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klr650-digest          Friday, March 5 1999          Volume 02 : Number 091




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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:23:52 -0700
From: "Tim Bernard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) RIP KLR

I am thaankful that Cameron is Ok & was spared. I too have some major
injuries.
#1 drive defensive Cameron was alert & did what he could to save himself,
but lets not prejudge the guy who said the first that came to his mind. WE
ALL HAVE SAID THINGS THAT WERE NOT APPROPIATE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER
- -----Original Message-----
From: Preferred Customer <[e-mail]>
To: KLR 650 <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) RIP KLR


>Even though I'm a new lister and should speak only when spoken to, I gotta
>chime in here 'cause this is a touchy subject with me:  Sombody asked
>Cameron what he learned from the accident.  Well judging from the list of
>gear he was wearing (leather jacket, gloves, quality helmet, riding boots,
>thick pants, etc.) it would seem to me that the dude knows a few things
>already.  I've had a flat on my race bike, but I had some warning.  A
>blowout is very unexpected, and gives you no warning at all.  Furthermore,
>who can figure what those dick head drivers are gonna do who follow way too
>close to us motorcyclists.  So my point is, what happened to Cameron was
>sudden and unforseeble, there was really nothing he could do.  But the part
>that he could control, like the gear he was wearing, he had covered.  The
>fact that we all ride KLR's means we are smarter than most motorcyclists ;)
>so dont lapse and ever ride without proper safety gear.  The day I got hit
>(head on at speed), I just happened to be wearing the same kind of stuff
>Cameron had on.  And like him, my ass was spared.  If that lady hit me on
>the day I wheelied my way to the gym in shirt & shorts, today the only
place
>I'd be dual sporting would be up there in the clouds.  Most of the listers
>here I'm sure are into safety gear so cut me off and hit the delete key
now.
>But for those who think that all that stuff is expensive and hot, think
>again, and put it on.  Cameron, glad you're OK, & hope you fully recover
>soon.
>BG
>
>

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:33:05 +0000
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Tach troubleshooting...

So I call Fred to get a manual. And because of the recent discussion on line, I
pick up an extra shift lever for my trip to Baja. And a stainless steel oil
filter.

Fred's just got such a smooth voice. I'd buy anything from that man. :)

Hopefully, in a couple of weeks, I'll be able to post to the list about my
efforts to remember what I used to know about engines and electric circuits...
And maybe I'll even have a working tach.

Sarah

Fred Hink wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
> To: List KLR <[e-mail]>
> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:30 PM
> Subject: (klr650) Tach troubleshooting...
>
> >Does anyone have a clue as to how to approach Sarah's non-functioning tach?
> How does
> >the thing work so that one can troubleshoot it? Fred?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Kurt
> >
> >
> >
>
> There is a whole section on figureing out the tach in the KLR base manual on
> pages: 14-19, 14-20 & 14-21  If Sarah doesn't  have the manual and has some
> electrical experience and a multimeter then I would be glad to help her out.
>
> Fred

- --
Beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
There is a field.
I'll meet you there.
                -Rumi

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:11:31 -0600
From: "J.P.Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Cameron's Crash NKLR

Bogdan Swider wrote:
> Great advice by the Kurtmeister. I'll add that you should shop around for
> physical therapists; they're not all the same. I had one that had me on
> the road to infirmity till I got better advice.


I agree.  If he's not helping, try a different one.  I've seen a wide
variance in 'abilities' among different physio therapists, massage
therapists, and chiropractors.

phil

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:48:18 -0600
From: "J.P.Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) - was Cameron's Crash - now 'Stupid' story

Bill sed:
>after hearing your story, I'm just gonna pull
>over and let the impatient ones pass me and the Moose by!

hungree added:
I've followed 'tailgater' threads on other lists and am surprised at how
many say they carry small stones or ball bearings to toss over their
shoulder...


Bill sed:
>I still remember vividly how it feels
>(road rash/broken bones/bruises), even though it was 10 1/2 years ago! Wearing
>that stuff saved you from a lotta pain on top of what you already have. Be
>grateful!

hungree added:
I wonder about that...could it be that the pain increase is inversely
proportional to the amount of injury?  Seems like I've had smaller and
larger (amounts of) injuries over the years and it didn't seem to matter
that I also had road rash when I already had a dislocated shoulder, or
when I crushed my foot, the other bruises didn't seem to matter at all.

Well, I gotta tell this MAJOR DUMB story about my crushed foot...

