Hey Mike, now that you mentioned it have done the same thing and shot that same little double, forgot about that, thank you. Once in awhile Charley would get a wild hair and do something like that.
Buck
_________________________________
> On Tue, 01 June 1999, Mike Rock wrote:
>
> Charlie was a dear one. In 78 after dad had died, I went out to
> Scottsbluff on business. Stopped by on the way to the Hills and Charlie
> was cleaning guns before the 'touri' influx. I cleaned and polished and
> drooled. Cleaned some more. Along in the afternoon, Charlie says,
> don't clean those two. Ok. He grabbed a horn and some bags. He threw
> corn cobs and I shot a sweet little double gun. Hit, too. Then he
> dragged out a Hawken, and I can't for the life of me remember whose it
> was. The double was Kit Carsons. Shot a few more and then cleaned
> them. He said, "I always wondered how that little double would shoot".
> He had never fired it himself, but half a dozen people over the years
> had felt Kit's spirit fill them. Raises the hair on my arms now just to
> remember.
>
> God Bless you Charlie.
>
> And God Bless you Buck.
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I was with Buck, and several others from that club, and I got to shoot Kit's double and hit, well almost, darn close and that's neat.
Turtle.
PA Colonies
> On Tue, 01 June 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote:
>
> Hey Mike, now that you mentioned it have done the same thing and shot that same little double, forgot about that, thank you. Once in awhile Charley would get a wild hair and do something like that.
>
> Buck
> _________________________________
> > On Tue, 01 June 1999, Mike Rock wrote:
> >
> > Charlie was a dear one. In 78 after dad had died, I went out to
> > Scottsbluff on business. Stopped by on the way to the Hills and Charlie
> > was cleaning guns before the 'touri' influx. I cleaned and polished and
> > drooled. Cleaned some more. Along in the afternoon, Charlie says,
> > don't clean those two. Ok. He grabbed a horn and some bags. He threw
> > corn cobs and I shot a sweet little double gun. Hit, too. Then he
> > dragged out a Hawken, and I can't for the life of me remember whose it
> > was. The double was Kit Carsons. Shot a few more and then cleaned
> > them. He said, "I always wondered how that little double would shoot".
> > He had never fired it himself, but half a dozen people over the years
> > had felt Kit's spirit fill them. Raises the hair on my arms now just to
> > remember.
> >
> > God Bless you Charlie.
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Date: 01 Jun 99 17:14:50 -0600
From: Phyllis and Don Keas <pdkeas@market1.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: E-mail Hoax?
If you are thinking that our wonderful government would ever stoop so low
as to charge on e-mail you are right.
We have a line just for the computor. When we got the bill, my wife
found a new charge: $6.07 for Federal Access Charge. When I called US West
to ask about it, I was told it was because internet users tied up the lines
for so long that our government was charging for doing so.
Apparently not to be outdone, US West was also charging us for not having
long distance. When I asked about that, here was the answer: Long
distance companys pay US West for long distance lines. When you don't have
long distance service, they charge you for loss of revenue that they would
have received if you had long distance.
Ain't government and big business grand?
DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants
Your getting old, you where not within a foot of that apple, damn the older you get the closer you think you where. If we're around 20 years from now, you'll be claiming to have skinned and diced that apple. I bet Kit wondered who in the hell let this fool shoot my double. On second thought, maybe that's how some of these stories got started, old age !!!!
Have a nice day.
Later
Buck
____________________
> On Tue, 01 June 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> I was with Buck, and several others from that club, and I got to shoot Kit's double and hit, well almost, darn close and that's neat.
> Turtle.
> PA Colonies
>
>
> > On Tue, 01 June 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote:
> >
> > Hey Mike, now that you mentioned it have done the same thing and shot that same little double, forgot about that, thank you. Once in awhile Charley would get a wild hair and do something like that.
> >
> > Buck
> > _________________________________
> > > On Tue, 01 June 1999, Mike Rock wrote:
> > >
> > > Charlie was a dear one. In 78 after dad had died, I went out to
> > > Scottsbluff on business. Stopped by on the way to the Hills and Charlie
> > > was cleaning guns before the 'touri' influx. I cleaned and polished and
> > > drooled. Cleaned some more. Along in the afternoon, Charlie says,
> > > don't clean those two. Ok. He grabbed a horn and some bags. He threw
> > > corn cobs and I shot a sweet little double gun. Hit, too. Then he
> > > dragged out a Hawken, and I can't for the life of me remember whose it
> > > was. The double was Kit Carsons. Shot a few more and then cleaned
> > > them. He said, "I always wondered how that little double would shoot".
> > > He had never fired it himself, but half a dozen people over the years
> > > had felt Kit's spirit fill them. Raises the hair on my arms now just to
> > > remember.
> > >
> > > God Bless you Charlie.
>
>
> Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net
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Being the gentlemen that I am and feeling that you are trying to make me feel bad, I think I should........... Nuts I forgot what I was going to say.
You have a nice too.
Turtle.
