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hist_text-digest     Wednesday, November 24 1999     Volume 01 : Number 413



In this issue:

-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: tipi poles
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Trappers
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Trappers
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Trappers
-áááááá MtMan-List: Humurous story

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:56:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents

There are a couple of books of canvas craft "the Marlinspike sailor" is one
that go into hand sewing canvas
Good Luck

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:41:41 -0500
From: Anne MacDonnald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents

Try this website.  While the owner is in the SCA, she has many very good
things on this site.    The links are really good as well.
It does not matter what period you are doing, the method of sewing a
tent/pavilion is the same.
http://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/tent.html

I can tell you from experience...call Panther.  It will be cheaper in the
long run and your spouse will thank you for it. [grins]

But if you choose to ignore sage advice.... [vbg]
1. buy an industrial sewing machine.  It will take the flat felled seams
that you need to make.
2.  Behr's waterseal is made for fabric [thompson's is not].  do not paint
it on... but roll up the tent and then the fabric wick up the stuff.  I
used 5 gallons for a 16x16 pavilion.  Later paint the seams both sides,
again.
2. Check out your local awning maker.  They can get you the stuff a lot
cheaper than a fabric store.    They may also have access to sunforger.
3. when you have finally figured out what a pain in the behind it is to
sew... been there, and almost killed him... call panther order the wall
tent in a 10 ounce, sunforger, fire retardent and enjoy.
Anne


Lee Newbill wrote:

> Hallo the camp.
>
> I'm tinkering with the idea of making my own wall tent.  Any books out
> there that might help?
>
> Anybody tried this?
>
> Regards
>
> Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
> Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders
> [e-mail] : http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:18:15 -0600
From: Jim Lindberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tipi poles

spruce and tamarak (or larch) could make good poles.

Jim

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:23:52 -0700
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Trappers

I have to agree with Hardtack, Joe was the first to come to mind. You don't
hear or read as much about him as the more 'famous' trappers, but he did
SHINE right up there with the best. I believe he was the person that tried
to dissuade the Donner party from leaving Ft Bridger. Tried to convince them
that they had not enough time to cross the Sierras before snowfall. We all
know the rest. If anyone hasn't read "Westering Man, the Story of Joseph
Reddeford Walker" by Bil Gilbert, I highly recommend it.

Lou Sickler
Colorado Territory

P.S. I know we were supposed to send these to Laura off-list, just couldn't
help myself. What a damned incorrigible bunch we are!

> -----Original Message-----
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> Hi Laura,   My vote goes for Joseph Walker.   He was an explorer
> extrordinaire, a leader of men, and active in the West for a long time.
> I'm impressed with his long career on the frontier and his ability to
> succeed in nearly endeavor he undertook.  You should check me on this,
> but I believe I read somewhere that no man was ever killed while under
> the leadership of Joseph Walker.       Hardtack
>
> Your Second Amendment Rights protect ALL of your other Rights, Don't give
> up your Rights
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:12:00 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers

Good luck on your project.
I just finished writing a book on Robert Campbell-- a friend of the major
mountain men and trader-trapper himself.  So...  here's my suggestions:

Jed Smith
Jim Bridger  (Old Gabe)
William Sublette
Robert Campbell
Louis Vasaquez
The Bents
Thomas Fitzpatrick (Iron Hand)
Jim Beckwourth
Joe Walker
Liver-Eating Smith  (Crow Killer)

Hope these help.  LeRoy Hafen's books are great for an overview.

Dr. Stephen F. Huss  ([e-mail])

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Date: 22 Nov 99 21:51:42 -0700
From: Phyllis and Don Keas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers

         Reply to:   Re: MtMan-List: Trappers
John Colter

DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants

randybublitz wrote:
>Hi Laura,   My vote goes for Joseph Walker.   He was an explorer
>extrordinaire, a leader of men, and active in the West for a long time.  =
>I'm impressed with his long career on the frontier and his ability to
>succeed in nearly endeavor he undertook.  You should check me on this,
>but I believe I read somewhere that no man was ever killed while under
>the leadership of Joseph Walker.       Hardtack
>
>Your Second Amendment Rights protect ALL of your other Rights, Don't give
>up your Rights
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:05:15 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Humurous story

Hi all I just did this and figured that I would share it with you so you old
timers can have a good laugh and all the newbies wont make the same mistake.
Today I went and decided that I would try to make a flint and steel fire
starting kit.  I went and got me a old file and started heating it with a
torch so that I could bend it into shape.  Well, my first mistake was that I
got it to were I wanted it and cooled it in some water.  I was then going to
give it a good oil bath to temper it when I dropped it on the floor.  All
those articles are right when they talk about tempering that file shattered
just like glass.  So I got another piece of steel and got it shaped like I
wanted it and heated it up and then put it in the water.  This time I made
sure to keep a really good hold on it.  Well, I went to set up my oil bath
and had a quart of oil that was half full so I just cut the top off of it and
proceeded to heat up the metal.  All the while I was thinking how smart I was
for my miniature oil bath.  Well, the metal got to were it needed to be so I
dropped it into the oil bath.  Well, about the time that it hit the oil I had
a revaluation.  When you drop really really hot metal into a plastic
container THEY MELT.  Well, I ran to grab my drip pan but it was to late I
had a shop full of smoke from the burning plastic and a floor covered in oil.
 Well, I hope this brings a smile to at least some of you.

[e-mail] (Hawk)

If you learn from your mistakes I should be smarter than Einstein.

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