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klr650-digest        Friday, November 12 1999        Volume 02 : Number 1136



(klr650) balancer chain adjust...
RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
RE: (klr650) NKLR Power on tap... was( The oily affa
RE: (klr650) Front Sprocket Torque.
RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
Re: (klr650) NKLR- Soggy in Seattle
Re: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
Re: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
(klr650) Oil leasons nklr
(klr650) nklr Soggy in Seattle
RE: (klr650) Oil leasons nklr
RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question
(klr650) Mr. T...
Re: (klr650) Veterans

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:26:00 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) balancer chain adjust...

 >Question, when doing the balancer chain adjust..is this with the engine
off..warm/cold? With the Concours it is cold at idle is why I ask.
> I guess it is time to buy another service manual. Is there a choice or is
it just the Kaw ofishul one available?

adjust it warm with the engine off...again, only 1 turn out and just snug up
when tightening...

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:28:03 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

    Mobil 1 SJ automotive or Mobil 1 motorcycle?? + Remember the Beemers
have separate tranny oil and dry clutches; the concern, as you know, with
the SJ stuff is that it doesn't have the minerals to lubricate the tranny &
clutch. Anyone know if Mobil 1 15-50 V-Twin is designed to lubricate the
trans/clutch or just the Harley layout which is similar to BMW?? Bogdan
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automotive...its mineral levels were close to anything available...

Kurt

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:29:37 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR Power on tap... was( The oily affa

Was thinking this very thing this morning, commuting on my ZRX.   The extra
power and brakes sure helps when you have to duck and dodge cagers with cell
phones.
_____

I was eyeing a 2000 ZRX in ebony the other night...pretty bike. I was
surprised at the non-aggressive seating...can you put GIVI's on them?

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:03:47 -0500
From: "Scherer, Michael" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Front Sprocket Torque.

As tight as you can get it, then say click.

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:09 PM
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Subject: (klr650) Front Sprocket Torque.


Hello every one.

                  I just changed my front sproket on my 97 KLR to a 16
tooth.  What I am wondering is what the torque spec on the one bolt that
holds the sprocket is?
I just can't find it in the manual.
Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:27:11 GMT
From: "Di or Eddie C" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

My good friend Mark (cc'd on this e-mail) suggests Massey Ferguson Type A-O5
Hypoid lube for your Harley-Ferguson.  Stick to bike lube for any other
machines.

Eddie

>>Mobil 1 SJ automotive or Mobil 1 motorcycle?? + Remember the Beemers
have separate tranny oil and dry clutches; the concern, as you know, with
the SJ stuff is that it doesn't have the minerals to lubricate the tranny &
clutch. Anyone know if Mobil 1 15-50 V-Twin is designed to lubricate the
trans/clutch or just the Harley layout which is similar to BMW?? Bogdan

>Harleys have a dry clutch hooked up to a yard tractor transmision.
Mark
B2
A2

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makes no claim of validity.  Responses do not necessarily reflect the
philosophy of any other list member or the KLR list as a whole.


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:50:07 -0800
From: Tom Myers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Soggy in Seattle

>and the people actually follow
>their dogs around with plastic baggies.  That
>last one really threw me for a loop...  To do
>such a thing back in Missouri would be grounds
>for getting your ass kicked.  I mean really- if
>seeing a turd on a sidewalk is that traumatic-
>well then may heaven help you...

Hi Juan,

Hope you have better luck in Seattle.   Next time, remember that we always
have fantastic weather in Sept/Oct and that it's a "rainy place",
especially in the winter.

Seattle is a major destination; most of the people (including myself) are
from somewhere else.   There's a lot to laugh about in this town, but
pretentiousness - wherever you are, is ALWAYS fair game!  Often new
residents adopt pretentiousness (localism) as an attempt to mask their
origin (at least to the other newbies).  The true locals aren't so
insecure.

Re: seeing people carrying plastic bags of dogshit home is a relief to me.
A turd on the sidewalk is not traumatic, but smelling it mashed into the
carpet in your car is maddening to anyone, possibly even Missourians.  When
I track dogcrap into my car, I'm definitely thinking of "kicking some ass".
It doesn't throw me for a loop at all.  People have been crapping their
dogs "in front of someone elses house" for a very simple reason - they
don't want to track it into their own car. Our "scoop law" is thanks to
those inconsiderate jerks.

It's a little different M.O. than MO, but if everyplace was the same what
fun is that?  I'd recommend Denny's for familiar, they won't laugh it you
ask for a cuppa joe.  Starbucks is the epitome, but remember that the
Starbucks crowd is the newbies.

