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klr650-digest         Sunday, January 24 1999         Volume 01 : Number 484




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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:19:56 -0800
From: "Darrel & Deanna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Rally Ho: NKLR

- - -Tom
'96 KLR 650
which has never been south of Orangeburg, SC
but may make it to New York this summer.  :)
***********************
Wouldn't be the BMW National would it Tom?  Darrel (left coast)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:42:06 -0800
From: Brian Bonenfant <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Bad Day Bad Bolts

     Good to here that you were ok and able to ride home, could have been worse.
On that note, are the steel bear claw type foot pegs from a KX able to fit on the
KLR. I want to replace the current OEM rubber insert foot pegs with something a
bit more durable and less slippery made of steel and reasonably cheap.

Any ideas out there ??

regards,
Brian

[e-mail] wrote:

>  as I was going over some
> sand washes up on the pegs my left footpeg disappears, bolts sheared off, not
> a good moment as I was doing forty thru this section, finally stopped found
> the peg and was able to lodge a long bolt from my tool kit into one of the
> bolt holes.  Well looked down at my leg and have a six inch gash bleeding
> badly, had to ride 50 miles back to town and explain to my wife and doctor why

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:52:05
From: guy cheney <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Chain Adjust ?

Hey All,

A couple of observations and a couple of questions.  Got my first ride in
for a couple of weeks, I was riding on new Progressive fork springs and a
new 16 tooth front sprocket.  I cut the fork spring spacer down to 4.75"
(Progressive's standard length recommendation is 4.5") as I weigh about 195
and figured I could use the extra firmness.  Gone is the disconcerting
little "nod" the front end used to perform when entering corners under
throttle.  The front end is quite firm but completely predictable and
though I probably would have been happy with the spacers at 4.5" I'm not
going to change them now. This marked success with the fork springs has
encouraged me to ask two questions:

1) Any one with experiencce regarding the DP Works Heart Transplant?  Will
it do for the rear end what the Progressives did for the front end?
(Buying an upgrade shock is currently out of the question financially.)
2) Will changing to a braided steel front brake line result in the same
degree of improvement in braking as the improvement in suspension that
resulted from installing the Progressives?

Okay, as for the second toy, I'm also completely satisfied.  The 16 tooth
sprocket (rear still 43) makes 5th gear much more friendly at the 65-75
(okay, sometimes 80) mph range that I generally ride in.  Acceleration has
suffered little (no wheelies performed here anyway!) and 1st is still low
enough to require little if any clutching at low speeds when going in
between all the crawling cages.  (Even on Sunday afternoon was I able to
find enough traffic to do some slow speed lane splitting - aren't we due
for a plague or something?)  Thanks to Fred and others for your sprocket
size suggestions - 16 and 43 is dynamite by me.

I've read with interest the ongoing discussion re chain lube.  My question
is about checking the slack.  I've been getting the rear wheel off the
ground using a hybrid of the economy swingarm stand found at the DSN site -
two twelve inch lengths of 4x4. This makes it easy to lube the chain but
I'm wondering if the change in geometry will still allow me to use the
standard 50-60mm slack measurement.  The slack doesn't appear to change
between the bike being on the side stand or on the swingarm "stand" but I
just don't want to miss anything.  Input is welcomed, as always.

Was it Ron in Oakland who recently gave some input regarding Timbuk2 bike
messenger bags?  I'm trying to decide on their medium or large bag. Again,
input welcome.

Thanks,

Guy Cheney (Who is beginning to trust his "Progressive" Josephine)
Albany, CA


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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:04:51 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Bad Day Bad Bolts

Brian Bonenfant wrote:

[...]
> KLR. I want to replace the current OEM rubber insert foot pegs with something a
> bit more durable and less slippery made of steel and reasonably cheap.
>
> Any ideas out there ??

KLR600 pegs?
Replaced my 600 pegs with some rubberised Tengai pegs for road comfort.
The 600 pegs are also about 2/3 the width of the road pegs, so if
you wear good hefty offroad boots (like my old Alpinestars) the
boot will overhang the peg somewhat.

Mister_T and the B1 Bomber

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:37:15 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Bad Day Bad Bolts

>     Good to here that you were ok and able to ride home, could have been worse.
>On that note, are the steel bear claw type foot pegs from a KX able to fit on the
>KLR. I want to replace the current OEM rubber insert foot pegs with something a
>bit more durable and less slippery made of steel and reasonably cheap.
>
>Any ideas out there ??
>
>regards,
>Brian


A bunch of us us IMS bear claws. I like 'em even though they have no rubber inserts.
I've never been bothered by the increased vibes...the right one did require some
verbal lubricant and a couple of taps from my percussion screwdriver...Fred has
them...DualStar was going to make them but decided against it when IMS came out with
theirs...

