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klr650-digest           Monday, May 3 1999           Volume 02 : Number 358




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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 06:06:18 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Capitalists vs. Communist?  NKLR

I'm a 35 year old Canadian.  Everyone cheer...HOORAY!  Actually, my point is
that I am fairly fluent in both systems, as it was around grade 4 or 5 when
we made the switch.  To this day though, I gotta use PSI to know about air
pressure, and MPG (although a Canadian gallon, not American) - to know if
I'm getting good milage or not.

Arne - not a true convert I guess.

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From: Jeff & Lisa Walker <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
<[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: May 3, 1999 12:15 AM
Subject: (klr650) Capitalists vs. Communist? NKLR


> (or in commie lingo, 69.4 - 72.2 C),
>opening about 1/8", (or no less than 3 mm) @ 185 F (85 C).
>If not, it's time for a new one.
>
>Redondo Ron <-- rampant capitalist versed in commie measures
>
>
>I'm one of the most stalwart patriotic American capitalists you
>can find, and I gotta tell you that metrics (SI) isn't a commie
>plot, but a scientific plot.  I don't personally care for the
>centigrade temperature scale, but everything else SI is awesome.
>I think that keeping the U.S. on the US Customary, or FPS system,
>is a criminal conspiracy to defraud the American people.  Its an
>attempt to cheat people by using confusing weights and measures
>that are difficult to convert.  Who really cares how many ounces
>there are in a box of Captain Crunch?  I want to know how many
>bowls of cereal are in that box.   Or with gasoline, how can they
>justify charging the public with a supposed accuracy to the
>thousandth of a gallon?  Well, I'm off to count how many
>cornflakes it takes to make a gram.
>
>Jeff
>

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Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:26:36 -0400
From: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) [Fwd: Dual Sport Rally]

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Dear Bill,

I am in Miss. and am trying to figure a way to go out to Utah.  I am a
new KLR rider and a relatively new MC rider. I have been riding for less
than two years but have clocked about 20k in those two years.

I have some scheduling problems , but I am working on those. Do you know
of anyone from this area going out and when.

Thanks for your information and time.

Sincerely,

Hollis McGehee
Meadville, MS



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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:08:57 -0700
From: "Robert Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Capitalists vs. Communist?  NKLR

How many Quarks are there in a Millibleam anyway?
Morgan
(Still trying to convert the air hose at the gas station to kilopascals)

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:13:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR klr650-digest V2 #355

In a message dated 5/2/99 6:44:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> >I have to seek the soul mates for my KLRs elsewhere.
>  >
>  >Marta
>

Marta, Sorry to see you go. I have been on this list since the beginning and
have occasionally been subject to topics that i didn't enjoy or that offended
me. Usually these topics go away quickly. When an offensive remark gets
little or no comment it is because most on the list won't give it the
bandwidth of  a reply. You might consider trying the digest version for a
while (easier to skip over unwanted posts). Unfortunately this can be a
problem with any public medium. Be assured that there are many really good
folk here and please do not judge the rest of us by the actions of a few.
Also some of are still learning how to act in mixed company and might
appreciate your input (remember to NKLR).

Thanks and keep riding,

Gary

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Patrice E. Robinet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: (klr650) Disappointed

I couldn't have said it better myself.  So ditto!

Patrice Robinet
Frenchman on Two Wheels (putting in his 2 Francs' worth)
1998 KLR 650


On Mon, 3 May 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

> I noticed something about most of the responses to Marta's note.  Those
> responses from people that I reconginzed as being with our little group for a
> long time were stateing our sorrow for losing a member over bad taste.  Those
> smart-ass remarks about going to your little world and such were from people
> that I have never heard from, or very little.  This is much like our
> motorcycle experience in the real world.  Have you ever noticed that the
> squid that pulls the wheelies through school zones and speeds by the DQ at
> triple the speed limit all whine about their "rights" and that it's a free
> world?  Then they decide to get their rocks off with something else and those
> of us left with our hobby (passion?) have to deal with the mess left behind.
>
> I'm sorry that we lost someone that has a passion for our sport, and I'm even
> more sorry that a few of you feel that she didn't deserve to be with our list
> because she didn't want to have to weed her away through the notes sent in
> poor taste.  I agree that we should encourage her to be a little more
> tolerant, but we all have a breaking point, and when it's crossed, things
> break....
>
> Good bye Marta, and good luck.
>
> Smart-Ass responders, ES&D.
>
> MN Ron
>

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:52:07 -0700
From: "Prospexx" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR

Enough of Marta,

I am flabbergasted that she touched so many. She has a choice and a
voice and she used both.  Isn't that what the group is about. Tucked in
behind our big dirt biker facade,  are a collection of very soft,
sensitive men.

