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klr650-digest        Wednesday, March 15 2000        Volume 02 : Number 1577



(klr650) South AZ & South NM ride info
Re: (klr650) 16 tooth sproket
Re: (klr650) images: case, left-hand muffler, & supercrapp
Re: (klr650) images: case, left-hand muffler, & supercrapp
Re: (klr650) front fender
Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: (klr650) KLR paranoia
Re: (klr650) front fender
(klr650) Anger management
Re: (klr650) front fender
Re: (klr650) front fender
Re: (klr650) Anger management

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Date: 15 Mar 2000 05:20:57 -0000
From: "Danodemotoman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) South AZ & South NM ride info

 How about ride/route info on the scenic way from Tucson AZ to Deming NM. I want to include Tombstone AZ. Thinking of I-10 to Benson, hwy 80 thru Tommbstone, Bisbee Douglas Apache back to !-10 and on to Deming. I only have 1 1/2 days to get to Deming from Phoenix so could fit a slower more interesting route in. Was going to go into the Coronado Nat'l forest (north, Mt Graham)  but it is still winter that high? So now decided to do the south...old west area.
 Thanks!

  Dan  Graham WA
  COG 2877, AMA 549865, CMA, UMCI
 '93 KLX650R Baja d/s kit  'Dirt Boss'
 '00 KLR650   'Urban Assault Bike'
 '98 Kaw Concours ZG1000   'Grrr'
 '70 Suzuki T500 Titan  'Dayjavoo'
 Yo Ho, Yo Ho, it's a bikers life for me!

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:43:05 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 16 tooth sproket

I have read alot about the 16 tooth sproket, and would just like to know if
everyone changes to the 15 or 14 tooth when you go on the dirt?

Or do you just ride with the 16 all of the time?
________________

I've done both...the KLR is versatile enough to work pretty well in any
case...it just changes the nature of the ride. I think there is something to
be said for running a 14 all the time if you have a heavily loaded bike for
camping or two-up...I ended up liking the 14 or the 16 in preference to the
15...

Kurt


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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:28:06 -0600
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) images: case, left-hand muffler, & supercrapp

You go Scoot, you go!
Great page, very professional!  (high class rodents only need apply).

That case is cool, it fits the KLR quite nicely, a proverbial poetry of
curves and angles that teases the eye.  Oooh ahhhh.... I can see why you'd
want to stick one on.

Hey, I thought that you got your muffler at Carquest (p/n 27617), not
Autozone?  Yours is certainly preferable because of the smaller diameter
inlet and exhaust ports.  I had to use adaptors on mine.

Your stainless flex hose is far superior to the galvanized I used, where did
you get that again?  (fred of the china prairie company?).  I think I've
seen it in JC Whitney.  I want to do mine up more like yours (on the right
side).  I've got muffler envy.

One thing I've noticed on my bike though, is that with a real windshield on,
and with saddlebags on, exhaust siphons back up into the riders personal
space, and is miserable on a long haul.  That is why I added the extension
(the rat's tail) to the rear exhaust pipe.  This was especially necessary
with the tank panniers on.  Give me some fresh air!  This is not unique to
KLR's.  My R100GS was horrible for this, and exhaust gases would actually
travel up my girlfriends butt, up her jacket and into her helmet.  Her hair
would smell like a dynamometer hut, and she would get headaches.  How
romantic.  You probably have enough airflow that it's not a bother, but it's
something to check out.

Hey, I'm sure you will have no problems, because after all, it's only got 1
cylinder and two wheels, what could possibly go wrong? 8^)

Rat On Brother Man!

Tom Meagher
Houston TX





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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:42:36 -0800
From: "r. scott lamorte" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) images: case, left-hand muffler, & supercrapp

>You go Scoot, you go!
>Great page, very professional!  (high class rodents only need apply).

hey, and i got the plastic flex paint today! black rat bike soon!


>That case is cool, it fits the KLR quite nicely, a proverbial poetry of
>curves and angles that teases the eye.  Oooh ahhhh.... I can see why you'd
>want to stick one on.

uh huh. on the other hand, it defeats the romanticism of strapping a
number of small, poorly designed bags and tarp to a number of
insecure location where they will leak and fall off, but still look
very Rat-Tuff(tm).

