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hist_text-digest        Tuesday, June 15 1999        Volume 01 : Number 312




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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:53:53 -0500
From: "William S. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

Like I've said before, I don't post much. But this story here, is pure sheep
dip. It is obviously a veiled way of promoting an organization which claims
to be Christian but is, in fact, 180 degrees the opposite, i.e., it's a
pretty cheesy way of "PR"ing for the people who say all other creeds are an
abomination to God, and theirs is the only true church on the face of the
earth. These are the same folks whose 8th Article of Faith claims that they
believe the Bible so far as it is translated correctly. A convenient cop out
for doctrinal differences.

Sorry to rant, but I've seen first hand, the damage to families. I know a
number of RM's, former Stake and Ward level authorities (ex-authorities) who
have fled this outfit. This exodus continues, and retention is pathetic, but
this is obfuscated in various ways.

"Waffalo"
Hiveranno, AMM # 907
Past KY Bde. Booshway

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Dean Rudy
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:40 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era


>X-Template: /home/users/d/drudy/public_html/mail.txt
>To: <[e-mail]>
>From: Linde Knighton <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era
>Sender: WWW Support <[e-mail]>
>Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:33:02 -0600
>
>I finally got my novel posted on line, and I want to make sure
> everyone who might be interested can read it. It is set in
>1847, along the Oregon, then the Mormon trails. One of the
>main characters is a young woman who sets off west.
>She has been a trapper, and is now guiding a New Englander to Utah.
>     Some very interesting interactions with Jayhawkers, a Mountain man,
>Mormons and Indians. Look under original fiction at:
>http://dreamworker-magazine.com/frontpage/contents.htm
>Simahoyo
>
>
>
>--
>This e-mail was generated from the world-wide web; the e-mail address
>    "Linde Knighton <[e-mail]>"
>may be incorrect.
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:57:09 -0700
From: "Frank" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

Yup!  Have to throw in with Waffalo, sound wisdom ol'hos!

Medicine Bear


- ----- Original Message -----
From: William S. Jones <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era


> Like I've said before, I don't post much. But this story here, is pure
sheep
> dip. It is obviously a veiled way of promoting an organization which
claims
> to be Christian but is, in fact, 180 degrees the opposite, i.e., it's a
> pretty cheesy way of "PR"ing for the people who say all other creeds are
an
> abomination to God, and theirs is the only true church on the face of the
> earth. These are the same folks whose 8th Article of Faith claims that
they
> believe the Bible so far as it is translated correctly. A convenient cop
out
> for doctrinal differences.
>
> Sorry to rant, but I've seen first hand, the damage to families. I know a
> number of RM's, former Stake and Ward level authorities (ex-authorities)
who
> have fled this outfit. This exodus continues, and retention is pathetic,
but
> this is obfuscated in various ways.
>
> "Waffalo"
> Hiveranno, AMM # 907
> Past KY Bde. Booshway
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Dean Rudy
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:40 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era
>
>
> >X-Template: /home/users/d/drudy/public_html/mail.txt
> >To: <[e-mail]>
> >From: Linde Knighton <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era
> >Sender: WWW Support <[e-mail]>
> >Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:33:02 -0600
> >
> >I finally got my novel posted on line, and I want to make sure
> > everyone who might be interested can read it. It is set in
> >1847, along the Oregon, then the Mormon trails. One of the
> >main characters is a young woman who sets off west.
> >She has been a trapper, and is now guiding a New Englander to Utah.
> >     Some very interesting interactions with Jayhawkers, a Mountain man,
> >Mormons and Indians. Look under original fiction at:
> >http://dreamworker-magazine.com/frontpage/contents.htm
> >Simahoyo
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >This e-mail was generated from the world-wide web; the e-mail address
> >    "Linde Knighton <[e-mail]>"
> >may be incorrect.
> >
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:57:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

I thought this was a sight for study, learning and interst in the mountain
man era.  I also thought that as an AMM member otner's religions were their
business.  I find it rather distressing that this sight just became another
way to denegrate the religious beliefs of others. Whether you agree with them
or not is not the point nor the purpose of this sight.

