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klr650-digest        Saturday, January 8 2000        Volume 02 : Number 1295



Re: (klr650) Looking for advice on my 99 KLR250
Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Belated Holiday Best Wishes
Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR
Re: (klr650) NKLR Harley Davidson et al
Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR
Re: (klr650) NKLR Harley Davidson et al
Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR
(klr650) Diesel KLR?
Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR
Re: (klr650) Diesel KLR?
Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR
(klr650) NKLR DSN

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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:20:02 -0800
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Looking for advice on my 99 KLR250

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Wanda Mears" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Cc: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Looking for advice on my 99 KLR250


> The Video was produced for the USMC by "Hayes Diversified Technologies"

I searched under Hayes Diversified Technologies and found this...

Hayes Diversified Technologies
10844 Suite A1
Hesperia, CA 92345
Project Manager:  Fred Hayes 619.947.3140


Direct Conversion of a Modern Motorcycle Engine to Operate on Diesel/JP8
Fuel Using Conventional C.I. Diesel Technology

The objective of this proposal is to develop a method to convert a modern,
gasoline powered motorcycle engine to operate on JP8/Diesel fuel. The effort
will focus on the use of conventional compression ignition (C.I.) diesel
technology that will facilitate component design that maintains the
integrity of the unit construction of the motorcycle's engine and
transmission and allows integration into an existing motorcycle that meets
the performance and operability of the current M1030 Marine Corps
Motorcycle. The method of conversion must also be cost-effective to retain
the value of the military motorcycle and be a viable alternative to gasoline
powered vehicles in other related markets. Previous studies done by the
Royal Military College of Science, Cranfield University, UK determined that
current C.I. diesel technology can be used to meet established performance
standards. This effort will focus on the cost-effective integration of this
technology into modern motorcycle engine design with minimum impact on size
and weight. It is anticipated that component redesign will include the
cylinder head, piston, crankshaft/connecting rod and crankcase. Design
criteria will include the use of existing components to the maximum extent
practical.





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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:24:46 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Belated Holiday Best Wishes

In a message dated 01/08/2000 3:24:33 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< > no...better still...it'll be Jeff Walker, exams are over!
 >
 > Kurt

 I'm waitin for Beez to get back. >>


Me too.  I need some motorcycle fashion advice. (g)

Gino

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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:29:40 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR

In a message dated 01/08/2000 6:46:08 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  In spite of taking a hiatus from his editorship, Gino's
 reports remain "good as gold" when it comes to industry
 roll-outs...Gino? >>

Information has been trickling in, but very little from my favorite
manufacturer, BMW.  The only thing I've heard from my source there is they
will have a limited edition R1150GS Town and Country model complete with
Hunter Green paint and fake wood siding.  They filled the handle bars and
Tele-lever with lead the bike could weigh more, thus they can charge more for
it.

Gino

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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:32:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Harley Davidson et al

In a message dated 01/08/2000 6:48:22 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< don't you just love it when the devotees walk in to a restaurant with
 their absolutely perfect full leather jackets and chaps without one
 wrinkle? (g)... >>

We had some new friends (yes I have friends) over for New Years dinner. The
husband  found out I rode and was very interested.  We talked about equipment
and I pulled out my dusty, beat up Kilimanjaro jacket to show him what a
*real* motorcycle jacket looks like.  He thought all MC jackets were leather.

Gino

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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:37:35 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR

> <<  In spite of taking a hiatus from his editorship, Gino's
>  reports remain "good as gold" when it comes to industry
>  roll-outs...Gino? >>
>
> Information has been trickling in, but very little from my favorite
> manufacturer, BMW.  The only thing I've heard from my source there is
they
> will have a limited edition R1150GS Town and Country model complete
with
> Hunter Green paint and fake wood siding.  They filled the handle bars
and
> Tele-lever with lead the bike could weigh more, thus they can charge
more for
> it.
>
> Gino


ah yes...the "Woody" model that the GS list is raving about...

Kurt


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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 08:49:02 -0700
From: "Shayne Seefeldt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Harley Davidson et al

Sorry for the confusion. The Harley shop was Harley DAvidson of Southern
Alberta. I meant a comparison between the opulance of their store compared
to Blackfoot Motorsports. Blackfoot sells everymake of bike except Harley.

By the way, Blackfoot has an unbelievable ad in yesterdays Calgary Herald. A
brand new '99 Suzuki DR650 for I believe $5200 cdn. They state the regular
price as $6900 cdn.


Regards,


Shayne Seefeldt
www.telusplanet.net/public/seefeldt/Calgaryjiujitsu.html

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>From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
>To: "klr650" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Harley Davidson et al
>Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2000, 3:32 AM
>

