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klr650-digest       Thursday, December 2 1999       Volume 02 : Number 1196



(klr650) Bash Plates
Re: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR
Re: (klr650) Do you like to be on top or bottom?? nklr
Re: NKLR Re: (klr650) Tank size ..OI!... now Snipping
Re: (klr650) Do you like to be on top or bottom?? nklr
RE: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR
RE: (klr650) Rear caliper question
(klr650) RE: klr650-digest V2 #1195
(klr650) Bike, no start...
Re: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR
RE: (klr650) Tank size NKLR ..OI!
(klr650) NKLR Happy holidays!
Re: (klr650) Still Won't Run
Re: (klr650) Rear caliper question
Re: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:08:11 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Bash Plates

Since we're on the subject of bash plates, I thought I'd interject
something.  As some of you know, I have the White Brothers plate.  It is
made of a very stout aluminum.  It is thicker that the Moose and MSR (one in
the same), but does not come up quite as high as these do on the sides.

The FIRST TIME I went off-road with my new plate, I took a hit that snapped
the cheesy little stock bolt and squished the stock mounting point.  I then
proceeded to partially curl the bash plate up under the bike.  A couple
zip-ties later and I made it home fine... Moral of the story?  In matters
such as these, aesthetics are somewhat irrelevant.  Powder coating a bash
plate?  Looks nice sure... if you never ride off road - but then you don't
need the plate anyways.  After I got home I had to pull the plate and
straighten it out on the anvil.  Then I had to have some welding done on it.
No amount of powder coating would have stood up to this.

I have modified my plate by boring a hole to access the oil drain plug, and
to accept a u-bolt in the front.  Aesthetically this was not as pleasing as
the original designers intended - which was to utilize the stock plastic
plate mounting point - but the stock mounting point does little more than
hold the plate in place until that first big hit.

Cheers,

Arne



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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:44:39 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR

- ----- Original Message -----
From: andrew stanigar <[e-mail]>
To: KLR650 <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 6:32 AM
Subject: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights


> "after I finish my special project for my fluids dynamics class, after I
> finish my problems for my materials science, after my take home quiz for
> mechanics of materials, after my homework problems for thermodynamics"
>
> ... and there I was wondering where Jeff learned so much about hanging
> Christmas Lights. Now I know 8^) Thanks for the advice Jeff, and Merry
> Christmas to you and everyone else!
>
> Andrew (how's this for snipping Arne?)

Perfect!  =^)

Arne


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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:42:27 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Do you like to be on top or bottom?? nklr

> Bogdan,
>
> I like it on top.
>
> Stephanie Anne "StAn"

Since I outweigh Bogdan by at least 120 lbs - I'm sure he gets away with
being on top more than I do.  I'm pretty much relegated to the bottom.  I
won't get into my gymastics background...

Cheers,

Arne



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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:25:17 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NKLR Re: (klr650) Tank size ..OI!... now Snipping

From: Mark McCoy <[e-mail]>
Subject: NKLR Re: (klr650) Tank size ..OI!... now Snipping


> Another windows method is to click your cursor at the end of what you
want, then
> scroll down to the end, hold the shift key while you click the end of the
> message and it will highlight everything between the two cursor positions.
>
> And, oh by the way, I added NKLR to the subject line.... :<)
>
> Mark McCoy

I was going to do this except that there are quite a few people on the list
who don't read their NKLR mail - they either just delete it manually, or
they have it automatically routed to the trash.  I figured everyone should
get a read at it the first time.  Good on you though for picking up on that.
=^)

Cheers,

Arne
KLR650 Listmeister
Eh 13



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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:38:38 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Do you like to be on top or bottom?? nklr

From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Do you like to be on top or bottom?? nklr


> Arne (ListMASTER of his domain) & others. When I peruse the list I like to
> read replies on TOP of the original posts. I've already read the first
> message and may want to refer to it, but don't want to read it again. Like
> most of you I don't read every message all the way through; when it's on
top
> I can decide quickly whether to read on or go to the next one.

I remember when Kurt instructed me that posting below the original message
was the way it should be done.  It made sense to me then, so I'm carrying on
the tradition.  If you would rather be on top, hey fill your boots.  No
sweat off my back - there's too much hair for that.  I have to say though
that your memory must be better than mine...  Everytime I read a post that's
above an original message, I find myself perusing down to find out which
topic or idea is being responded to, in order to put things into the context
they should be in.

I was going to do this except that there are quite a few people on the list
who don't read their NKLR mail - they either just delete it manually, or
they have it automatically routed to the trash.  I figured everyone should
get a read at it the firts time.  Good on you though for picking up on that.
=^)

Cheers,

Arne
KLR650 Listmeister (Not yet a MASTER, still an APPRENTICE)



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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:26:58 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR

    Unless it's akin to a secret Masonic handshake I shouldn't be privy
to, can someone tell me what the symbol below after perfect means?? Bogdan

    Perfect!  =^)

    Arne


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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:36:42 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Rear caliper question

    I'm not sure I understand the anatomy as stated in your question. I
and other klristas have experienced the pads compressing against the rotor
after a tire has been changed and not allowing the wheel to move. If memory
serves me right I loosened the piston by pushing it in & out; then
everything was fine. Bogdan

    OK, I'll try restating my question.  While changing rear brake pads,
has
    anyone ever noticed the black plastic-like round thing that sits in
the
    piston moving about freely?  Did it move about, slide out on its
own, or was
    it rock solid and didn't move about at all?

