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klr650-digest         Saturday, August 1 1998         Volume 01 : Number 161




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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:51:03 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (klr650) Vista Cruise  (NKLR......NVC)

On 7/31/98, [e-mail] wrote:
>Hey Ron-  Who's the hand model pictured in your Acerbis/Vista jpg?
>P.S.  Those hand guards look great!  Didn't know they came in black.

 Darrel the hand belongs to a world famous hand model.
 Unfortunately I couldn't pay the full fee, so I can't disclose
 the name. So whadda ya think......should I add the winglets
 to the hand guards to match my helmet?

  CA Ron (even with a wing I haven't got a prayer)

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:53:17 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Acerbis Hand Guard (SKLR)

On 7/31/98, [e-mail] wrote: snip
>>>P.S.  Those hand guards look great!  Didn't know they came in black.
>
>########### hey I agree...if the bike had come with those (Acerbis)
>on it I might not have taken the originals off!

 In my case Eric there wasn't any choice. The dirt chewed up my
 OEMs every chance it got.....

  CA Ron (who's used to getting chewed on)

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:54:26 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (klr650) Vista - Friction Lock

  On 7/31/98, [e-mail] wrote:
>Does the Vistacruise, when on, prevent you from closing the throttle?
>Does it lock it, or just increase the friction to the point it stays in
>position, but can still be moved?

 Scott the friction is adjustable. Tightening it as far as I can
 with my fingers, it won't budge from vibrations or bumps.
 Even without disengaging it, I could still force the throttle
 closed in an emergency. I usually run it a little looser than
 that, so that it takes a good jolt to slip it's grip, and easily
 returns to idle when released.

 CA Ron (who's always trying to get a grip)


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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:56:15 -0600
From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re:(NKLR) BMW Rally, Rallye, and other non list stuff

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: BMW Rally, Rallye, and other non list stuff


>
>
> Excellent post Skip. Lister Darrel also went, but he took his other
> bike;).  Said he was able to see about half dozen klrs as well.
>
> You're right, I was very interested in the Rallye. I even
> considered purchasing one. Did most of my initial training
> in the Rallye's newer siblings, the Aerospatiale Tampico,
> Tabogo, and Trinidad. Sorry to hear about the ditching. Any
> preliminary data on the cause?  The pilot and/or passenger
> sustain any injuries? If not, what other nightmares besides
> the insurance, ntsb, faa paperfest will there be? On a similar
> thread, was the twin ever found, the one that was lost near
> your airport earlier this year?
>
> What brand of non-Corbin saddle do you have? I don't recall
> you saying.
>
> Glad to hear you're re-wired. Your posts are so much faster
> with the 56k modem that I find myself speed reading them;)
>
> CA Ron (welcome back bird of a feather)
> P.S. Don't let the faa examiner who lurks on the list hear you
>       say this......
>>As you can see I`m very conscientious
>>about my work related responsibilities.
>

Ron,
 I  was wondering if Acerbis makes a spoiler for the handguards in your
pictures, for winter use? Those really are good looking guards.
  As to your question, no, nobody was injured except my poor Rallye. I`m
still in mourning. The only reason I sold her to this guy was so she would
stay local and I could fly her. He ran out of fuel, and this thing holds 78
gallons. We fished her out several days ago and will be finishing the
investigation when I get her to the hangar next week. Reams of paperwork to
finish up. I hope they jerk the guy`s ticket.
Thanks for your concern.

                    Skip  (my tears are shorting out my keyboard)

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 03:25:24 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (klr650) Acerbis Spoilers

On 7/31/98, [e-mail] wrote: snip
> I  was wondering if Acerbis makes a spoiler for the handguards in
>your pictures, for winter use? Those really are good looking guards.
>..[..]...He ran out of fuel, and this thing holds 78 gallons...[..]...
>..[..]...I hope they jerk the guy`s ticket.
>            Skip  (my tears are shorting out my keyboard)

 That boy must've been real dedicated to those flour sacks;)
 Acerbis does indeed make a spoiler to fit the handguards.
 I'm going to order a pair for the month that it falls below
 70 degrees here. The very thought sends a chill down my spine.

 CA Ron (who's spoiled dancing year round with ol' Sol in CAVU)

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:58:33 -0700
From: "Dean Harrison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?