Kurt

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:01:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (michael Stecyk)
Subject: (klr650) TIM Bernard

Dear LISt
Can anybody post E-mail Adress of Tim Bernard---Bought his Touring
pegs--great product--want to know more of rad.
protecter.---------Mikey(My mind is full-i don't need any furniture)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:09:43 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) TIM Bernard

- -----Original Message-----
From: michael Stecyk <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 6:03 PM
Subject: (klr650) TIM Bernard


>Dear LISt
>Can anybody post E-mail Adress of Tim Bernard---Bought his Touring
>pegs--great product--want to know more of rad.
>protecter.---------Mikey(My mind is full-i don't need any furniture)

Tell, Tim to post to the list and tell us what they are going to look like and when
they'll be ready and then get set to receive about 500 orders...Master Tim is at

[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:17:38 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain Adjust ?

>1) Any one with experiencce regarding the DP Works Heart Transplant?  Will
>it do for the rear end what the Progressives did for the front end?

Jim Barthell and Stuart Heaslet have had new Works shocks built but I don't think any
listers have reported on transplants...

>2) Will changing to a braided steel front brake line result in the same
>degree of improvement in braking as the improvement in suspension that
>resulted from installing the Progressives?

Not quite but close enough to be a must have. I wouldn't recommend anyone change to
the SS line w/o a fork spring change. You might as well ride a pogo stick. The
brakelines are a close second to the springs. For myself, I'm just waiting for Tom to
give us a thumbs up on the MAP rotor and then there will be two and that will be
enought for me...when you ride two-up the brakes on the KLR are scary...


>for a plague or something?)  Thanks to Fred and others for your sprocket
>size suggestions - 16 and 43 is dynamite by me.

For me too...

>standard 50-60mm slack measurement.  The slack doesn't appear to change
>between the bike being on the side stand or on the swingarm "stand" but I
>just don't want to miss anything.  Input is welcomed, as always.


I'm not an expert but I would take the bike off any stand...I stand on the right side
and usually have someone stabilize the bars for me (I think I could do it alone
now)...bike is not on any stand...I lay over the seat grasp the leftside swing arm
and pull up to flatten the rear spring and then with my right hand catch a quick feel
on the chain...it seems to work well..

>Was it Ron in Oakland who recently gave some input regarding Timbuk2 bike
>messenger bags?  I'm trying to decide on their medium or large bag. Again,
>input welcome.


Great bags...great people...I've but the bolo and the dee dog and I like the bigger
bolo..it is excellent but my favorite is the Top of the Line rack with a couple of
ortlieb dry duffels...

Kurt A12 OB
Salt Lake City, UT (where more heads are a rollin each day)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:56:17 +0000
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Rally Ho: NKLR

At 03:19 PM 1/24/99 -0800, Darrel & Deanna wrote:
>- -Tom
>'96 KLR 650
>which has never been south of Orangeburg, SC
>but may make it to New York this summer.  :)
>***********************
>Wouldn't be the BMW National would it Tom?  Darrel (left coast)



    That is indeed one option. It depends on how the sceduling works out. I
may in fact make it up their twice, once for the National (preferably on
the R60/7, but on the KLR if nessicery) and once on a solo jaunt in May.
The latter will be all riding, the former would likely involve trailering
at least one way for logistical and time reasons.



- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
'77 R60/7

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:21:16 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Street legal dirt bikes...NKLR

>Thinking about putting together a XR600 that can go down the highway without
>the police rag'n on me..
>thanks Jim.
>------------------------------------------------
>>   [e-mail]    <
>------------------------------------------------

Jim, have you seen this article?:


http://www.znet.com/~hwp/jeremyh/xr600/xrproj.html>

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:42:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (michael Stecyk)
Subject: (klr650) RAD-Guards

Dear Meister Tim,
Please inform list what's going on with your Rad. guard project- love
your tour pegs--Inquiring Minds want to know?
Mikey (More Buddha like every day)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:06:20 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (Conall O'Brien)
Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Internet Travel Dispatch-China

Carla King - author of the Internet's AMERICAN BORDERS series presents:
The CHINA ROAD Dispatches.
An American woman, a chinese motorcycle, and a laptop computer from
border to border... and back again. http://www.verbum.com/jaunt/china

Also a chat and slideshow w/Carla about her solo journey through China.
Wednesday, Feb 3 at 7:30. Admission $2.00
Philias Fogg's Bookstore , Stanford Shopping Center Palo Alto, CA. USA.

You can access this and 20 other travel stories at my KLR650 webpage at
http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html

Cheers,
Conall
A4 "Skyhawk"

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:30:24 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) any users of FMF's MegaMaxII pipe?

howdy,

Have any of us dared to strap an FMF MegaMaxII pipe to their rides yet?  I am
particularly interested to know if anyone has used it with the "Quiet Core"
insert.

