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klr650-digest        Saturday, March 18 2000        Volume 02 : Number 1600



Fwd: Re: (klr650) 50/50 tire choices
Re: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)
Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights
Re: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage
Re: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage
(klr650) Long Haul Luggage
Re: (klr650) GPS Info
(klr650) Sproket Question
(klr650) Moab Info
Re: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage
Re: (klr650) seeking mechanical advice for "around-the-world" KLR

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:19:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Tumu Rock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: (klr650) 50/50 tire choices

>
>  > Any advice/experiences would be appreciated.  Remember..."off-list" is
preferred so as not to annoy those not needing tire advice.  LOL
>
>  Gee, I don't know about anyone else but  I love hearing tire advice....
>
>  Tom Meagher

Me too...hell, if it says "tire" in the subject line and you don't want to
read about tires it's pretty easy to skip it and delete, no?

dat brooklyn bum





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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:41:02 -0800
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)


> Subject: Re: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)
>
>
> I will be sipping an ice cold Pepsi with Ranger Alyssa in her air
> conditioned truck while Ranger Rick issues you all speeding tickets for
> exceeding the posted 15 mph speed limit around the WR.
>
> Fred    not kidding!
> _______________________
>
> 15MPH??, I yi yi, thats no good.  I had no idea.  Are a lot of trails on
> this speed limit? thks
> carl.
> _______________________
>
> The only time we touched 15mph last year was when we were taking off or
> coming to a stop.  Didn't see any posted speed limit signs.  We even
stopped
> to say hi to Ranger Alyssa and her compadre - who saw us coming and didn't
> mention a speed limit.
>
> Is this something new this year?

The speed limit is posted as you enter Canyonlands NP from the Potash Rd.
and on the Mineral Bottom side.  These have been there for as long as I can
remember.  Just another reason to "stop and smell the roses."

Fred


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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 00:29:15 +1100
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights

Steve Anderson wrote:
[...]
> Am I correct in presuming that the KLR is an alternator system?

Yes, but the alternator runs permanent magnets. No slip rings, no
fuss.
Whatever alternator output the bike doesn't need goes back to earth
via the regulator.

> Has anyone
> measured the "+12v" voltage with the headlight on and with it off?  If it
> goes up above 15 or so volts, that would indicate a fairly lousy voltage
> regulator on the bike.

The alternator max output spec is at 14V so I guess that is where
the regulator tries to sit at.
I've never bothered to measure the volts on my bike, it all works
too well to tamper with, and I've got a light switch and I don't
run with lights much at all during the day.

Mister_T


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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:40:17 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage

Go here John, Tim guarantees his equipment and it is 1/2 the price of anyone
else:

http://members.tripod.com/happytrail/aluminum.htm

Oh his page you can read the review I did last year.

Kurt Simpson
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Laybolt, John" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:17 PM
Subject: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage


> Hi,
>
> I'm new to this list, I hope this works alright.  I'm looking at a KLR650
> for a trip to Alaska and South America over the next year leaving mid-June
> for Alaska.  I suspect I will need a half decent set of hard panniers(SP?)
> but from my web browsing I am quite suprised by the cost of them.  Can
> anyone reccomend an economical set that will be functional, or perhaps
> someone is looking to sell a set?  I don't think I need a huge set, I try
to
> travel quite light.  Something not too overwhelming.  I am in Southern
> Ontario at the moment.  I have a set of soft bags for my Bandit but I
think
> they would be too small and leaky to use for a long trip.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> John
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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:20:37 -0800
From: "Robert Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage

    John, sounds like a great trip.  You should check out Tim Bernard's
"Happy trails" hard luggage.  Tim's products are first rate and he is a
great guy to boot, a real straight shooter, he's like family on this list.
He makes fine hard luggage and excellent mounting racks very reasonably
priced,
http://www.happy-trail.com
    Stick around and you will find out that we have numerous avenues to
equip your expedition, and perhaps lighten your bank account.

http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html
http://www.touratech.de/
http://www.cycoactive.com/
http://www.dualsport.org/dualstar/index.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/ericjazz/
http://www.ridewest.com/tourtrek.html
https://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store
http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/index.html
http://www.aloop.com/
http://www.orgear.com/enter/enter.htm
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/Links.htm
http://www.msrcorp.com/
http://www.photonlight.com/
http://www.rei.com/
http://www.gpsy.com/gpsinfo/index.html
http://nalgene-outdoor.com/
http://www.pelican.com/
http://soundradio.vservers.com/listrad.html
http://www.bajadesigns.com/
http://www.northernmountain.com/links.html
http://www.redlinegear.com/
http://www.wwf.com/splash/


    That ought to keep you busy the rest of the afternoon.

