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klr650-digest          Sunday, July 12 1998          Volume 01 : Number 128




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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:22:20 -0700
From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Cheap tire recommendations/archives

>3. Here's the one I really need advice on. I know you hear it weekly on
>this list about which tires are best. I want to know what can I get that's
>reasonable but CHEAP. On someone's web page they said a good 50-50 tire was
>the IRC GP-1. I called MAW and they say they don't make a tire for this
>bike. Anybody know if that's true? Otherwise, what can I get in the more
>modest price range?
>
Hey Dean, MAW doesn't know what they are talking about.  You want the IRC
GP-1 3.00-21 on the front, and the IRC GP-1 5.10-17 on the back.  You can
have SCC order these and mount and spin balance them for just a little more
than you'd pay for the tire at MAW, plus they will back their work, In case
something happens to the tire.  Make sure you just bring in the wheels, or
they will charge more, and if you sweet talk them, they usually knock $$ off
the price.  Anyway, these are the tires I'm running, and I'm happy with.
You could also check out the Maxxis Dual Sport tire.  These are also cheap,
are a 50/50, and are supposed to be made with a harder rubber compound so
they last longer.

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:53:04 -0700
From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Suspension settings

>The KLR IS NOT A DIRT BIKE! Its a hand full off road. It is good on
>fireroads etc, but if your looking for single track trail action get a
>different bike. It makes no sense to set up a street bike for off-road use,
>too heavy!
>
>MudDog
>KTM RXC 620
>Still-Broken-In-The Garage-From-The-Trailride 93 KLR650


Funny, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a big fat duck.  KLR,
looks like a dirt bike, set up like a dirt bike, sounds like a dirt bike,
but not a big fat dirt bike?  I think that it depends on your level of
experience and riding ability and your physical size and strength.  At 6'2",
225 lean and mean pounds, I have no problem with my KLR on the same type of
trails that I used to ride on my RM 125, YZ 250, or CR 480 (oldie but a
goodie).  But like my Isuzu Rodeo compared to my old Jeep CJ, I can go
almost everywhere the CJ went (Mind the scratches in the paint!), but I
can't get there as fast.  I can still take the whoops on the KLR that I took
with my MXers, but not as fast.  You just have to adjust your riding to
compensate for the extra weight.  Interestingly enough, on the track, I was
much faster on the 125 and 250 than the 480, but out in the open desert, the
480 was AWESOME!  Hey, you want to ride a dirt bike offroad, then buy a dirt
bike, then buy a truck to get the bike there...You want to ride to the dirt
then go dirt riding, get a KLR.

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:55:50 -0700
From: "Eric Rhoads" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Kickstands

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Kickstands


>Jeff, this method might work well but it does nothing to keep us in good
>graces with others who might want to close OHV areas.  It only gives them
ammo
>when they see large ruts dug in the sand, dirt or whatever.  I love to go
off
>road just as much as the next guy but we are in a sensative sport.  We must
go
>out of are way to prove that we respect and care about the land and others
who
>use it.  Hey, if I could I would be rippen through woods, desert, etc with
out
>a care in the world but unfortunately life doesn't work that way.  We have
to
>do all we can to protect and save the shrinking land that we do have access
>to.  If we didn't COHVCO or The Blue Ribbon Coalition wouldn't exist.
>
>Walter
>
>####    I understand and agree with what you say. However, your approach
accepts an inevitability which I think it should not, and intrinsically
limits itself to a purely paliative relief of symptoms.   I'd say we should
deal with the problem, not symptom.
The idea that "life doesn't work that way" is not a good justification for
giving up on the
basic issue, since it's completely within our power to remedy.
.....just a thought.
ericR

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:57:42 -0700
From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) fork oil level

>
>> Am installing Progressive springs this weekend, but not sure how much
fork
>> oil to add. The manual states with legs compressed the level should be
>> 170mm (approx. 6.9 inches) from top of leg. The article on the web site
>> states the oil level should be 2 inches from the top of the leg with full
>> compression.  Hmmmm, big discrepency here! Would rather ask first than
>> blow out fork seals. Thanks in advance.
>> Jeff Moorbeck
>
>Jeff,
>The KLR650 supplement to the shop manual says to fill the forks to 190
>+/-2 mm (don't ask me how they came up with such a ridiculous
>tolerance) with forks compressed and main spring out. This is what I put
>in with my progressive springs, and I've run about 5000 miles without
>problems or poor suspension handling.  Seems to me that what progressive
>states is a bit high, plus it would probably require buying a second quart
>of fork oil (I'm to cheap to do that).  There was a discussion on this a
>while back, but I don't remember the verdict.
>
>Hope this helps.


