home
***
CD-ROM
|
disk
|
FTP
|
other
***
search
/
ftp.xmission.com
/
2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar
/
ftp.xmission.com
/
pub
/
lists
/
klr650
/
archive
/
v01.n068
< prev
next >
Wrap
Internet Message Format
|
1998-05-03
|
40KB
From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest)
To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: klr650-digest V1 #68
Reply-To: klr650
Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com
Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com
Precedence: bulk
klr650-digest Monday, May 4 1998 Volume 01 : Number 068
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:53:42 -0700
From: "Robert Morgan" <robertlmorgan@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Headphones
Debbie
The recent RIDERWearHouse catalogue....Aerostitch folks;
www.aerostich.com/aerostich discusses this at length as well as related
philosophic musings on page 80. Cool catalougue...even cooler stuff. Snail
mail address, Eight South 18th ave West,
Duluth, Mn. 555806-2148
PHONE...1 800 222-1994
FAX....218 720-3610
get your motor runnin
head out on the hiway
peace Morgan
born to be wild in San Diego
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 18:04:51 -0400
From: Brian Roth <rothb@mci2000.com>
Subject: (klr650) New helmet
Hey gang,
Seeing as how my Shoei RF200 is 6 years old now, I'm thinking of getting a
new helmet. Anyone out there have any recommendations? Right now, It's a
toss up between the Shoei X-SP and the RF-800.
Thanx!
Brian C. Roth
COG #1722, AMA #394789
Middletown, RI
92 Concours
97 KLR 650
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 08:41:18 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <tedp@replicant.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: (klr650) New helmet
Brian Roth wrote:
> Seeing as how my Shoei RF200 is 6 years old now, I'm thinking of getting a
> new helmet. Anyone out there have any recommendations? Right now, It's a
> toss up between the Shoei X-SP and the RF-800.
If you have a Shoei shaped head, you might as well stick with theirs.
In ads I've seen for some Shoei helmets, they've claimed significant UV
absorbsion through the visor. I haven't seen any other helmet makers
pay any attention to this useful point.
I currently use an AGV Quasar, which does a good enough job.
However, if AGV can't convice me their visors can block a lot of UV,
then I'll probably get a Shoei next time that does.
Mister_T
- --
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\
| RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) |
| tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au |
\|_________________________________________________________________|
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:29:47 -0400
From: John Buffett <jrbuffett1@sympatico.ca>
Subject: (klr650) 93 KLR650 Value ?
Hi All:
This might make for a lively disscusion. This is not a for sale ad.
I was wondering if I could get some feedback as to value of my 1993
KLR650. It has less than 15,000 km. and has been maintained by myself
and I am a fanatic about oil changes. It is in very good condition but
in need of new chain and sprockets. It has been dropped once or thrice
(after all it is an off road bike) but you would not know it to see it.
It was mostly street and concession road driven. I love the bike but
may have to sell to pursue other interests. * No, I am not getting
married * ;-:>
If anyone has any feedback I would appreciate it as I like bikes but I
am not enough of an enthusiast to know the price range this bike would
have on today's market.
Please state Canadian or U.S. dollars.
J.B.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 19:55:47 -0400
From: Peter Dahlheimer <dahlheim@UMDNJ.EDU>
Subject: (klr650) hard-as* seat pan
help!
i can't get staples into my seat pan! not even with a heavy-duty
craftsman (thank god it's craftsman
and i can get my $100 back) electric staple gun...
how the hell do i get my seat back together?
_pete
97KLR650
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 02:53:57 +0300
From: "=?iso-8859-9?B?Qt1ST0wgU0FZ?=" <saymer@superonline.com>
Subject: Ynt: (klr650) IMS Footpegs
I've been a KLR 650 rider for 6 months and actually I'd been until two weeks
ago since a stupid driver didn't stop at red light and hit me from left at a
speed of 40-50 mph. Thanks God I'm in good health except my wrists hurt a
little since after hitting the front window of the cage (with my whole body
of course) my hands were bumpers between me and the pavement. My helmet was
Nolan N80 and I was wearing Dainese Lillhammer jacket and pants, dainese SD1
gloves. They all worked well.
By the way the car hit with such an angle that it could manage to crash the
fuel tank, radiator and the fan. Of course the left panel is broken also.
It's unbelieveable but the remaining parts of my baby is completely in very
good condition (except a little crack of left hand cover).
