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klr650-digest          Monday, April 19 1999          Volume 02 : Number 295




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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:18:55 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR  Waving

>Jeff you gotta be kidding right?  Most wingers will wave your
arm off if your
>not careful, always got 10% of course but they can't all be in
WA with you
>:-).  Course my SO may forget at times (she is the designated
waver) but I
>usually cover for her.  Now trying to gettem to ride past a
Dairy Queen
>without stopping, well that could be dangerous.  Enjoy the ride.
>
>Don
>97 Wing

No, unfortunately I'm not kidding.  I have gotten the same
contemptious looks from "wingers" as I have from H-D's, followed
by the absense of a wave.  It happens all the time, so I'd say
its statistically significant.

Jeff
>95 KLR 650
>

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:34:27 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Nighthawk 250 Mirrors on KLR NKLR

>I've used the Bikemaster Enduro mirrors for a year now on my
93KLR. I
>would recommend them.
>They do vibrate some on the road but its nice to be able to fold
them
>out of the way
>on the trail, that is if you remember..I have to replace the
left one,
>I see 6 images now because it's in pieces. It didn't like
bouncing on
>the rocks on the Ironman track just up the hill from Vantage Wa.
>Bill Eberhart
>
Did you go see the statues of the wild mustangs overlooking the
Gorge?  I haven't ridden there yet.

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:45:16 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Helmet Art   NKLR

Cartman from Southpark ;^)

Arne

- -----Original Message-----
From: bob kaub <[e-mail]>
To: KLR Mailing List <[e-mail]>
Date: April 18, 1999 12:21 PM
Subject: (klr650) Helmet Art NKLR


>Now that I have another shiny white helmet, it cries out for some
>personalization.
>I have an American eagle on my other Shoei so that if I get captured by the
>hell's angels maybe they will just kill me quickly.
>What's cool right now?
>Thanks.
>

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:48:04 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain cleaning  and bearing grease

>I've got the back wheel off to change out the tire (about 4200mi
on the
>original Dunlop)... I'm going to the IRC (since I got a deal on
it) but wish
>I was putting on the Gripsters. Just searched the archives for
chain
>cleaning techniques for an o-ring chain...
>1.  Archives:  "wd-40", "simple green", "grunge buster"
>     Manual:  keronsine or diesel fuel
>My question:  How about soap and water with a good rinse
followed by a
>cleaner (suggestions welcome)?
>

Depending upon what you've been using to lube the chain, I
seriously doubt that soap alone will cut the grease and get the
sticky stuff off.  I'd try the simple green, or maybe some citrus
based solvent.  Both are biodegradable, and won't harm the
o-rings.  If you're not already using it, switch to chain wax for
lube in the future, as it requires far less cleaning.  You can
try chain cleaning solvent for bicycles, its citrus based
usually.  A nylon bristle brush is a necessary tool too.

>2.  As long as I've got the wheel off, I thought I'd grease up
the bearings,
>any for  good grease or is this even necessary at 4200mi?
>

I would use a good kerosene solvent, like maybe white gas,
Coleman fuel, or even gasoline to soak and clean those bearings
out.  It might not be necessary, but I really think that the
factory packing grease is useless.  Make sure that you use a good
quality Moly type grease that isn't the long fiber type.  Pack
them bearings well.  I can't remember, but I think that I used
boat trailer wheel bearing grease on mine, since its waterproof.
I also don't recall how the stock bearings look, but they might
have a seal on one or both sides.  These are easily popped off
for repacking.  Don't forget the bearings on the sprocket
assembly.  I hope you have a good snap ring pliers.

It might be a job guaranteed to make you mean after, but it's
well worth it.

Jeff----What about your front wheel?

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:49:51 -0700
From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Helmet Art   NKLR

>Cartman from Southpark ;^)
>
>Arne
>


No, Cartman's mom.

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:56:28 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NLKR SWEDISH DP bike

Real deal man.  I found this site a couple of months back.  For some reason
I thought everyone knew about them.  I did attempt to e-mail them for more
info (such as when will my local dealer have my bike ready?) but didn't get
a reply.  If you find out anymore, let me know.

Arne - who thinks he would find this a better fit than the DS350...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Vik Banerjee <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: April 18, 1999 7:39 PM
Subject: (klr650) NLKR SWEDISH DP bike


>Have a look at these bikes - either this is a late April fool's gag or
>somebody has been listening:
>
>http://www.highlandmotors.com/Pages/bikes.htm
>
>Cheers,
>
>Vik
>
>

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:01:21 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) a ride

When I recieve the message, the font is goofy, but it doesn't leave any kind
of disaster in its wake.  The funny thing is, now that I'm replying to a
goofy looking message, the text in my reply window looks normal.  We'll see
what it looks like after I post it.

