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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:28:09 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus
"Best, Dianne" wrote:
>
> Yup, our company's anti-virus software is so damned sophisticated that you
> can't even receive an executable file if it has been renamed to something
> else. The software is "Trend OfficeScan" and it recognizes something in the
> code and wont even accept the attachment from the Net - it just blows it
> away - which is a pain when it is legit software....
>
> We used to have MacAfee, until the "Love Bug" got through and took our
> corporate network of 4,000 users down for the better part of a week!
> Usually, around here, it takes forever to get anything new approved,
> purchased, and delivered. Sure is funny how quick we got new anti-virus
> software!
>
> Keep warm! Spring will come eventually....
MOST virus' spread via MickySoft's Outlook and Outlook express. The use
of a different mailer would have SAVED your Co. from affecting 4,000
users. Replacing M$ with Linux would eliminate ALL risk.
Fred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:29:13 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus
LivingInThePast@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/13/01 9:46:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> pat_quilter@qscaudio.com writes:
>
> << Some systems appear to have deleted the enclosure automatically. >>
>
> yep, those running up-to-date virus scanners, and also those which do NOT use
> MickeySoft mailer programs like outlook and outlook express. Maybe the only
> saving grace to AOL is the fact that these type of mail-borne infections
> don't work with their mail program. Barn
That's "Lookout" not "Outlook." :)
Fred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:36:15 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus
Todd wrote:
>
> FYI. VBS is a visual basic script. This is executable code, meaning if you click on it, it's going to run. MicroSoft systems automatically know how to execute this kind of code, and you've just launched a hackers attack at your box. Unless one of your friends is a programmer, they probably wouldn't be sending you VBS, and even if they ARE programmers, they'll probably use something else. VBS is a preferred language for teenage hackers. It's simple, efficient, and runs on any MicroSoft machine.
> Any more, I have to be expecting something from one of my friends, or it HAS to be in a recognized format, and even then, I scan it. Anymore, that even includes pictures in bmp or jog format.
> I work for a software company, and the kind of crap that people are coming up with is pretty impressive from a technical point of view. From a personal point of view, these people ought to be drawn and quartered.
>
Be advised that VERY soon, IMHO, virus' will come in the form of HTLM
mail. It's just that no one has sent a virus out in this manner yet.
Many mailers don't have a provision to turn off HTML display of incoming
mail, that is PLAIN TEXT ONLY. And, once again, the attack will be
targeted for MickySoft systems.
Fred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:40:50 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend!
Addison Miller wrote:
>
> Install ZoneAlarm for security. >
> > Fred
>
> Where can I find Zone Alarm??
Here's the site: http://www.zonelabs.com
Fred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:43:03 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend!
"Paul W. Jones" wrote:
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> TrapRJohn:
>
> Thanks for the posting about Zone Alarm. Have been looking for a good
> firewall program and intend to check this one out. However, I have a
> question. As some of the personal info that goes out relates to on-going
> relationships, for example, I pay several of my credit cards on-line, and
> the bank computers need to verify certain info from my account which is
> stored on "cookies" in my computer, or when I buy a book from Amazon their
> computer uses "cookies" about my account when I am paying for a
> purchase-----can you pick and choose which cookies you let go out (and in)
> as I do not wish to disrupt this type of computer/account?
Paul, Zonealarm will ask you if it's "OK" for a given site to
communicate with your "box." You can either answer yes each time, or you
can make "rule" (check box) so you don't have to each time.....simple.
Fred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:40:28 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@telusplanet.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: OT: Darwin Award for viruses
I got an e-mail this morning that consisted of an attachment and nothing
else. The subject heading? "Please open--virus warning." If it really was a
virus warning (which I doubt! I didn't know the sender), the sender richly
deserves a Darwin Award; the subject & method of sending (an attachment,
instead of plain text) guaranteed that it got deleted & trashed
immediately. I would have done trashed _that_ one even if it came from my
mother...
And if it really is a virus, anyone who gets infected deserves whatever
havoc it might wreak. Darwin Awards either way!
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:56:06 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@telusplanet.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Music to build guns by
What do you listen to for inspiration at home, or on your way to an event?
Now that we're in the February doldrums, I thought I might suggest some
songs from a kind of sub-genre of modern folk music--songs on historic
subjects, often written in an historic style. Since this stuff is outside
of the mainstream of radio play, and isn't sold by sutlers, I thought list
members might be interested. Songs marked * are highly recommended.