I had an '81 Yamaha ??175 Enduro, a real pretty little RED bike that I
bought new, primarily for running around town and to work and back.  I
had it for several years and it was in perfect condition...and did I
mention it was pretty, too?  I hardly ever took it off the road, even
though I REALLY missed thrashing around in the dirt, because I didn't
want to scratch her...she was so pretty.

One Sunday morning I was riding up and down the street in front of my
house doing wheelies, just for fun.  Well, she came up and over and was
falling to the left.  I was so afraid of HURTING my pretty little bike
that I threw myself on the pavement and pulled her down on top of me so
SHE wouldn't get hurt.

Well, horrors!  I broke the tail light lense!  But that's all!

Oh, ya, I crushed my foot and almost put a handlebar through my chest.

Glad I ain't that young'n'stupid anymore...heh heh heh.

hungree

phil in regina (that street's still got a lotta ice'n'snow on it...maybe
another 3 weeks or so...)

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:49:03 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Dynojet Needle Spacers

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Magier <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 12:57 PM
Subject: Dynojet Needle spacers


>Thanks for the help Kurt. Now, what about those 2 spacers . . .?
>Mike Magier


Memory is getting hazy (I forgive myself, its been a year) list can you help Mike and
I...does the kit comes with 2 spacers? They should go on the needle before (lower)
than the  clip but before (above) inserting into the plastic housing right?

Thanks,

Mike and Kurt

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:59:02 -0600
From: waynef <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Question regarding exhaust heat

I had not noticed until today that the exhaust on the KLR is producing
enough heat that the luggage rack is becoming very hot on the side over
the exhaust.  In fact, the grab rail section of the rack is hot enough
not to be able to hold on to if there were a passenger.  Has anyone else
noticed this?  This has probably always been the case but I did notice
it and became concerned that something was causing the exhaust to
overheat.  The temp gauge is reading normal.   Thanks for the help.

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:04:47 -0600
From: "J.P.Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) RIP KLR - ROH (Rot in Hell) Tailgater

Tim sed:
> but lets not prejudge the guy who said the first (thing) that came to his mind...



Sorry, Tim, I can't agree...Anyone who follows too close and causes an
accident is prejudged in my book every time!

I was 'run over' as well, and went through HELL for 10 years.
I cannot cut that guy ANY slack!

Glad you survived, Cameron, hope you recover fully, and SUE the bastard!

hungree (keep honking, I'm reloading)

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:23:25 -0800
From: Mike Magier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR - Moab weather

Can anyone tell me what to expect for night-time temps in late May/early
June in Moab? I'm thinking of doing some camping while there, and I'm trying
to figure out just what to bring (gotta pack light - traveling by KLR)

Mike Magier
98A12 (...GroundHog...)

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:25:20 -0600
From: "J.P.Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) was: Cameron's Crash ... now: Bad place to get injured...

Kurt Simpson wrote:
>...the shoulder is a bad place to get injured...


...heh heh heh, so is the left lane, the right lane AND the sidewalk...

But, speaking of painful places to get injured...

Many years ago I was dirt bikin' with a friend in the 'Big Muddy', a
valley South of here.  I saw him crash just over a little rise and, not
seeing him get up right away, went over to check.

Turns out he came across a rattlesnake and in an effort to avoid it he
not only ran over it but then fell off the bike.  The snake, rather
pissed at being ridden over, bit him...got him right on the penis.

Well, he couldn't ride and our bikes were too small for two, so I raced
across country to the nearest town for help (only a couple of miles
away).  I rode in hard and fast and spotted the doctor's office on Main
Street.

I burst into the office and explained the problem and the Doc said he'd
get in his 4x4 and get out there as quick as he could, but it was VITAL
that I get back to my buddy as fast as possible and "make a cut and suck
the poison out, or he'll DIE!".

I rode back out there just as hard and fast, and my friend asked what
the doctor said.  I broke the news..."Yer gonna die!"

phil

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:38:11 -0600
From: "J.P.Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Touratech Review

Good article!  Thanks Bill + Vik.



