My apologies again for being incompetent with the off list e-mails.
My mother is the only person I e-mailed until I got on the list!
I'll clean up after myself here with some of the thoughts that
I wrote to Buck. But first, let me say that my offer to drop my consult
hourly fee is only for those on the list and the AMM. The offer
for heavy metal screening is on for all those outside the list/AMM--
they would need to pay the regular consulting fee.
Buck had asked me several times about safety and heavy metal
prevention measures. My research into the mercury industry
resulted in learning of the appalling lack of safety protocols put
out by the mercury supply industry. I suggested a research project to Buck
and Mike Rockwhere data from as many sources as could be located
by those interested in the project, which then could be culled through
and analyzed and then come up with a "Safety and Prevention "
guideline for those who are involved in the areas of muzzleloading
that use lead. I offered to spearhead the project since I do research
projects all the time. I had planned to put this idea out on the list
AFTER we all had gotten going on the testing. I blew that,
but now that the idea for the project is out, I'm interested in hearing what
you guys think about it. It would be a long term project, but very
worthwhile
in preventing heavy metal toxic poisoning.
The other issue here is after everybody got through with the testing and
all,
I wanted to set someone up who had a AMM/muzzleloading related business
with supplements to sell designed to detox the body of metals and toxins
and to support the health of the liver. This is on the PREVENTIVE side of
things.
That way you all wouldn't have to go "outside" to get the nutrients you need
for an ongoing metal detoxification program, beins' you all are going to be
continually exposed. Any one interested in carrying these products contact
me off list at vapate@juno.com. If not, I can make arrangements with a
particular
company that carries the products that will help your bodies stay in a
continual
metal detoxification cycle. I talked to the company this morning and they
said
I could give out their phone number and would supply a pin number for
ordering
only these products. No one at the company would try to sell you anything
else.
A side note: The metal detox product also cleans out the arteries.
That's it for now. Next--Health Issue #1- Lead Data Sheet #1.
Have it all typed up--just have to figure out how to cut and paste!
Victoria
------------------------------
Date: 4 Oct 1999 12:48:02 -0700
From: turtle@uswestmail.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Health ISSUES W/Metals.
> * I talked to Victoria yestersday on the phone, she asked who would be good for backup reference and any additional thoughts on this subject. I suggested John Kramer and Mike Rock - members of this list with lots of personal experience on the subject..........
**
Have to agree, both are very good at research and very detailed, but let's not forget others on this list with valuable information.
**
> _____________________________
>
> I've been continuing to work out the details for the testing. I'm getting a little excited about it all.
> What I want to do is to start doing the testing, and then
> work on setting Buck's Apothecary up to stock specific nutrients that will support the guys as they expose themsleves to all manner of toxins!!!! Then I can just be in the background to be called on as needed.
> _____________________________
> I don't think it would be real period from looking at it that way, maybe better for a shooting supplier like Log Cabin Shop, etc. to handle a few health aids, seeing how they are the ones that are causing the problem in a round about way...............
> _____________________________
**
Have to agree with you again, know how busy you are, and your idea of a supplier of shooting supplies, cast balls, molds, etc. would be the likely place to handle such items, would think they would jump at it to show their concern.
**
>
> You could put the bulletins in your catalogue as
> references for the supplements. How does that sound?
>
**
E-mail will work for now when getting started, the supplier would have to consider UPDATE BULLETINS.
**
____________________________
>
> For those that have started a file "Health Issues", put this one in there as a [ISSUE 0], this gives you everything we have talked about to date. From now on we should be receiving updates in the form of :
>
> [OT Health Issue#1-Lead Data Sheet#1]
>
> [OT Health Issue#2-Hair Analysis]
>
**
This is a good plan, have made my file as suggested, thanks folks.
**
Take care - we leave as friends,
Lee "Turtle" Boyer
Historical Advisor - Parks & Rec.
State College, Pennsylvania
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:19:07 -0500
From: "Texan" <texan@cowtown.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: [OT Health Issue#1-Lead Data Sheet#1]
Lead-Data Sheet #1
This data was complied by James Balch, M.D. He is a graduate of Indiana
UniversityÆs
School of Medicine. He is presently a member of the American Medical
Association, is board certified in the American Board of Urology, and is a
fellow in the American College of Surgeons.