> From: Shayne Seefeldt <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) NKLR Harley Davidson et al
>
>
>> Just returned from the local Harley shop. Went with a friend who is buying
> a
>> Road King Classic. All I can say is "expensive", but I know why. The shop
> is
>> extravagant, absolutely beautiful. If any of you have been to Blackfoot
>> Motosports here in Calgary you'll know what I mean. They don't have very
>> many nice things to say about Japanese bikes, as a matter of fact I was
>> mobbed in an attempt to change my mind and buy a Harley.
>
> I've been to this local Harley shop.  Blackfoot Motorsports in Calgary is
> also the local Kawasaki shop... the local BMW shop... the local Triumph
> shop... the local Suzuki shop... the local Yamaha shop... and even the local
> Honda shop too I think.
>
> I can't see them trashing Japanese bikes when there have got to be at least
> 80 new ones sitting on their show-room floor.  You probably had a salesman
> who wanted the most bang for his buck as the mark-up on the Harley's is
> probably higher than on the Japanese, British, and German bikes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Arne
> KLR650 Listmeister
> Eh 13
>
> www.mac-d.com    MAC-D Homepage
> http://members.dencity.com/candidcamera   My Motorcycle Rides Page
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:04:44 -0800
From: "billmonahan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR

a limited edition R1150GS Town and Country model complete
> with
> > Hunter Green paint and fake wood siding.  They filled the handle bars
> and
> > Tele-lever with lead the bike could weigh more, thus they can charge
> more for
> > it.
> >
> > Gino
>
>
> ah yes...the "Woody" model that the GS list is raving about...
>
Don't knock BMW, they're on to a marketing technique H-D has been using for
quite some time; in fact H-D has not just one but three new models coming
out.
                for African-Americans, the "Black Boy"
                for ladies who wish to cruise in style, the "Boy-Toy", a
specially accessorized Sportster, and
                for people who lose their bikes in parking lots, the "Here
Boy", which comes when you call it.



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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 03:08:32 +1100
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Diesel KLR?

In Subject: "Re: (klr650) Looking for advice on my 99 KLR250",
Fred Hink wrote:
[...]
> I searched under Hayes Diversified Technologies and found this...

Nice one, Fred.

[...]
> It is anticipated that component redesign will include the
> cylinder head, piston, crankshaft/connecting rod and crankcase. Design
> criteria will include the use of existing components to the maximum extent
> practical.

Say what? About the only existing components left would be the clutch
and gear cluster.

Mister_T


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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 08:13:39 -0800
From: "Hirofumi A. Watanabe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR

> About the Y2K+1 KLR, I've hinted at my sources...Hiro?...Hiro,
> you are an honorable man and always the gentleman (frankly your
> association with "the loose cannon" Redondo, has always been confusing
> to me)...the list is clamoring for info on the Y2K+1 KLR can you help
> us? Is it true that the olive green color was the last hurrah for the
> venerable steed?
>
> Kurt


Forgive me Kurt. I was so young and foolish when I first met Redondo.
My record was clean up to that point. I will reiterate my warning to all.
No matter how innocent it seems at the time, never cross an international
border with that satyr. Especially if he asks you to carry some of his gear.

For those waiting on the KLR's replacement...don't. The adoption of the KLR
by the US Marine Corp has postponed Kawasaki's plan to replace it. There
remains a slight hope that KHI will incorporate some of the US Marine
Corp modifications into the 2002 model year.

Against my better judgement, Redondo has arranged an interview with
myself and Fred Hayes of Hayes Diversified this coming week. I will also
ask about the availability of a maintenance video and report back here.
My full report will be in the February issue of Dual Sport News.

Peace to you my friend
Hiro

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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:08:32 -0800
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Diesel KLR?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Palmer" <[e-mail]>
To: "klr650" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:08 AM
Subject: (klr650) Diesel KLR?


> In Subject: "Re: (klr650) Looking for advice on my 99 KLR250",
> Fred Hink wrote:
> [...]
> > I searched under Hayes Diversified Technologies and found this...
>
> Nice one, Fred.
>
> [...]
> > It is anticipated that component redesign will include the
> > cylinder head, piston, crankshaft/connecting rod and crankcase. Design
> > criteria will include the use of existing components to the maximum
extent
> > practical.
>
> Say what? About the only existing components left would be the clutch
> and gear cluster.
>
> Mister_T


Don't you know that for the US tax payer, price is no object.  :<(

Fred


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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:22:13 -0800
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "billmonahan" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR New KLR


>
> a limited edition R1150GS Town and Country model complete
> > with
> > > Hunter Green paint and fake wood siding.  They filled the handle bars
> > and
> > > Tele-lever with lead the bike could weigh more, thus they can charge
> > more for
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Gino
> >
> >
> > ah yes...the "Woody" model that the GS list is raving about...
> >
> Don't knock BMW, they're on to a marketing technique H-D has been using
for
> quite some time; in fact H-D has not just one but three new models coming
> out.
>                 for African-Americans, the "Black Boy"
>                 for ladies who wish to cruise in style, the "Boy-Toy", a
> specially accessorized Sportster, and
>                 for people who lose their bikes in parking lots, the "Here
> Boy", which comes when you call it.


How about the "Coy Boy" for those that are too bashful to be seen in public.
It will turn red when a KLR rides up next to it.

Or the "Atta Boy" for your sons first bike.  It will worship the ground you
walk on then it never calls home.

Then there is the "Boy Scout".  This bike is good for helping old ladies
cross the street.

Fred


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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:11:29 -0600
From: "John Houchins" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR DSN

Did every get their issue before me? Anyway I wanted to compliment Ron and
Kurt
on the new format of DSN. Also thanks to Gino, Robert M., Verle,  Elden,
Robert R.
Arne, Dawn, Hiro and Marco  Good job guys!

John H  Omaha


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