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klr650-digest           Sunday, May 9 1999           Volume 02 : Number 384




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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:17:38 -0500
From: Mark <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Scraping pegs

>>I recall reading somewhere a while ago
>>that riders everywhere lean over harder on left turns.
>>
>>Dreas
>
>My guess is that riders are more confident (thus aggressive) on left turns
>because you have better access to the rear brake pedal.
>
>Tom

Also, a crash will take you off the road instead of into oncoming traffic.
Mark
B2
A2

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:24:00 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) One more oil question

No this is not normal.  You have water in your oil.  Most likely your
waterpump seals are leaking.  How is your coolant level doing?

Fred


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Karl Raupp <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 10:40 PM
Subject: (klr650) One more oil question


>     OK, I have one final oil question ;)  Tonight after getting home from
> work, I added some oil and started the engine.  I let it run for a minute
or
> so and then checked the sight glass.  Surprisingly, the oil in the sight
> glass was kind of 'milky', almost whitish.  Is this normal?
>
> Thanks again!
> Karl
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:30:47 -0700
From: Tobin Lampson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) WANTED KLR650

Yes,
    It's true. I have successfully indoctrinated another for the
new world order. A good friend of perhaps 15 years, formerly a BMW
rider is now in search of a KLR. He says $2300 is as much as he has.
Anybody have one? Any tips, referrals? He is in so Cal.
            Thank You,    Tobin Lampson

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:56:40 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) WANTED KLR650

On 5/8/99, [e-mail] writes:
>    It's true. I have successfully indoctrinated another for the
>new world order. A good friend of perhaps 15 years, formerly a BMW
>rider is now in search of a KLR. He says $2300 is as much as he has.
>Anybody have one? Any tips, referrals? He is in so Cal.



 Tobin, see if your friend can ~slide into one of these....
 Redondo Ron

==========================
1992
Price    $2200.00 OBO
92 klr650 sale or trade for 800cc or bigger cruiser
Phone    [phone]
eMail    [e-mail]
============================
1994
Price    $2,500.00
94 Kawasaki KLR650 Great bike, new condition,
garaged. 13,000 miles. Fun to ride on street or dirt.
Phone    [phone]
eMail    [e-mail]
============================
1993
Price    $2,200.00 OBO
Ad Text    93 Kawasaki KLR 650 Looks new, very clean, not off-roaded.
Name    Mike
Phone    [phone]
eMail    [e-mail]
=============================

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:35:36 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Fw: BOUNCE [e-mail]:    Non-member submission from ["Tim Royer" <[e-mail]>]

>From: "Tim Royer" <[e-mail]>
>To: "KLR" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: A Fork Oil question for the Oil GURUs
>Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 22:57:01 -0500
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Priority: 3
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Hey
> It has been maintanence day for the back road bomber.
>At 8200 miles Kaw-Thump got new chain, sprockets (16T driver) oil change
>(castrol Syntec ( no clutch slippage in 5000 miles yet)), coolant flush and
>change (went to the extended life silicate and phosphate free) and lubed
>all the swing arm parts (with Moly grase this time).
> I was about to begin to install my Progressive springs when I realized
>that I did not have any fork oil.
>My question is, what is so special about fork oil, can a standard auto
>grade engine oil 10W 30 be used? If I have to get fork oil the springs will
>have to wait till next weekend.
>Thanks
>Tim Royer (98 KLR Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber)
>
>P.S. have a great time at Moab 99, once again business has kept me from
>going. but some one send me a T shirt.
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:47:17 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: KLR650 luggage

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Rayer <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 9:37 AM
Subject: KLR650 luggage


>Hi,
>
>I was looking at you KLR WWW site looking for info. about some soft luggage
>system that would accomodate a briefcase in a side bag.  The dimensions for
>the
>Driveline stuff seem a bit small.  any ideas?
>
>thanks,
>
>
>Dennis


I think any sidebag is going to be tight for a briefcase. I would go with a
Top of the Line rear rack and an Ortlieb Dry Duffel or Tim's Bernard's
TailBag...

Kurt

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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:10:39 -0600
From: Mike Sonzini <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) DualStar wrenches (now headlight protection)

Rob Gendreau wrote:

> What's the name and brand of this stuff? I've looked in several autoparts
> stores here in CA and haven't even found anyone who's heard of the stuff
> (Grand Auto, PepBoys, etc.). Thanks.
>
> >
> > Yeah, for about $8 here in FLA, covers nearly four headlights if you are
> > judicious in your cutting.

I checked AutoZone, Big A, Checker, and Pepboys.  Nobody has ever heard of the
stuff.