> On Tue, 01 June 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote:
>
> Turtle,
> Your getting old, you where not within a foot of that apple, damn the older you get the closer you think you where. If we're around 20 years from now, you'll be claiming to have skinned and diced that apple. I bet Kit wondered who in the hell let this fool shoot my double. On second thought, maybe that's how some of these stories got started, old age !!!!
>
> Have a nice day.
> Later
> Buck
> ____________________
>
> > On Tue, 01 June 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> > I was with Buck, and several others from that club, and I got to shoot Kit's double and hit, well almost, darn close and that's neat.
> > Turtle.
> > PA Colonies
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 01 June 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mike, now that you mentioned it have done the same thing and shot that same little double, forgot about that, thank you. Once in awhile Charley would get a wild hair and do something like that.
> > >
> > > Buck
> > > _________________________________
> > > > On Tue, 01 June 1999, Mike Rock wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Charlie was a dear one. In 78 after dad had died, I went out to
> > > > Scottsbluff on business. Stopped by on the way to the Hills and Charlie
> > > > was cleaning guns before the 'touri' influx. I cleaned and polished and
> > > > drooled. Cleaned some more. Along in the afternoon, Charlie says,
> > > > don't clean those two. Ok. He grabbed a horn and some bags. He threw
> > > > corn cobs and I shot a sweet little double gun. Hit, too. Then he
> > > > dragged out a Hawken, and I can't for the life of me remember whose it
> > > > was. The double was Kit Carsons. Shot a few more and then cleaned
> > > > them. He said, "I always wondered how that little double would shoot".
> > > > He had never fired it himself, but half a dozen people over the years
> > > > had felt Kit's spirit fill them. Raises the hair on my arms now just to
> > > > remember.
> > > >
> > > > God Bless you Charlie.
> >
> >
> > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net
>
>
> Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net
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> On Tue, 01 June 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
>
> Being the gentlemen that I am and feeling that you are trying to make me feel bad, I think I should........... Nuts I forgot what I was going to say.
>
> You have a nice too.
> Turtle.
>
>
> > On Tue, 01 June 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote:
> >
> > Turtle,
> > Your getting old, you where not within a foot of that apple, damn the older you get the closer you think you where. If we're around 20 years from now, you'll be claiming to have skinned and diced that apple. I bet Kit wondered who in the hell let this fool shoot my double. On second thought, maybe that's how some of these stories got started, old age !!!!
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> > Later
> > Buck
> > ____________________
> >
> > > On Tue, 01 June 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey guys,
> > > I was with Buck, and several others from that club, and I got to shoot Kit's double and hit, well almost, darn close and that's neat.
> > > Turtle.
> > > PA Colonies
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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:37:58 EDT
From: RR1LA@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: E-mail Hoax?
and some of you guys had me thinking i was nuts. well i am a little, but not
about the gov't trying to horn in on the internet action.... Barn.
In a message dated 6/1/99 4:09:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
pdkeas@market1.com writes:
<< If you are thinking that our wonderful government would ever stoop so low
as to charge on e-mail you are right.
We have a line just for the computor. When we got the bill, my wife
found a new charge: $6.07 for Federal Access Charge. When I called US West
to ask about it, I was told it was because internet users tied up the lines
for so long that our government was charging for doing so.
Apparently not to be outdone, US West was also charging us for not having
long distance. When I asked about that, here was the answer: Long
distance companys pay US West for long distance lines. When you don't have
long distance service, they charge you for loss of revenue that they would
have received if you had long distance.
Ain't government and big business grand?
DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:33:08 EDT
From: RR1LA@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Ray Glazner
Rock, Ray is in Wausau. E-mail is Glazner2@aol.com. Barn
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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:36:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: ikon@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: turtle shells
Adam,
Did you get your turtle shell? If not let me know I will be getting a few
in by the end of the week.
Frank
At 09:40 PM 5/31/99 -0700, you wrote:
>the turtle shells are for a friend doing 16th century period,as I said in my
>first query. thanks to everyone who has helped with this. Adam
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:59:35 EDT
From: KC764@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
Right. I've been to the museum and to the meadow where the battle supposedly
took place. I was deer hunting with some friends, who live in Baggs, WY and
they knew the people who own the property on Battle Creek, formerly St.
Vrains Fork. As the sign on the hiway, overlooking Battle mountain, says,
the indians, because they could not win the battle, burned the area in
retreat, a scorched earth policy. Also, this is the battle, in which, Henry
Fraeb was killed. Another trapper was also kille, but I can't remember who
it was right now.
The museum is very interesting. Jim Baker's cabin, from his later years, and
one of his dugout canoes is there. There is a little old lady who is the
caretaker, if she is still alive. I believe her name is Virginia. I was
there in 1984, so she may no longer be with us. At that time, you needed an
appointment to see the musuem. They didn't have any regular hours. We also
watched the Boy Scouts perform a flag ceremony at the museum. It was neat to
see children that actually still do those sort of things
I would like to hear more about John Johnstons cabin and it's location. Does
anyone know the exact location? This is one thing I was searching for when
last I was in the Little Snake River country. This was last year, after the
Ham's Fork RDV. No one in the area, that I found, knew this info.
