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klr650-digest       Wednesday, December 2 1998       Volume 01 : Number 382




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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:52:42 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR  - Dual sporter on the road in Chile

List:  OK, he's riding an old BMW R80 GS, but he's a good lad on an adven=
ture we can all appreciate. Story Leavesley (of Boulder, CO) is spending =
the next few months wandering around in South America, trying to send occ=
asional trip reports.

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Hello all!  Just a quick note from a B&B in Villarica.  I tried to send
email using my Palm but I haven=B4t had any luck.  The phone connection i=
s
working but the modem isn=B4t picking up.  I=B4ll try again on another ph=
one.

Just wanted to let you all know that I made it to Chile, and even managed
to clear the bikes through customs in just a couple of days.  We left
Santiago yesterday and stayed at a really neat B&B last night.  Tonight
we=B4re staying in Villarica at the base of an active volcanoe.  Tomorrow=
 we
head south to Puerto Montt where we=B4ll catch the ferry to Chiloe.  No
problems so far and southern Chile is beautiful - reminds me of Oregon an=
d
Colorado together.

I=B4ll try to send more details later.  Don=B4t respond to this email sin=
ce I
will be long gone tomorrow.  Adios!

Story
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*         LA TORRE SUIZA - South Chile's friendliest Backpackers!        =
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*   For more information, see our Webpage at http://www.torresuiza.com

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:04:48 PST
From: "Juan Villarreal" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) (nklr)I know those words

"It's Swedish, for crissake.  Den somsig i leken ger han f=E5r leken
t=E5la"

Hey....  I recognize those words!  Those are the lyrics for the first
line of Def Leppard's "Rock of Ages!"  Cool!

Juan Villarreal, '97 (rockin' to the oldies)


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:05:04 PST
From: "Juan Villarreal" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) (nklr) I know those words!

"It's Swedish, for crissake.  Den somsig i leken ger han f=E5r leken
t=E5la"

Hey....  I recognize those words!  Those are the lyrics for the first
line of Def Leppard's "Rock of Ages!"  Cool!

Juan Villarreal, '97 (rockin' to the oldies)


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:20:33 -0700
From: "Steven \"scooter scum\" Johnson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR-Dream garage

Oh this is just too good to miss out on.

TY350 - Come on where are the trials nuts?
KLX250/321 - Perfect woods machine
KX250 - Nothing like being on the pipe of a motocrosser
KLX650 - When it runs, I'm soooo happy! - would consider a XTZ660
African Twin - Big adventure tour (ok I would accept a Cagiva 900 grand canyon.)
Yamaha R1 - Obscene speed
K1100RS - True mileage monster

Steven "scooter scum" Johnson
'95 KLX250/321 Just call me yellow britches
'95 KLX650C - cheaper than therapy
'95 K1100RS - mileage monster
'92 TDM850 - dual sport of course

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:27:55 -0700
From: "Bruce Hedquist" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Jet sizes & Needles

Ken: assuming you are speaking of a Dynojet kit.  Remember, your 148 Keihin
jet is not the equivalent of Dynojet's numbering system.  I believe it makes
reference to this in the install sheet.  Also, richer ain't necessarily
better!!  You need the proper air/fuel ratio for best performance, not just
"more gas".

I suggest you call Dynojet.  My guess is their largest jet will be MORE than
enough.  If you are at a higher altitude, it may even be too much.  They
would have an opinion and could better explain it.


Subject: (klr650) Jet sizes & Needles


>My existing main jet was labeled 148. So I'm going to try the jet labeled
150. I don't plan on using the 136 that came with the kit, so I was thinking
about drilling that out to 1/16" and using that. Is this working for anyone?
I don't care about fuel economy, as long as I can get 150 miles from a tank.
>
>The jet kit comes with a needle and 2 washers and 2 circlips. It sounds
like you put the circlip on groove 4 (stage2), and then lay the washers on
top of that. So you end up with an extra circlip?
>
>Comments welcome
>
>Thank You
>
>CC Kenny
>98 A12
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:37:39 -0800
From: Rob Gendreau <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) PIAA headlamp bulbs

Somebody mentioned in previous posts that they had a PIAA lamp with 80/80
wattage that performed like a 80/135 or something in terms of
candlepower. I've looked in all my local dealers and nobody has such a
beast. Anybody know where I could mailorder one? Prices?

Thanks mucho.

Rob

Rob Gendreau
Oakland, California
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:01:10 -0600
From: "rg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: NKLR-Dream garage

IN PARTICULAR ORDER, LIST 10 BIKES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR GARAGE.

1.   xx KLR650                             have one, utilitarian perfection!
2.   89 PC800                              going to get one, very
interesting functional bike
3.   9x GS1000PD                      want one, in the yellow jacket trim
4.   9x  Honda CB1000               need one, a very friendly beast, try it,
you'll like it.
5.   79 Goldwing                          on my second one, stripped.  A
classic every year.
6.   any modern enduro
7.   83 SilverWing 650 Interstate had one, great minimalist  Wing, just
enough.
8.   83 Honda CBX Interstate     want one, would put a picture of the engine
on my desk.
9.   71 Bultaco Matador  ISDT    had one,  great DS of its day
10. 71 Yamaha DT1 250             had two,  KLR of it;s day, great raw
material for people on a budget
11. 54 Matchless 500 cc Single had one, dirt tires and all.  My first bike
in '63, KLR of the 50-60's.