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:07:13 -0500
From: "William S. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

I reckon that you're hyperventilating to Mr. Dean Rudy, then. He let this
'cur dog' loose in th' camp, although I don't think he really knew what kind
of a mongrel he'd set loose. Rudy is a perty good feller, as far as I can
tell. And I can agree that this is not the site for this cheese dip Mormon
PR. And yes, they do put all other religions down as having no authority ...
so I reckon we're in agreement. Let's stick to AMM doins, so folks like
WORPACH don't git distressed!!!

On ter th' shinin' mountains!!!!

"Waffalo"
Hiveranno, AMM # 907
Past KY Bde. Booshway

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of [e-mail]
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 3:58 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era


I thought this was a sight for study, learning and interst in the mountain
man era.  I also thought that as an AMM member otner's religions were their
business.  I find it rather distressing that this sight just became another
way to denegrate the religious beliefs of others. Whether you agree with
them
or not is not the point nor the purpose of this sight.

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:43:51 -0500
From: Jim Colburn <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

Washtahay-
At 04:57 PM 6/13/99 EDT, you wrote:
>I thought this was a sight for study, learning and interst in the mountain
>man era.  I also thought that as an AMM member otner's religions were their
>business.  I find it rather distressing that this sight just became another
>way to denegrate the religious beliefs of others. Whether you agree with
them
>or not is not the point nor the purpose of this sight.
    Couldn't care less about religions of others, or how they choose to
represent themselves.  Been called a "damned heathen" so much I just ignore
it all.  Figure if folks want to discuss their religion it must be because
they aren't capable of thinking of anything of interest to others.
    My first reaction to the description of the _storyline_ was to compare it
to a ceramic fecal container.  After a brief perusal of the text, is it
acceptable to describe it as a "poorly written, thinly disguised attempt at
revisionist history", possibly further adding the opinion that it is a
"waste of perfectly good electrons"?
    At least no trees died in the publishing of the story-unlike some others
that could be named.
LongWalker c. du B., bibliophile and literary critic

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:10:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

Distress Factor........Low
I truely enjoy this sight and the banter, knowledge and good info that is
passed around.  I'm new to this stuff (one very green pilgrim) so I have lots
to learn and respect the knowledge of many of you who have been at this for
some time.  Don't mean to raise a ruckuss .  Its just that I get enough
religion without havin to rehash it on a sight of considerable interest to
myself.
As I spend more time at this I may even, someday, have something of real
value to pass along and share with those of you who have shared so much.

By the way....I read a lot about deer, elk and buffalo but have found
precious little about moose.  Is that because they smell so bad when trying
to tan their hides or was moose hide not very popular for some other reason?
I find it pretty tough (long wearing)but very expensive (I usually pick one
hide up per year when a friend makes meat out of one of those big bulls).

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:32:23 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

Don't hold back when you have something on your mind.  Jump up on your =
back legs and let fly.  You might be surprised at how much you DO know.  =
And if your knowledge is a little weak it is apt to be strengthened =
pretty quickly.
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era


> Distress Factor........Low
> I truely enjoy this sight and the banter, knowledge and good info that =
is=20
> passed around.  I'm new to this stuff (one very green pilgrim) so I =
have lots=20
> to learn and respect the knowledge of many of you who have been at =
this for=20
> some time.  Don't mean to raise a ruckuss .  Its just that I get =
enough=20
> religion without havin to rehash it on a sight of considerable =
interest to=20
> myself.
> As I spend more time at this I may even, someday, have something of =
real=20
> value to pass along and share with those of you who have shared so =
much. =20
>=20
> By the way....I read a lot about deer, elk and buffalo but have found=20
> precious little about moose.  Is that because they smell so bad when =
trying=20
> to tan their hides or was moose hide not very popular for some other =
reason? =20
> I find it pretty tough (long wearing)but very expensive (I usually =
pick one=20
> hide up per year when a friend makes meat out of one of those big =
bulls).
>=20

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:48:35 -0700
From: Roger Lahti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

[e-mail] wrote:

> Distress Factor........Low
>   Don't mean to raise a ruckuss .  Its just that I get enough
> religion without havin to rehash it on a sight of considerable interest to
> myself.

