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klr650-digest         Monday, December 7 1998         Volume 01 : Number 394




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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:43:26 -0500
From: Cliff Duff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Duro tires

I saw a post early on Duro 60/40 tires and would like to try a set.  Does
anyone know where I can mail order a set.  I didn't see any in Dennis Kirk
or Chaparral.  The web-site does not have a dealer list or etc.  I was going
to get the IRC GP110 but the duros sound equal, if not better and cost less
from previous posts.

- --Cliff

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:52:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Duro tires

In a message dated 12/7/98 7:47:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I saw a post early on Duro 60/40 tires and would like to try a set.  Does
 anyone know where I can mail order a se >>
I e-mailed both addresses on the web site asking for dealer or distributor
info but as yet have not gotten a reply.  I have asked two dealer friends if
they have any info and so far the answer is no.  Duro seems to be strong in
the ATV tire market so I am going to try checking with a local ATV type shop
and if I get any info will post it to the list.

Kurt Grife
Avila Beach, Ca

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:51:38 -0700
From: "Tim Bernard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage racks

Hey
I went to moab for some awsome trail riding [Kant Leave Road stayed in the
barn] and great food. Then when Igetz back the dudes I get my internet
service from moved from next door and they had a problem and I was with with
out service for 9 or 10 days. Then my dog ate my password, so I went riding
again in 36 deg weather & got a brain chill. I am not smart enough to figure
out how to post. Some guy called and wanted pictures of my stuff so I took
pictures and that sowed that had a dirty bike. So now i gotta clean my bike
after I plow snow and read over 200 e-mails.
Happy Trails
Tim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
To: Allan Phipps <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
<[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage racks


>
>
>>I'm planning on getting some aerostitch soft luggage for my KLR.  Kurt
>>mentioned that Tim Bernard makes luggage racks that "keep the luggage from
>>scatching the side panels and burning on the rightside pipe".  How severe
>>is the scratching and burning without the racks?  (I'm more concerned
about
>>potential burning than scratching).  And... what do these racks cost and
>>how can I contact Tim Bernard?  What are some other options for preventing
>>the luggage from burning?
>
>
>Tim is on the list so maybe this post will wake him up...HEY TIM WAKEUP
time
>for some typing 'robics....I paid $140 for mine plus S&H early this past
>spring but Tim told me at Moab that he was going to have to raise the price
>to break even. Alex from Oak Park took a couple of trips w/o them and
>managed not to have a burn but who wants to add one more thing to worry
>about when we have all we can do to figure out whether we have enough
>oil....
>
>
>
>>
>>Also, I need new tires for my 96 KLR.  I'm planning on doing most of my
>>riding on pavement for the first while (I'm doing a trip across Canada
next
>>summer), but I would also like to be able to take the bike up the
>>occasional logging road.  Any recommendations re: tires?
>
>Avon Gripsters...
>
>
>Kurt
>
>

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 10:53:32
From: "R. Kaub" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Thermostat

My bike (A12, 3,500 miles) has had two thermostats this year.  Both behaved
identically.
If riding on the highway or paved back roads, the temperature gauge needle
stays far to the left side of the gauge, just off the cold position,
regardless of the outside temperature.  If chugging along in second gear on
dirt roads, the needle stays in the middle of the gauge, regardless of the
outside temperature.
The needle has never gone past the middle of the gauge, regardless of the
speed or outside temperature.
The original thermostat was replaced, under warranty, to repair a coolant
leak at the thermostat housing.
On my bike then, the road speed of the bike, not the outside temperature or
motor RPM, determines how hot the motor runs.  This behavior is reminiscent
of the behavior of car engines that had the thermostat removed for some
reason.
If I was just a casual observer, I would say that the KLR cooling system is
generally set up to overcool the engine.  This is a good thing.  Thanks.
Bob Kaub
State University of New York
PO Box 6000
Binghamton, NY  13902
607-777-2715

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:02:16 -0700
From: "Pokluda, Gino F" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) get out of digest mode

Anyone have the commands I need to get out of digest mode handy?

e-mail me at [e-mail]


Thanks

Gino

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:17:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) carb's -- vibration

In a message dated 12/6/98 9:25:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< It says to back the jet out 2 or
 3 turns.  Do I first turn the jet all the way in (will this ruin the
 needle?), and then back it out, or do I go out from where it already is?
 Does this increase performance much? >>

Brian,

Good questions all; keep on asking em'. When I first joined this list, I asked
some of the same questions, as do most of the new owners wanting to improve
their bikes.
(Needle Adjustment) I did this to my 98' KLR and had good results. Screwed the
screw in and backed it out.2 3/4-3 turns and did definitely feel a difference
in low end response. The bike wheelies easier. Just crack the throttle at
around 3500 RPM and tug a little and can pull em' easily. Didn't come up as
easy before I adjusted the screw. Just make sure you drill out the right plug.
One guy on the list drilled out the wrong one a while back. If you need help
on locating it, let me know (or the list).

