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klr650-digest        Wednesday, August 12 1998        Volume 01 : Number 178




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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:26:06 -0700
From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: (Now) Anyone from the EAST.  EAST coast    get-together.

At 07:00 PM 8/11/98 -0400, James Naus wrote:
>I live in Florida.  Make that North Florida.
>
>Tom and I have been talking about an East Coast Get-Together ride for
>over a year.  Now is the time to do it.  I was thinking we could crash
>the Transalp Rally.  Here is the info.  Please let me know if anyone is
>interested in going.  If we get a group together I will call Peter to
>see if it is OK for some KLR's to come or if we get enough people we
>could do our own thing.  It is in North GA  and October is a great time
>of year.
>
>1998 - Transalp Rally - Clayton, GA - October 2-4
>http://members.aol.com/desmo907/TA1998.html


    Like the idea, but tis the silly season at work and I will
not be likely to get free by that time.


- -Tom
'96 KLR 650

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:25:55 -0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Transalp rally in Clayton, GA

I plan on attending, I've emailed Peter regarding.  Anyone out there from
north GA?  I'm in Alpharetta area.  Some friendly bloke on a KLR passed me
on Sunday, 8/2, on 400 southbound late in the afternoon.  Unfortunately, I
was still in the break-in period, so I had to keep puttin'. @$$@$$%!!!!!
Nothing quite like seeing that odometer click 1000 miles!

To you guys who've had a KLR for a while, does the need to giggle
uncontrollably ever stop?

Cheers.....

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 20:56:38 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Dual sport for Women

>>The Yamaha TW200 looks like a good dual sport ride for women.   Has =
electric start, not sure about its top end though...>>

Sorry, I disagree.  Had one, been there, done that...  A GREAT bike but
with lots of limitations: POOR brakes, really wrapped up at 65mph
indicated, lacks power and has very poor off-road suspension.  It is,
however, VERY stable, especially in sandy soils, is low to the ground,
and is a gas to ride...slowly.  A much better choice is the KLR 250,
although it has no electric start.  A DR also is a good choice.  -Ves
A12

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:30:44 -0600
From: "Joshua Sammons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Front Sprocket Question.

Hey,
I was at R&S Kawasaki in Albuquerque today and asked the mystery question,
which side of the sprocket goes where?  The lip side faces the engine.  I
also asked about the countershaft leak.  It might be too much chain wax on
the chain, but I doubt it.  I plan on not lubing the chain for a couple of
days and waiting to see what happens.  At least the countershaft isn't bent
(I take it that it is noticeable if I had.).  Thanks for the help.

Josh '92KLR650

PS- Was anyone on this list riding on I-25 north of ABQ today?  Also, was
anyone riding in Santa Fe with an Orange helmet?

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 98 21:36:22 PDT
From: "Marick Payton"   <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Tires

After weighing all the advice from the list and talking to a couple
of local GS riders who were very enthused about 'em, I bought the
Avon Gripsters. Look like they'll stand up a lots of freeway miles
and still provide good dirt (if not mud) traction. Any my local
dealer gave me a really good price on them.

Marick

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:04:35 +0100
From: "Eric Dietiker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR engine/carb/exhaust mods

Hi Wilfred, I installed a White Brothers 38mm Mikuni carb kit, SuperTrapp
IDS and K&N air filter. Contrary to the advertising, it was not an out of
the box solution since the jetting was so far off. I am still working
towards the proper jetting. (This probably takes me longer than most folks,
since I don't get much time to fiddle with my bike.) At this point I feel I
have gotten significant power improvements across the board, at the expense
of drivablility. However, the personality of the bike is completely changed.
I think because of the carburetor throttle response is much more direct. So
the whole bike has a raw, rebellious edge to it - personality! If I can ever
arrange it, I would like to have the bike jetted properly on a dyno. At that
point, I'll report my findings here. For now my only measurement is the
wheelie-o-meter.

I've also added Progressive Suspension springs & Race Tech gold valve (must
haves), a MAP Engineering front disk (pricey, but brutally effective, and
gorgeous), and a PS rear shock (dissapointingly harsh for street riding, but
much better controlled than the stock waterbed.

