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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #845 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, August 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 845 In this issue: -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets/now bs -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets/now bs -áááááá MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Boys Clothing -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #844 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Boys Clothing -áááááá MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" -áááááá Fw: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" -áááááá MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: AMM Brothers Gone under -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:44:00 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets In a message dated 8/21/01 9:45:22 AM, kramer@kramerize.com writes: << My experience is that under no circumstance can you get hungry enough to eat magpie; phtuuii, spit, spit, spit. >> Thanks John.....I'm feelin warm and fuzzy...<G> Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:49:00 -0700 From: "rtlahti" <rtlahti@msn.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets/now bs Magpie, If you don't show us where the elk are, likely is you ain't gonna get on account as we will likely have to shoot it for you. Beings how your eye sight is so poor for sewing and such. Now that I think about it, how come they let you teamster them big sky birds if your sight is so poorly? Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:00:30 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets - --part1_86.e8a959e.28b4420e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Magpie I have Country Music CD with a song about the coyote (magpie) of the sky Keep your nose to the wind Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_86.e8a959e.28b4420e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>Magpie I have Country Music CD with a song about the coyote (magpie) of the sky Keep your nose to the wind Mark "Roadkill" Loader</HTML> - --part1_86.e8a959e.28b4420e_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:01:25 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets/now bs In a message dated 8/21/01 3:46:30 PM, rtlahti@msn.com writes: << Beings how your eye sight is so poor for sewing and such. Now that I think about it, how come they let you teamster them big sky birds if your sight is so poorly? >> Dinna say I was blind! ....jest can't see where the needle is comin through the leather! Hell....I can even see the tiny hole where I was poked...once I wipe the blood away...<G> I'll show you boys where the elk are cause I'm gonna need some packers to git mine back to camp... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:16:43 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous - --part1_62.12e292ef.28b445db_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello the camp Stopped at the site this summer and did the river-stone walk. I thought it was great. Lots of information and a great way to go back in time. For those who have not you should. It is a walking trail on the old rendezvous site with river stones engraved with the names of those that were at the original rendezvous a plaque near each stone with a quote by that person about the rendezvous. Who put this together and did the engraving. Let no Stone go unturned Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_62.12e292ef.28b445db_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML>Hello the camp Stopped at the site this summer and did the river-stone walk. I thought it was great. Lots of information and a great way to go back in time. For those who have not you should. It is a walking trail on the old rendezvous site with river stones engraved with the names of those that were at the original rendezvous a plaque near each stone with a quote by that person about the rendezvous. Who put this together and did the engraving. Let no Stone go unturned Mark "Roadkill" Loader</HTML> - --part1_62.12e292ef.28b445db_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:21:16 -0400 From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Brass grommets "I'm feelin warm and fuzzy...<G>" Magpie, That "fuzzy" is down that hasn't been singed and the warm is a cook fire..<G> D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:23:35 -0600 From: "Thomas Ballstaedt" <tphsb@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Boys Clothing hi wynn; i'd start em out with leggings and a breech clout and a long drop sleeve shirt. leggins for a boy or boys wouldn't take to much leather or time to make. tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gretchen Ormond" <leona3@sourceoneinternet.com> To: "Hist mail" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:05 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Boys Clothing > I am curious about both authentic and acceptable clothing for boys. My > oldest is > five so that would be a good place to start. Is there much or any > documentation available for what those half breed brats wore? > > Wynn Ormond > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:17:44 EDT From: Hawkengun@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous I'm not sure who did the stonework, but there is a Riverton Rendezvous Assoc. that probably financed it. They hold a ronnyvoo every 4th of July week. Riverton, besides being the site of the 1830 and 1830 rendezvous' is also home to Jake Korell, the most genuine trapper/packer/Indian trader/mountain man still living and breathing. (Just my opinion, of course, but I'll stick to it) John Sweet - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:57:24 EDT From: Hawkengun@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous 1830 and 1838 it should have said - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:51:36 -0700 (PDT) From: m mitchell <milicien@yahoo.