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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:16:20 -0700
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW announces K1200GS

Pokluda, Gino F wrote:
>
> K650DSN has scooped the world!  With a great deal of help from my
> sources, I have learned that BMW will announce a K1200GS as early as this
> fall, but most likely next spring.  Citing favorable sales of the new
> K1200RS and a mountain of orders for the K1200LT, BMW decided to produce
> the K1200GS and "fast tracked" design and development process.

You know when I went to grad school in Pittsburgh my big midwestern heart made
me easy prey for the philosophy jocks from the East Coast...many years have
passed but I remain very gullible...but, in this case, with great delight!. You
had me until the "modest $3,000 for the lowering kit" I was saying...14 gallons!
and 14" travel....I am in trouble...

Thanks for the levity Gino,

Kurt

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:41:04 EST
From: Rcklr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW announces K1200GS

I love it!!  You have made my day with this one.  I am surprised you didn't
get a little sneakier and tried to scoop us with a new KLR or something that
we all would have really drooled over...  This is why I ride a KLR, the people
are just too much!!!!

MN Ron (I'm digging out of an 8" snow storm, no foolin'.  But, we're looking
for 65 degrees on Saturday.... Why do we live in MN?  Because it feels so good
when we move south later.....)

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:33:00 -0500
From: "Michael Magnatta" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight Upgrade

It's possible that the electrical system might be taxed - I had an
intermittent fuse-blowing problem last year, but I attributed it to
another cause. If it repeats itself this year I'll let you know. Keep in
mind that I also modified the running lights to be on all the time.  It
might not be a bad idea to install a relay. Oh yeah, no heating problems
as far as I could tell.

Mike

- -----Original Message-----
From: Chadd Thompson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 1998 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight Upgrade


At 08:33 PM 3/31/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>You really want to brighten up your day, I mean night? I installed a
>>PHILLIPS HALOGEN RALLY HEAVY DUTY 100/90 watt bulb in my klr and was
>
>You want to do some weed burnin along the road ditches?  I'll have some
>90/130s in stock Friday for $15.95 plus S&H.


The only thing that you guys might want to think about on these bulbs is
the
extra current draw that they will be putting on your electrical systems.
This includes your switches, wiring, battery, alternator, etc etc. I
think
that the stock bulb is 65W? so that means that it would draw 5.4 amps at
12V
the 100 watt would draw 8.3 amps at 12V and the 130W would draw 10.8
amps at
12V. As you can see with a 130W bulb you are drawing 2 times the amount
of
current that the original bulb would draw. Just something to think
about. It
would be a good idea to run new heavier gauge wiring for the headlight
and
just use your switch to control a relay that turns the H/L on and off.


Thanks
Chadd Thompson
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 13:56:18 -0700
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW announces K1200GS

Rcklr wrote:
>
> I love it!!  You have made my day with this one.  I am surprised you didn't
> get a little sneakier and tried to scoop us with a new KLR or something that
> we all would have really drooled over...  This is why I ride a KLR, the people
> are just too much!!!!
>
> MN Ron (I'm digging out of an 8" snow storm, no foolin'.  But, we're looking
> for 65 degrees on Saturday.... Why do we live in MN?  Because it feels so good
> when we move south later.....)

I think Gino already told us about the new KLR...he tucked it into a recent DSN,
sounded pretty trick too. It will hit those of us with A12's really hard.

Kurt

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:33:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Vervaeke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Bought myself a KLR

Hello:

Well, it only took a week or ten days but I own my KLR. After haggling
with a local dealer for a week over a nice low-miles 95 KLR-650 I walked
away. It was too much of a hassle. I then checked the local newspaper and
saw an ad for a 1998 KLR650 with 28 miles. No way can that be right.

Gave them a call and went right over. The owner has a bunch of motorcycles.
He bought the KLR at the end of Sept 97 and drove it home. Has not moved
since. He's got other bikes, it's been a gnarly winter, and they're moving
to another part of Colorado. He was asking $4300 and we settled on $4000 even.
He has all of the original paperwork, contract, books, etc.. The bike has
never been off the pavement or been rained on. He's had it connected to a
battery tender all winter. It looks cleaner than the new 98 on the local
dealer's showroom which has 35 miles on it and they won't let it out for less
than $4600.

So, it's 2:30 PM Wednesday local time and I'm heading over in 5 minutes to
give him the $3900 balance I owe. I'm then off to the DMV to get a license
plate and stuff like that. I'll drive it home tonight.