I have a very dramatic problem. My KLR is 1997 Californian model (dark
green). I live in Turkey and the dealers here could only offer European
model spare-parts. Can you imagine a KLR with a 14 liter magenta fuel tank
with magenta side panels. This idea is killing me.
I need an adress, e-mail, phone number or advice for the replacement of my
broken parts with originals.
Help me, I really feel deserted with a broken bike.
Thanks, Hope you all enjoy your mighty KLRs without any accident.
Birol Say.
- -----╓zgⁿn ▌leti-----
Kimden: Michael Magnatta <michael123@prodigy.net>
Kime: KLR650 Mailing List <klr650@lists.xmission.com>
Tarih: 02 May²s 1998 Cumartesi 18:20
Konu: (klr650) IMS Footpegs
>I recently ordered IMS Footpegs from Fred. Nice pegs, the right one
>needed some minor filing to sit level, though. It took me a few miles of
>shifting/breaking to get used to 'em, but after that, they really
>outshined the original rubber ones. Highly recommend 'em.
>
>Mike Magnatta
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 19:45:36 -0500
From: Ed <etonline@radiks.net>
Subject: (klr650) Factory Directed Modification
All:
Had an interesting thing happen today; did an oil change and when I put
the oil filter cover back on the forward cap screw hole on the cover
cracked. Oh sh*t. Well call the Kaw dealer. They had heard of a few
cracking. Ask them to order one and we could sort out the warrenty part
later. Fine by them.
Went out riding for the day ( great day thanks).
Get home. Have a letter from Kaw. Open it to see a Factory Directed
Modification notice for the.............oil filter cover tabs when the
retaining screws are tightened they may crack. Kaw will cover this
problem so if it happens to you be forwarned that it is Kaw's problem
and they should own up to it. Should any body with a poor dealer need a
copy of this letter let me know I will scan it an e-mail it.
Later
Ed
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 19:02:24 -0600
From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 93 KLR650 Value ?
Sorry, that is American...
At 07:29 PM 5/3/1998 -0400, John Buffett wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>This might make for a lively disscusion. This is not a for sale ad.
>
>I was wondering if I could get some feedback as to value of my 1993
>KLR650. It has less than 15,000 km. and has been maintained by myself
>and I am a fanatic about oil changes. It is in very good condition but
>in need of new chain and sprockets. It has been dropped once or thrice
>(after all it is an off road bike) but you would not know it to see it.
>It was mostly street and concession road driven. I love the bike but
>may have to sell to pursue other interests. * No, I am not getting
>married * ;-:>
>
>If anyone has any feedback I would appreciate it as I like bikes but I
>am not enough of an enthusiast to know the price range this bike would
>have on today's market.
>
>Please state Canadian or U.S. dollars.
>
>
>
>J.B.
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 19:05:28 -0600
From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 93 KLR650 Value ?
Well, here is a start, Motorcycle Consumer News at:
http://www.mcnews.com/articles/kawa.htm
says $2,615. I was going to guess $2,200 -$2,800.
Kurt
At 07:29 PM 5/3/1998 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>This might make for a lively disscusion. This is not a for sale ad.
>
>I was wondering if I could get some feedback as to value of my 1993
>KLR650. It has less than 15,000 km. and has been maintained by myself
>and I am a fanatic about oil changes. It is in very good condition but
>in need of new chain and sprockets. It has been dropped once or thrice
>(after all it is an off road bike) but you would not know it to see it.
>It was mostly street and concession road driven. I love the bike but
>may have to sell to pursue other interests. * No, I am not getting
>married * ;-:>
>
>If anyone has any feedback I would appreciate it as I like bikes but I
>am not enough of an enthusiast to know the price range this bike would
>have on today's market.
>
>Please state Canadian or U.S. dollars.
>
>
>
>J.B.
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 07:29:15 -0400
From: temsley@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: (klr650) Headphones
Josh,
I have a CHATTERBOX! setup in my 3-sport. It works GREAT! Cruzin' with
tunes.
Todd A11
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 10:05:37 -0400
From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com
Subject: (klr650) Re: Hunting tooth
>>>>>
could someone explain the odd-even tooth sprocket situation?
Thanx
Todd A11
<<<<
This was discussed on the DUST list about a year ago. I remember it
well, because I got several personal emails telling me my opinion was
wrong. I *think* I finally got most to see the light.
My experience comes from my youthful days as a tractor/combine mechanic
backed up with a engineering/mathematics degree from good 'ol Texas A&M
(no Aggie Joaks, please). Odd or even? On a motorcycle, it just
doesn't matter. On other machines, like a combine or a bicycle, were
the gear ratio is very close to 1:1 you may be able to produce a valid
argument; and that is a pretty small maybe.