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #844 - --0-1615961418-998488296=:8781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline to: hist_text-digest <owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com> Please Post: Does anyone have an address or know "Three Fingers"? I met him at Polebridge last month. He took some photos of the archery competition that I would like to obtain. YMHOS, Michel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - --0-1615961418-998488296=:8781-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:12:32 EDT From: HikingOnThru@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Boys Clothing In a message dated 8/21/01 7:57:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, leona3@sourceoneinternet.com writes: << half breed brats wore >> I have seen references to children that young wearing older shirts tied at the waist and that come to their knees in some camps. Can't remember exactly where...will have to recheck that source. - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:32:01 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" Hello the fire; Anyone out there know how the "galls" from the Oak tree were used in tanning ? What stage of the development of the gall was used? Fresh or dried ?? Or both ? I picked up about 2 gallon today.There are a lot more still in the trees. I also (in the back of my mind) think I remember my Granddad saying they were used as a dye "kinda" like Walnuts. Any help ??? thanks, George ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:16:13 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <amm1585@hyperusa.com> Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" George Go to Google.com (the best search engine I know of) and enter a search for (don't forget the quotes) "oak galls". I got 760 hits, including several for making ink and some others for making dyes. I did NOT look at all 760 hits so happy hunting. I cut/pasted a couple of the hits below. YMOS Lanney Ratcliff Re: Home-made inks ... on the surface. Tannic acid soaked out of oak galls, combined with ferrous sulfate and gum arabic, makes a brown to black ink. The essential chemistry of this ... palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform/mailing-lists/bookarts/1997/ 10/msg00274.html - 5k - Cached - Similar pages Bugs n Galls ... many galls are high in protein and have been utilized for livestock feed. Tannic acid in oak galls has found uses in tanning leather, dyes, inks and medicines. www.dcnr.state.pa.us/kids/bugsgalls.htm - 5k - Cached - Similar pages Black in Period ... Black ink as used in illuminations was made with the combination of oak galls, water and iron salts (ferrous sulphate). To make it into ink, a few spoonfuls of ... www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/5459/bliaut4.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages - ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Noe" <gnoe39@yahoo.com> To: "hist_ text" <hist_text@xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" > Hello the fire; > Anyone out there know how the "galls" from the Oak > tree were used in tanning ? > What stage of the development of the gall was used? > Fresh or dried ?? Or both ? I picked up about 2 gallon > today.There are a lot more still in the trees. > I also (in the back of my mind) think I remember my > Granddad saying they were used as a dye "kinda" like > Walnuts. > Any help ??? > thanks, George > > ===== > George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:05:49 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" If this is a double, I appologise! The first one didn't seem to get through. I am wondering if anyone knows how to use the "galls" from Oak trees for tanning? I think I remember my Grandad telling they were used in tanning, and (I think) as a dye. My grandkids and I gathered about a gallon and a half today and there are still some in the trees for future picking. Any "thoughts' ???? George ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:20:38 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: AMM Brothers Gone under - --part1_64.12431125.28b6dbb6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello the camp Next years national will be on our new land hosted by the Baker party and it= =20 looks like it will be Memorial Day week. It might be appropriate to remember= =20 AMM Brothers that have gone under at that time. We are asking your help to=20 make a list: Name, camp name, AMM number, age, and year of passing. Bring in the wood and help the Baker Party Mark "Roadkill" Loader =A0=A0 - --part1_64.12431125.28b6dbb6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML>Hello the camp Next years national will be on our new land hosted by the Baker party an= d it=20 looks like it will be Memorial Day week. It might be appropriate to reme= mber=20 AMM Brothers that have gone under at that time. We are asking your help=20= to=20 make a list: Name, camp name, AMM number, age, and year of passing. Bring in the wood and help the Baker Party Mark "Roadkill" Loader =A0=A0</HTML> - --part1_64.12431125.28b6dbb6_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:08:27 -0600 From: Kierst Family <kierst@taosnet.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Oak Tree "Galls" Dont take it personle if everyons alittle reluctant, Gorge. I think we're all still getting over the walnut dye fiasco wich went on for (or atleast felt like) acouple hundred e-mails. If I'd known what an up roar it caused I might have thought twice about posting it. Dirty Shirt >If this is a double, I appologise! The first one >didn't seem to get through. > I am wondering if anyone knows how to use the "galls" >from Oak trees for tanning? > I think I remember my Grandad telling they were used >in tanning, and (I think) as a dye. > My grandkids and I gathered about a gallon and a half >today and there are still some in the trees for future >picking. > Any "thoughts' ???? > George > >===== >George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > >Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #845 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.