I'll give your break in procedure a try. This is strickly a front brake
issue- the rear brake seems better than the VFR's. I've cleaned the disc
and lightly scuffed it. The front brake lever is relatively firm. If no
help, I'll switch back to stock pads which should eliminate the pads as a
problem. If this doesn't work I'll check out the caliper pins as you
mentioned.

Thanks, Dean in Seattle

- ----------
> From: skip faulkner <[e-mail]>
> To: KLR650 Page <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?
> Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 11:38 PM
>
>
> wanted/needed
> >to ? No matter how hard I hit this brakes I never feel they're even
close
> >to impending lock up. If that's the way the are, fine, I just need to
know
> >it's a limitation of the bike and that there isn't something wrong with
the
> >caliper/disk. It's got SS lines, EBC black pads- both new.
> >
> >Thanks, Dean in Seattle 94 KLR650, 95 VFR750
> >
>
>
> Dean,
>  I have no problem locking my  tires up since I switched to SS line. I
was
> required to when I took an MSC course. I wan`t to be able to lock mine up
> when I choose to, especially off road.
>    It sounds like your pads aren`t broken in properly. Is the front brake
> lever firm when you apply pressure? What about the rear? Is there any
> fading? Make sure your calipers are able to slide on the pins and not
bind.
>   What was your break-in procedure? Ever since I started breaking in my
pads
> on my bikes and vehicles the way  I  am required to break in aircraft
disc
> brakes, I`ve never had any problems. I break in my pads by dragging my
> brakes with enough pressure to feel the brakes grabbing while keeping
enough
> throttle to keep me going about 20mph. You must have enough pressure to
get
> the pads hot. I do this for about 8 to 10 seconds, release pressure,
speed
> up and let the pads cool off about 5 to 10 minutes. I then speed up to
about
> 25 or 30mph and hit the brakes; if I can`t lock them up, I do the
procedure
> again, but it usually works the first time unless you`ve glazed the pads
by
> not getting them hot enough, which it sounds like you`ve done. If the
pads
> have been glazed, you simply repeat the procedure and make sure you get
the
> pads hot enough to break the glaze.
>
>                                   Skip  (who gets glazed very easily)
>
>

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:42:10 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Chromed?

Good grief!  I couldn't stand having a chromed exhaust on my KLR.  I'd
rather find an olive drab and paint the whole bike in camouflage or leave
the fool color alone.  Sorry, to each his own.  -Ves A12

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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:15:43 -0400
From: Johnny Knight <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Motorcycle vs automotive oils

I think I'll stick to the advise given in the article to stay with an SG
or SF rated oil for my motorcycle of 10W30  or higher and stay away from
the SH and SJ oils until the motorcycle manufacturers recommend them...

Johnny

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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 20:17:27 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) chain adjust advice sought

Alex Jomarron wrote:

> The last chain bike I owned had a centerstand.
> Do you have the rear wheel off the ground when you adjust?
> If so, how do you keep the rear airborne?

Not necessary to have the wheel off the ground.
The eccentric adjusters are good for this.

Mister_T

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 07:32:09 -0700
From: "Dean Harrison" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Motorcycle vs automotive oils

I'm coming to same conclusion as you. I'm not going to scrimp a few bucks
considering how much you have to loose.

- ----------
> From: Johnny Knight <[e-mail]>
> To: Dean Harrison <[e-mail]>
> Cc: KLR650 list <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) Motorcycle vs automotive oils
> Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 7:15 AM
>
> I think I'll stick to the advise given in the article to stay with an SG
> or SF rated oil for my motorcycle of 10W30  or higher and stay away from
> the SH and SJ oils until the motorcycle manufacturers recommend them...
>
> Johnny

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 00:33:23 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?

Dean Harrison wrote:

> Can you lock up your front wheel on pavement at 30 mph if you wanted/needed

No way on my single-piston caliper 600. Even on wet roads I'd have
trouble locking the front.
Must have been an early attempt at anti-lock brakes.
My guess is the KLR has quite adequate brakes for offroad use, although
I don't expect to be able to do slow stoppies downhill ala Crusty
Demons 1 video.
I've used factory pads, Dunlopad and SBS with the same result.
I would expect better things from a twin pot 650 caliper, though.

[...]
> caliper/disk. It's got SS lines, EBC black pads- both new.

EBC black, eh? I use these on my CBX750F and I find they take quite
a while to bed in.
I'd try the EBC green but they don't make them for my '84 vintage CBX.