Mike

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:16:37 -0700
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Seattle sighting

I met Vik Banerjee and Arne Larsen in Seattle today.  Real nice guys.
Wished I had more time to spend.

Tom

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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:48:30 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Scraping Pegs

Jeff queried:

> Has anyone ever scraped pegs on a KLR on a fast curve?

Only occasionally with the standard serrated-steel 600B1 pegs, but to
do that I have to hang my boot in space as the peg is rather narrow.
Got a few good scrapes while manouvring the tight Honda Australia Rider
Training track with the steel pegs, and amazed a few road bike
riders in the process.
Now that I've fitted rubberised Tengai pegs, and fitted hero bolts
on the ends too, it should be piss easy to arc them up, although I
haven't got around to trying since they were fitted.

Mister_T

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:19:34 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Seattle sighting

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: May 8, 1999 11:19 PM
Subject: (klr650) Seattle sighting


>I met Vik Banerjee and Arne Larsen in Seattle today.  Real nice guys.
>Wished I had more time to spend.
>
>Tom

Thanks Tom.  It was too funny (to the list), I'm outside the store talking
to a couple other guys, when this Honda 400R pulls in.  I notice a
"CYCO-ACTIVE" sticker on the tank.  "I wonder if he knows Tom Myers", I
think to myself.  Then I notice another sticker... then another... then
another..."Tom?"  O.K., I guess you had to be there.

Hey Tom, Vik and I couldn't pull out of there with a couple Bar Pak's BTW
=^)

Arne

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 06:13:05 -0400
From: "Bob Zeliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) One more oil question

Milky color oil is what and oil mixed with water looks like.  Did you do
anything to get water in your oil?
bob
a10
- -----Original Message-----
From: Karl Raupp <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 9:46 PM
Subject: (klr650) One more oil question


>    OK, I have one final oil question ;)  Tonight after getting home from
>work, I added some oil and started the engine.  I let it run for a minute
or
>so and then checked the sight glass.  Surprisingly, the oil in the sight
>glass was kind of 'milky', almost whitish.  Is this normal?
>
>Thanks again!
>Karl
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:07:40 +0100 (BST)
From: Yusseri Yusoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) The chain and the reluctant masterlink

Listers,

Some may vaguely remember me asking about x-rings, o-rings, and the like.
Anyway, I went and bought myself an EK X-ring chain some time ago. I only
got round to trying to fit it in yesterday after finally managing to
borrow a grinder off a mate.

Anyhow, chain fits but I can't for the life of me fit the masterlink in.
On the back of the box, it says that the link is of 'semi-press' type and
to secure the clip once it's in.

1. There weren't no clip in the box.

2. Semi press my posterior! I tried pressing the figure eight bit (whatsit
called?) onto the link but it won't go in.

How do you guys do it? I've read people changing the counter-shaft
sprocket in 15 minutes and all that.

How'd you get the link off the chain AND put it on so quick?

I'm thinking of getting myself a G-clamp type thing to cram the whatsit
onto the link. There has to be a better way, no?

Cheers,

Yus
A1

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:16:47 +0100 (BST)
From: Yusseri Yusoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Rounded bolts, sheared bolts (and nuts)

OK, this is starting to make me look real incompetent but what the heck. I
asked earlier about how one goes about removing broken nuts and Kurt gave
me a few suggestions which I figured was about right. I had to use the
most extreme solution, i.e. I had to drill through and retap.

Now, whilst wrestling with my chain, I decided to take the rear brake
caliper off.

However, one of the bolts went and got itself rounded some time back (my
fault). This one's got me a bit defeated. The bolt is recessed into the
bracket holding the caliper and it's an allen (hex?) bolt.

Any suggestions as to how to take it off? Pads need replacing.

Cheers,

Yus
A1
k

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Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 08:49:11 -0400
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) The chain and the reluctant masterlink

At 01:07 PM 5/9/99 +0100, Yusseri Yusoff wrote:
>
>Listers,
>
>Some may vaguely remember me asking about x-rings, o-rings, and the like.
>Anyway, I went and bought myself an EK X-ring chain some time ago. I only
>got round to trying to fit it in yesterday after finally managing to
>borrow a grinder off a mate.
>
>Anyhow, chain fits but I can't for the life of me fit the masterlink in.
>On the back of the box, it says that the link is of 'semi-press' type and
>to secure the clip once it's in.
>
>1. There weren't no clip in the box.
>
>2. Semi press my posterior! I tried pressing the figure eight bit (whatsit
>called?) onto the link but it won't go in.
>
>How do you guys do it? I've read people changing the counter-shaft
>sprocket in 15 minutes and all that.
>
>How'd you get the link off the chain AND put it on so quick?
>
>I'm thinking of getting myself a G-clamp type thing to cram the whatsit
>onto the link. There has to be a better way, no?



