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klr650-digest        Monday, December 21 1998        Volume 01 : Number 418




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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:50:05 PST
From: "Paul Christenson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) KLR Manual Supplements

>There are no English written KLR manuals other than the Kawasaki Base
>and Supplement manuals.  I have several KLR Base manuals for sale.
>The Supplement manual has been on back order for several months now.

Have they made a supplement to cover the '96 A10 KLR650?  I have the one
that covers to the '95, and was told that there was no supplement for
the '96.

If there is a supplement for the A10, I'd like to sell my supplement for
the A1 thru A9.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:56:24 -0700
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>Bike won't start.  Battery fully charged.  Kickstand down.  Kill switch in
the
>run position.  Clutch in (or out).  Hit started.  All I get is a faint
click
>down in the engine area.  HOW DO I DIAGNOSE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?
>
>The factory manual is of little help.  Is there a Haynes or Clymer manual
for
>KLR?  Is there a kickstart assembly that can be fitted to the KLR?  What
cost?
>Where sourced?  Does auto decompression work with a kick start.
>
>I suppose it could be a screwed up sidestand switch.  Could be a relay.
Could
>be the kill switch.  Could be a solenoid(?).  Maybe the starter.
>
>SURELY A GOOD MECHANIC (not me)  WOULD KNOW A DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE.  I
don't
>think the smart way to fix is to just start replacing everything.
>
>Will appreciate any and all advice!
>
>
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:02:08 -0500
From: "J.Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3

If I'm not mistaken (which I am most of the time) the Pegaso is
Aprillia's version of the BMW F650 just re-badged. If it is not, and I
am wrong, wasn't there a shared model based on that Rotax plant offered
by Aprillia and BMW?

Jake in Jacksonville
[e-mail] wrote:
>  Have been checking out the Aprilia Pegaso 3, great specs, can
> get a centerstand on it and they offer a full hard luggage package for it.  If
> any listers have seen or ridden this bike let us know about it.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:22:52 -0500
From: Michael Kovaliv <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3

I think it is the other way around.  The BMW F650 is based on the Pegaso.  BMW liked
the Pegaso and made some changes to make it "there own".  Is uses a Rotax engine and
is built to BMWs specs by Aprillia.

Mike Kovaliv

"J.Taylor" wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken (which I am most of the time) the Pegaso is
> Aprillia's version of the BMW F650 just re-badged. If it is not, and I
> am wrong, wasn't there a shared model based on that Rotax plant offered
> by Aprillia and BMW?
>
> Jake in Jacksonville
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >  Have been checking out the Aprilia Pegaso 3, great specs, can
> > get a centerstand on it and they offer a full hard luggage package for it.  If
> > any listers have seen or ridden this bike let us know about it.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:31:40 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3 NKLR

In a message dated 12/20/98 8:19:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think it is the other way around.  The BMW F650 is based on the Pegaso.>>

I read recently in a test article (Rider or Motorcyclist?) on the Pegaso, that
the BMW F650 is based on the Pegaso; and the testers liked the Pegaso a little
better than the F650. They said quality was just as good as the Beemer.They
also said that the Pegaso would be available in the USA in early 99'.

Bill Swindle
A12
Montgomery, IL.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:50:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Fwd: First Ride!!!!

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To all that helped me get the bike running-- thanks alot. It was 70+ degrees
here in Mississippi today and after rigging a gallon anti-freeze container for
a temporary fuel tank, I took my first ride in 25 years or so. It was more fun
than I remembered. The bike ran very well. Still need to get the feel of it
better before I get too bold-- didn't get over 50MPH, and it seemed like a
hundred.  There is definitely enough power there to  temp me to get foolish
too quick-- have to be careful and control my second childhood (or mid-life
crisis as some people like to say).  It was so much fun, it almost makes me
want to pop for new stock gas tank (almost).

Doug.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:56:23 -0700
From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Aprilia Pegaso 3

>I think it is the other way around.  The BMW F650 is based on the Pegaso.
BMW liked
>the Pegaso and made some changes to make it "there own".  Is uses a Rotax
engine and
>is built to BMWs specs by Aprillia.
>
>Mike Kovaliv



Mike,
   You are correct sir. Also, after reading two reviews on the Pegaso, I`m
not too impressed. Poor suspension, terrible vibration, poor handling,
sluggish engine response,..... need I go on? Almost sounds like another bike
I know.