PIRATE ANTHEM
* "Traighli Bay" (about happy, successful pirates) by Tanglefoot, on their
CD _Saturday Night in Hardwood Lake_
COLONIAL
* "Awkward Donald" (about a clumsy man's unlikely courtship) by Tanglefoot,
on their CD _The Music in the Wood_
* "Let the Piper Play" (about Scottish emigrants sailing to Halifax in
1770), by Tanglefoot on _Full-Throated Abandon_
* "Maid on the Shore" (traditional), by Stan Rogers, on _Fogarty's Cove_
AMERICAN REVOLUTION
* "Loyal She Remains" (about Loyalist refugees), by Tamarack, on _Frobisher
Bay_
* "Barrett's Privateers" (about an ill-fated Canadian privateer), by Stan
Rogers, on _Between the Breaks...Live!_ and _Fogarty's Cove_
"Fire and Guns" (heartbreaker about Loyalist refugees), by Tanglefoot, on
_Saturday Night in Hardwood Lake_
"Le Sargent" (about Quebeckers fighting for the Patriots--mostly in
French), by Tamarack on CD _Leaving Inverarden_
VOYAGEURS & FUR TRADE
* "La V'la M'amie" (traditional voyageur song) by Tanglefoot on _The Music
in the Wood_
* "Northwest Passage" (about fur trade explorers, but an inspiration to all
reenactors!), by Stan Rogers on _Northwest Passage_
"Chippewa Smile" (about a fur trader's love for his Ojibway country
wife), by Tamarack on _13_
"Red River Carts", by Tamarack on _13_
"Leaving Inverarden" (about Nor'wester John Macdonald of Garth), by
Tamarack on _Leaving Inverarden_
"Magdalen McGillivray" (Scottish wife of North West Company head,
William McGillivray), by Tamarack on _Leaving Inverarden_
"Loup Garou" by Tanglefoot on _The Music in the Wood_
WAR OF 1812
* "Secord's Warning" (about Canadian heroine Laura Secord, but an
inspiration to all Canadians and female reenactors of 1812), by Tanglefoot,
on _The Music in the Wood_
* "The Nancy" (a Great Lakes schooner which took part in two naval
engagements), by Stan Rogers, on _From Fresh Water_
* "Our White Man's Word" (about the burning of the longhouses), by
Tamarack, on _On the Grand_
* "Pawpine" (about a slave who fought for the Crown in 1774 & 1812), by
Tamarack, on _On the Grand_
"The Virginia Brand" (about an ex-soldier(?) and another soldier's
widow), by Tamarack, on _On the Grand_
"Billy Green" (about a civilian Canadian hero), by Stan Rogers, on _From
Coffee House to Concert Hall_
"MacDonnell on the Heights" (about Gen. Brock's successor at the Battle
of Queenston Heights), by Stan Rogers, on _From Fresh Water_
Where can you buy the CDs?
Tamarack: http://www.sentex.net/%7Egormorse/JamesGordon.html and
http://www.interlog.com/~pmsinc/
Tanglefoot: http://www.tanglefootmusic.com/
The Rankins, Stan Rogers: www.hmv.com
Any other suggestions? I'd love to hear 'em.
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:18:08 -0800
From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award
He had fired a blank load at close range at
> another partygoer with a .44 bp revolver just before he shot and killed
his
> roommate with the bp rifle & cigarette butts.
>
> Naturally, there was a bit of alcohol involved with the stupidity. The
> story is at
Actually this sort of thing has happened before. Not that many years ago a
young buckskinner friend of mine found himself in Texas as a new member of
the Army. Being from a BP family and background he searched out similar
activities down there. At one of his first outings with his new
acquaintances, one young buck pulled out his cap and ball revolver and fired
it from a short distance point blank at my young friend. It was loaded with
a blank charge/wad and just stung his tummy a bit. But my young friend
wasn't amused and when he got through with the fella with the cap and ball
revolver, that young man was not having fun at all.
Needless to say, my friend did not associate with that bunch of buckaroos
any more.
Back to really old history.
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:44:37 -0700
From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus
I was introduced to these guys on the canoe trip last year, and I
like Linda, want more!
mike.
Linda Holley wrote:
> Thanks for the Sven and Ole joke. Have not heard a good one since the La
> Junta 1978 rend. Love those guys. Always laugh and you did it with such
> a good accent.
>
> Linda Holley
>
> Jim Lindberg wrote:
>
> > Sorry, couldn't resist:
> >
> > Sven and Ole here,
> >
> > Yew have yust received da Sven & Ole Computer Virus.
> > Because ve don't know how to program computers, dis virus verks
> > on da honor system. Please delete all da files on yewr hard drive
> > manually and forward dis message to everyvon on yewr mailing list.
> >
> > Tank yew fer yewr cooperation.
> >
> > Sven and Ole
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