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klr650-digest         Friday, March 17 2000         Volume 02 : Number 1596



RE: (klr650) Outlook help. nklr
Re: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)
(klr650) Wristwatch question (KLR related)
Re: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)
RE: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)
Re: (klr650) Multi Sproket Rear
Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights
Re: (klr650) Wolfman
Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights
(klr650) 50/50 tire choices
(klr650) KLR Stuff FS cheap
Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:35:48 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Outlook help. nklr

Select Tools, Options, Mail Format, Message Format, "Send in this message
format:" click on plain text..

Kurt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Walter
> Lesnowich
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 9:27 AM
> To: Klr650@Lists. Xmission. Com
> Subject: Re: (klr650) Outlook help. nklr
>
>
> I think he may be using Outlook 2000 that comes with Office
> 2000 since his messages reports  < X-Mailer: Internet Mail
> Service (5.5.2650.21) >  I have Outlook Express 5 with the
> latest patches and the version is only 5.00.2919.6600.  I hate
> the way Microsoft changes the location of functions every time
> they come out with a new version.  Just when you think you
> have it all figured out you have to relearn it all over again.
>
> Anybody using Office 2000 that might be able to help?
>
> Walt
>
>
> > If you're actually using Outlook Express, say so, and I'll find
> the option
> > there.
> >
> > ---o&>o---
> > Sarah Barwig
> > [e-mail]
> >
> >
> > > Many thanks for the types to send stuff in plain text but I
> still can't
> > find
> > > the option in my Outlook. Where people say it is it isn't, any
> > suggestions?
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:42:24 -0500
From: "Cassell, Jonathan Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)

> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:47:40 -0800
> From: "billmonahan" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)
> > > If an F650 is like wine and cheese, the KLR is like beer and nachos.
> > That would make my CBR like swigging aged port out of the bottle. ;)
> > Sarah
>
And my R60/2 like having a affair with Brigitte Bardot - in her 60's.

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:46:45 -0500
From: "Cassell, Jonathan Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Wristwatch question (KLR related)

> Watches suck! Ride til you can't, eat when you're hungry,
> sleep when you're tired, f*$# when you can, and smile all the time.
>
> ;~]
>
> dat brooklyn bum

I think we have found the official List philosopher.

    -Spike

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:55:27 -0500
From: Stuart Heaslet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)

At 07:05 PM 3/16/00 -0800, billmonahan wrote:
>> I'll be behind everybody on my winged feminine pad and designer panniers,
>> picking up parts.
>
>Please post a picture of the new Kotex C650.  I am very curious.

Ah, yes, curious Bill.   I've renamed the bike from Thumper to "The Lying
Bastard."  It has a Big Gun, so you may imagine that I'm quivering so much
that I can't hold a camera still.

Fireball

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:03:02 -0800
From: "Weaver, Mark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RE: (klr650) F650PD (nklr)

yikes. good thing ranger rick wasn't looking when we pedaled it. we averaged
8-9 mph, and that included copious rest and lounge stops, plus a couple of
really gruesome climbs. i'm pretty sure we were well over 15mph on the flats
and downhills.
mw

> I will be sipping an ice cold Pepsi with Ranger Alyssa in her air
> conditioned truck while Ranger Rick issues you all speeding
> tickets for
> exceeding the posted 15 mph speed limit around the WR.
>
> Fred    not kidding!

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:42:31 -0800
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Multi Sproket Rear

>The old Vincents had rear wheels with a sprocket on each side.  The rider
>merely had to decide what type of riding he wanted to do and then flip the
>rear well around to accomodate they riding style of the day.   A modern bike
>could do this if tires were not made to go in a specific rotation.  And it
>would be nice if we had quick release rear wheels so that the change could
>take place in 10 min instaead of going thru the current process of removing
>and re installing the rear wheel.  OH, the bike would need to come with a
>center stand!

What it needs is sprocket teeth on the perimeter of dual disks!  Another
problem with what you're suggesting is that you wold need to remove chain
links too.  If you dropped ten teet then you would have to remove, add, (or
adjust for) 5 or 6 chain links.

When you mix old and new sections of chain (ie - stretched and
non-stretched), you get chain whipping and accelerated wear.  I still say
it's far easier to just carry two teeth smaller on the c/s sprocket, which
equals about 6-8 teeth larger on the rear and you only have to adjust for
1/2 link.  C/S sprocket can be changed easily while on the sidestand.

Probably easier for KHI to make a six-speed.....

Tom

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:23:41 -0700
From: "Steve Anderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights

Rick,

On an alternator driven electrical (KLR?), they should be able to maintain
steady voltage with no load at all, including even being without the
battery.  Voltage regulators in an alternator system vary the power into the
field (electronic voltage regulator) or pulse the voltage in  the field
(point type, mechanical voltage regulator).  No power to field, no power out
of alternator.  In magneto bikes (not KLR?), the magnets produce the field,
so there isn't any way to vary the field.  Voltage regulation works by
varying a "load" to the magneto, as an unloaded magneto will produce
whatever voltage needed to break something down (electrically) until some
juice flows.  They can produce thousands of volts before winding insulation,
or some gap arcs.  Sometimes you need a minimum load, many need batteries
etc.


Am I correct in presuming that the KLR is an alternator system?  Has anyone
measured the "+12v" voltage with the headlight on and with it off?  If it
goes up above 15 or so volts, that would indicate a fairly lousy voltage
regulator on the bike.




