Subject: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
Hello the list,
I would like the collective wisdom of the group. My husband and I are
planning a trip to Yellowstone next year. We want to go to several Voo
events on the way out and back. We don't want to pack all our camping
gear, modern and period, for the trip.
What experience do you all have with camping in a modern campground with
period gear? Does it attract too much attention? Is it safe to leave camp to
go exploring? We have no problems or worries at a re-enacting event, but
are afraid the place will be stripped if we don't stay in camp all the time when
we need to camp in a modern campground.
Am I being paranoid, or are these concerns real? Any advice or experience
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sue Gilbert
6 Beaver Camp
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:14:37 -0700
From: louis.l.sickler@lmco.com
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
Hello Sue,
My first question is, if you have all your camping gear with you, why are you staying in a camp ground at all? In the national forest, you can camp almost anywhere you want to. I have camped all over the Rocky Mtn west my entire life and have only stayed in a campground a handful of times. But, if you must, let me say that I have also NEVER had any problems with leaving my camp behind while I spent the day exploring. Around here, if you venture too far into anyone's "space", you better be prepared to defend yourself. I would never imagine poking around someone's tent when not invited. The thought of picking buck shot from my behind and everywhere else is not something I would enjoy.
Anyway, a primitive camp in a modern campground does attract some attention. My family camps with most all of our primitive accoutrements on a regular basis. I've met some great people who just wanted to come and see what was going on.
One tip, though, I don't leave very expensive things in or around my tent when leaving for the day. My precious semi-custom flintlock goes with me.
Are you traveling through Colorado? If you want some places to camp that are "off the beaten path", contact me off list and I can probably steer you to some places that not too many pork eaters even know about.
Have a great trip,
Lou SIckler
Colorado Territory
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Gilbert [SMTP:sgilbert@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:44 PM
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
>
> Hello the list,
>
> I would like the collective wisdom of the group. My husband and I are
> planning a trip to Yellowstone next year. We want to go to several Voo
> events on the way out and back. We don't want to pack all our camping
> gear, modern and period, for the trip.
> What experience do you all have with camping in a modern campground with
> period gear? Does it attract too much attention? Is it safe to leave camp to
> go exploring? We have no problems or worries at a re-enacting event, but
> are afraid the place will be stripped if we don't stay in camp all the time when
> we need to camp in a modern campground.
> Am I being paranoid, or are these concerns real? Any advice or experience
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Sue Gilbert
> 6 Beaver Camp
>
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:38:51 -0800
From: "Larry Huber" <shootsprairie@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
Dear Sue,
If you have a tent with door flaps that tie, you are about as safe as
you can expect to be in a public place. I generally camp with a tarp
lean-to with all my gear exposed but that is only when camping with my party
away from public campgrounds. When I go to Rendezvous that admit the
public, I take a wedge tent so I can tie my door flaps shut. This should
say "stay out-private" to most folks. If you camp in a tipi be prepared
for visitors no matter if you close the door or not. Now most of my
experience has been with the public that go to events that expecting to see
primitive gear. They think their day-pass entitles them to free-access to
everything. It's important to be around to explain "canvas courtesies" to
them. I haven't camped much in public campgrounds in primitive gear except
for hunting camps. I admit to a paranoia about public campgrounds and
generally require a "camp guard" be left behind (Dog, wife, surly friend).
Louis, here, has had different experiences and I hope his version of the
world is the correct one. I agree that you should lock valuable stuff up in
the car, out of sight. Canvas is only as thick as a person's conscience.
Larry Huber
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From: <louis.l.sickler@lmco.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern
setting?
> Hello Sue,
>
> My first question is, if you have all your camping gear with you, why
are you staying in a camp ground at all? In the national forest, you can
camp almost anywhere you want to. I have camped all over the Rocky Mtn west
my entire life and have only stayed in a campground a handful of times.
But, if you must, let me say that I have also NEVER had any problems with
leaving my camp behind while I spent the day exploring. Around here, if
you venture too far into anyone's "space", you better be prepared to defend
yourself. I would never imagine poking around someone's tent when not
invited. The thought of picking buck shot from my behind and everywhere
else is not something I would enjoy.