The poor little KLR disc has a lot of leverage put on it by the big
front wheel.
Just running a smaller front wheel in motard style should improve
braking.

Mister_T

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:38:37 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Dean Harrison <[e-mail]>
To: skip faulkner <[e-mail]>; KLR650 Page
<[e-mail]>
Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?


>I'll give your break in procedure a try. This is strickly a front brake
>issue- the rear brake seems better than the VFR's. I've cleaned the disc
>and lightly scuffed it. The front brake lever is relatively firm. If no
>help, I'll switch back to stock pads which should eliminate the pads as a
>problem. If this doesn't work I'll check out the caliper pins as you
>mentioned.
>
>Thanks, Dean in Seattle
>


You might try cleaning the brake pads with some steel wool or scraping them
with a knife if they have a shiney black layer.  You have to be careful of
what gets on the rotor.  Any oils or polishes are not good for the brake
pads.

Fred  (save the glazing for the doughnuts)

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98  10:09:24 CST
From: "John W. Houchins  --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) nklr

From:  John W. Houchins  --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)
Howdy,
Last weekend, Fri 24th, bueatiful day, going on a weekend
camping, fishing trip by myself to Northern NE, I took a corner too fast
for the gravel and augered in. Wasn't going too fast but the beast landed
on my rt. leg. Tibia and fibula fxs, would't set with a closed
reduction, so yesterday I got a titanium nail in the tibia, so it should
be ok. So now I get to set and heal. Deja vu Gino!

I'll be off the e-mail for a while as its at work. Doing ok, now on the
recovrey road. Oh yeah, the bikes ok, bent foot pag and a few scratches.
I'm going to have to make up a better story,like a kitten was crossing
the road or something.

John Houchins (wishin I had kept the rubber side up)
up)

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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 08:17:48 -0700
From: Scott Eldredge <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V1 #160

Is the stock KLR chain an O-ring chain?

Scott

klr650-digest wrote:

> klr650-digest         Saturday, August 1 1998         Volume 01 : Number 160
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:27:34 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Dale Borgeson <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) Re: Dynojet Stage 1/Stage 2 jet kit
>
> >Dynojet Stage 1/Stage 2 jet kit.  I 'm hoping its just a
> >jet/needle/spring swap.
> >Any drilling of slides or other permanent changes involved?
>
> You have to drill out the vacuum lift hole in the bottom of the slide.
> They supply the drill bit.
>
> I just installed the Stage 1 kit and it does run much better. Easier to
> start and no lean spots. The gas mileage is about 5 mpg lower but that's
> with only one tank of gas. There was a fair amount of variation in mpg
> with the stock carb setup so I'll run a few more tanks before I draw any
> conclusions.
>
> The only other difference I notice is a very distinctive odor comming from
> the exhaust that wasn't there before. It smells sort of like unburned gas
> but I can't say for sure ad I've not put it on an analyzer.
>
> Cheers
> - --
> Dale Borgeson   [e-mail]        Minneapolis, MN U.S.A.
> "Motorcycle Touring For Beginners" at www.visi.com/~dalebor
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 08:59:48 -0700
> From: "Dean Harrison" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) Motorcycle vs automotive oils
>
> I know, you're saying, not this again. But since this month's Motorcycle
> Consumer News raises the issue again, let me be the one to start it. Have
> any of you read this article? For the uninitiated, a 1994 article by said
> magazine could determined no difference between motorcycle specific oils
> and automotive oils WITH  a major factor in the discussion that the oils
> evaluated were SAE grades SF and SG. Oils, in general, have change grade to
> SAE SH and SJ and there has been significant discussion in the past whether
> the same conclusions could be drawn with respect to the new grades.
>
> I'm not going to type the entire article but will give you the first
> paragraph of the conclusion section:
>
> Though the preliminary test results were not particularly scary, they were
> at least worthy of concern- especially when you realize these are
> short-term test results, and that the relatively minor ill effects noted
> could be severely magnified by long-term usage. In addition, it should be
> noted that ongoing new-engine test being conducted by Honda, Yamaha,
> Kawasaki and Suzuki all seem to indicated increased problems with clutch
> slipping and gear pitting when using the new oil formulations .
>
> What do you think, especially those who've read the article?
>
> Dean in Seattle 95 VFR, 94 KLR650
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:18:40 -0600
> From: Brian Arend <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) airbox mods
>
> i'm a newbie on the list. does anybody out there
> have any suggstions on airbox mods? i'm looking for more
> HP. running a K&N airfilter, and an IDS supertrapp
> on a  stock 95 klr 650. riding primarily between 5000-10,000 ft
>
> thanks
> brian arend
> masonville co.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 21:08:06 +0000
> From: mary hupfer <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) Re: suspension settings
>
> If anyone saved the long bit about suspension settings from a couple
> weeks ago, could they send it to me please - I meant to save it.
>
> Mary
> 92 klr650
> 89 nx250
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:40:19 -0700
> From: "Dean Harrison" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?
>
> I know complaining about brakes is a relative thing comparing them to what
> you're used to riding. So let me ask it this way:
>
> Can you lock up your front wheel on pavement at 30 mph if you wanted/needed
> to ? No matter how hard I hit this brakes I never feel they're even close
> to impending lock up. If that's the way the are, fine, I just need to know
> it's a limitation of the bike and that there isn't something wrong with the
> caliper/disk. It's got SS lines, EBC black pads- both new.
>
> Thanks, Dean in Seattle 94 KLR650, 95 VFR750
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:43:02 -0400
> From: "Rick Clarke" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) Jets.
>
> >
> > >
> > >>Is this true?!?!?
> > >Dynajet    136 = .053
> > >                140 = .056
> > >                150 = .060
> > >
> > >Stock Keihin    148 = .056
> > >
> > >As you can see, Jake's specs are different than Chadd's...
>
> > As I said I used Calibrated pin gauges from our dimensional lab at work.
>
> Flow is also dependent on the length of the hole and the surface
> finish. Assuming that different brand jets can be compared by
> diameter alone is a weak assumption.
>
> When the bike is running wide open at mid to high rpm, you're running
> on the main jet only. The needle should have no effect under these
> conditions. Pick a main jet that gives you the best wfo performance,
> then start fiddling with the needle. At mid throttle settings the
> needle and main jet both have an effect, so get the main right first,
> then start playing with the needle.
>
> If you think you have the carb too lean, try putting tape over about
> 1/3 of the air cleaner. This will richen up the system. If the tape
> makes the bike run better, then richen up the carb a tad. If it runs
> worse, try leaning it out. (Dynojet guys told me this trick.)
>
> - -Rick
>
> R.P.Clarke ([e-mail])
> "What traffic?"
> RTP, NC, USA    DoD#5811
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:43:23 -0600
> From: "Debbie Sammons" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) exhaust guard paint removal
>
> Has anyone on the list taken the exhaust guard nearest to the header off,
> and removed the paint.  I was thinking about removing the paint and trying