Well I have to get back to my needlepoint.. Bye Bye.

Tom McKenzie
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:58:11 -0400
From: Mark McCoy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Not Disappointed....

Not Disappointed....That I bought the KLR!!!!!!

Comments on various recent topics from a newbie lurker:

After a torturous weekend (last weekend) where I had to let my brand new
A13 sit in the driveway with 10 miles on the odo while I worked on the
house, I made up for lost time this weekend.  I managed to rack up 100
miles around home on a couple of evenings.  One of the reasons I bought
the KLR was to do my 130 mile daily commute and Friday was the first
day.  I may end up wanting a 16 tooth countershaft sprocket  My trip to
work is between Dayton and Cincinnati, Ohio and in the morning traffic
moves swiftly and speeds range between 75 & 85 mph.  The dealer said
that breakin procedure did not need to be strictly adhered to and it is
the good thing because 4k RPM is not even 65 MPH.

My wife and I took a short ride Saturday and I she was not comfortable.
I got a little frustrated because she kept telling me the VFR is much
better for her to ride on but she wasn't verbalizing why.  When we got
home she started to think about it more and it might be the slope of the
seat and the peg placement.  She also said she can't see past me and it
is hard to anticipate our moves.  I think that might be because I am not
leaning forward, which is part of the reason I wanted the KLR.  I think
I will take some measurements off of the VFR, that she likes, to see how
it compares.

Sunday made it all worthwhile.  Like that golf shot where your last
approach shot stops dead on the green leaving you a 6' put and you can't
wait to play the next time, yesterday was that perfect day of riding.
Two friends and I took a 400 mile romp through southeastern Ohio.  We
had a TDM, a R100GS and the KLR.  For those of you unfamiliar with the
terrain here, where I live is as flat as a pool table and we have to
drone for at least an hour before the roads get fun.  Once you get
there, though, the riding is first rate.  The KLR carried the flag just
fine and just kept running better and better the more broken in it got.
Again deviating from the KHI recommended break in procedure, I pretty
much rode it like I stole it.  Only the future will tell if I will pay
any consequences (oil consumption discussion content).

It is now ready for the first service with about 650 miles on it.  We
were about 150 miles from home and I told my friends I needed to adjust
my valves and they said they wouldn't wait on me.   My dealer said that
they do the first service for $40 plus parts and would do anything the
service schedule called for for that charge.  That sounds like a good
deal and I plan to take it back to them.  This is the first bike I have
ever bought new and am used to doing everything myself but I think I
will let them service it during the warranty period.  I might paint a
stripe on the head cover with nail polish because $40 seems a little too
good to be true (dealer rip off discussion content).  What is the proper
shade to not clash with the cylinder cases?

I plan to mount hard bags on the bike and I think I have settled into
Givis.  There might be a better solution out there but the Givis seem to
be the most versatile.  If I like them I might also rig them to mount on
the VFR.  I called Givi and they were making tubular racks but had some
break and are going to hold off on shipping anymore.  I think I am going
to buy the "Wing Racks" and try (with some help) to fabricate some
mounts.  It looks to me like you could fish a tube or something right
between the muffler and the tail section and attach it somehow to the
rear sub frame.  Anybody know of this kind of attempt?  I looked pretty
extensively through the archives.

I have wanted one of these for about the last two years.  My friend who
lives in Oregon has one he lets me ride and I have put probably 2k on it
over the last several years.  Yesterday waxed it for me.  Glad to have
this list as a resource!

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:55:19 -0600
From: "Kollar, Kevin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) KLR tweety be gone?

So during this mornings start up/warm up/get the helmet on ritual Tweety was
pointing his rear into the garage, man that noise is horrible!  I kept
hoping one of the more creative exhaust surgeons out there would post the
cure for the chirpy blues.  As the quality of the various aftermarket
exhausts seems pitiful, this option doesn't thrill me either.  What's a boy
to do, I'd rather not call my A10 Tweety.  Sing it with me:

My exhaust is a chirpin'
Don't know what to do
Got me no options
cept to sing the Tweety blues

Kevin

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:51:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Disappointed

Oh, Ron, you're such a suck-up.

Chris Lawson
KLR650

<< Smart-Ass responders, ES&D.