<<I'm curious........is the KLR generally considered to be a pretty quick
bike, or am I just letting my inexperience show through.>>

If you're a good rider, you can embarass some less/mid-experienced sport-
riders on twisty roads. I do it all the time with friends. BUT....you ain't
gonna win any straight line races on the KLR against sport-bikes. Some of them
weigh just a little more than our KLR's, but have 100 H.P. or more! Still it's
fun to watch em pull away in the straights, and catch up to em' in the
corners.The only places I've been left in the dust are on the straights, where
some of the guys pull 130 plus mph. Our beloved KLR's just can't hang with
that, but I consider it a blessing; it keeps me outta ticket trouble. I used
to ride a VFR750, and was flying right up there with em'.
No danger of that now. To even come close to keeping up on the KLR. you HAVE
to be on the gas and pushing the engine pretty hard. It's best to just kick
back and enjoy a more relaxed riding style, and use the KLR for what it was
designed for.
She's not super-quick, but she's no slouch either! I spend a lot more time
riding out in the country now, finding dirt/gravel roads by myself. Much for
fun, and less dangerous than speed.

<< Is  this "problem" what others have been discussing on the
group recently when they're talking about filling the handle bars with caulk
or something, or putting some type of vibration absorbers on them? Also,
do you experienced guys recommend putting different handle grips on?>>

Yes. Many of us have put some type of heavy Metal/Lead/BB's in our bars,
mixing it with silicone or something else, to help calm the vibration. I used
it in combination with some thick foam grips and it made a definite
improvement; but you should probably try new grips first, as they seem to help
the most. Many on the list use the Pro Grip "gel" grips that you can get from
Fred Hink at Arrowhead Motorsports here on the list. I purchased my foam grips
from J.C. Whitney, and  like em' better than the any other types of grips I've
tried so far

Bill Swindle
A12
Montgomery, IL

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:23:26 -0500
From: Cliff Duff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Highland Outback "real" photo

For those doubting the Outback was real (I had my doubts), I just got my
January issue of Dirtbike magazine and they have a section on bike not
available in the U.S. (Over There) and they have a small blurb on the
Outback and a few "real" photos.  They mention nothing of it coming to the
U.S. or it's claimed weight.

- --Cliff

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:34:02 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V1 #392

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 5:39 AM
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V1 #392


>Howdy all
>
>Were can I purchase a 16 tooth front sprocket?


email Fred Hink at [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:36:21 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage racks

>Then my dog ate my password....

oh boy...another pathological liar on the list...join the club! Hey Tim, how
much for the side racks these days? Any new products you want to tell the
list about? What kind of shifter did you send me?

Regards,

Kurt

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:48:15 -0700
From: "Pokluda, Gino F" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) I'm heeeere  (NKLR)

Hey gang!  I dropped out of the DUST list and got onto the KLR list real
time instead of digest mode.  So now you get to put up with my irreverent
humor (a result of listening to the Brits on the Bandit list) and
miscellaneous ramblings.

Gino

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:41:47 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) ids superttapp

>As any body experimanted with the new supertrapp line.
>I just received their new catalogue,the klr 650 model is 3" and 16" long.
>they sell 2 new universal silencers  which seem interesting:


I wouldn't think about any SuperTrapp model except the IDS for the KLR. But,
at this point, I would wait a week on the Big Gun...it has been vaporware
since March but our man Cloudhidden is working closely with Mike Young on
the prototype. From all indications it will be the pipe of
choice....Patience...

Kurt
Bountiful, Utah

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:18:08 -0700
From: "Hirofumi A. Watanabe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Cycle Show NKLR (digest)

In a message dated 12/4/98, [e-mail] wrote:

>SoCal listers: Last years show had tons of accessories and companies
>you usually only get to see via mailorder catalog and www.sites! Easy
>way to pick up jackets, helmets, test-rides; all kinds of stuff free
>and cheap(er). My father bought a Shoei RF-800 helmet for $199
>(usually $239-289). Great excuse to get your Christmas gifts early
>from the wife/sig other/yourself, etc....and confirm Ron really
>exists! I'll be waiting for Daytona's show, a full 4 months from
>now.....sniff.
>
>Jake, envious of the left coast clan.

