Shrine of Texas Liberty</A> <A HREF="http://www.flash.net/~alamo3/">Alamo de
Parras, The Story of the Alamo's Early History</A> Barn
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:31:53 -0500
From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wahintke
Book of Buckskinning, Volume III, page 93 offers advice on constructing a
wahintke. I made one last year with ease. Moscow Hide & Fur supplied the elk
antler and lawnmower blade supplied the steel. Rawhide wrap secured them
together. Very simple and very effective tool.
Tom
Kevin Pitman wrote:
>
> Can anyone guide me to a location (site) for detailed instructions on making
> a wahinke (sp?)
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:44:02 -0600
From: Farseer <farseer@swbell.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: AMM & New Outdoor Life Channel (far out thoughts)
Iron Belly know history list like his own children. Maybe he help you.
>
> History list gone. Beaver gone too.
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:02:59 -0500 (EST)
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI)
Subject: MtMan-List: Reply to AMM & New Outdoor Life Channel
Capt'n, Barn:
epiphany came from watching a 30 minute skeet & trap competition on a
brand new cable channel (the Outdoor Life Network called OLN) and
thought what about the few - the forgotten - the historical reenactors
with their period accurate muzzleloaders? when was the last time any of
us remembers a muzzleloading shoot (not modern inline but replica
antique) broadcast? - 1970's? with the old off-the-air The American
Sportsman?
yep, i guess it was a brain belch or maybe one of the memory cells (from
some good old days) sparking that contains the data from when my 1763
Charleville sparked, flashed and belched the round ball thru rod of iron
and into the target bullseye at 50 yards on the first shot of the day.
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:35:20 +0000
From: R Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Reply to AMM & New Outdoor Life Channel
JON MARINETTI wrote:
> when was the last time any of
> us remembers a muzzleloading shoot (not modern inline but replica
> antique) broadcast? - 1970's? with the old off-the-air The American
> Sportsman?
Jon,
So now that we know what caused it, where do you want to go with this?
>
> yep, i guess it was a brain belch or maybe one of the memory cells (from
> some good old days) sparking that contains the data from when my 1763
> Charleville sparked, flashed and belched the round ball thru rod of iron
> and into the target bullseye at 50 yards on the first shot of the day.
Love my Charlevill too. Real prize winner, she is. I remain...
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: 12 Nov 1999 06:11:34 -0800
From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Reply to AMM & New Outdoor Life Channel
On Thu, 11 November 1999, JON MARINETTI wrote:
(the Outdoor Life Network called OLN) and thought what about the few - the forgotten - the historical reenactors with their period accurate muzzleloaders? when was the last time any of us remembers a muzzleloading shoot (not modern inline but replica antique) broadcast? - 1970's? with the old off-the-air The American Sportsman?
>
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Jon,
That was the American Sportsman Shoot in 1978, held in Jackson Hole WY, at the time of John Wayne's death. The shooters where the back-ground actors from the movie being made at that time - titled "Wind River" later changed to "The Mountain Men". American Sportsman gave two thousand dollars for prize money for the (6) different shooting events. Hi-light of the event was Chuch Heston (now NRA Pres.) missing his target and having to eat it, a raw egg.
It was only a year or so later that the American Sportsman show was cancelled.
I saw a blackpowder shotgun match on one of the cable shows with Robert Stack, Bob Conrad and several others like Jed Brown - shooting prec. doubles - Stack made everyone look sick. Of course he should being a 50's gold metal winner in shotgun and also shot in the 80's in blackpowder rifle comp. in Japan. That was in the early 1980's of anything shown nationally, have seen local blackpowder matches here in the Rockies in the last few years. Just my two cents worth.
Later,
Buck Conner
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:18:42 PST
From: "Kevin Pitman" <kpmtnman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wahintke
Thanks for the info. I don't have vol. iii yet, so I geuss that's next on
the list. SInce the topics have turned to movies of late, I have another
question. In "Jeremiah Johnson", when he is with Lapp in the snow (after the
griz incident) all you hear is music and they are looking at a couple of
trees with posts sunk in the ground. Is that supposed to be a fleshing pole
setup or am I missing something? Just curious.