 MN Ron>>

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:05:58 -0400
From: Chalz Milliken <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Joke

Can someone please send me (off the list) that Joke that seemed to piss so=
 many people off.  I delete allot of the list mail because I am so dam busy=
 and I must have deleted that joke. Now, after seeing all the reaction from=
 it, I am very interested in knowing what all the fuss is about. Don't worry=
 about offending me because I'm a big Howard Stern Fan and feel like humor=
 saves me from feeling all stressed out and uptight.
I need a laugh on this rainy Monday.
please help.
Chalz
A13

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Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 09:13:04 -0600
From: Jeff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) ShimCalc works.

This past weekend the weather was not favorable for joyous riding so I tore
apart my KLR and checked the valve clearances.  I've got 743 miles on it
now and knew the 500 mile check wasn't done because I verified that the
clearances were too tight at 739 miles.  Like I said, it was bad weather
and this time I got to the valves in 20 minutes.

I used ShimCalc to calculate the new "Ideal" shim and it concurs with my
observation that if I want to increase the clearance thereby bringing the
measurements closer to the specifications, I must decrease the thickness of
the shim.  (DAH)  In fact, after measuring clearances twice, measuring shim
thickness' twice, and calculating with shimcalc four times, I finally
agreed with the shimcalc results.  (Thick Head measured too).   I think the
conversion to metric confused me.

The bottom line is that ShimCalc works.  I'm going to the next thinnest
shim on each valve and I should gain a clearance of .002" on an inch on
each valve.  I couldn't grasp the basic concept of Kawaski's labeling on
the shims.  The obvious factor I overlooked is that a 265 shim is 5 mm
thinner than a 270.  And 5 mm is equal to .002".  To myself I say --- DAH!
I nailed this evaluation!

If I had started with the knowledge that the labeling on the shims is
thickness of the shim in mm, I think I wouldn't have had to get my keyboard
on my computer oily from the KLR fluids.

Now I just need to find the shims and I hope this info saves your keyboard
someday.
- --
Jeff, NM, A13 & '74 TR5T Triumph Adventurer (A Triumph that could tractor)

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Juan Villarreal <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR- Disappointed

Marta,

I too am disappointed- disappointed to see you
go. I apologize for any offense you may have
taken to my post, as that certainly wasn't my
intent.  I just kind of figured that some of the
people who are into motorcycles might be
interested in taking a look at those pictures.
Please take the time to reconsider, as this list
is as good a place as any to find your "KLR
soulmate."  If it makes you feel any better I'm
now about 99% certain that it wasn't a shootdown
after all.  It was instead an airshow mishap.

But the fact remains that there ARE American
troops "over there," doing their best under some
very trying circumstances, all at the behest of
our civilian leadership.  It should be remembered
that THEY are the ones who determine where we go
and what we do once we get there.  But if MY
choice involves either losing 1 American life or
taking 10 Serbian lives, you can rest assured I
won't hesitate to do everything I can to make
sure our fellow American makes it back home safe
to his/her family.  Does this make me a bad human
being?  Because I take exception to the
implication that I might, in any way, be a
sadistic person.  I am not.

I am a navigator on an air refueling platform,
and my job is to make sure we get the gas to the
people who need it- no matter what.  I pursue
that objective with relentless determination, and
curse myself severely when it isn't reached.
That's not a result of me being some kind of
warmonger, but rather a function of how I try to
do all things, whether it's washing the car or
fixing a dinner.  I bet you wouldn't be any
different if you had elected to wear the uniform.
 But with one quick line you dismissed everything
that makes a person like me tick.

Think about it...  If a war happens, who is going
to be the first to go?  The first to have to
leave their family?  The first to "wake up dead?"
 Do you think I find that appealing?  Absolutely
not! But you know, SOMEBODY has to be willing to
do it, and where is it written that it shouldn't
be me?  Yeah we live in a day and an age where
everybody really could say "Screw that!", but
then where would we be?  Plus it's not my style
to let "the other guy" shoulder all the load.

I'm hoping you can see that I'm not condemning
nor attacking you, but am instead trying to make
you understand.  And it's not just you, for there
might be some other people "out there" who have
the same mistaken notions about people in
uniform. Please let me know what you think, as I
am very interested in hearing whatever it is you
have to say.  Later...

Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR
"The Happy Hooligan"

P.S.  The "Your tax dollars at work" line was
intended to be ambiguous.  The goal was to
provoke those who don't support the effort (make
your voices heard!) and please those who do.
Geez, I get so tired of having to explain myself
so much of the time!  Nevertheless, my stand on
the matter will remain a secret.



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