So, I think I beat the record recently of $4200 even though mine has 28 miles
on it. I've got to start riding it this weekend so I can get it ready for the
first service prior to Moab. BTW, what is the mileage needed for the first
service? I don't have the book yet.

Need to get a few goodies like a engine guard (Moose?) and the service
manuals (2).

Just Showing Off,

Tom Vervaeke






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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:06:27 -0600
From: "Jim & Melissa Sherlock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Stage 1 Jet Kit

Hey Fellow Stockers,

I may have an extra Stage I jet kit available in a few days. You see, when
Fred said that the kit was going out of production, I ran down to my local
shop and ordered a kit. They said delivery would be in two to three days.
Well, eight days later it still isn't here. They claim they'll get it, but I
wasn't taking any chances. So, I called Dennis Kirk and purchased what they
claimed was their last one, today. Dennis Kirk has never sold me anything
they didn't have so I'm confident that their order will arrive. However; if
the bike shop also manages to come through, I will have two kits. If this
occurrs I will be willing to sell the unopened kit to someone for my cost
only.  If anyone is interested, drop me a line.

Jim Sherlock

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:57:28 -0700
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Bought myself a KLR

> So, I think I beat the record recently of $4200 even though mine has 28 miles
> on it. I've got to start riding it this weekend so I can get it ready for the
> first service prior to Moab. BTW, what is the mileage needed for the first
> service? I don't have the book yet.

500 miles. Congrats...I'm jealous...mine has 34 miles on it and is in 200
pieces. People just gasp when they see it...."is this your new bike..?????" If I
don't get it together soon I'm going to be bench racing at Moab.

Kurt

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:05:53 -0800
From: James Dukes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Bought myself a KLR

In message <[e-mail]>tom_vervaeke@roc
ketmail.com writes
> Hello:
>
> Well, it only took a week or ten days but I own my KLR. After haggling

Congratulations!


> Need to get a few goodies like a engine guard (Moose?) and the service
> manuals (2).

Good luck on the Moose skid plate.  I ordered mine back in Jan. and
I just called and it's still on backorder status.  Maybe by the
middle of April...


Does anybody know what's up with Moose?  My Dad just received the
Moose enduro jacket that he ordered in *November*.  It seems like
everything is backordered.

Does anybody have the Lockhart skid plate for the KLR?



- -Jim

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:03:23 -0500
From: Cameron Cole <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Bought myself a KLR

Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse has the Moose Skid plates and they have a
reasonable turn around time of about a week.  You can find them at
http://www.accwhse.com.

On another note, what is the big deal about a K&N jet kit?  Can't we
just buy the Dynajet kit instead?

Cameron, 678 miles.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    James Dukes [SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:    Wednesday, April 01, 1998 6:06 PM
> To:    [e-mail]
> Subject:    Re: (klr650) Bought myself a KLR
>
>
> In message
> <[e-mail]>tom_vervaeke@roc
> ketmail.com writes
> > Hello:
> >
> > Well, it only took a week or ten days but I own my KLR. After
> haggling
>
> Congratulations!
>
>
> > Need to get a few goodies like a engine guard (Moose?) and the
> service
> > manuals (2).
>
> Good luck on the Moose skid plate.  I ordered mine back in Jan. and
> I just called and it's still on backorder status.  Maybe by the
> middle of April...
>
>
> Does anybody know what's up with Moose?  My Dad just received the
> Moose enduro jacket that he ordered in *November*.  It seems like
> everything is backordered.
>
> Does anybody have the Lockhart skid plate for the KLR?
>
>
>
> -Jim
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 16:28:50 -0800
From: lury <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Just bought a KLR650 - how did I do?

Recently, I bought a '93 KLR650 which I found in a local buy/sell
publication. I think I got a good deal, but I'd like to check with al of
you KLR experts to make sure I didn't get ripped off (if I did, please
don't rub it in too much!). I paid $3200 (Canadian $$) which converts to
$2258 (Yankee $$) thanks to our weak currency. The bike has 6000 kms,
and is in mint condition as far as I can see. So, how did I do????

