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klr650-digest        Friday, November 26 1999        Volume 02 : Number 1179



Re: (klr650) New to the list.
(klr650) Re: NKLR - low maintenance bike
(klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance
Re: (klr650) wheelies
(klr650) Criutfake NKLR
Re: (klr650) number designators?
Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance
(klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1178
Re: (klr650) The specked spring
Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance
(klr650) Radiator shroud tab
(klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass
Re: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass
Re: (klr650) number designators?
Re: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass
Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:40:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) New to the list.

In a message dated 11/26/99 8:59:00 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< D-P bike (I am old enough to remember
the terms "Dual Purpose", and "Enduro!", and the term "Dual Sport" seems
so funny to me. Sorry).   >>

I went through that a couple years ago.  The term Dual Purpose is all but
lost...  If only drum brakes had been lost with it.  lol

I too am new to this list, and do not actually have a KLR.  I have a KLX650
dual sport.  A tad more off-road oriented than the KLR.

I've had to do the valves on my KLX twice in 4,000 miles.  But it is not
hard, so it only costs about $60 with a local mechanic.  Can't do it at home,
you gotta have replaceable shims to do the adjustment.


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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:05:51 -0500
From: "Ralph E. Hanson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR - low maintenance bike

I deleted the message, so I forget who asked the question, but someone
was asking about a bike to replace an aging CX500.  He looked at the
Concours and the KLR, and he was wanting to avoid having to do much
maintenance on the bike.


Might I be so bold as to suggest a Vulcan 750?  This bike has shaft
drive, cast wheels, and hydraulically adjusted valves.  Other than oil
changes, it has virtually no maintenance requirements.  One of the main
reasons I chose the KLR over the Vulcan was that the Vulcan didn't have
enough leg room for me (I have a 36" inseam).  But it sounds like this
other fine Kawasaki might just meet your needs.


As a side note, I find it interesting that all three bikes I looked at
- -- the KLR, the Concours, and the Vulcan 750 -- were Kawasaki's.  When
I was a younger rider all the bikes I owned and wanted were Hondas.
It's kind of scary how well Big K understands my brain.


Ralph Hanson

1999 KLR 650

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:41:49 -0800
From: "Robert Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance

I have it on good authority that Dawn Rides will be signing autographs at
this weekends Los Angeles International Motorcycle held at the Long Beach
Convention Center.  Boys this could be your chance to meet this enigmatic
beauty.  I'll be there on Saturday. See you there.
Morgan


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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:38:42 -0600
From: juan carlos ibarra <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) wheelies

Saludos compadre Lamar,

I had the same problem. What I did was to reattach the tab to the shroud
with epoxic resins. I shaped the resin like a volcano with the tab at the
"crater". After the resin cured, I deatached the tab again and applied a
permanent plastic bonding agent.

I followed this procedure because the epoxic resin alone will not bond well
enough to the plastic shroud and will eventually break loose again. When I
deattached the tab  , I had a flat surface attached to it with enough
contact area that I could glue both together permanently (so far, anyway).


It has worked fine for me.

Juan

At 20:54 11/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Dropped the KLR riding in the mud over the weekend.  Broke a tab on the back
>of the radiator shroud.  After the clean-up, the first time I broke 60 mph,
>the shroud folded back.  I guess the little bolt that holds the botton of
the
>shroud to the radiator grill is pretty important...  Is there a way to
>reattach the tab to the shroud?  I would HATE to buy a new one.  Besides, it
>would take 9 months for the deler here to get one.  Any suggestions would be
>welcome!
>
>Lamar
>A14 (green)
>
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>for info.
>


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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:08:52 -0600
From: juan carlos ibarra <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Criutfake NKLR

Kurt,

Thanks...I needed that!   Just one question:  will  it be as tasty if I use
mezcal instead of whiskey?

Salud Compadre !

Juan

A8  (Hey, I finally know what the hell this funky numbers are!!!)


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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:23:32 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) number designators?

In a message dated 11/26/99 3:08:05 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> A8  (Hey, I finally know what the hell this funky numbers are!!!)


what is mine 1996=?