I went between the Progressive and the Kawa levels, and measured my fork oil
level at 6 inches, a nice even number.  No problems at all, and still leaves
me room to adjust the level for tuning.  (although I'm happy with the level
where its at.)

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:27:37 -0400
From: "Robert frey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Cheap tire recommendations/archives

Cheng Shin makes a good cheap tire, good for 2500 miles on a KLR and will
hook up alright on turf and sandy conditions...
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey L. Walker <[e-mail]>
To: Dean Harrison <[e-mail]>; KLR650 list <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, July 12, 1998 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Cheap tire recommendations/archives


>>3. Here's the one I really need advice on. I know you hear it weekly on
>>this list about which tires are best. I want to know what can I get that's
>>reasonable but CHEAP. On someone's web page they said a good 50-50 tire
was
>>the IRC GP-1. I called MAW and they say they don't make a tire for this
>>bike. Anybody know if that's true? Otherwise, what can I get in the more
>>modest price range?
>>
>Hey Dean, MAW doesn't know what they are talking about.  You want the IRC
>GP-1 3.00-21 on the front, and the IRC GP-1 5.10-17 on the back.  You can
>have SCC order these and mount and spin balance them for just a little more
>than you'd pay for the tire at MAW, plus they will back their work, In case
>something happens to the tire.  Make sure you just bring in the wheels, or
>they will charge more, and if you sweet talk them, they usually knock $$
off
>the price.  Anyway, these are the tires I'm running, and I'm happy with.
>You could also check out the Maxxis Dual Sport tire.  These are also cheap,
>are a 50/50, and are supposed to be made with a harder rubber compound so
>they last longer.
>
>Jeff
>
>

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:28:52 -0000
From: "Mr. Mendez" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(klr650) Suspension settings

On 7/12 Jeff wrote:

> Hey, you want to ride a dirt bike offroad, then buy a dirt
>bike, then buy a truck to get the bike there...You want to ride to the
dirt
>then go dirt riding, get a KLR.
>
>Jeff

Spoken like the spirit of the KLR
I fI'm mistaken, then I ask; What's the whole idea of a DS???
(KLR650 being the most 50/50% according to all info I've come aroun so far)

"Everyone-is-entitled-to-an-opinion-Mendez"

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:34:12 -0000
From: "Mr. Mendez" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(klr650) Kickstands , keep in mind.....

It's a kickstand issue not a kickeachother issue
By the way, looove the Sunday-vocabulary being used

J.Mendez

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:28:51 -0400
From: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Question on Center Stand

Reid,

I have submitted your question to the KLR650 LIST for a possible answer.

If you are not aware of the KLR650 LIST you can find out information
about signing on at:

http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page60.html

Check it out!

Bill

           Name: Reid Douglas
 E-mail address: [e-mail]
   Homepage URL:
       Comments:
Question after installation of Dual-Star centerstand on 96
KLR650/lowered w/Quality R+D links, and forks adjusted.
1) Technique for deploying stand w/o help of gorilla....what is the
trick?

RD


           Date: Sat Jul 11

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:50:27 -0700
From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Kickstands

>Jeff, this method might work well but it does nothing to keep us in good
>graces with others who might want to close OHV areas.  It only gives them
ammo
>when they see large ruts dug in the sand, dirt or whatever.  I love to go
off
>road just as much as the next guy but we are in a sensative sport.  We must
go
>out of are way to prove that we respect and care about the land and others
who
>use it.  Hey, if I could I would be rippen through woods, desert, etc with
out
>a care in the world but unfortunately life doesn't work that way.  We have
to
>do all we can to protect and save the shrinking land that we do have access
>to.  If we didn't COHVCO or The Blue Ribbon Coalition wouldn't exist.
>


Hey, I didn't say not to fill the hole in when you're done with it, I guess
I assumed that most people would.  Actually, the hole can perform a double
duty.  Whey you're done parking your bike in it, you can use it as a cat
hole to relieve your bodily functions in.  (when there isn't a convenient
Port'o let nearby).  Hey, I'm the last guy you want to argue green issues
over, because you'll get no argument from me, mostly.  Except where they
closed my favorite trail to mountain bikes, on the premise that they cause
erosion, while continuing to allow horses on the trail.  Everybody knows
that horses cause just as much, if not more erosion, and fecal problems too.

Jeff

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