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klr650-digest        Saturday, October 17 1998        Volume 01 : Number 307




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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:23:43 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) OIL

R. Kaub wrote:  So.......

> Put in 2.6 liters of good old Pennzoil 10w40 (or whatever)

Definitely not Pennzoil.  The amount of paraffin in Pennzoil is inappropriate
for motorcycle engines, and will probably lead to excessive deposits.

Dr Robert

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:33:43 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Definitely not KLR

Two cents' worth:  as long as we don't start getting appeals for orphanages
in Africa, the added banter of the KLR list, albeit not always technical,
is usually worth the effort of having to empty the Recycle bin a little
more often.

Dr Robert
- -

Todd Emsley wrote:

> Bob wrote:
>
>         I vote for the Leaderless model.  I don't think the list really
> needs anyone telling it what to say and how to say it.
>
>                 And I applaud him.
>
>                                         Todd   A11
>                                         Delete button functional

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:09:59 -0700
From: Brian Bonenfant <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Air Box Modifications

    Someone briefly mentioned an air box change to improve air flow. I
was wondering if someone could enlighten me in regards to the procedure.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:31:31 -0400
From: "Karl V. Huebner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) How to adjust the carb....

All:

I have gone through archives 187 - 306 and have not found the answer to my
question...


My KLR 650 (6.4 k miles) runs what appears to be very lean.  It will not
idle, starts extremely rough, and when you take the choke off, it dies.  The
exhaust pipe seems to be turning brown.

I've pulled the carb off and cleaned everything I can find.  Pulled the
"main jet" out.

It ran smoother when I used the choke (the rpm's did not fluctuate as much)
but died immediately after I took the choke off (it did not matter if I
twisted the throttle or not)

Please help... I am extremely mechanically challenged...


 Karl V. Huebner
Juvenile Correctional Officer, Ohio Department of Youth Services
MSgt, 445 SFS, WPAFB, Ohio
Private Investigator, Weidner and Associates, Inc.
R11 GS, R100 GS, KLR 650

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:43:52 -0700
From: Mike Magier <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) aligning rear wheel

Hey all -
I have heard frequent reference to the "straight edge technique" for
aligning the rear wheel when adjusting chain tension. It's even in the
owners manual. I've never seen it done. Perhaps someone could give a uick
description for me and others? Thanks in advance

Mike Magier
89A12

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:41:35 -0500
From: Rick <" kd4iyc"@airnet.net>
Subject: (klr650) oil filter

Can someone tell me the part number for a Fram oil filter, I have a 1999
KLR650.

Thanks

Rick - Decatur, AL
'99 KLR650

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:54:25 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) How to adjust the carb....

- -----Original Message-----
From: Karl V. Huebner <[e-mail]>
To: KLR list <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:36 PM
Subject: (klr650) How to adjust the carb....


>All:
>
>I have gone through archives 187 - 306 and have not found the answer to my
>question...
>
>
>My KLR 650 (6.4 k miles) runs what appears to be very lean.  It will not
>idle, starts extremely rough, and when you take the choke off, it dies.
The
>exhaust pipe seems to be turning brown.
>
>I've pulled the carb off and cleaned everything I can find.  Pulled the
>"main jet" out.
>
>It ran smoother when I used the choke (the rpm's did not fluctuate as much)
>but died immediately after I took the choke off (it did not matter if I
>twisted the throttle or not)
>
>Please help... I am extremely mechanically challenged...
>
>
> Karl V. Huebner
>Juvenile Correctional Officer, Ohio Department of Youth Services
>MSgt, 445 SFS, WPAFB, Ohio
>Private Investigator, Weidner and Associates, Inc.
>R11 GS, R100 GS, KLR 650
>
>
>

Karl,

Just what this list needs....a juvenile corrections officer.  JUST KIDDING!!

Sounds like you have a pilot jet plugged or the air screw is out of
adjustment.  The pilot jet is located inside the float bowl on the bottom
side of the carburetor.  You will have to remove the float bowl and the
floats.  You can do this by loosening the clamps on the carb and rotating
the carb until you can see the bottom.  The large (main) jet is the lower of
the two jets in the float chamber.  The smaller jet is long and skinny is
the one that is most likely plugged.  Remove the pilot jet and see if it is
plugged.  Be careful what you clean this jet out with as the brass is soft
and easily damaged.  If the pilot jet is clean and you still have the
starting problem then I would suspect the air screw.  In front of the float
bowl there is a small plug about 1/4".  If it hasn't been removed already
you will need to drill a small hole in the center of it being careful not to
drill into the air screw below the plug.  Screw in a small sheet metal screw
into the hole you drilled and pull out the plug with a pair of pliers.  You
should see the air screw in this hole where the plug was.  Carefully screw
in the air screw till it lightly bottoms out and then back it out about 2 to
3 turns out.  This should fix your starting problems.