Please remember as you read about the exposures to lead that these sources
constitute a BASELINE exposure before you--to quote Barney Pfife, ôran many
a lead ball, shot at indoor ranges for years, manufactered ammo, eaten out
of untinned vessels,
drunk alchohol from pewter flasks, had hot coffee in pure copper mugs,
or..........
ingested lead by injection!ö We are exposed to the same degree as lead to
other heavy metals and many, many petrochemicals--AND we also store them
in our tissues just like we do lead.
Lead is one of the most toxic metal contaminants known. It is a cumulative
poison that is retained in the tissues by the body. Even with low level
exposure,
lead is absorbed directly from the blood where it is stored in the tissues.
When
lead leaves the bloodstream, it is stored, along with other minerals, in the
bones,
where it continues to build up over a lifetime. Lead from the bones may
reenter
the bloodstream at any time as a result of severe biologic stress.
Unlike some metallic elements, lead has no known functions or health
benefits for humans.
It is considered a metabolic poison, which means that it inhibits some basic
enzyme functions. Lead reacts with selenium and sulfur-containing
ANTIOXIDANT ENZYMES in the cells, seriously DIMINISHING the ability of the
substances to protect against FREE RADICAL DAMAGE [emphasis added-VP]. When
present in toxic amounts, it can damage the kidneys, liver, heart, and
nervous system.
Lead is one of the most widely used metals in the U.S. today, and it is
estimated THAT A
LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF LEAD IN THEIR BODIES [emphasis
added]. Sources of lead exposure include lead-based paints, ceramic glazes,
lead crystal dishes and glassware, leaded gasoline, lead-acid batteries used
in automobiles, tobacco, liver, water, some domestic and imported wines,
canned fruit (the lead from lead
soldered cans leaches out and is absorbed by fruits), garden vegetables (if
grown in lead-contaminated soil), bone meal and insecticides. Recently,
such innocuous-seeming items as vinyl mini-blinds and porcelain-glazed sinks
and bathtubs have been implicated in lead exposure.
Lead poisoning first gained widespread public attention when large numbers
of children,
especially children in inner cities, were found to have been poisoned by
chips of lead-based paint that had peeled off the walls. Some children
acquired high lead levels from playing in lead-contaminated dirt, which
would get on their hands and then into their mouths. Since then, it has
been learned that pregnant women who have high levels of lead in the bodies
can give birth to babies with high lead levels. .....Even low-level exposure
in
young children may be associated with impaired intellectual development and
behavioral
problems. According to the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC), 16 percent of all American children have blood lead levels that
exceed the acceptable norm.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:05:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: "Ballistics" And Gravity Off-Topic ???
An ex-student stopped me on the way home on my bus
route today.
He wanted a source, to prove the point that a canon
ball shot from a canon (level to the ground) on a
rooftop, and one dropped ,at the same instant it left
the muzzle would both hit the ground at the same time.
I have not found any old text around that I can show
him.
Send any info, off list ( or to list if it may open a
new can of worms)
Thanks George
=====
George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com >
Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline.
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:32:04 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
, and no reply???
- --
Penny Pincher
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:49:21 -0000
From: "Glenn Darilek" <llsi@texas.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
In the "open a can of worms" category, way back in 1996 on these
pages we discussed whether the word "trek" was appropriate for
the mountaineers. Based partly on my reference to
Webster's dictionary (see below), we concluded that 'trek' was not
appropriate.
Another found that Ruxton used the word 'jaunt', so we started using that
word.
I just checked Dean Rudy's searchable on-line library.
In it Wyeth used the word 'trek' once in his description of his first (1832)
expedition.
Also, Hunt used it three times in his lost diary of 1811!
So maybe Webster is not up to date.
Wyeth also used 'jaunt' once in his second expedition (1834)
Ferris used 'jaunt' in his book about his travels (1830 - 1835)
So I conclude that 'trek' is at least as appropriate as 'jaunt'.
Glenn Darilek
Iron Burner
(part of original post follows)
"Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary lists the first
written usage of the word 'trek' as a verb (to travel by ox wagon) in 1821
and as a noun (a journey by ox wagon) in 1835. Because of its Afrikaans
origin, most would doubt that the word was in use in the West.
The word 'jaunt' is documented as being in written usage as a verb (to
trudge about) in 1575 and as a noun (a tiring trip) in 1801.