> to polish it to a shine.  Think if would work.  Thanks to Kurt & Chris for
> helping with my Front sprocket prob!
> Josh '92 KLR650
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 04:36:20 +0300
> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?Qt1ST0wgU0FZ?=" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Ynt: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?
>
> Dean,
> Mine is a 97 KLR with 4K miles on it. I still use the original brake pads
> and disc. I'm afraid of locking the front wheel always especially if I ha=
> ve
> to use two fingers instead of one. What I think is that the stopping powe=
> r
> of the brakes are sufficient for the machine if you consider the type and
> class of it.
> Birol(Takes of his helmet and puts on surgery mask)
> - -----=D6zg=FCn =DDleti-----
> Kimden: Dean Harrison <[e-mail]>
> Kime: KLR650 list <[e-mail]>
> Tarih: 01 A=F0ustos 1998 Cumartesi 02:40
> Konu: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?
>
> >I know complaining about brakes is a relative thing comparing them to wh=
> at
> >you're used to riding. So let me ask it this way:
> >
> >Can you lock up your front wheel on pavement at 30 mph if you wanted/nee=
> ded
> >to ? No matter how hard I hit this brakes I never feel they're even clos=
> e
> >to impending lock up. If that's the way the are, fine, I just need to kn=
> ow
> >it's a limitation of the bike and that there isn't something wrong with =
> the
> >caliper/disk. It's got SS lines, EBC black pads- both new.
> >
> >Thanks, Dean in Seattle 94 KLR650, 95 VFR750
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 05:10:31 +0300
> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?Qt1ST0wgU0FZ?=" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Ynt: (klr650) Chains....
>
> Chain wax? What is it? A special grease? How is it applied?
>
> Birol
> - -----=D6zg=FCn =DDleti-----
> Kimden: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
> Kime: Robert frey <[e-mail]>; offroad ridenet list
> <[e-mail]>; klr 650 club list <[e-mail]>; Du=
> st
> List <[e-mail]>; ThumperList <[e-mail]>
> Tarih: 04 Haziran 1998 Per=FEembe 09:20
> Konu: Re: (klr650) Chains....
>
> >At 08:34 PM 6/3/98 -0400, Robert frey wrote:
> >>OKay guys, I'm opening another can of worms....
> >>
> >>O-Ring chain. Lube or not to lube....
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Lube, but with something light that
> >wont attract grit. I have become a big fan of
> >Chain Wax, m'self.
> >
> >
> >-tom
> >'96 KLR 650
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:21:08 -0700
> From: Scott Eldredge <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V1 #159
>
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> Does the Vistacruise, when on, prevent you from closing the throttle? Does it lock it, or just increase
> the friction to the point it stays in position, but can still be moved?
>
> The BMW stories have become boring. I don't think there's much point in continuiing with these discusison
> unless the ethnicity and parentage of all the riders are  brought in. Reminds me of the book Animal Farm.
>
> Scott Eldredge
>
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> Does the Vistacruise, when on, prevent you from closing the throttle? Does
> it lock it, or just increase the friction to the point it stays in position,
> but can still be moved?
>
> <P>The BMW stories have become boring. I don't think there's much point
> in continuiing with these discusison unless the ethnicity and parentage
> of all the riders are  brought in. Reminds me of the book <I>Animal
> Farm</I>.
>
> <P>Scott Eldredge
> <BR>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:39:36 -0700
> From: "Darrel & Deanna" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (klr650) Vista Cruise  :p
>
> Hey Ron-  Who's the hand model pictured in your Acerbis/Vista jpg?
> Darrel
> P.S.  Those hand guards look great!  Didn't know they came in black.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:24:03 -0700
> From: "Eric Rhoads" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) Vista Cruise  :p
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrel & Deanna <[e-mail]>
> To: Redondo Ron <[e-mail]>
> Cc: KLR list <[e-mail]>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 7:39 PM
> Subject: (klr650) Vista Cruise :p
>
> >Hey Ron-  Who's the hand model pictured in your Acerbis/Vista jpg?
> >Darrel
> >P.S.  Those hand guards look great!  Didn't know they came in black.
> >
> >###########      hey I agree...if the bike had come with those (Acerbis) on
> it I might not have taken the originals off!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 00:09:14 -0700
> From: Tom Simpson <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: Ynt: (klr650) Chains....
>
> At 05:10 AM 8/1/98 +0300, B=DDROL SAY0FZ wrote:
> >>
> >> Lube, but with something light that
> >>wont attract grit. I have become a big fan of
> >>Chain Wax, m'self.
>
> >Chain wax? What is it? A special grease? How is it applied?
>
>         It is sold as a motorcycle chain lube in most motorcycle shops
> around here. It is a thin liquid that contains something akin to
> Alox, a waxy lubricant used on cast bullets, among other things.
> It sprays on liquid, then dries. Nothing sticky for grime and sand to
> stick to. I have been using it for about two years now and it=20
> is neat. Ran out of Cnain Waz recently and went back to Cal-Guard
> for a while. The chain immediatly loaded up with sand and grit to
> the point it resembled a grinding compound more than a lubicant.
> No more Cal-Guard for me, thanks.  :)
>
> - -Tom
> '96 KLR 650
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:33:42 -0600
> From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) 20 wt fork oil  20W20
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dean Harrison <[e-mail]>