The odd tooth theory is used to prevent the same chain link from hitting
to same tooth over and over. Thus creating a wear pattern in the chain
and/or sprocket.
I went though the actual math last year and calculated the actually
miles you needed to drive for the same link to hit the same tooth given
a few different sprocket combinations (BTW- Chain *length* is also a
variable). The result was get the chain and sprocket combination that
suits your application. The hunting tooth effect is BS. I seem to
recall that *if* you are really concerned about it, then get a front
sprocket with a PRIME number of teeth, a back sprocket with a PRIME
number of teeth and a chain with a PRIME number of links.
Download GearCalc at http://members.aol.com/TwitchSlow/index.html
GearCalc will plot MPH vs RPM for your bike for each gear. Handy for
benchracing you sprocket needs.
Pat
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 08:44:22 -0600
From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Hunting tooth
> The odd tooth theory is used to prevent the same chain link from hitting
> to same tooth over and over. Thus creating a wear pattern in the chain
> and/or sprocket.
Pat, I talked with Jake Jakeman last night. Jake is the PRIME proponent of
this theory on the KLR. When I think back to his argument he really talked
about two consequences: 1) the first is the one you are mentioning; but, 2)
he seemed to be saying that chains have inner links followed by outer links
and that an even numbered sprocket is destined to always run either inner
or outer but never both and, conversely an odd numbered sprocket will
forever alternate. He had me imagine by hand as a five tooth sprocket. So,
we went around, starting with say...thumb (inner), index (outer), middle
(inner), ring (outer), pinkie (inner), and now thumb (outer)...
This second argument seems more plausible. His point is that on and even
numbered sprocket you will see exaggerated and premature wear from inner
chain links on the same sprocket teeth...
Thoughts?
Kurt
PS and BTW, list traffic is way down this weekend. I know for those of us
in the West (80 degrees and clear) it is because we are out riding but I
noticed that Minnesota had a -10 Friday night ... is it depression?
>
> I went though the actual math last year and calculated the actually
> miles you needed to drive for the same link to hit the same tooth given
> a few different sprocket combinations (BTW- Chain *length* is also a
> variable). The result was get the chain and sprocket combination that
> suits your application. The hunting tooth effect is BS. I seem to
> recall that *if* you are really concerned about it, then get a front
> sprocket with a PRIME number of teeth, a back sprocket with a PRIME
> number of teeth and a chain with a PRIME number of links.
>
> Download GearCalc at http://members.aol.com/TwitchSlow/index.html
>
> GearCalc will plot MPH vs RPM for your bike for each gear. Handy for
> benchracing you sprocket needs.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 09:55:35 -0500
From: Jim Barthell <Jim.Barthell@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Hunting tooth
Kurt Simpson wrote:
> This second argument seems more plausible. His point is that on and even
> numbered sprocket you will see exaggerated and premature wear from inner
> chain links on the same sprocket teeth...
I recall the discussion from the Dust list a year ago but this is the first time
I heard of the second argument. Perhaps that what Jake meant all along. Same
sprocket tooth hitting the same "type" of link and this has just been
ineffective communications.
- --
Jim Barthell - TX
'97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650
FSSNOC #2421
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 10:11:48 -0500
From: Jim Barthell <Jim.Barthell@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: (klr650) Bash Plates... I need your input!
So I was thinking in the shower this morning, (where I do my best design
work;-)), I'm trrying to figure a way to increase my fuel capacity. I
could always add a fuel cell to the rear rack but I don't want to give
up my topcase, It is just too convienient when I stop and need to be
able to lock up my gear. I could expand the capacity of the standard
fuel tank, but the bike is already kinda top heavy and I'm concerned
that increasing the tank size by 4.9 gallons may make it sooo top heavy
that it falls over on the side stand. Plus it's going to be tricky
increasing the capacity that much and still keeping the petcock the
lowest part of the tank.
Then I think, why is it such a tough problem? Other bikes can expand
their tank. The KLR already has a large tank. OK, where else could I add
a fuel cell and lower the center of gravity. Nowhere, the bike is packed
into the frame pretty tightly.Hmmm, The bike is taller than most with no
spare room in the frame, what's wrong with this picture??? Ground
clearance, I got more ground clearance than other road bikes. What if I
make a fuel cell, basically the area of the skid plate and a depth and
shape that would hold 4.9 gallons... This is an intriging idea that I
think will work, I'll need to rig a fuel pump to refill the main tank
but that shouldn't be a problem.
