Subject: Re: MtMan-List: long, but worth pondering
Washtahay-
No, its really not. It pertains to the study of the fur trade how?
LongWalker c. du B.
At 10:15 PM 7/1/99 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I think this is rather interesting. Long, but keep reading
>>>
>>>Charlton Heston, speaking on 'Winning the Cultural War,' Tuesday, February
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Newbill <lnewbill@uidaho.edu>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Hall (Idaho) and the Mountain Man Museum (Pinedale, WY)
Stopped by both Fort Hall and the Mountain Man Museum during my little
2500 mile odessey of a vacation. Ran out of time to see all the other
places I wanted to....
Fort Hall. Interesting place. I'd like to hear other's opinions of the
replica. I was impressed by the amount of work it took to build it, and
it is obviously maintained very well..... but.... it almost seems that it
was built, and then forgotten. A gem never cut and polished, no
curator(?), no knowledgable guides(?). I couldna even find a printed
history of the post at the gift/book store. They do have a nice saddle
(Shoshone ?) that I took about 100 pictures of. While it fell
short of what I had imagined... overall I think it's worth stopping in to
see... probably a lot better on the weekends if you can catch some of the
local skinners in.
The Mountain Man Museum. I was very dissapointed in this museum. It was
broad brush at it's best. A video from the 70's with Charlie Hanson was
interesting, but the whole thing seemed aimed more at tourists than the
scholar... which I suppose it is. They had one of Kit's later guns
there, and some other guns... only one of which was flint.. an old beat up
british smoothie in about .72 cal (or so). Also had some nice examples
of hand forged traps, and some good examples of moccs. They do not allow
any photographs inside the museum though.
Think I need to head fer the Dakota's next vacation.
Regards
Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
NMLRA member 058863
email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
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Date: 2 Jul 1999 05:36:59 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Hall (Idaho) and the Mountain Man Museum (Pinedale, WY)
Lee,
Have seen what you mentioned and have never said anything, thinking maybe it was me expecting to much, guess my thoughts were like yours. I thought I was spoiled because of fur trade forts like Bent's Fort, Ft. Union, Ft. deChartre, Ft. Osage, Ft. Charlette and the Museum of the Fur Trade to mention a few, thanks for how you felt on your visits.
Our governments will take the time, spend our money and then fall short on the least expensive part, providing educational material and knowledgeable guides. Most folks interested in history, reenactments, etc. would give their "I" teeth to work in these places and have fun doing it. And again we the tax payers take it in the shorts.
Later
YF&B
Buck Conner
Jim Baker Party/Colorado Territory
Get a subscription to a journal of the fur trade and early history of the times, the one the American Mountain Men read and write.
The Tomahawk & Long Rifle
3483 Squires
Conklin, MI 49403
ATTN: Jon Link
The subscription for the bi-monthly journal is $20 for a year or $35 for two years. Give it a try, you'll blow that much in a couple of stops at 7-11 for junk food.
> Stopped by both Fort Hall and the Mountain Man Museum during my little
> 2500 mile odessey of a vacation. Ran out of time to see all the other
> places I wanted to....
>
> Fort Hall. Interesting place. I'd like to hear other's opinions of the
> replica. I was impressed by the amount of work it took to build it, and
> it is obviously maintained very well..... but.... it almost seems that it
> was built, and then forgotten. A gem never cut and polished, no
> curator(?), no knowledgable guides(?). I couldna even find a printed
> history of the post at the gift/book store. They do have a nice saddle
> (Shoshone ?) that I took about 100 pictures of. While it fell
> short of what I had imagined... overall I think it's worth stopping in to
> see... probably a lot better on the weekends if you can catch some of the
> local skinners in.