Distress Factor nonexistent. I was a bit surprised to see the subject come up. I
started to read the "novel" and very quickly judged it to be of such amateurish
quality as not to be worth the time and at my age time is precious! That's what
the "delete" key is for and I ain't afraid to use it. Which is what I did. As to
what the "novel" supposedly really was all about, that must be the reason that
lists such as this one and the other one I subscribe to (MLML) don't allow
discussions of off topic subjects, such as politics, religion and etc. Too many
opinions and not enough band width to carry them all, that and talk about history
or muzzle loading too.

But like Lanney said, don't fret about jumping in. We all be green horns at one
time or another and we all be Pilgrims to our dying day! Heck, how you ever gona
find out you don't know what the hell your talking about if you don't throw it
out and let the rest of us jump on your hat! <G> I remain......

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

> As I spend more time at this I may even, someday, have something of real
> value to pass along and share with those of you who have shared so much.
>
> By the way....I read a lot about deer, elk and buffalo but have found
> precious little about moose.  Is that because they smell so bad when trying
> to tan their hides or was moose hide not very popular for some other reason?
> I find it pretty tough (long wearing)but very expensive (I usually pick one
> hide up per year when a friend makes meat out of one of those big bulls).

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:11:23 +0000
From: Joseph Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era

I whole hearfedly agree. It is not like the story was included within
this [e-mail] but rather as a link for those who
chose to to go read the story.

Anyone not wanting to read about it should just ignore the link and
delete the message.
I am sure we all have our likes, dislikes, and preferences but this is
America and we all don't have to believe in what anyone else dictates to
us.

Be an American believe in this country as a melting pot not only of
peoples but ideas and beliefs.


[e-mail] wrote:
> I thought this was a sight for study, learning and interest in the mountain
> man era.  I also thought that as an AMM member otner's religions were their
> business.  I find it rather distressing that this sight just became another
> way to denegrate the religious beliefs of others. Whether you agree with them
> or not is not the point nor the purpose of this sight.

Sincerely,
Joseph Miller
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:58:23 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail] (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: MtMan-List: Ideas Needed

Well I am looking for some ideas for a scrimshaw project, and after the response
 I got last night about Isaac Haines.  Thanks again to all who helped, tried to s
end you all a personal thank you.

Thought I might bounce another question of you all.  I am looking for some ideas
as to what might be appropriate subject matter to Scrimshaw on a Flintlock Horn S
et, for a 1770's Person, (Hunter, Longhunter, Early Resistance Fighter Pre Revolu
tionary War) living in or around Lancaster Co.  PA.  If you all could point me to
 any web-site with either folk art, hunting maps, or other ideas it would be appr
eciated.  I already saw the web site of Mark "Crooked Hand" Tango, the famous hor
n maker, and scrimshaw artist....

Thanks,

B

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:43:46 -0400
From: Michael Pierce <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ideas Needed

 [e-mail] (BRUCE S. DE LIS) writes:
>
>Well I am looking for some ideas for a scrimshaw project,
>  I am looking for some ideas as to what might be appropriate subject
matter to > >Scrimshaw on a Flintlock Horn Set, for a 1770's Person,
(Hunter, Longhunter, Early >Resistance Fighter Pre Revolutionary War)
living in or around Lancaster Co.  PA.  If >you all could point me to
any web-site with either folk art, hunting maps, or other ideas >it would
be appr eciated.

Suggest you look at madison grants book on the kentuckey rifle hunting
pouch library of congress #77-72196  starting on page 148 shows horns
made in 1758 and goes on from there---nice name horn, nice map horn in
loate 101---plate 102 on page 150 is a nice fancy horn---page 152 and 153
are plain horns---page 155 shows a double hornpage 157 shows some
primeing horns

if you thumb thru the book you should get a couple of nice ideas---I do
ever time i look at it.

hope i have been of assistance to you---

YMHOSANT
        =+=
      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]     E-MAIL ADDRESS: [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:51:29 -0600
From: "Ron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Neck Knives

What would be the proper style of knife for a neck knife during the early
Ft. Hall era?