     Skip

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:01:59 -0700
From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3

>I think it is the other way around.  The BMW F650 is based on the Pegaso.
BMW liked
>the Pegaso and made some changes to make it "there own".  Is uses a Rotax
engine and
>is built to BMWs specs by Aprillia.
>
>Mike Kovaliv
>

P.S.  I failed to mention, the reviews were last year, on the 97 model. The
reviews I read differ widely from the one described by
Bill in his post. Also, I have a buddy in Germany (American missionary) that
tells me that the Pegaso is not well thought of over there, but the American
KLR650 is.

      Skip

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:22:33 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Do Not Pegaso

Skip wrote:
>   You are correct sir. Also, after reading two reviews on the Pegaso, I`m
>not too impressed. Poor suspension, terrible vibration, poor handling,
>sluggish engine response,..... need I go on? Almost sounds like another bike

The Pegaso sure looked styling at the moto show in Long Beach.
They weren't giving test rides though.

John O - Go directly to Jail - Do not Pegaso
Rolling Hills, CA

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:58:02 -0500
From: Guy Cheney <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Lube that suspension!

Hi y'all,

After the recent buzz around the Scrooge-like application of lubricant to=

the rear suspension at the factory, I decided to check it out on my '96
with 6081 miles.  Yikes!  I'm only 81 miles past the factory recommended
mileage but this looks like it should have been attended to about 6000
miles ago.  Thanks for the heads up.

The factory manuals I have are for the '95 model and I've encountered the=

first significant difference between what's in the book and what's on the=

bike.  The front drive chain sprocket on my bike is held on by a 27 mm nu=
t
rather than by the two smaller bolts and diamond-shaped washer shown in t=
he
manual.  What is the torque for the 27mm nut?  I'm changing to a 16 tooth=

engine sprocket and I'd like to make sure it serves me long and well firm=
ly
attached to the countershaft.

Happy Holidays All,

Guy Cheney

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:07:44 -0500
From: Steve Rottenberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Fwd: ALRIGHT!!!

Ehem Mr Kawasaki, please, direct deposit  my commision check. You are welcome !

>Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:28:50 -0500
>From: Rob Heywood <[e-mail]>
>To: Steve Rottenberg <[e-mail]>

>all right already!!! You have convinced me, I will buy one tomorrow!!
>Actually, I was at the Kawasaki dealer earlier today(even before reading
>your glowing report about your KLR) and asked the dealer to set one up
>for me to test ride. I have been the happy owner of a 1975 Kaw F-9 350cc
>(the forefather of the KLR)  for years. Great bike!! But, I have the
>strong desire for this 99 KLR. After riding the type of bike, I couldn't
>buy anything but a KLR.
>
>party on!!
>
>Rob

Steve in Tampa
98 B12
95 KLR 650

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:09:12 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3

In a message dated 12/20/98 9:09:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< P.S.  I failed to mention, the reviews were last year, on the 97 model. The
 reviews I read differ widely from the one described by
 Bill in his post. >>

Yeah, the article I read was on the 99' models.

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:50:07 -0400
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Cort=E9s?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Dirt roads riding

As a lot of people in the list I always (90%) use my bike on pavement to =
commute or travel. I am planning some dirt roads riding soon and I have =
doubts about the right tire pressure to use.  I have the standard tires =
so any info or recomendation will be appreciated.  The type of road is =
dry with gravel and sometimes w/sand.

Juan
From Chile
98 A12

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:06:19 -0800
From: "Darrel & Deanna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso

> From: [e-mail]

> Have been checking out the Aprilia Pegaso 3, great specs, can
> get a centerstand on it and they offer a full hard luggage package
> for it.  If any listers have seen or ridden this bike let us know about
> it.

I ran into two chaps from Britain here in SoCal recently who were riding
brand new Pegaso 650s.  The bikes really caught my eye and at first glance,
from a distance, they looked like KLRs.  A closer look revealed a beautiful
riding machine of which I'd never seen.  Theirs were pitch black with Jesse
panniers and loaded for the long haul (they were headed for Tierra del
Fuego).  A very stylish dual sporter IMO and perhaps a cut above the
venerable KLR in this area.  Probably too exotic for my pocket book though.
The two riders seemed as intrigued by my KLR as I was by their Italian
mounts!
Darrel
A12 "Avenger"
L.A.

