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klr650-digest       Tuesday, February 29 2000       Volume 02 : Number 1508



Re: (klr650) spring cleaning
Re: (klr650) Rear rack for KLR650
Re: (klr650) Re: Mileage out of stock Tyres ? (NKLR)
Re: (klr650) spring cleaning
Re: (klr650) Heavy Clutch
Re: (klr650) OIL/ Mobil 1
Re: (klr650) Heavy Clutch
Re: (klr650) Larry Roeseler rear spring
Re: (klr650) OIL dumping
Re: (klr650) High Altitude Operation.
Fw: (klr650) High Altitude Operation.

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:16:22 -0800
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) spring cleaning

>     Is it safe to pull into a carwash and spraywash  my klr while it is
>still hot without hurting anything?........thank  you

It's not the hot motor that you need to worry about.  It's all the wheel
bearings, suspension pivots, and o-ring chain that can be damaged by
super-corrosive soaps injected by the 2500psi pressurewasher.  That
corrosive soap can inject into your spoke nipples, locking them solid.

A hot engine, plunged tank-deep into a cold river while running is a more
dangerous combination of events, and I've done that many, many times, and
the bike lasted OK (for a racebike).

You have nothing to worry about (heatwise) especially when not running.
The cooling capacity of the water that comes out of the nozzle is just a
"spit" compared to a river.  Just keep that sprayer nozzle away from any
bearings or pivots.  If you shoot the radiator be careful to shoot it
straight-on.

Tom

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:20:41 -0800
From: George Basinet <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Rear rack for KLR650

Arne Larsen wrote:

> From: Wanda Mears <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) Rear rack for KLR650
>
> > > CBT Imports toll free number is [phone]
> > > email - [e-mail]
>
> > Arne,
> >
> >     Is this a Canadian or US company?
> >
> > Steve
> > A12
>
> U.S. I believe.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Arne
>

It is the home of Cal BMW in Palo Alto, California

George
Escondido, CA


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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:43:32 -0700
From: "Verle Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Mileage out of stock Tyres ? (NKLR)

From: <[e-mail]>

> Also, when goosing it around a corner, they slide and leave
> real neat looking black marks on the pavement.

Yeah! Hashmarks on the hairpins. Thirty years ago that was the mark the
*real* dirt rider left while getting to the trailhead via pavement. Too bad
I've gotten too old to leave my own mark.... But I'll be looking for yours.

Verle Nelson ([e-mail])
'97 R1100R
'99 KLR650
Cedaredge, CO USA




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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:43:49 -0700
From: "Verle Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) spring cleaning

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'97 R1100R
'99 KLR650
Cedaredge, CO USA

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:44:20 -0700
From: "Verle Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Heavy Clutch

> Other than a hydraulic conversion is there a way to reduce the clutch pull
> force?  Hydraulic conversion is out since my wife repeatedly reminds me of
> how lucky I am to still be alive after that unconsulted purchase.  We
won't
> head in that direction eh?

Buy a rubber ball and squeeze it for 30 min. each evening (with your left
hand). The KLR clutch does not pull that hard but may exercise some new
muscles. (The rubber ball-squeeze worked for my wife when she bought her
first off-pavement motorcycle.)

Verle Nelson ([e-mail])
'97 R1100R
'99 KLR650
Cedaredge, CO USA


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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:46:55 -0700
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) OIL/ Mobil 1

>     Skip.
>  Someone at Mobil is sure stupid, I called there toll free number, And was
>told by a tech that Mobil one never had zink in it,  That was about a year
>ago when thay came out with the Motorcycle oil.....
>
>          Mike
>


Someone sure is. I`ve done three oil analysis tests on the
 Mobil 1 15W50   and 5W50  and the highest concentration of metals ( out of
21 tested for) was zinc, phosphorous, and molybdenum. I also regularly deal
with a Mobil petro. engineer who is the one who recommended I do the tests,
to show that
he was being straight forward with me when I questioned them on how much
phosphorous and zinc was still retained in the SJ Mobil 1.  Alan at Baja
Designs got the same numbers as I did, and with a different analysis
company. I`ve also got three other reports from three other institutions
showing the same thing, and one of them is SAE.
      So you need to call that tech back and tell him to get that comic book
out of his face and get his act together. Tell him he`s got company
engineers faxing oil content documents to researchers, that seem to make him
out as an airhead or a liar. That`s why I won`t talk to any company rep or "
customer service" people on an 800 number when I`m getting my data.

Skip ( The Truth is Out There)


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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:41:37 -0600
From: "Joshua Pillash" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Heavy Clutch

Dash wrote,

>
> I am considering an MSR Raptor, adjustable clutch lever.  I already got a
> new cable and luber.  I haven't spent any time with the cases off yet but
I
> suspect that the clutch plates and springs are stock and are functioning
> properly.  I don't have any problems other than the constant pumping,
> standing, clutching, puckering, praying and swearing on that bit of single
> track has led me to think that an easier to pull clutch would improve my
> confidence and overall ability in the technical stuff.