Good luck!

Fred Hink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                    Arrowhead Motorsports
http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html
                           435-259-7356
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:02:58 -0600
From: Bogdan Swider <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) To: "'[e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>

Eldon also said that he couldn't understand why Tim's cam chain loosened
unless he removed the entire tension gizmo not just the bolt & spring.
Forgot to include that in my first post. Sorry. To the list police: I've
confessed my crime. Do what you will with me but leave my family alone.
Bogdan

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:04:57 -0700
From: Brian Bonenfant <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) oil filter

CH6070

Rick wrote:

> Can someone tell me the part number for a Fram oil filter, I have a 1999
> KLR650.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rick - Decatur, AL
> '99 KLR650

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:08:16 -0400
From: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) New in Mexico

Just returned from the copper Canyon area of Mexico and enjoyed great
weather and fine riding.

Tried out a new route I have been looking at on the tropo maps of
Mexico. There is a trail/road from Casas Grande to Madera across the
Sierra Madre Mountains - about 85 miles of primitive trail that is
passable - great ride.  Eldon Carl was with me and he had his wife on
the back of the KLR650 - did a great job! If anyone is interested in
this route I will be glad to pass on details and GPS coordinates along
the way.

Made one interesting discovery on this trip - Viagra is available in
Mexico without a prescription!  Not cheap though!

I plan on writing a short article about the small village in the bottom
of the Copper Canyon - Batopilas - Very interesting 300+year old Spanish
mining town.  Took some pictures I hope will turn out well to post with
the article.

Tomorrow, the KLR650 group will be leaving Deming, New Mexico for the
same trip.  I understand from Pancho Villa Moto Tours that there are 14
bikes on the ride.  Hope some of them will write up their adventures.

Seems like the LIST is going along about the same - seems like the same
discussion on LIST protocol never ceases!

If you have not looked at the KLR Web Page Classified page recently,
take a look, I just posted a bunch of interesting stuff for sale and
wanted.

Finally, I learned a lesson I thought I would not have to learn over
again.  I wear full Aerostich gear every time I ride on dirt.  In
Batopilas I decided to ride four miles out a dirt road to look at an old
church - jeans and short sleeve shirt.  Guess what, I fell after hitting
a ditch and getting run into the stone wall cliff.  Trip to the local
clinic repaired all but could have been worse - don't we ever learn!

Good to be back.

Bill

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:00:05 -0400
From: Todd Emsley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Air Box Modifications

Brian,

            Some people just leave the lid off. I have drilled around
60  1/4" dia. holes all over my airbox.  (note: DO NOT drill the area
BETWEEN the filter and the carb!!!) Some people I have heard talk about
fewer 1" dia. holes.  You can also put little foam "filters" in the 1"
holes if you wish. They are an aftermarket item. I think the ventilation
along with a recalibration of the carb makes a huge difference.


Todd   A11   pullin' like hell

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:26:43 +0100
From: "Eric Dietiker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Panic stop, Crash Report

I am glad you came out of this OK! Definitely smart to keep the bike
upright, and not lay 'er down. You didn't mention the front brakes, though.
Do you think the sliding rear end distracted you from modulating the front
brake (since we were on the topic so recently)?

Also, before you replace the forks, you may want to see if you can get them
straightened. The bend doesn't sound too bad.

Eric.

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:20:11 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) aligning rear wheel

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Magier <[e-mail]>
To: KLR650 List <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:47 PM
Subject: (klr650) aligning rear wheel


>Hey all -
>I have heard frequent reference to the "straight edge technique" for
>aligning the rear wheel when adjusting chain tension. It's even in the
>owners manual. I've never seen it done. Perhaps someone could give a uick
>description for me and others? Thanks in advance
>
>Mike Magier
>89A12
>
>

The chain tightnening reference marks on most bikes are not that accurate.
You can use a string (needs two people to do this) or a 2X4 or something
else that is straight.  Stretch the string or lay the 2X4 next to the rear
tire up about 6 inches or so.  You need your straight edge to touch the rear
tire on the sides, front and rear.  With the straight edge out past the
front tire measure the distance to the side of the front tire.  Do this for
both sides.  Your bike needs to be straight up and down, either on the
center stand or someone holding it up.  If the distance to the front tire on
both sides is the same then your rear tire will be tracking straight behind
the front.  If it is not then you will have to correct the rear adjusters on
one side to make the front measurement the same.
Have I totally confused you now?  It ain't that hard.

Ever looked at another bike from the rear and noticed that the rear tire
wasn't tracking straight behind the front?  Now you know one of the reasons
why.