Morgan, just trying to help the GNP where ever I can




- ----- Original Message -----
From: Laybolt, John <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage


> Hi,
>
> I'm new to this list, I hope this works alright.  I'm looking at a KLR650
> for a trip to Alaska and South America over the next year leaving mid-June
> for Alaska.  I suspect I will need a half decent set of hard panniers(SP?)
> but from my web browsing I am quite suprised by the cost of them.  Can
> anyone reccomend an economical set that will be functional, or perhaps
> someone is looking to sell a set?  I don't think I need a huge set, I try
to
> travel quite light.  Something not too overwhelming.  I am in Southern
> Ontario at the moment.  I have a set of soft bags for my Bandit but I
think
> they would be too small and leaky to use for a long trip.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> John
>
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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:02:27 EST
From: "Di or Eddie C" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage

>I suspect I will need a half decent set of hard panniers(SP?)
>but from my web browsing I am quite suprised by the cost of them.

John,

I don't know how worried you are about aesthetics, but you might consider a
run up to Zdeno's Cycle Salvage in Waterloo (on the south side of HWY 7,
east out of K/W) and see what he has.  He usually has a few sets of bags
from mid-eighties bikes like silver wings and such.

The guy (Al) runs the place with his wife, and about 5 or 6 mechanics.
He's one of the cheaper places around for tires (next to Parker Bro's in
Etobikoke) his yard is really quite large, and he doesn't mind people
wandering around the yard.

Saturdays are really busy there though.

Eddie - Burlington
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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:18:57 -0600
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) GPS Info

> new models coming out and do not seem to compare the newest models.  I am
> looking mostly at the Garmin GPS III plus and the Streetpilot.  Price
> matters, but most important is dependability, map availability and ease of
> use.  I note many KLR riders are using GPS's and would like their
> recommendations and ideas on GPS's, mounts and accessories.  They have
been
> there.  I have been studying specs etc. on the < www.aerostich.com > and <
> www.cycoactive.com > web sites.
>
> Lee

Lee,
I have a Garmin eMap, and recommend it highly.  Since it's just a small one
piece "brick" body, I just put a couple of strips of 1" velcro under it, and
fabbed a small handlebar platform with matching velcro.  presto.  It's stuck
on ferociously through anything.

I guess the problem with the GPS III style is the antenna requires support
in the high vibration/shock dual-sport environment.  Not so with the eMap.
Unfortunately it's not waterproof as delivered.  Sigh.  Cycoactive might be
able to help with this aspect of it, as they do ruggedization as well as
distribution.

Now if there was just some way to carry the CDROM around with you so you
could auto-load the super-detailed maps on the road, it would be perfect.
Maybe a guy could stop at town libraries and use their PC or something?

Tom Meagher
Houston TX








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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:41:55 -0500
From: Michael Kovaliv <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Sproket Question

This is probably dumb but....

The stock KLR has a 15 tooth front sproket right? (I can't get to mine right
now to see)

A 16 tooth would make rpms lower and is better for highway?

A 14 tooth would make rpms higher and better for dirt?


Do I have this correct or backwards?


Thanks,  I'm riding 2700 Klms from Windsor(Detroit) to Moab and would like
the lower rpms for the highway riding.


Thanks,

Michael A12


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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:50:05 -0500
From: Michael Kovaliv <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Moab Info

This year will be my first trip to Moab and my first long trip on my KLR.
As a new traveler on the KLR I think it would be great to see a Web Page
that had a detailed list of things to bring (for both me and the KLR),
things to plan for and things to know in case of breakdown or emergency on
the way to Moab.  If a site like this does exist can someone point me to it,
if not, I would be happy to take everyone's info and suggestions and create
a site with this kind of content.

Michael A12


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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:34:43 -0600
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Long Haul Luggage

> Ontario at the moment.  I have a set of soft bags for my Bandit but I
think
> they would be too small and leaky to use for a long trip.

John,
I used a pair of Happy Trails Aluminum boxes on my Houston-Inuvik trip last
summer, and they really are first rate.  Highly recommended.