By the way, and not being facetious, sinse this post does not make reference
to the Kawasaki KLR 650, was it to be tagged "NKLR" in the subject field?

Continuing on the pipe... I would really like to know how this pipe stands up
to ye olde Supertramp E.A.R. pipe in terms of performance, but just as
important, noise.  I really am looking for the most silent pipe.

If anyone has read a review in the cycle rags about this pipe, would you be
kind enough to point me to a particular issue.

Steve "Roost-Target" Thomas
98 R/XC 620
96 Virago 1100
(who also thinks political musings by 16-year-olds, no matter how
"brilliantly" proclaimed, should be kept to a minimum on a list about vroom-
vrooms.  Unless it's really funny.)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:43:01 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) any users of FMF's MegaMaxII pipe?

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 1:37 PM
Subject: (klr650) any users of FMF's MegaMaxII pipe?


>
>howdy,
>
>Have any of us dared to strap an FMF MegaMaxII pipe to their rides yet?  I
am
>particularly interested to know if anyone has used it with the "Quiet Core"
>insert.

I use a Megamax on my XR600 but they are not available for the KLR.  The
quietcore kills the HP and makes a "swishy" sound that I did not care for,
so I removed it.  The pipe without the quietcore runs great, on par with the
Pro Circuit pipe that I replaced it with.  You can run the QC on a small
bike and not notice the power loss but on a big bike it is too restrictive
to make much power.

>Continuing on the pipe... I would really like to know how this pipe stands
up
>to ye olde Supertramp E.A.R. pipe in terms of performance, but just as
>important, noise.  I really am looking for the most silent pipe.

I have heard the EAR and I think I like the sound of the EAR better than the
Megamax.  It might not be any quieter but it does sound nicer.

Fred Hink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                    Arrowhead Motorsports
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW*
                           435-259-7356
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:44:03 +0000
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain Adjust ?

At 06:17 PM 1/24/99 -0700, Kurt Simpson wrote:

>>2) Will changing to a braided steel front brake line result in the same
>>degree of improvement in braking as the improvement in suspension that
>>resulted from installing the Progressives?
>
>Not quite but close enough to be a must have. I wouldn't recommend anyone
change to
>the SS line w/o a fork spring change. You might as well ride a pogo stick.
The
>brakelines are a close second to the springs. For myself, I'm just waiting
for Tom to
>give us a thumbs up on the MAP rotor and then there will be two and that
will be
>enought for me...when you ride two-up the brakes on the KLR are scary...



    I'll give it a thumbs up of sorts, for now.

    Installed it this moring, along with fresh 15wt fork oil. The latter would
seem to stiffen up the front suspention quite a bit but untill the rotor
and the new EBC pas wear in a bit, I dont have enough brakinig power to
test for dive. After about 40 miles of tooling about the metro Columbia
area (gorgeous weather today after ugly storms yesterday), braking power is
not quite back up to OEM levels yet. Still, I can allready see great
potential for this setup. The main problem is that the braided line means
that the leaver goes solid considerably further away from the grip than
with the stock brake line, so its actualy harder to squeeze down on. The
only solution I see for this longstanding problem is a custom brake lever.
I scrounged up some 2024 plate last year to do this with but havent had a
chance to do it yet.


- -Tom

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:02:53 -0600
From: "J.P.Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-KLR post...hit <delete>...do not read !

guy cheney wrote:

> Dear Professor Hungree
>
> Gee, it sure was refreshing to get your enlightened opinion about 'Mericans
> and how all 250+ million of us are reacting uniformly to the current
> political theater in the USA.  I bet your adoring students up there in the
> Department of Political Science (or is that the Department of Psychology)
> of the Royal (you are still subjects of that foreign queen, no?)
> Saskatchewan University must just adore you and your happy-go-lucky,
> paint-everybody-with-the-same-brush, speak-first-think-later (if ever)
> attitude. What is most remarkable to me is your ability to make such
> encyclopedic statements from such a distance - I assume you're a real CSpan
> fanatic and/or must have political conversations with a lot of people on
> your ocassional trips to Southern Wisconsin. Anyhow, in your honor I
> propose that we change the list immediately to one in which foreigners make
> global statements about Americans in general - only, of course, if the
> statements, like yours, are patently free of bigotry, xenophobia, and
> culturocentrism.  Those who actually subscribe to the list for the express
> purpose of discussing KLR 650s would obviously benefit from regular doses
> of your opinion concerning topics about which they are completely
> disinterested.  What do you say, Professor, will you bless us with your
> opinions?



                  Geeeeeez, what'd  I  SAY ????     (  I rest my case... )

...back into lurk mode...

hungree

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