Many of us from Colorado would make yearly trips to the Museum Of the Fur Trade to talk to Mr. Hanson (I made a dozen trips while living in Colorado and half of them with Mr. Conner and crew),
Buck would call Charley and he would get rooms at the Best Western for the whole group. Mr. & Mrs. Hanson would go to dinner on us, what nice people.
Like Buck and Mr. Webb have stated, I have heard Mr. Hanson refer to the rear sight question as after market additions. Buck bought 2 barrels from junk tradeguns that could not be repaired, one with the blacksmith work and the other a smooth standard un-sighted barrel. I ask what he planned to do with them as they were not cheap. He wanted them for talks on tradeguns to different groups, at the time he would do men's clubs, historical society meetings, etc. Buck if you read this do you still have the barrels, if so put them on this hist_list. Would be a good example of what we are talking about.
Turtle
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:02:12 -0600
From: "Charlie P. Webb" <cwebbbpdr@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:Don "Pappy" Horne
Hey Hawk,
I also have some fine memories of Pappy Horne, I might even sell
the farm just to hold one of his 1803 Harpers Ferry's or smoothe bore
shooters again. Ole Pappy most likey forgot more about Lewis and
Clark and the Corps Of Discovery than most of us will ever know!! Folks
we don't realize what treasures some of these old guys are until they
have done gone under, what a wealth of knowledge we let slip through our
fingers when these folks ford their last stream. What a shame!!
I traded the barrels to Charley Hanson about two years before he died for some other fur trade items that he had extra on, at the museum. Sorry, but if you look in some of the Quarterlies there are pictures of "after market rear sights" and standard smooth flats at the breech (no sights). Good project for one of you to look up and put on the net.
I've been so busy with filling orders for heirloom seeds this late in the year, myself and the suppliers have never seen such a year for the old seeds. Maybe they're loaden them in them smoothbores and plantin' munches of em at one time !
Buck Conner
dba/Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.
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bought 2 barrels from junk tradeguns that could not be repaired, one with the blacksmith work and the other a smooth standard un-sighted barrel.
do you still have the barrels, if so put them on this hist_list. Would be a good example of what we are talking about.
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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 00:25:14 EDT
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Don "Pappy" Horne
if you get my way let me know and i will let you fondel my 28 gage chiefs
rifle----
I argued with pappy for 2 years about what i wanted in a trade gun and to
no avail---finally we agreed on a 28 gage that was all we agreed on---I
had old man boskain kallispil MT. build me a barrel and darn it took
some talking for him to make me a 28 gage that would shoot .535 round
ball with a .015 pillow ticking---and 44 " long no less---got the barrel
took it to pappy at Oka valley and he said would put it together when he
had time and for me to look him up at friendship in the spring---he might
have it finished by then---cought pappy at friendship and he told me the
gun was done and he had it with him but he wanted to test it in the trade
gun matches---he won the matches and I shot the same gun and took second
pappy had a faster flint and steel so he won by default---damnest trade
gun i ever saw----shoots round ball like a rifle and shot pattern is
outstanding---got to be fast on the birds---must have killed 25 turkeys
to date and dont know how many doves and other flying critters have
sucomed to its beller and smoke---still use the darn thing for
turkey---and have killed a many a limit of doves in MO. and
Kansas---killed a bunch of phesent in kansas and up around decatur
Ill---pappy has given up building and bruce has come to the conclusion
that scratching on ivery or horn is more profitable than making guns---a
loss of another craftsman---pappy horn and dan anderson and a few others
did 45 days of the lewis and clark treck---what a story---almost as good
as coming down the misouria to the festival of the little hills---lest we
forget the shining times---wish i had had a recorder and recorded all the
stories from pappy, dan anderson and dale black---at least the foxfire
people got a good base line on a couple of them---still remember the
mountain man matches at oka valley---be ready for anything and carry what
you need with you---was at dale black's first annual pig and goat shoot
even shot the goat dale dressed it and we put it on the iron rod for
cooking---remember the candel shoots that for a prize a pocket knife
changed hands at least 20 times before it came to a true owner---we burn
some powder and had shining memories of the good times---wish someone
would do a article on pappy, bruce and don horn----saw pappy druel over
vernon smith's 1803 and his scottish pistol---vern never did tell him
all of his secrets---the 1803 is in texas being shot by vernon's boy now
- ----saw a bunch of folks swear it was original---"only the maker knows",
this is craftsmanship---lots of research and doing it right.
quality takes time and a compitent craftsman---BTW what is cc company---
they is close to me because pappy , dale black, dan anderson and hawk
boureton are the ones who signed my ticket to join the AMM---and
sponsered me.
"HAWK"
Michael pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor Florida 34684
E-mail: Hawknest4@Juno.com Phone: 1-727-771-1815
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:02:12 -0600 "Charlie P. Webb" <cwebbbpdr@juno.com>
writes:
>Hey Hawk,
>I also have some fine memories of Pappy Horne, I might even sell
>the farm just to hold one of his 1803 Harpers Ferry's or smoothe bore
>shooters again. Ole Pappy most likey forgot more about Lewis and
>Clark and the Corps Of Discovery than most of us will ever know!!
>Folks we don't realize what treasures some of these old guys are until
>they have done gone under, what a wealth of knowledge we let slip
>through our fingers when these folks ford their last stream. What a