    The tool that works the best for compressing the side plate onto the
master link (for me) has always been a set of locking  "Vice-Grip"-type
pliars. After that its just a matter of getting the master link to slip
into the grooves on the pins. I ussualy use a small ball peen hammer and a
small flat-bladed screw driver to seat or remove the clip.


HTH


- -Tom
'96 KLR 650

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 06:34:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alex Jomarron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) milky oil

Karl,
Please post your findings.
It sounds to me that water has contaminated your oil.

Alex
===
Alex Jomarron
Oak Park, IL USA
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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:33:21 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) The chain and the reluctant masterlink

The list had several good suggestions when I went through the same problem,
making a wood press, grooving a pair of visegrips, using robo grips, I went
to a standard masterlink without the oring on the oring chain that way I can
change it out in the field with only a pair of pliers as I generally have
problems in the middle of nowhere without the special tools, have not noticed
any unusual problems with this setup. Lot easier to install as you are not
compressing the orings.

Ringless in Texas
Larry

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 15:34:13 +0100 (BST)
From: Yusseri Yusoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) The chain and the reluctant masterlink

On Sun, 9 May 1999, Tom Simpson wrote:

>     The tool that works the best for compressing the side plate onto the
> master link (for me) has always been a set of locking  "Vice-Grip"-type
> pliars. After that its just a matter of getting the master link to slip
> into the grooves on the pins. I ussualy use a small ball peen hammer and a
> small flat-bladed screw driver to seat or remove the clip.
>
>
> HTH
>
>
> -Tom
> '96 KLR 650

Thanks Tom. I think I got the terminology all confused in my previous post
- -- the whatsits' the sideplate... Anyhow, I've been thinking of either
getting the pliars like you described or a G-clamp. I just needed to
confirm that that was the right way of doing it.

One thing though, on the chain that I got, there were no grooves on the
pin nor were there any clips provided. I think I may have to go back to
the shop and ask them a few questions...

Cheers,

Yus

- --
Yusseri Yusoff / [e-mail]
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/showstaff?Yusoff
Centre for Vision, Speech and Signal Processing
University of Surrey
Guildford GU2 5XH

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 15:38:52 +0100 (BST)
From: Yusseri Yusoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) The chain and the reluctant masterlink

On Sun, 9 May 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> The list had several good suggestions when I went through the same problem,
> making a wood press, grooving a pair of visegrips, using robo grips, I went
> to a standard masterlink without the oring on the oring chain that way I can
> change it out in the field with only a pair of pliers as I generally have
> problems in the middle of nowhere without the special tools, have not noticed
> any unusual problems with this setup. Lot easier to install as you are not
> compressing the orings.
>
> Ringless in Texas
> Larry
>

Larry, I'm not too sure what you mean because the rig I got was the chain,
two pins with one side plate already attached and another sideplate. So
far as I could see, the O-rings on the two ends are permanently attached
to the links and I just had to poke the two pins at the ends and press the
other side plate onto the link. Or am I just confused here, again?

Cheers,

Yus

- --
Yusseri Yusoff / [e-mail]
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/showstaff?Yusoff
Centre for Vision, Speech and Signal Processing
University of Surrey
Guildford GU2 5XH

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Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 07:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Hooper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain contact with frame!!!!

Status so far:  Based on some suggestions from the list, I looked at
the countershaft sprocket position(OK), and the rear wheel spacers (OK,
I think??).  The distance from the outer surface of the rear sprocket
to the inner side of the swing arm on my KLR (the clearance from the
sprocket to the swing arm) is right at 5/8 of an inch.  Is this what it
should be?
Thanks,
John

- --- John Hooper <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> OK guys, I need some help!  I started disassembling
> the KLR rear
> suspension a couple of weeks ago to do a lube job.
> I ran into a snag
> getting the rocker off, and got some good input from
> some of the folks
> on this mailing list to get over that hurdle.
> Anyway, I got it apart
> and lubed, then went out to New Mexico for some R&R.
>  I got back
> yesterday, re-assembled the bike, and went for a
> quick check ride.  I
> found that the chain is making light, intermittent
> contact with the nut
> on the back side of the attach flange for the rear
> subframe.  It
> appears that the chain now rides slightly (maybe 1/8
> inch) further to
> the left. I have pulled it back apart, but I donÆt
> see anything wrong,
> and I donÆt see any adjustment to compensate.    At
> this point, IÆm
> stuck! I canÆt see what I did wrong, and I canÆt see
> any technique to
> correct it.   Has anyone had this situation before?
> Any suggestions???
>
> Thanks,
> John Hooper
>
>
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