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klr650-digest         Saturday, March 20 1999         Volume 02 : Number 159




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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:11:43 +0000
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Homemade Tank Bags/Luggage

At 12:41 PM 3/20/99 -0600, Kraka wrote:
>Just a thought to share with my KLR conpadres y conmadres,
>
>I will be constructing tank bags (3way) and side luggage
>(3way) by altering some GI Buttpacks. I was able to buy them
>cheap from a Army/Navy Surplus Store. I got six for about ~$30.
>They are "medium" sized and rugged. They will work nicely
>on mybeloved A13.
>
>The buttpacks will require minimal harnessing modifications.
>These mods. will require some nylon belts (same material as
>seat belts) and a little custom sewing.  Total capital
>investment will be about $45. Labour cost will be N.A. cuz
>I will not charge myself labor. ;-)
>
>If anyone is interested in seeing the final results and/or
>finalize designs, I would be willing to share them with you.
>
>The bags are now colored with typical military O.D.
>green. I will be looking into a way to dye them black
>(if possible). Due to the general paranoia of the American
>Public, I do not recommend hitting the road with this
>luggage in its original colour and markings. The afore
>mentioned paranoid masses will think you are a militia kook.
>
>The final result will have two buttpacks draping over the
>sides of the tank with one buttpack sitting between and on
>the seat and gastank (3way-front). The rear will have
>two buttpacks draping over the side plastic (and avoiding
>the tail pipe) with the center buttpack sitting on the
>luggage rack.
>
>I am all ears for your opinions/suggestions.



    Some of my ideas can be seen at:

http://www.scsn.net/users/bullet/tomsmods.htm


    In my case, I used a pair of East German surplus rucksacks for saddlebags
and a pair of small Navy surplus flare cane mounted as permanent latchable
storage.



- -Tom
'96 KLR 650

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:46:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #154

In a message dated 3/19/99 6:05:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-
[e-mail] writes:

> Is it ok for me to put WD40 on the key and use it to lube
>  up the pins?

Probably better to go to the local auto parts and get some graphite or lock
lube. the lock lube is a light carrier with graphite suspended in it. One dose
has lasted for over a year on my bike even riding in the rain.

Gary

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:48:33 -0500
From: "Steamroller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) (klr)- dealer rec. oils

heh heh heh.... Have to look into this when the time comes. Just got the
rear, less then 100 miles ago, so they're not even scuffed all the way yet.
Front is due, probably in about 2000 miles.
Adios, NY Pete
- -----Original Message-----
From: Fred Hink <[e-mail]>
To: Steamroller <[e-mail]>; KLR mailing list
<[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) (klr)- dealer rec. oils


>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steamroller <[e-mail]>
>To: KLR mailing list <[e-mail]>
>Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 9:44 PM
>Subject: (klr650) (klr)- dealer rec. oils
>
>
>I actually ride
>>OFF-ROAD! Alot of high RPM, and clutch slipping going on.
><snip>
>I'm actually
>>thinking of going "full-knobby" on my tires since the street oriented
tires
>>just don't cut it.
>
>
>Sounds like you are ready for some Pirelli MT21s on the rear and a Dunlop
>K139 on the front.  This is my tire combination of choice for a DOT knob
>set-up.  Works great and lasts long.  Kinda like me on a good day.  ;<)
>
>Fred
>
>

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:43:02 -0700
From: "Vik Banerjee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR Electric vest problem

I have been using an Aerostich Unobtanium Electric Vest with great results
for the last year.  Its warm and works great.  I installed the vest wiring
on my GS500 (direct to battery with a 10A fuse) and on that bike it works,
but is much less warm.  I can't figure it out.....the battery is not being
run down when I use the vest and since on both bikes I am wiring straight to
the battery with the supplied wiring I can't figure out why the vest is very
warm on my KLR, but only mildly warm on the GS500.  Maybe its a stupid
mistake, but I can't think of what it is - any ideas?

Cheers,

Vik

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:56:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #157

Several have mentioned going to Alaska this summer (I happen to be going
myself).  FYI, there's a motorcycle club up there that has an interesting web
site.  It's mostly a BMW club (we'll forgive them for that), but last time I
was there, there were lots of non-BMW bikes around.  They don't give a hoot
what you ride.

Check it out.  It has good info for the ride up.
http://www.alaska.net/~dbaldwin.  Also check out the related rally.  Last time
I went (1996), 8 Germans, 3 Swedes, and 1 from El Salvador showed up.  Also
several from CA, TX, PA, ND, FL and Canada.