Sorry, I have to have at least 11.  As Willy Rogers said: "I never met a
bike I didn't like, and need."

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:40:55 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Welcome back Mr. T...

Mr. T is back guys and gals...Struth!

Kurt

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:38:11 -0700
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) PIAA headlamp bulbs

- -----Original Message-----
From: Rob Gendreau <[e-mail]>
To: KLR LIST <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 8:38 PM
Subject: (klr650) PIAA headlamp bulbs


>Somebody mentioned in previous posts that they had a PIAA lamp with 80/80
>wattage that performed like a 80/135 or something in terms of
>candlepower. I've looked in all my local dealers and nobody has such a
>beast. Anybody know where I could mailorder one? Prices?
>
>Thanks mucho.
>
>Rob
>
>Rob Gendreau
>Oakland, California
>[e-mail]
>
>
Try:

http://www.overlander.com/bulbs.html

PA 15060
H4 60/55 watt XTRA bulb (equivalent output to regular 110/100 watt bulb)
Platinum with Super White coating  38.00

PA 15660
H4 60/55 watt XTRA bulb (equivalent output to regular 110/100 watt bulb)
Platinum with Super White coating-2 PACK 70.00

PA 15080
H4 80/80 watt XTRA bulb (equivalent output to regular 135/115 watt bulb)
Platinum with Super White coating 43.00

PA 15680
H4 80/80 watt XTRA bulb (equivalent output to regular 135/115 watt bulb)
Platinum with Super White coating-2 PACK 80.00

Kurt
Bountiful, Utah

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:03:21 -0800
From: "Eric Rhoads" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (klr650) PIAA headlamp bulbs

- ->>Somebody mentioned in previous posts that they had a PIAA lamp with 80/80
>>wattage that performed like a 80/135 or something in terms of
>>candlepower. I've looked in all my local dealers and nobody has such a
>>beast. Anybody know where I could mailorder one? Prices?


>>>>>>>>>>   Rob try this.....I think Fred can get them too.
>
>http://www.autobahnint.com/AIM_store/Html/PIAA/PIAA_HTML/PIAA_Bulbs.htm
>
>eric
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:41:02 -0800
From: "Rob  Clement" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Swedish Horsepower?

On a Kawasaki website somewhere in Europe I saw 48 hp for the KLR650.  With
the lean jetting, the California model is probably a bit less (although I
think Germany has a lower power output than anywhere in the U.S), t that can
be fixed!  (Not that I'm advising anyone to do it, but jetting and an
opened-up air filter and muffler probably add 5-10% to the bike's midrange
and top end power output.)  Even so, the Swedish bike would be incredibly
fast, faster than our KLR650s, and it looks good to me, with the 23-liter
tank!    Rob C.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Charles Milliken <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 3:58 PM
Subject: (klr650) Swedish Horsepower?


That Highland Motors V-twin is pretty impressive! That bike should lead the
other manufacturers into the future. I was right about to buy a 99 KLR and
I'm starting to have second thoughts after seeing that. The Horsepower
figure is throwing me off. I have a spec sheet from Kawasaki and have
visited their web site and never seen mention of the bikes horsepower? Does
anyone know where I can find some boneified specs on that? How does the KLR
stand up to that 920 V-twin? Ah, that must feel awesome!

And while I'm on the wire.. Any riding buddies in Beantown looking in?
Chalz.

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:52:44 -0800
From: "Rob  Clement" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Pipe gasket

Yeah, I had to buy a new one too.  It's too expensive, and it's delicate,
but the stock lead/graphite gasket does the job.  Mine hasn't leaked since I
replaced it 2500 miles ago.    Rob C.    A12
- -----Original Message-----
From: J.Taylor <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 8:45 PM
Subject: (klr650) Pipe gasket


>For those engaged in or about to engage in pipe/exhaust conversions, I
>suggest (from first hand experience) either preserving the gummy black
>gasket that comes out of the stock exhaust pipe or ordering another when
>you order your pipe. I'm referring to the one that makes up for the
>differences in diameter between the head pipe and the cannister. I
>damaged mine partially and it eventually fell apart during operation. I
>tried to replace it w/ various forms of "exhaust repair" materials (2
>types)to seal the leak. Nothing stayed for any length of time I guess
>because of a higher degree of heat on the MC head pipe vs a car(?). The
>Cobra I am using did not come w/ a new gasket. Kaw dealer here wants $14
>for a new one. If other exhausts come w/ replacements, all the better.
>Would like to hear what other pipe users have experienced. I can confirm
>that when my atempts to replace the gasket failed/melted and the pipe
>union began to leak air, the bike ran like crap (sputtered, misfired,
>idled poorly-you get the idea.)
>
>HTH
>
>Jake in Jacksonville
>
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:28:00 -0800
From: "Rob  Clement" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR (DUAL SPORT SCOOTER)

