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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #588 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, July 11 2000 Volume 01 : Number 588 In this issue: -áááááá MtMan-List: Buck -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Re: List is slow - [OFF TOPIC]] -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: List is slow - [OFF TOPIC] -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM Nationals -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá MtMan-List: In the belly of a tiger -áááááá MtMan-List: Invitation only gets tougher -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver part deux -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá MtMan-List: Pistol -áááááá MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC - Buck's Grand Uncle, Patriot movie -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Invitation only gets tougher -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: about the list -áááááá MtMan-List: Rust on the camp set.... -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Pistol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:23:14 -0400 From: "John Hunt" <jhunt1@one.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Buck Buck, thanks for sharing your grandfather`s brother with us. John (BIG JOHN) Hunt longhunter mountainman Southwest, Ohio - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:58:12 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Karl Kroll, You sound like a pot calling a kettle black saying that JB Sierra is = pushing his views on others. You two should exchange email addresses = and discuss this issue to your hearts' content......with each other Lanney Ratcliff - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:09:04 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" <frankf@centurytel.net> Subject: MtMan-List: about the list Sorry to have to say this, but the list seems to have evaporated into almost nothingness. I would suggest that it could be helped by limiting the length of posts, no more text books on history events, eliminate the repetition of posts which sometimes reappear 2, 3, four or more times. Eliminate, if possible, the messages sent in incomprehensible html format. This is [was] too good a discussion list to see go away, it covers a slice of history that relatively few Americans are aware of, much less understand. Our cussin' and discussin' is important to preserving that historical memory. We need a discussion to get started. Here is a kicker....... 'I think artificial sinew is authentically correct.' Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:20:43 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: about the list Here is a kicker....... 'I think artificial sinew is authentically correct.' Yeah, especially if it used to sew a polyester frock... - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:50:36 -0700 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Re: List is slow - [OFF TOPIC]] buck if you need anything on the ft---suggest you contact steve anderson at ft de chart (SP) ---he works there and is the son of Dan anderson---he has all the history of the fort and lots of pictures and other stuff---not much steave doesnt know---he is also on the address line here in this post--- his email address is: blkpowdr@htc.net steve sorry if i took your name in vain but you may be able to help buck in this--- HAWK On 10 Jul 2000 20:23:05 -0700 buck.conner@uswestmail.net writes: > On Mon, 10 July 2000, "Addison Miller" wrote: > > Thanks for sharing that with us, Buck... I always love a good > story, especially when it is family history. > > > > Ad Miller > > ---------------------- > > Thanks Ad, > > I really liked this post before we got [OFF TOPIC], the LaSalle > venture is very interesting, got to talk to some of the gentlemen > that made a trek/canoe trip following their path in 1988 or 1989 at > Ft. deChartre, ILL, very interesting. Anybody got more information > on the original or follow ups on this !!! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Forwarded by David Graybill/MOS/STL/HARCOURT on > 07/10/2000 04:29 PM --------------------------- > > From: David Graybill on 06/05/2000 12:49 PM > > To: traphand@aol.com > cc: > Subject: More on Fort Orleans > > From www.ukans.edu/carrie/kancol > > About the close of the year 1714, M. Du Tissenet [11], a young > Canadian,arrived at the post of Mobile to enter the service of M. > Crozat. He brought with him specimens of lead from the mines in the > neighborhood of Kaskaskia, which had been given to him by his > countrymen who resided at that place. > > These specimens he tool to M. De la Motte, and on being assayed they > were found to contain some silver. > > He afterward took charge of a grant of land, where he remained until > M. Crozat was succeeded by Law,and M. De Boisbriant was appointed > Governor of the Illinois district of Louisiana. In October, 1718, > M......... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Later. > Buck Conner > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "One who trades" "Uno quien negocia" "Unquil Commerce" > English Spanish French > * Phila * St.Louis * Trade West * > Aux Aliments de Pays! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account > http://www.uswestmail.net > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html "HAWK" Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C) 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815 E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:19:05 -0700 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: List is slow - [OFF TOPIC] buck--- awsome documentation---gad you be a post movie mogel of a neat personna--- if you get by Ft smith look at the pictures in the courthouse---one is my great-great grandad---he worked for hanging Judge Parker as a territorial marshal in indian territory his last name is "piercing cry" changed to pierce by the family in the early 1900's---due to the dislike of indians names in that area at the time---need to get into the picture box at the house in St louis the next time i'm there and see what i have---his son rode with the cody show also and there is some pictures there with writing on the back showing that and there is one with cody and a bunch of the guys---may have one that may include your Kin---he also became a depity after being in the show in madison county ark---in that time span and was always doing tricks and showing off with his piecemaker--- My great great grandad is also buried in a unmarked grave over in the edge of okla---with 6 men that he killed that he was bringing in for the judge---they jumped him and he killed them---2 with his knife as the story goes---his piecemaker was empty and he still had his knife in his hand according to my great great grandmother's storey line---when she took me to the grave sight there in okla---I guess I and my brother are the only ones that know where he is buried now ---always wanted to go there with a metal detector and see what i could find---never had a chance. and with the new laws now it may be a problem---since the area could be consisered as a historical area--- i guess that is the results of not giving in too easy---(GBG) Just my umbel opinion of course--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C) 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815 E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:07:26 -0700 From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM Nationals - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fusco" <frankf@centurytel.net> To: "AMM" <hist_text@xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:09 AM Subject: MtMan-List: about the list > We need a discussion to get started. Here is a kicker....... 'I think > artificial sinew is authentically correct.' > Frank G. Fusco > Mountain Home, Arkansas Frank, Come on now. You can do better than that. Sure it's correct for this age if you're not wanting to depict an earlier age. Guess you'll get no argument from me. <G> I recently participated in an AMM National Rendezvous and in the early part of the week, took a few hardy souls out on a "rescue mission" to see what happend to a hunting party we had sent out earlier with expectations of their early return. We eventually came upon fresh sign of hostiles and shortly joined in battle with said hostiles and our pinned down hunting party. During the Battle, one of our group complained of ignition problems. Since his flint lock would not fire, I assigned him to take care of the wounded once the victim had been dragged to safety. He approached me back in camp with rifle in hand asking for my opinion as to why it wasn't going off. There were a couple problems like a weak main spring and of course the fouling from the couple shots he had gotten off. I noticed his removable touchhole liner was backed out about a 1/16th" and asked for a screw driver. I couldn't reach the slot in the liner with the lock in so that was removed. When I went to screw the liner back in, it slid in with the touch of the screw driver! NO THREAD ENGAGEMENT! There was little that could be done in camp to fix the problem but my best advice for those of you who have removable liners is take them out, throw them away and replace with a fixed liner, preferably a 3/8-32 White Lightning Liner from Jim Chambers or equivilant. Liners were not meant to be removed. Originals either didn't have liners (coned from the inside by a special right angle coning tool) or had permanently installed fixed liners that never came out unless they burned out. Now that I think about it, I recall that the rear of the lock plate was torqued out, perhaps from the pressure of the main charge ignition pusing the liner out against the inside of the pan. Thankfully the liner was mounted so that a portion of it was below the bottom of the pan. Be safe. I remain........... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:10:05 -0400 From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: about the list 'I think artificial sinew is authentically correct.' Frank, I agree, but I have been in front of a white hot fire for several hours and my brain is sightly cooked....<G> What is your excuse?<G> D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:32:08 -0500 From: "Karl Kroll" <karl@intercompco.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 With all due respect, for JBSierra to criticize Paul Harvey's article because Paul Harvey implies that evolution is not a fact, is a good example evolution being a faith-based religion itself. Some evolutionists even stick a "fish with feet" to the back of their cars, similar to the Christian fish symbol. During my education as a Mechanical Engineer, I was taught the scientific method. Basically get an idea and gather as much information as possible and see if the information backs up your original hypothesis. Evolutionists make a change to this method and rationalize or ignore the evidence that they don't want to see and state evidence that they like as fact. NOVA the PBS TV show aired a program that was supposed to solve the little problem that evolutionists have with flight. Two "scientists" were arguing if birds evolved by jumping out of trees or if they flapped their arms while running away from predators. Think of the logic of this argument, I would like to test the ideas by having the "jumper" jump out of trees and have the "flapper" flap his arms while running away from bears, and see which "scientist" passes on more genetics. At the end of the program, the jumper said "we know the birds fly, so they had have jumped out of trees, until there is a better