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klr650-digest        Friday, November 5 1999        Volume 02 : Number 1111



(klr650) Gino's Bike?
Re: (klr650) Release Date
Re: (klr650) Washing jackets NKLR
Re: (klr650) FS...oingo boingo
Re: (klr650) Gino's Bike?
Re: (klr650) Part of "Wish List" complete NKLR-Math!
Re: (klr650) Wish we had a bash plate like this for the KLR???
RE: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR
(klr650) Heritage and Guzzi's NKLR
Re: (klr650) Gino's Bike?
Re: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR
RE: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR
Re: (klr650) FS...oingo boingo
(klr650) Re:  ADvice needed
RE: (klr650) Re:  ADvice needed
(klr650) Re:  ADvice needed
(klr650) NKLR First Gear H/T Overpants
(klr650) RE: Learn Texan?????
(klr650) seats
(klr650) Charging At Idle II
RE: (klr650) seats

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 03:22:44 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Gino's Bike?

Is this Gino's bike? I don't think I've seen this site before...

http://www.frankdoerr.com/

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 03:23:55 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Release Date

> Does anyone know what the release date is for the new kawasaki's every
> year? ie: the 2001 KLR. I seem to remember perhaps that the 2000's
were
> out in July. Is this correct?

They've been out in July for the last few years...

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 05:30:35 -0500
From: Gary Weaver <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Washing jackets NKLR

Listers,
 Mark and myself can verify that this method works very well for both the
jacket and your machine.After Wednesday commute home, my KLR wad cleansed of
all the road dirt.
Worked better than a power wash at the local car wash.I might add that it's
also very economical.The storm was also effective in defoliating the trees
here in Keystone Moto Land.Gee,I guess I'll get to try my new tires out on
wet leaves now.
                  Gary, live at the KLR naval academy

Mark wrote:

> Riding in rain driven by 98 mile per hour winds worked for my Fieldsheer
> Jacket the other day.
> Mark
> B2
> A2
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 03:57:15 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) FS...oingo boingo

> Anyone have any ACTUAL experience with the Tiger? I was thinking of
adding
> another bike next year and let the wife have the KLR (only when I am
not
> riding it!

Bill Haycock owns one and Kurt Grife was part of a test crew for the new
for '99 version. Bill is the webmaster at www.dualsport.org and Kurt is
a frequent contributor to the list and is now languishing away in Baja
(g)...

Kurt


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:24:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Gino's Bike?

<Is this Gino's bike? I don't think I've seen this site before...

http://www.frankdoerr.com/>
You were referring to the first picture of the red bike, right? <seg>

Jim-A13-Cocoa

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 02:52:15 +0000
From: Kahiau <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Part of "Wish List" complete NKLR-Math!

ROTBL (rolling on the beach laughing)
kahiau
E14

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 02:56:09 +0000
From: Kahiau <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Wish we had a bash plate like this for the KLR???

I bet Tim could make it!

kahiau
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:03:52 -0500
From: "Scherer, Michael" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR

I have never had problems jumping cars in any of the ways suggested.  The
only thing I want to mention is that the current flows from the negative
pole to the positive.  Even stating this, your statement below is still
correct.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Barwig [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 6:55 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR


>Hmm. I've been told to hook up both grounds (neg) first, then pos on dead
car,
then pos on live car... Hasn't killed me yet, and it makes sense to me in
that
order -- no current is attached or could be flowing until the very last
connection. <

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 7:20:00 -0700
From: "Pokluda, Gino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Heritage and Guzzi's NKLR

Just out of curiosity, how important is a motorcycle's racing heritage or
lineage to you the consumer.  The reason I ask this, is because I was
reading the latest Cycle World last night which had an article about the new
Triumph 995.  They love the bike, it works great, but blast it because it
has no racing lineage.  What's up with that?  I realize that if I were a
road racer, that would make a difference, but the majority of the riders
that buy that bike will usually only scrape pegs on the way to the coffee
house.

By the way, there is an ad for the Moto Guzzi Quota in that same issue.
 While BMW is happy to show women (who have probably never been on a
motorcycle) posing by sparkling clean F650's, MG chose to show a women who
actually looks like she knows how to ride (and recently wore a helmet)
standing next to the muddy Quota.  You go girl!  Bravo Moto Guzzi.

Gino


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 7:25:00 -0700
From: "Pokluda, Gino" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Gino's Bike?

<<Is this Gino's bike? I don't think I've seen this site before...

http://www.frankdoerr.com/>
You were referring to the first picture of the red bike, right? <seg><<


Yea, very funny.  My bike is, of course, the handsome KLR650 with the
checkered tank.  I do not have those boxes on it anymore, those were
prototypes that I tested for Dan Doerr a couple of years ago.

Gino


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:42:04 -0700
From: "Skip Faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR

>I have never had problems jumping cars in any of the ways suggested.  The
>only thing I want to mention is that the current flows from the negative
>pole to the positive.  Even stating this, your statement below is still
>correct.
>
> Michael


    That`s called Electron Theory, which is correct but confuses most
people. When using a schematic, either theory, conventional or electron
theory, can be used as long as you stay with the same one while tracing a
circuit.