You guys sure have a great thing going with this KLR email list, I've
found a lot of very valueable information. My next big purchase will be
a luggage system....I had  no idea what to look for until I ran into
Gino's reviews of the Aerostich and Kawasaki luggage.  I tried to order
the Kawasaki Tail Bag which I want to use in conjuction with the
Aerostitch Tank Panniers and Saddle Bags. I ran into a problem though. I
talked to my local Kawi dealer and he claims that the Kawi bags are not
available to wholesalers in Canada. He said that the US Kawi accesory
catalog is over 200 pgs. thick but the Canadian catalog is only 6 or 7
pages. What can I do? Are there any Canadians out there who can verify
this? If I have to order from the US I'll end up paying double the price
after duty, and exchange, and freight.

Thanx,

Ryan

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:41:29 -0500
From: "J. Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Todd E. & Clutch Cables

I had similar problems with clutch cables and after 2 as well, bought a
Pro-Motion from a local independent dealer for $5 less than the Kawi
cable. Has never even flinched in rain, sleet, snow or ice. Who wudda
thot....in FLA too!

Jake

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:38:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Mercer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) KLR rear wheel stand

KLR listers,

I have a home made ugly as sin solid as a rock lever action stand for my KLR
which I don't use any more after I got my Dual Star center stand. It is
available free to the first taker. You pick it up in Ukiah, CA. I could also
meet someone in the Bay area (I work in Fremont). E-mail me direct if you're
interested.

Eric
'92 KLR

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:56:33 -0500
From: "J. Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS tank..

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have a few questions about the tank
> IMS makes for the KLR. I believe I read
> that it actually holds more than the stock
> tank . Is this correct? also, been thinking
> alot about this tank. I have always liked
> the " natural " colored tanks in that you
> can see the level of gas. so I'm a dork
> anyways, a friend of mine was telling me
> he was going to order a IMS since they
> now came in the green/blue to match
> the 96 on color scheme. this ended up
> being untrue. they make them in white
> and natural and maybe that royal blue
> from the pre-94 fruitcake colors.
> I'm trying to decide on whether or not
> on taking the gamble and ordering the
> natural and seeing how it would look
> against the stock shrouds and side
> panels. I figured if you could get
> the KL part of the stock stickers to
> put on the tank to complete the KLR
> logo it might look kinda cool.
> not that half price hot pink neon deal
> cool ( no offense)  but maybe wih a black
> seat( yep it's me jeff) and all the other
> black on the bike it cold possibly work.
> I will probably just go ahead and order
> it now since I have gone so far as to
> ask for open opinions on this list.
> I better get some pictures of this bike of
> mine up on the website. you all
> probably think I'm really a sick XR owner
> just playing with everyone.
> jeff
Jeff:

I've seen you out there on that XR of yours with an IMS tank-wondered
who that was...

Jake

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:52:31 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Todd E. & Clutch Cables

>I had similar problems with clutch cables and after 2 as well, bought a
>Pro-Motion from a local independent dealer for $5 less than the Kawi
>cable. Has never even flinched in rain, sleet, snow or ice. Who wudda
>thot....in FLA too!
>
>Jake
>


Has anyone tried the Motion Pro Terminator clutch cables?  What did you
think of them?  They are about $30, twice what the standard Motion Pro cable
is.  They are made different and are supposed to be much stronger.  I'll
have the standard clutch cable for anyone that needs one at the Rally.
Fred Hink
[e-mail]
Arrowhead Motorsports
http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:08:02 -0600
From: se <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) list notes...

I'll second that Kurt.  I am particularly interested in "discussion from experienced
dirt riders who could give the rest of us some tips and tricks."

Especially some mud, sand and loose gravel tips.

Robert

Kurt Simpson wrote:

> For my own part, I would love to see the adventurer tourers begin talking to one
> another and let the rest of us enjoy some of their insights and experiences. I
> would also enjoy some discussion from experienced dirt riders who could give the
> rest of us some tips and tricks.
>
> Enough,
>
> Kurt

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:10:13 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Conall O'Brien)
Subject: (klr650) fix a broken speedometer?

my 90 klr w/45k miles speedo is broken and the speedo cable is ok. Any
ideas what to look for next? when the speedometer stopped working I was
riding on the freeway and saw the needle bounce to zero and back a
couple of times ,quite erratic.  Hope it's not the gauge.
Please email me direct and i'll post the fix to the list. Thanx a
million.
















Conall O'Brien

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:40:31 EST
From: Cloudhid <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (klr650) Bought myself a KLR

(snip)
>a 1998 KLR650 with 28 miles.
>He bought the KLR at the end of Sept 97
>we settled on $4000 even.