Jake, there were tons of products again this year. I didn't see Ron.
I am beginning to wonder if he isn't a figment of my imagination. Or
perhaps a hoax perpetrated by one of our fellow writers. Anyway March
is just around the corner. Tell us if anything is added to that show.

Hiro A10 Thunderbolt
Indulge yourself; You must be your own hero!

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:07:09 -0700
From: "Tim Bernard" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage racks

Side racks are $145.24 to listers & have grey in stock today. The shifter I
sent you was a McDonalds product. I am currently working on side racks for
fixed luggage. They will really be cool [pun intended] we are using soft
sided coolers with plastic insert. Some other things are in the works too.
Happy Trails
Tim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
To: Tim Bernard <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
<[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage racks


>>Then my dog ate my password....
>
>oh boy...another pathological liar on the list...join the club! Hey Tim,
how
>much for the side racks these days? Any new products you want to tell the
>list about? What kind of shifter did you send me?
>
>Regards,
>
>Kurt
>

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:27:46 PST
From: "Paul Christenson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Story about cleaning

>2).  What is the recommended stuff to use on the body plastic?  I
>ended up using ArmourAll with a couple of good buffing towels.  Used
>it on about everything (hoses, handlebars, tires, brake lines, etc.)
>and the bike looks great.  Anything better to use?

Gotta tell a story here regarding Armor All and my motorcycle...

Back around '84, I was in the Army, and my trusty Yamaha TS185 was my
link to the world off post.  I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, WA, and rode
everywhere; even the 100+ mile trip to the ocean at least twice a year.

One of my favorite pastimes was to go blasting down the tank trails on
the weekends.  I'd go flying down these dirt roads at 50-60 MPH, often
getting airborne on some of the larger bumps.  There were often
mud/water puddles, and I loved to try to jump completely over them.
Needless to say, I often didn't make it, and the bike and I would often
return home rather muddy.

As often happens, I had to spend a week in the field, playing Army games
(field training).  I entrusted my bike to my best friend Ray, who was
not a part of this exercise.  He had often borrowed the bike for a few
hours to run errands and such.  In fact, he had the spare key.

Well, I had been out tank trail riding the day before leaving for the
field.  Ray promised to wash the bike, since I hadn't had the chance to
do that.  He promised to return a clean bike.

"Clean" doesn't begin to describe it.  He had polished and waxed
everything; even getting the chain lube off of the rear wheel.  It
looked like a brand new bike.

I got on the bike, and started off.  Now, while leaving the parking
area, I normally stood up so I could see over the parked cars.  It was a
hundred feet or so to the stop sign, so I normally didn't shift out of
first gear.

I hit the brakes rather hard, as I usually did for that sign.  That's
when I realized that Armor All shouldn't be put on the seat...  Certain
sensitive body parts contacted the gas tank in a rather forceful manner.

Having learned that rather painful lesson, I rode a bit more carefully.

The next day, I found that I have a mild allergy to Armor All.. it
causes a rather irritating rash.

I got rather annoyed at that, but at least he didn't do the tires.

A friend of mine had a sport bike, and loved Armor All.  However, the
first time he did his brand new bike, he didn't realize he was
effectively putting oil on the part of his tires that contact the ground
on hard turns.

Fortunately, he was doing around 25 MPH when he realized his mistake.
Didn't do too much damage to the bike, but it hurts when the bike is
only two weeks old.

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:30:01 PST
From: "Paul Christenson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Armorall oops

>I forgot to mention, Armorall on motorcycle tires makes for
>considerably reduced traction on pavement.

Armor All also will attack certain kinds of rubber.  Even if you use it
strictly on the sidewall, it can cause the tire to fail.

If you *must* Armor All the tires, use the stuff designed specifically
for tires.

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:57:41 PST
From: "Paul Christenson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Cycle Show in San Francisco THIS WEEKEND!

I'm planning on being there... Anyone else???
Maybe a gathering of listers on Saturday or Sunday afternoon?

URLs for the show:
http://www.motorcycleshows.com/sf.cfm (SF specific)
http://www.motorcycleshows.com (General)




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