Arne

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff & Lisa Walker <[e-mail]>
To: Tobin Lampson <[e-mail]>; Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>;
lists <[e-mail]>
Date: April 18, 1999 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) a ride


>I wish the collective could figure out why your messages change
>the fonts of all my mail folders, or messages replied to your
>messages.  Are you using a PC or a Mac?  Do you have any special
>"aftermarket" fonts installed on your machine, what true type
>font are you using for your mail?  It can be pretty annoying,
>because I have to exit my mail server to correct the problem each
>time one of your messages come up.
>
>Jeff
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tobin Lampson <[e-mail]>
>To: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>; lists
><[e-mail]>
>Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 10:27 PM
>Subject: (klr650) a ride
>
>
>>Howdy,
>>
>> Reading the list is kinda like reading the trail. You're out on
>a ride,
>>then you're confronted with something you didn't expect, didn't
>plan
>>for, and probably wish wasn't there. You read it, negotiate
>through
>>the rough or, maybe go around the tricky part. Keep up the good
>stuff
>>all! Didn't know the Borg were so skilled---they even have a
>koshare
>>called the 'happy hooligan' or something like that.
>>
>> Tobin'Slide'Lampson
>>
>

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:04:37 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) a ride

O.K., I've just recieved my own message.  It comes back with goofy font.
Interesting.

Arne

- -----Original Message-----
From: Arne Larsen <[e-mail]>
To: Jeff & Lisa Walker <[e-mail]>; Tobin Lampson
<[e-mail]>; Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>; lists
<[e-mail]>
Date: April 18, 1999 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) a ride


>When I recieve the message, the font is goofy, but it doesn't leave any
kind
>of disaster in its wake.  The funny thing is, now that I'm replying to a
>goofy looking message, the text in my reply window looks normal.  We'll see
>what it looks like after I post it.
>
>Arne

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:54:20 -0400
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Balancer Chain Inspection

    Pulled an engine side cover off of my '96 yesterday, the first time the
engine proper has ever been opened in 33,00 miles (aside from valve
adjustments). The objective: in inspect the counterbalancer mechanisim and
see if anything was about to fail.


    It was relativly easy to drop the Moose bash plate and pull the shift
lever, then the cover. More problematic weas removeal of the flywheel,
which resisted the efforts of a standard sterring wheel puller. I finaly
borrowed the proper Kawasaki tool from a motorcycle mechanic friend (the
thread is apprarently  22x1.25mm, which corresponds with certain Suzuki axl
threads, I am told)
which turned an unsucsessful one-hour grunt-fest into a fifteen second breeze.


    Which revealed the balancer system in question...I found I still had about
1/3 of the adjustmebnt range remaining in the chain tentioner and that the
eccentric that the adjustment bolt locks down was cocked at an odd angle:
apparently I had run the screw out too far at some point in the past. From
now on, I will just barely loosen it. The gear mounted on the crankshaft
that powers the whole system showed significant wear but still seemed
servicable. The other gears were just slightly worn. The guides exibited a
measure of wear but all were in good shape, especialy the critical "half
curve" guide in the middle, which typicaly wears first and is a critical
inspection point,  I am told.

    I buttoned it back up and plan to reinispect and perhaps replace the chain
($212) and sprockets and guides ($30 to $115 each) at the 45-50,000 mile
mark. Total parts bill for such an overhaul will run about $600. Ouch.

- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
33,100 miles

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:33:44 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) unsubscribe

Splitters!   >8(
b


John L. Wilson wrote:

> Unsubscribe
>
> --
>
> ===========================================================
> John L. Wilson       '95 KLR 650         '96 R1100RT         STOC #090
> [e-mail]     HSTA #5817    IBMWR   BMWMOA   Tulsa, OK
> ===========================================================

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:47:16 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR  Web ring mania

Fix that thing!
It can be as much fun as riding it!
Heck, I like fixing mine more than riding, really!
Unfortunately it ran like a top all weekend, maybe just a tad lean....
I think I'll have to work on it some more tomorrow!  ;-)

(If it doesn't need fixing, order up some Hink aftermarket goodies...)

beez  {(hooked on punctuation)}/.:


Sarah Barwig wrote:

> Well, I would if my KLR wasn't making this weird rattling noise.

snip

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:55:07 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) WARNING!  RaTbiKe  Disease   NKLR

>   A couple  things to remember is that there are resources that can help
> you
>  prevent this from happening to your bike.  One resource is your local
> Kawasaki
>  dealer. One other would be Fred Hink, whose knowledge, compassion, training
> and occupation uniquely place him as  a defender of the integrity of our
> mighty
>  KLR's.
>
> eric

  Eric, I'm laughing my @$$ off!  Thanks!
Remember, there's a fine line involved too:
Hey these empty milk jugs look a treat for touring storage! :)
b

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:56:04 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) WARNING!  RaTbiKe  Disease   NKLR

Arne Larsen wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: e. rhoads <[e-mail]>
> To: klr list <[e-mail]>
> Date: April 16, 1999 10:17 PM
> Subject: (klr650) WARNING! RaTbiKe Disease NKLR
>
> >Folks, be warned, don't let this happen to your bike.
> >
> the other is....uhh, god knows what
> >it used to be.
> >
> > http://www.ratbike.org/photos/y20yamxs.jpg
>
> I think it's a Honda - looking at the wheels and the engine...
>
> ouch,
>
> Arne

  That ain't no Honda!  And I can't stop laughing!  :) :) :)
:b

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:58:27 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Pumpkin heads and helmets!