Kurt Thomas

AT2      USN
Aircrewman/Aviation Electronics Tech. for the<A
HREF="http://www.sikorsky.com/programs/stallion/dragon.html"> MH-53E</A>
HM-15 NAS Corpus Christi, TX
96 KLR 650
91 CBR1000F  (for sale)

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:25:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance

In a message dated 11/26/99 2:43:44 PM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

>  have it on good authority that Dawn Rides will be signing autographs at
>  this weekends Los Angeles International Motorcycle held at the Long Beach
>  Convention Center.  Boys this could be your chance to meet this enigmatic
>  beauty.  I'll be there on Saturday. See you there.
>  Morgan
>

If you have a camera, could you take a pic and post it?  But then again that
could ruin the mystery.

Kurt Thomas

AT2      USN
Aircrewman/Aviation Electronics Tech. for the<A
HREF="http://www.sikorsky.com/programs/stallion/dragon.html"> MH-53E</A>
HM-15 NAS Corpus Christi, TX
96 KLR 650
91 CBR1000F  (for sale)

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:45:40 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1178

In a message dated 11/26/99 6:22:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> gray specked with white or
>  something like that.....

Got it installed last weekend. Had a 350 mile ride. Will write up a more
comprehensive review when I have time. May take a while as my wife is in the
hospital until at least 12/3. Took two hours to install. Spring is labeled as
500/560 progressive. I discovered that I have been using the rubber bumper as
my suspension. The new spring with no preload (setting #1) allow for 2-1/2 to
3" of sag static. This raised the rear of my bike considerably. I started
with preload set at #1 and damping set at #2. The only load on the bike was
the rider about 300 pounds.  Ride is very much improved. I need to increase
the preload a little and the damping at least one notch. With increased load
like luggage I will probably increase both the damping and the preload two
notches.

A few unexpected results of the change include improved cornering and less
straight line stability (not too bad). This is due to the revised attitude of
the bike in riding trim. My windshield seems shorter by two inches, again due
to the rear suspension not being close to bottom all of the time. The
progressive fork springs work even better than before. The headlight needs to
be reaimed or you wind up looking at your front fender after dark.

For you heavy weights out there this is well worth the cost, around $90 for
the spring and not too difficult ot install.

I will try to respond to ant direct questions as time allows.

Gary B.
A10 "Boat"

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:21:16 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) The specked spring

From: <[e-mail]>

> > gray specked with white or
> >  something like that.....
>
> Got it installed last weekend. Had a 350 mile ride. Will write up a more
> comprehensive review when I have time. May take a while as my wife is in
the
> hospital until at least 12/3. Took two hours to install. Spring is labeled
as
> 500/560 progressive. I discovered that I have been using the rubber bumper
as
> my suspension. The new spring with no preload (setting #1) allow for 2-1/2
to
> 3" of sag static. This raised the rear of my bike considerably.

> For you heavy weights out there this is well worth the cost, around $90
for
> the spring and not too difficult ot install.

I'm one of those heavyweights... Did you have to use some special plastic
spacers to make the spring fit the KLR shock (like is needed with the Panama
spring) or does it fit properly as-is?  How does the cost compare to the
Progressive Panama spring?

Cheers,

Arne




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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:23:17 -0800
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance


> In a message dated 11/26/99 2:43:44 PM Central Standard Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
> >  have it on good authority that Dawn Rides will be signing autographs at
> >  this weekends Los Angeles International Motorcycle held at the Long
Beach
> >  Convention Center.  Boys this could be your chance to meet this
enigmatic
> >  beauty.  I'll be there on Saturday. See you there.
> >  Morgan
> >
>
> If you have a camera, could you take a pic and post it?  But then again
that
> could ruin the mystery.

Hey there's an idea... Have Dawn dress up and pose as one of the umbrella
girls for Morgan to take a picture of...

Cheers,

Arne



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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:05:21 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Radiator shroud tab

Lamar posts:
>Dropped the KLR riding in the mud over the weekend.  Broke a tab on the back
>of the radiator shroud.  After the clean-up, the first time I broke 60 mph,
>the shroud folded back.  I guess the little bolt that holds the botton of
the
>shroud to the radiator grill is pretty important...  Is there a way to
>reattach the tab to the shroud?  I would HATE to buy a new one.  Besides, it
>would take 9 months for the deler here to get one.  Any suggestions would be
>welcome!

Assuming you haven't lost any small parts, you're in luck. I did the exact
same thing trying get my KLR over Mosquito Pass in Colorado. I successfully
reattached  the little tab using J B Weld. JBW is the ultimate general
purpose epoxy.