>Hey, I thought that you got your muffler at Carquest (p/n 27617), not
>Autozone?  Yours is certainly preferable because of the smaller diameter
>inlet and exhaust ports.  I had to use adaptors on mine.

uh, so i did. they changed names recently. that is the part number.
today at carquest i saw another muffler, 4" round, 14" long, but with
larger inlets on both ends. still very very tempting! round!


>Your stainless flex hose is far superior to the galvanized I used, where did
>you get that again?  (fred of the china prairie company?).  I think I've
>seen it in JC Whitney.  I want to do mine up more like yours (on the right
>side).  I've got muffler envy.

fred got it, some catalog. it turns a cool orange after heated use.
1.75" diameter, probably ID.

don't get envious yet... my system keeps making these gawdawful
farts! BANG! goes the backfire. still tracing that problem. got some
muffler goop, probably just sucking air because i haven't finished
the installation yet.


>One thing I've noticed on my bike though, is that with a real windshield on,
>and with saddlebags on, exhaust siphons back up into the riders personal

yuck. have not noticed this yet, but my windshield (tall one) is up
on the fairing. might be i have different airflow. and this mateel
expedition is designed to be an airfoil at high speed, so i expect it
has good airflow.


>Hey, I'm sure you will have no problems, because after all, it's only got 1
>cylinder and two wheels, what could possibly go wrong? 8^)

hahahahahahahahahaha ERK!

>Rat On Brother Man!

heh!


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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:44:24 -0600
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) front fender

Eric,
The KLR's a hard scoot to beat in terms of rider satisfaction, for those who
gravitate towards a vesatile tough ride.  Higly recommended.

I did a write-up on the UFO front fender a few months ago.  You can find it
in the archives by searching on "tom meagher ufo"  It is the posting from
Nov 9.

The UFO has held up fairly well.  On a recent Mexico ride it canted forward
a little and the front edge melted some, but I cut that part off, and it
contributes to the effect I'm striving for.

For most it's basically a fashion statement.  I've got an ulterior motive
because of my parking trailer requiring a low front fender.  The stability
is definitely improved above 250 kph.

Cheers,
Tom Meagher
Houston TX





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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 7:29 AM
Subject: (klr650) front fender


> Pete the Streak wrote:
>
> Lowering and changing to street-type front fender should take care of all
> that.  And all
> these changes are easily reversible.
>
> >>
>
> What's involved in changing to a street type front fender?  I'm thinking
> about buying a KLR, but one of the things I don't like about it is the
moto
> styling, mainly due to the fender.  Otherwise, I like the big gas tank,
> upright riding position, low price, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Daume
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:30:20 PST
From: "James Chan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: (klr650) KLR paranoia

I think Gino would lurvvve the reply of this GS rider... any comments,
anyone?
JC ;)
p.s. going to be riding with 2 GS's this weekend, hmmm... shall I give them
a hard time?

>
Real men are always afraid.  Real fools do not know fear.  Real GS men have
no reason to fear.
>


>At 16:17 13/03/2000 PST, you wrote:
> >be afraid, be very afraid....
> >JC
> >
> >>From: [e-mail]
> >>In a message dated Mon, 13 Mar 2000  5:17:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >>"Robert Hedrick" <[e-mail]> writes:
> >>
> >> > Uh oh, got them bmw boys nervous...
> >> >

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:03:45 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) front fender

From: Carl Sorensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) front fender

And as for the air flow and cooling of the fender and radiator, come on,
what kind of riding are you guys doing here that your engine is burning up
because of this restricted airflow.
rgds
carl.
____________________

I think that would be So-Cal and New Mehico riding... :^\

Cheers,

Arne
____________________

From: Carl Sorensen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) front fender

would that be in the desert, on the paved road, for hours or minutes at a
time??
____________________

Not sure... but one thing I do know - it is hotter than here.

