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Date: 30 Dec 1999 10:03:59 -0800
From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Personal Safety & Security [OFF TOPIC]
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We received this information this morning, mostly common sense that we should all remember, and practice, so consider it a reminder to be alert this weekend or any weekend, as we should anytime we're out of our normal surroundings.
Thanks.
Buck
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Subject: Y2K Weekend - Personal Safety & Security
While this is a special weekend, it is really no different than any other large celebration that you or your family might participate in.
Based on that premise the following offers a few ideas to take forth with you on the Y2K weekend and any other special event or celebration you may attend.
Remember:
The first thing to remember is that your personal safety at work, at home, at a celebration, is first and foremost your responsibility. Even if you can't control the external environment around you, you can still take steps to avoid becoming a victim.
On the streets:
There will be certain locations in major metropolitan areas that will draw large crowds of people celebrating the New Year. These locations will not only attract people celebrating but also those who would take
advantage of large crowds to commit crimes against individuals and businesses. The crimes can range from picking a pocket to looting.
So, what can you do to avoid falling prey to these individuals?
Know what your community is doing about restricting on street parking near the event you plan to attend. If parking is restricted check with local parking lots to ensure they will be open to the public.
Park as near as you can to the event or building you are going to. Park in well lit areas if it is dark when you arrive or when you plan to return to your car. Avoid parking near large vehicles (Vans. Etc.),
or other objects which can limit your visibility. Before exiting the vehicle, know what is going on outside. Your doors should still be locked. Check your side view mirrors and do a 360 degree look around
the vehicle. Trust your instincts! If you are uncomfortable do not get out, leave and find another parking place.
Be aware of what you are leaving in your vehicle. Don't leave items of value in view, such as CD's, cassettes and packages you are planning to return afterChristmas. They are attractive to potential thieves and should be locked in the trunk.
Once you're out of the vehicle walk confidently at a steady pace with your head up. Be alert to activity in the area. Look at individuals near you. You do not have to look them in the eye, but be able to identify them. This can be a deterrent to some potential perpetrators. Distracted or tentative pedestrians spell victim.
Avoid using alleys and other more isolated routes to your destination. It may take a little longer to walk the main streets but crime is less likely to occur in these areas.
When returning to your vehicle have your keys in hand. Approach the car from an angle looking underneath and around it. Before opening the door check the floor in the front and rear seat areas. Once in the car, lock the door before putting on your seat belt. Stick to main streets avoiding less traveled routes to and from home. Plan on possible delays due to impromptu street parties or unplanned street closures. Check the radio for local information prior to leaving home and frequently while traveling to your destination. If possible, have your cellular telephone with you. Plan alternate routes to your destination just in case you need them.
If you determine you are being followed, don't drive home. There will more police officers on duty than usual. Look for an officer directing traffic or a patrol car, then flash your lights at them. If you cannot locate one go to the nearest police or fire station and honk your horn. If that is not possible, drive to an open gas station or other business where you can safely call the police. Don't leave your car unless you
know you can get inside the building safely. Try to get the license number and description of the car following you. Again, if possible, have a cellular phone in your car to use in emergency situations.
If possible, use an alternate source of transportation such as a bus or taxicab. Plan on early arrival and late departure.
Check out what the hours of operation will be for businesses such as restaurants and other establishments near the event. If crowd control becomes a problem you may want to seek out one of these locations to wait it out.
Additionally, when you are in large crowds like the ones you may encounter on New Years Eve, consider the following:
It is best to have a minimum amount of valuables on your person in a large crowd. Place your cash in a front pocket. Women should avoid carrying a purse that does not have a strap to hold onto. If possible,
they should not carry a purse. Don't flash large amounts of money in public places. Don't wear necklaces and chains that can be yanked off you.
Be alert to a changing atmosphere in the crowd.
A large group of people in a confined space can turn from a celebrating group to an angry bunch of people, to a mob in a relatively short period of time. This can happen for a number of reasons; Law Enforcement may
have imposed some unwanted restriction; panic; a fight between individuals
or gang members; or actions by someone with an agenda to create an opportunity for easy theft. Whatever the reason, you should position yourself for a quick exit from the area.
Avoid locations in the path of the crowd. People may panic and you could be trampled or mistaken for a troublemaker by police.
Avoid locations near locked doorways or building walls that a swelling crowd could trap you against.
Where should you be when faced with a crowd?
Locate yourself near intersections or exits that allow you the opportunity to back away quickly and easily. This is not the time
to be in the middle of a large crowd.
Comply with instructions given by Law Enforcement Officers conducting crowd control. Some people think because they are not doing anything wrong they don't have to move when police officers direct them to do
so. This is a big mistake. Officers will not have time to determine who is an observer and who is not. (FOLLOW THE LAWFUL DIRECTIONS GIVEN TO YOU BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS SITUATION).
Arrange for a meeting place in the event that you are separated from your party.
At home:
Many municipal governments are recommending people prepare for the Y2K weekend like they would for a winter storm. Have extra milk, water, food and any necessary medication on hand. Additionally have a little extra cash and fill your automobiles up with gasoline.
As always, make sure all the entrances and windows to your home can be locked securely, especially sliding glass doors. Then use the locks. Never leave your house unlocked. Be sure all the doors you cannot see are locked. Make sure your garage door is closed.