Congrats Tom. You got me beat. In Feb 96 I paid $3976 + $295
freight for a A10L (96, still crated). At $4271 (+tx+lic),
that's almost $10 a mile more for a virgin! Next time I'll
scour the used market harder.

I don't remember the fine print in the warranty, (yours
come with an extended warranty?), but it should be transferable
to you. Start rackin' up the miles, so if anything is out of order
hopefully it will be before it's expired (warranty not the bike).
Standard warranty is 12 months from date of purchase.
The only item I had replaced in this period was the rubber
strap on the vapor separator. (dealer put a ziptie on it:-)
Others haven't been so fortunate.

Ron (getting ready for his 500th post brain change)

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 00:43:55 -0500
From: Thomas Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW announces K1200GS

Pokluda, Gino F wrote:
>
> K650DSN has scooped the world!  With a great deal of help from my
> sources, I have learned that BMW will announce a K1200GS as early as this
> fall, but most likely next spring.  Citing favorable sales of the new
> K1200RS and a mountain of orders for the K1200LT, BMW decided to produce
> the K1200GS and "fast tracked" design and development process.



    Thing is, you look at some of the stuff BMW has put out in
recent years and it actualy makes sense.  :)


- -Tom
'96 KLR 650
(coming down for heavy maintenece this weekend)
'77 R60/7
(still scattered all over the garage)

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 04:16:48 -0800
From: "Forrest Miflin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: Rust on Brake?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim & Melissa Sherlock <[e-mail]>
To: KLR E-mail <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 2:51 PM
Subject: (klr650) Stage 1 Jet Kit


I have on my rear brake rotor, should I clean it off?  How would I do it?  I
am a neophyte to all this and hope this question is not as stupid as I think
it is.

Forrest
Gump

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:51:51 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Rust on Brake?

Your brake pads will do a good job of removing that rust.  If the rust is
from just setting over one winter then I would'nt worry about it.  Unless it
is real heavy all I would do is just use your brakes and in a little bit
they will be cleaned up.  You could use some fine steel wool on the worst of
it.  Like someone else said "life is like a box of chocolates" no, I mean
"the only dumb questions are the ones you don't ask"
Fred Hink
[e-mail]
Arrowhead Motorsports
http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html

- -----Original Message-----
From: Forrest Miflin <[e-mail]>
To: Jim & Melissa Sherlock <[e-mail]>; KLR E-mail
<[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 5:27 AM
Subject: (klr650) Re: Rust on Brake?


>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim & Melissa Sherlock <[e-mail]>
>To: KLR E-mail <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 2:51 PM
>Subject: (klr650) Stage 1 Jet Kit
>
>
>I have on my rear brake rotor, should I clean it off?  How would I do it?
I
>am a neophyte to all this and hope this question is not as stupid as I
think
>it is.
>
>Forrest
>Gump
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:05:36 -0500
From: Crystal & Fred Olsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Fwd: trails?

Bob,

The private logging roads up North are controlled in most areas, however
I'm going to have a friend of mine who lives up there find out if her
side of the state is controlled or not.  I would assume that such a
rally would have to include sights of interest/beauty (no way we end up
with Moab views, no way) <g>.  I've talked with a very friendly
Conservation officer who's trying to get more ATV/Bikes into the state
on tourism as they've been very successful with the snowmobilers.
Unfortunately, Maine state law prohibits riding on snowmobile
trails...go figure!  I'll post what I find out over the next week or so.

FJO

Bob Zeliff wrote:
>
> I'm in Bridport Vt....Deer hunter friend hunt on lumber company
> land...theysay there are hundreds of miles of private dirt roads in northern
> Maine.
>
> Is this true?  What are the access requirements?
>
> Vt has lots of dirt roads...right now in mud season some are
> pretty challenging.  let me know if there's a easter moab.
>
> bob zeliff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crystal & Fred Olsen <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: (klr650) Fwd: trails?
>
> >Jeff,
> >
> >I'll swap info when it comes available.  I'm in Central Maine and have
> >been looking for trails.  There are some abandoned railroad beds here
> >and in Northern Maine that have been co-opted by the snowmobilers.  I'm
> >looking to find out if they're open in the summer for bikes.
> >
> >Let me know what you find out in Mass.  Maybe we can have a mini Moab in
> >the east!
> >
> >FJO
> >
> >Aaron Rubin wrote:
> >>
> >> Jeff,
> >> I am also wondering about trails around the Boston area.  The sun we
> >> have had the past couple days is getting me psyched to get my bike here.
> >> I have a dr350ses that is sitting in my parents garage in upstate New
> >> York just waiting for me to come pick it up.
> >> Let me know what you find out about trails.
> >>
> >> Aaron
> >> [e-mail]
> >> [e-mail]
> >>
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 05:45:55 PST
From: "Roger Fastring" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: Hard to start when Cold?

