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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:25:34 -0500
From: "Frank Fusco" <frankf@cox-internet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: WTC thoughts
Laarry Pendelton said,
<Our children are no longer taught history. Most of them have no clue
what
happened on December 7, 1941>
Larry, sadly I must agree with you and can say from experience that you
are correct in that statement. I wish I could say you are wrong.
For 30 years I have used the American Revolutionary Rifleman as my
personna. I have given presentations to schools, scouts, DAR and many other
civic organizations. Some years ago I had to stop appearing in schools. For
one thing, my Rev. period flintlock rifle was prohibited. And the students
simply did not know what I was referring to when I said "Revolutionary War".
It is not taught.
I asked one middle school principal about this and he said (I quote)
"Oh, we don't bother with that anymore."
Don't "bother" teaching freedom. Now THAT BOTHERS me.
Frank G. Fusco
Mountain Home, Arkansas
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:45:14 EDT
From: WSmith4100@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: FW: A TRIBUTE TO AMERICA
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AMERICA<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=WorcesterRouT lang=0 size=3 FAMILY="SERIF">America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but
only partial news coverage was <BR>given recently to a remarkable editorial
broadcast from Toronto by Gordon <BR>Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text <BR>of his trenchant remarks as
printed in the Congressional Record: <BR><BR>"This Canadian thinks it is time to
speak up for the Americans as the most <BR>generous and possibly the least
appreciated people on all the earth. <BR>Germany, Japan and, to a lesser
extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of <BR>the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and <BR>forgave other billions in
debts. None of these countries is today paying even <BR>the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States. <BR><BR>When France was in danger
of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who <BR>propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the <BR>streets of Paris. I was
there. I saw it. <BR><BR>When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is
the United States that hurries in <BR>to <BR>help. This spring, 59 American
communities were threatened by tornadoes. <BR>Nobody helped. The
Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of <BR>dollars into damaged
countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing <BR>about the decadent,
warmongering Americans. <BR><BR>I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion <BR>of the United States dollar build its own
airplane. Does any other country in <BR>the <BR>world have a plane to equal the
Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or <BR>the Douglas DC10? If so, why
don't they fly them? Why do all the <BR>International lines except Russia
fly American Planes? Why does no other <BR>land on earth even consider
putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk <BR>about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German <BR>technocracy, and you
get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, <BR>and you find men
on the moon, not once, but several times and safely home <BR>again. You talk
<BR>about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for
<BR>everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
hounded. <BR>They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are
breaking <BR>Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home
to spend <BR>here. <BR><BR>When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through <BR>age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When
the Pennsylvania Railroad <BR>and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned
them an old caboose. <BR>Both are still broke. <BR><BR>I can name you
5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other <BR>people in trouble.
Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to <BR>the Americans in
trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during <BR>the San Francisco
earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one <BR>Canadian
who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. <BR><BR>They will come
out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they <BR>are entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their <BR>present
troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America."
<BR> <BR><BR>The writer of this e-mail says, "This is one of the best
editorials that I <BR>have ever read regarding the United States. It is nice
that one man realizes <BR>it. I only wish that the rest of the world would
realize it. We seem to be <BR>blamed for everything, and don't get a thank you
for the things we do. I <BR>would hope that each of you would send this to as
many people as you can and <BR>emphasize that they should send it to as many of
their friends until this <BR>letter is sent to every person on the web. I am
just a single American that <BR>has read this, I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE READ
IT SOON. Makes you proud to <BR>live here doesn't it?" <BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=WorcesterRouT lang=0 size=4 FAMILY="SERIF"><B><I>I'm as proud
as you to be an American ... sleep well, dear ones. </FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=WorcesterRouT lang=0 size=3 FAMILY="SERIF"></B></I><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:49:11 EDT
From: WSmith4100@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Off Topic.....WTC thoughts
Thank You John.