>
> Anyway, a primitive camp in a modern campground does attract some
attention. My family camps with most all of our primitive accoutrements on
a regular basis. I've met some great people who just wanted to come and see
what was going on.
>
> One tip, though, I don't leave very expensive things in or around my tent
when leaving for the day. My precious semi-custom flintlock goes with me.
>
> Are you traveling through Colorado? If you want some places to camp that
are "off the beaten path", contact me off list and I can probably steer you
to some places that not too many pork eaters even know about.
>
> Have a great trip,
>
> Lou SIckler
> Colorado Territory
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Susan Gilbert [SMTP:sgilbert@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:44 PM
> > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern
setting?
> >
> > Hello the list,
> >
> > I would like the collective wisdom of the group. My husband and I are
> > planning a trip to Yellowstone next year. We want to go to several Voo
> > events on the way out and back. We don't want to pack all our camping
> > gear, modern and period, for the trip.
> > What experience do you all have with camping in a modern campground with
> > period gear? Does it attract too much attention? Is it safe to leave
camp to
> > go exploring? We have no problems or worries at a re-enacting event,
but
> > are afraid the place will be stripped if we don't stay in camp all the
time when
> > we need to camp in a modern campground.
> > Am I being paranoid, or are these concerns real? Any advice or
experience
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sue Gilbert
> > 6 Beaver Camp
> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:53:03 EST
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
> One tip, though, I don't leave very expensive things in or around my tent
> when leaving for the day. My precious semi-custom flintlock goes with me.
Louis,
I think she said she was going to Yellowstone. Perhaps the thought of
carrying a firearm into said park should be addressed. Good way to end up in
jail with a felony conviction hanging over your head and all your gear
confiscated. I don't know about other national parks, but guns ain't allowed
in Yellowstone.
Dave Kanger
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:25:41 -0600
From: "northwoods" <northwoods@ez-net.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
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> . I don't know about other national parks, but guns ain't allowed
> in Yellowstone.
I think that if you left them cased and in your automobile it wouldn't be a
problem.
northwoods
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:21:44 -0800
From: Randal J Bublitz <randybublitz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Question about camping with period gear in modern setting?
Hi Susan, All I have is 'primitive' camping gear. I have camped
in public campgrounds, and Nat. Forest type campgrounds with it. I have
not received much extra attention due to my camp equip.. I find that
most folks politely ignore you, except for your immediate 'neighbors'.
They are usually just being polite when giving any attention. I would
not leave anything especially valuable in a nylon, or canvas, tent.
Either will only keep an honest person honest. So, I say...go for it....
don't be embarrassed. Be Proud. hardtack
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:37:05 -0700
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:32:39 -0600
Ho the list
Beware that there is a worm being circulated. Email with attachments =
from Bruce Mikesell is one source. Bruce's computer is down because of =
the problem and possibly Larry Pendleton's too. =20
It is always a good idea not to open attachments from people you don't =
know, but someone you DO know might be passing along a worm without =
knowing about it. Remember the KAK worm last year? I have an online, =
continously updated virus scan (McAfeel.com) that has kept me clean =
since I got it. That and other scan programs seem to work.
Just a Word of Caution
Lanney Ratcliff
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:49:13 -0800 (PST)
From: S Jones <deafstones@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:32:39 -0600
- --- Ratcliff <rat@htcomp.net> wrote:
> Ho the list
> Beware that there is a worm being circulated. Email with attachments
> from Bruce Mikesell is one source. Bruce's computer is down because of
> the problem and possibly Larry Pendleton's too.
> It is always a good idea not to open attachments from people you don't
> know, but someone you DO know might be passing along a worm without
> knowing about it. Remember the KAK worm last year? I have an online,
> continously updated virus scan (McAfeel.com) that has kept me clean
> since I got it. That and other scan programs seem to work.
> Just a Word of Caution
> Lanney Ratcliff
For an excellent free virus scan, try, Computer Associates' InoculateIT
Personal Edition
http://antivirus.cai.com/
For business use, you have to pay. For private use, it's free and IMHO,
better than Norton's and McAfee, no offense to Lanney. *grin*
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deafstones
The most merciful thing in the world . . . is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.