Bill Haycock wrote:
>
> Vik,
>
> I have finished your review on the Garmin GPS 45 Mount.  It is posted on the
> Dual Sport Web Page - Go to the Home Page and click on the article - you can
> also find it directly at:
>
> http://www.dualsport.org/page87.html
>
> Thanks for the article and appreciate the work you did to get it to me - hope
> others who are interested in GPS and mounts will find it helpful.
>
> Bill

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:47:07 -0700
From: "Tim Bernard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) RIP KLR - ROH (Rot in Hell) Tailgater

I wasn't trying to get any agreement or justify the guy or keep anybody from
doing what they want.
#1 Cameron was prepared
- -----Original Message-----
From: J.P.Zucht <[e-mail]>
To: KLR List <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: (klr650) RIP KLR - ROH (Rot in Hell) Tailgater


>Tim sed:
>> but lets not prejudge the guy who said the first (thing) that came to his
mind...
>
>
>
>Sorry, Tim, I can't agree...Anyone who follows too close and causes an
>accident is prejudged in my book every time!
>
>I was 'run over' as well, and went through HELL for 10 years.
>I cannot cut that guy ANY slack!
>
>Glad you survived, Cameron, hope you recover fully, and SUE the bastard!
>
>hungree (keep honking, I'm reloading)
>

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:25:19 -0800 (PST)
From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) "DOH!" (NKLR) F650 comparisons

Arne,
My only problem to date with the KLR is I don't have enough time to
ride it. I plan on taking a five state tour next month and still only
have 350 miles on the odometer. Not knowing the schedule of my dealer,
I hope he can get it in and out quickly for the 500 mile check-up. I
really enjoy this thing, I have had a number of bikes in the past and
this gives me all the good feelings from each. Kawasaki really did a
good job on this, probably why they have not changed anything
drastically since the KLR A1.

Good luck, and ride safely.




- ---Arne Larsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Dear everyone,
>
> I just wanna say that I kinda feel a bit like a Homer right now.  I
just got
> back after spending the better part of 3 hours, looking through some
166
> postings (in the Archives over at Gino's place) regarding F650 bike
> comparisons.
>
> I feel bad badly that I've bent peoples ears on this matter when
(judging by
> all the previous traffic), there must be ears out there that are
touching
> the ground by now.
>
> To Michael Kovaliv and Reverand "Chuck", since you both were at the
same
> place I am now, are you still happy with your decisions?
>
> I've gotta say though, being a stubborn Norwegian myself (just ask
my wife),
> that Helge Pederson sure makes a guy proud!  But I dare say that
traversing
> "Horsethief Pass" switchbacks on the BMW would scare the shit outta
me.  For
> people who haven't seen this - you've got to.  Check out the
Dual-sport news
> archives and look for Tom's post.
>
> Goodnight all,
>
> Arne
>
>
>

==
Rev. Chuck
'99 KLR651
:^)>+



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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:35:28 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: 500 mile check

>My only problem to date with the KLR is I don't have enough time to
>ride it. I plan on taking a five state tour next month and still only
>have 350 miles on the odometer. Not knowing the schedule of my dealer,
>I hope he can get it in and out quickly for the 500 mile check-up.

Rev. Chuck, be careful, a lot of people have had dealers be very willing to do a quick
500 mile check...charging you $150 for essentially an oil change...Kawasaki says valve
check/adjustment and that is what you should insist on...many of us have had tight
valves on the first check. (I had 3)...

Kurt

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:44:14 -0700
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Chain clarification

Jake, No less an authority than Eldon Carl himself speaking "Ex Cathedra"
told me my method of judging chain tension must be great since my chain
lasted so long. Here it is: With the bike on it's sidestand & unloaded, find
the spot were the bottom run of the chain is closest to the padded front
section of the swingarm. Push the chain up. It should almost touch the
swingarm. About 1/16" away; 1/8" is too much. Afterwards you can see how
much loading the bike changed it's position and go by that when the bike is
loaded although I never bother. I check it at night while oiling. Bogdan

>  The article on the webpage by Eldon Carl re: chain tension
> seems to indicate the bike needs between 50-55 mm of play with the back
> wheel completely off the ground?

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:54:16 -0800 (PST)
From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Fork Air Pressure?

Having only one minor (?) issue with my bike: the "rapid road angle
change" when mashing the front binders, I plunged into a quick and
easy attempt to remedy. I added 10 psi to the cold forks and stiffened
the rear re-bound. Not only did I raise the seat height (I am now 36
inch inseam-challenged) but I also cut the dive effect quite a bit,
enough for me for now.

Anybody know if 10-psi cold will damage the seals, or promote early
demise?

Maybe I should measure the fork pressure after a good long washboard...





==
Rev. Chuck
'99 KLR651
:^)>+



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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:58:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Low fender

Has anyone considerded re-mounting the factory front fender down lower
to the wheel? I get this "full jib-sail" effect when being passed by
an oncoming semi...




==
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'99 KLR651
:^)>+



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