Tom

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:48:54 -0800
From: "WILLIAM MONAHAN" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

Harleys use a wet clutch, with multiple plates, roughly similar to a
Japanese bike (GoldWings/Valkyries being the exception)....guzzis and
beemers have dry clutches.   FYI
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Subject: RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question


> My good friend Mark (cc'd on this e-mail) suggests Massey Ferguson Type
A-O5
> Hypoid lube for your Harley-Ferguson.  Stick to bike lube for any other
> machines.
>
> Eddie
>
> >>Mobil 1 SJ automotive or Mobil 1 motorcycle?? + Remember the Beemers
> have separate tranny oil and dry clutches; the concern, as you know, with
> the SJ stuff is that it doesn't have the minerals to lubricate the tranny
&
> clutch. Anyone know if Mobil 1 15-50 V-Twin is designed to lubricate the
> trans/clutch or just the Harley layout which is similar to BMW?? Bogdan
>
> >Harleys have a dry clutch hooked up to a yard tractor transmision.
> Mark
> B2
> A2
>
> Disclaimer:  Responses are strictly the opinion of this KLR lister, who
> makes no claim of validity.  Responses do not necessarily reflect the
> philosophy of any other list member or the KLR list as a whole.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:20:00 -0700
From: "Pokluda, Gino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

>>.guzzis and
beemers have dry clutches. <<

Yep, beemer transmissions are much like a box of rocks with a wooden stick.

Gino


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:42:25 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

    Except that a box of rocks and a stick isn't going to need a $700
rebuild at 50k as was the case with the airheads. Bogdan

    Yep, beemer transmissions are much like a box of rocks with a wooden
stick.

    Gino


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:48:42 -0500
From: John Barry <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

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 Except that a box of rocks and a stick isn't going to need a $700
rebuild at 50k as was the case with the airheads. Bogdan

        Yep, beemer transmissions are much like a box of rocks with a
wooden
stick.

        Gino

I have 70K on my 81 twin and it shifts fine, the throw is equivalent to
a 71 VW bus with a worn linkage but that is another story. They are
getting better though, have you ridden the r100s yet, the transmission
is so smooth it almost feels japanese!

Future KLR owner,
JB

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:57:48 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Oil leasons nklr

Thanks Kurt S for bringing it up and Walter R for posting the address. A
great read. So all I did was waste money when I strayed from my old pal
Mobil Uno 15-50 Auto for that young floozy Mobil 1 motorcycle. The listers
that went to Diesel oil also didn't fare well in this account but at least
they didn't spend a lot of $. The good news is that I can go back, SJ or no
SJ. At least until the federal government that's ever vigilant in my behalf
decides to do me yet another favor. I'll repost the address for those that
missed it the first time; http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/oilreport.html
<http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/oilreport.html>   Bogdan

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:15:35 -0800
From: "Mercury"<[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) nklr Soggy in Seattle

Juan wrote:

I don't understand the big hubbub about this
place...  The weather sucks, they don't know what
it is to have a good meal (no soybean burgers for
me, thank you), and the people actually follow
their dogs around with plastic baggies.  That
last one really threw me for a loop...  To do
such a thing back in Missouri would be grounds
for getting your ass kicked.  I mean really- if
seeing a turd on a sidewalk is that traumatic-
well then may heaven help you...

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As a lurker, I've been observing from the sidelines for the last few months.
I don't mind debates, as in the last oil-go-round, but ignorant posts like
the previous are just that... ignorant.

Maybe Juan comes from a part of the world where everyone has dog shit on
their shoes... maybe he lives in an apartement where he doesn't have to worry
about other people's pets shitting on his front lawn... maybe he thinks it's
cool for pet owners to be irresponsible.


Be Real,

Mercury
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:17:36 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Oil leasons nklr

Mobil Uno 15-50 Auto for that young floozy Mobil 1 motorcycle. The listers
that went to Diesel oil also didn't fare well in this account but at least
they didn't spend a lot of $.

I noticed that, FWIW, I hedged my bet and mixed 50% Premium Blue and 50%
Mobil 1 non-SJ...but I'm going back to straight Mobil 1...

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:09:00 -0700
From: "Pokluda, Gino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Not an Oil Level Question

>>I have 70K on my 81 twin and it shifts fine, the throw is equivalent to
a 71 VW bus with a worn linkage but that is another story. They are
getting better though, have you ridden the r100s yet, the transmission
is so smooth it almost feels japanese!<<

I've had 3 BMW's; 2 airheads and 1 oilhead.  Like I said, they shift like a
box of rocks with a wooden stick.

Gino


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:18:53 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Mr. T...

Mr. T, I think your inquiry into the gear ratios is excellent...I just wish
I had the technical know how to dialogue with you on what kind of a project
it would be...The KLR650 needs a sixth gear bad...

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:24:43 -0800
From: "Rev. Chuck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Veterans

I want all the Vets to know:
I personally thank you for your service, without it I could not openly share
my opinion, correct or incorrect, without fear of doing the wrong thing. I
did my time in the 70's before Nam was history, killing babies was the topic
of many stateside and we became losers in the eyes of our non-serving
brothers and sisters.

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Rev. Chuck USN
:^)>+
'99 KLR650
Thousands of miles and barely broke in...
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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:06 PM
Subject: (klr650) Veterans


> Veterans/current military folks - thanks for doing your job.
> Everyone is glad you're there - even if they whine or don't admit it.
> When you get down to the bottom line - everybody breaths a sigh of
> relief
> that military folks are dedicated, make a sacrifice, and keep this
> country safe.
>
> Best
> - Greg P.
>
>
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