KLR Folks,


    Well, after 3 great days riding my first moto (1995 KLR650) I am
still alive but do have a question:  The bike runs great except for when
I start it in the morning or when I havent run it for more than 3 or so
hours.  Then, it takes forever.  I have played with choke positions, etc
and it eventually starts, but it takes more than 10 times and the
battery gets low.  Is there something obvious I need to fix or does
anyone sell a engine block heater for bikes to plug it in at night?
Also, is there a way to add a kick start for when you are in the middle
of no-where (here in Louisiana thats most places...) and the battery
dies trying to turn it over?

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:09:02
From: Robert Kaub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Batteries

I just spoke to Yuasa factory in Reading and here's the word on the
maintenance-free battery for the KLR650.
They stopped making it about a year ago.  Why?  Because nobody was buying
them.
They don't have any plans to make any more.  The number of the battery
Kawasaki buys from them for the KLR is YB14L-A2.  They told me that there
other maint-free batteries available but they have a lower cca rating than
necessary for the KLR.  Looks like we're out of luck.
My past experience with bike batteries is that you buy a new one every year
no matter what.
Bob Kaub
SUNY Binghamton
Watson School Student Shop
PO Box 6000
Binghamton, NY  13902
607-777-2715

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:34:04
From: Robert Kaub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) 500 Mile Service

Just spoke to the dealer about arrangements for the 500 mile checkup.  They
said it will cost about $100.00!   When I asked why, he said they change
the oil and spark plug and check 16 different items on the bike.  He was
figuring two hours labor plus parts.
Does this seem a little high???????
Bob Kaub
SUNY Binghamton
Watson School Student Shop
PO Box 6000
Binghamton, NY  13902
607-777-2715

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:35:49 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Moose Skid Plate

KLR's

I was looking at M/C Accessory Warehouse's web page for a Moose skid
plate for my '97 KLR. They only list one for a 93-4 KLX (Their number
21500) Is this the plate I need?

TIA

Pete McMahon

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:37:47 -0700
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Hard to start when Cold?

Roger Fastring wrote:
>
> KLR Folks,
>
>
>     Well, after 3 great days riding my first moto (1995 KLR650) I am
> still alive but do have a question:  The bike runs great except for when
> I start it in the morning or when I havent run it for more than 3 or so
> hours.  Then, it takes forever.  I have played with choke positions, etc
> and it eventually starts, but it takes more than 10 times and the
> battery gets low.  Is there something obvious I need to fix or does
> anyone sell a engine block heater for bikes to plug it in at night?
> Also, is there a way to add a kick start for when you are in the middle
> of no-where (here in Louisiana thats most places...) and the battery
> dies trying to turn it over?


Roger, my new '98 was doing the same thing. I had the dealer take it back and it
didn't improve. I put out a similar post to the list and most of them said they
didn't experience the same problem. I'm hoping the new jet kit I put in it will
help. The low speed mix screw (which is plugged so you can't adjust it until you
put the kit in)was set at less than 1 turn. After I removed the plug I backed it
out 3 1/2 turns. I've been told that you don't have to use the choke after
putting in the kit.

My advice would be to make sure your battery is 100% and if there is any doubt
put a new one in. There was a thread a week or so ago that the Yuasa maintenance
free battery is no longer available. If that is the case, you might be able to
get a maintenance free Champion from Autozone. Then I would buy a battery tender
(not a battery charger) and put it on every night. I had a CX-500 that had the
same cold start affliction (they were famous for it) but when I kept the battery
charged it fired right off.