Fred

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:33:44 -0600
From: "J. P. Zucht" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Sidi Boots

Doug wrote:

> I did tell my wife that I ordered some boot for the Alaska trip, She
> said, yea you need some good boots, what were $60??
>
> Yea, sure I said.   I'll wait until the Discover bill get here.


Hey, Doug, that's the way !  "Forgiveness is easier to get than
permission"  is a principle that I also need to apply at times...damn our
two-wheeled vices !   heh heh.
- --

hungree

[e-mail]

VROC 72
WOTI
Guardian Whale
South Sask Beemer

J. Philip Zucht, Regina, Saskatchewan ... Canada, eh!

86 CH250 Elite  ...  87 1200 Aspencade  ...  89 650 KLR

I'm not heavy for my height, just short for my weight...

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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:57:49 -0700
From: "Kathleen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Sidi Boots--S.A. Comment NKLR--Caution!

>Doug wrote:
>
>> I did tell my wife that I ordered some boot for the Alaska trip, She
>> said, yea you need some good boots, what were $60??
>>
>> Yea, sure I said.   I'll wait until the Discover bill get here.
>
Maybe you should plan to be in Alaska when the bill comes in????  :-)

Kath

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:45:16 -0600
From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR....chatty...

>>Right now, I vote for the Leaderless model.  I don't think the list really
>>needs anyone telling it what to say and how to say it.  Thanks.
>>Bob Kaub

>I agree with Bob, so to the idea that it is my show...not so. In fact,
every so

>
>Here is my take on the issue. First, the idea of whether the list should be
>"narrow" to topic is a legitimate one. I work everyday to try to sort
through

>all of the challenges for my time and attention, I can appreciate that each
of
>us is doing that and so, for some, they may wish the KLR list to stay
>"on-topic."
>
>I have lurked and been active on a few lists and all of them have >In the
first 9 months of this list many regular contributors have come and gone.
>Most have gone away because of changes in interest or other things going on
in
>their lives. Some have gone away because they have been hurt (anger masks
hurt
>IMHO)...that is regrettable. But we have had less acrimony than most lists
by
>far.

>I am one of the worst offenders of going off-topic, I do so purposively
because
>the humor and color and getting to know some of the regular's personalities
>makes the enterprise worthwhile to me. I couldn't justify the daily
>of my humanness. Because I have chosen to do that, I have

>The digest users are stuck with sifting through every message. But, if
people
>will put NKLR in the subject line of their off-topic posts good email
programs
>allow for filters that can send NKLR messages to the Deleted Items folder.
>
>Kurt (an apostle for tolerance)
>


 List,
    For the past 3 to four weeks, I have not been able to get on the
computer long enough to post some things I`ve been doing on the ongoing "MY
KLR will be the perfect bike" project (hopefully before I wear it out)
because of work, family,and bike demands. I don`t like to post till I`ve
read all others, in case there has been a related post or question that I`ll
be able to address at the same time and save Lister`s time.
   Last weekend I read through over 600 posts (KLR and Dust, mostly KLR )
and have been trying to catch up this week. Tonight I went through another
289. I am an active person without a lot of time lately, and still I manage
to read almost every post I receive. Why? Because of the love I have
developed over the past 20 years for DS riding, and as of this year, for my
A9.
  It would be easier to just read only the specific topics I`m interested
in, but then as Kurt said, I would miss out on the humanity or personal
aspect of this particular List. Because of our common interest in the KLR, I
am interested in everyones' posts, because I learn a lot and also I might be
able to assist someone else through something I`ve already experienced.
Sure, it get`s off topic sometimes, but as individuals, our personalities
leak out into our posts and we tend to run off on tangents, like friends
wanting to share something of interest to them with others.
   I realize that there are those who don`t have time to read "everything"
and are purely interested in the KLR650 info only, and for their benefit, we
really need to apply the NKLR when appropriate, so as to insure they don`t
get frustrated and leave a very valuable and informative resource. And yes,
I do have a life, a very busy one, but willing to sacrifice time to read
everything because I enjoy it and because if a Lister thinks it`s worth
posting, then I`ll give him or her the benefit of the doubt and read it.
Yes, sometimes it might have been something so far off, it wasn`t worth the
effort, but I`m not going to miss something that turns out to be a
worthwhile contribution either.
   I enjoy a little foray into the netherlands periodically, it breaks
things up a little and keeps things fresh. As a matter of fact, for the
first time, I`m going to forward something that was sent to me tonight that
has nothing to do whatsoever with a motorcycle, because some of you might
get a kick out of it, although it might be associated with some of us after
a hard ride.
   Keep the posts coming, but be considerate of others also.
Now let`s all hold hands and sing , "We are the World,......................

 Skip (who now may have time to post "How to screw up a KLR")

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