Carp
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:11:47 -0700
From: Bret Skelton <bretskelton@home.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
hello, how do I get in touch with someone who knows traps of that period
? i.e. snares ect... Also clothing or back pack patterns, capote's.Thank
you
KC764@aol.com wrote:
>
> Right. I've been to the museum and to the meadow where the battle supposedly
> took place. I was deer hunting with some friends, who live in Baggs, WY and
> they knew the people who own the property on Battle Creek, formerly St.
> Vrains Fork. As the sign on the hiway, overlooking Battle mountain, says,
> the indians, because they could not win the battle, burned the area in
> retreat, a scorched earth policy. Also, this is the battle, in which, Henry
> Fraeb was killed. Another trapper was also kille, but I can't remember who
> it was right now.
>
> The museum is very interesting. Jim Baker's cabin, from his later years, and
> one of his dugout canoes is there. There is a little old lady who is the
> caretaker, if she is still alive. I believe her name is Virginia. I was
> there in 1984, so she may no longer be with us. At that time, you needed an
> appointment to see the musuem. They didn't have any regular hours. We also
> watched the Boy Scouts perform a flag ceremony at the museum. It was neat to
> see children that actually still do those sort of things
>
> I would like to hear more about John Johnstons cabin and it's location. Does
> anyone know the exact location? This is one thing I was searching for when
> last I was in the Little Snake River country. This was last year, after the
> Ham's Fork RDV. No one in the area, that I found, knew this info.
>
> Carp
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:25:04 EDT
From: KC764@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
Read "Firearms, Traps and Tools of the Mountain Men"
Carp
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:39:48 -0600
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <louis.l.sickler@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
Ken,
I, too, don't recall her name, it's in my notes at home, but the
curator told us that some archaeologists were going to start a survey this
year on the north slopes of Battle Mtn in hopes of finding the exact
location. I'm pretty sure it's on private property or else I would have done
some poking around myself.
If Lee decides to go that way, maybe he can find more info for us. I
would like to go back there again this summer, learn a little more and camp
out. Like I said, it's beautiful country - but where is it NOT in these
Shining Mtns ???
RC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KC764@aol.com [SMTP:KC764@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 10:00 AM
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
>
> There is a little old lady who is the
> caretaker, if she is still alive. I believe her name is Virginia. I was
> there in 1984, so she may no longer be with us.
>
> I would like to hear more about John Johnstons cabin and it's location.
> Does
> anyone know the exact location? This is one thing I was searching for
> when
> last I was in the Little Snake River country. This was last year, after
> the
> Ham's Fork RDV. No one in the area, that I found, knew this info.
>
> Carp
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:12:55 EDT
From: KC764@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
I will try to get my friend, Bob Halsell, Baggs, WY to dig into this. He is
really into the history of the area and I think he would enjoy this. His
late wife is the one who took me to the battle site.
Carp
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Date: 2 Jun 1999 12:47:05 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
I read that the property owners (where the cabin was) have donated it to Old Town in Cody, WY. This was a couple years ago as I recall. It was planned to be moved to that location for all to enjoy.
Buck
_____________________________________
On Wed, 02 June 1999, "Sickler, Louis L" wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> I, too, don't recall her name, it's in my notes at home, but the
> curator told us that some archaeologists were going to start a survey this
> year on the north slopes of Battle Mtn in hopes of finding the exact
> location. I'm pretty sure it's on private property or else I would have done
> some poking around myself.
>
> If Lee decides to go that way, maybe he can find more info for us. I
> would like to go back there again this summer, learn a little more and camp
> out. Like I said, it's beautiful country - but where is it NOT in these
> Shining Mtns ???
>
> RC
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: KC764@aol.com [SMTP:KC764@aol.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 10:00 AM
> > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
> >
> > There is a little old lady who is the
> > caretaker, if she is still alive. I believe her name is Virginia. I was
> > there in 1984, so she may no longer be with us.
> >
> > I would like to hear more about John Johnstons cabin and it's location.
> > Does
> > anyone know the exact location? This is one thing I was searching for
> > when
> > last I was in the Little Snake River country. This was last year, after
> > the
> > Ham's Fork RDV. No one in the area, that I found, knew this info.
> >
> > Carp
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:55:03 -0600
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <louis.l.sickler@lmco.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
Buck,
What were they going to move? I thought that the reason archaeologists were
getting involved was that there was nothing to see above ground, much less
> Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
>
> I read that the property owners (where the cabin was) have donated it to
> Old Town in Cody, WY. This was a couple years ago as I recall. It was
> planned to be moved to that location for all to enjoy.
>
> Buck
> _____________________________________
>
>
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Date: 2 Jun 1999 13:48:51 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Need Info on Museums in WY, MT, CO
As I recall, they had base logs, foundation stones and the doorway stone, maybe some fireplace stones, think that was all, according to the article; may have been in one of the United Airlines magazines or one of those Travel magazines for Wyoming vistors.
Buck Conner
AMM Baker Party/Colorado
_____________________________
> On Wed, 02 June 1999, "Sickler, Louis L" wrote:
>
> Buck,
>
> What were they going to move? I thought that the reason archaeologists were
> getting involved was that there was nothing to see above ground, much less