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:09:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass

A week or so ago, someone on the list mentioned riding over Imogene Pass in
Colorado. I can't find it on any atlas. Where the hell is Imogene Pass?

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:11:26 -0700
From: "Verle Nelson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Whimsy" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 5:09 PM
> Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass
>
>
> > A week or so ago, someone on the list mentioned riding over Imogene Pass
> in
> > Colorado. I can't find it on any atlas. Where the hell is Imogene Pass?
> >
>
> Imogene Pass is a designated 4WD road that goes from Ouray to Telluride. I
> planned to ride it this summer but didn't make it. It's too late now for
> this year. I last rode Imogene Pass thirty years ago on a 650 Triumph. I'm
> curious. Who did ride it? I thought I read all the letters but I don't
> remember anyone riding Imogene pass. Next summer I plan to try riding all
> the San Juan Mountain 4WD passes but some may be too difficult for the KLR
> or me. Imogene Pass, though, is rated "moderate" in my guide book.
>
> Verle Nelson
> KLR650 A13
> Cedaredge, CO USA
>


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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:14:38 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) number designators?

>
> what is mine 1996=?
>
> Kurt Thomas

A10


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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:17:56 -0800
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR: Imogene Pass

>A week or so ago, someone on the list mentioned riding over Imogene Pass in
>Colorado. I can't find it on any atlas. Where the hell is Imogene Pass?

For GPS geeks,  Imogene pass is at N37deg55.905min, W107deg44.099min.  It's
a little over 13000 feet elevation.  It's about 4 miles east of Telluride.

Related GPS story:

I was at the top of a mountain enroute to "Black Bear Pass"  I thought I
*was at Black Bear Pass*.  I asked a rider on an thrashed XR400 "what's the
name of this mountain?"  He said "This is Gable Mountain".  "Hmmmmm" I
thought as I typed "Gable" in on the screen of my GPS.

When we arrived in Telluride a friend asked "What did John say to you?"

"John?" I asked.

He replied "That was John Gable on the XR400, Clark Gable's son".



Tom

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Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:33:09 -0800
From: Fredboe Fartzollotti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR Dawn Rides ...L.A. Motorcycle Show Appearance

I don't know who Dawn Rides is, but I didn't see her at the show today.
My children and I got there at 12:30 and stayed until 3:30.  It was a
lot of fun for all three of us.  I did look at the Vulcan 750, and I
have a neighbor that has one, but I think I will keep my GL500I and get
a D-P bike as I have always wanted one since my Yamaha DT 175 died in an
accident about 18 years ago.

For those of you who are interested, the show sure had a mess O' Harley
Clones, both imported and domestic.  The Moto Guzzis were lovely to look
at too, as I am partial to twins and singles.  I compared the F650,
KLR650, and DR650 (forget the Honda, despite my current mount, I just
don't like the XL650 that much).  The beemer is about 3 grand higher at
list price, but does have a great warranty, liquid cooling, and twin
plug heads.  But is the name worth three thousand bucks?  The KLR is
leading right now, but the DR can be had for  under 5 Gs out the door
(according to a local dealer).  My kids wanted me to "trade up" to a
Valkyrie Interstate (lousy mileage, good looks), or Intruder 1400 (don't
like wire wheels on a street bike) both are Generic Cruisers, but nice
to look at nonetheless.  The KTM Adventurer 640 is neato, but it sure is
tall (I am only 6 feet tall, and it looked too big for me).

I did not get to look around much at the aftermarket stuff, but there
seemed to be plenty.  Again, I'm sorry I did not see Dawn Rides (who is
she?), but then I did not know to look until after I got home from the
show, and picked up my e-mail.  The name sounds kind of funny, like an
"Adult Film" star.  Hmmmm....maybe it's just as well I didn't see her as
I am a Christian and don't need the temptation.  Bikes are enough
temptation for me!   Mr. Morgan, let me know what you find at the show,
and how you liked it.  I live in San Diego, but I don't think I'll go
again tomorrow, as I will more than likely be out a dealership test
riding bikes.

Robert Morgan wrote:
>
> I have it on good authority that Dawn Rides will be signing autographs at
> this weekends Los Angeles International Motorcycle held at the Long Beach
> Convention Center.  Boys this could be your chance to meet this enigmatic
> beauty.  I'll be there on Saturday. See you there.
> Morgan

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