Cheers,

Arne



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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:04:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Tumu Rock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Anger management

So I'm at work, it's 2:30am EST and the local bum comes running in to tell
me a cab just hit my KLR. I go out to investigate and find the cabbie
sitting in his yellow cage. As soon as he realizes I'm not coming over to
give him a fare but because he hit my bike, he's off into the night. Only
damage is a broken rear turn signal but, man, am I pissed (I'm supposed to
be the one breakin' s#@$ on the KLR not some a-hole who didn't see my bike
as he passed it and then proceeded to back into it!). I'm tempted to drive
around the city looking for him but I'm sure it would only serve to get me
in trouble for something he did. I'll probably file a report in the morning
and keep a constant look out for cab #5J80. Oh, just let me see him when
I've got a bag full groceries...hopefully tomatoes and eggs...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!

Point me to the nearest anger management course before I begin hunting
cabbies in the night!

dat brooklyn bum





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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:44:37 +1100
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) front fender

Carl Sorensen wrote:

> Do you really think that the front fender is causing you to be skirtish by semi's and gusts of wind??

Shouldn't be to hard to test the theory.
Take the stock guard off, go for a drive in a car while holding the
guard out the window and see what forces you can feel as the air moves
over the guard at 60mph.
The more inventive among us might be able to figure a way to actually
measure those forces.

Mister_T


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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:26:29 -0500
From: Bill Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) front fender

[e-mail] wrote:

>  After setting up camp that night, I used the tool kit to
> remove the front fender.  Went out onto the same windy roads with the same
> truck traffic ....

You're really lucky that the truckers wanted to 'hang around' to help you with
the second part of your test. :-D

Bill Wright
Hotlanta, GA.
Adventure Tourer - 98 KLR 650 - "Special K" - 35k miles
Sport Tourer - 00 ST1100 - "KeSTrel" - 1.5k miles


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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:48:18 -0800
From: Tobin Lampson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Anger management

Tumu Rock wrote:
>
> So I'm at work, it's 2:30am EST and the local bum comes running in to tell
> me a cab just hit my KLR. I go out to investigate and find the cabbie
> sitting in his yellow cage. As soon as he realizes I'm not coming over to
> give him a fare but because he hit my bike, he's off into the night. Only
> damage is a broken rear turn signal but, man, am I pissed (I'm supposed to
> be the one breakin' s#@$ on the KLR not some a-hole who didn't see my bike
> as he passed it and then proceeded to back into it!). I'm tempted to drive
> around the city looking for him but I'm sure it would only serve to get me
> in trouble for something he did. I'll probably file a report in the morning
> and keep a constant look out for cab #5J80. Oh, just let me see him when
> I've got a bag full groceries...hopefully tomatoes and eggs...
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Point me to the nearest anger management course before I begin hunting
> cabbies in the night!
>
> dat brooklyn bum

Tum-acious-.....you came to the right place....
    Here's what you do. Go back to the scene of the crime. Call the cops.
If #5J80
was the car number, I.D. it. Also that particular hack's car probably
had a distinctive
color scheme. Report this to the police also. Each specific Cab Co. has
a single color
scheme which is approved by the city where the Co. is licensed. A
particular Cab Co.
likely has permits in several places, such as more than one city....AND>
The County.
    If your not satisfied with the pace at which you think the police may
handle the
situation then: Somehow find out the name, location, phone number(s) of
the Cab Co.
Speak only with the owner of the Company. Its the whole companies ass if
they lie so
most owners are honest. If you do this soon enough, and there was a
'drop off' or
'pick-up' right where your bike was...there is likely to be a log of it,
either on
the dispatchers log, or the drivers>>> at the specific time you saw the
cab in your
area. This will likely hang the driver who by law must turn in trip
sheets at the end
of every shift, and who is abliged by law to report any accident(however
small) to police(a requirement of licensure-for driver and Co.).
    Also this may lead to a positive Eye-dentification by either you or the
witness.
In most cities the hacks themselves are licensed and interviewed(with
background checks)
by city and county law enforcement. They keep a close eye on things, and
don't like
it if someone starts breaking the rules.
    On the other hand, since hacks in big cities usually get blown away at
about
the rate of 1-3 a month, I understand most pack heat.....Probably true
if Brooklyn
is what you're talking about......so I wouldn't go makin' any negative
gestures
at the cabbie population in general.
    I, myself have found that the Conga drums work incredibly well. You can
aim
anger right at them and, as a therapeutic tool, they transform it into
music!

                Good Luck.                        Slide

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