        I got the Raptor after my first low speed get off.  Was pulling out
of a car wash, rear MT70 squared like butter and did a little 15 mph
hide-side into a nice soft stretch of pavemenet.  Got up.  Looked at my
bike.  No flames.  Looked at me.  Thanked god for my 5.99 Walgreen special
pigskin yard gloves.  Looked at bike.  Took off helmet and thanked the
maker.  Looked at bike.
    It was then that I noticed I had stopped traffic.  Looked at watch.
Looked at bike. Yeup, right on time.  Make this look cool.  Said screw it,
got the lucky little bitch up w/o so much as a dent but had the stock clutch
snapped to the nub.  Muttering I jammed the shifter down-down-up and pushed
it to the side.  Soon after I installed the Raptor shorty which I will say
did not improve on the stock but held on par, but it does allow room for the
big ass nasty aluminum bark busters from Maeir with the cats-butt ugly black
shanks of plastic which are by far the best investment on the bike.  They
really hold the weight of the beast in the dirt, hard pack and pavement.  I
had previously trashed the Acerbis, though while looking sexy as a
euro-trash waif poster girl, they just couldnt handle the load of a
deadfalling half full gas tank.  Lost like 5 mirrors before I figured that
out.
    Anyway, to cut this ramble short, I recommend the Raptors for
sturdiness, but I dont know if they will improve your ability,
there.....it's official.
    And as a bonus, those stupid plastic shanks really provide another
aero-surface....in a nut.  They bust-ass helping with wheelies if you angle
them right.

>>>>>> and a huge increase in "wife gonna kill me" potential.

    If you get her first...then she can't get you.  If she hits you and you
need to talk, let me know.  I have a good recipe for soup.  We can smuggle
bits at a time out to the desert in our airboxes.


     Josh Pillash
    A-13 'lucky'
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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:52:04 -0700
From: "Verle Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Larry Roeseler rear spring

From: "joseph hart" <[e-mail]>
>
> I have lowering links on my A13 and am considering going to
> the Larry Roeseler rear spring in a attempt eliminate or reduce
> the bottoming out (welcome to white rim).

At 170 lbs. you shouldn't need any help around the White Rim on a KLR650
with lowering links, but it does depend on tire size, etc.

I guess this is a good time to post a link to my latest findings:

http://www.gj.net/~whimsy/links.htm


Verle Nelson ([e-mail])
'97 R1100R
'99 KLR650
Cedaredge, CO USA






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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:59:08 -0700
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) OIL dumping

>> >>I dumped the four quarts of Castrol into the toilet last night.
>> >>Thanks.
>> >>Bob Kaub
>> >
>>
>> Where else would he put it?
>
>Skip



>In a container, and take it to a recycler.  They're everywhere nowadays.  I
>am always amazed that there are people who think that something goes down
>the toilet, it just disappears.  Not so.
>
>


Geez you guys!  Do really think we would tell you we were doing that if we
were?  That`s the reason I don`t tell people I throw all my used truck
batteries in my neighbor`s cow pond. He can`t seem to figure why the hay
passes right through them.

Skip

Skip


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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:09:53 -0700
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) High Altitude Operation.

.
.....................................>snip<.................................
...........
  As a cheap fix I was wondering if a water-proof switch to cut
>battery power to the lights might be the sort of solution needed for the
>budget impaired, has anyone tried this?  Feel free to let me know if you
>thinks it's a bad idea, another weak link in the electrics being something
>worth weighing into the situation.
>
>   Josh...just Josh Pillash
>    A-13 'lucky'
>

Josh, I have aircraft circuit breakers on my bike and if power is low, all I
have to do is pull the light breaker, start, and then push them back in.
   I no longer have the starting problem. But when the temps are in the 20`s
and lower, I have noticed a lot better starting when I plug the battery
maintainer in at night. These batteries are very low reserve, and at 30
degrees and below, your battery is only putting out 60% or less when
starting.


Skip


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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:16:31 -0700
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (klr650) High Altitude Operation.

>.....................................>snip<................................
.
>...........
>  As a cheap fix I was wondering if a water-proof switch to cut
>>battery power to the lights might be the sort of solution needed for the
>>budget impaired, has anyone tried this?  Feel free to let me know if you
>>thinks it's a bad idea, another weak link in the electrics being something
>>worth weighing into the situation.
>>
>>   Josh...just Josh Pillash
>>    A-13 'lucky'
>>
>
Josh, I have aircraft circuit breakers on my bike and if power is low, all I
have to do is pull the light breaker, start, and then push them back in.
   I no longer have the starting problem. But when the temps are in the 20`s
and lower, I have noticed a lot better starting when I plug the battery
maintainer in at night. These batteries are very low reserve, and at 30
degrees and below, your battery is only putting out 60% or less when
starting.


Skip



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