Skip


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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:55:12 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Fw: (klr650) Speaking of electrics NKLR

    I've read in There are No Electrons and other sources that no one
knows for sure which way the current flows. Bogdan


    I want to mention is that the current flows from the negative
    pole to the positive

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:41:06 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) FS...oingo boingo

In a message dated 11/5/99 2:56:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Bill Haycock owns one and Kurt Grife was part of a test crew for the new
 for '99 version. Bill is the webmaster at www.dualsport.org and Kurt is
 a frequent contributor to the list and is now languishing away in Baja
 (g)...

 Kurt >>

Nope, I'm back for a few days.  I liked the Tiger very much, great motor and
very nimble.  Handled loose dirt roads very well but my big concern was the
vulnerability of the oil cooler and radiator coolant lines in case of a
spill, they are very exposed.
Regards
Kurt G

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:11:36 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Re:  ADvice needed

              I found a 1988 KLR 650 with about 6000. miles, Pretty rough,
Guy wants 900.00 for it, With a little elbow grease and 200.00 I could have
it looking pretty good, I didn't here it run , Needs a batt, Looks like its
been sitten for a few years,

Mike

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:53:47 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Re:  ADvice needed

    A bike that's been siting around can incur more damage and wear than
a high mileage machine that's been maintained properly. It's rare that a
machine such as you describe has been stored properly. The first thing I
would check is the state of all fluids; don't forget the brake fluid. If
possible do a compression test. My brother bought a beautiful R75 Beemer
with less than 20k miles. It needed rings from just siting. I bet you could
talk him down to $500. Bogdan

                  I found a 1988 KLR 650 with about 6000. miles, Pretty
rough,
    Guy wants 900.00 for it, With a little elbow grease and 200.00 I
could have
    it looking pretty good, I didn't here it run , Needs a batt, Looks
like its
    been sitten for a few years,


    Mike

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:04:09 -0500
From: Ian Cariolo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re:  ADvice needed

>I found a 1988 KLR 650 with about 6000. miles, Pretty
>rough, Guy wants 900.00 for it, With a little elbow grease and 200.00 I
>could have it looking pretty good, I didn't here it run , Needs a batt, Looks
>like its been sitten for a few years,
>
>
>    Mike


Wow, I basically bought the same bike. I got a lot more than I bargained
for problem-wise.

A quick checklist for you:

1. Check the airbox for rodentia
2. The oil is no good, so don't even think of firing it up until you
replace it
3. The coolant's condition is also dubious
4. The tires MUST have at least a little dry rot
5. Expect quite a bit of scaly rust in the gas tank
6. When you replace the battery, squirt a little oil in the cylinder before
turning it over
7. Inevitably, there's gonna be varnish in your carburetor
8. Lastly, I wouldn't go over $600

Good luck.

lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Ian Cariolo
1985 VF700F Interceptor
1986 Kawasaki KL600B
Duxbury, MA
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:33:58 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR First Gear H/T Overpants

I have a new pair of size 40 First Gear H/T Overpants that was ordered for
another customer that I have to return because they were too large.

If anyone can use these great pants, I will take off $40 from the regular
suggested price of $185 to the first person that tells me that they want
them.

Fred Hink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
             Arrowhead Motorsports
 http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
    435-259-7356  Fax [phone]
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 03:48:39 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chesley, Andrus)
Subject: (klr650) RE: Learn Texan?????

Ha ha ha just in from my 2 weeks offshore Louisiana. now to play... ha
ha ha.
Jaun..... learn Texan???? Ha ha ha all most imposible..  but the real
challege is to learn Half barrel cajun talk.. Know just enuff French to
get in serious trouble and it don't sound nuttin like the up north or
cross the pond stuff. ha ha ha ha ... Hmmm dont even think it can be
wrote...
I tried to talk to some people from Quebec once and they ask me to do it
in english so they could unnerstand me more better....  Oh well....
least we could talk and laugh... ;0)


- --
Cheers and Best Regards
Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking
Jennings, La.
R11RA,DR350SET,A14
"So Many Roads, So Little Time"
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:09:08 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chesley, Andrus)
Subject: (klr650) seats

Hey guys and gals
Stock seat on new Y2K has got to go. Love the Corbin on my R11RA and
love the one on my ex '95 R11GSA. Quite a few 700 to 900 mile days on
those dudes with no butt pains. What's the yeahs and nays on Cobin
modified or Russel or Tim Simmon in Fayetteville, Ark.  or???????.
Had to modify the Corbin for my DR with the help of local uphostry dude
and soft foam.... did okay....but need better for the KLR.. Long days in
plans. Let's hear it from the dude doing 500 to 700 mile days out there.

- --
Cheers and Best Regards
Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking
Jennings, La.
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:47:45 -0500
From: "R. Kaub" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Charging At Idle II

The consensus seems to be that the bike will not charge at idle speed.
This, of course, begs the question:  At what speed does the alternator
begin to charge the battery?
Thanks.
Bob Kaub


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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:49:27 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) seats

> those dudes with no butt pains. What's the yeahs and nays on Cobin
> modified or Russel or Tim Simmon in Fayetteville, Ark.  or???????.
> Had to modify the Corbin for my DR with the help of local uphostry dude
> and soft foam.... did okay....but need better for the KLR.. Long days in
> plans. Let's hear it from the dude doing 500 to 700 mile days out there.

Andy, I haven't heard anyone regret getting a Russell or Mayer seat for
comfort and long-distance riding. There are riders on this list that use the
Corbin (modified and not) and the stocker with their KLR and have no
complaints either. I would suggest trying Russell or Mayer because they have
a money-back guarantee on comfort.

Regards,

Kurt


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