Steve A





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Steve,      Watch out when you turn the head light off.  Make sure your
battery does not over charge and boil over. I had a DR 600 that  the
headlight turned off and I found that the battery would boil over and did
die sooner. Just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers
Rick.
>Why would you want to turn off a HUGE saftey feature...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> want to be able to turn off headlight,,can I tap into the ground wire
>inside
>> the headlight housing to a remote swtich ????
>
>
>
>Stealth
>
>
>
>When I'm not riding on the highway, and where I'm not the least bit
>concerned that there are other vehicles around.  After all, many of us ride
>a dual sport to go places were a headlight isn't a safety feature at all.
I
>like the option..
>
>My older (pre '80?) bikes had a headlight switch, something I really miss
in
>*newer* bikes.
>
>
>
>Why not interrupt the 12V wire?  I'm just trying to figure out where/how to
>install a switch impervious to the elements.  Who out there has attempted
>this???
>
>
>Steve A
>



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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:41:44 -0800 (PST)
From: John  Lyon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Wolfman

Anton:

I ran into the same problem. I killed two birds with one stone by installing
Tim and Sherry Bernard's radiator/coolant reservoir guards. They provide a
great place to mount your tankbag in the front, while protecting the KLR's
expensive to replace cooling system components. Cheap insurance for 76
bucks.

Your can find them at: http://www.happy-trail.com/

Note: I fabricated a rubber cover out of 3/4" inch radiator hose to protect
the strap and buckle from the high heat on the radiator side.

John


>  Folks,
>           I recently received the Wolfman explorer tank bag and am having
>  problems mounting it specifically in the front. I contacted them and they
>  said there should be two bars that come of the front but I only see one
on
>  the side of the coolant and not the radiator. Has anyone installed one on
>  their bike. Mines a 93. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Many
thanks
>  for the types to send stuff in plain text but I still can't find the
option
>  in my Outlook. Where people say it is it isn't, any suggestions?





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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:51:59 -0800
From: "Seiler, Kevin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights

I wouldn't recommend switching off the lights. As you know, KLR's have a
permanent magnet alternator. The regulator gets rid of extra current by
converting it to heat. The lighting system is an integral part of the
regulation system. If you run at high speeds without a headlight, you'll
most likely burn out your regulator or overcharge your battery due to
not having the load of the lighting system.

I lot of guys I used to ride Hardleys with back in the '80's used to
have this same problem when they switched their headlights. Batteries
would boil, resettable breakers would trip, turn signals and indicator
lights would blow.


Kev

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:38:51 EST
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Subject: (klr650) 50/50 tire choices

The archives are overloaded and it's difficult to plow through all the
e-mails.  SO...how about some "off-list" help here?  Who's had experiences
with the following rear tires that they care to share (good, bad, or
otherwise)?

Dunlop D606
IRC GP-1
Bridgestone ED-8 or 11
Continental TCK-80
Kenda K-270
Cheng Shin C-858

I know the last two are "low-end", but if I can get them on the bike for HALF
something else, AND they are at least reasonable tires...I would consider
them.  I really like the look of the Conti despite it being listed as a 20/80
tire.  The knobs look close enough to put some rubber on the asphalt and not
wear prematurely.

Any advice/experiences would be appreciated.  Remember..."off-list" is
preferred so as not to annoy those not needing tire advice.  LOL

Lamar
A14 (on slicks in 4000 miles)

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:22:23 GMT
From: "Pascal Anctil" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) KLR Stuff FS cheap

Here I go again.
1 Corbin Saddle for KLR 650 VG shape = 110$ US shipping Cont US or Canada
included.
1 Givi E127 Top Case holder for KLR 650  www.givi.it = 40$US shipping Cont
US and Canada included.

Thanks
Pascal

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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:38:00 -0500
From: "Walter Lesnowich" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: switch off lights

> I wouldn't recommend switching off the lights. As you know, KLR's have a
> permanent magnet alternator. The regulator gets rid of extra current by
> converting it to heat. The lighting system is an integral part of the
> regulation system. If you run at high speeds without a headlight, you'll
> most likely burn out your regulator or overcharge your battery due to
> not having the load of the lighting system.
>
> I lot of guys I used to ride Hardleys with back in the '80's used to
> have this same problem when they switched their headlights. Batteries
> would boil, resettable breakers would trip, turn signals and indicator
> lights would blow.
>
>
> Kev
>
>
I have to disagree here.  A KLR is not a Harley.  If you look at
the wiring diagrams in the service manual you will see that all
KLR's (500, 600, 650) have an off switch for the headlight
except for US (including California), Canadian and later Italian
versions.  The 650's do have a 4 watt city light if they have the
off switch but that load should not make a difference.  The 650
supplement only covers to 1995 but I seriously doubt that they
would have degraded the charging system in later models.

If you wanted to blackout all lights then the best place to add a
switch would be at the fuse.  To turn off the headlight only - I
would suggest putting a switch in series with the Red/Yellow
lead going to the headlight.  This way when the switch is off
your headlights will be off in the low beam position but the
high beam position will still work.  Turn the added switch on
and your lights will operate as normal.  Of course the switch
should be rated for the current load.  12v 10a should suffice.

Walt


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