Wade Smith
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:54:02 EDT
From: WSmith4100@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: WTC thoughts
Frank,
The shame is on "us" (Americans) all for letting it happen. We became an
ostrich with our heads in the sand. This country has had no dignity for at
least the last 8 yrs. It's high time we got our dignity back. Amen?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Sleeps Loudly
Wade Smith
Boise, Id USA
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:55:20 EDT
From: CTOAKES@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
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In a message dated 9/10/01 6:22:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gjme@negia.net
writes:
> discharge it and wipe it then load it the next morning a fresh. Anybody
>
I keep a bird feather quill in the touch hole of my flintlocks when hunting
and only pull it to prime when I have something to shoot at. So if I have a
load in at the end of the day I just keep the touch hole plugged with the
feather and the pan clean and use it the next day. It has gone off every
time this way. You must remember that it is a loaded gun and the spark from
the flint can and often will ignite the charge if the touch hole is clear
even when you do not have the pan primed so know where and how you are
storing the gun. Frizzen open and cock down if you store it over night. The
use of a feather in the touch hole dates way back as a sign of a loaded
flinter.
I never store it loaded for the third day, not that it would not work, just
my fear that I might loose a deer due to a damp load. So after the second
day I clear the load and wipe it down and start fresh.
Y.M.O.S.
C.T. Oakes
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 9/10/01 6:22:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gjme@negia.net
<BR>writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">discharge it and wipe it then load it the next morning a fresh. Anybody
<BR>do different.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>I keep a bird feather quill in the touch hole of my flintlocks when hunting
<BR>and only pull it to prime when I have something to shoot at. So if I have a
<BR>load in at the end of the day I just keep the touch hole plugged with the
<BR>feather and the pan clean and use it the next day. It has gone off every
<BR>time this way. You must remember that it is a loaded gun and the spark from
<BR>the flint can and often will ignite the charge if the touch hole is clear
<BR>even when you do not have the pan primed so know where and how you are
<BR>storing the gun. Frizzen open and cock down if you store it over night. The
<BR>use of a feather in the touch hole dates way back as a sign of a loaded
<BR>flinter.
<BR>I never store it loaded for the third day, not that it would not work, just
<BR>my fear that I might loose a deer due to a damp load. So after the second
<BR>day I clear the load and wipe it down and start fresh.
<BR>
<BR>Y.M.O.S.
<BR>
<BR>C.T. Oakes</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:27:11 -0400
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over nite muzzleloader
normally i clean my gun prior to going to hunt about 2 weeks befor the
season even if it has not been used---then opening day i load it and it
stays loaded till i make meat or fire it ---season is about 2 weeks long
or more so sometimes it stays loded several days---If i use flint i put a
feather in the toutch hole and have the frizzen always open till i am
ready to hunt and the cock down ---if i use a caplock i remove the cap
and put the hammer all the way down to seal off the hole thru the
nipple---have had one loaded for over 30 days on occasions and still no
hang fire or problems---when you clean them prior to the season or while
in camp be sure to store them upside down so all the moisture or oil
drains away from the breach---on a caplock i clean the bore good remove
the nipple and use a pipe cleaner to remove any residue or oil in the
bore---on my caplock I replace the nipple just befor leaving to go to
deer camp this lets everything dry out good and dry---on my huntig gun i
have relieved some of the material under the nipple so the powder can get
there---did the wax test to verify that i had good clearance after the
nipple is screwed in---I also like to check the nipple and remove the
burr that is usually on the under side of it and champher it a bit with
a sharp pointed knife or bur tool--I also open the nipple thru hole up
about .003 to .005 to insure real positive ignition---makes then shoot
fast without any hang no matter the condition----"caution" if you open
the nipple up too much it will make the hammer blow back to halfcock
during fireing --------in that case just change the nipple---and ream it
out smaller dia ---
a lot of the original nipples were heavily coned on the underside of the
nipple to allow powder to get there---this will increase the posibilities
of the nipple blowing back to half cock during fireing if the thru hole
is too big---my hawken has such a nipple in it thread is a odd one not
1/4 -28 which is standard---so i have to single point the threads on the
nipple and make it special if i need one---
also i swab the bore of the gun ever night but leave it loaded ---the
cap removed and or the flash hole plugged with a feather and the nipple
wiped down to insure none of the prime is left there to accidently make
it flash off---I wipe the bore down when i come back to camp with a patch
litly coated with rigg to protect the bore from rust if i am in a moiste
climate or hunting in rain which is normaal where i hunt---rain or
snow---.
nuff said---
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C)