I think you have discovered what it has taken me years to work out.
We don't have Shoei shaped helmets.  They actually cause me pain!
I'm shopping for a nice Arai.
Beez


Alan Henderson wrote:

> Let's talk helmets!
>   I am having trouble finding a full face helmet to buy. I have tried on
> about everything I can get my hands on and still can't find what I need.
> The closest I have come is a Shoei RFR, I can get the XL on but the XXL
> probably fits better. My nose sits over the top of the chin bar but doesn't
> touch either the bar or the face shield. The problem is that my face is
> very close to the chin bar. Close enough I can touch the inside with my
> lips without even trying hard and this is at a stand still not with the
> wind pressure forcing it back. I tried on a Duotech in XXL and it was about
> the same way but I don't really feel that the chin bar would offer much
> protection in a crash as the lining foam is just soft foam that wouldn't
> crush to absorb energy.  I can get the largest HJC on but can't get it off
> without ripping off my nose and it didn't really fit to well anyway. I
> can't even get the largest Bieffie on because the chin bar hits the bridge
> of my nose.  I tried on the largest Nolan but it is to short front to back
> and I couldn't even get the chin bar to latch. My face got in the way.  I
> like the idea of the Duotech-Sycrotech, Nolan flip up chin bar as all my
> glasses have cable ear pieces which kind of rules out conventional full
> face unless I buy new glasses. Which I may have to get what I want. I tried
> on the 700 series Shoei but the venting on the chin bar is different and
> rubbed on my nose.  My old helmet is a very old open faced Bell RT 7 3\4
> made back when Bell still made number sized helmets, early seventies. Any
> body have any ideas?
>   I will take this Not KLR after this post but want to reach the widest
> audience first.
>
> Alan Henderson, Iowa, A13, 360lbs, 6ft 3, 7 3\4 - 7 7\8 ------- yes my head
> was this big before I gained weight.

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:10:46 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Religion & Motorcycles (NKLR)

Alex Jomarron wrote:

> Ummm, so when I put oil in my bike, should I use the sight glass as a
> point of reference?????

Sure, if it's anywhere in the window it's low.
:)

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:23:46 -0700
From: Christopher J Beasley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update

LindaT wrote:

> I drained the tank, fuel line and the carb and put in some nice new gas.
> What came out didn't look bad.  The fuel line has a clear, inline filter so
> I could see the gas going through it.  While poking around I noticed that
> the hose clamp sorta thingy that holds the carb to the engine was broken.  I
> fixed it.  The air filter I bought was too big.  I think they sold me one
> for a 650, but it looks like I can just cut it down to fit.  The old one
> doesn't look bad, so back in it goes.
>

Well, I think you should take back the 650 filter.  While you're there, buy acan
of K&N filter cleaner, and another of filter oil.  Follow the instructions to
clean and re-oil your filter, then put it back in.  Those foam types are
reusable
for a while.

> I kicked that puppy a zillion times and this time it coughed and started -
> for two minutes.  I kicked it some more and it started again - for less than
> two minutes.  I continued to kick and got sputters, but no start.  I pulled
> the plug and it looked sooty.  I cleaned it off and re-installed it.  I
> tried the starter fluid, but by then I had run the battery down, so now the
> battery is charging and it looks like I need to get the carb loose and
> investigate.
>
> Any tips on getting it off??  It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on
> and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible.

First of all, make sure things are pretty clean around where you will be
working.Both the bike, and the place you are going to work on the carb should be
somewhat
clean.  You CAN wiggle the carb out of a 650 without too much trouble or you can

just loosen the clamps, take the cables off and turn it 90 degrees around the
axis of airflow.  Dunno about the 250.  On the 650, the first time I wiggled it
out I put
a small tear in the carb-head boot.  The second time I did it, I used a qtip
with vaseline to
grease the boot first.

This will allow you to disassemble the bottom of the carb remove
the floats, float needle, and jets.  If you're lucky, and you spray carb cleaner
through
all the passages, and the jets, put everything back together.  Did I mention
keep it
clean?  It might work.  If you want to be sure though, take the carb out and
soak it.
Cheers!

>
>
> Thanks to all who gave me great suggestions.  You were right.  It sure
> looks/sounds like a fuel problem.
>

Oh, I forgot, never speak too soon, or, failing that, don't let the bike
hear.Beez ( the run-on paragraph man )


> LindaT.
> 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...)
> 86 KLR250 Klarabelle
> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/

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