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hist_text-digest        Thursday, May 20 1999        Volume 01 : Number 301




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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:14:18 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Angela Gottfred)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Blanket shirts

[e-mail] wrote:
> Maybe this has been asked before, but I missed it.  Can anyone document
> "blanket shirts"??
For the Canadian fur trade, 1774-1821, I can document about a dozen
different kinds of shirts, but I have seen neither blanket shirts nor shirts
made from 'molton', which is a heavy fabric capots were often made from.

Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:44:14 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Jockey caps & Rogers Rangers

In a message dated 5/13/99 6:55:23 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< On the web, I've found statements that Rogers Rangers wore jockey caps,
but
 no descriptions of them. One web site noted that they were originally cut
 down from tricorns.

 Can anyone help me with a reliable description of the jockey caps worn by
 Rogers Rangers?

 Your humble & obedient servant,
 Angela Gottfred
 [e-mail]  >>

Sorry it took so long for a reply but lifes demands leave little time.  In
the Collector's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution, George
C. Neumann and Frank J. Kravic, page 143 there is a photo of an original
"Jockey Cap" circa 1780-1800.  On pages 141 & 142 are several other examples
of the same type of Cap.  Some are leather and some are felt/wool tar or
laqured.  All are are rounded top with a 'bill' that looks somewhat like a
bill on a modern cap.  In one case the bill is tipped up against the doomed
crown.  Another referance is to the 'American Dragoon Jockey Cap'.  The same
style of cap can be seen in "Sporting Art England 1700-1900", Stella A.
Walker, 1972.  On page 26 is the James Seymoour painting The Duke of
Devonshire's Flying Childers with a Jockey Up dated 1740 which clearly shows
the same kind of "Jockey Cap.  The same cap appears again on the next page in
the 1759 painting by George Stubbs entitled The Duke of Ricmond, His Brother
Loard George Lennox and General Jones Out Hunting (read that Fox Hunting).
Many other paintings of that and earlier periods show the same style cap.
All were a doomed skull cap hardened to protect the head from blows from tree
limbs or swords or falls.  All have a bill that protrudes forward to shade
the eyes well riding.

I do not have any specifics about the caps used by Rogers Rangers but this
may help you start you research.

Your Humble Servant

C.T. Oakes

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:22:29 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: INDIAN SIGN LANGUAGE

From: larry pendleton <[e-mail]>
Subject: AMM-List: INDIAN SIGN LANGUAGE=20


> Folks there is a new Indian Sign Language Video Tape on the market.  =
It is "
> Indian Sign Language with Larry Pendleton ".  It gives a brief history =
of
> Sign Language, covers approximately 100 signs giving their meanings =
and
> uses.  It also illustrates the differences in how the signs are given
> according to the different reference sources.  The cost of the tape is
> $20.00 plus $3.25 for postage.  If you are interested contact me off =
line,
> or by snail mail.  My address is :
> LARRY PENDLETON
> RT. 1 BOX 87
> EDGEWOOD, TX. 75117
>=20
>=20
> --------------------
> Aux Ailments de Pays!

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:08:42 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: INDIAN SIGN LANGUAGE

- -----Original Message-----
From: larry pendleton <[e-mail]>
To: mountain lists <[e-mail]>; amm lists
<[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 5:56 PM
Subject: AMM-List: INDIAN SIGN LANGUAGE


>Folks there is a new Indian Sign Language Video Tape on the market.  It is
"
>Indian Sign Language with Larry Pendleton ".  It gives a brief history of
>Sign Language, covers approximately 100 signs giving their meanings and
>uses.  It also illustrates the differences in how the signs are given
>according to the different reference sources.  The cost of the tape is
>$20.00 plus $3.25 for postage.  If you are interested contact me off line,
>or by snail mail.  My address is :
>LARRY PENDLETON
>RT. 1 BOX 87
>EDGEWOOD, TX. 75117
>
>
>--------------------
>Aux Ailments de Pays!
>

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:19:50 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: delete from list

 I am sorry to say that I need to be deleted from the list.  I simply havent
had the time to keep up with all of the postings.   thanks for all of the
advice and for the entertainment.   To HBC in Texas,  I really appreciated
your work on that documentary awhile back.  Keep up the good work.  To the
rest of y'all,  watch yer topknots and keep yer powder dry.

Ymhs,
Wade "Griz" Smith
Meridian, Id.

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:44:59 +0000
From: The Sweeneys <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List:Razors

Hello camp,

     Does anyone know of a trader that sells authentic shaving kits for the
1800-1840 period? I know Dixie sells razors,but they have plastic handles.
Nothing a fresh shave on those long treks to lift yer spirits.....Thanks in
advance for any info.

Mick
Sierra Foothills

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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Noe <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Percussion Rifles "Dates"

   I bet this has been raked over the coals many times.
 But I am new to the list and have not seen it.
   What is the earliest dates to authenicate "Percussion Cap Rifles" in
the mountains?
 I know I read Joe Meeks had one (about 1834) when the she Grizz got
him. He said "the cap didn't go off and befor he could replace it she
slapped it out of his hands." (And a little finger)
  I remember reading of earlier accounts of caps being made in Germany
or Switzerland but don't know when they hit the mountains.
 Thanks:
 George

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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:08:16 -0400
From: Tom Roberts <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Razors

The Sweeneys wrote:

> Hello camp,
>
>      Does anyone know of a trader that sells authentic shaving kits for the
> 1800-1840 period? I know Dixie sells razors,but they have plastic handles.
> Nothing a fresh shave on those long treks to lift yer spirits.....Thanks in
> advance for any info.
>
> Mick
> Sierra Foothills

Was wondering if the plastic handles are riveted on similiar to a knife, and if
they are, could they be replaced with something a bit more appropriate.

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