I'm since leaning away from big hard boxes however, as convenient as they
are, because they compromise the bike so badly in nasty terrain.  I just
about tore my foot off on the little buggers many times.  I recently bonked
one on a stump and tore it off.  I've since repaired it, but it emphasized
the difficulties.  Now I mainly use them around town to haul groceries.

For weekend and day trips I'm now using an old pair of plain old smallish
leather saddlebags with NO waterproofing, but I'm not sure they'd work for
an expedition.

Have you seen Scott Lamorte's "Mateel Expedition Case?".  That seems like an
interesting option. http://www.geocities.com/slamorte/

I think I'd like to try those Aerostitch/Ortlieb dry bags on my next long
ride.  The tank panniers are great.

Cheers,
Tom Meagher
Houston TX
A13, 20K







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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:35:41 -0600
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) seeking mechanical advice for "around-the-world" KLR

Hi Bill,
Let me try to clarify some of these deep and thorny issues...  8^)

> Hello Tom,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> You are in Houston - - one of the other trip participants is also in
> Houston, but he had to drop our suddenly last week when he discovered he
had
> cancer; very tough break.  He was going to be on an F650.

Ouch.  I think that would make it almost more imperative to go...

>
> I've been to Inuvik too, though not on the KLR, and not all the way from
the
> lower 48.  I flew to Anchorage and bought a GS Beemer, took it all around,
> including up to Inuvik, then rode it home to Wisconsin.  People ask me how
I
> liked the Alcan, and I say "never been on it!" - - I took that alternate
> route down through BC, what do they call that road again?

The Yellowknife?  Yeah the Alcan was bumper to bumper RV's, both US and CA.
Plus too wide and flat.  Lots of construction/dust.   There are some pretty
bumps and puddles off it though...

>Inuvik was great,
> I took a flight from there up to Tuktoyuktuk (sp?) and out over the ice
pack
> - - very cool.

I'm jealous!  I just rode to Inuvik (in the rain), had a "Caribou Burger"
and turned around.  (Short on time...).

>
> "(p.s. you might want to set your e-mail client to "plain text")"  Hmmm,
> okay, don't know what that means - - what do my outgoing messages (from
> home, not from here at work) look like?

Did you see the recent posts on the list with respect to this issue?  If
not, I can try to work with you on it.

>
> "now carry a mini-DVM, just in case."  This sounds important, so I'll
> display my ignorance.  What is it?

Sorry, "Digital Volt Meter"  also called a DMM for Digital Multi Meter.  It
lets you measure voltage and resistance.  Essential for troubleshooting any
electrical/charging problems, because you can see where the voltage is in
the system (especially if you have a copy of the wiring diagram, which might
be another good piece for the kit).  See
http://members.aol.com/cloudhid/klrwiring.jpg


>
> "Also disabled all the safety switches."  More ignorance - - I only know
> about the infamous sidestand awitch, are ther more?

The neutral and clutch switches make 3.  There's an excellent how-to off the
dualsport.org site.

>
> "Definitely mount the license plate as high as you can get it, just below
> the tail light on the green fender."  Hmmm.  What if my fender is blue?
> (joke)

LOL you wild and crazy!


> "Thinking about it now, I think I would carry a spare carb vacuum
diaphragm,
> and a spare petcock diaphragm too.  These things can leave you alone and
> crying if they go, although I don't hear of a lot of problems with
them..."
> Hmmmm again.  Thought-provoking.  Have you heard of ANY problems with
these,
> or are you just being cautious? (I appreciate it either way.)
>

Yes, I have heard of some problems with these.  One guy (Skip Faulkner)
patched his carb diaphragm with electrical tape to get home.  Somebody also
posted something about their petcock diaphragm.


> The rest of your stuff was duly noted, and much appreciated too - - love
to
> hear more when/as you think of it.

Hmmmm.  How about Skip's petcock super-reserve mod.  I'm planning on doing
that some day.  Way clever.  Let's you drain the right tank lobe without
having to stop and tip the bike upside down.  Its in the archives.

Also, carry some spare vacuum line.  I just replaced mine last weekend when
I took off my Scottoiler.  It was pinched, and kinda leaky.  The symptom was
starvation/surging at prolonged high speed.

>
> Thanks!
> Bill in Madison
>


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