OK, Here is the question, Has anyone ever pierced an aftermarket bash
plate? Remember I don't go offroad so I really don't need the ground
clearance. However, I still need to figure out how heavy to make the
cell construction, I want to use an aftermarket bash plate as a standard
if, in all the collective bashing miles you guys have done, no one hase
ever pierced one.
Thanks in advance,
- --
Jim Barthell - TX
'97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650
FSSNOC #2421
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 10:49:35 -0500
From: Ed <etonline@radiks.net>
Subject: (klr650) Tengai Cent IA
All,
There is a 1990 Tengai for sale in Sunday's Des Moines paper for
1195.00. Anyone wanting more info e-mail me and I'll get the phone
number or go test ride it for ya (tough job but I'd do it for the list).
Later
Ed
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 09:51:28 -0800
From: jamesf@bayarea.net (Jim Franklin)
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Hunting tooth
Sorry about that last blank one, morning caffeine hit my fingers first...
At 8:44 AM 5/3/98, Kurt Simpson wrote:
>> The odd tooth theory is used to prevent the same chain link from hitting
>> to same tooth over and over. Thus creating a wear pattern in the chain
>> and/or sprocket.
This is the way I thought it should be, (if it _has_ to be one way or the
other) and was confused by other posts.
>Pat, I talked with Jake Jakeman last night. Jake is the PRIME proponent of
>this theory on the KLR. When I think back to his argument he really talked
>about two consequences: 1) the first is the one you are mentioning; but, 2)
>he seemed to be saying that chains have inner links followed by outer links
>and that an even numbered sprocket is destined to always run either inner
>or outer but never both and, conversely an odd numbered sprocket will
>forever alternate. He had me imagine by hand as a five tooth sprocket. So,
>we went around, starting with say...thumb (inner), index (outer), middle
>(inner), ring (outer), pinkie (inner), and now thumb (outer)...
I understand his point. Now for mine ;-)
If your sprockets are correctly aligned this second point shouldn't be a
problem. If the drivetrain is setup for teeth to alternate, everything will
eventually break in and high spots will wear down and wear will slow down
to relatively nothing, much like an engine.
Now in reality, the chain will wear out from normal use, develop loose
spots, and these will take out your sprockets faster than any tooth
configuration. Having the right ratio for the performance you desire is far
more "important" than basing it on theoretical wear rates. You might as
well never go past half throttle, since doing so will wear out the engine
faster.
>PS and BTW, list traffic is way down this weekend. I know for those of us
That is a Good Thing! ;-) This list is already pretty chatty. Don't
encourage more, it makes for less riding time!
BTW, at the suggestion of a lister, I pumped up my Gripsters on the Tengai
to 32/35, and they're much better than the 25/30 they seem to default to
after a few weeks! I usually set them at 30/32 but with the new pressures
the wobbling is reduced. The pull is still there, however.
Also, my front rotor has developed a "ringing" that feeds back into itself
and gets louder when stopping from >30mph. It starts as I pass through
20mph and continues until I'm stopped. It's not a high pitched squeal that
kills dogs, it's more near the midrange of human hearing, and when it gets
really loud it starts vibrating the bars. It started possibly when I put in
the new pads. I'm going to do a cleaning & deglazing but if anyone's had
this happen and the cause is something unusual could you post it?
Whew. Talk about chatty.
jim
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 13:53:33 -0700 (MST)
From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck <jmoorbec@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: (klr650) skid plate
Does anyone have the part number for the White Bros. KLR 650 skid plate?
I'd order the Moose plate but from what I gather from the list they are on
permanent backorder. Perhaps someone knows of a way to directly contact
Moose to find out what the deal is?
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 18:28:49 EDT
From: Doc Gray <DocGray@aol.com>
Subject: (klr650) horns & mirrors
I recently purchased a '95 KLR; a terrific machine. I would like to get a
horn, even air horns, or something that, at least, I could hear. The OEM
sounds like a toy,but of course you know that. Has anyone had succcess on
dealing with this? Any ideas about where to mount air horns?
Likewise, the mirrors need to extend further out. Have you found an after-
market mirror you like?