Ken Reither
Kingwood, TX (Houston), where the riding was great today.

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:17:07 -0500
From: Stuart Heaslet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR  Sacrilege

At 01:24 AM 3/20/99 -0700, Skip Faulkner wrote:
>   No Stuart, she wasn`t referring to you guys ( both genders) as sheep. She
>was referring to what SHE would be if she got a KLR just because I had one.

Well, I've been having a good laugh over the fact that your best friend has
not only obtained a machine that, uh, some of us may lust after (privately,
of course), but that she appears to have total run of the computer station
and your email password.  What is going to be interesting is how Skip
handles all this over time.  Will he get his own F650?  Will he get a
private email address?  Will he need to to one-up the BMW, do a Haycock and
get a Tiger?  There are a whole lotta questions here.

My sheep interpretation stands, btw.  Nobody ever follows just one sheep in
the movies, unless it's your turn...  You're part of the herd, man.     :-)

I'm thinking about sticking cotton balls all over my black Motoport.
 Forgive the bandwidth.

Stuart
KLR A12
Juno Beach, Florida

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:23:57 -0500
From: "Steamroller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650)  POWER

I think I have you all beat. Try this..... Detroit Series 60  6 cylinder
diesel (out of a 1994 Freightliner), coupled to a Fuller Road Ranger 10
speed transmission. 425 ponies developing 1350 lbs of torque.
Now all I have to do is design a sufficient frame and wheel combo.
But first I need to take my medicine, heh heh heh.
" ....they're coming to take me away, haha, they're coming to take me away,
hoho..."
Adios, NY Pete
- -----Original Message-----
From: Skip Faulkner <[e-mail]>
To: KLR650 Page <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) POWER


>
>
>
>>Hello.
>>
>>I recenty bought a 1992 KLR 650, but immediately reckoned it lacked a
>>lot of
>>what makes riding a motorcycle so wonderful, POWER.
>>
>>So I replaced the stock engine with a inline fourcylinder from a ZX-11.
>>A lot of work had to be done to fit the new engine to the KLR frame, but
>>it was worth it.
>>
>>Acceleration and topspeed improved a lot, and highspeed wheelies are so
>>much easier to accomplish.
>>
>>The frame is not made for such a strong engine (150 bhp), but wobbling
>>is a challange to every true rider.
>>
>>Has anyone tried anything like this besides me??
>>
>>Nick
>>
>
>Nick,
>   I did try one engine swap. Wanting power as well as economy, I installed
>a Renault-Moraine horizontally opposed 4 cylinder ( the 6 cylinder require
>to much lengthening of the frame) turbo-diesel in my KLR. There was quite a
>weight change, as it`s
> water-cooled ( 325lbs.) but my range per tank increased to 125 mpg. The
>main problem was that because of the unbelievable torque increase, the
first
>time I tried a wheelie, the rear frame and swingarm twisted to a 45 degree
>angle, which left me with a problem. This was even after a complete frame
>beef-up ( 3x3 square tube moly all around and 4" I-beams for swing arms).
>Besides that, I was burning the soles of my boots off since they had to
rest
>on top of the cylinders ( which put my knees level with the top of the
>tank), but that could be remedied. Engine noise was also a problem.
>   Needless to say, that one didn`t work too well. I`m trying an inline 4
>cyl. turbo diesel out of my Trooper next time.
>
> Skip ( power and economy, always a grasp away)
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:30:37 -0500
From: "Daniel L. Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Golf Clubs

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Hello Friends:
Has anyone tried to make a mount or carry a set of golf clubs on the
KLR-650. I've been just riding with them on my back, but it is a little
unsafe. My local bike shop has a long gun mount for ATV's, but nothing for
my clubs. If you found something that will work, please send me your design.
I'm looking at several ideals using a vertical rack system hanging off the
left side. It would work like a saddle bag with straps to hold the golf bag.

Thanks, Dan
[e-mail]
http://members.visi.net/~dlhill/dantxt.html

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:47:34 -0500
From: Stuart Heaslet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR - Alaska Trip Itinerary

List:

I'm leaving South Florida on or about May 7 for Alaska via Alabama,
Mississippi, Arkansas, and then sort of diagonally northward to Saskatoon
via the Plains.  After that will go direct Dawson Creek, Watson Lake and
indirectly to Fairbanks, then Prudhoe Bay.  I should be in Prudhoe sometime
in early June.

Return is during August and early September from Anchorage via Watson Lake,
Cassiar Hwy, Seattle, Eureka CA, Susanville CA, Reno NV, Moab UT and on to
Florida.