Thanks
Ron


[e-mail]
www.ida.net/users/cstmzd/trappers.html

"What part of: 'Thou Shalt not...' didn't you understand"?

GOD

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:13:45 -0500
From: Jim Colburn <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Neck Knives

Washtahay-
At 10:51 PM 6/13/99 -0600, you wrote:
>What would be the proper style of knife for a neck knife during the early
>Ft. Hall era?
    None.
LongWalker c. du B.

Jim Colburn
    Hey folks-lets all send copies of our spam to the president at the Direct
Mail Advertisers-if he can testify to various legislatures that it is not a
problem, surely he won't mind receiving it? That's <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:49:10 -0500
From: John Kramer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Neck Knives OT

IS THIS LEGAL???

I kind of like the idea, set up auto forwarding, hmmmm!

John

At 12:13 AM 6/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Hey folks-lets all send copies of our spam to the president at the Direct
>Mail Advertisers-if he can testify to various legislatures that it is not a
>problem, surely he won't mind receiving it? That's <[e-mail]>
>

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 04:07:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Novel on-line is about Fur trade era  off topic

Dear "Waffalo",
  I had to respond to your post.  I live in an area where this cult is nearly
overpowering.  Ironically,  several months ago in our local paper,  they (the
paper) were doing a series on different religions,  this group was "whining"
abot how rough they have it. Oh Please!!!  I could tell you blood curdling
true stories. but I wont waste anymore time.  If anyone would like to chat
about this,  please feel free to contact me off list   [e-mail].

ymhs
Wade

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 03:29:43 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Neck Knives

I think Ft Hall may be a bit late for neck knives(but I love em anyway!)
Neck knives were mostly from the Great Lakes-Eastern Woodlands area. I have
to find a file I saved from another list,but in general the neck knives
available today are usually much smaller than the knives available for trade
in the 18th century. Dennis Miles (Blacksmith)on this list might have some?
I would be interested in finding doc. for the neck knife in the mountains
myself!

P.S. May I borrow your tagline?

   >What would be the proper style of knife for a neck knife during the
   >early Ft. Hall era?
   >Thanks
   >Ron
   >[e-mail]
   >www.ida.net/users/cstmzd/trappers.html
   >"What part of: 'Thou Shalt not...' didn't you understand"?
   >GOD

Jeff Powers,A mind like a steel trap:Rusty and illegal in 37 states!

Proud to be a Jesus Freak :-)

Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:48:59 -0500
From: "northwoods" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ideas Needed

Bruce,
Suggest you check out "American Folk Art, The Carved and Engraved
Powderhorn." It is written by my friend Jim Dresslar from
Bargersville, Indiana. The book is available from him among other places.
This book contains some of the best photography work you will ever see in a
book of this type. All Color and over 100 horns illustrated. The earliest I
believe is from 1741 and others date into the Mountain Man period with the
majority being rev. war era.
Jim has really done a wonderful job of displaying some of the best original
horns in the country. These horns  are very interesting to look at and
study.
 Visiting Jims museum was a real treat. Got to see first hand over 50
original horns, original Hawkens, very nice original longrifles, ball headed
warclubs, pipeaxes, bowie knives, indian artifacts, and on and on.

One downside of the book is that it costs a 100$ and thats quite pricey for
most folks, however it is the definitive book on the subject,( I feel and
I've seen most) and long after the pain of of purchase is gone you can be
enjoying the book.

BTW, regarding the question you had on Haines work, Kauffmans  and Shumways
books are the only place I found references to him in my library.
"Rifles of Colonial America" is the book to look at however very difficult
to find a copy. Saw only 1 copy for sale in the last several months and they
wanted 225$ and it sold very quickly. If you are interested of seeing this
book and are unable to locate a copy please contact me of list.