Reminds me of a Vespa test ride I took with my girlfriend.  I dumped the
clutch to impress her, and we wheelied over!  I took off slower, after that.
(At the time, I rode a Cushman iron scooter, with an 8-hp Post Office
Cushman 4-stroke engine, and centrifugal clutch.)
- -----Original Message-----
From: David M. King <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR (DUAL SPORT SCOOTER)


>> Last weekend I was in Key West with six friends for a little R&R. There
>> is a Honda dealer there who also sells a lot of scooters, and in his
>> showroom window was a Dual Sport Scooter. The only thing about itthat
>> looked dual sport was a pair of hand guards. No knobbies or anything
>
>Hey I thought all scooters were dual sport!  When I was a teenager I used
>to ride my dad's Vespa P200E on the road, off the road, or anywhere
>else I could get away with!
>
>That Vespa was pretty neat actually.  I learned the hard way that you
>don't stop while facing uphill on a steep slope covered in gravel. :o
>
>David M. King
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:59:08 -0800
From: "Rob  Clement" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR-Dream garage

I've thought about this a few times, over the past few years:
1) KLR650 A12 '98 (I have): General purpose, do-anything fun bike.
2) KLR250 '97 (I have): Fun in the dirt.
3) Kawasaki Voyager 1200 VXII '98 (I have): Better than a Gold Wing (I've
had both.).
4) Honda Trials 350: (for excitement at sane speeds; I could ride it to the
events.)
5) Honda CX650 Sport Turbo: (a classic, compact marvel of engineering; I had
a 500)
6) Kawasaki Concours ZG1000: (for when I want to be faster than on my
Voyager)
7) Triumph Bonneville 750: (for old times' sake)
8) BMW K-series 1200: (their newest one is (?) 130 hp, and should last
forever)
9) Honda Pacific Coast 800: (another classic, very convenient except for
servicing)
10) Suzuki GSXR(?)1300 (their new superbike): (I'd like to see 150mph
occasionally)

Rob C.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Alex Jomarron <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 6:49 PM
Subject: (klr650) NKLR-Dream garage


>All this sniping has this question begging to be asked to really reveal our
diversity.
>IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, LIST 10 BIKES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR GARAGE.
>(of course I'm waiting for some smart ass to list 10 bikes of the same
marque!)
>
>Here's mine:
>
>1998 Kawasaki KLR 650
>1986 Moto Guzzi Lemans
>1999 BMW R1100S
>1988 (?) Honda VF1000R
>Suzuki RG 500 Gamma
>1998 Kawasaki Vulcan
>BMW R60/2
>tricked out BMW R80G/S
>Ducati 851
>1986 Kawasaki 600 Ninja
>
>wait there's more.............
>
>:-)
>
>Alex Jomarron
>Oak Park, IL
>
>

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:55:13 -0500
From: "J.Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Welcome back Mr. T...

Welcome back,....from where?

Jake

Kurt Simpson wrote:
>
> Mr. T is back guys and gals...Struth!
>
> Kurt

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 08:03:59 -0500
From: "J.Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR-Dream garage

I'm noticing alot of PC800's showing up in peoples lists. The MC press
always said it took a special breed to identify with the PacCoast, I
just never knew it was this radical underground faction known
collectively as the KLR listers. I guess its safe to come out of the
closet and confess my affections for the "Steroid Helix" now...

Jake in Jax (who likes the PC for its trunk, not its chest)

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:20:53 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fwd: (klr650) NKLR-Dream garage

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In a message dated 98-12-02 08:01:41 EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I'm noticing alot of PC800's showing up in peoples lists. The MC press
 always said it took a special breed to identify with the PacCoast, I
 just never knew it was this radical underground faction known
 collectively as the KLR listers. I guess its safe to come out of the
 closet and confess my affections for the "Steroid Helix" now...

 Jake in Jax (who likes the PC for its trunk, not its chest)
  >>

I too noticed the PC800 showing up in the lists.  I sold my 89 to get my KLR.
The only two things that I didn't like and sent me to the KLR side of the
house are these:

 1) Fuel capacity is too small for the bike.  Something like 4.2 gallons.  If
I could havae carried something like 6 gallons, it would probably still be in
my garages.
 2) When I walked away from the bike, I didn't turn around to look at it.  I
don't know what word you would use for this, I call it character....  I enjoy
looking at the KLR...

When I bought the PC I was very close to buying a TransAlp but I let a
friend's opinion of the bike sway me.  NEVER AGAIN!!  (He doesn't like the KLR
either, but life's tough sometimes.)  I would have a PC800 again, it's a great
sport-tourer.  That bike flat hauls in the mountains, trust me on that one.

Just my $.02 worth.

MN Ron (had to let you know I'm still here....)

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I'm noticing alot of PC800's showing up in peoples lists. The MC press
always said it took a special breed to identify with the PacCoast, I
just never knew it was this radical underground faction known
collectively as the KLR listers. I guess its safe to come out of the
closet and confess my affections for the "Steroid Helix" now...

Jake in Jax (who likes the PC for its trunk, not its chest)


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