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:56:51 -0800
From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3 NKLR

Hello all,
Bit off the current topic, but I got to ask.  I'm looking to get a jet kit
on my 91 KLR with a racing core suppertrapp (8 discs or so) and a K&N
airfilter. First question: Dynojet offers three stages of jet kits, should
I get stage 1, 2, or 3? Second: Any commenents on K&N vs. Dynojet kits, is
one better than the other?

TIA
Carlos
Milwaukee, WI

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:15:47 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3 NKLR

>Hello all,
>Bit off the current topic, but I got to ask.  I'm looking to get a jet kit
>on my 91 KLR with a racing core suppertrapp (8 discs or so) and a K&N
>airfilter. First question: Dynojet offers three stages of jet kits, should
>I get stage 1, 2, or 3? Second: Any commenents on K&N vs. Dynojet kits, is
>one better than the other?


Both kits are the same as far as I know and contain dynojet jets. Stages 1-3 are also
the same kit and refer to which jets you use (in the same kit), how you set the
needle, and whether you modify your airbox...Hope you are choosing the IDS
supertrapp....

Kurt (former Milwaukeean..go Pack)

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:48:01 PST
From: "Paul Christenson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Supplement for A1-A9

Yikes!

I never figured on the response I got regarding my old supplement for
the KLR650 A1-A9 models.  It seems EVERYONE wants to buy it!

Since I have a '96 A10, which the supplement does NOT cover, and I want
a supplement that DOES cover the A10, here's what I propose...

An even-up trade... my A1-A9 supplement, in very good shape (no grease
or oil splotches; just a little garage floor dust) in exchange for a
supplement that DOES cover my A10 in similar (or better) condition.

The desire here is to help out someone that got nailed the same way I
did; wanted a shop manual, but the dealer didn't have the exact one, and
so settled for the closest available.  I'm not really interested in an
outright sale, since I'd rather have what I have than nothing at all.
(Of course, everything has its price... including the KLR itself!  <G>)

If you're in (or near) the south SF Bay area, we could meet up and
exchange.  Otherwise, we'll use the mail. There's no rush on my part.
Either way, email me.  (Please remove the KLR650 from the subject, so it
goes to my inbox, and not the list's box.)

Paul

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:04:16 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3 NKLR

- -----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Y. Gonzßlez <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Aprilia Pegaso 3 NKLR


>
>Hello all,
>Bit off the current topic, but I got to ask.  I'm looking to get a jet kit
>on my 91 KLR with a racing core suppertrapp (8 discs or so) and a K&N
>airfilter. First question: Dynojet offers three stages of jet kits, should
>I get stage 1, 2, or 3? Second: Any commenents on K&N vs. Dynojet kits, is
>one better than the other?
>
>TIA
>Carlos
>Milwaukee, WI
>
>

Dynojet makes the K&N jetkit.  They are the same kit and the difference
between the stage 1, 2 &3 is the jets you use in the kit.  I have them in
stock if you need the jetkit.  You would use the stage 1 jets with a stock
air box, use the stage 2 jets with a modified air box and exhaust and use
the stage 3 jets if you have modified the piston and/or cams.

Fred

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:23:59 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Supplement for A1-A9

Paul, as far as I know there is only one supplement and you already have it so might
as well hang on to it. Probably the reason people are responding is because the
supplement is on indefinite back order in the U.S.

Kurt A12


- -----Original Message-----
From: Paul Christenson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:49 AM
Subject: (klr650) Supplement for A1-A9


>Yikes!
>
>I never figured on the response I got regarding my old supplement for
>the KLR650 A1-A9 models.  It seems EVERYONE wants to buy it!
>
>Since I have a '96 A10, which the supplement does NOT cover, and I want
>a supplement that DOES cover the A10, here's what I propose...
>
>An even-up trade... my A1-A9 supplement, in very good shape (no grease
>or oil splotches; just a little garage floor dust) in exchange for a
>supplement that DOES cover my A10 in similar (or better) condition.
>
>The desire here is to help out someone that got nailed the same way I
>did; wanted a shop manual, but the dealer didn't have the exact one, and
>so settled for the closest available.  I'm not really interested in an
>outright sale, since I'd rather have what I have than nothing at all.
>(Of course, everything has its price... including the KLR itself!  <G>)
>
>If you're in (or near) the south SF Bay area, we could meet up and
>exchange.  Otherwise, we'll use the mail. There's no rush on my part.
>Either way, email me.  (Please remove the KLR650 from the subject, so it
>goes to my inbox, and not the list's box.)
>
>Paul
>
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