Kurt

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:49:54 -0700
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 500 Mile Service

That is the price you pay for having a new bike.  To keep your warrany in
effect you just about have to have Kawasaki do the maintenance during the
warranty period.  You can do all the check up stuff your self but if there
is a problem later on then it will be on you.  Labor rates vary all over the
country.  The local Kaw shop here is charging $45/ hr. and I charge $35/ hr.
You could shop around but it is better to have the service done where you
bought your bike.  Good customer/ dealer relations is very important.
Fred Hink
[e-mail]
Arrowhead Motorsports
http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html
- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Kaub <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 8:39 AM
Subject: (klr650) 500 Mile Service


>Just spoke to the dealer about arrangements for the 500 mile checkup.  They
>said it will cost about $100.00!   When I asked why, he said they change
>the oil and spark plug and check 16 different items on the bike.  He was
>figuring two hours labor plus parts.
>Does this seem a little high???????
>Bob Kaub
>SUNY Binghamton
>Watson School Student Shop
>PO Box 6000
>Binghamton, NY  13902
>607-777-2715
>
>

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:52:28 -0700
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Moose Skid Plate

Pete, you need #21483 MOOSE ALUM SKID PLATE KLR650 93-4 M230. $47.95.
If you're going to get the Dual Star Centerstand you'll have to remove some of
the rear of the pan. Gino said a little over an inch. I'm going to be doing it
in a couple of days and I will measure exactly and have Bill add it to the web
page.

Kurt

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> KLR's
>
> I was looking at M/C Accessory Warehouse's web page for a Moose skid
> plate for my '97 KLR. They only list one for a 93-4 KLX (Their number
> 21500) Is this the plate I need?
>
> TIA
>
> Pete McMahon
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:18 EST
From: MORIARTPAT <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: Dirt riding tips and Tricks

In a message dated 4/1/98 6:06:00 PM, you wrote:

<<Kurt Simpson wrote:

> For my own part, I would love to see the adventurer tourers begin talking to
one
> another and let the rest of us enjoy some of their insights and experiences.
I
> would also enjoy some discussion from experienced dirt riders who could give
the
> rest of us some tips and tricks.>>

Here is my tip and trick as a very experienced dirt rider: Anything
technical on the KLR is tough, even for the good guys. Especially
if the bike is loaded up with luggage and crap. Dirt roads are one
thing, a sand wash with deep sand is another. The only way to ride
sand on a bike that heavy is to get your weight back as far as you
can and gas it and hope for the best. Tight technical trails present
a litany of problems to vast to get into here.
If you want to learn to ride in the dirt buy a "real" dirt bike.
After you've developed some technique on that then you can try to adapt
what you've learned to the KLR. Takes a bit of time.
My current "real" dirt" bike is a KX250 that has been set up for Enduros.
I am a "B" Enduro rider. The KLR scares the bejesus out of me in the dirt.
But it can be done. Being big and strong helps. I'm short, fat, weak and old,
but my technique is good so I get by.

Cheers,
Patrick
San Rafael, CA

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:15:37 EST
From: MORIARTPAT <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Back Alive From Baja, Copper Canyon, and Taco Hell!

Just wanted to say Hi to KLR listers as I've just re-subscribed to
list upon my safe return from a month in Mexico on my KLR. The bike
performed flawlessly but really wasn't the right bike for this kind
of trip, although it was good on the one dirt road we encountered in
the Copper Canyon. Most of the trip was big highway miles where
speed, comfort, wind protection and aerodynamics would be the
most important considerations. Perhaps something like that new
K1200GS would have been the ticket.

El Nino reared its ugly head in the Sierra Madre and sent us a big fat
wet, snowy cold storm that trapped us in a village for a day and allowed
me to test the KLR's ice racing capabilities.

Anyway, I plan to write something about the trip so stay tuned if you
ever wondered how long you could go a 100mph on your KLR before
you : 1. get bored  2. get tired  3. run out of gas  4. Blow up the motor
Remember: No Rules In Mexico   God Help Us!

Cheers,
Patrick
San Rafael, CA
San Francisco Northstars
98 KLR  98 VTR 1000  97 KX250  79 Tri Bonne Special  67 BSA Lightning

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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:02:10 EST
From: Cloudhid <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (klr650) Batteries

In a message dated 4/2/98 7:12:58 AM, you wrote:
>My past experience with bike batteries is that you buy a new one every year
>no matter what.
>Bob Kaub

I don't live in the frozen north, so most of my riding isn't there either.
Someone else posted that they were having a hard time getting started.
I've only had 2 occasions where it wouldn't start. One was a stuck side
stand switch, the other a low battery. The battery was cured with a
tender and proper maintenance. A lot of conditions peculiar to a bike
make life miserable for your battery. Vibration and sporadic use
are 2 of the biggies.