I agree with Mr.. Barkin that 'trek' is improper and inappropriate. I like
his
'jaunt' better. I associate the word 'trek' with space science fiction,
which I have never liked. Evidently he has found that the word 'jaunt' was
used by Lt. Ruxton.
I seem to remember that Ruxton's hunts in the West were after 1840. I have
no references at hand to check this, but maybe Mr. Barkin found an earlier
reference. If this is not so, maybe we better not be too quick to adopt a
word that is not 100 percent defensible.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:30:24 -0700
From: Vic Barkin <Victor.Barkin@NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
No Bruce,
I'm still here. In and out alot and not very active with the list, but
reading with interest as always, If I did miss your posts, could you
resend? I tend to go through things pretty quickly sometimes and may have
inadvertantly deleted yours. If so I apologize. Check my address to see if
it's up to date. My domain name changed a little while back.
Vic
victor.barkin@nau.edu
>Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
>, and no reply???
>
>--
>
>
>Penny Pincher
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:51:23 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
You had been quiet so I thought the worst. I put up a Winter Nationals
Board, and Muzzle loading Type M/B Check it out. also a Trade Blanket.
See Ya @ WNS???
>
>No Bruce,
>
>I'm still here. In and out alot and not very active with the list, but
>reading with interest as always, If I did miss your posts, could you
>resend? I tend to go through things pretty quickly sometimes and may have
>inadvertantly deleted yours. If so I apologize. Check my address to see if
>it's up to date. My domain name changed a little while back.
>
>Vic
>
>victor.barkin@nau.edu
>
>>Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
>>, and no reply???
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>Penny Pincher
>
>
>
>
- --
Penny Pincher
Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:24:25 -0700
From: Vic Barkin <Victor.Barkin@NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
Of course! Haven't nailed down the schedule yet, but the Powderhorn Clan
will be helping out in some fashion again, I'm sure.
Vic
PS. for the record, I stand corrected on Trek, but still prefer Jaunt!
Vic
>You had been quiet so I thought the worst. I put up a Winter Nationals
>Board, and Muzzle loading Type M/B Check it out. also a Trade Blanket.
>
>See Ya @ WNS???
>
>
>>
>>No Bruce,
>>
>>I'm still here. In and out alot and not very active with the list, but
>>reading with interest as always, If I did miss your posts, could you
>>resend? I tend to go through things pretty quickly sometimes and may have
>>inadvertantly deleted yours. If so I apologize. Check my address to see if
>>it's up to date. My domain name changed a little while back.
>>
>>Vic
>>
>>victor.barkin@nau.edu
>>
>>>Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
>>>, and no reply???
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>
>>>Penny Pincher
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Penny Pincher
>Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
>Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
>http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:40:35 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
U were an NMLRA Field Rep. Why did you drop that job?? We are working our
Rumps off to get more folks to WNS this year. You check out my M/B??
>
>Of course! Haven't nailed down the schedule yet, but the Powderhorn Clan
>will be helping out in some fashion again, I'm sure.
>
>Vic
>
>PS. for the record, I stand corrected on Trek, but still prefer Jaunt!
>
>Vic
>
>>You had been quiet so I thought the worst. I put up a Winter Nationals
>>Board, and Muzzle loading Type M/B Check it out. also a Trade Blanket.
>>
>>See Ya @ WNS???
>>
>>
>>>
>>>No Bruce,
>>>
>>>I'm still here. In and out alot and not very active with the list, but
>>>reading with interest as always, If I did miss your posts, could you
>>>resend? I tend to go through things pretty quickly sometimes and may have
>>>inadvertantly deleted yours. If so I apologize. Check my address to see if
>>>it's up to date. My domain name changed a little while back.
>>>
>>>Vic
>>>
>>>victor.barkin@nau.edu
>>>
>>>>Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
>>>>, and no reply???
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Penny Pincher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Penny Pincher
>>Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
>>Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
>>http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
>
>
>
>
- --
Penny Pincher
Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:41:52 -0700
From: Vic Barkin <Victor.Barkin@NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
To tell the truth, I got sick of the politics and getting verbally attacked
for things I had no control over. I do this for fun, not to field
everybody's gripes. I'm much happier dealing with things on a local level,
putting on rendezvous, shoots, going on Jaunts, rides and the like. I 've
always felt my time is much better spent doing things I enjoy. Call me
selfish, but I deal with enough politics at work. I will check your page
soon, haven't yet. I'll let you know.