explination." I wonder if these smart people have ever thought that the sudden appearance of birds and other flying creatures in the fossil record point to a different conclusion. We can all be thankful that scientists and engineers designing cars do not use this illogical method to test their designs. I have twice heard Ira Flato, (spelling?) of NPR, say that snow has finished evolving because it is white, because if it were not white life would not exist. So what if "gene mapping say that all living creatures share 99.9% of the same genetic material." If an ingenious design works, that is so complex that humans may not ever fully understand it, why not use it on all designs. Like Paul Harvey am I must be "sunk in my own ignorance, bias, and religious dogma" not to have the faith to believe in the following: All animals are related, (jelly fish is related to a mountain goat) even though there has never been a single bone or fossil found showing an undisputed change occurring such as a fish growing an arm. That birds evolved from crocodiles without leaving a fossil record. (Look on an evolutionary "tree" and you will see a branch from crocodiles to birds. Never mind the thousands of flying insects) Males and females of all species evolved separately but were still able to mate for billions of years. "Modern humans" have been around for millions of years but the furthest any evolutionist can stretch any evidence of "modern" human existence is "50,000 year old" cave paintings in France. If "we" have been on this planet for 10 million years or more don't you think that humans would have had cities or invented the airplane 50,000 years ago? Animals left and right sides of animals evolved to be the same all by chance. Don't forget there is no "foreword feedback" an animal has to be born with a defect, and then if it helps pass it on to their offspring. So in order for an fish to start growing arms it has to first get an arm growing somewhere, it could be on its head or out of its tail. Were are the animals that are still evolving? Where are the land animals that are in the process of developing an eye on one side of their body? Where are the animals that have not yet evolved both eyes? Lets give three eyes a try. How would an ear for example evolve? Without all parts of the ear working together, the ear is useless. We don't even know how the ear differentiates higher frequencies. Did you know that our brain and ear evolved calculus to determine loudness? Did you know that we evolved accelerometers to measure acceleration? Did you know that if our ears worked any "better" they would be worse because we would hear air molecules bouncing around. (So they must be done evolving.) Do I even have to mention how crucial the balance in the earth, atmosphere, water, and universe is? Have you ever had to take care of a swimming pool? Do you think an ocean would be slightly tougher to maintain a balance? Both creationists and evolutionist have the same problem of where the matter and energy came from to create the universe in the first place. I could go on and on, and I know evolutionists have odd fossils that "show" a change occurring, with a little faith thrown in, and I know they will say that I just don't know enough about biology to know that no transitional fossil forms exist. But they are always faith based rationalizations and excuses. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:17:19 EDT From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 > I could go on and on, and I know evolutionists have odd fossils that "show" > a change occurring, with a little faith thrown in, and I know they will say > that I just don't know enough about biology to know that no transitional > fossil forms exist. But they are always faith based rationalizations and > excuses. Pointless observations: Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. All animals adapt (evolve) to survive in their environnment. Those that don't die (habitat, shelter, food, predators) Fossils only form where conditions are condusive for their formation. A lack of a fossil record proves nothing. Adam and Eve had two children.....one killed the other. Who sired the rest of humanity? Incestuous relationships often sire feeble-minded offspring. Those offspring become obvious in this thread. What does this have to do with the Mountain Man, or has someone discovered a fossil of a mountain man in the stomach of a sabre-toothed tiger? - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:19:21 -0600 From: David Mullen <dmullen@jemez.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Mr. Kroll, With all due respect this is not the appropriate forum for this discussion. If you would like to pursue this discussion please do so off list and in private with Mr. Sierra. Thank You, David Mullen - -- David Mullen 202 Mesa Verde Jemez Springs, NM 87025 (505) 829-3212 email: dmullen@jemez.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:30:53 -0400 From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: about the list With a machine. Ratcliff wrote: > Here is a kicker....... 'I think > artificial sinew is authentically correct.' > > Yeah, especially if it used to sew a polyester frock... > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:45:39 -0700 From: "atthesea" <atthesea@gte.net> Subject: MtMan-List: In the belly of a tiger Hello the wandering list: Am guessing that when the fossil record shows that a mountain man was indeed found in the belly of a sabre toothed tiger that 39% of list members will question whether the man had historically correct items on his person, 41% will relate a story about the mountain man they found, 8% will ponder whether the man found was actually from the appropriate time period, 6% will worry about the location of the find and whether it constituted the right area to be considered an actual mountain man, and the rest of us, being pure and absolute newbys will wonder, what the h--l is that about anyway? Regards, John Barber in sunny Coos Bay, Oregon (also lookin' for a name...be nice!) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:06:31 -0700 (PDT) From: S Jones <deafstones@yahoo.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Invitation only gets tougher A few years ago, Ed "Sidemeat" Ingram wanted to sponsor me for the AMM. Trouble was, I needed another sponsor and then the entry standards were also toughened. Have no trouble with MOST of the now 15 standards listed. I'm a lone wolf who prefers my own company in the same way that Thomas Jefferson did (remember his quote?) Anyways, I might show up in rendezvous finally to see if my company is acceptable and will gladly join if invited. Keep the sun on your back and your powder dry. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail û Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:52:45 EDT From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 In a message dated 7/11/00 1:45:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, karl@intercompco.com writes: > Like Paul Harvey am I must be "sunk in my own ignorance, bias, and religious > dogma" yep, now that the first fact with a ring of truth. please take this crap off this list; to its proper forum which ISN'T HERE. its causing people to drop off, not participate and is OFF TOPIC for the purposes of this particular list. get a grip. and a new list to spout off too. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:01:25 EDT From: JBSierra@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Karl: Wow. Engineers are not necessarily trained in science unless they have a science degree i.e. Ph.D. Evolution is not my religion, but creationism is obviously yours as to believe that one day God dropped man in place requires faith. Evolution is an evolving scientific position that get modified when new information arrives. I don't recall the bible being modified as new finding about biblical persons or events become available. Evolution is not a belief but a position based on available data. Science requires hypothesis, data collection, statistical analysis, and replication of results. Religion, with its hundreds, or maybe thousands, of interpretation of writtings, that are at least fifteen hundred years, old hardly builds confidence in one out of all these religious conclusion. I am a spiritual person. But organized religion builds walls between people, protesting that "our way" is the only way. I guess I am a transcendentalist, finding evidence for a higher power all around me in nature. Have faith, I respect that. But don't call creationism science. John - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:02:28 EDT From: JBSierra@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 I'm doing just that. Good idea. JBSierra - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:07:01 EDT From: JBSierra@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Karl: It has been suggested that we banter this discussion personally. I agree. JBSierra@aol.com JB - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:10:03 EDT From: JBSierra@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Mountain men survived in part by adapting the Indian world view that all animal share a common bond for survival. Let's hope Mountain men discussion never abandons all together the idea that wilderness is our temple. JBSierra - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:42:04 -0700 From: "John C. Funk, Jr." <J2Hearts@norcalis.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Gotta tell, ya folks. If this crap doesn't "quit" all of the efforts which have gone into making this a viable forum for "FUR TRADE HISTORY stuff will go down the tubes. IT WILL be lost, because (I think) most of us will bail out !!!! John Funk ! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:14:45 EDT From: Wind1838@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver Last year I ran across an account of a seasoned trapper instructing some trappers new to the mountains to "rum the beaver." I ran across this story in the Dictionary of American Biography while doing some research. For the life of me I can't remember who it was. I've gone back and looked up Fitzpatrick, Sublette, etc. and I can't find the story again. It seems this took place in the storehouse of a Fort and the "instructor" left the recruits with a roomful of plews and several kegs of rum. The recruits, being green, proceeded to drink the rum and were found feeling no pain when the trapper returned. "Next time," he instructed, "rum the beaver, don't drink the rum." Does this story sound vaguely familiar to any of you scholars on the list? It was a damn good one and I'd like to remember it more accurately. Laura Glise - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:31:08 -0700 From: "Michael W. Finnie" <mwf1@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver I've read the story too, Laura. I don't have the box unpacked to verify it right now, but I *think* it was in one of Ruxton's books. ymhs Mike At 09:14 PM 7/11/00 -0400, you wrote: >returned. "Next time," he instructed, "rum the beaver, don't drink the rum." > >Does this story sound vaguely familiar to any of you scholars on the list? >It was a damn good one and I'd like to remember it more accurately. > >Laura Glise - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:35:51 -0700 From: "Michael W. Finnie" <mwf1@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver part deux Steven Hall Meek's autobio is one source, and it was an occurance with Sublette http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/html/smeek.