John Paul
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:12:01 -0700
From: Tom Simpson <bullet@scsn.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR
At 12:16 PM 5/1/98 -0400, Robert frey wrote:
>My son's got a '93 KLR650 and it whistles! Mostly at idle and just off idle,
>disappears with more open throttle. We already blew out the spark arrestor
>and can't figure out where there might be some blockage and how to get to
>it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler?
>
>
This seems to be a common affliction with KLRs. Mine developed one under
warranty: it was replaced and I have heard others doing it. To fix it, I
imagine you'd have to do what we have done to other mufflers, and that is
to cut a panel out of the inner-facing side with a torch and do a little
"surgery" to correct the problem, then braze the removed panel back
into place. The current muffler shows no signs of this, however (knock
on wood).
- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
23,500 miles
600 of them this weekend (went to N. Georgia rally and on associated
dual-sport ride...too kewl :)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:28:39 -0700
From: Tom Simpson <bullet@scsn.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) co2
At 04:26 PM 5/1/98 -0400, Peter Dahlheimer wrote:
>Hi. Tryinta prepare for my first long-distance road trip, "Boynton or
>Bust '98", leaving NJ on 5/8.
>Just received Travelcade seat kit, highway pegs, NEP throttle lock, gel
>grips, gel gloves. Hoping
>that my friends JC Whitney bolt-on windshield will fit my bike. Also
>bought a tire repair kit, which
>comes with three CO2 containers. Is that enough to fill a tube?
>
>Any suggestions for a newbie long-distance cruiser welcome.
I just did 600 miles this weekend, but I realy cant think
of any generic advice to offer at this moment. This is parly due
to fatigue and partly due to the feeling that there is no real
substitute for goin' out there and just trying stuff. My answers
may not work for you anyway. When I have rested a bit, maybe I
can think of something :)
One CO2 container (meant for a bycycle, dont know the
weight) will fill up a front tire enough to make it roadable.
At least to get you to a filling station.
- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
Plenty o' Miles.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:42:04 -0700
From: Tom Simpson <bullet@scsn.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire Wear
At 07:52 AM 5/2/98 +1000, Ted Palmer wrote:
>mcpete@juno.com wrote:
>>
>> What kind of milage are y'all getting out of Avon Gripsters? Trying to
>> figure out if I have enough left in the rear tire to go on a 6k trip.
>
>AFAIR, I got around 22,000km (13750 mi) out of my rear Gripster.
>This was a mix of touring, scratching and town dribbling.
>As the tyre shop told me, if you was them to last, you have to pump
>them up. I used about 33-34psi on tour, 30-32psi around town, 28-30psi
>for scratching.
Damn, I didnt do so well. My KLR will kill a AM24 rear tire
in about 7,500-8,000 miles, touring and commuting. My bike tends
to carry a big load, however (starting with me)...
Your 600 is a good bit lighter than the US-spec KLR 650,
if I am not mistaken. This could account for your better service
life.
On another tire note, I actualy got to find out how a
Bridgestone S11 Spitfire rear works as a dirt tire this weekend.
And the verdict is...
Not..at...all...bad! For what it is, it was actualy pretty
impressive! Oh, if you were in the muddy bits (And in N. Georgia this
weekend, that was everywhere...except the bits that were gravel...
or solid rock...) and tried to put down a lot of power, it would
spin, but this tire ($70 PP from MAW) tracked and handled everying
on or off pavement just splendidly! Overall, it worked about as well
as my Gripsters ever did.
Problem: it isnt wearing any better than the Gripster, and
longer life was the main thing I was searching for here...
- -Tom
AKA Mr. Cant-have-it-all
'96 KLR 650
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:41:19 -0500
From: Michael Redwine <mclajones@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: (klr650) Hi, all
Hi,, I,ve been lurking here now for about 2 weeks, have become the new
owner of a 90 KLR 650 and thought I could pick up a few tips about this
" great" bike if I hung around a little. Well I have aready tried one of
the tips I found here, the buzz in the hand grips was real bad I got a
38" length of 4/0 electric cable and stuffed it into the bars also
installed new Pro-Grip gels. It worked great rode about 300 miles this
Sunday and no problems with my hands. So just wanted to say thanks
putting the list up and keeping it going. Also has anyone tried the
Metzler Enduro4 tires ? Sorry for being so long winded. Thanks again !!
Mikey R.
90 KLR 650
95 BMW R100-GS/PD
84 BMW R80 RT
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 11:58:48 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <tedp@replicant.apana.org.au>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Whistling KLR
Robert frey wrote:
[...]
> it. It doesn't hurt the machines performance. Anybody else got a whistler?