> >To: Dale Borgeson <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]
> ><[e-mail]>
> >Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 3:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: (klr650) Progressive spring part number
>
> >>2. I went to buy replacement fork oil for the spring change. Stock was
> >>10W20. Golden Spectro only makes 20W20 and since I'm a fat guy, that
> >>sounded good to me. But then the question arose- what the hell is 20W20?
> Is
> >>that the same as straight 20 weight fork oil? I don't get it (it's cold-it
> >>acts like 20 wt, it's hot-it acts like 20 wt??).
> >>
> >>Thanks, Dean in Seattle
> >
> >>----------@@@@@@@@@    .....yep, I think you have it correct...it's a 20
> >wt.....
> >I believe the 'W' after the first 20 means it's designated for Winter use.
> >eric/R
>
>  You got close. In multi-viscosity oils, the weight or number preceding the
> W is the weight the oil is supposed to simulate in cooler temps (winter) at
> start up or at ambient temps, and the number following the W is the weight
> the oil simulates as it is heated up or as ambient (engine) temps increase.
>   In other words, in the case of fork oil, when cool or as you first start
> to ride, the oil will act like 10wt. (in the case of 10w20) till heat starts
> to build due to the movement and action of the fluid as the the shock is
> worked. As the temp of the oil starts to rise, it will take on the
> properties of a 20wt. oil.
>   The reason for oils, fork and other, that have what is called single
> number multi designations is that the manufacturer intended for the
> lubricating or dampening properties to remain stable or uniform at all temps
> rather than be lighter at first and then act as a heavier oil.
> This is more common in oils used for dampening and force applications
> (hydraulic) than for lubrication.In the case of 20w20, your shocks should
> have the same dampening action at start up as they would 30 miles later.
>
> - ---------------------------------Skip---------------------------------------
> - ---------------
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:03:33 -0600
> From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) exhaust guard paint removal
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Sammons <[e-mail]>
> To: KLR650 List <[e-mail]>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 1998 6:46 PM
> Subject: (klr650) exhaust guard paint removal
>
> >Has anyone on the list taken the exhaust guard nearest to the header off,
> >and removed the paint.  I was thinking about removing the paint and trying
> >to polish it to a shine.  Think if would work.  Thanks to Kurt & Chris for
> >helping with my Front sprocket prob!
> >Josh '92 KLR650
> >
> >
>  Debbie,
>   I removed the paint on my "95" with jellied paint stripper and finished it
> up with MEK (methylethylketone) because it conveniently was in my hangar but
> both can be gotten at most hardware stores, even Wal-Mart. If you choose
> this method, wear gloves and have adequate ventilation, especially with the
> MEK, although you won`t enjoy it as much (MEK really lightens my mood).
>   I advise against most abrasive methods if your going to polish afterwords
> because it will take you longer for the shine, although I`m sorry to say I
> think your shine (if you achieve it) will be short lived without a
> protective finish, which most would not stand up to the heat.
> Have you considered having the piece chromed? It would last longer. Check
> the yellow pages for plating or metal finishers. You also could call a
> couple of local rod shops, they might know the closest platers.
>   If you choose to chrome and can`t find anyone to do it, e-mail me and I`ll
> give you a couple of places you can mail it to ( I do a good bit of plating
> on my aircraft engines).
>      Good luck.
>
> - ------------------------Skip (MEK is my
> friend)------------------------------------
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:38:52 -0600
> From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (klr650) How good are KLR brakes?
>
> wanted/needed
> >to ? No matter how hard I hit this brakes I never feel they're even close
> >to impending lock up. If that's the way the are, fine, I just need to know
> >it's a limitation of the bike and that there isn't something wrong with the
> >caliper/disk. It's got SS lines, EBC black pads- both new.
> >
> >Thanks, Dean in Seattle 94 KLR650, 95 VFR750
> >
>
> Dean,
>  I have no problem locking my  tires up since I switched to SS line. I was
> required to when I took an MSC course. I wan`t to be able to lock mine up
> when I choose to, especially off road.
>    It sounds like your pads aren`t broken in properly. Is the front brake
> lever firm when you apply pressure? What about the rear? Is there any
> fading? Make sure your calipers are able to slide on the pins and not bind.
>   What was your break-in procedure? Ever since I started breaking in my pads
> on my bikes and vehicles the way  I  am required to break in aircraft disc
> brakes, I`ve never had any problems. I break in my pads by dragging my
> brakes with enough pressure to feel the brakes grabbing while keeping enough
> throttle to keep me going about 20mph. You must have enough pressure to get
> the pads hot. I do this for about 8 to 10 seconds, release pressure, speed
> up and let the pads cool off about 5 to 10 minutes. I then speed up to about
> 25 or 30mph and hit the brakes; if I can`t lock them up, I do the procedure
> again, but it usually works the first time unless you`ve glazed the pads by
> not getting them hot enough, which it sounds like you`ve done. If the pads
> have been glazed, you simply repeat the procedure and make sure you get the
> pads hot enough to break the glaze.
>
>                                   Skip  (who gets glazed very easily)
>
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