    Thanks,

    Eric "no problem" J
    www.angelfire.com/ga/ericjazz KLR page
    '98 KLR 650 24,000 miles

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:48:14 -0800
From: "Seiler, Kevin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) RE: klr650-digest V2 #1195

> Mavens/Listers
>
> Cleaned my carb and reinstalled it. Fuel comes comes out of the float
> bowl  (so it has gas), and I have spark at the plug. It still will not
> start.  The motor just spins. Any suggestions will be appreciated. My
> original problem was that the bike was idling and then it just speeded
> up a little,  then died.  I hate to take it to the dealer and just
> leave a blank check. I already do that with my BMW moto.
>
> George

Sounds like a compression release device.

Kevin in San Diego
who is studying KLR manuals intently to get familiar with his new bike

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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:56:25 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Bike, no start...

> > Cleaned my carb and reinstalled it. Fuel comes comes out of the float
> > bowl  (so it has gas), and I have spark at the plug. It still will not
> > start.  The motor just spins.

George, I think we can fix this. I would guess it is still not getting fuel.
Did you set the float height? Did you take the carb apart? Did you make sure
not to drop the collar at the end of the main jet? All the jets clean?
Vacuum line tight from the carb to the petcock? How about mounting a plastic
bottle with fuel to the fuel line just to make sure it is not petcock
related?

Fred, are you there?

Kurt FS A12 Salt Lake City


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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:20:10 -0800
From: "Chuck MacKarness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR

Really?
I thought that since you were retired crypto you would know...

|^)
B^)
8^)
=^)
%^)
Heh, heh, heh...
(Tip your head to the left and look at them again)
**************************************************
Rev. Chuck
'99 KLR650
'87 EX500
Thousands of smiles and barely broke in...
HTTP://www.50megs.com/klr650/
:^)>+
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
To: 'Arne Larsen' <[e-mail]>; KLR650 <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR


> Unless it's akin to a secret Masonic handshake I shouldn't be privy
> to, can someone tell me what the symbol below after perfect means?? Bogdan
>
> Perfect!  =^)
>
> Arne
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:13:55 -0700 (MST)
From: Heather Skogerson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Tank size NKLR ..OI!

I can help you out there, as a "veterinarian-in-training", I need all the
practice I can get!
Heather


On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Bogdan Swider wrote:

>     You might seek out a veterinarian to get this problem "fixed".
> Bogdan
>
>
>     I'll seek out "Snipping for Dummies" unless someone can teach an
>     old dog a new trick.....don't even think about vasectomy
> jokes....cosmo
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:45:54 -0700 (MST)
From: Heather Skogerson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR Happy holidays!

Have a great holiday season and wonderful New Year!  This has been most
helpful and entertaining, but I need to get cracking the books if I'm to
be invited back next semester!  I can't keep putzing on the computer
waiting for humorous replies!  Although it makes the time-out between
classes pass rapidly, thanks!  Again, thank you Fred, you've been most
helpful. ( I have to tell you though, working on the KLR is so much
easier than changing the glow plugs and oil in my diesel!)
When I get back from Baja, my brother and I are thinking of putting a web
page together for fun.  Should be an entertaining story and some great
pictures of my bike! ( I try to stay far away from the camera!)  Fred, you
have some mail coming, do with it what you like, that's why I'm signing
off!  Everyone enjoy the holidays!  I feel like I'm going to miss
something!

Take care,
Heather


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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:38:20 -0800
From: "billmonahan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Still Won't Run

I would suggest cranking it  a few times (plenty of times) and then pulling
the plug....you could see if there is a lot of gas (or any gas) on the plug
electrode area (which would be indicative of possible flooding)to make sure
the fuel is reaching the combustion chamber.......and then you could double
check for spark.  After that, it's timing, and of course, air supply, or
compression .  Usually.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Arne Larsen <[e-mail]>
To: KLR Dudes and Dudettes <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Still Won't Run


> From: George Basinet <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) Still Won't Run
>
>
> > Mavens/Listers
> >
> > Cleaned my carb and reinstalled it. Fuel comes comes out of the float
> > bowl  (so it has gas), and I have spark at the plug. It still will not
> > start.  The motor just spins. Any suggestions will be appreciated. My
> > original problem was that the bike was idling and then it just speeded
> > up a little,  then died.  I hate to take it to the dealer and just
> > leave a blank check. I already do that with my BMW moto.
> >
> > George
>
> Besides Mr T's thoughts, what about compression?  Or maybe the kill switch
> is shorted and stuck on...
>
> Arne - nobody stuck a potatoe in your exhaust did they?
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:42:42 -0800
From: "billmonahan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Rear caliper question

I am probably not the only one to speak what should be obvious, but when
changing brake pads, loosen the bleeder valve a tiny bit...it'll let the
piston slide back and forth to where you want it....and though you shouldn't
need to, you can bleed out any air in about two seconds, when you're done
replacing pads.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
To: 'Eric Jasniewicz' <[e-mail]>; KLR Mailing List
<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: (klr650) Rear caliper question


> I'm not sure I understand the anatomy as stated in your question. I
> and other klristas have experienced the pads compressing against the rotor
> after a tire has been changed and not allowing the wheel to move. If
memory
> serves me right I loosened the piston by pushing it in & out; then
> everything was fine. Bogdan
>
> OK, I'll try restating my question.  While changing rear brake pads,
> has
> anyone ever noticed the black plastic-like round thing that sits in
> the
> piston moving about freely?  Did it move about, slide out on its
> own, or was
> it rock solid and didn't move about at all?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric "no problem" J
> www.angelfire.com/ga/ericjazz KLR page
> '98 KLR 650 24,000 miles
>
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>


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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:05:58 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR

From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Jeffs Christmas Lights - NKLR


> Unless it's akin to a secret Masonic handshake I shouldn't be privy
> to, can someone tell me what the symbol below after perfect means?? Bogdan
>
> Perfect!  =^)

Bogdan... I'm "surprised" you didn't know what that was...  8^O
left tilt...

Cheers,

Arne



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