I thought they all came with a farting budgie in the muffler, standard.
Mine's done it as long as I can remember.
Mister_T
- --
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\
| RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) |
| tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au |
\|_________________________________________________________________|
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 22:51:01 -0400
From: "Michael Magnatta" <michael123@prodigy.net>
Subject: (klr650) Fork Gaitors
Guys:
About a month ago a couple of you guys replied to my post regarding
manufacturers/sources of fork boots. I can't find that old post, please,
anyone with info about klr fork boots, please send it? Thanks!!!!!!!!
Mike Magnatta
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:13:03 EDT
From: Cloudhid <Cloudhid@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) highway pegs
In a message dated 5/1/98 1:29:56 PM, dahlheim@UMDNJ.EDU wrote:
>No instructions came with the highway pegs. Any suggestions/comments
>from anyone experienced?
>_pete 97KLR650
Mine were a hair too tight to install, so I tapped 'em
with a hammer to spread 'em out, letting it slip on.
(note: pegs fold back towards rider ;-)
Ron (tapped out)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:38:04 EDT
From: Cloudhid <Cloudhid@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Looking to buy. (lucky)
In a message dated 5/1/98 6:49:59 PM, robertlmorgan@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>Ron
> You are lucky your wife rides with you, and luckier still she wants a
>bike. Mine won't even sit on my klr in the driveway! She wont go near it!
>Its not like I'm too gonzo I don't think. I haven't crashed any cars or
>planes, Ive never hit dock with the sailboat, but she just wont trust me
>on the bike. Period! I can almost start to understand this till we go by
>the motorcyle store for parts or something and she sees a full dress,
>antennae laden, Goldwing and says " I might be able to ride on one of
>these."
> Whats up with that?
>Morgan [riding solo]
Morgan, it took me a while to get her back on a bike with me.
(I've had some hard landings over the years, but like the saying
goes....any you can walk away from.) She still reminds me of the
time back in '75 when she burned her leg on the exhaust pipe of
my Hawk 305. Or even earlier when I locked the front brake on
my SL350 (my 1st DP;-). Or when I gave my SL500 to my Son for
his 16th Bday. Anyway my point is, hang in there Morgan. If you
can last a few decades with her, maybe you can wear down her
resistance >;-).
Ron (27 years later.....still trying to outlast her)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:47:49 EDT
From: Cloudhid <Cloudhid@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) klr650 saddle bags from Kawasaki
In a message dated 5/1/98 7:51:39 PM, rssm@voicenet.com wrote:
>Just bought a new 98 klr650 and planning a trip to West Virginia in two
>weeks. I ordered the new saddle bags and trunk bag from Kawasaki designed
>for the klr. My dealer tells me they don't know when they will ship. Could
>be two weeks to 2 months. Any one know where I can get these. And has anyone
>tried them? Opinions?
>Rick Bridgman
>Elizabethtown, PA (Near Harrisburg)
Kawa Cust. Serv. gave me a best guess of May 22 'till their vendor
ships to the Kawa warehouse. Then another day or so to get to your
dealer. To compliment my 'aero'panniers, I found a couple of bicycle
carriers at REI that attach nicely to the rear passenger grip. They
have a great quick release system as well. Just road tested them to
Pismo Beach this weekend, and they survived rain, sand, streams,
ocean waves and me. Price $110
Ron (who bets their are those with doubts)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:55:53 EDT
From: Cloudhid <Cloudhid@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) hard-as* seat pan
In a message dated 5/2/98 4:55:03 PM, dahlheim@UMDNJ.EDU wrote:
>help!
>i can't get staples into my seat pan! not even with a heavy-duty
>craftsman (thank god it's craftsman
>and i can get my $100 back) electric staple gun...
>how the hell do i get my seat back together?
>_pete 97KLR650
Guess I should've stressed a *heavy duty* stapler. The factory uses
a pneumatic one. I used elbow grease and a "Swingline #800 Heavy
Duty Tacker".
Ron (got the job done)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 22:09:36 -0600
From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) skid plate
At 01:53 PM 5/3/1998 -0700, Jeffrey P Moorbeck wrote:
>Does anyone have the part number for the White Bros. KLR 650 skid plate?
>I'd order the Moose plate but from what I gather from the list they are on
>permanent backorder. Perhaps someone knows of a way to directly contact
>Moose to find out what the deal is?