The combination of a cold engine and cold outside temp puts a big strain
on your battery. (Oh God...he's not going on another rant about temps is he?)
It can take 65% more juice to crank over a cold engine. Your battery's
chemical ability to make this power is reduced by as much as 20% in
cold weather. If you add to this mix a partially charged battery, you'll
be staring at your garage instead of the open road.

I don't train for arena cross on my klr, so my battery isn't subjected
to punishing jumps and bumps that way. It still gets plenty vibration
transferred to it. Anyway, with proper maintenance my batts
last at least a couple of years. (My klr stocker's still strong after
26 months).

<A HREF="http://www.yuasabatteries.com/safety.htm">maintenance & safety tips
</A>
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/safety.htm

Ron (whose brain could use a tender)

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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:37:17 -0500
From: Kovach E <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (klr650) Batteries

I installed a bmw accessory plug on the cowling that covers the side stand switch it looks and works great also I found that the 650 bmw accessory wireing harness works fine with an inline fuse.  Take your battery charger and install a male accessory plug just charge whatever bike when ever you want
cio evan

>>> Cloudhid <[e-mail]> 04/02/98 02:02PM >>>
In a message dated 4/2/98 7:12:58 AM, you wrote:
>My past experience with bike batteries is that you buy a new one every year
>no matter what.
>Bob Kaub

I don't live in the frozen north, so most of my riding isn't there either.
Someone else posted that they were having a hard time getting started.
I've only had 2 occasions where it wouldn't start. One was a stuck side
stand switch, the other a low battery. The battery was cured with a
tender and proper maintenance. A lot of conditions peculiar to a bike
make life miserable for your battery. Vibration and sporadic use
are 2 of the biggies.

The combination of a cold engine and cold outside temp puts a big strain
on your battery. (Oh God...he's not going on another rant about temps is he?)
It can take 65% more juice to crank over a cold engine. Your battery's
chemical ability to make this power is reduced by as much as 20% in
cold weather. If you add to this mix a partially charged battery, you'll
be staring at your garage instead of the open road.

I don't train for arena cross on my klr, so my battery isn't subjected
to punishing jumps and bumps that way. It still gets plenty vibration
transferred to it. Anyway, with proper maintenance my batts
last at least a couple of years. (My klr stocker's still strong after
26 months).

<A HREF="http://www.yuasabatteries.com/safety.htm">maintenance & safety tips
</A>
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/safety.htm

Ron (whose brain could use a tender)




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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:47:19 EST
From: Rcklr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Batteries

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I had to replace my stock battery last spring.  My KLR is a '93, so it had 4
good seasons under it's belt.  My wife's SECA II is also a '93 and it still
has the stock battery.  Both are working fine at this point, with no obvious
signs of weakening.  As I do live in the frozen north, these batteries get a
good workout.  During the winter months I remove them and keep them fully
charged through the winter.  I have to admit that I don't use a battery
tender, but I hope to get one (or two) this winter as I think they will work
better than the trickle charger I use.  I truly feel that batteries are like
the rest of the bike, take care of them and consider them a part of regular
maintenance and you'll be rewarded with power when you need it.

Ride Safe, and Ride Long

MN Ron

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In a message dated 4/2/98 7:12:58 AM, you wrote:
>My past experience with bike batteries is that you buy a new one every year
>no matter what.
>Bob Kaub

I don't live in the frozen north, so most of my riding isn't there either.
Someone else posted that they were having a hard time getting started.
I've only had 2 occasions where it wouldn't start. One was a stuck side
stand switch, the other a low battery. The battery was cured with a
tender and proper maintenance. A lot of conditions peculiar to a bike
make life miserable for your battery. Vibration and sporadic use
are 2 of the biggies.

The combination of a cold engine and cold outside temp puts a big strain
on your battery. (Oh God...he's not going on another rant about temps is he?)
It can take 65% more juice to crank over a cold engine. Your battery's
chemical ability to make this power is reduced by as much as 20% in
cold weather. If you add to this mix a partially charged battery, you'll
be staring at your garage instead of the open road.

I don't train for arena cross on my klr, so my battery isn't subjected
to punishing jumps and bumps that way. It still gets plenty vibration
transferred to it. Anyway, with proper maintenance my batts
last at least a couple of years. (My klr stocker's still strong after
26 months).

<A HREF="http://www.yuasabatteries.com/safety.htm">maintenance & safety tips
</A>
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/safety.htm

Ron (whose brain could use a tender)



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