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:45:56 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rum the Beaver Sounds to me like one of Joe Meeks' Stories. Can't remember where I read it. If I remember right he was one of the green hands. Crazy Cyot - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jul 2000 19:17:58 -0700 From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: about the list On Tue, 11 July 2000, "Frank Fusco" wrote: > Sorry to have to say this, but the list seems to have evaporated into almost nothingness. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Frank, Probably has for some minds, right Dennis. There's nothing wrong with this "list", the only reason for a few {OFF TOPIC] items like of late is do to nothing going on, everyone is on vacation, camps, etc. It seems now that a few have returned and now the list will get back to the original format and time frame, with out a few of the [OFF TOPIC] items, it would make one think the damn thing was broke. Later. Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "One who trades" "Uno quien negocia" "Unquil Commerce" English Spanish French * Phila * St.Louis * Trade West * Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:43:36 -0400 From: "Dennis Miles" <deforge1@bright.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: about the list > Probably has for some minds, right Dennis. >>Have no idea what you are talking about, Buck... D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:49:48 -0400 From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Pistol Anyone out there have knowledge of late 18th century english (or other) naval pistols with bronze barrels? Tom - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC - Buck's Grand Uncle, Patriot movie www.imdb.org lists the 38 movies he was in and most of the characters he portrayed - also says he was born in San Sabag (San Saba) Texas on Nov.22, 1880. On another similar subject, the city council of Liverpool, England is demanding that Columbia Pictures apologize for villifying one of their native sons - Banastre Tarleton - in the movie Patriot. However, in an article written by Robert A. Selig in the Feb/Mar. 1997 issue of American Heritage magazine, he stated: "Near Portsmouth, Virginia, he [Tarleton] hanged a pregnant woman under a sign reading, 'You will not bear any more rebels.' " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:43:47 -0700 From: "Larry Huber" <shootsprairie@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Invitation only gets tougher Aside from being a forum for the historical fur trade and a school in survival, the American Mountain Men is a fraternal organization that seeks its company in like mided individuals. In other words, were supposed to be social. True lone wolves will find that part difficult. You need to be "on the ground" with a number of the members over a certain period of time. Once the boys get to know you, getting two sponsers shouldn't be a problem...unless it is. Larry Huber #1517 - ----- Original Message ----- From: S Jones <deafstones@yahoo.com> To: <hist_text@xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:06 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Invitation only gets tougher > A few years ago, Ed "Sidemeat" Ingram wanted to > sponsor me for the AMM. Trouble was, I needed another > sponsor and then the entry standards were also > toughened. Have no trouble with MOST of the now 15 > standards listed. I'm a lone wolf who prefers my own > company in the same way that Thomas Jefferson did > (remember his quote?) Anyways, I might show up in > rendezvous finally to see if my company is acceptable > and will gladly join if invited. Keep the sun on your > back and your powder dry. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:41:17 EDT From: Ssturtle1199@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #585 Came in tired from work to check list. Honestly, the list last week, even though it was slow still contained informative postings. If this is the results of rendezvous, I'm glad I missed them. These postings aren't worth the keys it took to write them. (Most of them) Till trails cross Turtle - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:27:01 EDT From: JBSierra@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: about the list Agree. JBSierra - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:17:05 -0500 From: jdsteach@dwave.net Subject: MtMan-List: Rust on the camp set.... I finally got to the basement and pulled out my iron camp set. I was unaware how wet it had gotten down there and was greeted with rust. I was told when I bought it that I could reheat it in a fire.....but then what? Seems to me that beeswax was mentioned but I'm not sure. I want to keep it looking as nice as possible. Any suggestions will be welcomed and you can bet it won't get to the basement again. Thanks a heap. jeffreyjack - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:48:26 -0700 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pistol tom there is a good book on english pistols---dont have mine handy but it is in the dixie catalog and also in mountain state---its name is the english pistol a pictoral guide by beebe & bingham on page 34 of their (mountain state) catalog---price is 8.50 the american flintlock pistol also has a couple of brass barrel guns---but not english but similar lines---I have a rifled underhammer boot pistol about 38 cal---original---a bit later in date--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C) 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815 E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:49:48 -0400 tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net> writes: > Anyone out there have knowledge of late 18th century > english (or other) naval pistols with bronze barrels? > > Tom > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! 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