If possible, find a reputable alarm service and have the appropriate security and exterior lighting system installed at your residence. Install peepholes in your doors that provide 180-degree visibility, including the door to your garage. Ensure shrubs and trees do not block views of your windows and doors from the street.
Do not let strangers in your home, especially if you're alone, even if they claim there is a dire emergency. Instead, offer to make an
emergency call for them while they wait outside. Avoid giving the impression you are home alone if strangers telephone or come to
the door. If you do live alone, it's a good idea to use only your last name and initials on mailboxes and in telephone directories.
If you return home and find obvious evidence of forced entry or if a door/window is open that shouldn't be, do not go inside. Go to the nearest phone and call the police.
In some geographic areas individuals will fire weapons in the air during the New Year celebration. What they apparently don't realize is that what goes up must come down. Not only is it against the law, but damage or injury can occur, so don't fire a weapon in the air and avoid being around people who do.
In the motel or hotel:
Thieves count on people celebrating to be less attentive to security. Be careful.
Don't leave your luggage unattended. Check your baggage with the staff if you can't go to your room immediately.
Keep your extra valuables locked in the hotel safe and inventory your belongings kept in the room every day. Use all available auxiliary- locking devices when occupying or leaving your room.
Know who is knocking before you open the door. Report any suspicious activity in the corridors or rooms to management. If someone is loitering in the hall near your room, do not enter your room. Instead, go directly to the front desk and report it. Never enter the room if the door is ajar and do not sit in your room with the door propped open.
Don't leave the door open for any length of time, even if you're just going to the ice machine.
NOTE: While nothing is 100% guaranteed, if you follow the above points the odds of you becoming a victim to crime will be greatly reduced.
When necessary call the police and if it is an emergency dial 911, and remember to report all security concerns related to work to COMPANY Security at ...........
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Better to be safe, than sorry.
Later,
Buck Conner
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:45:58 -0800
From: R Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: infiltrated...
David Woodbury wrote:
>
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> "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
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>
> Capt. Lahti,
>
> That was an outstanding post. Thanks for taking the time to
> articulate your thoughts. I can appreciate the argument that an
> erosion of any right can rarely be reversed, and, the precedent
> established, almost certainly ensures more erosion in the future. My
> problem is that I don't believe the absolute right existed in the
> first place. I'll address a few points:
Dave,
Alas, you find me out. I am not perfect in my understanding of the fine
points of the issue nor am I perfect in my thoughts on how it should be
applied, as you point out. The issue is complicated, granted. I would
wish to be consistent in saying that the Constitution is inviolate in
it's entirety but as humans there is always some part that works against
our inclinations or seems not to go far enough in protecting what we
hold dear.
This person wants to own any firearm without restriction, I want a
mechanism in place that will assure me that he/she is not a criminal or
mentally unstable. That person wants to say anything they wish. I say
draw the line at public obscenities (I'll be the judge of what is
obscene). That person wishes to be secure in his home from search and
seizure. I wish to root out the drug labs. I want my kids to pray
whenever they feel like it. You say no prayer in schools. (or visa versa
of course <G>)
No it is not easy determining what was meant or how to apply it in this
day and age but surely the bottom line is "freedoms, liberties and
protections lost are not soon recovered".
But since there was no organized Militia when the document was written
other than every able bodied citizen, it is reasonable for us to feel
that the words mean what they say and we are to consider it our right as
good citizens to keep and bare arms without further infringement from
the government until such time as we prove by our acts to be unworthy of
that trust.
As to there being an absolute right to "keep and bare arms" existing in
the first place, I believe that right is rooted deep within common law
going way back in English Common Law which most scholars will admit is
the basis for our laws. Any legislation that erodes that basic right is
an infringement and in some cases may even be an example of
confiscation. Because a state like Calif. has rewritten or rescinded a
liberal law with one more restrictive does not make it good law in the
eyes of the Constitution. Because the courts have upheld it, does not
make it right. As modern citizens we choose to fight such usurpation in
the Halls of Congress and in the Courts rather than the field of battle
as was done in past ages but it is a constant fight to save basic
liberties and rights. We all hold that all men are created equal, etc.
but it took an amendment to take the equivocation out of how that basic
human right was being abridged. Even with that amendment, are all men
still treated equal?
The Left attacks the 2nd Amendment to save us from ourselves and solve
social ill's and evils. The Right attacks the 1st Amendment to save us
from ourselves and make us pure of heart. It's human nature at it's ugly
best. A difficult position we find ourselves in, no? Thank you for
keeping me honest about my contradictions, may we both grow in wisdom. I
remain...
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
> And yet, (in a quote above) you agree that something *less than all*
> is "not that unreasonable."
>
> David
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:46:37 -0800
From: randybublitz@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: infiltrated...
I have a quick comment.... Why hasn't the US mainland been attacked in
times of War? Because it's Citizen's are able and willing to defend it,
and everyone knows it. hardtack
Your Second Amendment Rights protect ALL of your other Rights, Don't give
up your Rights
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:57:25 -0700
From: "Ron Chamberlain" <cstmzd@ida.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
actually he froze to death!
>>
>Well, it's like I've always said, "build a man a fire and you warm
>him for a day, set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life."