Eric.
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>From: Wilfred Gaube <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: (klr650) KLR engine/carb/exhaust mods
>Date: Wed, Aug 12, 1998, 1:14 AM
>

>Hello all,
>
>I have been planning to do some mods to my 93 KLR650 and was wondering what
>people out there have done to theirs. Including what worked and what did
not!
>
>Currently I have a dynojet jet kit, k&n air filter, and a cobra pipe. The
>bike dynos at 35HP at the rear wheel. I have seen a klx650 making 45+hp,
>but I don't know if a KLR can make that kind of power and be reliable.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Wilfred
>
>

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:59:30 -0400
From: "Darren Koepp" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Tires

- -----Original Message-----
From:    [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Hamilton, Peter
F
Sent:    Tuesday, August 11, 1998 4:05 PM
To:    [e-mail]
Subject:    RE: (klr650) Tires

And what about them Avon Gripsters?  I've heard they're good mostly street,
some dirt.  They're cheap, too.

- --Pete, also ready to buy some tires


I just put Avon Gripsters on the rear the other day.  $65.  Only had them on
for 200 miles or so too early to really play with them.  Drove through a
highway construction site, a lot of mud and ruts.  They did okay but spun
out in the slick mud spots.  On highway they are great so far, seem okay in
rain too.  They are forecasting rain for the next few days so I will learn
more then.

Darren / 98 KLR / 6000 / Central Virginia

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 01:34:14 -0600
From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: Mirrors

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, August 08, 1998 8:24 AM
Subject: Mirrors


>Yes, I think a lot of KLR riders would appreciate a post, even a long
>one, about reducing mirror vibration.  An alternative would be an article
>in the KLR650 DSN.  I can get along without a clear image but the left,
>the one I use the most, is much worse than the right and I'd like to
>reduce that.  Thanks for your offer.  -Ves  A12



  First, let me explain why I went the route I did. When I said "in the the
practice of vibration isolation (not reduction) you must have deflection" I
meant the part you want vibration free must be free to exist and move
independently of the vibration source or vibration transmitter ( i.e...
handlebars, mount, mirror stem etc.). Damping  doesn`t  do that, it damps
some vibration and that would be : putting substances in the handle bars,
rubber o-rings or grommets around the mirror stem, weight on the mirrors
etc.. This practice of placing absorbers along the vibration path in-line
with the mirror helps some but the density of the absorber will only work
within certain frequency ranges and therefore you will have damped vibration
at a certain rpm and if you prefer the mirrors to vibrate less at some other
rpm, you must change the density of the absorber you are using. Also in this
practice, you still have direct transmission contact with the mirror.
  Aircraft engine mounts and flight instrument mounts do not allow any metal
to metal contact and are pure isolators.
  The KLR650 mirrors are built as follows; from the stem up you first have
the aesthetic cover nut (my own term as thats all it really does) . If you
screw this down all the way you will see the true tension nut on the
threaded stem. You back this down to release the tension on the spring in
the mirror housing. This also has some limited effect on the vibration as
loosening it some will allow some minute damping effect on the mirror but
don`t get it so loose the mirror won`t stay in place, experiment with it. As
you go up the stem you have a spacer support that is splined in the center
as the stem is also splined here. This support is scooped to match the pivot
ball above it. Past this point you are in the mirror housing. The stem
passes through another slotted pivot ball that is flat on top and has the
tension spring resting on it. The stem passes through the spring (about 1")
and above and through the spring the stem is threaded for the flange nut
that is above the spring and holds all this crap together. As you can see as
you look at your mirror, the only way to effect any repairs or replace any
parts is to cut a hole in the raised portion on the back of your mirror. In
other words, it was intended for you to buy a new mirror anytime you damaged
yours.
  I tried putting rubber spacers between every connecting part in the
assembly with limited effect.
   I put rubber aircraft isolators between the base and the mount (similar
to the Honda and Suzuki dampers) but to isolate the broadest range of rpms,
the rubber had to be too soft to keep the mirrors steady at  high
peeds.( The moment arm was too long, allowing the mirror too much leverage).
  That`s when I decided to shorten the moment arm by moving my isolation
point up higher. I cut my mirror stem at the point midway between the bend
and the base of the aesthetic knurled nut. I then placed a piece of thick
walled 3/16" ID neoprene hose (reinforced) on the lower stem, extending just
past the bend (it was a bear to slide on but you want it tight and don`t
lubricate it) with enough extending above the cut end of the stem to allow
the hose to reach the base of the tapered  aesthetic nut when I slid the
upper mirror stem into the hose. Before I pushed the mirror into the hose, I
put a small disc of rubber inside to prevent the two cut halves from being
in direct contact. At this point it`s a little wobbly and won`t hold up to
wind ( it will swing the mirror around, I tried it) and as a temporary fix
to experiment, I got a 1 1/2"  long piece of aluminum (any rigid medium will
work) 1/16" thick and cut it in width so that it would just be shy of
completely wrapping around the section of hose where the two  stem ends
meet. I placed a small hose clamp just above the cut and one just below and
screwed the clamps down extremely tight to get the wrapped piece of aluminum
as rigid as possible. I test rode at various speeds and rpms and was
extremely happy with the results. I found I have a small range of rpms (3400
to 3800) that I get some fuzziness and found I could move that range by
loosening or tightening the clamps. I left it at that range because I`m
least there than at others. At cruising speed (65 to 75 mph indicated) it is
crystal clear and the same is so at the lower end.
  To tackle the ugliness of the hose clamps, I`m getting a piece of solid
steel rod 2" long, drill  a hole slightly smaller than the hose, off center
of the rod, so I can then slit the rod and tap 3 small holes in the meaty
portion of the rod , counter sink one side slightly and tap the other so the
rod can be screwed tight with Allen cap screws and it will all be flush and
smooth and then paint it black. It shouldn`t look to bad.
  The only part of this that will really be time consuming will be the clamp
I`m going to make.
   I suggest anyone interested in doing this, wait until I finish the clamp
and insure that everything works right. Also, I`d be a fool to guarantee
that this would work on everybody's bike, but I don`t see why  it wouldn`t.
  Another reason to wait is that another idea I was trying is just about
finished and if it works well, it will look a little better than this
method.
I would hate to see some of you cut your mirrors in half and then decide you
didn`t like the look. You may even have a better idea on the clamp part, if
so let us know.
  One lister asked if I had tried the stuff in the handlebar thing. No I
have not, for reasons I won`t go into now, but  that  done in conjunction
with the Honda or Suzuki mirror dampers might work well .
   Sorry this was so long and I hope it was detailed enough to let those
interested, figure out how I  was doing this. I`m sure most of you found out
more about KLR650 mirror construction than you would have ever cared for.