Tony Clark


- -----Original Message-----
From: BRUCE S. DE LIS <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 8:58 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Ideas Needed


>
>
>Well I am looking for some ideas for a scrimshaw project, and after the
response
> I got last night about Isaac Haines.  Thanks again to all who helped, t
>end you all a personal thank you.
>
>Thought I might bounce another question of you all.  I am looking for some
ideas
>as to what might be appropriate subject matter to Scrimshaw on a Flintlock
Horn S
>et, for a 1770's Person, (Hunter, Longhunter, Early Resistance Fighter Pre
Revolu
>tionary War) living in or around Lancaster Co.  PA.  If you all could point
me to
> any web-site with either folk art, hunting maps, or other ideas it would
be appr
>eciated.  I already saw the web site of Mark "Crooked Hand" Tango, the
famous hor
>n maker, and scrimshaw artist....
>
>Thanks,
>
>B
>
>

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:15:52 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: was Neck Knives OT now spam

In a message dated 6/14/99 1:50:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< IS THIS LEGAL??? >>
if they can spam me..i can damn well spam them..

zopi

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:58:17 -0700
From: Ridgerunner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Neck Knives OT

John Kramer wrote:
>
> IS THIS LEGAL???
>
> I kind of like the idea, set up auto forwarding, hmmmm!
>
> John
>

    If they can dump on me, I can dump  back.  What does legal have
to do with this one?  How do I set up auto-forwarding?  Best idea
I've heard in years.  Where do I send it?

    Butch



- --
I don't want to be your lullaby.
Michelle Kwan

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:58:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Pickert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Neck Knives

Ron:

I am not familure with the ft hall era? But in the book Mistic Warriors
or the plains by Thomas E Mails covers 1750 thru 1875 and there is neck
knives in use. I have not had time to look it up and see if it tell the
exact time period. also if any one is interested in this book which
usually runs $50. they can get it for $24.95 plus #3.oo shipping thru
Edward R Hamilton, Falls Village, Ct  o6031-5000 He also has lots of
other books at very good prices, check him out.

Walks
- --- Ron <[e-mail]> wrote:
> What would be the proper style of knife for a neck
> knife during the early
> Ft. Hall era?
>
> Thanks
> Ron
>
>
> [e-mail]
> www.ida.net/users/cstmzd/trappers.html
>
> "What part of: 'Thou Shalt not...' didn't you
> understand"?
>
> GOD
>
>
>

===


      Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert


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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:45:42 +0000
From: Laura Rugel Glise <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Brotherhood

3:30 p.m. EST

Gentlemen:

    This morning I had the good fortune of seeing Stephen Ambrose discuss
his new book, Comrades, on the TODAY Show.  During part of the segment,
Ambrose read his personal definition of friendship.

    For the last few months, I have been a part of this "list."  I have sat
in the dark at my computer and read many of your posts to one another
that deal with the brotherhood you have between you.  I have been
privileged to enjoy your sense of humor, your sense of loyalty to one
another, and your genuine concern for one another.

    When I heard Ambrose's definition of friendship, it brought this
brotherhood you share to mind.  I rushed to a bookstore today, stood in
the back with a pen and paper, and wrote down the definition.  I send it
out to each of you as a Father's Day gift.


    "Friendship is different from all other relationships.  Unlike
acquaintanceship it is based on love.  Unlike lovers and married
couples, it is free of jealousy.  Unlike children and parents it knows
neither criticism nor resentment.  Friendship has no status in law.
Business partnerships are based on a contract.  So is marriage.  Parents
are bound by law, as are children.  But friendship is freely entered
into, freely given, freely exercised.

    Friends never cheat each other, or take advantage, or lie.  Friends do
not spy on one another, yet they have no secrets.  Friends glory in each
other's successes and are downcast by the failures.  Friends minister to
each other, nurse each other.  Friends give to each other, worry about
each other, stand always ready to help.  Perfect friendship is rarely
achieved, but at its height it is an ecstasy.  For Lewis and Clark, it
was such an ecstasy, and the critical factor in their success.  But even
at its highest, friendship is human, not godlike.  For all his efforts
and intentions, Clark could not save Lewis.  But they gave each other
everything that can be drawn from a friendship, including their finest
moments.  Through their trust of each other they put themselves into the
top rank of world explorers.  And they gave to their country its epic
poem while introducing the American people to the American West.

Best wishes,
Laura Glise
Atlanta

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