WB Heavy Duty Skid Plate #31-911X - $74.95
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 00:21:05 EDT
From: Cloudhid <Cloudhid@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) horns & mirrors
In a message dated 5/3/98 3:31:14 PM, DocGray@aol.com wrote:
>I recently purchased a '95 KLR; a terrific machine. I would like to get a
>horn, even air horns, or something that, at least, I could hear. The OEM
>sounds like a toy,but of course you know that. Has anyone had succcess on
>dealing with this? Any ideas about where to mount air horns?
>Likewise, the mirrors need to extend further out. Have you found an after-
>market mirror you like? John Paul
From the archives,
<A HREF="http://www.xmission.com/~dkenison/cgi/lwgate.cgi/KLR650/archives/">
KLR650 Archives</A>
Ron (meep, meep)
>In a message dated 5/3/98 3:31 PM, r_k_dow@earthlink.net wrote:
>I mounted a pair of Fiams (using the supplied flat metal pieces)
>to the top, front engine bolt on the downtube. They cost about $25.
>I put some black, open cell foam behind the horn grills to keep out
>grunge and hot glued the seams. The are pretty loud and have held
>up for six years including a lot of offroad riding. I've heard that
>Hella horns are also good, but cost around $80. Good luck.
>Randy Dow
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 00:24:58 EDT
From: Cloudhid <Cloudhid@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) highway pegs
In a message dated 5/3/98 9:16:02 PM, you wrote:
>can't remember whether Tim sends new longer bolts or not.
>Kurt
Yes, but the nuts aren't metric, and the new bolt
needs a hex key instead of a wrench like the old one.
Ron (who's a nut in any system)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 06:04:00 -0400
From: temsley@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Hunting tooth
Pat,
Thanks for the post on teeth. Did they spell jokes this way in Texas?
"(no Aggie Joaks, please)"
Todd
A11
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 07:08:07 -0700
From: nma@juno.com
Subject: (klr650) differences after "96"
Does anyone know the differences in the KLR after 1996. I know there were
some changes but I don't what.
Regards,
Rob
_____________________________________________________________________
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 09:25:54 -0700
From: Tom Simpson <bullet@scsn.net>
Subject: Re: (klr650) differences after "96"
At 07:08 AM 5/4/98 -0700, nma@juno.com wrote:
>Does anyone know the differences in the KLR after 1996. I know there were
>some changes but I don't what.
>
Among the changes iin the '96+ model bikes are a more
massive flywheel (more torquy-feeling, smoother low-end
performance), an additional disk and plate and an improved
spring arangement in the clutch pack (improving clutch performance and
reliability, but eliminating the option of fitting the factory kick starter),
improved counterbalancer chain adjuster mechanisim, a firmer factory seat
(God, I hate to think how bad the old one must have been) and a much,
much more appealing color scheme. :)
- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
and glad he didnt find a left-over '95
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:44:57 -0500
From: Mike Hilton <fmhilton@bayou.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Hi, all
Welcome aboard Michael. I plan on trying the wire weight myself. As
far as the Enduro 4's go, I have them on my R100GS but never have tried
them on a KLR... I notice your signature shows a R100GS, not the Classic
is it???. I totaled a 95 Classic last October, sure miss it...
Michael Redwine wrote:
>
> Hi,, I,ve been lurking here now for about 2 weeks, have become the new
> owner of a 90 KLR 650 and thought I could pick up a few tips about this
> " great" bike if I hung around a little. Well I have aready tried one of
> the tips I found here, the buzz in the hand grips was real bad I got a
> 38" length of 4/0 electric cable and stuffed it into the bars also
> installed new Pro-Grip gels. It worked great rode about 300 miles this
> Sunday and no problems with my hands. So just wanted to say thanks
> putting the list up and keeping it going. Also has anyone tried the
> Metzler Enduro4 tires ? Sorry for being so long winded. Thanks again !!
>
> Mikey R.
>
> 90 KLR 650
> 95 BMW R100-GS/PD
> 84 BMW R80 RT
- --
Michael Hilton
fmhilton@bayou.com
http://www.bayou.com/rustonmarshal
Ruston, LA
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 09:16:25 -0500
From: Robert Carreras <carreras@nstar.net>
Subject: (klr650) More Moab Pics
More group/individual pictures posted over the weekend of the KLR 650
Rally in Moab at:
http://web.nstar.net/~carreras
Please pass on to the group who rode Onion Creek on Saturday:
Mark Lander- Phoenix
Branko Vujkovic- Phoenix
John Houchins
Joel Wood
Bill Haycock
Dick Antonius
BoB Carreras
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 10:48:39 -0400
From: Cameron Cole <CameronC@msigroup.com>
Subject: (klr650) SuperTrapp IDS problems
I hit my first MAJOR problem with the IDS exhausts. I used a torque
wrench (and it was a pain) to insure the proper torque when installing 8
discs. I received 8 more from SuperTrapp discs on Friday. I was going
up to 16.