Vic
>U were an NMLRA Field Rep. Why did you drop that job?? We are working our
>Rumps off to get more folks to WNS this year. You check out my M/B??
>
>
>>
>>Of course! Haven't nailed down the schedule yet, but the Powderhorn Clan
>>will be helping out in some fashion again, I'm sure.
>>
>>Vic
>>
>>PS. for the record, I stand corrected on Trek, but still prefer Jaunt!
>>
>>Vic
>>
>>>You had been quiet so I thought the worst. I put up a Winter Nationals
>>>Board, and Muzzle loading Type M/B Check it out. also a Trade Blanket.
>>>
>>>See Ya @ WNS???
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>No Bruce,
>>>>
>>>>I'm still here. In and out alot and not very active with the list, but
>>>>reading with interest as always, If I did miss your posts, could you
>>>>resend? I tend to go through things pretty quickly sometimes and may have
>>>>inadvertantly deleted yours. If so I apologize. Check my address to see if
>>>>it's up to date. My domain name changed a little while back.
>>>>
>>>>Vic
>>>>
>>>>victor.barkin@nau.edu
>>>>
>>>>>Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
>>>>>, and no reply???
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Penny Pincher
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Penny Pincher
>>>Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
>>>Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
>>>http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Penny Pincher
>Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
>Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
>http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:59:50 -0700
From: Pat Quilter <pat_quilter@qscaudio.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
I remember this discussion, but have never really taken to "jaunt" despite
the arguments in its favor. Many people I know refer to going on an
"outing", which has nice "outdoor" implications as well as a certain period
flavor, but I have no documentation for it.
Pat Quilter
- -----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Darilek [mailto:llsi@texas.net]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 11:49 PM
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
In the "open a can of worms" category, way back in 1996 on these
pages we discussed whether the word "trek" was appropriate for
the mountaineers. Based partly on my reference to
Webster's dictionary (see below), we concluded that 'trek' was not
appropriate.
Another found that Ruxton used the word 'jaunt', so we started using that
word.
I just checked Dean Rudy's searchable on-line library.
In it Wyeth used the word 'trek' once in his description of his first (1832)
expedition.
Also, Hunt used it three times in his lost diary of 1811!
So maybe Webster is not up to date.
Wyeth also used 'jaunt' once in his second expedition (1834)
Ferris used 'jaunt' in his book about his travels (1830 - 1835)
So I conclude that 'trek' is at least as appropriate as 'jaunt'.
Glenn Darilek
Iron Burner
(part of original post follows)
"Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary lists the first
written usage of the word 'trek' as a verb (to travel by ox wagon) in 1821
and as a noun (a journey by ox wagon) in 1835. Because of its Afrikaans
origin, most would doubt that the word was in use in the West.
The word 'jaunt' is documented as being in written usage as a verb (to
trudge about) in 1575 and as a noun (a tiring trip) in 1801.
I agree with Mr.. Barkin that 'trek' is improper and inappropriate. I like
his
'jaunt' better. I associate the word 'trek' with space science fiction,
which I have never liked. Evidently he has found that the word 'jaunt' was
used by Lt. Ruxton.
I seem to remember that Ruxton's hunts in the West were after 1840. I have
no references at hand to check this, but maybe Mr. Barkin found an earlier
reference. If this is not so, maybe we better not be too quick to adopt a
word that is not 100 percent defensible.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:06:54 -0400
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
I just tend to "wander"..<G>
D
- --
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DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements
http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
------------------------------
Date: 5 Oct 1999 10:21:21 -0700
From: turtle@uswestmail.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
On Tue, 05 October 1999, Dennis Miles wrote:
>
> I just tend to "wander"..<G>
> D
Would that be "ditto" or "agreed", know I'll sleep better..<GG>
Take care - we leave as friends,
Lee "Turtle" Boyer
Historical Advisor - Parks & Rec.
State College, Pennsylvania
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Date: 5 Oct 1999 10:37:16 -0700
From: "Concho" <concho@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Health ISSUES W/Metals.
Hey Buck,
This has the signs of becoming quite a project - what you and Victoria, John and Mike have said so far is what is needed for each person to make his/her mind up to what they want to do, at least they have the information, that's a plus.
