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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:00:58 -0800
From: terry l landis <tllandis@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traditions flintlock
it sounds like your frizzen is ok. i would check the cock angle or the
curve of your frizzen.
also try shorter flints. i have a tvm flinter and they changed the fly
in the newer locks to accommodate a longer flint, but mine needs the
shorter one. so i knap them down and leave about an 1/8 in gap at half
cock. i have shot it a lot and i don't have to change flints very often.
hope this helps.
p/s: who said that size don't matter?
ymhs,
ephrim.
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:37:49 EST
From: Traphand@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Fur Price Help Needed
Hello list,
In need of help. Wife signed me up at my kid's school for
living
History day (Missouri). Need to know the prices for beaver and other furs
from 1800-1840 when sold at Western Rendezvous compared to prices
received in St. Louis. Would like prices to compare between both places.
Thank you.
rick
traphand@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 12:03:19 -0700
From: Allen Hall <allenhall@srv.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fur Price Help Needed
Rick,
Most mountain prices ranged from $3-5. Depended on the year and company.
Can't recall prices at St. Louis right off, but $7 is what rings in my head.
Hope this helps. Also, don't forget the transport charged from rendezvous
to St. Louis, that added up pretty substantially.
In A Majority of Scoudrels this is talked about, especially concerning Bill
Sublette in 1834.
Allen in Fort Hall country
At 12:37 PM 03/05/2000 EST, you wrote:
>Hello list,
> In need of help. Wife signed me up at my kid's school for
>living
>History day (Missouri). Need to know the prices for beaver and other furs
>from 1800-1840 when sold at Western Rendezvous compared to prices
>received in St. Louis. Would like prices to compare between both places.
>
>Thank you.
>
>rick
>traphand@aol.com
>
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Date: 5 Mar 2000 12:33:47 -0800
From: Buck Conner <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fur Price Help Needed
On Sun, 05 March 2000, Allen Hall wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Most mountain prices ranged from $3-5. Depended on the year and company.
> Can't recall prices at St. Louis right off, but $7 is what rings in my head.
>
> Hope this helps. Also, don't forget the transport charged from rendezvous
> to St. Louis, that added up pretty substantially.
>
> In A Majority of Scoudrels this is talked about, especially concerning Bill
> Sublette in 1834.
>
> Allen in Fort Hall country
>
>
>
> At 12:37 PM 03/05/2000 EST, you wrote:
> >Hello list,
> > In need of help. Wife signed me up at my kid's school for
> >living
> >History day (Missouri). Need to know the prices for beaver and other furs
> >from 1800-1840 when sold at Western Rendezvous compared to prices
> >received in St. Louis. Would like prices to compare between both places.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >rick
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AN EXAMPLE OF HOW LATE THE TRADE WAS STILL GOING ON
We always think of St.Louis as being the hub of the fur trade, but there were other locations that did quite well, for example St. Paul, Minnesota took its fair share of the business, listed below is a list seen in the St.Paul Advertiser, a local newspaper.
Animals No. Skins Value
Rats 64,292 $11,572.56
Minks 8,276 18,621.00
Martens 1,428 3,570.00
Fishers 1,045 4,702.50
Red Fox 876 1,095.00
Cross Fox 20 100.00
Silver Fox 8 400.00
Kit Fox 2,542 1,271.00
Coons 3,400 2,550.00
Wolverines 2,032 3,048.00
Otter 405 1,417.50
Beaver, lb.. 586 881.00
Bear 610 6,700.00
Lynx 50 125.00
Buffalo Robes 7,500 41,200.00
Total Value $ 95,750.56
Now would you believe this was a poor year according to the Advertiser in 1856, a large amount of these furs were traded for in merchandise, the fur trade as we know it, was over, but trade guns, blanket's, cookware and anything else was still moving across this country.
Think of the amount of furs gathered in the hay day of the fur trade 1820's to 1840's, look for example at Ft.Union, a prime location and the amount of money that John Jacob Astor made is unbelievable, even by today's standards.
Hope this helps, the original list was part of a report that my Grandfather had written for the Pennsylvania Game Commission (Legal Dept.)when an agent for them in 1938 this report was investing possible values on furs related to poaching. I gave this information; letters, reports, etc. to Charlie Hanson in the 1960's, he later wrote several articles using this information.
Later
Buck Conner
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:43:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Schrotter <mail4dog@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: eyeglasses
Thanks to those who replied to my question about
eyeglass prices, but I already have a pair of period