After removing the tail pipe and two of the screws holding in the discs,
I went after the third. Well, it stripped halfway out. It just turns
freely (left and right). You can pull and push it about a half out. My
guess is the backing that holds the screw came loose.
Friday afternoon, I called SuperTrapp and was told this is a common
problem when overtightening the screws. I informed them that I used a
torque wrench and applied the appropriate torque. Long story short,
they won't replace it under warranty, but will fix it for $200. What a
deal, I can buy a new one for less.
Moral of the story, be real careful with those disc bolts. As for me, I
hear a Cobra in my future. Can someone tell me the model I need for a
98 KLR?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 11:13:00 -0400
From: Cameron Cole <CameronC@msigroup.com>
Subject: RE: (klr650) hard-as* seat pan
This should work. You will need a drill and a small drill bit. Drill
the platic until bit is about to go through the other side then stop.
Make two divots for every staple needed to re-attach the seat. This
should allow the staples to go through the plastic.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Dahlheimer [SMTP:dahlheim@UMDNJ.EDU]
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 1998 7:56 PM
> To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: (klr650) hard-as* seat pan
>
> help!
>
> i can't get staples into my seat pan! not even with a heavy-duty
> craftsman (thank god it's craftsman
> and i can get my $100 back) electric staple gun...
>
> how the hell do i get my seat back together?
>
> _pete
> 97KLR650
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 11:50:19 -0400
From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com
Subject: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket
All the positive talk about the Kiliminjaro jacket I have determined
that my life is not complete without one. (I live a pretty simple
life...)
Can a few of you provide information about some sources where I can
order this jacket? What is a fair 'street price'?
Thanks,
Pat
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:57:57 -0700
From: Erik Snider <esnider@qualcomm.com>
Subject: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker
I know this is not KLR specific, but it is dual-sport and interesting none
the less.
I was flipping through one of the more recent MX rags at the grocery store
yesterday and they had an article on an American who raced with Team KTM in
the Paris-Dakkar. They had a profile shot of the KTM (660 Adventure I
think) the thing looked like a super tanker. It had a HUGE main tank and
dual seat tanks. What was really nice is the orange lets you see the fuel
level. The bike oozed independence. What gas station, we don't need no
steenking gas station. Check it out, definitely the extreme end of dual
sporting.
P.S. About filtering the list. Does Eudora lite have filters? I use
Eudora 4.0, my filter is set to <Any Header> = klr650@lists.xmission.com
the message is then sent to my KLR650 mail box.
Erik Snider
Purchasing Card Administrator
AF208C4
619-651-0217
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:01:14 -0400
From: "Catron, Geoff" <gcatron@dtaes1.dtae.tec.ga.us>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket
Hi Pat,
Don't know if you can mail order those...the First Gear line is
*supposedly* not available by mail order. The best price I've seen for
one in the Atlanta area is $299.00. Good luck!
Geoff Catron
'96 BMW R1100RSA
Soon to own '98 KLR 650
-----Original Message-----
From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com
[SMTP:PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 11:50 AM
To: klr650@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket
All the positive talk about the Kiliminjaro jacket I have
determined
that my life is not complete without one. (I live a pretty
simple
life...)
Can a few of you provide information about some sources where
I can
order this jacket? What is a fair 'street price'?
Thanks,
Pat
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 13:00:34 EDT
From: MORIARTPAT <MORIARTPAT@aol.com>
Subject: (klr650) KLR for Sale-ammended
Ammended
<<For Sale:
1998 KLR 650
5700 miles
9 months of factory warranty left with option to purchase
2 or 3 years more through Kawasaki.
Perfect condition- cleaner than new
Properly broken in
Barely off road (150 miles of fire road!)
frequent oil changes (Spectro)
Bought it new Feb. 20th of 98!
KLR is too tall for me!
Brand new Avon Gripster tires. (Zero miles)
$4300 or best offer!
Call Patrick
415-479-0718 or E-mail : moriartpat@aol.com
San Rafael, CA>>
------------------------------
End of klr650-digest V1 #68
***************************