> I don't think it would be real period from looking at it that way, maybe better for a shooting supplier like Log Cabin Shop, etc. to handle a few health aids, seeing how they are the ones that are causing the problem in a round about way, just a thought. What do you folks think, I would be interested in your opinions.
>
Agreed a 110%, what about the big manufacturers of the guns, melting pots, moulds, etc. - they make the bucks and just sit back and the hell with any responsiblity as far as warnings or methods to lower the danger of using these metals, etc. Haven't seen any warnings since the "agent orange" problem after the fact - typical.
Thanks for the alert and keep the information coming, got it filed as suggested.
"May the spirit be with you"
D.L."Concho" Smith
Livingston, MO.
Historical Coordinator - Missouri
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:50:36 -0500
From: "Texan" <texan@cowtown.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Health ISSUES W/Metals.
Mr. Concho, <G>,
Can you please contact me at vapate@juno.com?
Victoria
------------------------------
Date: 5 Oct 1999 10:46:12 -0700
From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
> On Tue, 05 October 1999, Dennis Miles wrote:
>
> >
> > I just tend to "wander"..<G>
> > D
More like "stumbling" along. <GGG>
Later,
Buck Conner
AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado
Aux Ailments de Pays!
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:51:06 -0400
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trek vs jaunt (revisited)
Better 'n "stagger" hehehe
D
Buck wrote:
>
> More like "stumbling" along. <GGG>
>
> Later,
> Buck Conner
>
> AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado
> Aux Ailments de Pays!
> _____________________________
>
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------------------------------
Date: 5 Oct 1999 10:54:01 -0700
From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Health ISSUES W/Metals.
On Tue, 05 October 1999, "Concho" wrote:
>
> Hey Buck,
>
> This has the signs of becoming quite a project - what you and Victoria, John and Mike have said so far is what is needed for each person to make his/her mind up to what they want to do, at least they have the information.........
___________________________________
Hey, as much lead as you and Turtle have been around, take this to heart and really look into this and the blood tests, I'm going to have a "blood test" and do the "hair tests".
Then make my own mind up to which direction I should go with, and one will double check the other to a point from what I have read - good information for anyone in this sport.
Later,
Buck Conner
AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado
Aux Ailments de Pays!
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 11:44:10 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Vic Barkin
Totally Understand what you are saying.
>
>To tell the truth, I got sick of the politics and getting verbally attacked
>for things I had no control over. I do this for fun, not to field
>everybody's gripes. I'm much happier dealing with things on a local level,
>putting on rendezvous, shoots, going on Jaunts, rides and the like. I 've
>always felt my time is much better spent doing things I enjoy. Call me
>selfish, but I deal with enough politics at work. I will check your page
>soon, haven't yet. I'll let you know.
>
>Vic
>
>>U were an NMLRA Field Rep. Why did you drop that job?? We are working our
>>Rumps off to get more folks to WNS this year. You check out my M/B??
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Of course! Haven't nailed down the schedule yet, but the Powderhorn Clan
>>>will be helping out in some fashion again, I'm sure.
>>>
>>>Vic
>>>
>>>PS. for the record, I stand corrected on Trek, but still prefer Jaunt!
>>>
>>>Vic
>>>
>>>>You had been quiet so I thought the worst. I put up a Winter Nationals
>>>>Board, and Muzzle loading Type M/B Check it out. also a Trade Blanket.
>>>>
>>>>See Ya @ WNS???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No Bruce,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm still here. In and out alot and not very active with the list, but
>>>>>reading with interest as always, If I did miss your posts, could you
>>>>>resend? I tend to go through things pretty quickly sometimes and may have
>>>>>inadvertantly deleted yours. If so I apologize. Check my address to see if
>>>>>it's up to date. My domain name changed a little while back.
>>>>>
>>>>>Vic
>>>>>
>>>>>victor.barkin@nau.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>>Has Vic changed jobs or?? I have e-mailed him three time in three weeks
>>>>>>, and no reply???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Penny Pincher
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Penny Pincher
>>>>Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
>>>>Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
>>>>http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
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>>Penny Pincher
>>Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
>>Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
>>http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
>
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Penny Pincher
Visit Penny Pincher's West of the Mississippi,
Muzzleloading & Black Powder Message Forum
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb750171
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