Bob Kaub
*******************************
Bob-  Try http://www.libertymoving.com or 888-330-5599.  They ship bikes on
an oak skid with four tiedowns.  AMA discount.
Also Federal M/C transport at 800-747-4100 ext 217 or 218.  AMA endorsed.
Darrel  (AMA poster child)

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:48:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Patrice E. Robinet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR- KLR in Africa...  PD?

I am done with exams tomorrow (my last final: taxation of international
inbound transactions.....yumi yumi!!......)!!!!!!  Yeah!!!!  No more
classes EVER!!!! (except for the Florida Bar Review course this
summer.....man....what a way to spend the summer....)

As soon as I recover, next week perhaps...I'll check into that web site
and give you guys the low-down...

Trust a Frenchman to take a KLR on the PD!  Excellent!!

Cheers,

Patrice Robinet
Frenchman on Two Wheels (spending the night in the law library....)

On Thu, 13 May 1999, Juan Villarreal wrote:

> --- [e-mail] wrote:
> > From: [e-mail]
>
> > I followed the above link and found this page
> > here,
> > http://www.magma.ca/~ptrahan/,
> > it's all in French but it's about a French
> > Canadian that competes in African
> > rallies , including the P.D. on a KLR.
>
> Hey Patrice, any chance you might be able to help
> the list out with a quick summary of what it
> says?
>
> Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
> "The Happy Hooligan"
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Patrice E. Robinet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- KLR in Africa...  PD?

Looks like Sarah beat me to it....

Je ne savais pas que tu parlais francais!

Salut,

Patrice Robinet

On Fri, 14 May 1999, Sarah Barwig wrote:

> Juan Villarreal wrote:
>
> > --- [e-mail] wrote:
> > > From: [e-mail]
> >
> > > I followed the above link and found this page
> > > here,
> > > http://www.magma.ca/~ptrahan/,
> > > it's all in French but it's about a French
> > > Canadian that competes in African
> > > rallies , including the P.D. on a KLR.
> >
> > Hey Patrice, any chance you might be able to help
> > the list out with a quick summary of what it
> > says?
>
> Exclusive video of Dakar 99 available before the whole world even not
> presented to eht RDS. Send him an email if you're interested in a
> presentation in a room with present & conference on the rally african.
>
> urgent need of funding partners.
>
> For the first time in history a Quebecois finally goes to participate in
> this fabulous and legendary motorcycle race of endurance between Paris &
> Dakar. Patrick Trahan goes to particpate the first day of the next
> century to Dakar. He who in may 1998 was the first Canadian in history
> to particpate in a road rally in Africa - rally of atlas. more details
> on the profile.
>
> which other pages do you want translated? profile, detailed budget for
> dakar, pix, sponsors, catalogue of off-roading stuff.buy a t-shirt to
> pay for his trip, favorite links, news.
>
> >
> > Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
> > "The Happy Hooligan"
> > _________________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com
>
> --
> Sarah Barwig
> Developer
> WeddingChannel.com
> [phone]
> 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
> Los Angeles, CA, 90017
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:52:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Juan Villarreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR- Sham(med)

- --- Dave Wormmeester <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> > Wasn't Sham one of our early subscribers?
> >
> > Gino
>
> Please don't ask him which is better.  A KLR or
> an XT
>
> Dave W.
> Grand Rapids Mi.

Yes he was one of the early subscribers.
Although I wasn't around then, I did read his
submissions while browsing through the archives .
 Very sensible, level-headed, and articulate--
worth checking out even now.  He took a lot of
shit for not believing the KLR was the best thing
to ever be put on two wheels.  It's a shame
really, as the guy seemed to know what he was
talking about.  Definitely our loss...

Juan Villarreal (enemy of blind allegiance),
'97 KLR
"The Happy Hooligan"

_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:30:09 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Proper braking

In a message dated 5/13/99 5:50:06 PM, [e-mail] writes:

>I use the brakes verses engine braking...not be cause it does not work..or
>even bad practice.  I just think I would rather put wear and stress on
>cheaply replacable brake pads vs spinning up the engine and all it's bits.
>
  One of the advantages of engine breaking is it is able to provide
deacceleration while keeping the rear wheel turning, thus allowing traction.
  Inexperieced riders tend to apply too much pressure to the rear break and
lock up the rear wheel, thus entering into a skid.

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:40:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Sham(med)

On 5/13/99, [e-mail] writes: snip

>Although I wasn't around then, I did read his
>submissions while browsing through the archives .
> Very sensible, level-headed, and articulate--
>worth checking out even now.  He took a lot of
>shit for not believing the KLR was the best thing
>to ever be put on two wheels.  It's a shame
>really, as the guy seemed to know what he was
>talking about.  Definitely our loss...



 Juan, I was around then. I'm not an XT basher, I have an xt500 in
 my garage. As I recall he left the list because he went traveling
 overseas. When he returned, he started up his own web site and
 a club catering to dusters in the Ontario area. Sham is great and
 I've enjoyed being a charter subscriber to his ODSC mailing list.
 But if I posted to his list about how superior the riding was in
 say Redondo compared to Ontario, I might expect similar rebuttals
 from the listers there. These are enthusiast lists after all. When
 another team's flag gets raised, sometimes you're gonna hear
 sis boom bah...