This is the longest motorcycle trip I've ever done, and it will be
interesting to see if the old bod hangs in there.

I've already talked with a couple of people, but if anyone else is near any
of those songlines, let me know.  If it works, I'd be happy to say hello or
meet for a cup of coffee.   Drop me a line via email and I'll reply in kind.

Stuart
KLR A12

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:54:46 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Helge Pedersen in Chicago

- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Jomarron <[e-mail]>
To: Mike Cornett <[e-mail]>; Chuck DeSantis
<[e-mail]>; Al Fedz <[e-mail]>; Bruce Garlow
<[e-mail]>; Mike Kalinosky <[e-mail]>; KLR650 List
<[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 8:52 AM
Subject: (klr650) Helge Pedersen in Chicago


>Greetings Enthusiasts,
>
>I am announcing the confirmation of Helge Pedersen's visit to Chicago
>to present his Multimedia show in support of his book 10 Years on 2
>Wheels.

Alex,

Business has been so good that I have started selling books online.  I have
an online bookstore now.  Click on Helge's book on my web page.

What's next?  Selling pencils on the sidewalk?  Just kidding!!  Business has
been great!

Fred Hink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        Arrowhead Motorsports
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/
              435-259-7356
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:22:18 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Alaska Trip Itinerary

In a message dated 3/20/99 6:46:55 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I'm leaving South Florida on or about May 7 for Alaska via Alabama,
 Mississippi, Arkansas, and then sort of diagonally northward to Saskatoon
 via the Plains.  After that will go direct Dawson Creek, Watson Lake and
 indirectly to Fairbanks, then Prudhoe Bay.  I should be in Prudhoe sometime
 in early June >>
Stuart, there are at least three of us leaving Omaha, NE on August 6 for
prudhoe bay then turning around to Ushuaia, Argentina. Hope to be home by
Christmas after 31,000 miles+/-. frank

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:06:00 +0000
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650)  POWER

At 07:23 PM 3/20/99 -0500, Steamroller wrote:
>I think I have you all beat. Try this..... Detroit Series 60  6 cylinder
>diesel (out of a 1994 Freightliner), coupled to a Fuller Road Ranger 10
>speed transmission. 425 ponies developing 1350 lbs of torque.
>Now all I have to do is design a sufficient frame and wheel combo.
>But first I need to take my medicine, heh heh heh.


    Have you looked into one of those two-stroke turbo-diesels out of a GE
locomotive? I mean, lets get serious here...



- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
(with 600V DC traction motors)

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:29:48 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) I dare you...

I dare you ..go ahead...

Seems like this is the day for wacky posts and I'm still stuck on the oil thing...delete now if
you can't be bothered.

Just changed my oil and for third consecutive time confirmed Eldon's findings. For the
skeptical, I dare you to do the following. Get your bike warm. Drop the oil. Drop the filter.
Put new filter in. Be sure and tip your bike to the left...mine drains a bit more. Now go ahead
and put 2 qts in no problem. Now the fun begins.

2.5 liters equals 2 qts. 19 ounces (this is Eldon's figure, I actually get 20 but use the 19
ounces). So, to follow the factory recommended refill of 2.5 liters you will want to add the
additional 19 ounces. Don't...just add 9 ounces and hold 10 ounces back. Now look at the sight
glass. It will be full. Skeptical. O.K. good.

Now, start the bike...remember you have held back 10 ounces but the sight glass is full. Start
the bike and let it warm for a moment or two. Now, shut it off, pretend you've just come to a
gas station and you want to check your oil. You decide to go to the bathroom, get a soda, eat
some peanuts...all the while letting your oil settle. Now go look at the sight glass. It will
be about 1/4 inch below the top mark. Don't do anything. Now let the bike sit for an hour or
two. Come back. The oil will be at the top of the sight glass..full...right? But what about the
10 ounces you haven't added to bring the amount you've added to the factory recommended 2.5
liters?

So, for those who don't pay any attention to the 2.5 liters but use the sight glass at least
you are being consistent. You are disregarding the factory recommended refill of 2.5 and adding
2.2 instead.

For those who use the 2.5 and then keep it at the sight glass from then on. You are using 10
ounces of oil between oil changes and then keeping it at the 10 ounce low point until your next
oil change.

My bike reaches the sight glass at 1500 miles so it is using about 5 ounces every 750-1000
miles...so, I need to add that amount to stay at the 2.5...

That's it...now, I'll put it to bed.

Kurt

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