>
> The Mountain Man Museum. I was very dissapointed in this museum. It was
> broad brush at it's best. A video from the 70's with Charlie Hanson was
> interesting, but the whole thing seemed aimed more at tourists than the
> scholar... which I suppose it is. They had one of Kit's later guns
> there, and some other guns... only one of which was flint.. an old beat up
> british smoothie in about .72 cal (or so). Also had some nice examples
> of hand forged traps, and some good examples of moccs. They do not allow
> any photographs inside the museum though.
>
> Think I need to head fer the Dakota's next vacation.
>
> Regards
>
> Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
> NMLRA member 058863
> email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu
> Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
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Date: 2 Jul 1999 08:17:43 -0700
From: <turtle@uswestmail.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal
A good way to get to know the AMM - it's values and what to expect is do as Buck Conner has suggested.
Turtle.
_______________________
Get a subscription to a journal of the fur trade and early history of the times, the one the American Mountain Men read and write.
The Tomahawk & Long Rifle
3483 Squires
Conklin, MI 49403
ATTN: Jon Link
The subscription for the bi-monthly journal is $20 for a year or $35 for two years. Give it a try, you'll blow that much in a couple of stops at 7-11 for junk food.
______________________________
> On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:53:36 -0500 Jim Colburn <jc60714@navix.net>
> writes:
> >Washtahay-
> >At 08:35 PM 6/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >>How does one go about joining the AMM? There's only a handful of
> >skinners in my immediate area, most folks are Civil War folks.
> > Todd, they don't really exist.
> > Its really just two or three guys who came up with this great
> >scheme to
> >drive people crazy-lets PRETEND to start this really neat sounding
> >organization. When people try to contact us to ask about joining,
> >we'll
> >send them to someone else, who will send them to someone else, and so
> >on
> >and so on.... it took a lot of time, writing a lot of letters, making
> >a
> >lot of phone calls, spending a lot of money to travel a lot of miles
> >to
> >meet folks who didn't show up (if they ever existed!) when they said
> >they
> >would before I figured that one out.
> > I'm not sure who the two or three guys are though. One of
> >these days I am
> >gonna come up with some really great trade goods to bribe Hawk or John
> >Kramer into telling me-pretty sure one or the other of them would have
> >some
> >clues.
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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:01:52 -0700
From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal
The publication is not bi-monthly, it is quarterly: February, May, August,
September......more or less.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <turtle@uswestmail.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 8:17 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal
> A good way to get to know the AMM - it's values and what to expect is do
as Buck Conner has suggested.
> Turtle.
> _______________________
> Get a subscription to a journal of the fur trade and early history of the
times, the one the American Mountain Men read and write.
>
> The Tomahawk & Long Rifle
> 3483 Squires
> Conklin, MI 49403
> ATTN: Jon Link
>
> The subscription for the bi-monthly journal is $20 for a year or $35 for
two years. Give it a try, you'll blow that much in a couple of stops at 7-11
for junk food.
> ______________________________
> > On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:53:36 -0500 Jim Colburn <jc60714@navix.net>
> > writes:
> > >Washtahay-
> > >At 08:35 PM 6/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>How does one go about joining the AMM? There's only a handful of
> > >skinners in my immediate area, most folks are Civil War folks.
> > > Todd, they don't really exist.
> > > Its really just two or three guys who came up with this great
> > >scheme to
> > >drive people crazy-lets PRETEND to start this really neat sounding
> > >organization. When people try to contact us to ask about joining,
> > >we'll
> > >send them to someone else, who will send them to someone else, and so
> > >on
> > >and so on.... it took a lot of time, writing a lot of letters, making
> > >a
> > >lot of phone calls, spending a lot of money to travel a lot of miles
> > >to
> > >meet folks who didn't show up (if they ever existed!) when they said
> > >they
> > >would before I figured that one out.
> > > I'm not sure who the two or three guys are though. One of
> > >these days I am
> > >gonna come up with some really great trade goods to bribe Hawk or John
> > >Kramer into telling me-pretty sure one or the other of them would have
> > >some
> > >clues.
>
>
>
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