 Redondo Ron A10 - who still enjoys a cheerleader now and then

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:31:48 -0700
From: "Tom Ingram" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) exhaust leak

I finished installing the jet kit (from Fred) with the help of the article
on the KLR650 Dual Sport website, and the bike started right up.  I only
rode it about a mile though, as I found smoke rising from under the seat.
For  a moment I had pyrotechnic visions of me and the bike going up in
flames because I had failed to secure the fuel line properly, but I stopped
to see what was smoking, and it is coming from the exhaust pipe, where the
front header pipe mates in a slip joint with the rear pipe.  This may not be
stock, because the original owner installed a Supertrapp.

My questtion to the listers is this:  What do you recommend I use on the
pipe joint to help seal it?

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:40:55 -0700
From: "ripkid" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR- KLR in Africa...  Dialectizer!!

>
> > I followed the above link and found this page
> > here,
> > http://www.magma.ca/~ptrahan/,
> > it's all in French but it's about a French
> > Canadian that competes in African
> > rallies , including the P.D. on a KLR.
>
> Hey Patrice, any chance you might be able to help
> the list out with a quick summary of what it
> says?
>
> Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
> "The Happy Hooligan"

Ok--- so I may not be able to help decipher French. But you might just find
it interesting if you plug the DSN webpage link:
http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/ , into the "DIALECTIZER", found at
http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/. This will most certainly convert this
well loved web-site into a readily understandable format for those of us
with roots in the Southern parts of the US. There are also several other
options available for those with similar hadicaps.

Have fun and don't shoot the messenger.

Rik - A13 w/ an attitude.

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:34:22 -0700
From: "Vik Banerjee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- KLR in Africa...  Dialectizer!!

I finally scanned in the article about Mr, Trahan and sent it to Eric J to
post on his website.

Cheers,

Vik


- -----Original Message-----
From: ripkid <[e-mail]>
To: klr <[e-mail]>
Cc: KLR  650 <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:39 PM
Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR- KLR in Africa... Dialectizer!!


>
>
>>
>> > I followed the above link and found this page
>> > here,
>> > http://www.magma.ca/~ptrahan/,
>> > it's all in French but it's about a French
>> > Canadian that competes in African
>> > rallies , including the P.D. on a KLR.
>>
>> Hey Patrice, any chance you might be able to help
>> the list out with a quick summary of what it
>> says?
>>
>> Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
>> "The Happy Hooligan"
>
>Ok--- so I may not be able to help decipher French. But you might just find
>it interesting if you plug the DSN webpage link:
>http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/ , into the "DIALECTIZER", found at
>http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/. This will most certainly convert this
>well loved web-site into a readily understandable format for those of us
>with roots in the Southern parts of the US. There are also several other
>options available for those with similar hadicaps.
>
>Have fun and don't shoot the messenger.
>
>Rik - A13 w/ an attitude.
>
>

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:12:52 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Fuse box modification

>This question goes to the many engineers and other technically
>proficient folks we have on this LIST.
>
>Recently, I posted an article by Arne on the modification of the KLR
>fuse box.  Arne did a great job of describing the modification and I
>believe it is a very worthwhile mod.
>
>http://www.dualsport.org/page122.html
>
>I have been contemplating making the mod myself but I have one lingering
>question I would like some input on.  Here it is:
>
>Using resetable circuit breakers certainly makes it easy to "fix" a
>blown circuit and continue on - but - assuming that the circuit breakers
>used in this article work on thermal thresholds, and "blow" or trip when
>the temperature reaches a certain level isn't there some danger in
>simply stopping and turning the key off and waiting a few minutes for
>cool down and then resetting the breakers?  Seems like something caused
>them to trip in the first place.

I thought about this before I made the modification, but in reality, the
only thing that changes is the ease of resetting/changing the breaker/fuse.
What I am saying is that either way, 'something' caused the trip, and that
'something' should be determined if the problem persists  (ie. One fellow I
know was blowing the headlight circuit off-road, until he went back to the
stock/lower wattage bulb).  Further to this, I don't think the level of
danger increases by the modification change - providing the breaker is doing
its' job.  If there is a real problem, it will simply trip again.  I think
the frustration level at this point would be reduced somewhat (as opposed to
riding 5 miles, with everything buttoned up again, and then having to tear
it apart again, if you had the stock set-up)

>Please understand that I am not saying this is not a good idea - I just
>would like to hear some opinions about the use of resetable breakers
>versus the kind you must manually change - I'm concerned about the ease
>of simply resetting a breaker rather then having to find the problem
>that caused it to blow.

Again... either way, one should take the time to determine the problem if
the problem persists.

>Having said that, I have been with a number of KLRs on the road that
>blew the 10amp fuse, and we simply put in a new one and went on our way
>- never blew again!  So maybe it is all magic!
>
>Some comments please.
>
>Bill

Arne

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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:33:23 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Fuse box modification

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Zeliff <[e-mail]>
To: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>; KLR LIST <[e-mail]>
Date: May 13, 1999 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Fuse box modification


>I'd be concerned about using any type of circuit breaker on a
>motorcycle...let alone a dirt(well sort of) bike.  Either thermal or
>magnetic are effected by shock and vibration.  I would expect many mystery
>faults which are really due to shock (physical...as in hitting a rock).
>
>Even fuses are subject to shock failure...especially if they are running
>high currents which puts themclose to the fuse(open) point.   the metal
>(fuseable material is soft-structually weak)
>
>I'm sticking with fuses.
>
>Bob
>A10

Having done the modification (which will accept a blade fuse as well)  I
will give a success/failure report after Moab.  In the heat we're going to
experience, coupled with the terrain, I'm sure I will know whether they work
or not.

BTW, I went with a HD circuit breaker for $10 a piece, as opposed to a
standard for around $3.50.

Arne

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