YMOS, Kevin
>From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wahintke
>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:31:53 -0500
>
>Book of Buckskinning, Volume III, page 93 offers advice on constructing a
>wahintke. I made one last year with ease. Moscow Hide & Fur supplied the
>elk
>antler and lawnmower blade supplied the steel. Rawhide wrap secured them
>together. Very simple and very effective tool.
>
>Tom
>
>
>Kevin Pitman wrote:
>
> >
> > Can anyone guide me to a location (site) for detailed instructions on
>making
> > a wahinke (sp?)
>
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:50:59 -0700
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <louis.l.sickler@lmco.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Yankee Doodle
Ho the List,
I found this on a site called 'Primary Source Documents'
(www.ukans.edu/carrie/docs/texts/yankee.htm). There was some discussion
previously about this song that turned into a discussion about pasta. No
"macaroni' here..........
YANKEE DOODLE
Father and I went down to camp,
Along with Captain Gooding;
And there we saw the men and boys,
As thick as hasty pudding.
Yankee doodle, keep it up,
Yankee doodle dandy;
Mind the music and the step,
And with the girls be handy.
There was Captain Washington
Upon a slapping stallion,
A-giving orders to his men,
I guess there was a million.
And then the feathers on his hat,
They looked so' tarnal fin-a,
I wanted pockily to get
To give to my Jemima.
And then we saw a swamping gun,
Large as a log of maple;
Upon a deuced little cart,
A load for father's cattle.
And every time they shoot it off,
It takes a horn of powder;
It makes a noise like father's gun,
Only a nation louder.
I went as nigh to one myself,
As' Siah's underpinning;
And father went as nigh agin,
I thought the deuce was in him.
We saw a little barrel, too,
The heads were made of leather;
They knocked upon it with little clubs,
And called the folks together.
And there they'd fife away like fun,
And play on cornstalk fiddles,
And some had ribbons red as blood,
All bound around their middles.
The troopers, too, would gallop up
And fire right in our faces;
It scared me almost to death
To see them run such races.
Uncle Sam came there to change
Some pancakes and some onions,
For' lasses cake to carry home
To give his wife and young ones.
But I can't tell half I see
They kept up such a smother;
So I took my hat off, made a bow,
And scampered home to mother.
Cousin Simon grew so bold,
I thought he would have cocked it;
It scared me so I streaked it off,
And hung by father's pocket.
And there I saw a pumpkin shell,
As big as mother's basin;
And every time they touched it off,
They scampered like the nation.
Yankee doodle, keep it up,
Yankee doodle dandy;
Mind the music and the step,
And with the girls be handy
Sorry, there was no further documentation for the time frame of this
version, nor any other source info. Appears to be a much more 'period' piece
than other, more familiar versions, though.
Lou Sickler
Colorado Territory
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Date: 12 Nov 1999 14:09:52 -0800
From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Shooting on camera
On Fri, 12 November 1999, Ronald Schrotter wrote:
>
> Hey, I ate breakfast with Chuck that day in Jackson
> Hole. A lot of fine AMM brothers{and sisters} were
> there. I didn't realize it was that long ago. Thanks
> for the reminder. DOG
>
Dog,
Do you remember how Chuck acted when I told him he had to eat that raw egg; pretty good sport about it. When he walked to the target frame he put his hand to his mouth like he was going to clear his throat. What he did was put a round ball in his mouth. When he ate the raw egg he claimed to the camera that I had cheated and gave him a hard egg - holding the ball up with egg dripping off it for everyone to see. Everyone got a kick out of him, fun experience for most of us, even with somethings wrong.
Later,
Buck Conner
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:31:53 EST
From: GHickman@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wahintke
troberts@gdi.net writes:
<< Book of Buckskinning, Volume III, page 93 offers advice on constructing a
wahintke. >>
I couldn't find the wahnitke at the reference you gave. Could you check it?
Thanks.
Ghosting Wolf
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:52:34 -0500
From: tom roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wahintke
I'm looking at it right now. The article, titled "Making a Hide Scraper",
begins on page 93 of Volume III.
The illustration is Figure 5.
Tom
GHickman@aol.com wrote:
> troberts@gdi.net writes:
>
> << Book of Buckskinning, Volume III, page 93 offers advice on constructing a
> wahintke. >>
> I couldn't find the wahnitke at the reference you gave. Could you check it?
> Thanks.
>
> Ghosting Wolf
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