                            Skip

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 00:53:28 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Tires

>MT21s:  Good grip, short life. True or false?
>


So, what is the verdict, is this true or not?  Fred, what is your oppinion
on this, think it will last 4000 with 50/50 riding?

- - JD
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:49:19 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: (klr650) RE: (Now) Anyone from the EAST.  EAST coastget-together.

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In a message dated 98-08-11 22:50:33 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<<  put 850 miles on the bike, and I really admire
 the guys that went to Tierra del Fuego, or those guys that put 500/1000
 miles on one day on their KLR's ..... I was doing 200/250 a day and my ass
 hurt !!! It really does !!!
 But I might be able to do it in Oct ... after my ass recoups from this
 little trip .... :) >>

Now you know why there is so much discussion about seats on this list.  I ride
a Corbin saddle and it is so much better than stock....  And I know there are
other options.  They are all much better than the stock saddle, so I would
highly recommend that you look into the options if you plan to make any rides
much over 100 miles at a time.  IMHO of course.

MN Ron

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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:42:12 -0500
To: Bill Wright <[e-mail]>
From: Steve Rottenberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: (Now) Anyone from the EAST.  EAST coast
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James and Bill,
    I just started a new job, I might be able to take a couple of days
off in October and go to Nort GA. I just came back from a mini FL tour ...
from Tampa, to Daytona, Saint Augustin, Jacsonville and then down to Palm
Beach and back to Tampa. I put 850 miles on the bike, and I really admire
the guys that went to Tierra del Fuego, or those guys that put 500/1000
miles on one day on their KLR's ..... I was doing 200/250 a day and my ass
hurt !!! It really does !!!
But I might be able to do it in Oct ... after my ass recoups from this
little trip .... :)

>> James
>> Tallahassee, FL
>> '95 KLX650C

>Bill Wright
>Hotlanta, GA.
>98 KLR 650 - "Special K" - 14k miles


Steve Rottenberg
Tuca en IRC (Undernet)
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